Trump Campaigned on Free Speech. That Isn't How He's Governed.
Politicians across the aisle love free speech—until they're in power.
The Constitution's First Amendment protects free speech for good reason.
If people can't say what they want, we don't have honest debate.
I was relieved when Donald Trump, campaigning for the presidency, said, "If we don't have free speech, then we just don't have a free country!"
Good for him. Free speech is crucial to freedom.
Democrats, by contrast, had been eagerly censoring. During COVID-19, they threatened social media companies, ordering them to censor the internet.
"They are directly speaking to millions!" complained Kamala Harris, "without any level of oversight, and that has to stop!"
Fortunately, once Trump was reelected, he told his staff: "Stop all government censorship."
Hooray!
But now that Trump's president, and getting lots of criticism from the media, he's started calling speech that he doesn't like "illegal."
"They'll take a great story, and they'll make it bad. I think that's really illegal, personally."
He also threatened TV stations: "They give me only bad publicity…maybe their license should be taken away."
"There's free speech, and then there's hate speech," said his attorney general, Pam Bondi. "We will absolutely target you…if you are targeting anyone with hate speech."
They will "target" people?
Trump's Federal Communications Commission (FCC) chairman, Brendan Carr, joined in. When Jimmy Kimmel said nasty and incorrect things about Charlie Kirk's murder, Carr threatened ABC's TV licenses, saying, like a mafia boss, "We can do this the easy way or the hard way."
Yet months earlier, he'd tweeted: "Dismantle the censorship cartel and restore free speech rights."
And years earlier, he tweeted that the FCC does "not have a roving mandate to police speech in the name of the 'public interest.'"
He was right—then.
But power tends to corrupt.
Once Carr was in power, he no longer supported the speech he'd recently promoted.
Fortunately, some Republicans pushed back.
Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.): "Brendan Carr has got no business weighing in on this."
Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas): "I like Brendan Carr, but what he said there is dangerous as hell."
It was.
Carr and Bondi later "clarified" their comments. Carr said his "easy way or hard way" comment was not a threat to pull licenses. Bondi said hate speech itself won't be prosecuted.
Good.
Bizarrely, Democrats suddenly became free speech advocates.
"Reject the government's attempt to weaponize this moment into an all-out assault on free speech," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.).
But wait. When her party was in power, Ocasio-Cortez wanted government to "rein in our media environment so that you can't just spew disinformation!"
And "rein in" is exactly what Democrats tried to do, often succeeding.
Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg complained that Biden administration officials "would call up our team and scream at them….All these different agencies and branches of government basically just started investigating, coming after our company. It was brutal!"
Whoever is in power likes to use that power to shut the other side up.
In America, no government has the right to censor.
Politicians eager to shut the other side up should have paid attention to Charlie Kirk when, just a few months before he was killed, he said: "You should be allowed to say outrageous things! You should be allowed to say contrarian things….That is the bedrock of a liberal democracy."
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Carr threatened ABC's TV licenses, saying, like a mafia boss, "We can do this the easy way or the hard way."
Said on a podcast, in a discussion regarding licensing agreements.
Not in letters, calls, memos, direct threats.
Now compare to covid. Compare to Mackey. Compare to pro life protestors. Compare to non violent J6ers. Garland and others even went after Trumps fucking lawyers for legal advice.
The lesser evil is still evil.
Except to the extent the networks are outside their legal mandate to inform the public and instead are one-sided propagandists for a party. If they want to do that then move to cable.
To the extent that there is any such "legal mandate", it is unconstitutional. What you are calling for is a revival of the Fairness Doctrine. That flies in the face of "Congress shall make no law ..."
If networks are one-sided propagandists for a party, then they will live (and ultimately die) with that decision. There are no shortage of competing information sources and consumers are more than capable of choosing who to trust.
There are no shortage of competing information sources and consumers are more than capable of choosing who to trust.
Like?
Then explain Fox News.
Fox news whose owner Rupert Murdoch admitted in court, on the record, under oath that they lied to the public.
Fox news whose owner used legal loopholes to skirt around the "no more than 25% ownership by foreign investors" until his allies could garner more deregulation of the rules for him.
Fox news has been an instrument of misinformation since the 90s and this Methuselah seems to have no intention of dying any time soon; ivory tower philosophy be damned, this is the real world.
Cable news is dying. Fox benefits from targeting an older audience but it too will die or adapt.
And no one wants a CNN dad.
Ooohhhh….. now do CNN and MSNBC.
No they won't die because being network news guarantees them access and revenue despite how they perform.
