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Did Everyone Lose?

Plus: Anthropic drama, Biden delusion, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 6.16.2026 9:30 AM

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Docusign diplomacy: A digital preliminary memorandum of understanding between the U.S. and Iran has been signed, leading to an opening of the Strait of Hormuz and a 60-day pause in fighting while final details get hashed out.

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On Friday, a more formal signing will take place, and negotiations will begin on the more challenging details of the agreement.

MOU SIGNED, PER SENIOR U.S. OFFICIAL
OFFICIAL SAYS:
* TRUMP, VANCE SIGNED MOU, SO DID IRANIAN PARLIAMENTARY SPEAKER
* DEAL PROVIDES FOR IMMEDIATE OPENING OF STRAIT OF HORMUZ AND LIFTING OF U.S. BLOCKADE ON IRAN
* DETAILS OF AGREEMENT WILL BE PUT OUT WITHIN NEXT 24-48 HOURS
*…

— Phil Stewart (@phildstewart) June 15, 2026

"We are prepared to release frozen funds and we are prepared to relieve sanctions, and we'll do some small gestures of that in the beginning if they make some small gestures to us that show that they're willing to meet their commitments as well," a U.S. official told Reuters.

"In diplomatic terms, this agreement is an exit ramp from a costly and unpopular war, not a victory parade," writes David Ignatius at The Washington Post. "The deal falls far short of President Donald Trump's early talk of regime change and unconditional surrender." Yes, yes. But it's hard to know, from where we are right now, the degree to which this really will set back Iran and its attainment of a nuclear weapon.

We still don't know what types of restrictions Iran will agree to with regard to its nuclear program, nor do we know what Israel will do with regard to Hezbollah and the fighting in southern Lebanon. We don't know how U.S.-Israeli relations will be impacted in the long run. (Tensions between Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have been rather high during these last few weeks.) We don't know whether Iran will, in fact, keep the Strait of Hormuz open, or whether we'll see it mess around with the strait to gain leverage over the U.S. once again.

"Months of fighting revealed that multiple countries can impose costs," wrote Foreign Policy's Will Todman, "but none can impose order."

"The tactical and operational successes that the U.S. and Israeli militaries achieved masked a deeper strategic defeat, with neither securing the political objectives cited to justify the war in the first place," argued Todman. "The Iranian regime survived and emerged more hard-line, and it discovered a new, powerful negotiating chip in closing the Strait of Hormuz." But even bigger picture: "The war did not produce a clear victor or a more stable regional order. Instead, it accelerated fragmentation, deepened insecurity, and imposed costs on every key regional and global power involved, including Iran, the Arab Gulf states, Russia, and China. The war demonstrated that no state will be able to navigate the new era of global disorder unscathed."


Scenes from New York: Appreciating my compatriots:

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— Liz Wolfe (@LizWolfeReason) June 15, 2026


QUICK HITS

  • "Chipmaking giant Nvidia Corp. sold $25 billion of high-grade bonds, joining a wave of jumbo debt offerings from tech heavyweights as investors clamor to get exposure to the artificial intelligence boom," reports Bloomberg. "The deal, priced on Monday, attracted as much as $85 billion of orders or more than three times the size of the bond, according to a person with knowledge of the matter. Nvidia's first offering since 2021 was boosted from an initial target of about $20 billion, underscoring strong investor demand."
  • "It can often seem like the Bidens are divorced from reality, exemplified by their ability to claim with a straight face that the former president was not a Washington insider," writes Ben Terris in New York magazine. "But they believe they can make a case for his legacy—as long as they can somehow disentangle it from Biden's ruinous decision to run for a second term."
  • "On July 4th, at The Lincoln Memorial and Washington Monument, in beautiful and safe Washington D.C., we are going to host the most spectacular TRUMP RALLY of them all, a 'TRIBUTE TO AMERICA,'" wrote Trump on Truth Social yesterday. "Starting at 7 P.M. EST, this HUGE Celebration will honor our Country's People, Spirit, Strength, Resolve, and Triumphs. With the backdrop of the Lincoln Memorial and surrounding the beautifully new Reflecting Pool, more than 300 Members of our strong and talented Military Bands, Orchestras, and Ceremonial Units, will perform Patriotic Melodies and American Classics, and my Playlist (We will have none of those people that put you to sleep and constantly complain!), as we celebrate our Country, and Rally into the next 250 years." I don't tend to be up in arms about Trump ridiculousness when it's not really hurting anyone, but I do find this to be a little disrespectful to the Founders. I would rather celebrate America than Trump, and I fear this will become more about the self-styled emperor than about 250 years of this great country.
  • A good take on the Anthropic saga:

