ICE Agents Flouted DHS Policies That Could Have Prevented Renee Good's Death
DHS tells officers to use "de-escalation tactics," employ "a verbal warning" instead of force when feasible, and avoid "placing themselves in positions" that trigger the use of deadly force.
When Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent Jonathan Ross approached Renee Good's Honda Pilot at 9:35 a.m. on Wednesday, January 7, his cellphone video of the encounter shows, she was smiling at him. "That's fine, dude," Good assured Ross from the driver's seat, apparently referring to the fact that he was recording her. "I'm not mad at you." Within two minutes, Ross had fatally shot Good. "Fucking bitch," he said as the unguided SUV careened down the street before crashing into a parked car.
The controversy over that shooting has focused mainly on the question of whether it was legally justified, which depends on whether Ross reasonably believed, given "the totality of the circumstances," that the use of deadly force was necessary to protect himself, his colleagues, or the general public from the threat Good allegedly posed as she began to drive away. But the swift escalation from a calm interaction to lethal gunfire also raises questions about how Ross and the other ICE agents at the scene handled the encounter before he killed Good—in particular, whether they followed policies and practices aimed at avoiding such outcomes.
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which includes ICE, emphasizes that its employees "may use force only when no reasonably effective, safe, and feasible alternative appears to exist and may use only the level of force that is objectively reasonable in light of the facts and circumstances confronting [the officer] at the time force is applied." Because "respect for human life" is a guiding principle, the DHS policy says, officers should be "proficient in a variety of techniques that could aid them in appropriately resolving an encounter," including "de-escalation tactics." De-escalation, DHS explains, is "the use of communication or other techniques during an encounter to stabilize, slow, or reduce the intensity of a potentially violent situation without using physical force, or with a reduction in force."
There is little evidence that Ross or his colleagues took that guidance to heart. The problem they initially confronted was not complicated: Good had positioned her car sideways on Portland Avenue, partly blocking the one-way street and forcing motorists to drive around her. "We stopped to support our neighbors," Good's wife later told Minnesota Public Radio. "We had whistles. They [the ICE agents] had guns."
The orange whistles to which she referred, one of which can be seen around her neck in Ross' video, are a favorite tool of anti-ICE protesters in Minneapolis, who blow them when they see ICE agents in action. Antonio M. Romanucci, a lawyer for Good's family, told The New York Times that Good and her wife had just dropped Good's son off at school and were driving home when they saw ICE agents and decided to stop.
"That was something that was happening very close to where they live," Romanucci said. "And just like anybody else who lives in the neighborhood, if there's activity in the neighborhood, they're going to be asking what's going on." Although Romanucci declined to comment on Good's prior activism, her wife's whistle, her wife's comments in Ross' video, and a message that Good shared with parents at her son's school indicate that the couple, who moved to Minneapolis last March, had been involved in anti-ICE protests for a while.
Good stopped near several unmarked ICE vehicles and had been there a few minutes when ICE agents first approached her. A witness reported that one of the agents initially told Good to drive away, which would have been a straightforward and peaceful way to resolve the situation. But another agent took a more aggressive approach. "Get out of the car," he told Good. "Get out of the car. Get out of the fucking car. Get out of the car."
Immediately after those rapid-fire commands, bystander video shows, that agent grabbed the handle of the front driver's side door and reached into the car. At that point, the car backed up a bit and then started moving forward, the front wheels turned to the right—away from the ICE agents. "Drive, baby, drive," said Good's wife, who was standing outside the car. Ross, who initially was standing near the SUV's left headlight but quickly moved out of its path, responded by firing three shots into the car, one through the lower left corner of the windshield and two through the front driver's side window.
According to DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, President Donald Trump, and Vice President J.D. Vance, all of those shots were fired in self-defense. Whether or not you agree, it is easy to imagine an alternative scenario in which Good would still be alive. If the agents had simply allowed her to leave, which would have addressed the problem that provoked their intervention, the threat that Ross perceived never would have arisen. Instead, the ICE agents seemed determined to forcibly remove Good from the car and arrest her, which presumably was the outcome that Good tried to avoid by driving away.
"When feasible, prior to the application of force, [officers] must attempt to identify themselves and issue a verbal warning to comply with [their] instructions," the DHS policy says. In this case, the ICE agent who grabbed Good's car did not identify himself. And while he did issue commands that might qualify as "a verbal warning," he immediately resorted to the use of force without giving Good a reasonable chance to comply.
