Meta Removes ICE-Sightings Group After DOJ Outreach
Meta is the third tech company in two weeks to succumb to DOJ pressure to remove apps and groups used to share information on immigration officer sightings.
Meta, Facebook's parent company, is the latest tech firm the Justice Department (DOJ) has successfully pressured into removing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent-tracking content from its platforms.
On Tuesday, Attorney General Pam Bondi posted on social media that "Facebook removed a large group page that was being used to dox and target [ICE] agents in Chicago" after her agency reached out to the company. Bondi plans to "continue engaging tech companies to eliminate platforms where radicals can incite imminent violence against federal law enforcement."
The Facebook group, ICE Sighting-Chicagoland, shared information about ICE agent sightings and was growing in popularity since the beginning of "Operation Midway Blitz," the Trump administration's mass deportation campaign currently unfolding in Chicago. The page had reached nearly 80,000 members before being pulled.
Meta spokesman Francis Brennan told The New York Times that the group was removed for "violating our policies against coordinated harm." The Coordinating Harm and Promoting Crime policy at Meta bans "outing the undercover status of law enforcement, military, or security personnel."
Of course, ICE operations have been no secret, and its agents have hardly been undercover, since President Donald Trump took office. Since January, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has spent at least $51 million on an ad campaign "warning undocumented immigrants to either exit the country or be 'hunted down,'" according to The New Republic. The agency has also supersized the production of social media recruitment campaigns and flashy videos showing arrests.
The move comes just a couple of weeks after the Justice Department asked Apple and Google to remove ICE-tracking apps, like ICEBlock, from their respective app stores for "[putting] ICE agents at risk for doing their jobs," according to Bondi. But while the DHS claims that assaults against ICE officers have risen 1,000 percent, little evidence has been brought forth connecting these assaults to online tracking apps or social media groups.
Proponents of the apps and groups argue that the technology is protected speech, despite the potential for a user to use the information provided nefariously. "ICEBlock is no different from crowd-sourcing speed traps, which every notable mapping application… implements as part of its core services," ICEBlock creator Joshua Aaron told 404 Media after his app was removed from the Apple Store. "This is protected speech…we are determined to fight this with everything we have."
But private companies like Apple, Google, and Meta aren't limited in the same way as the federal government when it comes to infringing on users' speech. Many companies' user policy agreements regulate far more speech than would be permissible under the First Amendment, in part, because using these platforms is voluntary. There is even a chance these ICE-tracking apps and groups would've been taken down for violating certain policies without any prompting from the Justice Department. Regardless, it is very concerning that tech companies are being pressured to conform to the Justice Department's wishes—rather than those of their consumers, who have broken no law.
Unfortunately, Facebook users have seen this before. During the COVID-19 pandemic, the Biden administration pressured companies to censor content that questioned the pandemic's origins, something Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg says he regrets succumbing to. "I believe the government pressure was wrong, and I regret that we were not more outspoken about it," Zuckerberg wrote in an August 2024 statement. "I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any administration in either direction—and we're ready to push back if something like this happens again."
In the wake of Tuesday's events, it seems clear that Zuckerberg isn't actually ready to push back against the federal government's pressure.
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Interfering with active law enforcement investigations by assisting those being sought is a bit different than posting one’s disregard for them and the reasoning behind that. But yeah, boaf sidez it with covid.
Listing public sightings of government employees is interfering? Most transparent government ever!
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
Lmao why do you pretend to care about having a point at all? Besides, that guy ain't even shrike and thats obvious if you have a shred of style recognition.
When you have no argument, call the other guy a pedo.
He does this specifically because there was a user that, apparently, posted links to cp and got his account banned and now has a few other accounts. And because right wingers wouldnt have anything if it werent for their made up shit beliefs, they cling to their sock puppet paranoia to make sense of a very confusing world. Its all about conspiring against them, and if its only through armies of malevolent sock puppets lmao. Theyre really lost.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
Doing that with the people using the information to physically assault others isn't cool and I'm glad they took it down.
"Interfering"... in this america, corporations are exceedingly happy to comply with the requests of their govt buddies. zuckerberg was at trumps inauguration. The separation failed. liberty failed.
You guys are watching a soap opera and are naive enough to believe its a documentary
It's different when Trump does it.
I see what you did there. You are comparing how reason seemed fine with bidens doj censoring Americans until even the NYT had to admit it, but now are outraged at ever turn.
Good work shrike, pointing out your style hypocrisy.
By the way shrike. Facebook has had a no doxxing rule for ages. Before trump was in office.
Maybe you missed this?
