The Far Right Is Powered by Left-Wing Illiberalism and Hypocrisy
The left has to accept that it shares blame for our current political mess.
The introduction of the "Groypers" into our national consciousness over the last six weeks has ignited curiosity about what is causing the evident moral and intellectual disintegration of American conservatism. As someone who has been covering this space for years, I do not believe it's possible to grasp what's happening on the right without accepting that the left has, for decades now, been on its own illiberal journey—because to a far greater extent than most observers would like to admit, the former phenomenon is a response to the latter.
If there's one thing that voters of President Donald Trump and reactionary online personalities alike have made clear, it's that they're frustrated by the eagerness of mainstream institutions to excuse left-wing overreach while treating every right-wing infraction as an existential menace to democracy. This has created a boy-who-cried-wolf problem where attempts to sound the alarm about serious threats to the rule of law during Trump's second term often provoke eyerolls or yawns.
We need to recognize that there's a natural tendency to overlook violations of norms and legal procedures by our own side while hyperfixating on our rivals' transgressions. Human beings are excellent at rationalizing breaches of etiquette and convincing ourselves that extraordinary measures are necessary when they benefit us. Departures from the rules of the game by allies are downplayed or dismissed, and in any individual case that may be defensible—but the cumulative effect is that those on the receiving end sooner or later conclude that playing by the rules is for suckers.
Republican claims of Democratic hypocrisy may sometimes be overblown, but they are decidedly not imagined. The activist left in particular is guilty of helping to create the conditions for our toxic political moment. Consider the following ways in which left-of-center politics have, over the last generation or two, effectively repudiated liberal values.
1. By Beginning From Collectivist—and Thus Inevitably Racialist—Rather Than Individualistic Assumptions
In a recent essay at The Argument, the liberal journalist Matt Yglesias makes a crucial observation: Critical race theory and related programs are not, as he once presumed, "natural extensions of basic liberal commitments to tolerance and human equality," analogous to the expansion of franchise rights to women in the early 20th century. Emphatically to the contrary, they are open rejections of philosophical liberalism, understood as "the view that the basic unit of moral concern is the individual; that institutions should be governed by general, neutral rules; and that rights and due process are core to justice."
Yglesias rightly notes that the identitarian approach introduced policies and practices into society that subject people to collective blame or confer on them collective benefits based on their demographic characteristics. Members of groups that were historically disadvantaged or oppressed receive better treatment than do members of historically privileged groups. Individual virtues, accomplishments, and abilities become less important than identitarian labels.
Such policies and practices tend to produce what is sometimes called "victimhood Olympics," or the habit of competitive jostling to show that your combination of identity markers (as a Hispanic lesbian with a medical disability, say) entitles you to a higher status than someone else's. This is what is meant by "intersectional" identity politics.
Unsurprisingly, one side effect of such a political approach is that those at the bottom of the victimhood totem pole—namely, straight white men—feel increasing resentment and rage over being denied respect and opportunities based on attributes outside their control. They correctly note that this flies in the face of the ethos of the Civil Rights Movement, which rather famously argued that people deserve to be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.
It has also more generally increased the salience of race and other tribal labels, training people to think of themselves as members of "affinity groups" whose interests they share and to whom they owe a sort of primary loyalty. No wonder we've seen a rise in white nationalist and Christian nationalist sentiments, with young conservatives in particular taking to complaining that mass immigration is diluting America's once-dominant Anglo-Protestant culture.
With all the attention lately being paid to the antisemitic influencer Nick Fuentes and his followers (those aforementioned "Groypers"), it may be tempting to think this is a problem of recent vintage. But social commentators have been warning for decades that policies such as affirmative action in hiring and practices such as militant speech policing would have exactly these sorts of predictable consequences.
"The new racism is reactive rather than residual, let alone resurgent," Christopher Lasch wrote in The Revolt of the Elites and the Betrayal of Democracy way back in 1995. "It is a response, however inappropriate and offensive, to a double standard of racial justice that strikes most Americans as unreasonable and unfair."
2. By Treating Progress as Zero-Sum
The liberal journalist Jerusalem Demsas (also at The Argument) has a recent essay on the "peasant logic" of zero-sum thinking: the idea that "there's only so much to go around. Only so many good jobs, decent homes, and slots in the social hierarchy. If someone else starts doing better, that's a threat—it means someone else (maybe you) is getting screwed."
Demsas describes this view as "the throughline of MAGA politics," and I can't say I disagree with her. But it's important to realize that left-wing activism has long made the same mistake. I recently had reason to revisit an interview I gave to The Ezra Klein Show a couple of years ago in which I tried to make this point:
There are ways in which our approach…to advocating for social change can make it more or less likely that the more radical elements of the New Right will be successful. So if we treat social change as zero-sum, if we act as if any advance toward justice for one group of people comes at the expense of another group, that is going to provoke backlash and that is going to empower the worst voices that we've been describing.
