Chicago Cops Ignore the Law, Arrest Legal Gun Owners
Once we let our rights become privileges, government officials can revoke them on a whim.
			The whole premise of a mother-may-I approach to licensing activities like owning and carrying firearms is that the powers that be will honor the documents of those lucky enough to receive permission after agreeing to pretend that their rights are privileges. If, instead, officialdom laughs at the licenses it issues and penalizes people foolish enough to take them seriously, there's no point submitting to the humiliating process of begging indulgence from government officials to begin with.
This brings us to the trend of Chicago police arresting legal gun owners, even though they possessed and showed documents allowing them to own and carry firearms.
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Arrested Despite Obeying All the Rules
"An investigation by CBS News Chicago uncovered several times where police stopped Black gun owners for minor traffic violations and then charged them with felonies – even though they had legal firearm licenses," the station's Dorothy Tucker and Samah Assad reported October 20. "The findings prompted a rebuke from the National African American Gun Association. The ordeal also led to an exhausting toll and financial strain on the drivers. They had valid firearm licenses, but because of their arrests, spent months fighting to get charges dropped and expunged from their records."
One of the cases cited in the story is that of Louis McWilliams, the 46-year-old owner of a cheesecake bakery. On his way to a business meeting, police pulled him over for a missing front license plate (while the reason isn't mentioned in the story, license plate thefts are an ongoing problem in Illinois). According to CBS News, "police body camera video shows that after the police stopped him, the first thing he did was tell the officers he had a gun in the car." He also presented his Firearm Owner Identification (FOID) card and a concealed carry license (CCL), which CBS News confirmed as valid.
But Chicago police claimed they couldn't find his CCL in the Illinois State Police-run LEADS database. This shouldn't be surprising to anybody who has ever dealt with government records systems and their inevitable unreliability. That may be why "a spokesperson with the state police would not comment on specific cases but said if an officer is unable to check the status of a FOID or CCL in LEADS, 'the officer should not take any law enforcement actions as it relates to a potential FOID/CCL violation.'"
Lawless Cops and Illegal Arrests
But Chicago police ignored the valid FOID, the valid CCL, and the guidance to respect the documents and ignore the database's shortcomings. McWilliams was arrested, held in jail for a day, and charged with a felony. Charges were eventually dismissed, but his business suffered because of the missed meeting and his absences while he fought bogus charges. He still awaits the return of his gun.
CBS News notes Chicago police and Cook County prosecutors refused to be interviewed. What do they care? The damage has already been done to McWilliams and to other victims who tried to jump through the law's hoops and found government officials unwilling to abide by their own rules.
"This shows that no matter how much you follow a system of which they create, they can still deem you wrong," McWilliams said.
"Outrage. Anger. Frustration. Not again," Phil Smith, president of the National African American Gun Association, responded to the Chicago police violations. "Those are the conversations and statements that are going in my head when I hear about another black person being stopped illegally, being arrested illegally, when they've had all their stuff together."
The CBS story focuses on black gun owners receiving the brunt of abuses of authority by Chicago police and prosecutors when it comes to their self-defense rights. Race may be a major factor, or it may not be important at all, or it may be one factor on top of general government hostility to private gun ownership in some jurisdictions.
Hunting for Guns at All Costs
In 2023, Pascal Sabino of Injustice Watch, which monitors the Cook County court system, reported that Chicago police searching for illegal firearms "made hundreds of thousands more stops than they reported to state regulators" and in the process "even in their best year, police found guns in just 0.6 percent of stops." Sabino also found legal gun owners who were arrested and had to fight to get charges dropped. It's easy to imagine cops frustrated by finding more broken taillights than armed gangsters pushing the limits of their authority to satisfy their superiors.
As CBS News added, "it's nearly impossible to know how many drivers are wrongfully charged with unlawful gun possession, only to have the charges dismissed." The reporters found several other cases "including two lawsuits, accusing police of violating the rights of legal gun owners in similar situations."
Doug Mayhall, president of the Illinois State Rifle Association, adds: "What's happening in Chicago right now should outrage every single one of us. When licensed citizens are arrested while violent criminals roam free, it exposes a deep rot in our justice system. A system that's been corrupted by politics and driven by anti-gun ideology under Democrat leadership in Chicago."
The Danger When a Free Society Becomes a Permission Society
This is the problem with turning rights into privileges to be exercised only with permission dispensed by the government. What the government gives, it can take away. What the government turns into a revokable concession, it can hem in with arbitrary rules and conditions. Ultimately, the government can ignore its own "generosity" and decide on a whim that people aren't entitled to the privileges they've been granted. Then we end up suffering if we've run afoul of powerful people.
There are "fundamental problems with the Permission Society," Timothy Sandefur, the author of The Permission Society: How the Ruling Class Turns Our Freedoms into Privileges and What We Can Do About It, wrote in 2017. "One of them is that it violates the principle of equality. Who has to ask permission? An inferior has to ask permission of a superior. Slaves have to ask permission. Children have to ask permission. Until recently, women had to ask permission—to own property, get jobs, sign contracts, and so forth. To have to ask permission from someone else typically means flattering or appeasing that person, rather than being treated as equal citizens."
