When Originalism Undermines Trump
From birthright citizenship to tariffs, many of the president’s key policies run counter to the Constitution’s original meaning.
If you describe yourself as a liberal or a progressive, that probably means you have a low opinion of originalism, the school of constitutional thought that is closely identified with the conservative legal movement. The prominent liberal law professor Erwin Chemerinsky, for instance, undoubtedly spoke for many when he denounced originalism as a "dangerous fallacy" that only serves to mask results-oriented judging by the right. "Originalist justices pretend to be doing something different," Chemerinsky has argued, "but they are just as likely to impose their values and views as non-originalist ones."
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However, like it or not, originalism is currently the theory to beat in constitutional cases at the U.S. Supreme Court, which is composed of four self-described originalists (Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett), plus two others (Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito), who will sign on to ostensibly originalist decisions while disavowing the label for themselves.
In other words, there are practical reasons for liberals to develop or maintain some fluency in originalism, given the theory's high value these days at SCOTUS.
But might there also be some philosophical reasons for liberals to give originalism a chance?
Here's one way to think about it. The original meaning of many constitutional provisions runs counter to the political agenda of President Donald Trump. So why would liberals want to abandon the historical meaning of those provisions in the face of Trump's modern misreading of those provisions?
Or, if you prefer to phrase it more tactically: Why would liberals want to preemptively surrender a portion of the legal battlefield on which the anti-Trump forces hold an advantage?
Take the looming Supreme Court showdown over Trump's executive order purporting to abolish the constitutional guarantee of birthright citizenship for millions of U.S.-born children.
Originalism undermines Trump's position in the birthright citizenship case because the text, history, and original public meaning of the 14th Amendment all point in the opposite direction from Trump's executive order. If you want to stop Trump's illegal decree from going into effect, originalism may help you do it.
Originalism also undermines Trump's position in the tariffs case. Why? Because the framers and ratifiers of the original Constitution placed great weight on the importance of dividing federal power among three separate branches of government.
Yet Trump seeks judicial permission in the tariffs case to unilaterally wield a type of power that the Constitution specifically assigned to the legislative branch, not to the executive. An originalist view of the constitutional authority over tariffs would be fatal to Trump's signature policy.
Of course, all this talk about Trump losing on originalist grounds assumes that the Supreme Court's originalists will practice what they preach. Chemerinsky, the liberal law professor, would call that assumption foolish. He would tell you that those justices will just warp the constitutional text in Trump's favor.
If the main storyline of the current Supreme Court term is the fight over executive power, a secondary storyline centers on the question of whether the Court's conservative justices will emerge with their credibility diminished or enhanced.
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"Yet Trump seeks judicial permission in the tariffs case to unilaterally wield a type of power that the Constitution specifically assigned to the legislative branch, not to the executive. An originalist view of the constitutional authority over tariffs would be fatal to Trump's signature policy."
Which, if memory serves, was something brought up when the legislation giving the executive authority to set tariffs was proposed, but those concerns were ignored for utilitarian expediency. Now the same people who argued for those powers are throwing a fit because a president they disapprove of is using them in ways they do not like.
Might have helped being principled in the first place.
Might have helped being principled in the first place.
Oh, come on. Obviously, the Founding Father's meant to include "penaltaxes" and protections for genderfluid women with penises when they were writing the Declaration of Independence.
Suddenly, the constitution is no longer a “living document “.
Worse. A patently false notion of citizenship that directly contradicts the plain text of the original census and 3/5ths Compromise (setting aside all the other notions of citizenship established around the world contemporaneously) is the original intent of the dead letter. Don't believe your lying eyes.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."
Oh bullshit. The US adopted the common law from England and brought the jus soli principle with it. Wong Kim Ark case lays out the full history and nobody disputes the accuracy of it. Don't confuse children of slaves not getting birthright citizenship in the early years of the republic - its not because they weren't born here. It's because they weren't considered people and instead property to be bought and sold and treated like any other commodity. The 14th amendment's language is crystal clear.