In these circumstances, it was surely unwise for Good to react the way she did. And if her car "clipped" Ross (as the New York Post describes it) before he got out of the way, her recklessness demonstrably endangered him. But whether you view his reaction as justified self-defense or angry retaliation, all of this could have been avoided if the ICE agents had kept their cool.
It also could have been avoided if Ross had not carelessly positioned himself in front of Good's car, which was contrary to DHS policy as well as standard police training. DHS warns that officers should "avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force."
That is not just good practical advice. It can figure in the legal analysis of whether a particular use of force was consistent with the Fourth Amendment.
Last year in Barnes v. Felix, the Supreme Court emphasized that a court assessing the use of deadly force "must consider all the relevant circumstances, including facts and events leading up to the climactic moment." That case involved a Texas police officer who stopped a car for suspected toll violations. After endangering himself by jumping on the car as it began to move again, he addressed the resulting hazard by shooting the driver dead. The justices unanimously rejected the Fourth Amendment test applied by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, which focused on "the moment of the threat" to the officer without considering how he ended up in that situation.
The Supreme Court did not decide whether the officer's reckless behavior made his use of deadly force unconstitutional, instead instructing the 5th Circuit to reconsider that question under the proper Fourth Amendment test. But even if Ross' carelessness does not defeat his self-defense claim, the fact that he fired at least two shots when he was no longer in the path of Good's car complicates the analysis. So does the fact that shooting Good did not stop the car but instead increased the danger it posed by killing the person who was controlling it.
In general, DHS says, officers "may use deadly force only when necessary, that is when the [officer] has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the [officer] or to another person." And in situations like the one that Ross faced, officers "are prohibited from discharging firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, aircraft, or other conveyance unless the use of deadly force against the operator is justified under the standards articulated elsewhere in this policy." They "must take into consideration the hazards that may be posed to law enforcement and innocent bystanders by an out-of-control conveyance" before "using deadly force under these circumstances."
Based on the evidence so far, there is reason to doubt that Ross followed these rules. But however you assess his decision to fire his weapon, it seems clear that his conduct prior to the shooting, coupled with his colleague's hot-headedness, led to a fatal outcome that easily could have been avoided.
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"If the agents had simply allowed her to leave, which would have addressed the problem that provoked their intervention, the threat that Ross perceived never would have arisen."
I've become convinced that Jacob Sullum isn't just a propagandist, but rather writes dishonesty like the above because he is genuinely evil and enjoys demagoguery.
Also, remember all of Reason's concern when a non-threatening and unarmed Ashley Babbit took a bullet to the head. If only she'd tried to run the Hill Police over instead.
At this point I can't disagree. He is well past the point of being a simple propagandist fudging details while also being insulated in his ideological bubble. The crafting of dishonest narratives and reporting completely inverted from reality represents evil motives.
Sullum will ultimately belong in prison.
JS;dr. I was convinced of that a while back.
If you just let all criminals leave, crime would cease.
They will never apply agency to the criminals for the situations the criminals cause.
How very fascist of you. A lowest level misdemeanor is worthy of an extreme show of lethal violence. Yes. Let her go and you can always arrest her later in a calmer situation.
":"A lowest level misdemeanor is worthy of an extreme show of lethal violence.""
It's not, which is why it's stupid to resist the arrest. She could have complied, get cuffed, process, released, charges probably would have been drop. She would be free and alive today. But she went with drive baby drive instead.
Evading arrest is a felony. Obstructing law enforcement is a felony. Failure to obey commands from law enforcement is a modemenanor possibly a felony depending on the circumstances. That's before you get into the assault with the vehicle, whether uninteional or not.
You are very obviously a troll "Molly". I recommend everyone here ignore this person going forward. Don't worry they will eventually just go away. Do not respond to ANY of its obviously troll posts going forward.
A low level misdemeanor? Like ‘parading’?
You’re such a lying hypocrite faggot Tony,
I've become convinced that Jacob Sullum isn't just a propagandist, but rather writes dishonesty like the above because he is genuinely evil and enjoys demagoguery.
I used to entertain the notion that Reason's stories are all AI generated and that all the Editors are just meatspace placeholders.
Now I think I was too optimistic.
Either way, the longer it goes on the more indistinguishable it becomes from conventional notions of zombies or ghouls motivated by some unseen shaman, demonic possession, cosmic rays, or ground water contamination.
ML, Sullum is mentally ill. He suffers from a most intense hate of Donald Trump. He may not be responsible for his actions or writings, he is so far gone. Feel sorry for him. Pray he gets the help he so desperately needs.
