Are We Really Doing the Impeachment Thing Again?
The wish-fulfillment machine kicks into high gear on both sides of the aisle.
Forget mere impeachment, let's talk treason! Punishable by execution!
That's where longshot GOP presidential challenger Bill Weld found himself on Morning Joe this morning, and it's more or less where we start this week's Editors Roundtable edition of the Reason Podcast, which features Nick Gillespie, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Peter Suderman, and Matt Welch. Have we learned nothing from the past two-plus years? Is the tension between legislative-branch duty and political needs resolvable? Are either President Donald Trump or Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden even capable of not acting like jackasses, and is asking the question that way part of the problem? These are among the questions.
Also discussed: The super-terrible national rent control proposal from Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.), the lengths Mitt Romney went to as presidential candidate to never propose cutting any piece of government, and what reading 1990s issues of Seventeen can tell you about "sluts." Don't say you haven't been warned.
Audio production by Ian Keyser.
Music credit: 'TipToes' by Myuu
Relevant links from the show:
"Trump's Bizarre Meeting With Corey Lewandowski Suggests a Consciousness of Guilt," by Jacob Sullum
"Corey Lewandowski, House Democrats Clash During Wild Trump Impeachment Prelude Hearing," by Robby Soave
"Creeping a Little Faster Toward Impeachment," by Keith Whittington
"Trump Thinks His Critics Are Traitors, and They Sling the Charge Back at Him," by Jacob Sullum
"Vice President's Son Joins Board of Directors of Ukrainian Gas Company," by Ed Krayewski
"Partisan Hackery, Supreme Court Confirmations, and the Decline of Public Trust," by Nick Gillespie
"The Idiocracy Candidate," by Matt Welch
"Consultant in Chief," by Peter Suderman
"Bernie Sanders' Housing Plan Calls for $2.5 Trillion in New Spending and Nationwide Rent Control," by Christian Britschgi
"California Passes Statewide Rent Control Despite a Massive Housing Shortage," by Christian Britschgi
"Minneapolis Doesn't Want Landlords to Check Tenants' Criminal History, Credit Score, Past Evictions," by Christian Britschgi
"New York Passed Sweeping, Progressive Rental Regulations. Now It's Getting Sued," by Christian Britschgi
"Elizabeth Warren Wants to Make Your Life More Annoying and More Expensive," by Peter Suderman
"Reviews: Ad Astra and One Cut of the Dead," by Kurt Loder
What are we consuming this week?
Katherine Mangu-Ward
- Mid-90s Seventeen magazines
Nick Gillespie
Peter Suderman
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“Are We Really Doing the Impeachment Thing Again?”
Sure . Why not ?
Reason is still doing the obstruction of justice thing – even though that is a crime and requires a criminal action that Reason has NEVER NEVER given.
Of course maybe Reason believes in crimes of belief, thought, or thinking.
When did the impeachment thing even stop?
If I were the Democrats, I’d want to keep the general public as distracted from their issues for as long as possible, too. If the Democrats have any chance of taking the White House, it sure as hell won’t be because Americans want the Green New Deal or Medicare for All. It’ll be because they were completely distracted by shit like a Trump impeachment.
Actually if you paid attention to Nick Gillespie, you’d know more Americans than ever agree with the statement “Immigration is a good thing.” And if you paid attention to Boehm, you’d know Drumpf’s tariffs have destroyed the economy. Democrats should therefore run on immigration and economic issues.
Wait, when we’re we NOT doing the impeachment thing?
Until 10pm election night.
of 2024
We’re doing it and not doing it at the same time.
It does get confusing.
>>>We’re doing it and not doing it at the same time.
9th grade?
Also called “Levi lovin'” in Utah.
lol first time i’ve heard that.
Impeach Schrodinger!
Impeach Schrodinger’s cat!
Elect Chairman Meow to office!
Somebody should seriously tell the Democrats the story of “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”.
I don’t think any of them would get the point; you’d get a blank stare. And then, you’d have to explain it.
Not.
Worth.
The.
Effort.
I prefer the story of the boy who cried Wolfowitz.
Came here to say exactly that, Diane.