Because this is happening to Anthropic, the temptation for many will be to say: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. They have relentlessly raised the regulatory temperature in Washington by inviting far-reaching controls of frontier models. They made this bed and now they have… https://t.co/2kcQqdRhRz

— Adam Thierer (@AdamThierer) June 13, 2026

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...leading to an opening of the Strait of Hormuz and a 60-day pause in fighting while final details get hashed out.

    The president is always having to pause things to figure out what to do with the Muslims.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      Well leftists would whine about coming up with any sort of final solution.

    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Islam is truly a curse upon the earth, much like the democrat party and all of it’s communist members.

  2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    So we should have made a regime change? Or actually bombed them back into the Stone Age?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Trump should give them what they want. 72 virgins in the next life.

      1. Liberty_Belle   2 months ago

        They will have to settle for getting 300 Billion in reconstruction and 25 billion in unfrozen assets and cry about it like the losers they are.

        Winning ! Amirite, Trumpers ?

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Lol.

          The shit you guys say and never get embarassed about is stunning.

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Pits becasie they’re too stupid and delusional to ever be embarrassed. Plus their kind have no standards or accountability.

            Why do we allow their continued existence?

    2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      Yes. If the regime is left in place, then the war has been for nothing.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        My bar is if they have any nuclear material it was for nothing. The Iranian people really messed up. The regime was on its back leg, that's when the people should have attacked

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          There's also a bit of "post-singularity" notion that if Iranian fuel prices pushed the invasion of Taiwan outside of Xi's term and China's dominance and pushed Russia to the negotiating table and convinced Europe that they needed to cease their own cultural genocide and defend themselves and got the rest of the ME on Iran's, rather than Israel's, bad side and got less nuclear material out of Iran's hands... it may've been worth it.

          Re: "war" - From a lives perspective, the "war" in Iran is has been on par with the "withdrawal" from Kabul. Also from a lives perspective, Andrew Cuomo made decisions to kill 10-14,000 Americans. He did so by closing private parks, hospitals, churches, and businesses. He mandated vaccines and removed religious exemptions. He had the evidence to know that was the outcome of the decisions he was making. We know he had the evidence and know he was aware of the outcomes because we know he covered up the evidence. He was brought down over somewhat spurious SA allegations. The amnesty begged wasn't "We'll agree to any sanctions to prevent this from happening again." it was "We went a little crazy. We're sorry if you're sorry."

          This was all "peaceful". Something on the order of ~50% more deadly than the "mostly peaceful" "Summer of Love".

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            Ugh.

            Re: "war" - From a lives perspective, the "war" in Iran is has been on par with the "withdrawal" from Kabul. Something on the order of ~50% more deadly than the "mostly peaceful" "Summer of Love".
            ...
            This was all "peaceful". Something on the order of ~50% more deadly than the "mostly peaceful" "Summer of Love".

          2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            And it also caused the breakup of OPEC with UAE announcement which is huge.

            Iran is now also isolated with all its neighbors against it.

            There are many positives that have already occurred the left and reason ignore.

            1. mad.casual   2 months ago

              And, again, the total number of troops in the region is larger, kinda, than previously; but active conflict and death are actually quite low.

              The Carter Doctrine put 1800 boots on the ground and Reagan repeatedly redeployed them during the Iran-Iraq war. Multiple attacks lead to more deaths, directly, than the current war (or *W*ar) by at least an order of magnitude. We had more carriers deployed to the region for Operation Iraqi Freedom.

              I don't disagree it would've been great for the people of Iran to overthrow their own theocratic dictatorship, but if wishes were fishes...

              1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                It may well still happen. Stay tuned.

  3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Apparently the fbi stopped an attack planned at the ufc fight.
    The suspect said they wanted to target captolist elitest billionaires.
    Does that mean Elon would have been safe?

    https://notthebee.com/article/report-fbi-stops-plot-to-kill-capitalist-elites-by-crashing-explosive-drones-into-the-ufc-fight-at-the-white-house--

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Seems more credible than the whitmer kidnapping too. Yet almost no media reports on it.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        The media would have to blame democrats, and that will never happen. Do you think they exist to report news?

