Donald Trump Is the Coal President
Just as Biden’s preference for renewables distorted markets and harmed consumers, so too does Trump’s bias toward coal.
Coal—the dominant fuel in the U.S., before it was steadily replaced by cheaper and cleaner energy sources—has found new life under President Donald Trump. In April, Trump issued an executive order to reinvigorate "America's Beautiful Clean Coal Industry," which directed federal agencies to remove regulatory barriers to coal production and coal mining on federal lands.
Since then, the Energy Department has opened up federal financing opportunities for coal production (which include a $200 billion fund at the agency's Loan Programs Office), designated coal as a critical material (which allows it to receive more federal funding), and reinstated a federal coal advisory committee that had lapsed.
The Interior Department, meanwhile, has fast-tracked fossil fuel and coal projects on federal lands. Earlier this year, the agency officially ended a moratorium on federal coal leasing, and in August it approved a plan that will make 14.5 million tons of coal available for mining in Wyoming through 2037. The agency has also implemented rules making it harder to permit renewable energy projects on federal lands.
Congress has also made it easier for coal to succeed. The One Big Beautiful Bill Act reduced royalty rates for coal projects on federal lands and mandated that more federal acres be opened up to coal production. The bill also subsidizes foreign steelmaking by giving a tax break to the type of coal used in this production.
The change in coal's fortune is remarkable given how it fared under the Biden administration. In addition to calling for coal plants across the U.S. to be shut down and replaced by renewables, former President Joe Biden also finalized strict air pollution regulations that would have increased costs and closed fossil-fueled power plants nationwide. The Trump administration began rescinding these regulations in June.
Just as Biden's preference for renewables distorted markets and harmed consumers, so too does Trump's bias toward coal. In May, the Energy Department ordered the Midcontinent Independent System Operator—which oversees most of the power grid from Minnesota to Louisiana—to keep a Michigan coal plant open through the summer to avoid rolling blackouts. The plant was scheduled to close that month.
In addition to not preventing outages, the order ended up costing the utility $29 million over five weeks, reports E&E News. Consumers Energy, which runs the plant, is seeking "cost recovery" from federal regulators, which would "allow the costs to be spread over millions of electricity customers," per E&E.
The U.S. needs more energy generation and is facing a capacity shortfall that could lead to future blackouts and rate hikes. But this shortfall is largely a result of bad government policies, such as federal regulations that delay nuclear power, and politicians picking energy winners and losers. Trump risks repeating the mistakes of past presidents. Coal companies might benefit, but ratepayers, markets, and the environment will be left worse off.
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This is spoiled-brat POTUS the DOPUS doing "rolling coal" for attention, and to "pwn the libs", mostly. SNOT for practical reasons, for the most part!!!
If ye haven't heard of "rolling coal", then here ya go, AI Perplexity summarized it for me...
Rolling coal is the deliberate act of modifying a diesel engine or truck to emit large clouds of black or gray exhaust smoke, often as a form of protest or attention-seeking behavior.[2][3][5]
### How Rolling Coal Works
This effect is produced by adjusting the engine to take in more fuel than can burn efficiently, often by removing emissions controls, installing special switches, or using oversized fuel injectors. The result is excessive soot and particulates released from the exhaust. These modifications can cost from a few hundred to several thousand dollars and often damage the engine over time by increasing wear and reducing fuel efficiency.[5][6][8][2]
### Social and Legal Context
Rolling coal is sometimes done as a form of protest against environmentalism or to cause a nuisance, especially targeting cyclists, pedestrians, and hybrid cars. In many regions, these modifications violate local or federal air quality laws and emissions standards, making the practice illegal. Enforcement of anti-coal rolling laws can be challenging because the modifications are often designed to be easily switched on or off.[6][7][8][2][5]
### Environmental and Health Impact
Coal rolling produces high levels of pollution, contributing to respiratory illnesses and environmental degradation. It also impairs road visibility, increasing the risk for accidents and further public safety concerns.[2][6]
In essence, rolling coal is a hazardous and generally illegal vehicle modification meant to produce dramatic plumes of exhaust for effect, protest, or mischief.[5][6][2]
[1](https://www.reddit.com/r/florida/comments/14kp2ux/can_someone_explain_like_im_five_the_point_of/)
[2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal)
etc. ...
