Under No Circumstances Did Joe Biden Save Social Security

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Under No Circumstances Did Joe Biden Save Social Security

In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman delve into Congress' perpetual lack of interest in meaningful reforms to entitlements and discuss new data on the student exodus from public schools.

0:26: Joe Biden and entitlement spending

32:08: Weekly Listener Question

38:16: New data on school kids exiting public schools

47:54: Super Bowl lightning round

55:03: This week's cultural recommendations

Mentioned in this podcast:

"The State of Our Union Sucks," by Matt Welch

"Biden Promises To Let Social Security's Ship Keep Sinking," by Eric Boehm

"Joe Biden, Travel Agent in Chief," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown

"Biden and Journalists Agree: Republicans Would Deliberately 'Crash' the Economy," by Matt Welch

"The 19 Percent Solution," by Nick Gillespie and Veronique de Rugy

"Robert Pondiscio: Why Our Kids Can't Read," by Nick Gillespie

"Winsome Earle-Sears: School Choice 'Is New Brown v. Board' Fight," by Nick Gillespie

"How Do Democrats Want To Pay for Free College, Paid Leave, Expanding Social Security?" by Zach Weissmueller and Alexis Garcia

"Social Security, Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dogg, & Alan Simpson: Ultimate Remix," by Austin Bragg and Nick Gillespie

"Actually, Magic Mike's Last Dance Is About the Awfulness of Urban Zoning Regulations," by Peter Suderman

"Ben Affleck for a Day," by Matt Welch

Send your questions to [e-mail]. Be sure to include your social media handle and the correct pronunciation of your name.

Audio production by Ian Keyser

Assistant production by Hunt Beaty

Music: "Angeline," by The Brothers Steve

What are we consuming this week?

Nick Gillespie

• The Myth of Left and Right: How the Political Spectrum Misleads and Harms America

Katherine Mangu-Ward

• Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s Substack

Peter Suderman

• Magic Mike's Last Dance

Matt Welch

• Pinball: The Man Who Saved the Game

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[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Under No Circumstances Did Joe Biden Save Social Security

Blame must be assigned now.

[Chumby]

Biden had been a senator since 1973, then VP and now potus with just a four year hiatus in there. Forty-six years as #1, #2 or in the top legislature branch. He has earned a healthy serving of any criticism.

[SQRLSY One]

Hey all of ye Reasonoid readers! Do NOT bother to read this article about Joe Biden (or his policies)! Do NOT bother to read (or read about) ANY links, facts, or logic contained in this article and-or video! Do NOT bother to trouble your pretty little heads about silly factual details gathered by useless Reason-writer eggheads!

Because I, the SMARTEST ONE of all, can “summarize” it ALL for you! Here it is, above article summarized: “Senile Mackerel Snapper Bad”!

(/Sarc, revenge for moronic “summaries” about “Orange Man Bad”)

[Mother's Lament]

Fuck off, Shillsy.
Go simp for Biden somewhere else.

[SQRLSY One]

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[Mother's Lament]

Democratic Party shill.

[Chumby]

He loves their conventions. He’s able to gather a lot of nuts there and ends up with plenty of squirrel necklaces.

[JeremyR]

Is there some other Reason? Reason is pretty good at regurgitating the latest Democrat talking points from whatever the Journolist is now

[Liberty Lover]

It is easy to assign blame, it is Biden's fault, he is a liar.

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[JesseAz]

Why won't they post Mikes retarded weekly listener question? I'm not going to listen to the podcast just to laugh at it.

Also this amuses me.

GDI claims that the 10 “riskiest” news outlets for disinformation are the New York Post, Reason, the American Spectator, Newsmax, the Federalist, the American Conservative, One America News, the Blaze, the Daily Wire, and RealClearPolitics.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2023/02/11/taxpayer-funded-group-blacklists-conservative-media-cutting-off-their-ad-revenue/

GDI is a British group that is used by a lot of ad companies to list ad rates. But they are a private business. So no big deal. Reason shouldn't complain about being harmed by liberal bias in companies.

Oddly enough major hoax reporting sites are not on the misinformation list, like Rolling Stone.

By contrast, progressive news outlets that have committed libel do not appear on its disinformation list, such as Rolling Stone, which peddled a gang rape hoax and had to pay $1.65 million to settle a defamation lawsuit against it.

[JesseAz]

And since shrike decided to join the thread. Soros is one of the major funders of GDI.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/free-speech/catherine-salgado/2023/02/10/surprise-surprise-soros-tied-disinfo-group

Good thing OSA is so free speech and pro liberty huh shrike?

[Chumby]

Pluggo is here for supply.

[raspberrydinners]

Oh man, the old Soros bogeyman. Never fails.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Bogeyman? Follow the funding, dipshit.

[Mother's Lament]

"Why won’t they post Mikes retarded weekly listener question?"

This week White Mike basically asks "Isn't some prohibition okay, like for murder?".
This affords the Reasonistas license to pontificate on their favorite issues. KMW of course starts with abortion.

[Moonrocks]

I'm honestly shocked that Reason made that list. The Editors hew close to the party line, only straying once in a blue moon with some mild criticism of the regime blended with several healthy doses of both sides. Just how obsequious does a "news outlet" need to be to not be Dangerous and Harmful Disinformation?

[JesseAz]

Very. ProPublica and Buzzfeed were listed as not spreading misinformation. Was an amazing list.