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      23 suspects, 5 in custody

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    We are prepared to release frozen funds...

    The Mullahs should have left it all on the pallet instead of putting it in the bank.

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      I think most of those mullahs are now with Allah.

  5. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    Yes, a fireworks display is disrespectful of the founders. (Some who were slave owners, by the way).

    1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

      Do you really think that was Liz's objection?

      It's Trump calling this celebration of America's 250th a "Trump rally." You know damn well if a Dem president were in office now and called it a rally for him, you'd get the objection Liz, and I, have.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Was it a Trump rally?

        The UFC fight sure wasn't. But I guess it is all projection for some of you.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

          ""On July 4th, at The Lincoln Memorial and Washington Monument, in beautiful and safe Washington D.C., we are going to host the most spectacular TRUMP RALLY of them all, a 'TRIBUTE TO AMERICA,'" wrote Trump on Truth Social yesterday."

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            that's just his first shot in the negotiation.

          2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            And when it ends up not being a rally you'll just switch your anger to him lying i bet. Because nothing else mattwrs to some of you.

            Whats funny is i read that as a tribute to america. You read it as its about Trump. Lol.

            1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              That’s because they’re are incapable of patriotism, or even understanding patriotism. They have no souls, like vampires on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. And like vampires, they’re just sociopathic parasites.

          3. damikesc   2 months ago

            Well, Democrats, by their own admission, do not like America. So, it cannot be a bipartisan anything.

        2. Zeb   2 months ago

          It's what he called it, apparently. Trump is a narcissist and likes his cult of personality. I'm not losing any sleep over it, but it's not one of the things I like about him.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            How is the description of the event. Does it sound like a rally. Or just trump being trump.

            Again. We just had an event that many claimed was an emporer overseeing a coliseum. How much of said event was about trump?

            People are getting so outraged over words more than actions. It is annoying at this ppibt. Condemnation before an act happens. I thought we were libertarians here. Sounding much more like the left recently.

        3. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          Even when Trump himself calls it a "Trump rally," you accuse me of "projection." You're not a serious person.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Because you love to assume something has happened in order to fuel your outrage.

            I asked you specifically.

            Was the UFC a trump rally?

            Saying and doing are two things. You should know this. You love Massie saying things but doing nothing, so I get why you project statements over acts to fuel your analysis.

            1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

              Once again with your obsession with Massie. Wtf does Massie have to do with this?

              And what does the UFC match have to do with Trump specifically calling the 250th celebration a "Trump rally"? I don't care about the UFC match unless it used taxpayer funds for it. Did it use taxpayer funds? I don't know. If it did, then I'm not a fan. If it didn't, then great. No problem.

              What is so hard to understand that Trump calling the upcoming celebration of the country a "Trump rally" is Trump making this about him when it's not about him but about 250 years of the country?

              1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

                Meh. The small town I grew up in has a summer street festival that falls during my birthday week every year. I used to joke with the locals that I was flattered by the big party they were throwing for me. Haha.

                Lighten up, Francis.

          2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            You’re a democrat, so you’re not really a person at all.

      2. Marshal   2 months ago

        Dems began their boycott when it was just a celebration of America.

        1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          Because the Democrats suck. In what way did you read into my comment praise for Dems? I (and Liz) objected to Trump calling it a Trump rally, when it's a celebration of America.

          1. Marshal   2 months ago

            In what way did you read into my comment praise for Dems?

            I didn't, you're mixing up comments again.

            But you and Liz are minimizing what Dems did by focusing only on this minute's circumstances and ignoring that their boycott and intimidation of neutral parties is not in reaction to the circumstances you describe. They sabotaged what you claim to want to embarrass Trump who reacted by appealing to the only sizeable group immune to leftist intimidation tactics.

            Why do you object to including the Dem contribution to something you dislike?

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The deal falls far short of President Donald Trump's early talk of regime change...

    IT ALWAYS DOES.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    We still don't know what types of restrictions Iran will agree to with regard to its nuclear program...

    I'm told it barely existed in the first place.