I can understand seeing it that way, but I think that's mostly an artifact of HyR's couching Trump as much less libertarian than he actually is, making it look like he has a coal fetish.
Sqrlsy's an idiot. He's trying to form metonymy from allusion.
Trump "directed federal agencies to remove regulatory barriers to coal production and coal mining on federal lands", and offered federal loans at reasonable rates for companies that were locked out by the Blackrock banking mafia.
How that is the same as modifying a diesel engine to deliberately emit large amounts of soot, only makes sense to him.
SSqrlsy does nazi the difference, though a schizophrenic with long TDS unlikely would.
Ask him if he plans to trick or treat as Stormy Daniels again this Halloween.
"The bill also subsidizes foreign steelmaking by giving a tax break to the type of coal used in this production."
Only a "team R" psycho-sicko-phant would praise Dear Leader for trying to use tariff-taxes to protect US steel companies, and then turn right around and reward and incentivize foreign steel-making with US tax dollar-incentives! Government Almighty giveth, and Government Almighty taketh away, butt Marxist Moose-Mammary-Necrophiliac ALWAYS praises Government Almighty... ***IF*** Government Almighty is of the RIGHT team!
Did the gay box say something?
Just his regular name-calling copypasta because he can't win arguments.
The only victory SSqrlsy has won was against sanity.
And uneaten turds.
You really don't get that? Coal rolling is the trucker's fuck-you to environmentalists and who knows whom else, and SQRLSY is saying Trump is being similarly performative here. Plausible, but I doubt/
Why would taking the government's boot off the coal industry's neck be the equivalent? The deliberate destruction of the coal industry beggared millions of people. There's a hundred thousand other reasons to take off the punitive regulations before thumbing one's nose at Greta Thunberg.
I stand by my contention that Shillsy's a retard.
Why hasn’t SQRLSY been put down yet? It isn’t human, or even a real living thing, at least according to biological norms.
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I cannot help but laugh anytime I see someone reference Trump as any degree of libertarian.
Compare what he's done to the average president of the past century, and how can you not see that?
Open your eyes. He's the most authoritarian, power grabbing president in US history. We're living in a historic time:
Stolen election narrative with riot/fake electors, troops in the streets, the biggest tax hike in recent history done without congress, killing civilians in international waters with no due process, shuffling illegal immigrants to a foreign prison with no due process, the enemy within narrative, countless executive orders and countless "emergencies" "requiring" emergency powers, battle with the judiciary, firing should-be nonpartisan bureaucrats for insufficient loyalty, trying to manipulate the fed, manipulating universities' curricula, bombing Iran, saber rattling for regime change in Venezueala, turning the power of the government against states that didn't support him...I could go on.
I get that some people just want a red Caesar as a final solution to owning the libs, but wake the fuck up, this is in NO WAY libertarian! How can you not see that?
He’s only the most authoritarian power grabbing president according to DNC narratives. And you LOVE DNC narratives.
We just went through four years of Biden being puppeteered by a bunch of Soros worshipping Leninites. But you loved that, didn’t you?
Go back to WaPo. You have nothing of substance to offer here.
Open YOUR eyes. Trump is FIGHTING the most authoritarian, power-grabbing ENEMY in US history. We are indeed living in a historic time.
I too may cringe when I see and hear some of the things he says and does, but it seems more and more to me that violent and corrupt globalist fascism is in fact a real national emergency in itself, if ever there was one , so sue me if I hold my nose and wish him success.
I get that some people want an endless stream of establishment presidents as a final solution to icky, icky conservatives, but wake the fuck up, there is NO FUCKING WAY that will ever result in more libertarian government. How can you not see that?
Trump is FIGHTING the most authoritarian, power-grabbing ENEMY in US history.
Indeed, but he's fighting fire with gasoline. Everything they've done, he continues and expands while eroding even more.
"but it seems more and more to me that violent and corrupt globalist fascism is in fact a real national emergency in itself, if ever there was one , so sue me if I hold my nose and wish him success."
When the populace thinks this way, republics die. If you are conscious that you are hastening the demise of the republic, constitutional protections from the state and wish for an autocrat to deliver your preferred state and force it on the rest of us, so be it. But don't blow smoke up my ass that this is trending toward libertarianism.
I don't want the same establishment and am under no misconception that that would lead to libertarianism, but you present a false dichotomy and put words in my mouth. Do you think a president Ron Paul or Thomas Massie or even Rand Paul would look anything like this?
