Trump Backpedals From Portraying Alex Pretti As a 'Domestic Terrorist' and 'Would-Be Assassin'
Although the president initially reinforced that plainly inaccurate narrative, his subsequent comments cast doubt on the initial justification for shooting the Minneapolis protester.
After Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent Jonathan Ross fatally shot Minneapolis protester Renee Good on January 7, President Donald Trump claimed she "violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense." Trump added that "it is hard to believe he is alive" after that purported vehicular assault. A week later, the president retreated from that characterization. Although "her actions were pretty tough," he told CBS News, "I would bet you that she, under normal circumstances, was a very solid, wonderful person."
Something similar happened after U.S. Border Patrol agents fatally shot another Minneapolis protester, Alex Pretti, on Saturday morning. Various Trump administration officials immediately described Pretti as "a domestic terrorist" and "would-be assassin" who was "brandishing" a gun, who "was there to perpetuate violence," who "attacked those officers," who "tried to assassinate federal law enforcement," and who "wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement." Although Trump initially reinforced that framing, his subsequent comments suggested the circumstances of Pretti's death were not as clear as those officials implied.
In both cases, video evidence contradicted the government's version of events. Since millions of Americans have seen footage of the Good and Pretti shootings, which does not support the claim that either was bent on murder, Trump had to choose between sticking with a clearly false narrative, asking Americans to disbelieve their lying eyes, and back-pedaling from that blatantly inaccurate story. Although respect for reality has never been one of Trump's strong suits, he seems to have taken the latter course.
In a Truth Social post on Saturday afternoon, Trump echoed Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem, Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino, and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, all of whom asserted that Pretti intended to kill the agents who killed him. "This is the gunman's gun," Trump wrote above a photograph of the 9-mm Sig Sauer pistol that Pretti was legally carrying. The handgun was "loaded" and "ready to go," Trump said, faulting "the local Police" for failing to "protect" the Border Patrol agents.
The implication of murderous intent was complicated by videos of the incident showing that Pretti never unholstered his gun, which the agents did not discover until after they tackled him. The footage also indicated that one of the agents had disarmed Pretti by the time the shooting started.
In a Truth Social post on Sunday afternoon, Trump took a notably different tack, blaming state and local Democrats for creating "chaos" by refusing to cooperate with his immigration crackdown. "Tragically," Trump wrote, "two American Citizens have lost their lives as a result."
White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt was singing the same tune. "Nobody, including President Trump, wants to see people get shot or hurt," she told CBS News. "That's exactly why [Minnesota] Governor [Tim] Walz and [Minneapolis] Mayor [Jacob] Frey need to allow local police to work with federal law enforcement to remove illegal alien criminals, murderers, and pedophiles from Minnesota."
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Doug Collins, whose department employed Pretti as an intensive care nurse in Minneapolis, echoed that message in an X post on Sunday afternoon. "As President Trump has said, nobody wants to see chaos and death in American cities, and we send our condolences to the Pretti family," he wrote. "Such tragedies are unfortunately happening in Minnesota because of state and local officials' refusal to cooperate with the federal government to enforce the law and deport dangerous illegal criminals."
As Trump, Leavitt, and Collins tell it, criticism from Democrats such as Walz and Frey has encouraged protests against immigration enforcement, which in turn have created the circumstances in which ICE and Border Patrol agents feel compelled to use force against protesters. Whatever you make of that argument, the language used by Trump and Collins is telling. If Good and Pretti were in fact bent on murdering immigration agents, it would be strange to describe their deaths as "tragedies," as opposed to the obviously justified consequences of violent aggression. When police or bystanders interrupt a mass shooting by killing the gunman, for example, politicians do not view that use of deadly force as a tragedy.
That label suggests Good and Pretti died in complicated circumstances that may have involved errors or misunderstandings. That does not necessarily mean the shootings were legally unjustified. It is possible that Ross and the Border Patrol agents reasonably perceived potentially deadly threats at the moment they fired their weapons, even if that perception seems mistaken in retrospect (although it both cases the rounds fired after the initial shot seem especially hard to justify). But that is a far cry from the snap judgments that federal officials, including Trump, made immediately after the shootings, which portrayed Good and Pretti—U.S. citizens with no criminal records or known histories of violence—as malicious and murderous.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Sunday, Trump notably declined to say whether he thought the agents who shot Pretti had acted appropriately in the circumstances. "We're reviewing everything and will come out with a determination," he said.