There is an alternative to that approach of social change as zero-sum. We can talk about it as positive-sum. And if you look at the ways that, for example, gay rights activists in the 1990s and early 2000s advocated for the changes that they were in favor of, they did it in an inclusive way. They did it by humanizing their cause. They did it by talking about equal rights under the law and liberal values—and in some cases, even appealing to conservative values, family formation, lifelong commitment.
They achieved an incredible feat in terms of, if you look at the polling data, how quickly public opinion changed on support for gay marriage….That is the kind of activism success story that there are going to be textbooks written about.
I think if we're being honest with ourselves, if we compare that to the kinds of activism in the gender politics space today or really any kind of social-justice space today, we find that they have adopted a very different approach to pushing for the things they believe in, which is much more militant and much more retributive. Not just "we want equal rights under the law," but "we're going to punish you if you do not line up behind our views." I think that is a huge mistake.
That approach is a mistake because it causes people to stop thinking in terms of equal rights and start thinking in terms of redistribution of scarce resources, where status and opportunity (as well as more tangible goods such as homes and jobs) are a fixed pie. And people operating from a scarcity mindset will resent rather than celebrate other people's gains.
A survey of Trump voters conducted just after the 2020 election found a shocking amount of agreement on issues related to cultural resentment, with some 89 percent of respondents believing that "Christianity is under attack in America today," 90 percent fretting that "Americans are losing faith in the ideas that make our country great," 92 percent saying that "the mainstream media today is just a part of the Democratic Party," and 87 percent worrying that "discrimination against whites will increase a lot in the next few years."
What unites these findings is that they all point to the sort of siege mentality that understandably appears in zero-sum contexts in which someone else seems to be in charge of who gets what.
3. By Being Willing To Employ State Power on Behalf of One Side on Contested Questions
One of my favorite ways to talk about liberalism is as an exercise of "mutual forbearance," where all sides forgo the temptation to use government power to force others to live the same way they do. This creates space in society for people to disagree on important questions of both taste (do you prefer living in a walkable urban environment or in a big house on a large plot of land?) and values (is it a morally good thing or a morally bad thing to have a lot of kids?), without needing to go to war over them.
In this view, the government's job is to protect basic rights and liberties, not to choose sides on contested questions by prescribing one way of life for all. It's supposed to be a dispassionate referee that ensures the rules of the game are applied equally to everyone; it's not supposed to tilt the playing field to produce outcomes desired by one team over another.
Yet the left has never been very comfortable with that bargain, and its willingness to employ the coercive power of the state to control various aspects of people's lives, against their will and for their own supposed good, has generated an enormous amount of acrimony toward "liberal" elites who are not, in fact, liberal at all in this sense of the word.
Anger over "nanny statism," or laws dictating what foods people can eat, what cars they can drive, and so on, has been around for decades. But revelations involving debanking and jawboning over the last 15 years proved that things were actually much more dire. I don't think people on the left of center appreciate just how much damage such efforts have done when it comes to eroding trust in our governing institutions across large swaths of the American public.
And there are many, many more examples of the left being willing to tilt the playing field on behalf of its own predilections: the repeated targeting of Christian hospitals for declining to perform abortions and Christian wedding vendors for declining to provide custom services for same-sex weddings; the military and State Department's embrace of rainbow flags and other controversial symbols of the progressive worldview; the use of civil rights "guidance" to impose left-wing dogmas on public schools and private businesses; the use of government grants and loans to prop up politically aligned groups and promote ideologically aligned causes. The list goes on.
In some cases, the Trump administration has used precisely the same tools Democrats were all too happy to wield a few years ago, but to accomplish different ends, and Democrats have suddenly cried foul. The point is that proponents of left-progressivism didn't just win the battle of ideas fair and square, as we're often told; they won in part by employing illiberal means that they immediately recognize as troubling when employed by their opponents.
While I'll be first, second, and third in line to decry the current president's shameless weaponization of our justice system, the left hasn't exactly covered itself in glory in its pursuit of charges against Trump since 2020. When the eminent Harvard law professor Jack Goldsmith is penning op-eds in The New York Times to warn that your prosecutions may have ominous consequences for the body politic, some introspection is probably in order.
4. By Abandoning Free Speech and Other Liberal Values
I'm strongly of the belief that some people deserve to be "canceled," inasmuch as private actors have every right to disassociate from people whose views or behavior they find abhorrent. The First Amendment protects our freedom to express ourselves without experiencing government censorship or retaliation; it doesn't give us a right to access someone else's platform or audience, and it certainly doesn't mean we won't face harsh criticism or even social ostracization as a result of our speech.