Hold your your nose and surrender your rights and hope for limited government so red Caesar can deliver your socially conservative police state in a post constitutional, post republic future or a backlash that will put the establishment creep in hyper-drive. But if you don't think you're surrendering those conservative principles, WAKE UP!
"Do you think a president Ron Paul or Thomas Massie or even Rand Paul would look anything like this?"
Of course not! Those authoritarian, power-grabbing globalist fascist motherfuckers we are fighting would NEVER even give us that choice. Where have you been? Those same motherfuckers made damn certain we had Trump vs HRC to choose between in 2016 because they couldn't imagine she could lose to him. They figured they had it in the bag, but they failed, thank God, or we would have had the Most Corrupt Woman in the History of the World as president in 2016 and I can't EVEN imagine where we'd be right now.
The republic can and will survive Trump. The "socially conservative police state" you imagine Trump wishes for the country is your own paranoid delusion. Shadow projection is dangerous, WAKE UP!
Yes, go on, because the points you just made are utter horseshit copypasted from the latest Media Matters missive.
In fact 3/4s of that is what the Biden junta did, not Trump. These parts are particularly egregious: "Stolen election narrative with riot/fake electors, troops in the streets... the enemy within narrative, countless executive orders and countless "emergencies" "requiring" emergency powers, battle with the judiciary... manipulating universities' curricula, bombing Iran, saber rattling for regime change in Venezuela, turning the power of the government against states that didn't support him..."
I mean what the fuck, talk about projection. After four years of being told Hillary was robbed, we had another four where publicly pondering where the magical 20 million 3am voters came from got you kicked off the internet by a regime who was actually illegally censoring the internet.
Then the Dems had the streets of DC patrolled by the National guard following the J6 FBI action not because of rampant actual crime, but because of political thought crime.
Then Biden gave his famous red speech where he called half the voters dangers to democracy, and kicked off the biggest illegal spying campaign in US history, against hundreds of thousands of American Catholics, PTA parents, rogue virologists, well known journalists and rogue Republican and Democratic Party congressmen. And to put the cherry on top kicked off the biggest illegal censorship campaign in American history which censored millions.
A good chunk (probably the majority) of Trump's executive orders have been overriding particularly egregious previous EAs like the ones that created USAID, and shuttered the coal industry, and banned offshore and public land drilling, and shutdown the Keystone, and forced Title 9 violations, and ruined the military, ad nauseam.
As for "saber rattling for regime change", good thing no other president, except all of them, ever did that. Also, I'm old enough to remember Trump's last term when he started WW3 by calling Kim Jong Un "rocket man", and killing an Iranian terrorist and insulting Putin (who he was also taking orders from", and dumping goldfish food in a Japanese pond (which was a diplomatic crisis somehow, even though he was copying the Nippon PM).
I guess Jesse was right about you.
Their silence of their rebuttal is deafening
Stolen election narrative with riot/fake electors (was it stolen? Not in a 3rd world sense. Was something done to help Pudding Pop along? It seems pretty obvious given the bout of overturned elections afterwards due to shitty mail in practices and obvious fraud like that illegal Superintendent who was registered to vote in Maryland or wherever. You can’t really blame him for the riot. And it wasn’t even the first time that someone had a separate slate of electors. None of which are examples of authoritarianism),
troops in the streets (except for DC, as far as I’ve seen they’ve been deployed to defend and support ICE in their duties, none of which would be necessary if Democrats weren’t actively supporting the people attacking them),
the biggest tax hike in recent history done without congress (tariffs can’t simultaneously be useless for revenue generation AND be the largest tax hike in history, and unfortunately the emergency act he cited is so over broadly written that his argument for being able to do is not completely without merit),
killing civilians in international waters with no due process (between the WoD and the WoT, I’m not sure there’s much point arguing if those actions are allowed or not, though I disagree with them),
shuffling illegal immigrants to a foreign prison with no due process (if I’m not mistaken, it turned out we weren’t sending them to prison, the “host” country was. maybe that’s some backass plausible deniability, since the outcome was the same, but I’m hard pressed to care about the fates of human traffickers and repeat deportation offenders),
the enemy within narrative (if you don’t think leftist are an existential threat to Western Civilization in general, we’ll just have to agree to disagree there. Though old note we’ve been on that particular bender for going on 10 years, at least),
countless executive orders and countless "emergencies" "requiring" emergency powers, battle with the judiciary, firing should-be nonpartisan bureaucrats for insufficient loyalty (many of those orders have been to stop the bleeding out in place by prior admins and many, if not most, explicitly state “within the law” or “in accordance with the Constitution” or some variation. I’ll give you the declaring emergencies to get around some of the road blocks, that shit needs to stop. Battles with the Judiciary is because lower courts are stepping way outside their lane on a lot of the things he’s doing. I disagree, many of those people being fired should have been years, if not decades ago. Imagine if he had cleaned house last time with the likes of Fauci, etc.),
trying to manipulate the fed, manipulating universities' curricula, bombing Iran, saber rattling for regime change in Venezueala, turning the power of the government against states that didn't support him...I could go on (none of which is new, except maybe the players).
