Trump Pardoned Gobble and Waddle. He Should Pardon More Deserving People, Too.
The president loves freeing people. His controversial clemency grants should not obscure the fact that the pardon power is incredibly important.
President Donald Trump on Tuesday issued two pardons. It was one of the more conventional uses of the power we've seen from the president. The recipients were not convicted of taking bribes, or defrauding people to spend money on plastic surgery and OnlyFans, or engaging in a crypto money-laundering scheme.
Gobble and Waddle are turkeys. The pair will thus avoid becoming someone's dinner centerpiece tomorrow, as is Thanksgiving tradition. Lucky them.
Three years ago, I wrote about why the president—Joe Biden at the time, but all presidents, really—should focus on pardoning people, not turkeys. I'm no Scrooge. I love a holiday custom. It can stay! But the idea, hopefully, is that it also be liberally applied to humans, as the president's ability to give clemency is effectively the only check on overzealous prosecutions and righting unjust sentences at the federal level.
During his second term, Trump seems to have taken this general advice. His immediate blanket pardon for those convicted of offenses related to January 6, for example, gave clemency to over 1,500 people, when many commanders in chief prefer to wait until the 11th hour to sign off on grants (if they're generous at all, which is a big if). Trump, meanwhile, appears to really, really like freeing people this go-round. We love that energy. More presidents should lean into this!
Whether or not they will, or if the public will want them to, is another question. Trump's generous record on clemency has been somewhat complicated by the recipients. The January 6 pardons were unpopular, particularly for those convicted of violent crimes. Just 16 percent of Americans approve of the president commuting the sentence received by George Santos (the former Republican congressman convicted of wire fraud and identity theft), while 12 percent support him pardoning Changpeng Zhao (the billionaire convicted of money laundering in connection with his crypto company, Binance), according to a recent YouGov/Economist survey. This comes after Biden ended his term shortly after pardoning his son, Hunter.
Public perception of the pardon power, in other words, is taking a beating. The skepticism is understandable—it probably isn't a great idea, for example, to pardon a sheriff who took bags of cash from rich businessmen in exchange for law enforcement badges. Touché. But that does not change the fact that clemency remains a lifeline for deserving federal prisoners who have spent years in prison, and who deserve a second chance.
Trump himself understands this. In his first term, he commuted the sentence of—and later fully pardoned—Alice Marie Johnson, who in some sense epitomizes what the pardon power is designed to correct: sentenced to life in prison for a first-time, nonviolent drug offense.
She is, of course, not alone. In the same pardon piece I wrote in 2022, I highlighted one such prisoner: Edwin Rubis, who, at the time, had spent about 25 years behind bars for conspiracy to distribute cannabis. According to the Bureau of Prisons, he is still incarcerated, and is not due to be released until 2031. The president thankfully loves freeing not just turkeys but also people. Perhaps an idea?
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He already pardoned most of the people democrats tried to dismantle with bullshit charges. Dem AGs are still going after them seeking state charges. Your ally Sullum applauded these abuses.
Yep, like George Santos, Scott Jenkins, Randall Cunningham, Duncan Hunter, and all those other corrupt politicians that kissed Trump's ass in exchange for a pardon.
Don’t forget that child predator and fan of boys shower room Denny Hastert (former GOP Speaker of the House) was released from prison before Donnie could pardon him.
Poor retarded shrike. So upset that doj lawfare was stopped. Also upset that dem lawfare actors are being held accountable. Because if nothing else shrike is a retarded leftist who sees government as a tool for his socialist party.
Meanwhile Biden literally pardoned his family and dems for 10 years of bad acts. Good work shrike.
Im sure those 60 and 70nyear old non violent grandmother's deserved 18 months for being in a public building for 20 minutes.
If turkeys Gobble and Waddle had been travelling peacefully on the high seas, in a speedboat, would they at least have gotten a warning, an attempt at apprehension, or a trail or at least basic fact-finding, before being summarily executed? The current policy from Dear Orange Caligula is a REAL TURKEY!!!
Also, WHEN will the vast cuntcentration camps full of cheap-plastic-flute violators be emptied out, and the "offenders" released?
Ass my pubic duty on this them that thar-here Thanksgiving Day, I do my charitable deed of the day, below...
To find precise details on what NOT to do, to avoid the flute police, please see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/DONT_DO_THIS/ … This has been a pubic service, courtesy of the Church of SQRLS!
You perform a public disservice, Melvin.
Says an indisputable ASSHOLE who wants to see EVERYONE (excepting Shitself of course) in a cuntcentration camp for having blown on cheap plastic flute, w/o authorization by the AuthorShitarian State, and Shit's handmaidens, overpaid, degreed Doctors of Doctorology!!!
Get better copypasta, Melvin.
He did free Ross Ulbricht, fulfilling a campaign promise and doing one of the two things I was hoping he would do. (He did the other, too.)
Created a viral dance is the other one isnt it.
How much did Gobble and Waddle pay Fatass? Donnie don’t do anything unless Donnie benefits.
How much did you pay Reason to get your account back after being permabanned for posting dark web hardcore child porn links here, Shrike?
As a donor and poster emeritus, Reason has my home address. If there was any truth to what you Trump-tard liars claimed I wouldn’t be here.
Then, what exactly happened to your original SPB account, dudette? And don't give us the lame-ass lost password excuse again.