Trump and MAGA can get fucked on this topic. Or change the constitution to fit your policy preferences. Good luck.
Yeap. Wrong and not an attorney.
I DECLARE FALSEHOOD! That is what you sound like.
Ya know, it might be helpful to discussion threads to say something more profound.
As the ol' legal maxim goes, I am rubber and you are glue.
Little children can finish the rest. Which would put them on par with your dazzling intellect.
Oh hush it, you Starbucks barista. You damn well know that was t the original intent of those who wrote the 14th Amendment and those who brought up Wong Kim Ark. the former went to pains to state that this was not for those not subject to the United States, including Indians not taxed. The latter was brought up by someone here legally, not illegally. Stop lying and obfuscating.
“It’s amazing how much leftist discourse pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.”
- @MillennialWoes
Is this a legal argument?
Wong clearly only applies to the children of legal permanent residents. Technically it only applies to people who are subjects of the Emporer of China. It supports Trump's claim.
Trump is trying to amend the Constitution by executive order. If he gets away with it then a future Democratic President can with the stroke of a pen override the Constitution and Statutory Law and make every illegal immigrant a US Citizen.
Bigots like you do need to be replaced.
"patently false notion of citizenship "
It is the bigots like you who are pushing falsehoods. The US has had birthright citizenship since 1776. It just didn't initially apply to people considered sub human by the racists in charge.
The Constitution was explictily altered [that is, an amendment was made] to expand citizenship rights to many people not included originally. This is not 'a reinterpretation', this is 'an actual change to the text'.
When Originalism Undermines Trump
From birthright citizenship
The *original* Constitution excluded The. Native. Americans *and* specifically apportioned 3/5ths of a vote to slaves no matter where they were born.
You're fucking dishonest moron to pretend otherwise.
Similarly, unless the US Gov't was going to endlessly expand territory (maybe even regardless of this), The Homestead Acts were eventually going to run out of land and, again originally, as documented, specifically excluded Native Americans and Immigrants.
So, again, if you were even the dimmest bit aware of history, had even the barest scruples, and even a faint glimmer of intellectual capacity to understand the full weight of "borders are just abstract constructs"; that the government can no more seize taxes to hand out welfare to everyone than it can to seize the land and hand out homesteads to everyone; you'd realize the abjectly anti-libertarian and fundamental dishonesty of your position.
Instead, you intentionally persist in your dishonest retardation.
In 1923 Congress passed the American Indian Citizenship Act. Prior to this the 14th Amendment was not considered to apply to American Indians because the government signed treaties with tribes, something they did with foreign states.
This bill clarified the 14th Amendment and another bill could further define "under the jurisdiction" to mean people born in the US of citizens and those with permanent resident status. Not many Americans accept that those born to tourists, H1B visa holders, or illegal immigrants should be citizens and allow their parents residence rights under family immigration.
Not under the jurisdiction means that you can not be sued or charged with crimes.
ICE can be abolished.
Damon remains consistently retarded. Trying to turn originalism into leftist ideology. A general tactic of the left to subvert words and ideology.
See birthright citizenship. Where even the drafted stated what under jurisdiction meant. A term used just years prior to literally mean allegiance to the US and not a foreign nation.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/12/08/senator-who-helped-write-birthright-citizenship-clause-specifically-said-it-doesnt-include-aliens/
The originalist claim is what was understood during drafting. We have the congressional records. Instead Damon wants us to think original intent means 30 years after with a new scotus interpretation. An interpretation that included legal residents, not illegal.
What, leftists lie? I'm shocked to see such a thing in this establishment.
Yes the congressional records; where racist senators complained that the language chosen for the 14th would let any chinamen or gypsy have a child here and the child would be a citizen.
And they kept the language.
The same racists today make the same complaints bout anchor babies and mexicans. And yet, their children are still citizens and have been seen as such since before any of us commenting were born.