Meta spokesman Francis Brennan told The New York Times that the group was removed for "violating our policies against coordinated harm." The Coordinating Harm and Promoting Crime policy at Meta bans "outing the undercover status of law enforcement, military, or security personnel."
Since you dont read even your own links you probably did.
An attempt by the sycophant Soros simps at a boaf sidez. Won’t be surprised if broken record sarc drops his #1 take.
Its not doxxing though. If I post on social media that there is a heavy police presence at some random intersection or neighborhood, who the f am I 'doxxing.'?
You MAGA bots can't deal with your own ingrained cognitive dissonance. It was outrage central about 'censorship' a few yrs ago around here and now... "they are fighting crime its different."
One thing potentially morally worse than fascist governments are fascist enablers and cheerleaders. So take a good look in the mirror dickhead.
Please list toyr name and address, and the name and address of your family members. Then after that let me tell violent psychos that you are literally Hitler.
Signaling your willful ignorance daily is not virtuous.
You must be very happy Trump and the GOP were elected in and the Biden democrat fascists and policies are on the outs...
What happened to "Facebook is a private company!"?
I'll say that it was wrong when Biden did it, and it's wrong that Trump is doing it, but the hypocrisy of the screeching going on is epic.
Do you really want the Government to make a case for "Aiding and Abetting a Fugitive"? That's what they are doing. Instead they asked if the Company would squash it. Then there is the whole liability bit. If an ICE agent was severely injured or killed from the posted information, do you thing that a good lawyer wouldn't go after Meta?
"The page had reached nearly 80,000 members . . . "
WOW!
A conspiracy to violate the constitutional rights of ICE agents with 80,000 members!
I wonder why Meta didn't want to be on the charge sheet.
Constitutional rights are for the government, not the little people.
* ICE can search everyone's tax records and buy personal data from data brokers. But the government has a right to privacy and anonymity from the people.
* ICE can record everyone. But if you record ICE, be prepared to be slammed and arrested.
* ICE can ram people's vehicles and tear gas them just because. But better not look at them wrong.
Tell us more how you didnt read the article and are just flailing.
Meanwhile your team censored and pushed for new policies to censor truthful covid information or saying something democrats simply didnt like.
This policy has existed for years.
He’s a pedophile, a pathological liar, and has an 87 IQ. What did you expect?
What constitutional rights of ICE thugs does this violate? You need to reference the US Constitution, not the MAGA Made Up Fascist Constitution.
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Don't expect an answer. These morons aren't capable of thinking a single rational thought. They can just regurgitate what they heard on OAN or Zuckbook.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
Holy shit, I wouldnt have thought that chumby would be such a moron. Guess rightism can rot any brain. FM isnt even spb/shrike, fuck, its so obvious.
Sadly, you actually think yourself intelligent while simultaneously proving you are a fool.
I felt myself getting stupider and stopped reading.
Same. Autumn's articles always have that effect.
“Meta, Facebook's parent company, is the latest tech firm the Justice Department (DOJ) has successfully pressured into removing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent-tracking content from its platforms.”
Though I recognize the qualitative difference between pressuring them to censor/deplatform/etc due to going against the government’s COVID narrative and doing so to keep these crazed lunatics from getting more ICE agents (or illegal immigrants in the Dallas case) killed, just no.
“Meta spokesman Francis Brennan told The New York Times that the group was removed for "violating our policies against coordinated harm." The Coordinating Harm and Promoting Crime policy at Meta bans "outing the undercover status of law enforcement, military, or security personnel."”
Oh, so the pages should have been removed anyway due to actual violations of the TOS, unlike with Covid. Nevermind.
ICE agents are running around in seal team six gear and full fatigues in the middle of one of the biggest cities in the country! They are not being 'doxxed.' They aren't even undercover. Their camouflage makes them stand out like a sore thumb.
Even the one's in street clothes are obvious because they go to great lengths to hide their identity by wearing full face coverings. Its 70degrees out and we ain't at the north pole. Which also...makes them stick out and makes their occupation very obvious. They are not deep cover DEA agents doing a coke deal with a fucking cartel. Give me a fucking break.
What's next... the fed govt going to outlaw blowing a whistle because people are using whistles to alert their neighbors that the Gestapo are in the neighborhood?? "If it saves one ICE agents life...."
Even the one's in street clothes are obvious because they go to great lengths to hide their identity by wearing full face coverings. Its 70degrees out and we ain't at the north pole.
Seriously. It should make rounding up the Antifa terrorists SO easy.
Zzz...
Build your own facebook!
The Facebook group, ICE Sighting-Chicagoland, shared information about ICE agent sightings
The relevant question is whether the group identifies or provides tools to identify the officers. If it just shows the areas of activity they should be fine. So Reason wrote an article without knowing what is actually going on?