Trump nevertheless suggested there was something inherently suspect about Pretti's decision to exercise his constitutional right to bear arms. "I don't like any shooting," he said. "But I don't like it when somebody goes into a protest and he's got a very powerful, fully loaded gun with two magazines loaded up with bullets also. That doesn't play good either."
Trump seems to think that anyone who brings a gun to a protest is asking for trouble, a position that is hard to reconcile with his avowed commitment to "protecting Second Amendment rights." Nor is that the only reason to doubt that the review he promises will satisfactorily address the questions that any fair-minded person would have after watching footage of the Pretti shooting. That review is being conducted by the Department of Homeland Security, the head of which has already prejudged the outcome.
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Shots were fired.
At least everyone got home safe.
So, we are or aren't going to deny him amnesty for the *one* death?
Mr. Miyagi sez: "Best defense, no be 'dere."
Is this like when you backpedalled regarding the Good shooting? Wait no. You just kept justifying why your bullshit lies about it were germane.
It is why I decided to not read this genetic U-turn's writing.
I am glad Pretti is dead. Wish more Minneapolis residents would join him.
Libertarians for wishing people we don't agree with dead.
Oh. Is that all that happened? A disagreement? Why is every one of your posts based on lying leftist framing?
Then you should show endless gratitude for allowing you to love this long Sarc. Remember when you threatened me three years ago?
I sure as fuck do. Do pray that your faggot Marxist friends don’t cause the gloves to come off. Should that happen, things will likely get real fucking bad for you Sarc.
No corrections and no shame. Was just arguing with Tuccille (or was it Lancaster) on X where he denied the most basic facts on video after making emotionally charged and factually weak arguments.
Trump is altering his stance based on new information? Which you have failed to do about the Good shooting and . . . well, all the Trump indictments.
That's how you're spinning this? How about Trump ran his mouth and unleashed a torrent of verbal diarrhea before he had a clue what happened?
Now do yourself, Frey, Waltz, aoc, and every other democrats retard. Wait. You fall for their lies. So carry on.
Dude, he admits he is wrong, kind of, which is what everyone wants.
Only TDS would not want that.
The problem is that even when Trump knows the narrative is wrong, his fanatical followers still can't bring themselves to admit it, along with any sense of reflection, nuance, humility, etc., which Trump actually can have (occasionally).
This is the reason that "TDS" is continuously misapplied - it clearly belongs to the sycophants, not the haters - those conformist, blubbering fools who daydream about grabbing their ankles the first time they ever get to meet their "hero" Stephen Miller.
This is the reason that "TDS" is continuously misapplied - it clearly belongs to the sycophants, not the haters - those conformist, blubbering fools who daydream about grabbing their ankles the first time they ever get to meet their "hero" Stephen Miller.
This would seem to suggest that you think homosexuality is a mental disease.
The vast majority of people applying the TDS assertion continually point out, usually from an impartial vantage point, how sufferers would completely contradict any and all principles, even down to basic biology and free choice, because of Trump or their perception of people aligned with Trump.
Meanwhile, Reason wonders aloud "Where did all the pro-2A (and law and order, FAFO, play stupid games win stupid prizes...) Republicans go?"
My guess would be that Miller is a bottom.
Yeah, it's Trump that's running his mouth, not the Left at all. You fucking piece of shit.
No that was Biden and all demonrats and the lame stream media you adore who did that. Always creating lies immediately after without any evidence or facts. Just spew lies.
Iran bombing failed, Trump tear gassed peaceful protesters for a Bible photo Op, Border patrol on horseback whipping illegals like slaves, Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation, and of course, Rittenhouse, Smollett, Zachary Young, Sandmann, etc.
Can you be honest once?
Meanwhile, we're still getting stories from Ron "9X VAXXED!" Bailey about how the COVID vaccines that are so 100% safe and effective you have to get them every 3-4 mos., apparently, cure cancer.
Probably the best thing about [R]epublicans is there ability to be sensible instead of endlessly playing [WE] Identify-as gang RULES games.
Pretti was part of ICE watch. A group of marxist who have political goals counter to the current, democratically elected administration. They organize on Signal where they express their stated aim of tracking federal agents and impeding, assaulting, or obstructing their operations.
Dailymail confirms Pretti's association but characterized it as a Woke vigilante chat groups accused of dispatching Alex Pretti to Minneapolis DHS arrest
If the group had been Islamist instead of Marxists, people would all agree he had been radicalized online.
Everything about this fits the textbook definition of terrorism.
I would say insurrection rather than terrorism.