Sullum it a TDS-addled lying pile of steaming shit who deserves to be ass-reamed with a barb-wire-wrapped baseball bat.
"The View" is far more honest than this asswipe will ever achieve.
>DHS tells officers to use "de-escalation tactics," employ "a verbal warning" instead of force when feasible, and avoid "placing themselves in positions" that trigger the use of deadly force.
1. The officer was passing in front of the car. When he did that she tried to run him over. We've seen the video Jacob. The counter-narrative is out there.
2. What directions did Good's organization give her? They were directions *TO ESCALATE* the situation, countering any attempts by DHS to de-escalate.
3. The other officers did all that and she refused to comply. So they moved to arrest her and she escalated the situation further.
4. Its kinda sad - even the mainstream media has acknowledged her fault in this and walked away from her. You're not getting your 'crisis point' and you're not getting your 'mediagenic martyrs' because you don't have control of the narrative - we get to see more than you want us to see.
It's like he's auditioning for Biden's short-lived Ministry of Disinformation. Holy fuck! 1984 wasn't meant to be an instruction book and I sure as hell didn't expect Reason to turn full Orwellian.
1. The officer was passing in front of the car. When he did that she tried to run him over. We've seen the video Jacob. The counter-narrative is out there.
Jacob is both deliberately misinterpreting this statement and contradicting his own/previous narrative.
There is no problem with officers walking in front of cars stopped at a crosswalk or sitting in a parking lot. You *could* take the DHS's recommendations to this level, and that is what Sullum is trying to do, but that would make you a retard.
The recommendation is, e.g., don't sneak up behind someone who isn't under arrest, give them reason to fear for their own lives and defend you by attacking themselves... don't jump out in front of a rolling vehicle and tell them if they don't stop, you'll shoot them. Essentially exploiting the same decision-making/reaction time lag that Sullum and others are trying to levy against Ross by parsing shots 2 and 3 from 1.
*If* Good was there to flip them the bird and drive away peacefully, then there's no reason for Ross *not* to be in front of the car. She and it are not a threat. Even then, hitting a/the pedestrian rather than shouting "I'm drivin' he-yaw!" like a proper agitator in such a situation is still a crime and recommendations or guidelines don't exempt it.
The ICE officer was hit by the car and suffered injuries that sent him to the hospital with internal bleeding.
Sullum is a POS.
Exactly! Sullum wants to try to prove to his readers his preconceived position using sophistry. But he's too dumb to realize we've also seen the videos and it's a reasonable position to believe the ICE agent thought the woman was trying to run him over even if it's possible she was just recklessly trying to leave and was so fired up she ran her car into him. Yes it was probably not going to kill him, but in the moment he had no idea what was going to happen and he reacted to try to stop her from running him over. Could it have been avoided (her death), yes but that's Monday morning quarterbacking and he had milliseconds to make a choice.
Sullum! The officers *told her to leave*. She refused to do so. So they went to arrest her.
FFS man.
Ah, but when she did try to leave they murdered her. Dead if she does, dead if she does not.
Alive if she had complied and been taken into custody. You don't get to "try to leave" when you're being arrested.
They told her to leave, and when she didn't, they ordered her to get out of the car.
When a cop reaches inside your car to stop you from operating it, you cannot at that point say "well she was just trying to leave". She can't.
But you're a liar, what can one expect.
""Dead if she does, dead if she does not.""
We know the second because it's hindsight. We do not know the first. It's smarter to take your chances with the first. You are more likely to have a story to tell your grandkids.
She drove her car at an officer! What part of this are you not getting?
As usual, everything you say is utter bullshit. You will never give up the con.
Democrat activists can do no wrong and are always the victim.
Just because you choose to feign ignorance doesn't mean reality will conform to your preferred false narratives.
I'm truly shocked that the coverage of this single incident continues to get worse and become more divorced from the evidence every day at Reason.
Sullum would have been at home writing for Pravda during the Soviet era.
JS;dr
JS; terrorist sympathizer
Just ridiculous. the chutzpah of this guy.
Reason, the narrative on the MN federal prosecutors 'quitting' is falling apart.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/01/update-pam-bondi-says-minnesota-prosecutors-didnt-quit/
Bondi fired them, they did not quit.
>So they came and said, “We want to resign, but we want to use our annual leave up until April,” meaning they wanted the taxpayers to pay for them to go on vacation because they decided they didn’t want to support law enforcement.