Sometimes racist bigots lose. See e.g, the Civil War.
Your side did indeed lose that war.
Okay slavery supporter.
Is this a legal argument? Seems like emotional ignorance of an activist.
Meanwhile your party continues to this day to promote segregation. Lol.
Always amazed how someone claiming to be a lawyer has zero logic skills. The view is hold isnt based on race, yet you are forced to conclude it is. Because once again... youre not a lawyer.
LMAO ... "Original-ism undermines Trump's position in the birthright citizenship case because ... "the text, (Damon Root Link) ?history?, and (Damon Root Link) ?original *public* meaning?"
...because of Damon Root & public delusional BS deception?
Why don't you actually link to *original* meaning like the federalist papers or the CRA 1866? Instead of preaching nothing but lies, scams, deception and pure-BS?
Root has exclusive mystical insight into original intent so he can link to no greater authority than himself. And if the Court varies from his interpretations he has pre determined that the majority are hypocritical lying sacks of shit. I've read pundits on both sides of this issue and I'm left with the conclusion that there is no slam dunk answer to the question. Or at the very least there is plenty of wiggle room to support a preferred outcome.
Trump *is* the Constitution and SCOTUS is voting accordingly. If you don't believe that, you have TDS. As do all of those past justices whose precedents the current justices are overturning.
Leftard Self-Projection 101.
Tell us again who *is* the "New Deal" Constitution re-writers?
All you leftards do is Self-Project. Day in and Day out.
Poor maddow watching shrike. Scream no kings again.
Is this like how Fauci *is* the science?
Trump is not much different than other presidents in terms of overall respecting the Constitution.
But on the birthright citizenship issue, he is absolutely right. The original meaning did not include children of tourists/sojourners, for example. It did not include those who were subject to a foreign power. Only those who had left behind foreign allegiances by lawfully settling here were subject to jurisdiction in this sense.
"The original meaning did not include children of tourists/sojourners"
Liar. Birthright citizenship is based on English Common Law dating to the Middle Ages and confirmed by a 1608 court decision.
LMAO.... Surely civil-war amendments 1868 were from English Common Law of the 1600s.
I guess they just forgot to add it for 250-years. You leftarded are such a running joke.
Why that is almost as humorous as the party-of-slavery insisting they had any part in creating the 14A.
When you wrote "Of course, all this talk about Trump losing on originalist grounds assumes that the Supreme Court's originalists will practice what they preach”, I have to agree. Originalists have conveniently ignored the original text when it suited their purposes in the past.
The question I have is whether the Court majority really wants to allow the executive branch to clearly usurp Congressional authority as much as it wants.
Ironically the only ones bringing up the original records on the 14a are supporting trumps argument. Including liberal legal professors.
Good Golly Miss Molly! 99.99% of the government runs counter to the Constitution’s original meaning!
But the Supreme Court has amended the Constitution by reinterpretation to many times that its current meaning has almost no relationship with the original meaning. Why should Trump be the first President to not take a stab at reinterpreting the Constitution?
This article could have been a great libertarian teaching moment, about a government of limited and enumerated powers. Instead it's just anti-Trump.
Fire KMW and MW.
Get out of DC and NYC.
Start publishing some libertarian content.
Tariffs being the most contradictory accusation.
The Constitution originally allocated Tariffs specifically to fund the National Government.
Entirely/exclusively of the later to come income tax.
It is baffling how much spin-it upside-down from reality the left indoctrinates.
I mean, yes, most of the govenrment runs counter to the constitution's original meaning, is that new to you?
Originalizm is a judicial concept that only emerges when SCOTUS wants to rule to giveRepublicans what they want. Otherwise it has no place.
Cases where originalizm would have had the case go the other way: presidental immunity, Trump disqualification, trump firing people, Trump cutting funding that Congress authorized, Muslim ban, and all the voter right act cases.