Part of having exclusive broadcasting rights is the requirement to be unbiased and truthful in reporting. If you don't like it go complain to all the trash that voted for fdr and Johnson. Your side set up the rules, now you all are pissy because team r is saying play by the rules you made
No such rule. The FCC has been fighting freedom and innovation since 1927. The last thing we need to do is turn them into the Ministry of Truth.
That's why I don't vote.
I thought you registered to vote for orangefuhrer, against Kamala, because you "hate cops that much" - right?
Oh wait, that was back when you never expected Kamala to be the actual Dem candidate...
But you still drink………..
Yeah, and I'm not really being shaken down for protection money if the mob doesn't actually burn down my business.
Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg complained that Biden administration officials "would call up our team and scream at them….All these different agencies and branches of government basically just started investigating, coming after our company. It was brutal!"
Is that still happening or are we just upset about trumps words?
You are correct to point out the obvious difference between the left's ACTIONS and Trump's WORDS. One is much worse than the other, and ironically only one of those two things is protected by 1A.
That said, if someone steps up to a microphone and tells me they hate gooks, I'm going to go ahead and believe they're racist. So it would probably be a good idea not to tell everyone how much you hate free speech if that's not the impression you want us to have of you.
Still happening. The Trump admin pressured Zuck to ban an ICE sightings page. Of course it's different when Trump does it.
It’s different because one was squashing people going against the governments preferred narrative and the other was being used to target ICE (where “protestors” routinely throw bricks, rocks, water bottles and you know, occasionally shoot up their cars). You’re probably too fucking stupid to realize the latter is a direct violation of the TOS that all users agree to.
It’s different because the "free-speech rights" of rightist Timmy McVeigh was used to bomb to death, ? 90 people or so, in Oklahoma City. That's why rightists should have NO "free-speech rights"!!!
You forgot about the things that follow ice agents home and threaten their children.
Given the ICE boys' criminal behavior, my sympathy for them is limited. Reap what you sow.
This bother you be I see you don’t want any impediments to democrat terrorists, whom you aid and abet, from murdering federal offices and their families, right?
I wouldn't give a tin shit about Trump's words if they weren't mirrored in his actions. It takes willful blindness to paint Trump as a champion of free speech. If he's had only limited success in suppressing freedom, it's only because he's too lazy and incompetent to be a good dictator.
Sorry Stossel but journalists are not special and immune to libel laws, they are not doing their job of informing the public if they are propaganda mills. Too bad you see lies and propaganda and think the activist hacks behind it deserve congratulations.
Where do you see him suggesting that they deserve congratulations?
He didn't do anything of the sort. There's a lot of overreacting going on. But Stossel doesn't do himself any favors by engaging in hyperbole either.
*Trump Campaigned on Free Speech. That Isn't How He's Governed.*
Actually, it is exactly how he's governed. Which is a complete switch from his predecessor. Unfortunately, he's got the impulse control of a kindergartener, so he blurts out unbelievably stupid things that make his life much harder than it has to be.
>>Actually, it is exactly how he's governed.
word.
Saying you're going to target people over "hate speech" is not governing on free speech. If the threats are not carried out, they still have a chilling effect. A kindergartener can understand that threats by people with the power to hurt you will change behavior, even if they're empty. Put all that together and it shows that kindergarteners are smarter than red-hats. Which surprises no one.
your math is wrong.
The father's name on your birth certificate is wrong.
likely. I rock it though.
I'm glad that you accept that. Son.
Ideas!
You're right, he's just demanding no consequences for lies, libel and propaganda by the press and implied is because they're noble defenders of free speech.
What lies? What libel? Donnie's spent decades suing at the drop of a hat. He lost case after case because he was the one telling lies.
Criticism is libel. Allowing ICE sightings apps on your platform is libel. Anything Trump doesn't like is libel.
The ICE sighting app is there to put ICE officers in danger. It should be taken down.
John, John, John.
*shakes head*
You are forgetting the most important thing. Democrats did it first. Sure it was bad when they did it, but you never complained. We know this because you're complaining about Trump. By definition anyone who complains about Trump never complained about Democrats ever. That makes you a hypocrite. Now that we've established that you're a hypocrite, you have no grounds to criticize Trump. Not only that, but it means that whatever Trump does is ok because it can't be criticized. All because you're a hypocrite, you hypocrite.
Good old Sarc. Drunk as a skunk, and stuck on stupid.
dude you put the Congress shall make no law sign up and bitched about T like you're jeff
No one law has been passed limiting speech by Trump.
The left HAS been threatened with getting treated as they treat others-- but informally.
This is the problem with welcoming 'former' leftists --it is far to easy for their late brethren to pull them back into the insane thought patterns of the left.