Nonetheless, even without involving state power, it is obviously possible to take things too far. When students shout down campus speakers or activists otherwise disrupt events to the point of obstructing people who want to hear a message (or gather for some other purpose) from being able to do so, their behavior may not technically qualify as violence or coercion, but it is indisputably hostile to liberal values. Likewise when it comes to some of the more egregious examples of out-of-control cancellation mobs we've seen in the last decade or so.
Private companies (unlike the state) are wholly within their rights when they take sides in the culture war. Yet they can't then be surprised when people come to see them as hostile combatants and treat them accordingly. When Amazon chooses to pull a book on a controversial topic by a conservative scholar, or when social media platforms mobilize in lockstep to block a damning news story about a Democratic candidate's son, they forfeit the trust and goodwill of a huge segment of the country. Their behavior, while legal, may still be tactically imprudent. Just look at what politicization of the public health field during COVID has wrought!
Worse, such actions contribute to the perception that every aspect of life needs to be viewed through a friend-vs.-enemy lens. That's an idea that many voices on the radical right have been all too happy to embrace, since it helps them convince people to accept their enmity-fueled, "will-to-power" approach to politics.
None of this absolves the Groypers and others who have been seduced by the illiberal right from responsibility for their actions. But it's next to impossible to convince people to lay down weapons that they have repeatedly seen turned against them. Trust me: I've been trying.
The president of the pro-Trump Claremont Institute, Ryan P. Williams, summed up his side's position in a 2021 blog post when he wrote that "conformity with [left-wing] fads, in word and deed, is being fanatically enforced across civil society and by national and state governments." He called on Americans to fight back by "wielding whatever levers of power are available"—including governmental levers*.
"Will the other side abuse governmental power if the tables are turned?" Williams asked. "Of course, but that will happen regardless."
It's a very good thing that prominent figures such as Yglesias have begun drawing attention to the left's illiberal turn. I welcome him to this cause. A story about the current crisis on the American right that doesn't grapple with the role played by the American left is worse than incomplete; it empowers the voices who say that politics will never be anything other than an all-out war for tribal domination, so we'd better just act like it. Liberalism offers an alternative, but it requires a lot more self-awareness from people on the left of center than we've seen so far.
CLARIFICATION: The original version of this article used ambiguous phrasing.
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Sorry, Reason, no dice. I will not pay for non-libertarian content.
Back to the main show: collectivism sucks.
That message has been there for at least a year. Maybe more. And while I might pay for the content, there’s no way I’d pay a dime to argue with the idiots who pollute the comments.
Yes, you have a mirror for that.
Um, no. I’m not a Trump defender. Though I'm sure that comment scored you some points with them. After all that’s all anyone does. Actual conversation? Yeah right.
Poor retarded sarc.
that comment scored you some points
Where's the scoreboard? How many points do you get from jeff per strawman you post?
Kimberly Guillfoyle is quite the catch…from a pond!!! Ribbit ribbit;)
Funny, shrike made this same asinine joke before.
great mindslame socks think alike?We've known SBF was a Shrike sock pretty much since day one. He and Sarc are unable to change their posting style.
Neither one of them has any real intelligence.
When was the last time you tried to start an actual conversation?
I think it was a few months ago and it was regarding a band he saw.
Um, no. I’m not a Trump defender.
The fact that sarc equates Trump defender with idiot reveals he is not the fairminded commenter he apparently sees in his own mind.
Actual conversation? Yeah right.
It's just bizarre the person most directly responsible for turning the board into shitshow still manages to see himself as the hero of his own mind. Whether it's starting every single thread with an attack on those he hates, applying standards only to those he hates, or engaging in juvenile name calling like claiming to fuck other comments' mothers he still manages to see himself as above it.
This is Left Wing Privilege: the belief that you deserve respect and stand for decency even though you are the worst slime found anywhere.
You are a willfully ignorant egotist. You WISH you had half the credibility you claim Trump supports have.
Yes, you pollute the comments. Time for you to go.
"Matt Yglesias"
No, stop right there.
BTW, hypocrisy is the fuel on which D.C. runs.
We got a Jonah Goldberg quote too, today. If Reason 2001 had a time machine it would kick Reason 2025's ass
The amount of mental gymnastics required in this piece should yield a gold medal.
Yet they are apparently too subtle and hidden for you to rebut them.
All hat and no cattle.
Only if there's a gold medal for walking on a flat, dry sidewalk. The mental gymnastics to summarily dismiss it, however... Your ability to ignore reality is truly exceptional.
I don't think people on the left of center appreciate just how much damage such efforts have done when it comes to eroding trust in our governing institutions across large swaths of the American public.