    1. JFree   2 months ago

      The world (or the Middle East) would be a lot better off if Iran had just gone for nuclear weapons in the 1990's when they instead made the decision not to. Or the 1980's when the Iraqis (supplied by the US) used WMD's on the Iranians. Bunch of Islamist Hamlets.

      Because the result was that Israel and the US have spent decades jockeying for King of the Mountain status by thinking they can bayonet a Persian Qaddafi up the ass.

      It would have been much more stable - or at least poetically just, for Iran, Turkey, Saudi, and Israel to all have nukes by now - with Russia, India, Pakistan, US, Britain, France on the periphery. Nukes are about deterrence - not usage.

      1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        Sadly you are stupid enough to believe IRGC psychos would not use the nuke

        1. JFree   2 months ago

          Yeah I know. They must have massively frustrated knowing that Netanyahu was publicly tracking their progress toward using a nuke since at least 1992. Three to five years then. 'Weeks or months' and 'imminent' and 'by next spring' since 2012. Either those Iranians are dumb as a box of rocks or they were vying for the Nobel Nuclear Chastity Prize.

          Course no matter how dumb (or abstinent) they are - YOU and your ilk are definitely dumb as a box of rocks and very useful idiots too. Netanyahu made a long career gulling you.

  8. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

    We do know. Iran will ignore the agreement and continue with their nuclear weapons program, and they will continue supporting terrorism.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      IRGC will for sure. They are flailing for power and relevancy still.

    2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      They will be bombed to hell. Why do you think they called and begged for Trump to stop the recent bombing after 2 days?

      The Gay Ayatollah has large amount of real estate around the world. Since he is a portion of the person he was before the excursion began, he probably wants to live and knows he must agree or he will lose everything.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The war did not produce a clear victor or a more stable regional order.

    EXCUSE ME. It was a victory for the LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBA community, as we now have the first LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBA Ayatollah.

    1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Was there a "niner" in there?

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Chipmaking giant Nvidia Corp. sold $25 billion of high-grade bonds...

    Those bonds are hot! Just like everything Nvidia produces.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    But they believe they can make a case for his legacy—as long as they can somehow disentangle it from Biden's ruinous decision to run for a second term.

    He will forever be blamed for Trump 2.0 (not the multitude of scandals that exist tidily under journalism's rug).

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      reportedly the only reason Brandon ran the second time was Charlottesville and SPLC is wholly responsible for Charlottesville ... blame SPLC

  12. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Can we finally stop relying on the failed keyenesian models of government?

    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-is-right-the-feds-economic-models-punish-growth-1e790360?st=nt3Bnt

    The Fed needs to be reformed. It hasn’t been achieving price stability. It has lost hundreds of billions of dollars after growing in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis. Its ample-reserves policy crowds out small businesses and market innovation. Its purchases of government bonds feed inequality.

    The most pressing issue concerns the Fed’s obsolete economic models, which punish growth. When the economy or jobs grow fast, the Fed’s Keynesian models prescribe rate increases. These models are built on the view that growth causes inflation and the Fed should enforce a low speed limit.

    The Fed’s inflation targeting sends wrong signals. Inflation is subject to distortion from fluctuations such as the current oil price shock and China’s dumping in the 2000s, which kept U.S. inflation artificially low, contributing to the 2008 financial crisis. The inflation model looks backward, misjudges regulatory burdens, undervalues energy production and ignores changes in the value of the dollar. It can’t keep pace with our fast-changing digital economy.

    Huh. Almost loke some of us have been saying. The models are broken. Keyenesian models are well known and simple though, so see a lot of arguments here utilizing the broken models without posters admitting they are pushing keyenesian. See boehm as an example.

    1. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Keyenesian economics are popular "because" they give justification for the spending behavior that politicians and government already want to partake in. It's popularity will never go away. That's like asking college children to not like socialism.

      1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        And as bad as Keynesian economics are, the fed govt isn't even following it. Keynesian economics would have us spend more and lower rates during a recession to stimulate the economy, but then cut spending and raise rates when you get out of the recession. Instead, the US kept rates low for a whole decade plus, and spent more and more each year (which is continuing to this day). Even following Keynesian prescription would result in an unending boom and bust cycle, as predicted by Hayek. But taking all brakes off the Keynesian system results in a debt bomb that will destroy the country eventually.

        1. Eeyore   2 months ago

          Can't expect them to follow the bit they don't like 🙂

          MMT is an even more dangerous political wet dream that will turn into a real world nightmare.

