The Trump Administration Plans To Repeal EPA Finding That Greenhouse Gas Emissions 'Threaten' Public Health
The EPA under the Obama and Biden administrations invoked that finding to adopt strict and costly regulations aiming to reduce emissions.
The Trump administration will overturn the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) 2009 Endangerment Finding, according to The Wall Street Journal and other media outlets. Under the Clean Air Act, the EPA found that greenhouse gas emissions "threaten the public health and welfare of current and future generations." The threat stems from the fact that greenhouse gas emissions, largely from burning coal, oil, and natural gas, are contributing to rising average global temperatures. (As of this article's publication, the original finding is still up at the EPA's website.)
Based on this finding, the EPA under the Obama administration and the Biden administration adopted various regulations aiming to reduce those emissions, including the imposition of strict and costly automobile and power plant emissions reduction requirements.
Even the Department of Energy's handpicked Climate Working Group acknowledged in a 2025 report that "carbon dioxide also acts as a greenhouse gas, exerting a warming influence on climate and weather." American Enterprise Institute Senior Fellow Roger Pielke Jr. argues that acknowledgment is sufficient to meet the highly precautionary legal threshold for an endangerment finding under the Clean Air Act. That legal standard was set by the U.S. Supreme Court in its 2007 Massachusetts v. EPA decision. The majority of the court declared, "Under the Act's clear terms, EPA can avoid promulgating regulations only if it determines that greenhouse gases do not contribute to climate change or if it provides some reasonable explanation as to why it cannot or will not exercise its discretion to determine whether they do." (Emphasis added.)
As legal scholar and Volokh Conspiracy contributor Jonathan Adler has observed, whether the Trump administration can find a winning legal argument for why the 2007 decision is wrong is yet to be determined. However, it is worth noting that the Supreme Court as currently constituted has not been shy about overturning prior decisions, and that three of the four justices who dissented in the Massachusetts case are still sitting on the court's bench.
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What does big bunny have to say about this?
Or Bugs Bunny for that matter.
Or even Bugsy Malone.
No love for bugsy Segal?
Good. This was an inappropriate use of that clause.
Did you not look at the scary picture of those smokestacks?
Almost forgot:
More Testing Needed!
Man should not mess around with God's creation; He can "fix" this.
https://notthebee.com/article/great-news-global-warming-is-actually-helping-stop-global-warming
The science is settled!
Obama in 2009 instructed the EPA to rule in a certain way based on his political view of the world. The EPA then developed the wording to support that "scientific" conclusion AND regulate our lives based on that conclusion.
Following the science is fine, but you have to be honest about your data first. After that, the politicians need to bear in mind that science provides numbers based on the questions asked. Policy decisions are never purely based on science, but always include the politician's personal bias.
The endangerment finding was a certainty before the instructions were out of Obama's mouth.
Does Koch know? That regulatoons are bad? His ranking of presidents doesnt seem to show he does.
Amazing. Does the Supreme Court ever *read* the F'En US Constitution anymore.
Where is the authority for Federal Weather-Control Legislation to be found at all?
SCOTUS has got to be the worse branch at doing their jobs while also being the only branch protecting the people from their government over-lords.
So very, very bad in fact the executive now has to half-*ss the job for them.
>As legal scholar and Volokh Conspiracy contributor Jonathan Adler has observed, whether the Trump administration can find a winning legal argument for why the 2007 decision is wrong is yet to be determined.
This is hilarious. Was there a legal argument for why the decision was correct in 2007?
I thought we were doing science here but I guess climate change is a *matter of law* instead.
I'm not seeing in that decision anywhere that they cite a statute that requires the EPA to treat a minor amount of warming as an actual harm. Or that even precludes the EPA from arriving at the conclusion that a little warming would be beneficial.
I do not see the word harm...
"Even the Department of Energy's handpicked Climate Working Group acknowledged in a 2025 report that "carbon dioxide also acts as a greenhouse gas, exerting a warming influence on climate and weather.""
There is no evidence of CO2 causing harm, it has helped the earth. Been in a tight fit concert hall with 100's o 1000's of people? CO2 ppm over 2000, no harm. The best greenhouses grow our food at over 1200 ppm now.
Water vapour, dangerous? How are clouds dangerous? Why are there less clouds now since the 1970's in the regions that deforestation has occurred on massive scales? Somehow fossil fuels just destroyed everything?
Overlooking the source of the emissions and harm more dangerous than CO2?
The biggest rule ignored is correlation does not prove causation. Pakistan burned 85% of it's forests in 50 years as the amazon lost a million sQuare miles, all to burning... Think of the species in the zoo, most came from the lands now destroyed, are endangered, nothing to do with "fossil fuels".
Water is a much bigger contributor to warming in atmospheric feedback. Imagine the power that government would have declaring water a pollutant.
Well, it is highly corrosive over time, deadly in high concentrations, and capable of causing death by drowning.
Clearly it must be regulated until eliminated.
cite from a journal that exists on library shelves .