This is the one thing the left have been good at, showing why people should distrust government. Watch it like a hawk, attack it as every opportunity, defang it, declaw it, render it power less. You can never distrust government too much. Unfortunately, Trumpistas haven't learned that lesson. Statists, the lot, left and right; they are the enemy.
A genuinely libertarian piece, and spot-on. I remember when the Social Justice-As-Extension-of-Classical-Liberalism writers at The Nation (Christopher Hitchens, Katha Pollitt) distanced themselves from the editorial turn toward "multicultural tolerance," which was excusing the primitive cruelties of Shari'a on the grounds that Western powers had invaded Afghanistan, forgetting that these barbarous customs were practiced long before there was a West, and that the Enlightenment itself was a reaction to similar illiberalism under Christian rule.
Sorry, you lose on this, bigly:
Nonetheless, even without involving state power, it is obviously possible to take things too far. When students shout down campus speakers or activists otherwise disrupt events to the point of obstructing people who want to hear a message (or gather for some other purpose) from being able to do so, their behavior may not technically qualify as violence or coercion, but it is indisputably hostile to liberal values. Likewise when it comes to some of the more egregious examples of out-of-control cancellation mobs we've seen in the last decade or so.
That is trespassing, coercion, enforced by the threat of violence. It is NOT canceling.
They shot Charlie Kirk in the neck on campus in front of his family while giving one of his many, many, completely peaceful speeches.
Fuck Slade with a rusty garden tool.
Both Benny Johnson and Tim pool had activists fire or threaten them in person the last 2 weeks. Tim is even selling his studio now.
JizzeAzz, I’m so scared. 9/11 was an inside job.
Shrike, that wasn’t a rebuttal, it was a tantrum. Come back when you’ve got something better than name-smearing and random conspiracy karaoke.
It should be noted that this specifically isn't a partisan issue either. I don't care if it was Joe Rogan or PIerce Morgan or Jimmy Kimmel.
This specifically cuts through, or should with even a fairly immoral American, the "MUH KULTUR WAR!" bullshit. Shouting and chanting for or against Israel *or* Palestine *or* LGBTQ people on campus is one thing. Potentially harassing Jews *or* Palestinians *or* LGBTQ people is still another. Harassing Jews *or* Palestinians *or* LGBTQ pepole **and** occupying and destroying buildings on behalf of Israel or Palestine is still another above that. Waiving "queers for Palestine" during disruptive unrest on one campus while Charlie Kirk or Tim Pool or Don Lemon or JImmy Kimmel gets shot while giving a planned, peaceful speech on the next is well beyond any sort of libertarian or generally modern Western principle.
To turn around and say, under the banner of Free Minds and Free Markets, that the one side shooting people is approximately the same as the other side explaining, without violence, disruption, or harassment how their opposition is wrong, even encouraging open debate on the topic... you aren't a libertarian. You aren't a Liberal by any definition of the word. You aren't even Progressive by any functional or objective definition. You've shit the bed and you're trying to use the Nolan Chart to cover your dysfunctional, shit-stained bare ass in a futile attempt to preserve some dignity or respect while you flee.
What are you doing reading anything?? You should be watching Erika Kirk every day for the 16 hours she’s on Fox News!! Wait a second…who’s watching the kids?? KEVIN!!! Except in this version of Home Alone Kevin would have access to a weapons cache to mow down the robbers. Take that, ya filthy animals! 😉
You put a lot of effort into not being the least bit funny.
Shrike, listing a bunch of stuff you hate and stapling on a wink emoji doesn’t magically turn it into comedy. If you’re going to do mockery, at least try being funny.
He’s too stupid for that.
Seeing your name reminded me I have to take a huge shit.
Brb
Walz +8
"They"?
This article contradicts every narrative about Reason. That means it doesn’t exist.
Wut?
This is literally yet another example of Slade pushing the current democrat narrative. No independent thought at all. Another mainstream/globalist narrative.
Oh, it exists. It's another one of many, many articles about the dangers of the "far right".
This article contradicts every narrative about Reason.
See, I told you guys Sarckles never reads the articles.
This article would be more interesting on if it discussed why Google and other entities are boosting Fuentes and Owen's.
Those two shit slingers don’t show up on my Google/Youtube feed.
You must be locked into the Nutty Right-Wing Conspiracies feed.
It's revolting to think about what shows up on any of your "feeds".
We can only hope that his online activities eventually get the attention of law enforcement.
I’m far more concerned about what inhabits his hard drive. The FBI should really take a peek at that.
They’re not part of the kiddie porn algorithm.
Don't they usually block everything on your YouTube feed within a matter of minutes?
1. CRT is an academic subject that is completely valid. It looks at how systemic racism in the past affects the present.
2. The "left" is not responsible for the Republicans going fascist. The Republicans are.
Good Golly Miss Molly! How quick you are to defend wokism.