Documented look at how this entire group is a color revolution to impede congressionally passed laws and enforcement.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/minneapolis-signal-gate-alleged-anti-ice-low-level-insurgency-command-exposed-messaging
It’s time to get rid of the democrats . Can we all finally acknowledge that out loud? They’re not coming back from this. The only alternative is letting them transform America into a Marxist shithole.
So much easier to dispose of them.
"Everything about this fits the textbook definition of terrorism."
What did Alex Pretti do that seemed like terrorism to you? Who was experiencing terror as a result of his actions?
Do you have eyes? Are you capable of individual thought? Do you have any clue about the rule of law and how law enforcement upholds it?
Do you think Walz is a good leader?
Do you think Frey as Mayor or Walz as Governor have the authority to take control of federal law enforcement, impede their actions, or stop them from performing their legal actions?
When a person has no answer, they deflect and ask questions.
So why did the victim leave all his papers (DL, CCW permit, etc) home when he went to peacefully protest?
Some are reporting he erased his social media accounts before he went to peacefully protest, if true, why did he do that?
He was carrying a loaded pistol and two extra clips of ammo - to attend a peaceful protest?
His parents, the people that arguably know him the best, since he was living in their house at the time of the protest tried to discourage him from attending the protest and "doing something stupid." What were they afraid their man-child son might do at the peaceful protest?
I find it very hard to believe this fellow, the victim, thought he might find himself defending his life and needing nearly three dozen rounds for "self-protection."
At the very least, it's interesting that Pretti had 3 dozen rounds and totally wasn't going to do anything but Ross had at least a full magazine, fired 3 shots, hit his one intended target while being hit with a car, and was supposedly being reckless to the point of unequivocal murder.
It's almost like these people are 4 yr. olds that don't understand the difference between lighting a fire in the fireplace to heat your home and setting fires around a building to burn it down...
Oh wait, that's right, "mostly peaceful".
He had three extended magazines holding 21 rounds. SIXTY-THREE ROUNDS. He was on his way to commit a mass shooting. Lives were saved when the federal agents interdicted him.
Exactly...
Whether or not the Pretti shooting was justified has nothing to do with any intent he had for being there. What justifies the shooting is that he was in the process of committing a felony and resisting arrest and a reasonable perception of a threat of death or grave bodily harm.
He was also committing crimes by carrying without having ID or his permit on him, and by committing the crimes against the officers while armed.
And, once again, Freddie Gray was just walking down the street with a legal knife in his pocket.
The right didn't go anywhere
VD, do you think that everyone carrying 60+ rounds with them can be prejudged as being on the way to commit a mass shooting? There would be many more mass shootings if that prejudgment were accurate.
When that person belongs to a subversive organization dedicated to obstructing law enforcement, and he deliberately goes to a riot, and while there starts a fight with LEOs, there is nothing "pre" about the judgement. He acted on his hostile intentions. Fortunately he was stopped before he could do worse. And no, I've never met anyone who carries for personal protection who brings 63 rounds to go on an innocent errand.
And no, I've never met anyone who carries for personal protection who brings 63 rounds to go on an innocent errand.
Conversely, when I do go to pick up 60+ rounds as an innocent errand, I have to present ID confirming that I'm not, in fact a terrorist. My kids can't even pick up the box in the store on the presumption of violence/terrorism.
There's been a longstanding presumption of violent terrorism from pretty much everyone on my side of the nearest (couple of) imaginary social constructs. Reason and aligned interests literally and repeatedly, to their own beclowning, pay it absolutely zero mind.
VD, Trumpists are subversive in their support of a person who among many other offenses tried to justify canceling the US Constitution when he lost the 2020 presidential election. I am surprised that you would justify the killing of the January 6 rioters at the US Capitol, at least the armed ones.
It is questionable whether Pretti’s actions constitute "starting a fight". Perhaps a court will examine the issue if his killers have to stand trial, murder usually being a state crime. Of course, state sovereignty, like the right to keep and bear arms and Congress's control of tariffs are traditional conservative values that Trumpists deny as needed according to the whims of their Leader.
In re carrying ammo, perhaps I know more gun enthusiasts than you because I have known people who habitually are unlikely to run dry in a firefight.
Word salad.
VD, I sympathize with your struggle to understand.
For one element of my reply, let us try again:
You write, "When that person belongs to a subversive organization dedicated to obstructing law enforcement, and he deliberately goes to a riot, and while there starts a fight with LEOs[...]".