""officers to use "de-escalation tactics,""
De-escalation does not apply to arrests. They can escalate if you resist. During an arrest the more you resist, the more they can escalate.
"may use force only when no reasonably effective, safe, and feasible alternative appears to exist and may use only the level of force that is objectively reasonable in light of the facts and circumstances confronting [the officer] at the time force is applied."
If only the protestors followed this advice, rather than throwing stones and driving their cars towards the ICE agents.
Such biased reporting.
If Good was murdered by a criminal illegal alien Reason would ignore it. Instead they are outraged against valid self defense and choose to ignore all known facts.
This is getting embarrassing.
Jonathan Ross didn’t place himself in front of Good’s vehicle. From his cell phone footage, you can see Good’s wife trying to open the passenger door when Good backs the car up swinging the front of the car towards Ross. She then slams it into drive, the wheels spin and you hear him being hit.
It's incredible what people can imagine they see when their overlords demand it.
Every word of that description is contradicted by the video.
^delusional terrorist sympathizer
Yep. She either tried to kill him, or it was a very bad time for her to be a shitty driver.
Either way, the situation resolved itself, correctly.
Jacob, Renee's actions got her killed, not the officers.
Wow, Reason reaches a new low, just let the criminals leave...how embarrassing.
Can Reason at least be intellectually honest? As if their issue with ICE is a list of broken technicalities.
As if the DHS violations never ocurred, all would be well.
No. Reason's issue with ICE is that ICE exists.
Reason wants open borders.
Which is fine, a defensible position. However. Where we are now is like spouses arguing about the TV remote. But the real issue being they want a divorce cause they hate each other. Let's get to the real point and past the side shows.
There's nothing ICE can do to please Reason except going away.
If going to plead a case, Reason, start there, please?
"The criminal could have been saved if only the offender behaved or the police submitted to the criminal."
We got it Jake. Do you really enjoy writing illogical drivel? If you want to make immigration open, make a real argument for that. until them. FO.
Police need to learn (and we need to insist) that not every perceived crime justifies any level of violence to apprehend the person immediately. If the LEOs know who the person is, they an let them go and arrest them later, or better yet allow them to turn themselves in.
Good choice of lede photo- the videos (plural) show Ross leaning in front of that big, spring-mounted rear view mirror to fire the first shot and being shoved by it as it slid by his torso at a few feet per second.
Kristi Noem and Bari Weiss gained notoriety at the expense of credibility by reporting the bruise that appeared the next day as Ross suffering " internal bleeding to the torso", although that was not reported by the hospital; that examined him immediately after he killed Cook.
Cue usual Katharine Leavitt wannabes.
Not saying the report is correct or not, but unless the patient signed a release of information that covers it, the hospital cannot report it.
Public Entelectual; delusional terrorist sympathizer
If you are ok with this, you are a sick fuck. Arresting US citizens on the way to a dr appointment, arresting people who don't have documents on them (not a legal requirement for citizens). There are about 3x the number of ICE thugs in Minneapolis than there are Minneapolis police.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/gallery/what-the-federal-invasion-of-minneapolis-looks-like-on-the-ground-photos
What US citizen was deported on their way to a dentist appointment? Why haven't an ICE agent asked me or any of my nonwhite social circle to produce IDs? Sigh
Yeah, there is a legion of ICE in MN, because the local police won't protect them. The state is also fraud central.
Everything you said is complete bullshit. And it isn’t 3x the number of local PD, it’s 5x. You can’t even get that straight,
Tony, I strongly urge you to emulate the behavior of these idiots and obstruct ICE. When they start giving you commands, just spout the bullshit you spout here and don’t do as you’re told. Then report back with your results.
""Then report back with your results.""
Worst project manager ever.
She was ordered to leave. She didn't. Then one of the officers reached into the car to stop her. At THAT point, any sudden acceleration to another human being cannot be interpreted as anything other than reckless.
Her smiling is was not an gesture of kindness or humanity. She was being arrogant and contemptuous. This was game to her and her wife, who later wondered in agony "you used real bullets?" The media and the democrat party pushed the anti fascist fantasy roleplay deep into the addled minds of these liberal women, and they paid the price.
He never stood directly in front of the car. He got clipped by the left headlight. You can see it in his cellphone perspective. Imagine two kids on a bike positioned where the cops were. And then "drive baby drive". I don't want to hear this "but the kids shouldn't have been there though".