CRT is a legitimate academic subject. It’s just not very important.
shrike is a strong proponent of racism.
Yes, I suppose people should learn about Marxism just so they can learn to not repeat it. We've seen how well that goes.
As this coming from the Georgia Klansman who calls African Americans "lawn jockeys", it's legit.
CRT judges everything on race and so does Shrike.
Ima edition to raping kids, he’s a vicious bigot too. Although he would certainly set that aside to rape a little black body of the opportunity presented itself.
Being woke is good. I am proud to be woke. Everyone should be woke and proud of it. The only people against being woke are racists. Woke is many ways is the opposite of racism.
Is woke tbe word for red in china?
Woke is overt racism, woke is castrating and maiming gay children, woke is sentencing women in prisons to rape because some sex offender claimed he was female at sentencing, woke hates free speech, woke is child porn, woke is baby killing, woke is antisemitic, woke shuts down drug treatment centers and the feeds addicts drugs at homeless camps, woke is jail terms for misgenderers, ad nauseam.
There hasn't been a belief system so evil since 1945.
ChatGPT what is Mother’s Lament?
Mother’s Lament is a disingenuous, far right, bigot who is despised my the overwhelming majority of the FNMI Community and most Canadians.
Hey KKK! We know you didn’t use AI. You’re too stupid for that.
You used AR (Artificial Retardation), as your kind is wont to do.
Hey I have a serious question for you?
Who did you vote for president in 04? 08? 12?
Did you vote for the neocons?
Also you’re the one on the side of white supremacists you white trash hick. The KKK insult only makes you look more retarded.
You’re the racist, cunt. This is why you are KKK (Kreepy KAR Kreature) And no one here (who counts, anyway thinks I’m retarded. You however, are universally regarded as Retard Supreme.
Now fuck off KKK. You’re boring me, again.
How am I racist?
You openly praise white nationalists!
You’re just a backwards hick in the shithole part of your state who needs to learn your place, accept you are inferior, and shut the fuck up.
Patriots like me are fed up with you vermin causing trouble.
When are you going to start eliminating “Marxists?” That’s 90% of what you post on here. By your definition the vast majority of Americans are marxists. You have never contributed anything intelligent on here ever.
You need to show respect for your superiors you little white trash bitch boy.
Now shut the fuck up and go to bed you cowardly little bitch
Stfu you racist pos.
KKK, you have nothing to say, and you’re saying it too loud. You better fuck off before things get real bad for you.
Learn to obey, while you can.
Now do you understand why I call for the elimination of the democrat party?
Walz +11
It would be best if you committed suicide now.
Being "woke" is generally to be a sanctimonious prick. And while theoretically being the opposite of racism, in practice, it fully embraces judging people by demographic identities.
Woke means teaching children they should hate the kids who sit next to them in class if they have a different skin color, so it's appropriate you say you're proud of it.
What about Chinese racism to other ethnicities like Africans or uyghers?
I would also love to see what your English to Chinese dictionary for fascism says.
Critical Theory itself is bullshit. When applied to "race" relations, it's still bullshit. Of course, that doesn't mean it's not a legitimate academic subject. Academics have a right to indulge in bullshit. Some entire academic fields are bullshit.
You deny that past racism has an effect on people today?
Irrelevant.
If you want to know why racism persists, look in a mirror.
You’re the racist. Just like very other Democrat.
Individuals have every right to be racist.
It's when the Gov 'Guns' get involved in 'race' that it becomes a 'racist' issue.
AND YOUR SIDE (the left) is the one making everything 'racist' in politics.
Your side is all about political gender-status, race-status, wealth-status etc, etc, etc.....
Your side is so wrapped-up in [WE] Identify-as politics all you know how to-do is Self-Project your own 'racist' views on everyone else.
Course what should've you expected to come about from a party that believes in [WE] Identify-as *special* RULES absolute?
Incorrect. Until the US gov is compleatly out of academics there is no legitimate research area. Only companies looking to destroy the west would fund crt
Kill yourself, before your stupid infects other people.
Walz +11
BwaHahahahahaha
CRT is an academic subject that is completely valid. It looks at how systemic racism in the past affects the present.
No, that is not what CRT is.
Slade, there is no 'far right'.
Fascism is most definitely far-right. It’s conservatism on steroids.
Churchill was to the right of Mussolini, Stalin and Hitler.
And American fascists comprise a tiny group of disaffected losers sending newsletters to each other from their Moms' basements. They are insignificant.
Uh, sure. Nothing says conservative like a totalitarian state. Unless you want to make up more definitions.
A collectivist state as well.
Fascism is a descendant of socialism, a left wing ideology. It may not be as left as communism, but it's still left wing.