Do not your words apply to the rioters -- especially the Proud Boys and similar groups -- at the US Capitol on 6 January 2020 when they attempted to subvert the results of the presidential election?
Just because that is what you think happened in your partisan hack twisted halfwit brain, doesn't make it true.
So weird you haven't said that to any of the right wingers making assumptions and sucking the state narrative boot.
Non sequiturs and strawmen aside, Why would anyone converse with you when you presuppose their beliefs and spew lies and debunked fake news?
NnN, do you think that everyone carrying 60+ rounds with them can be prejudged as being on the way to commit a mass shooting?
I cringed when I heard Noem and Trump attempting to characterize the motives of Good and Pretti as there was clearly no evidence to support the claim and also, and more importantly, it is completely irrelevant in determining the legal justification for the shootings.
False. Retardedly false.
See Daniel Perry, Daniel Penny, Kyle Rittenhouse, Alec Baldwin...
People face charges based on their intent, or supposed lack thereof, all the time.
Lots of us wish it were as straightforward as "Alec Baldwin pointed a loaded, functioning firearm at someone and pulled the trigger. Killing them and pretty grievously injuring the person behind them. None of these facts are in dispute. Guilty of manslaughter and reckless endangerment. Case closed." but many here at Reason, specifically argue against such "ruthless" objectivity.
Except there was
Walz +10.
You cringed because you knew what you heard was false.
So... Prima Donnald is more reasonable than the kakistocracy he has assembled?!?!?
Nothing reasonable about not labeling people who are terrorists, terrorists. Dunce.
So Good and Pretti were "terrorists" huh? Congratulations... in a furious race to the top of the MAGA debasment scale, you're firmly in the lead. Go ahead and tap that shoulder to celebrate your utter lack of morals, decency, intelligence and common sense. Fucking tool.
Seek help, you are delusional and can't accept reality or the rule of law.
A maga spouting about the rule of law is the most comical thing I have ever seen in my life.
One internet sleuth believes it was all an accidental discharge of Pretti's gun when it was taken from him. The rest of the ICE agents were responding to that and the comment 'There's a Gun'.
The photos are in the link.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/minnesota-shooting-seemingly-caused?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#media-4153312f-9dc9-4320-ac8b-b4c0803cbf28
One internet sleuth believes it was all an accidental discharge of Pretti's gun when it was taken from him.
And, of course, it was a Sig.
Yes, I hear there is an investigation of such problems with that model
The pattern of the gunshots also makes sense. Single shot followed by a short pause and burst fire.
"plainly inaccurate narrative"
WTF? Plainly inaccurate? These "protestors" are terrorists, plain and simple! They terrorize people for political gain. Do you just spend all day watching CNN videos? F*** you, Reason.
They have been standing up for left-wing rioters and terrorists for a while now. If they admit that's what these people are doing then it says a lot about the writers.
Not the maksed getapo? You idiots would love it in China, or N Korea, or Iran, even. Absolutely love how they do things.
Although the president initially reinforced that plainly inaccurate narrative, his subsequent comments cast doubt on the initial justification for shooting the Minneapolis protester.
No. His subsequent comments reinforce to his cultees that
a)sometimes Trump's dingleberries taste of lavender with a hint of oak and perhaps blueberries and
b)other times Trump's dingleberries invoke a desire to invade Greenland and club baby seals.
Any thought of that protestor who ran into bullets just distracts from paying attention to the greatest President in world history. Who is STILL having his Nobel Peace Prize stolen.
Seek help, you are delusional and can't accept reality or the rule of law.
When did the comments become a Trump fan site?
There was no "accidental discharge" of Pretti's weapon that I could hear. It still doesn't explain why it takes 10 shots to stop a man held down by several agents after he has been disarmed for the crime of filming ICE agents and trying to assist gassed bystanders. He was a nurse, after all, and a licensed gun permit holder. All the rest of his "intent" is pure conjecture, without proof.
There's a difference between conjecture and reasoning.
There was no "accidental discharge" of Pretti's weapon that I could hear.
Wow. "I couldn't hear the lack of intent of a weapon being discharged." Great impartial detective work their Confucius.
I'd say the way you manage to start out at abjectly retarded and go downhill from there would be impressive if it weren't so dangerous and dishonest.
Republicans who support National Defense against invading [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] were here long before Trump ever came into the picture.
Actually, there appears to have been an accidental discharge, by the guy who disarmed Pretti:
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/minnesota-shooting-seemingly-caused?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#media-4153312f-9dc9-4320-ac8b-b4c0803cbf28
And one shot set off the ICE reaction when they assumed it was coming from the perp.