Jacob points to nonbinding guidelines as bible in a total vacuum. ICE agents have been assaulted and shot at for the better part of last year. They receive no assistance from local police whatsoever. Why shouldn't they assume the worst when a knucklehead blocks the road? They're targets. This wasn't some traffic stop, it was a developing situation that could turn deadly.
"Well he wasn't supposed to reach into the car because that's safe for him and the driver" Um when you're possibly surrounded by people who cheered Charlie Kirk's death, you have to be more proactive. They want you dead.
Libertarians believe in the rule of law, and personal responsibility.
You cant have a society where mental children (that are adult aged) get to have tantrums and then get mad when they pay the price.
She did illegal shit, she blocked the road with her car, she didnt listen, she resisted arrest in a fashion that put multiple people at risk of being maimed or dying, and she caught a bullet in exchange.
Are we really going to oppose 'the state' because its the state, in a case where the private citizen literally did at least 5 things completely in the wrong, including almost running over and driving her car into an officer?
It's Friday night and as usual, Reasonistas leave us with a cascade of tiresome propaganda outbursts, hoping to sustain the phony outrage du jour for the weekend. By now they are probably heading out to one of those swank DC cocktail parties to preen over how with each passing day they are forcing libertarians to side with the icky Trump administration (the State, God forbid!), satisfied their elite handlers will always taylor the next outrage within the desired framework. It can't work, for we've seen the ooze coming from them in real time, and we have the receipts. But for them the cocktails blur the details, and the smiles in the room are real.
They never learn.
Jacob, you run the two-slit experiment, open Schrödinger's Feminist box, enough times and eventually you're going to get a dead white woman. Opening the box again doesn't bring her back to life. That waveform has already collapsed. At best all it does is perturb the probabilities that the next time you open it up, you'll get another dead white woman. I don't make the rules, that's just how The Universe(s) works. Don't want women to die from their quantum superposition of infinitely empowered and completely blameless? Stop fucking with their feminist boxes.
“Flouted? What are you talking about? I never sucked jizz out of anybody’s ass before…,,,. with a straw.”
“I believe that’s called felching, Mr cook. Not that I’d know….”
Haha. Long live Bad Santa.
I think ICE Watch is glad she is dead. They desperately needed a martyr. ICE just so happened to cooperate on that particular day to give them what they had been hoping for.
""They desperately needed a martyr.""
She is not martyr status, will never be.
Remember when Obama said his DOJ was going to investigate the Michael Brown shooting? That didn't turn out the way activists were hoping.
""Based on this investigation, the Department has concluded that Darren Wilson’s actions do not constitute prosecutable violations under the applicable federal criminal civil rights statute, 18 U.S.C. § 242, which prohibits uses of deadly force that are “objectively unreasonable,” as defined by the United States Supreme Court. The evidence, when viewed as a whole, does not support the conclusion that Wilson’s uses of deadly force were “objectively unreasonable” under the Supreme Court’s definition. Accordingly, under the governing federal law and relevant standards set forth in the USAM, it is not appropriate to present this matter to a federal grand jury for indictment, and it should therefore be closed without prosecution.""
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf
I think you underestimate how little the activists need for a martyr. They just need a story they can use to incite rage in other activists. The degree of wrongdoing on any particular parties part is irrelevant. When the cop is officially not charged, or if he is and when he is acquitted that is just another story to incite more rage in other activists.
Yes they need one. That I do not underestimate. But Good is not going to be it.
Again, I am willing to be the driver and recreate the video for all the delusional terrorist sympathizers here. Please use your training to de-escalate the situtation Sullum.
When Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent Jonathan Ross approached Renee Good's Honda Pilot at 9:35 a.m. on Wednesday, January 7, his cellphone video of the encounter shows, she was smiling at him. "That's fine, dude," Good assured Ross from the driver's seat, apparently referring to the fact that he was recording her. "I'm not mad at you." Within two minutes, Ross had fatally shot Good. "Fucking bitch," he said as the unguided SUV careened down the street before crashing into a parked car.
It's revealing Sullum details every aspect of the encounter negative to the officer, but intentionally omits every negative aspect from Good. As far as we can tell from this description the officer approached her for an unknown reason rather than because she intentionally stopped her car in the roadway to prevent his movement. Imagine an activist pulling up and blocking Sullum's driveway in the morning and when Sullum asked him to move he just smiled and said "that's ok". Would the "smile" become a smirk?
He details the "fucking bitch" but omits the officer said it because she hit him with her fucking car.
It's just bizarre how biased these articles are.