Fascism has no relation to conservatism because fascism embraces government power which true conservatism eschews. Fascism is "right" only in the sense that the National Rally party was "right" in the French National Assembly, yet solidly a part of the overwhelmingly socialist nature of the entire government just as in the U.S. and the West, where there are NO truly conservative parties or even significant numbers to support them.
Walz +8
No matter how many times you repeat this, it’s never going to be true you retarded fuckstick.
ignited curiosity about what is causing the evident moral and intellectual disintegration of American conservatism
Cites self. Not even another Reason writer.
A "journalist" citing *themselves* about the evident moral and intellectual disintegration of anything except their own work is pretty immoral and intellectually lazy self-indulgence.
OK, Stephanie [bites apple] who are these people who are ablaze with the curiosity of why conservatives have morally and intellectually disintegrated (again)?
>>The introduction of the "Groypers" into our national consciousness over the last six weeks has ignited curiosity
yes, to the extent I discover who in my midst would be so fucking stupid to give Fuentes the time of day ... or Owens ... or Carlson (fuck you right back, buddy) ... so as a smokeout, yes. otherwise, no
AFAICT, Stephanie changed her me/my pronouns to we/our and she's literally not talking about anyone else besides herself.
Outside of Reason and citations of/from Reason, I haven't heard anyone use the term "Groyper"
agreeable assessment. I didn't read wonder if she posted their Pakistani viewer numbers as part of the curiosity
Nick Fuentes’ followers are a lot of the same Islamists who support Mamdani.
Fuentes celebrates Stalin, thinks sex with women is gay, wants to get rid of the free market, and supported Kamala Harris. Anyone who thinks him and his groypers are right wing is as retarded as Tim Walz.
I’ll say it again. Our constitutional republic will not survive if we don’t eliminate the Marxists and the Islamists. That’s not a joke.
It’s a deadly reality.
Fuentes says whatever he thinks will piss people off or get him more attention. And unfortunately the left has started to copy him with Wajahat and the plastic surgery disaster woman.
It's rage-baiting all the down.
5. Left wingers continue to loot, burn, and now assassinate everyone that doesn’t get in line, and mainstream voices on the left refuse to condemn it.
If they tell you they want to kill you, then start killing you, there’s only so many responses.
We’d better get rid of them before they do the same to us. I don’t know why this is even in question anymore.
Everything I’ve ever said about the Democrats, and the left in general, has proven true.
Thank you for an excellent summary. I've been trying to make the exact same points here for a very long time - with much less clarity, of course, than this very good writer. The committed righties and socialist lefties here have always dismissed it as "whataboutism" but it is not whataboutism to point out the tit-for-tat steps and retaliations and provocations and escalations that led historically to the current irremediable feud, or point out that both sides were wrong as if it were excusing one side or the other.
Yeah I need to give this another read but I'm actually surprised and impressed with Slade here. A rare defense of classical liberalism. Credit where due. Good work Stephanie.
Perhaps at least a decade late to the party, though. Also, still seems to assume the Left has been generally well intentioned in all of this.
I believe that many followers on the left are clueless enough to be well-intentioned about the whole "visualizing world peace" crap. Obviously the rest on the left have been deliberately provoking class warfare - by pushing their agenda far beyond "equal rights and due process" into the region of "a bridge too far" - in hopes that the destruction of the social fabric will shake out as the Fifth International.
The liberal elitists who took over the Democratic Party are definitely responsible for putting Trump in office.
1. They lost the women's vote by supporting MALE athletes and ruining the women's Olympics. But wait, there's more. They went on to cancel motherhood itself by changing mothers to "birthing persons!" (trans-women can never do that!)
2. They lost the vote of the working class who founded the party, by going nuts over immigrants. (they don't "pick our food". Google it) Completely ignoring how the majority of Hispanics are conservative Christians against abortion.
3. They showed their closet racism by appropriating the term "Woke", from the black community. When that very act of smug superiority is the actual definition of "systemic racism", which black Americans are woke to.
-All of which is proven by their desperate obsession with claiming to be "the smart ones". (if they were smart, they would have seen all this coming)
They are the upper middle class spoiled rich brats, the true white privileged, and are just Republicans in sheep's clothing.
Need to get rid of them.
The entire article is fatally flawed from the start by her equating Leftism with Liberalism. The two have nothing to do with each other; in fact, leftists loathe liberal values, and we see that in action any time they achieve any power.
In the first paragraph she describes the left as being on an illiberal journey. How is she equating the two?
The whole article is based on the assumption that leftists should be expected to be liberal, and that their recent failure to promote liberal values is something that has gone wrong with leftism.
Similar to the assumption that if we just generate enough prosperity through free trade with China, they'll come around on Capitalism and Individual Liberty (despite any/all evidence to the contrary, including them specifically using the margins of any/all free trade to prop up and expand socialism).