Since you don't know and there's an investigation why spew a bunch of bs nonsense?
Trump fan site? When did the demonrats and lame stream media all become simps for Soros and China and Reason mag writers follow suit?
"When did the comments become a Trump fan site?" -- JH
It's been a degeneration over years. The proportion of comments from nonlibertarians was lower on articles from more than a decade ago.
Pure conjecture is a maga mainstay. You are right about the TDS Reason comment section. Barely a libertarian here. Maga, like they often do, have to take over and be the loudest most vulgur humans.
8:58AM (Pre General-Video) Pretti and the mob are shown being pushed back to the side of road by ICE.
8:59AM Pretti goes back into the street (direct traffic) & the mob is right there again.
Pretti yells at the officers and heads towards them.
After this part ALL video is *missing* from collected video.
When ICE pushes them back again more forcefully to the other side of the road.
Pretti grabs the ICE officer and tries to push the officer back.
This is when Pretti gets pepper-sprayed and tackled. As one would expect.
And here is my own personal opinion on the matter.
When the officer disarms Pretti the officer next to him doesn't acknowledge/see with all the arms flying that it was removed by a fellow officer so yells 'Gun' because he saw an arm with a Gun in it.
And that is exactly the point the ICE officer pushes his fellow officers back and shoots Pretti.
It adds up to a bad shoot for me. If he is peacefully standing on the sidewalk protesting with a sidearm there never would have been an issue. His actions created the conflict that spurred the chain of events leading to his death. The officers earned a day in court and he earned a Darwin award.
The officers earned a day in court and he earned a Darwin award.
Maybe if Reason and the MSM hadn't poisoned the well repeatedly.
Not that it should exculpate them from facing trial, but that even if one were conducted would be a farce. Maybe less of a farce than E. Jean Carroll, but a farce nonetheless.
*If AD*... it could actually put Sig on the hook (and "rightly" take taxpayers off) and Trump and even
actual libertarians"pro-2A Republicans" could get behind it. Carrying your EDC shouldn't be carrying a destructive device that could go off at any moment and get you killed, but, again... well... poisoned...If Alec Baldwin can face not even a trial, but no charges for pointing a more-or-less functioning firearm at someone's face, pulling the trigger, and killing them and critically wounding the person behind them, I don't see how an AD precipitating someone else's firing is reasonably actionable.
^^^Yup^^^
Having masked Gestapo in the streets created the conflict.
You're right. The useful-idiot army of [D]emon-crap [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s].
I swear if leftards didn't have Self-Projection day-in and day-out they'd have nothing at all to say.
Well...I don't back off calling him a pedo, a coward, a Bolshevik butch, a fake, a malodorous snob, the queen of jews... in other words... a Bitcoin bum!
Good for you. If you have something constructive to say, please do.
Trump's shift of attitude, although too late to help Good or Pretti, will save lives down the street, or in the next city. Tom Homan will make the ICE operations more focused on specific targets. How Noem modifies remains to be seen.
No. For ICE to perform and America to be cleaned up, crime lowered and a massive reduction of the fraud of tax payers dollars is to occur, DEMONRAT Mayors, Governors and congress peeps need to stop lying, inciting riots and insurrection and start supporting federal law enforcement as the law requires.
People don''t accept that Agent Orange never says things straight up, never. We know he is negotiating other things, some regarding the improvised non-constitutional decisions that some urban authorities can declare their city as Sanctuaries as if they were a principality. The 10th Amendment mentions 3 Sovereignty... The Federal, the different States and the People. They are no specific rights delegated to cities or urban areas. Therefore, any authority thereof must be negotiated with the States and the People... It is what the 10th Amendment is all about. And the State is impregnated with those authorities that are not explicitly delegated to the Federal or to the People.
But more vicious... currently, giving that spectacle of untrained, undisciplined ICE street ballet thugs is so vulgar, is typing a signal that States should never put their rights or those of their residents above of any, legal or not, initiative of the federal government.
Further, trump having turned a servant of the higher interests of technologies such as fascist Bitcoin cancers, and internet rapists ISPs and hardware-software manufacturers.... there is the big war on the left's attempt to corner the excesses of corrupt private money, big tech, big pharma, biotech and AI. For example... just the internet ID pass for youth is something the Metas, the Goggles, the Xs and all don't want... they believe they are Sovereign over the whole of cosmos. I will let you figure out why by yourselves.