What do you mean, “again”, Welch?
“1990s issues of Seventeen can tell you about ‘sluts.’ Don’t say you haven’t been warned.”
So those sluts are all at least 37 by now?
+1, even if not an intentional ‘Clerks’ reference.
lol “what is that anyway ‘something like 36’?”
What a coincidence, I didn’t remember that from Clerks, but I remember the part where a lady had sex with a dead guy.
Wait, the people in the protest still believe in the Russia Fever Dream Conspiracy? Holy fuck.
The WaPo still believes in it, FFS:
As detailed in the Mueller report, [Trump] received help from a foreign adversary in 2016 without legal consequence.
Trump may as well go ahead and shoot people in Times Square, because it wouldn’t make the Democrats/media any madder at him than they already are, and the people who distrust the media will just assume the incident was exaggerated.
If you missed the reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTACH1eVIaA
Knowing our luck Trump would do that and inadvertently put a hole in the head of the most wanted and dangerous man in the US as he was about to commit an attack. After 24 hours and the news cycle ends we pretend this never happened.
Haha, I can totally see that happening. Thanks for the laugh.
So, anyway, what’s all this about Biden’s son and Ukraine?
50k a month job in a ukranian energy company founded by an oligarch thought to be very corrupt. Hunter has no experience in energy, Ukraine, or anything that doesnt involve cocaine. Nothing to see here.
I would venture a guess that until and unless Biden is decisively defeated, the Ukrainians will go easy on Junior.
Gee golly mister, what is all this Biden Ukraine talk? God damn you are so transparent you pos.
You, OTOH, are both transparent and abysmally stupid.
Maybe he was hired as special correspondent. I believe $50k a month was the going rate a few years ago.
YOU SHUT UP! ORANGE MAN BAD!
FAKE SCANDAL
#LibertariansForBiden
Quick! While everyone’s distracted, let’s get libertarians elected!
This is our chance to finally get a libertarian dog catcher!
pretty fucking obvious w/all the “Russian Collusion!!!” cries there was gonna be literal Russian Collusion by Team D
I encourage everyone to sign the MoveOn impeachment petition. Now that Mueller has definitively proved Drumpf is Putin’s Puppet, it’s your patriotic duty.
And even if Mueller hadn’t delivered, impeachment would still be necessary. Because of the concentration camps.
#Impeach
#Resist
#TrumpRussia
#AbolishConcentrationCamps
“Are We Really Doing the Impeachment Thing Again?”
Of course, we’re going to do the impeachment thing again.
Otherwise a lot of liberal nut cases might have to get a real job and be productive in American society.
^THERE IT IS! +1000
Troll of the fucking year.
Seriously, watch the link above. People literally don’t know who to be mad at, but they know one thing for certain: they’re mad.
LOL – The woman with the hijab is the only one who stands up for freedom of speach!
Yes, the upper- middle class white woman ran to the police because of a sign, duct-taped to a pole which read “Islam is RIGHT about women.” To… the… police.
Beautiful. “Islam is Right about women” might have been better – then they can be both confused and outraged about whether this is a slander against Muslims or an attack on women or a claim that Muslims are right-wing. But I did enjoy the lady trying to claim that there are “misconceptions” about the way women are treated in Muslim countries.
Is a misconception the same as abortion?
To be fair, I can see how not letting women drive, vote, go outside without a male relative, and have a clitoris could cause people to have misconceptions about how Islam treats women.
Fun fact: I grew up in the next town over. Those ladies are ENTIRELY representative of the population of Winchester. (Except the Muslim lady. She probably lives in my town and was driving through.) Their kids all buy their oxy from my town.
So, one has to wonder … what should the signs have said?
I like that among my recommended videos based on this video is an explanation of the Banach-Tarski paradox.
Where was that picture taken? Retirement Village of the Damned?
You kidding?
The election circus just started. This is minimul. They are convinced they not only have to double down on ridiculous nonsense, they are going to have to make us HATE America to still lose because they are going too far and people aren’t dumb.