I wouldn't assume they don't know what is actually going on. I'd assume they do know, and omitted mention because it failed to advance their narrative. That IS, after all, a consistent pattern.
Yeah, I think that's the question that needs to be answered. Law enforcement activities in public are public information and there is no good reason to stop people sharing such information.
Do ICE agents have a constitutional right to operate without clearly recognizable ICE affiliation insignia? And should they not be required to provide names and/or badge (if ICE uses badges) numbers when asked by civilians? Maybe yes, maybe no. Some states, notably California, are actively working to develop identification policies, but there would almost certainly be policy patchworks in and between states.
There is no clearly defined federal policy about this, but it seems certain that this administration would always lean heavily towards the agent safety end of the identity spectrum and away from the official transparency end. There is general agreement that ICE agents shouldn't have to identify themselves in special circumstances such as undercover work. This is acknowledged in California's new "No Vigilantes Act", which prohibits ICE agents from operating anonymously outside of the few exempted conditions.
Clearly however, the big platforms will be going along with DOJ and DHS "requests" to remove anything having to do with ICE enforcement practices. No matter how much internal disagreement there may be within the platforms about how to address the questions that are arising about database or streaming coverage of ICE and DHS operations and officers.
I quit using Facebook in 2013, although at the time FB more or less required a court order to remove my data. I've never used Twitter or any of the other platforms created, engulfed, and devoured by Meta over the years. I've un-googled all my devices to the best of my ability. So I don't much care about why Zuckerberg does what he does.
But we've been told over and over again that the cure for information overload syndrome is--wait for it--more information. So the young people who are really interested in official transparency will find new and creative ways to obtain and disseminate information about ICE, its operations, its people. Currently ICE claims to be protecting most of us from dangerous strangers, but ICE works for us, is accountable to us, we taxpayers. We should be able to learn for ourselves what their strategies and tactics are, and how their cost/benefit calculations translate into things like their use of masks and heavy duty tactical get-ups.
"ICEBlock is no different from crowd-sourcing speed traps, which every notable mapping application… implements as part of its core services,"
Crowd-sourcing speed traps doesn't result in gangs (and now cartel bounties) targeting the officers for murder in broad daylight.
Further, crowd-sourcing speed traps doesn't openly encourage illegal activity. It just tells you where to watch your speed so you don't get caught. You can't "watch your speed" being an illegal alien border jumping scumbag. If you're an illegal alien border jumping scumbag, you're one 100% of the time.
They need to be removed from civilized society. And at this point, I'm 100% fine with removing their enablers while we're at it.
"This is protected speech…we are determined to fight this with everything we have."
Would you support a HeyICE! app on the same grounds? Basically a crowd-sourced mapping application where good, decent American folk can pinpoint suspected illegals to bring to ICE's attention for quick roundup?
And before you jump to use the n-word, keep in mind that most of the ICEBlock supporters are also the same people who supported narcing out the unvaxxed and the unmasked during the scamdemic.
It's kinda like they're all hypocrites 100% of the time, rationalizing moral relativity based on partisanship.
Would you support a HeyICE! app
They could offer cash rewards for leads resulting in successful captures.
Stop stealing my ideas. I've been advocating rewards for information leading to the capture/deportation of illegals since 2008.
Nah, it's cool, I'll share. Whatever gets the Crimestoppers Hotline started again.
There's gonna be a lotta collateral damage for you guys to enjoy, such as minors getting deported from their families. I'm sure there will be some merch for you guys on stormfaghardons.fag, such as cups with the ICE emblem printed on them or slogans like "dont want em deported? Dont bring em here"
Nobody enjoys seeing minors get deported from their families.
We do ask why the families don't accompany them though. Kinda messed up when they don't.
"Dad, I'm being deported."
"That's terrible! I'm so upset. But, bye I guess."
"....."
I don't know what kinda sitcoms you watch, but that ain't funny. That's more of a "Wow, you are a truly horrible parent" kinda thing.
But, I mean, what kind of parenting do you expect from the kinds of people we're talking about here? They love their American handouts more than they love their kids.
Do some reflection on that, if you wouldn't mind.
I'm having a bit of trouble envisioning this scenario where the minor gets deported, and the adults in the family don't. If Americans have kids, those kids are automatically citizens, after all.
Somebody adopted an illegal alien, I guess?
I don't know. I'm guessing 5.56 just makes up these sob stories out of whole cloth because he doesn't have an actual argument.
Alex "AJ" Wise was a minor.
If a minor child is deported their parents will be deported as well. If their parents are not with them then the issue is moot.