And you loath both, so I am impressed that you're (correctly) defending liberalism here. Respect.
'The Far Right Is Powered by Left-Wing Illiberalism and Hypocrisy'
And of course "far right" means anyone right of Bernie Sanders. And maybe even Bernie. Just ask the far left.
So Christian National Socialist infiltrator Bund Deutche Steph says the commie dems are hypocrites. What a SURPRISE! She then gives THAT as the reason Christian National Socialists now go after libertarians the way they went after Jews for three decades. To self-addled mystics that prolly does all kinds of resonating. This is not the Reason content you're looking for. Move along...
Yeah maaaaan, she’s like, an infiltrator for the man! Totally ungroovy.
You're pretty fucking crazy, aren't you? Seek help.
Conservative by temperament, old, white, male, born and raised in a fundamentalist Christian family on a failing farm in rural Idaho, career enlisted military (SMSgt (ret) USAF), comfortably retired from a second career in IT Security, I am a charter member of the strongly Trump-voting demographic. Believe me, I have a lifetime of knowing them well, and I think much more of their ability to make up their own minds on something beyond reflexive opposition, than does Stephanie Slade.
During these first decades of the 21st century, the internet's amplification of gut-level prejudices and algorithmic stickiness enabled a new population of receptive people with urges they’d previously felt necessary to repress out of a sense of shame, to suddenly cast off shame in a comradeship of like-minded shamelessness—a shamelessness has always been Donald Trump’s own superpower. His example and the permissions structure his viral infectiousness built, is the secret to his success.
But the author blames ultra-right transgressiveness on…Progressives? Blames the only group who voted overwhelmingly against Donald Trump? Instead of the sub-group who voted overwhelmingly for authoritarian autocracy?
No, it's important to remember that in times of difficulties less real than imagined, motivated reasoning & confirmation bias led a bare plurality of GOP voters to reject an experienced, knowledgeable woman of even temperament, good judgement—and Black/Indian heritage—in favor of a would-be Caudillo doing his best to break American representative democracy.
This decade’s GOP citizens of MAGAnistan have Agency. It is THEY, in their craving of a Severe Daddy strong-man authoritarian, who restored the presidential overreaching of Donald Trump to the Presidency (using the excuse of a non-constitutional Unitary Executive logic promoted by John Roberts and Bill Barr since their days as Republican White House functionaries).
Politically, I'm neither Republican nor Democrat, but will accept existing within the boundaries of the noun and adjective forms of liberal, as opposed to its opposite, illiberal.
Married to my only wife for 49 years now, interested not only in my own relatively short remaining life but in the future of my children and grandchildren, I remain by choice and temperament a natural, liberal, conservative, which I define as believing in:
• the importance of institutionalism;
• communitarianism surviving individuals;
• fact-based knowledge & reality-based decision making;
• delayed gratification; and
• humility about what we do not—and perhaps cannot—know.
The more progressive side of liberalism has always had a problem with the last two of those (sometimes the last three). But every Trump cultist and every member of the Republican Party anointing Trump as its leader, has entirely rejected all five. None retain a rational claim to conservatism. As reflected in the comments today, they're a combination of illiberal, reactionary, and revanchist.
The fault, dear Ms. Slade, is not in our stars, but in ourselves. You wanted Trump and his motley zoo of illiberals...and got him.
Thank God we've got Trump. Let the leftists burn.
Actually a pretty decent article...
Except the blatantly retarded attempt to flag it-all under MAGA.
Demsas writes a full article describing Democrats to a T.
Then blindly with no evidence calls it MAGA thought.
Leftard Self-Projection is on steroids this year.
When either side overreaches, an equal and opposite reaction will develop to counterbalance the overreach. At this point in time the the left has drastically overreached, which I believe began with Barack Obama. Not because he is half black, which I believe that over 90% of the voters accepted, but with his activism.
From there it escalated to a ridiculous level which opened the door for a dramatic reaction in the opposite direction. I have no illusions that the justified reaction will constrain themselves to maintain an equilibrium, but rather believe that it will overreach and provoke a counter reaction.
The left is guilty of excessively overreaching and has a long history of overreaching, but the right is not in foreign territory although are generally less inclined with the exception of a few fringe group of excessive overreach.
I don't know if Trump has shifted the narrative with overreach, but I suspect that conservative people will act more conservatively and not overreach to the same degree that the left has done. Not enough restraint to dampen the wild swings, but perhaps reducing the speed of the wild swing.
Conservative people should take heed the cyclical nature and mindfully restrain themselves and the actions they institute that they avoid the blow-back when the cycle returns.
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The problem in giving that as an example is, these things are incommensurate. The situation is not 0-sum, but negative-sum. Marriage was an arrangement that common law arrived at to be as compatible as feasible with individual liberty while accounting for the benefits of families. It can only hurt individual liberty to extend the idea beyond that necessity.