All of that to say, I agree with some of the stuff he’s done, I disagree with some of the stuff he’s done, but to think he’s “the most authoritarian, power-grabbing President in US History” is so woefully inaccurate, that I literally can’t even.*
*Mostly because, while we may disagree with his interpretation or use of the tools he’s been handed, almost all of the things you’ve mentioned were delegated to the President over the last 100+ years, were written so vaguely that it really is in the eye of the beholder, or powers his predecessors took unto themselves and weren’t immediately bitch slapped for, thus cementing them for use by future Presidents.
I appreciate all of you that responded (and others) for your attention and responses.
Hopefully it's just a flare up of my TDS and I'm delusional and wrong. I wont convince you and you wont convince me. I've said all I care to say for now.
Good. Fuck off and die, lying pile of TDS-addled slimy shit.
Stuff your TDS up your ass, QB. Your head is begging for some company there.
I cannot help but laugh anytime I see someone reference Will Nonya as possessor of more than one brain cell.
I'm good with leaning on fossil fuels while getting nuclear plants online and developing even better sources. If that isn't part of the plan then I'll agree Trump is in the wrong. Even then his actions are better than subsidizing wind and solar in what often looked like money laundering.
Agreed. The article doesn't mention it but Trump has also signed some EO's (the man Loves his EO's) to reduce regulatory barriers at the federal level in the nuclear industry, which even some environmentalists (not enough) now agree is the best path forward, and is much needed.
I don’t take anyone seriously that simultaneously believes in reducing carbon emissions and stopping nuclear reactors from being built.
We need at least two hundred new reactors over the next twenty years. And we will have much more innovation with people like Trump in charge. Democrats will just use any their ‘green initiatives’ as a slush fund to reward their allies. Just like they do with everything else.
Cleaner? Probably. Cheaper? Not obvious from the facts in evidence. Far too much government interference in the markets over the decades to tell.
I want a nuker president. Cheap, abundant, reliable, zero emissions, and if Canada acts up, we can fire up a few centrifuges and send her back to First Nations times.
Carter?
Was it over when Carter nuked Canada?
Forget it. He's rolling.
He didn’t drive a wooden stake, carved from a maple tree, through Canada’s heart. So he didn’t finish the job.
Donald Trump Is the Coal President
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So it's not so much that Trump is specifically the coal President as much as it is that Trump is a pro-(domestic)-energy President and anti-regulatory President and Reason Magazine is just a really, really, REALLY shitty source of information that's *still* "reluctantly and strategically" defending the Biden Administration's shitty "We're not coming for your gas stoves (We're coming for your gas stoves for your own good)." authoritarianism.
That's how I see it too. The article lays out mostly deregulatory moves, but, highlighting a few actual subsidies, casts it as "the same as" Biden. HyR manages to make the most libertarian administration in my lifetime, better than Reagan, appear relatively authoritarian because they rock some Reason hobby horses the wrong way.
They can pry my gas stove out of my cold dead hands.
Pretty sure they would be hot dead hands, but I agree with the sentiment.
"...So it's not so much that Trump is specifically the coal President as much as it is that Trump is a pro-(domestic)-energy President and anti-regulatory President and Reason Magazine is just a really, really, REALLY shitty source of information that's *still* "reluctantly and strategically" defending the Biden Administration's shitty "We're not coming for your gas stoves (We're coming for your gas stoves for your own good)." authoritarianism..."