Clearly you haven't followed the global warming debate in detail.
The effect of CO2 has largely maxed out, the atmosphere is already opaque in the frequency bands CO2 blocks out, increasing it further only has logarithmic effects.
Most of the warming in the models is based on the assumption that the slight degree of warming from the CO2 causes more water to evaporate; H2O is also a greenhouse gas, and the frequency bands IT blocks are still mostly open, so it's an effective one.
So, CO2 is supposed to warm things indirectly, by influencing water.
Complicating this is that more water in the atmosphere causes more clouds, and clouds can have a cooling effect, instead, OR warming, depending on time of day and altitude. So it's not as simple as "more water = hotter".
They have each time they say greenhouse gases are harming the earth since water vapour is 65% of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.
Co2 caused poison ivy to grow. Poison ivy causes harmful itches!
National Institute of Health Guidelines for Euthanasia Using Carbon Dioxide: 2020 Edition
When using CO2, death should be induced as painlessly and quickly as possible… Animals must be euthanized by trained personnel in a well-ventilated area using appropriate technique, equipment, and agents. Compressed CO2 gas in cylinders is the only acceptable source of carbon dioxide as it allows the
inflow of gas to the induction chamber to be controlled. Dry ice as a source of CO2 and/or pre-filled chambers are not acceptable…Place the animal(s) in the chamber and introduce CO2 at a fill rate of 30-70% displacement of the chamber volume per minute with CO2, added to the existing air in the chamber. This is appropriate to achieve a balanced gas mixture to fulfill the objective of rapid unconsciousness with minimal distress to the animals.
Expected time to unconsciousness is usually within 2 to 3 minutes. Maintain CO2 flow for a minimum of 1 minute after respiration ceases... an additional passive exposure time of 3 minutes reliably results in irreversible euthanasia for mice, and an additional 10.5 minutes of passive exposure reliably results in irreversible euthanasia for rats."
There is a strong difference between 1% (more than if we burned every fossil fuel on the planet) and 100%. It isn't poisonous, it just displaces oxygen
Breathe pure oxygen spiked with 7% CO2, and, in a matter of minutes, you will cease to be an idiotic disgrace to the Reason commentariat
I'm pretty sure that 7% is more than 1%, so why did you think you were responding to what he wrote?
If you burned every bit of fossil fuel on Earth, the CO2 level would not reach a biologically dangerous level that would cause toxic effects. The CO2 level inside houses routinely gets higher than the highest level burning every bit of carbon on Earth could manage.
So actual toxicity is not an issue.
"why did you think you were responding to what he wrote?"
Because he wrote:
" There is no evidence of CO2 causing harm, it has helped the earth. Been in a tight fit concert hall with 100's o 1000's of people? CO2 ppm over 2000, no harm. The best greenhouses grow our food at over 1200 ppm now."
You think the earth's atmosphere will get to this condition? You are an idiot. Next you will say humans will turn earth into Venus and boil the oceans because of releasing CO2.
Okay go lock yourself in box an increase CO2 until it displaces 70% of the air in the box. Have a nice sleep.
Do you understand the difference between 70% of the content of box and 2000 ppm? I guess not since you just said you don't.
The "endangerment" finding was wrong in 2009 and is very long overdue to be repealed.
Years ago I decided the best way to be about these things, wherein public policy is supposed to be determined by matters of fact, is totally cynical, like the Martians in the movie of Mars Attacks! eviscerating and looting everybody while telling them they're their friends. I'm all for lying as blatantly as possible to get my/our way, because nobody should trust such institutions for factual analysis, and it serves them right to be fooled. The thing to be is the fooler, not the fooled.
Similarly, I'd rule by executive decree in all jurisdictions worldwide that all drugs, pesticides, medical devices, etc. are safe and effective, so they'll be legal to sell.
If this is to be a low-trust society, go all the way, and laugh about it. Abolish law and lawyers. That'll be the quickest way to get to be a high trust society. We'll all just have to know each other.
I'm so old I remember when *Reason's* motto was "free minds snd free markets". Now the writers mostly seem to be "oh big daddy government, regulate me harder!"
Liz Wolfe, maybe Robby Soave sometimes...are there any othe libertarians on staff here? If I wanted to read progressive cock-gobbling I could go to *The Atlantic* or many other sites...I'd like to see this publication at least pretend to be libertarian now and then, we don't have many other options.
The fact that "carbon dioxide also acts as a greenhouse gas, exerting a warming influence on climate and weather" is true, has been known for like 100 years, and is irrelevant and uninteresting. That truth does not mean that greenhouse gases "threaten the public health and welfare of current and future generations".
The EPA can "promulgate" as many or as few regulations as the President determines are appropriate. This is an excellent action by the Trump admin if it actually follows through.
The whole issue is moot.
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Climate Change Benefits Mankind, so the idea of CO2 being a pollutant is silly. See my substack robertajones.substack.com for the details.