          1. Marshal   2 months ago

            MMT is a nonsense theory.

            Imagine you're tasked with going to Mars and your solution is to develop a "theory" that gravity doesn't exist so you can claim to have a solution.

            That's MMT.

    2. middlefinger   2 months ago

      From a “looks around” POV, subsidies cause inflation. Blue states hand out cash equivalent subsidies, aka..printing money. The subsidies exist on the premise that the non subsidized will suck it up and pay inflated prices for the subsidized stuff- food, apartments. energy , water, healthcare, transportation, etc. The idea is that the non subsidized will stay and pay for everything, as the NY governor said “you have our values”.

      When the non subsidized move to a red state, the blue states and cities fall into inflation, degrowth and bankruptcy. I guess Ezra Klein’s- *The Democrats* idea of economic growth is take the non subsidized assets at the federal level and hand out free shit to the bankrupt states.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        The models congress use allow the politician to set the Keyenesian multiplier. Pelosi chose 1.4 for all bill scoring.

        The largest factor they've ever seen in data is a .4.

        A false multiplier justified all DNC policies.

      2. Eeyore   2 months ago

        You just need to look at SNAP and junk food prices to see how government money distorts.

    3. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

      How does Trump's call for lower rates fit into this?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Rates dont have anything to do with it. He largely sees the fed rates as an artificial floor. Which it is. A floor set by terrible models and assumptions. Which he has called out multiple times.

        Feds shouldn't be setting rates at all.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Agreed. And really, every time you let a bunch of academic leftists decide anything, it always goes bad.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    I would rather celebrate America than Trump, and I fear this will become more about the self-styled emperor than about 250 years of this great country.

    I suggest counter programming to this kind of sickening nationalism where we join Hollywood to celebrate the triumph of globalism.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      I'll ask my parents whether they celebrated the Bicentennial or Gerald Ford's historic tour of Valley Forge, Philadelphia, New York, and D.C. but I already suspect I know the answer, if they even remember.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        I was pretty young, but I remember the bicentennial being a big deal.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

          The Freedom Train crossing the country.

  14. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Phil Stewart
    @phildstewart
    ·
    Follow
    MOU SIGNED, PER SENIOR U.S. OFFICIAL
    OFFICIAL SAYS:
    * TRUMP, VANCE SIGNED MOU, SO DID IRANIAN PARLIAMENTARY SPEAKER

    Did Damon and the jewfrees posting here see who is left out of the agreement? You know those of you claiming Iran has dominated the US? Hint. IRGC.

    But some of you want the IRGC to take over for some retarded reason, mostly to see trump fail.

    For weeks now trump and his administration have been clear, the move is to push power from the IRGC/mullahs to the elected body. Pakistan has admitted this. Other global newspapers have.

    Yet some here cheer for the disruptive acts of the IRGC and terror proxies, almost like they are cheering for those groups.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      We still don't know what types of restrictions Iran will agree to with regard to its nuclear program, nor do we know what Israel will do with regard to Hezbollah and the fighting in southern Lebanon. We don't know how U.S.-Israeli relations will be impacted in the long run.

      Yet it hasn't stopped reasons favorite sources from declaring an Iranian victory.

  15. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

    Did Everyone Lose?

    Not Iran. They lost all the "battles", but will have won the war if this deal sticks. They came out of this stronger than they went in. The deal, as much as we can tell since the Trump administration won't show us (which is telling) will:

    cut sanctions
    give Iran pallets of money that make Obama's look cute,
    allows them to keep enriching uranium
    sets us back from the JCPOA
    says nothing about not funding proxies
    May or may not allow Iran to collect fees in the strait
    and appears to be dependent on Lucy Netanyahu holding the Lebanon football

    This deal is nothing but a capitulation by Trump to end the disaster this was. The only thing of significance we gain is the opening of the strait...like it was before this idiocy.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      When are you moving there?

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        I guess right after Trump liberates the Iranian citizens.

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          So regime change is cool again?

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            The opposite of what is happening under trump is what is cool. Do you even QB bro?

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Based on outcomes? Pretty much.

          2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            Nope.

            No. It's just a better outcome once you've launch a regime change war, spent billions, killed thousands and spiked inflation.

            But really it's just to rub your noses in your failure and say, "I told you so."