"It's ok because Democrats did it first."
When democrats do it, it's okay - Sarc
Funny, you never complain when democrats are doing it, at all. Probably all that hypocrisy. Plus you’re a lying Marxist drunk.
Absolutely.
You leftists can't turn a thing into a crime after you use it to further your cause and expect to be taken seriously.
Trump campaigned on liberating conservatives and punishing democrats.
Exactly.
That's why he won the popular vote, the electoral vote, and every swing state.
Because America wants Democrats punished.
There's nothing remotely conservative about Donnie or his supporters. The only people he's liberating are criminals, from J6 rioters to George Santos who stole from his frequently elderly and impaired supporters.
Stossel now an enemy of MAGA.
He will be indicted soon on bullshit charges.
Doubt it. Though the Trump defenders will do their very best to cancel him. Fortunately for John he's self employed.
Nope. I don’t always agree with Stossel, but even then, he comes by his positions honestly and is principled, but you have to lie and screech like the drunken retarded idiot you are.
He’s not a filthy lying Democrat shill like you, or Sullum, Boehm and the gang.
Leftard Self-Projection ... 'Cancel culture' is a well-known product of the left.
Did you seriously believe that Trump believed in a principle? When has he done something he didn't want to do (or refrained from doing something he wanted to do) for the sake of a good principle? There are traditional Republicans/conservatives like that, but Trump is transactional.
Most of what Trump does is for the right reasons, you just hate him.
Most of what Trump does it to enrich and glorify himself. How else to explain all the glitter, gold, money wasting and grifting? He lives for flattery, power and money.
Of course you can argue that you don't care about his character and motivations because he's going to prosecute the people you don't like and (maybe) decrease your taxes while increasing the cost of imported goods. The manufacturing he shuts down due to costs of components may not impact you directly.
Really? His first presidency COST him money. Again, you just hate him.
Amd you say I like him because he’s going to do the right things as president? No shit. I didn’t vote for him so we could hang out.
And how is he wasting money relative to his predecessors? The only reason we haven’t cut more spending is because of democrats and RINO collaborators.
Who do you want to elect that would do better?
"You should be allowed to say outrageous things! You should be allowed to say contrarian things….That is the bedrock of a liberal democracy."
How about demonstrably false things? Does a society built on the virtue of its citizenry benefit or suffer when its "media" peddles lies and manipulations?
And only AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian can define for us, Truth v/s lies, and REAL "virtue", which means strict obedience, AT all times, to AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian!!!
ALL HAIL AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian!!!
So odd how this spastic weirdo is so reflexively against truth and virtue.
So odd how AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian can SNOT see that allowing-mandating that a DickTator or an AT define for us, Truth v/s lies, and REAL "virtue", is SNOT the same ass denigrating REAL Truth and Virtue!
ALL who oppose having ONLY AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian to define for us, Truth v/s lies, and REAL "virtue", oppose REAL Truth and Virtue!!! Gotcha!
Cuntclusion by ATs and udder cunts:
ALL HAIL AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian!!!
Stossel forgot to mention the massive push back bond got from all major republicans. Where was the push back from the ds?
If people can't say what they want, we don't have honest debate.
Non-sequitur. The specific crux of the problem is that people saying what they want doesn't give you honest debate either. That the opposite is, in fact, the case. It's possible to exploit free speech to voluminously and dishonestly dispel and destroy the ability to debate, even dishonestly.
c'mon now you're gonna hurt Stossel's brain.
From what i heard they were going to go after those who promote violence, not hate speech but the hateful speech that also calls for violence. big difference but then many of us don't take things out of context and understand nuances.
...because of-course; Censoring specific content is 'same, same' as pulling a "broadcasters license"! /s
...AND a party that disagrees and apologizes for threatening to pull "broadcasters license" is 'same, same' as one that doubles-down (brags and insists-more) on their censorship tactics! /s
Reminds of the Back-page case. At what point does 'free speech' hold some liability for damages? I agree with Rand & Ted that what Carr & Trump threatened was incorrect. Such decisions should be handled by the judicial branch; NOT the executive or congress beyond defamation and other laws already on the books (i.e. Certainly don't need anymore 1A impeding law).
In which INTENTION would be the biggest factor of liability for speech.
Democrats 'intentions' while censoring was to SHUT-DOWN all right-wing speech.
Hut-hum: Stossel getting cancelled by Biden's Facebook Jawboning.
The mistake here is instead of going after 3rd-parties instead of the Democrat congressmen who have their names on government-censorship documents.
i.e. You'll never get the correct answer until you get to the 'roots' of the problem spot.