Marxist Moose-Mammary Necrophiliac stole Shrike's ID and posted child porn under the stolen ID, is a VERY viable theory! She DID steal my ID (handle) is a documented and demented, DEMONstrable FACT!
(More likely this shit is ALL MADE UP LIES, just like the "fact" that I said I like to eat shit!)
Right, Melvin, and the moon is made of cheese.
Germany’s Secret Plan for War With Russia
A classified blueprint shows why weapons or troop numbers alone may not decide the outcome of a broader conflict between Moscow and the West
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/germany-russia-war-nato-secret-plan-8ce43a8d?st=1DygjC&reflink=article_copyURL_share
For the love of Gawd you Germans, avoid war with Russia until Donnie kicks over. You know how tight he is with Vlad. He will demand your surrender like he has Ukraine.
Big fucking deal, retard. All countries have these plans with their neighbors. It's only an issue when actually carried out, See: Operation Barbarossa.
Is a top story for the pinkos at the Wall Street Journal.
Don’t underestimate Vlad and Donnie. They both hate Western liberal democracy.
The WSJ is a neocon paper, retard. But then, of course, so are you.
Shrike, thanks for the link! Good to know!
Nope.
Drug criminals are right up there with child rapists and serial killers. Lock them up and never let them out. If you want to pretend they can be "rehabilitated," then fine - release them with the daily obligation of a drug test. For the rest of their lives.
And if they fail even slightly - and I'm not just talking about finding drugs in their system, if they ever even associate with another known drug user or drug criminal - then right back to jail and throw away the key.
You smackhead crack-addict bong-clouded rejects keep pretending that what you do is harmless. It is not. You have proven repeatedly that you cannot contain it to yourselves, nor do you seem to have any desire to. You have proven repeatedly that your efforts to proliferate are predatory in nature, designed to create and exploit addicts. You have proven repeatedly that you do not care about any second or third-order effects, and that the ONLY thing you care about in life is getting high.
Druggies are a pox on any civilized first-world society. Just put them in jail and forget they exist.
You should move to Singapore then. Using recreational drugs is a matter of personal liberty.
I dare you to take some and then drive on a public highway. Preferably past a cop.
You’re implying that alcohol should be illegal too. As a Prohibitionist why are you soiling the comment section of a libertarian publication?
You can have your personal liberty to use them in your home. But, it is not your personal liberty to use them, then drive and endanger (break the NAP) others.
If it were a matter of personal liberty, you'd contain it to yourself, avoid predatory behavior, and take responsibility for the second/third-order effects.
You junkies do none of that. All the high, none of the responsibility/accountability.
You belong in jail. Forever.
I’m not going to redebate a tired topic. It’s just odd that you drug warriors hang out at a libertarian site.
Our resident "drugs r bad mkay" libertarian.
Our resident the only freedom that matters is not being responsible or accountable retard.
Color revolutions - you're in one!
https://x.com/CynicalPublius/status/1993886979738460646?s=20
Interesting that the Orange, Rose and other Soros backed color revolutions supported the overthrow of oppressive socialist USSR style governments.
Vlad, Donnie and yourself all pining for the USSR.
More on it.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/seditious-six-scripted-video-appears-be-part-lefts-broader-color-revolution-against-trump
Celebrated by the shrikes and mikes of the world.
So what exactly is "New Politics"?
https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1993809967338733768?s=20
Sounds like this “New Politics” is a democracy supporting NGO. Is that why you Wingnuts are trying to preemptively trash them?
Never heard of them. Think I’ll investigate.
These are the guys Shrike champions.
https://x.com/ChristianHeiens/status/1993858810616627625?s=20
I was onto the Bushpigs before anyone else here back in 2007-08. I kept saying the GOP should be ostracized and Obama elected in a landslide.
But most of you Peanuts pledged everlasting loyalty to Team Red. Bush is now ostracized.
Of course I was right.
As is usual with Binion, he undermines his own argument, probably in an attempt to be tongue in cheek.
Mass uses of the Pardon power are not a good thing. It's like saying it's a good thing that the plumber came to your house 500 times last year. Sure, it's great he was available to provide this service, but it's a sign that there is a problem with your shit system.
Mass pardons mean one or two things are happening:
1) Our judicial system is broken.
2) Real criminals have corrupted the system to escape real crimes.
I have no problem with these powers as a final stopgap. But if you don't see how each use should be followed with a review to make sure its not needed again, you are ensuring that both of those cases are true.
I mean, look at this article. Binion is celebrating rich billionaires escaping legitimate crimes in the hopes that...what...people will support more of that, so maybe one or two really unjust prosecutions are fixed? It's perverse.
That's an infinitely more reasonable take than Billy's. Using the pardon power to shed light on structural flaws in the judicial system only makes sense if you're going to then address those flaws. Not just pardon a single individual who was famous enough or powerful enough to command the president's attention.
But that assumes presidents are granting pardons to people who were wronged by the judicial system. That's not what we do anymore. Clinton dealt the power a serious blow with his crooked, last-minute shenanigans. Things normalized a bit until Biden's puppeteer turned the power into an absolute joke. And Trump 2.0 is tripling down. We need more crooked politicians and CEOs in prison, not less.
The power has outlived it's intention. Time to get rid of it entirely or grant oversight by a third party who can overrule the pardons by a 2/3 vote or the like.