            1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              Regime change may well still happen from within, but we all know you’re rooting against anything that might cast our president in a positive light, right comrade Quixy?

    2. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

      This deal is nothing but a capitulation by Trump to end the disaster this was. The only thing of significance we gain is the opening of the strait...like it was before this idiocy.

      The issue I have with this take is that, while correct, it doesn't change the fact that perhaps "capitulation" or what I might refer to as an off-ramp is the best option in this case. Especially when the other obvious option here is continuation of a dumb war based on the sunk-cost fallacy.

      We need to focus on how to prevent wars of choice from proceeding without majority support. That's where this whole mess has stemmed from, and that's the only solution that will prevent this from happening again. The War Power Resolution needs to be strengthened to reduce the power of the executive when it comes to making war. Maybe that's obvious, but nobody is talking about it.

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        an off-ramp is the best option in this case.

        Yes. I agree. I agree with your last paragraph too, but I take issue with your issue because I think the people that started and supported this war should be humiliated by this loss so this lesson sinks in...as if I had any hope such a thing was possible.

        1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

          The time for that is after a lasting peace deal. I'm afraid that goading Trump is playing into the NeoCons hands and we will be back at war as a way for him to avoid being embarrassed by the reality that his final deal is worse than Obama's.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            That makes sense.

        2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          There was no loss, comrade Quixy.

      2. Square = Circle   2 months ago

        The War Power Resolution needs to be strengthened to reduce the power of the executive when it comes to making war.

        The problem is that we've seen in real time that the President can simply ignore the WPR and Congress can't do anything about it. They already had a "we really mean it" vote and it failed. Issuing more strongly worded legislation is likely simply to backfire (again) and demonstrate Congress' basic inability to restrain the President's war-making powers.

        A Republic or an Empire - we can't have both, and we pretty much already have the latter, complete with Triumphal Arches. Now we just sit back and wait for the barbarians to arrive.

        1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

          I would be all for repealing the WPR, but I think that is unachievable. It would be easier to shorten the time a President is allowed to go it alone and to strengthen the definition of what is defensive vs offensive military action, and then hope that the courts grow a pair the next time a President violates the law.

          1. damikesc   2 months ago

            If a President ever challenged the WPA, it would not hold up. Congress' power to stop the wars would be to end funding.

        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          He isnt ignoring the WPA. It allows for action absent a congressional vote of disapproval, which congress did not give.

          Thats the system. Congress chose inaction.

          1. Square = Circle   2 months ago

            He isnt ignoring the WPA.

            He 100% is ignoring the WPA. That you approve is irrelevant.

            Thats the system. Congress chose inaction.

            Yes, that's . . . exactly the point I was making.

          2. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

            It allows for action for up to 60 days and a 30 day extension for safe withdrawal. The action must be in response to, "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."

            Not only is it a huge stretch to say this meets the criteria in Section 2.c., he's also in violation of the 90 day limit unless you believe that renaming a conflict makes it a new conflict.

  16. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    discovered a new, powerful negotiating chip in closing the Strait of Hormuz.

    Discovered is wrong, it was their "nuclear option"; it's why they had mine laying boats on hand. Question remains whether it has now been normalized and that at any Israel counterattack to an attack will immediately met with a closure. I kinda of doubt it will since it will most certainly be met with a blockade which harms them as well but time will tell.

    1. Square = Circle   2 months ago

      Discovered is wrong, it was their "nuclear option"

      Yeah - I suspect they already knew they could do that, but I also agree that they would be right to hesitate to tie it to any Israeli attack as it would be much harder to find a clear off-ramp, and closing the Strait hurts them, too.

    2. damikesc   2 months ago

      It has inspired the other ME states to find ways to bypass Hormuz ENTIRELY. So, this is a very poor strategy Iran pursued.

  17. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    TRUMP RALLY of them all, a 'TRIBUTE TO AMERICA

    As long as the taxpayer isn't paying for this (and we should be making a few bucks on renting the land for a political rally), I don't care. Sad thing is though we probably are paying for, fuck you cut spending.

  18. Marshal   2 months ago

    I would rather celebrate America than Trump, and I fear this will become more about the self-styled emperor than about 250 years of this great country.

    Me too, but the left won't celebrate America and already intimidated neutral artists into a boycott. So that's not really an option is it?