Chicago cops shouldn't try to meet demands to get guns off the streets by arresting people who have jumped through all the hoops to get permitted and licensed to own and carry firearms. But nobody should have to ask the government's permission to own a firearm or do anything else. Government officials like cops and prosecutors are supposed to work for the public, not flaunt their arbitrary power. And, as they've demonstrated with Chicago gun arrests, they aren't morally superior to anybody.
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Team D is ok with rapes and murders, but not ok legal firearm possession and self-defense use by the common citizen. The same political party is once again in open rebellion against liberty.
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Blue states are superior financial hubs by a margin, a certain level of progress leads to more need for welfare anywhere, and individuals that care about anything outside themselves (not right wingers) understand this (the majority that is now equipped with knowing who and what you are).
Carry on. The air is getting thin for you.
Then you agree that ending all forms of govt welfare would be perfect. Glad we can agree on this.
The american mind, which is fundamentally based on greed, will not incentivize any forms of private welfare. Won't be a thing, has never been. Not lucrative.
Let's see if capitalism will figure something out if EBT remains out of the equation.
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Panhandling, food kitchens.
So you think team gun confiscate is self-sufficient but you refuse to eliminate the govt wealth redistribution for the layabouts?
Greed is demanding the fruits of another’s labor. Maybe the bitter losers of the culture war can learn to serve coffee, type, code or something else more useful than community organizing for team blue.
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I bet against you.
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5.56, your comments have been duds. You've called the right-wingers names, but you haven't zeroed in on any specific criticisms. You haven't hit any targets because you haven't well-enough defined any.
Cant allow self defense in constructed leftist terrorism. The left needs to rely on their foot soldiers they not only disallow punishment for, but also fund through NGOs and even city settlements.
"Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State"
MAGAs are the dumbest shits on the planet.
What specifically makes them dumb? Otherwise, all that is is name-calling
Do you think MAGA ignored the law and arrested legal gun owners?
Yes. The cops were MAGA.
The cops are armed thugs of the team blue fascists disarming citizens in a deep blue, high violent crime area.
"Those are the conversations and statements that are going in my head when I hear about another black person being stopped illegally"
The guy didn't have a front plate so the traffic stop was legal. What happened after is the problem. This article insinuates that only minorities are suffering from these policies when every gun owner is. Just another "driving while black" story about the mean cops targeting black men using firearms as an excuse to write it.
When a cop asks you questions, don't answer them. "Here is my license, registration, proof of insurance" That's it. Say nothing else.
I agree however, the article doesn't point out anything that the cop did wrong.
"That may be why "a spokesperson with the state police would not comment on specific cases but said if an officer is unable to check the status of a FOID or CCL in LEADS, 'the officer should not take any law enforcement actions as it relates to a potential FOID/CCL violation." That's the spokesman's opinion and advice but is not the law. Change the law and if it keeps happening we can talk.
People keep confusing cops with DAs and judges in these articles. Cops dont decide to charge or not. The state fucked up with bad databases. Issue is with government. The city and state government also created the laws being enforced. The laws should be removed, but cops shouldn't be prosecutor and judge in these cases.
Actually, the cop did do something wrong - he made an arrest without reasonable evidence that a crime had been committed. The lack of a FOID or CCL in LEADS is not evidence of a crime. But even if you considered that as weak evidence, it would be directly contradicted by the physical copy of the FOID and CCL that the carrier presented to the police.
That's like saying you could be arrested for shoplifting because you had a pack of gum in your pocket despite having the receipt in the same pocket. That's not merely "guidance" - that's bog-standard police work. And, yes, the standards for arrest are already "the law" that police are supposed to abide by.
^^This.
Where I live, you are required by Law to answer the questions "Do you have a weapon on you?" or "Is there a weapon in your vehicle?". It is part of getting your Concealed Carry Permit. When they run your identification it will state that you have a Permit.
As CBS News added, "it's nearly impossible to know how many drivers are wrongfully charged with unlawful gun possession, only to have the charges dismissed." The reporters found several other cases "including two lawsuits, accusing police of violating the rights of legal gun owners in similar situations."
Are these few cases referenced anecdotal incidents or the tip of an iceberg? If "nearly impossible to know", it's certainly hard to assess the significance of the issue.
The ultra high violent crime rates, murders, and shootings in Chicago make it even more challenging for citizens that don’t want to be mugged, raped, or shot that are harassed by the team blue thugs not wanting folks to exercise 2A.
What if robbery and rape are reparations?
Only if they were targeting white Democratic Party members.
SRG2 assures us that there is no violent crime in Chicago.
It's almost as bad when your privileges become "rights". Because then people will use the government to take more from their fellows--by force--to fund their new-found "rights". Property, money, *real* rights, just taken by government to satisfy the gaping maw of the public sucking at the tit.
I think the name for this practice is " social justice". Coming soon to a government near you.
Forget it, Jake. It's Chi-town.