Just fuck right off, commietard.
STFU, no one here respects you or your retardation, you are wasting your time and ours
Damn you are stupid.
According to Molly, Presidents are not President of anything other than shining the shoes of the progressive liberal court justices.
Birthright Citizenship wasnt in the original constitution you dumbfvck, and the original meaning of the amendment was to guarantee rights to former slaves, not anchor babies and their extended family.
What a gawdawful moronic take
Irrelevant. Birthright citizenship was the rule in the US starting July 2, 1776.
If a member of the US house openly declared her loyalty to a foreign nation and pledged to use her political power to influence events there is she still subject to the jurisdiction of the United States or has she disavowed her loyalty to it?
Are we talking about Somalia, Ukraine or Israel? Hard to keep up with so many congresscritters declaring allegiance to foreign interests over America.
Dual nationality is legal in the US.
The original intent of "Birthright Citizenship" is not what the author pretends. The original intent contained exceptions and qualifying words that would not be there using the overly simplistic notion the author wants to believe. The original intent was to grant citizenship to former slaves born in the country. It was not extended to Native Americans until later.
The topic is more complex than the author pretends.
Liar. Birthright citizenship wasn't a statute it was English Common Law.
The courts seem to think otherwise, Damon.
Please stop doing the 'law professor' routine where you pretend the way you want the law to be is the way it is.
Originalism of the 14th supports Trump. People won't lose their citizenship if birthright is overturned. They'll be considered defacto citzens because at the time they became citizens birthright was the standard.
Yup, grandfathered for those here and those not yet, no more free lunch
Yes. Splitting babies and grandfathering is the only way out of this mess. Damon can trash Trump all he wants and claim that the law is established. But that is simply not the case. The Court has never confronted this issue head on and Trump is just forcing their hand. Really looking forward to oral arguments.
And when they're done with that they can define natural born citizen.
>>birthright citizenship to tariffs ... run counter to the Constitution’s original meaning.
dude it's irresponsible professionally to write that and accept money. if you want to post sarc-level legal interpretations do it for free thanks
Liberals and conservatives alike should support originalism because a Constitution without originalism is not a constitution. There are good and sufficient reasons to believe that a strong Constitution benefits The People by preventing ANY group from capturing government and using its authority to impose their personal preferences on anyone. Although this may prevent liberals from imposing socialism on everyone, it may also prevent conservatives from imposing a central religious and moral authority on gays, women and liberal-leaning religious groups. The problem here is not that liberals are giving up a portion of the legal battlefield, the problem here is that they only like the Constitution when it supports their own agenda, but want it to be a "living document" when it does NOT support their agenda. Original intent is the ONLY way to limit government authority from abuse by all factions. It is disingenuous to label sincere original intentists as "conservative" in the current climate. Some of the current Supreme Court Justices may indeed be using original intent only when it helps to further their own agenda, but this is not a valid argument against originalism!
The 14th Amendment itself wiped out original intent. It specifically reserves to Congress the right to statutorily define birthright citizenship for newborns who are subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
If the pre-CIvil War Constitution was our "First Republic" (an arguable claim), then the Civil War Amendments delivered us into the "Second Republic". Originalists must choose which republic they prefer.
"It specifically reserves to Congress the right to statutorily define birthright citizenship for newborns who are subject to the jurisdiction of the USA."
Liar. The 14th Amendment ITSELF defines birthright citizenship. Not subject to the jurisdiction means that you can't be prosecuted or sued. Every illegal immigrant criminal would be released from prison and would not be able to be deported because they aren't subject to immigration law!!!
"With respect to alien enemies, no doubt has been intimated as to the federal authority over them; the constitution having expressly delegated to Congress the power to declare war against any nation, and of course to treat it and all its members as enemies. With respect to aliens, who are not enemies, but members of nations in peace and amity with the United States, the power assumed by the act of Congress, is denied to be constitutional" ~ James Madison.