There are a certain group of people whom the media have convinced that DJT stole the election, either through collusion, or the Electoral College, or suppressing minority votes. You will never be able to convince otherwise. And, there is a certain party whose candidates need the votes of these deluded fools to win. So, no, until a Democrat wins the presidency, it will all be illegitimate. Shit, they still bitch about Bush of the Hanging Chads being installes by the Supreme Court.
I have to admit that if you told me in, say, 2012 that Donald Trump would be president, I would have thought it only possible through some kind of gross manipulation of the election. People in both parties could not be THAT dumb.
You forgot the ace in the hole. Hillary.
I love that her political legacy will not have anything to do with being first lady or a Senator. It will be that she was such a terrible Presidential candidate she lost to a reality TV buffoon.
Crazy old man yells at cloud. Bill Weld the non libertarian wants the death penalty for treason. Who the fuck thought that guy should have been on the LP ticket. Now he’s giving out blowjobs to republicans to try and get one percent of the primary vote.
Must be easy to be a writer at reason- just complain about EVERYTHING and excuse it all.
Yes- impeach his sorry ass. I’m sad to see so many “libertarians” here protect their dear leader at all costs as his sorry ass consistently chooses anyone BUT Americans to value. He rubs your face in shit and you ask for more, you morons.
“his sorry ass consistently chooses anyone BUT Americans to value”
Precisely.
And you know why he does that, right? Because he’s been a Russian intelligence asset since 1987. I appreciate Reason for its relentless advocacy of Charles Koch’s immigration agenda, but I feel like they should emphasize #TrumpRussia more.
So-called libertarians defending the most powerful political figure in the world is indeed hilarious.
He pisses off Democrats to no end by doing the same move over and over and over again, so that’s good enough for me. At least he’s good for the laughs.
The enemy of my enemies….
Yet you sit and defend the expanding use of IC to go after political opponents and the not even quiet merger of tech companies with a political party to produce a government propaganda machine.
You’re a joke. Trump is so powerful that he is literally under 24/7 investigation and stymied by the courts… but you happily cheer on the anonymous IC and government bureaucrats attacking him.
When the most corrupt partisans within the FBI go after you and you come out on top I tend to root for you in the future.
So-called libertarians defending the most powerful political figure in the world is indeed hilarious
No….
Libertarians defending the man hated by the statists and collectivists so much that they’ve had a perpetual tantrum since he got elected is what any libertarian would expect
There.
If Trump wins 2020, you should seriously consider imitating a Chinese factory worker and jump off a building.
What?
No one has realized that “We don’t like him” is a valid for impeachment?
It must be in the Constitution, somewhere.
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Come on Ginsberg, get on with it already. We’ve all suffered enough just waiting around here.
I’ll never wish harm on another person, so I hope she decides to retire soon so she can spend more time with her family. It would very entertaining to watch Democrats futilely argue for waiting until after the next election to appoint a replacement.
“both sides of the aisle”
LMAO.
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Elizabeth Warren is the flat chested Donald Trump of the left.
You people are getting even more deranged with the “Reason believes X” strawmen.
The Donald has a little Cherokee in him?
When did that happen?
Some want to suck on the tits of flat-chested Elizabeth Warren…
Some want to suck on the tits of Orange-Haired Donald…
I would like to NOT have to be forced to suck on the tits of EITHER party, OR of their sluts! Or Putin either, or Google, or Facebook…
I’m going to be stuck voting Libertarian like usual. NO “free milk” for me!
I wish she were 1/1024th as entertaining. Every time she talks she sounds like shes about to start crying.
What do you mean by “you people.”
Yes, we have many sufferers of Reason Derangement Syndrome here. There is no cure. The end is not pretty. 4th stage RDS, also known as tulpitude, requires institutionalization.
“You people” are ALL of those who will NOT fit, unprotestingly, into whatever straw-man straight-jacket that ideologues (typically conservatives) want to force libertarians into!
ALL of those who sincerely believe in the minimal size of the State, and the maximal size of individual freedom, are NARCS and WHORES for the authoritarians! I don’t know how it works, but that’s what it is…
When he got really drunk while passing through Arizona.
Your insane ramblings belie what you claim here.
And he ate a little Cherokee boy?