So CBS found several black men who were unjustly charged. Were they specifically looking for black victims? Did they find any white, Asian or other victims? Did they look? JD throws in a lame disclaimer that maybe race isn't an issue. Then why is the entire story race specific and why does JD just play along and publish obvious and divisive propaganda? This is the dishonest shit that Reason is becoming famous for.
Agreed. But who do you think Reason writes for, besides themselves?
When is any story like this on Reason, not about race?
National African American Gun Association
So is this an organization that only defends guns like the Armsel Striker and the Auto 5 or are they an organization that defends the ownership of any gun, are racist as fuck, and are getting free promotion in Reason despite the fact that you retards "mostly peacefully" ran than ship aground in 2020.
Fuck you asshats for perpetuating this divisiveness.
While I am generally skeptical of any race-based "affinity" group, I'm inclined to give this one a pass. Like the Women Gun Owners Association of America and the Pink Pistols, I believe the NAAGA serves to promote responsible gun ownership and education among their respective communities. More importantly, I believe that such groups directly contradict the hostile, divisive and intentional misframing of gun rights as merely an 'old, white male' or 'redneck' issue. These groups increase the visibility of gun ownership by demographics not traditionally recognized for alignment with that value. And for now that's good for all of us.
I believe that such groups directly contradict the hostile, divisive and intentional misframing of gun rights as merely an 'old, white male' or 'redneck' issue.
Put your beliefs in one hand and shit in the other and see which gets full first. Nobody is confused that gun control affects black people (or Brown people, or Yellow People, or Cervix-having people) except the people who want to be confused.
These groups increase the visibility of gun ownership by demographics not traditionally recognized for alignment with that value.
Right. It's between a false flag and poison pill. Just like BLM. Just like the NAACP. Just like the John Brown Gun Club cum Redneck Revolt cum Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club providing "armed security" for Drag Story hours and Trans Rights.
These aren't traditional gun ownership orgs with storied histories that trace back to the days of John Brown or back to they days leading up to the Stonewall Riots (even then, The Long March was well underway and they should be suspect). These are modern orgs trying to blanket their own specific social causes in more successful or Constitutionally-legitimate causes. It's not about empowering the individual RTKBA. It's about militarizing the revolution and/or legitimizing or sanctioning the militant arm of the Progressive/Leftist/Marxist Revolution.
Anecdote: Some years ago, when a Libertarian Party candidate in my area requested an endorsement from the Pink Pistols, they agreed. The rhetoric on their website was libertarian. They also opposed hate crime laws.
Buncha wild ass naagas!
It's not promoting divisiveness unless you mean by divisiveness dividing the Democratic Party by supporting one of their voting blocs (African-Americans) opposing the Democratic Party gun-control position.
Motherfuckers running propaganda for your fellow quangos:
Good for NAAGA. Libertarians should support them. One makes a libertarian revolution by making friends rather than enemies unless unavoidable.
Hey, the original gun control laws were to keep black people from being able to protect themselves after the Civil War. Looks like the same thing again, from the same party.
If the Trump admin is smart (and I'm not saying they are), they will jump on this, headline it and make is an actual black cause (which it is), separate from all the invented victim hood of the totalitarian left.
Democrats, telling black people what to do since 1827.
That's actually a good idea. I'm not sure Trump is smart or cares enough.
So you're saying that Chicago PD can't be trusted - but there's no need to Natl Guard too?
If you are implying that the National Guard will be deployed to protect people from the Chicago PD then you may have a valid point.
Otherwise considering just about every red state has a higher violent crime rate per capita then they should really be deployed where they are needed.
State boundaries are irrelevant. Mostly safe "Red" states with very high crime rates in their usually Democrat-ruled cities can have high crime rates for the state as a whole. Chicago has high violent crime. Beardstown and Canton do not.
This is all (D)ifferent because guns.
OK...The guy has an FOID and a CCL...Both of which require background checks and indicate that he's probably a pretty upstanding guy...
And the police are arresting HIM?
It is hard to say who is more racist, the Chicago PD or the MAGA commenters on this blog.
LOL... Complaint by the National African American Gun Association.
Democrats are the racists. Always has been; always will be.
...because their entire political theory revolves around [WE] Identify-as gangsters RULE!
i.e. Democra[ts][cy]
Identify-as is everything to them.
But cops answer to prosecutors, and ultimately judges. For some reasons the judges are not subjects of reporting and the public's disdain. What has changed?
“All the extravagance and incompetence of our present Government is due, in the main, to lawyers, and, in part at least, to good ones. They are responsible for nine-tenths of the useless and vicious laws that now clutter the statute-books, and for all the evils that go with the vain attempt to enforce them. Every Federal judge is a lawyer. So are most Congressmen. Every invasion of the plain rights of the citizens has a lawyer behind it. If all lawyers were hanged tomorrow, and their bones sold to a mah jong factory, we’d be freer and safer, and our taxes would be reduced by almost a half.”
—H.L. Mencken (1880-1956), “Breathing Space”, The Baltimore Evening Sun, 1924-08-04.
National African American Gun Association
Oh come on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg4OiobxUxA