In the past 3 days google accounts asked my account password for "security" concerns over 100 times on my smart phone. Asked me to change it 3 times (but failed in the process many times), again for total security concerns, has blocked me from 10 sites on the pretext that my password was not good or they could not verify for security reasons and sent me a bunch of security alert (these are all techniques of libertarian supremacists to get you to surrender yourselves with total passivity as as slaves to their will)... it's what AI does. for the past year, canada has offered me to AI promoters as a guinea pig to the joy of corrupt feminists who have been shutting me up on the internet for more than 15 years. It's now (with AI assist for corrupt cops and feminists) apparently much more fun for corrupt deep states to observe my daily frustrations...
Donald Trump ordered the execution of more than 30,000 Gazan children because in his first mandate I dared post a tweet on his account explaining, a few days after his actions towards Netanyhau to prevent Palestinian US House Representative Tlaib from entering the west bank because she was a "terrorist" full of hate, were unconstitutional and impeachable... Freedom of movement is something the President of the former United States had the obligation to protect for all US Citizens. Donald is a pig of a coward and a hypocrite.
Naturally, now if you protect enshrined individual Constitutional Rights that do not align with neo-christian feminist zionist collectivist visions, you are considered a woke, a leftist, a terrorist by educated personalities such a Pink Barbie Nazi Kristy Noem... who become the megaphone of the Imperial Princess of the White House of Orange...
Et voilà...
Okay. No one cares what you think...
Well said
The real question is will Tim Walz and Jacob Frey be reasonable?
The Minneapolis City Council is way more leftist than the Leftist Mayor Jacob Frey is. They have unpublished laws that prohibit the Minneapolis police from cooperating with Immigration enforcement. The fact that these city laws are not publicly accessible, is extremely troubling and legally are a huge problem for the city.
I'm also not sure that Tim Walz wants the story to return back to his massive failure allowing one of the largest fraud scandal to occur under his watch. He can't even blame the Republicans, because there aren't any Republicans in office outside the legislature. 100% DFL (Democrat) and 0% Republican in state offices and also the city of Minneapolis 99% DFL and 1% Socialist on the council.
Federal enforcement of immigration is the law and take prescience over any state and city laws. ICE does have legal standing to enforce these laws. This does not condone their actions.
Personally I feel that ICE was provoked into reacting to sanctuary cities by several democrat dominated cities. They finally got what they were aiming for which is a confrontation. I'm not sure that Tim Walz and Jacob Frey be reasonable and I'm not sure that Trump will back down. Perhaps Trump will appear to back down for a moment, but it would probably just be a regrouping and reorganization.
The reality is that the goals of sanctuary cities are not sustainable. Eventually the issue will be dealt with and unfortunately it will not be pretty. I prefer the partied being reasonable and having the Congress and Senate step up to the plate to fix the current problems with legal immigration and to incentivize legal immigration while de-incentivizing illegal immigration.
The goals of people from the popular class and lower-middle and middle-middle classes was to maintain as best as possible their standard of living with a Federal government which became a puppet of modern economic and money theory promulgated by the reagan libertarians such as Greenspan. Both parties leadership have promoted and facilitated, in their own way, the importation of slave labor from countries where people had nothing to lose the same as they killed local american economies by exporting manufacturing. This was meant principally to help businesses (the gop goal) and increase electorate base ( the dems). But the local population which first resisted, finally adapted by integrated the new model of financial bubbles and accepted in the majority illegal immigrants which served the purpose of local cheap labor. This complemented the macro economic supply imported from china and other low cost global slave states. The problem here is that both walz and orange are the same. They`re the same leadership, the same long term feminist view of collectivism with collective only rights for 80% of the population, and individual rights as privileges for the 20% of essentials... Sure we all have to work together... sure...
This is about demonrats opening the border per George Soros' will and ignoring the rule of law.
Now they are inciting insurrection against the federal government whom is legally and lawfully trying to fulfill its obligation to the people.
The federal law enforcement is trying to uphold the will of the people despite the actions of the minority who are angry they lost the election. The mandate is to close the border, deport illegals, reduce the fraud waste and abuse and the size of government.
Neutral...hilarious.
Do you get paid more to lie and smear Trump than to report the actual facts and circumstances without your biased opinion or the biased opinions of leftists rags like the NYTimes, WAPO and The Atlantic?
After years of failed predictions and doom fortune telling it would make sense for the failures to stop.
But nope, they keep going on spewing lies and bullshit as though they have some supernatural ability to read minds, know thoughts and predict the future...