[raspberrydinners]

Maybe because Propublica does good journalism.

Sorry the facts don't fit your narrative there snowflake.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

ProPublica is a joke on the level of the DailyKos.

[MistahWhiskas]

So you hang out at a site you think it terrible?

[Chumby]

The articles are often progressive-libertine light. The commentariat is libertarian notwithstanding the drunk, the schizophrenic, the cawmpulsive liar, the pedophile and the idiot groomer.

[Mother's Lament]

Is the schizophrenic Sqrlsy? Because he's been pushing the same grooming nonsense as Jeff too.

[Chumby]

Yes. I think in his case it is more just a binary type of contrarian position. The libertarians are against adults molesting kids and the libertarians are also against Biden so he picks the other team. A few years ago he defended Pluggo but I don’t believe that is his core. Unless he is a Pluggo sock.

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Squirrelly uses too many words and such erratic formatting and capitalizing that they are easy to skip as they scroll up the screen. I doubt I even see even a tenth of them, let alone actually read them, unless some reply is funny and I check to see what it spewed.

[JesseAz]

The writers are often terrible. But you can learn much in the comments. This magazine used to be much different and take actual firm libertarian stances. The last 10 years or so they have gone to tepid and light stances of liberty, and often demurred to the narratives of the major Twitter or democrat newspapers. See ENBs links being mostly Twitter, NYT, The Atlantic, etc.

They don't even hide where their source material is from.

Not all of us blindly accept good faith from everyone calling themselves libertarian.

[MistahWhiskas]

So you guys are basically "squatting" at the comments section of a site you hate?

[JesseAz]

No. I wrote very clearly. Mouth the words if you have to.

[Mother's Lament]

Quit fucking sockpuppeting, Mike.

You know perfectly well most of us here have financially supported Reason for decades and are simply angry that the magazine has been hijacked by establishment progressives who see libertarianism as a contrarian but inoffensive pose to assume at gentry cocktail parties rather than a philosophy.

That's why we get loads of stuff about food trucks, prostitution, abortion and mean old school libraries "banning" porn, and nothing serious on the unprecedented attack on free speech currently occurring.

[JesseAz]

He is mad I called his listener question retarded.

[Chumby]

You called his retarded listener question retarded?

[JesseAz]

Yes. His retarded listener question told by a retard was retarded.

[Mother's Lament]

Retards mad he called his retarded listener question retarded.

[Don't look at me!]

Who advanced this retarded retardation?

[Diarrheality]

I’m honestly shocked that Reason made that list. = So you hang out at a site you think i[s] terrible?

Get a load of Mr. Disinformation over here.

[Fats of Fury]

Maybe they go straight to the comments too.

[Overt]

I commented on this Saturday night.

https://reason.com/2023/02/10/the-fight-to-criminalize-opioid-prescribing/?comments=true#comment-9922200

It is pretty clear to me that the "disinformation" was the Comments sections, because around the time this lobbying was taking place, Reason made major changes to their website to hide the comments from search engine results. I suspect this was specifically to address demonetization.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

Not one dem leaning news outlet the pushed the Hunter/Russian narrative.

This should put Politico on the list.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/james-clapper-accuses-politico-of-distorting-letter-on-hunter-biden-laptop-being-possible-russian-disinformation/ar-AA17rhSH?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c063ecb00d7c4657bafb0aa6f092f9d4

[JesseAz]

Clapper made something like a dozen appearances on CNN post his letter. Not once did he say the major outlets misinterpreted it.

[Mother's Lament]

Clapper knew he was signing his name to a lie, and did it anyway. I think he's shocked that it wasn't buried by now.

[Bill B.]

The uni-party will never cut Social Security and Medicare. Why would you want to alienate your most reliable block of voters? They will fight harder to save these programs then Biden will to keep sending money and weapons to Ukraine.

[JeremyR]

Republicans talk about it once in a while, then have to hastily backtrack

[raspberrydinners]

Nah, nothing is ever enough for Republicans and their rich friends. They want everyone to have to manage their own retirement funds and pay their rich buddies the privilege of 1+% a year (minimum) to do it.

They won't stop trying. They'll just angle it so under-50s get Social Security cut and not anyone older or already on it. Saves them some votes and, circling back to point one, gets them and their buddies richer than they already are.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Remind me again of which party most billionaires vote for and support? Here's a hint, it starts with the letter "D" and rhymes with "rats".

[Bubba Jones]

Social security will risk cuts just as I retire.

They’ll Jack up taxes to save it. Which will be fine with me since I will be retired.

Win win.

[creech]

apres moi, le deluge

[Liberty Lover]

Biden is a compulsive liar. Nothing new here. NewsMax showed numerous clips of Biden saying he would End Social Security as a Senator, now he is the ‘Great Savior” of social Security! LOL

[raspberrydinners]

The fact that you think Newsmax is anything other than a propaganda network says all we need to know about you and why your mindset is so full of bullshit.

[raspberrydinners]

Oh man, some snowflake is super salty that the "senile" old man hit Republicans with a nice 1-2 combo and rightfully called out their shameful attempt to take American taxpayer money they rightfully paid into away from them.

[TJJ2000]

Well you can't blame any Democrat for not compulsively trying their Socialism Security scheme no matter how much it fails over and over and over again.

[Arthur Knaus]

hm, it's so... shameful

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