But this is how we're going lately with social change w.r.t. liberties. Society spent generations climbing the hill of sexual liberation and equal rights, only to now be falling into the pit of, they were right all along, biology is destiny, so your social affiliation reveals your "real sex".
That's the trouble that comes from turning over leadership of liberation to the "left". As John in these comments pointed out, the "left" is interested not in progress toward a goal, but in constant revolution: the overturning of everything, so as to make everyone constantly uncomfortable, never on a sure footing.
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Right, because they're fine with that — making people uncomfortable, punishing them — not really wanting you to satisfy their supposed beliefs.
I do not believe it's possible to grasp what's happening on the right without accepting that the left has, for decades now, been on its own illiberal journey—because to a far greater extent than most observers would like to admit, the former phenomenon is a response to the latter.
Finally a Reasoner admits the truth. The important takeaway from this is that the right will not accept any reform which does not also address the left. A secondary takeaway is that anyone refusing to address the left's illiberalism isn't against illiberalism, they're just against the right.
We need to recognize that there's a natural tendency to overlook violations of norms and legal procedures by our own side while hyperfixating on our rivals' transgressions.
The next step is applying this understanding to Reason and asking why almost all its current writers view the left as their team even though they claim to be libertarians.
I think if we're being honest with ourselves, if we compare that to the kinds of activism in the gender politics space today or really any kind of social-justice space today, we find that they have adopted a very different approach to pushing for the things they believe in, which is much more militant and much more retributive.
This underplays the problem, framing this approach as independent decisions made by different people on different issues. In reality the conclusion is that the left's "inclusive" approach on gay marriage was a fraud, they always intended militant retribution the moment it became feasible. The fact that this conversion drew effectively no opposition by anyone who engaged in the supposedly inclusive approach shows that they all approved. Nor is gay marriage the first time, the left's conversion from affirmative action meaning advertising in minority media to overwhelming race preferences and political favoritism was the same practice. This is important because everyone not on the far left knows they will try the same approach again and will oppose any effort leading to the same process.
Of all the internet pundits Matt Yglesias is the biggest dumbshit of the them all. Quoting Matty? Opinion dismissed.
Always a good read: https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/the-opinions-of-matt-yglesias-should-be-ignored
"Matt Yglesias is confidently wrong about everything"
By Abandoning Free Speech and Other Liberal Values
And yet in this section of the piece you do not give a single example of "far right" doing anything to stop free speech.
Because, as I'm sure you know, the "far right" are the biggest advocates of free speech we have in the political sphere of today's world. By FAR
I'm strongly of the belief that some people deserve to be "canceled," inasmuch as private actors have every right to disassociate from people whose views or behavior they find abhorrent.
As I've said before the idea of cancelling has always included the idea that the justifications for "disassociation" have changed drastically, and we would be better off making that explicit. No one would object to anyone who believed blacks are a lower form of human being prevented from teaching. So there's always been some boundaries.
The problem was when the left expanded those boundaries to include pretty much anything they disagreed with based on their obviously self serving political mythology that their policies are equality and therefore any opposition to them is white supremacy.
Cancelling needs to be understood not just as disassociating but as demanding it for reasons requiring extreme interpretations of reality.
anyone who believed blacks are a lower form of human being prevented from teaching
Have you ever had a few drinks with a teacher? In my experience, that is a common belief among teachers. That's one reason they're so opposed to objective performance standards. They believe it's unfair to expect results from them when they're being given inferior children to work with.
Achieving lower on a particular performance metric does not make any group a lower form of human.
So you're in favor of objective performance standards for teachers?
TL;dr
- Democrats really did do it first
When twitter, facebook, paypal, and youtube cancel you because the Biden admin put deep state stooges on the trust and safety teams there, that's a problem
This article is 50% accurate and 50% intentionally meretricious. And so the moral and intellectual decline of "Reason" continues apace. Sad!
What the author calls far right is actually so far left Bernie Sanders looks right wing in comparison.
Wow so many angry comments, Reason must be doing something right if they piss off both the political left and right.
And that's why I come here, I don't want a partisan cheerleader, I want an outlet that stands by its principles. I don't always agree with Reason, but I respect their consistency to their values.
And let's face it - both sides played this game. The left went nuts with a lot of really dubious lawfare against Trump, which backfired on them in the election, and Trump has responded in kind with lawfare against Comey and others, which will probably backfire against him.
the note about gay rights activists using an inclusive, positive-sum, humanizing approach in the 90s and 00s is a very good one. I was struck by how much progress was made when they shifted from the uber-militant stances of the 70s and 80s. that earlier approach was always off-putting, even to many of us allies, but after the change, the dominoes started falling.