    It's too bad you didn't mention the Resistance! counter programming during the UFC fights / celebration the other night. How pathetic was that?

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Even major newspapers were embarassed by that counter programming crap.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        What? Isn’t Bette Midler singing ‘All You Fascists Bound to Lose’ a proud moment for the left?

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Nothing say toalrace like death threats to someone who disagrees with you

    3. Square = Circle   2 months ago

      So that's not really an option is it?

      No, it is. You're not actually beholden to doing what either side tells you.

    4. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Funny how a Reason wrings their hands, clutches their pearls, and shit their pants over this, but isn’t even slightly concerned about the trillion dollars a year in democrat fraud against the federal government.

  19. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    as long as they can somehow disentangle it from Biden's ruinous decision to run for a second term."

    And his ruinous spending upon spending, his over zealous response to force the jab, his clear mental decline during the whole of his term, his non materializing infrastructure projects, his disastrous energy policy, ect....

    1. Square = Circle   2 months ago

      Don't forget the fake cancer charity, or the fake doctor-wife, or the public policy school money-laundering operation.

  20. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Did Everyone Lose?

    JD Vance thinks he's winning. I'm guessing today's podcast appearance will be costly.

    1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      JD Vance is wrong about winning.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        tbd ... his 2026 is not impressing me and his friends give me pause about his character

        1. Marshal   2 months ago

          I did not expect Rubio to outperform Vance by such a large margin. but he has and he'll be the favorite going into the next campaign.

          The only question is: did he learn his lesson about agreeing to open borders with Dems?

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            mho he didn't learn a fucking thing about anything and his office is the leak ... got sent on a snipe hunt with the fraud czar job

            1. Marshal   2 months ago

              His office probably does leak but I don't think anyone can stop that. Essentially everyone who works for State is a leftist loyal only to their faction.

              Regardless Rubio has taken on essentially every job Trump needs filled and there don't seem to be any massive missteps. Meanwhile Vance has stepped on his dick several times and his only job was insulting Zelenskyy.

              But we'll see about Rubio. His announcement tanked his candidacy last time so I would think he would reconsider. In fact he'll probably have to be adamant about it to win the primary.

              1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                if the primary were today ...

  21. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>... and I fear this will become more about the self-styled emperor than about 250 years of this great country.

    tell your ladies' text thread about your fears

    1. Nardz Leftist Kill Count: 0   2 months ago

      Righteous dude! Nothing says hippie more than unwavering support for a billionaire, conservative politician and misogyny!

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        so we're clear, I'm spoken for.

        1. Nardz Leftist Kill Count: 0   2 months ago

          I don’t swing that way and avoid the shithole south. Also I smoke weed so I know that’s a no-go for you. You’re for bombing suspected drug dealers so I assume you steer clear of any illegal drugs so you don’t get blown up.

          1. NealAppeal   2 months ago

            So edgy (dreamy sigh)

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        But enough about Soros...

  22. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Anthropic drama

    the backalley beatdown from the other guys seems pending

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      This is hilarious to me. Anthropic puts out all these reports on how their AI hacks, blackmails, finds vulnerabilities (when Ai is told to do so), then anthropic is upset when these brags are used to stop foreign sales.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        >>blackmails

        I assume this is also pending ... against the regulators

  23. Dillinger   2 months ago

    Supremes turned their back on the lifetime appointment clause lol. free Judge Pauline Newman!

  24. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    "Chipmaking giant Nvidia Corp. sold $25 billion of high-grade bonds, joining a wave of jumbo debt offerings from tech heavyweights as investors clamor to get exposure to the artificial intelligence boom,

    They know the debt will be inflated away.

  25. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    What a fucking clown show these writers are. Seriously how can opposite world continue to be promoted by stupid fuckers?

    Citing TDS addled haters and people who have no fucking clue for comment? No one gives a shit what idiots whom every time they open their mouths they are wrong. Especially when they are attempting to play the opposite world prediction game because they DO NOT KNOW SHIT ABOT ANYTHING.

  26. jagjr   2 months ago

    "Months of fighting revealed that multiple countries can impose costs,"

    um. duh. wtf??

  27. Bruce   2 months ago

    The reason Democrats hate having the monumental fountains and pools, like the reflecting pool, cleaned, repaired, restored and beautified, is because for them it is a symbol of what they fear most:

    draining the swamp.

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