And Reason (like the UN and that grease-ball Newsom) are now firmly behind the curve.
Fo near 50 years, we've been handed a pile of BS wherein 'renewable' energy sources would replace consumables. Has not happened, cannot happen; the sun shines some portion of most days, the wind blows now and then, and when I get up in the morning, I expect to flip what switch, get some light and hear the coffee start brewing.
That takes fossil fuels, PERIOD. End of story.
Trump is willing to accept that while Luse, being the head-up-his-ass watermelon still hopes the unicorns fart on him.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Trump has donors and buddies in the coal business. It’s plain old crony capitalism.
Coal plants release more radioactive material to the environment than nuclear plants. It is because all coal has trace amounts of Uranium and Thorium.
So.............
what?
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
Yikes. Ease up a little, Sevo. This is the LORD'S day. You can be shitty the other 6 days of the week.
Poor sarc
"...Ease up a little, Sevo..."
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
You’re an atheist. So your theological opinions don’t count.
Now do rare earths, cobalt, and the non-recyclable wind turbines and solar cells. And while you're at it, don't forget bananas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose
No, it's because of 14C.
Coal started dying because of fracking. Then solar got insanely cheap (even without subsidies). Coal has no future even with Trump's subsidies. Trump can keep the coal plants open for a few more years but he's just delaying the inevitable.
Keep in mind red states have been leading in solar & wind. States that actually let you build shit. With battery storage exploding, they actually become reliable - an example of free markets solving problems.
"...With battery storage exploding,...
Finally, the lefty pile of steaming shit posts something that isn't a lie: Yes, they are exploding and burning and polluting in huge amounts!
They are HORRIBLE, and they are on track to follow the same lies which promised 'clean energy' (and didn't) to address a non-existent 'problem'.
Sevo - I'm only helping because I like you and you're my best friend, but you completely misread his comment. He meant "exploding" in capacity (key word "storage"), not literally. It's like they taught us in grade school - Read and Understand Before I Comment, or 'RUBIC', for short. You remember, right?
The Retarded Dude (who's Dumber Than a Bag of Rocks)
Fuck off and die.
Sadly, they never listen.
^ Peak retardation on display. The chemistry they use for grid storage doesn't burn easily. Even EVs are phasing out the old lithium ion chemistry that burns out of control.
^ Fantasies from easily deluded pile of slimy lying lefty shit.
Luckily, industry isnt as stupid as you fucking retarded troglodytes. Fuck off and die asshole, let the world become a better place.
"Luckily, industry isnt as stupid as you fucking retarded troglodytes."
That mirror is really uncomfortable, ain't it, slimy pile of lying lefty shit?
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
BTW, asswipe, when is the rapture scheduled?
Insanely cheap is right, because it's all a pack of lies.
Don't dwell in the morass of ignorance. It's not a good place to be. Have a little self-respect and educate yourself. Outside of Truth Social.
Don't dwell in the morass of invisible smug superiority. Have a little self-respect and edumacate the ignorant masses. Outside of Bluesky and Hahvahd.
Lol, touche. Def. not a Bluesky or Twitter guy though. Or Harvard for that matter.
Or grammar school. Fuck off and die.
Often quite literally...
https://storagewiki.epri.com/index.php/BESS_Failure_Incident_Database
Clean coal technology, along with other clean fossil fuel technologies, absolutely exist now and are profitable. Unlike most renewables that require “carbon credits” and other government market manipulations to appear profitable. And that further require cooked models that show how renewables will eventually be profitable “one day”. Sound familiar? There’s a reason the gov had to sell the threat of “climate change” along with their schemes to subsidize their friends in the renewable sector. Anyone remember Solyndra?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra
Equating DJT directing “federal agencies to remove regulatory barriers to coal production and coal mining on federal lands” with government picking and choosing winners. Brilliant libertarian analysis guys. What’s next, an article explaining how the California Air Resources Board’s (CARB) Cap-and-Trade Program is free market hero Gavin Newsom’s solution to saving the earth?
Gotta justify that TDS somehow!
Next time your right-TDS reflexively kicks in to defend Saint Trump, please, try to remember that industrial policy IS central planning and is not libertarian.
Yes, removing regulations is "central planning''; what a pathetic asswipe.
Next time, as a TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit, you try to claim false equivalence, we'll all keep in mind that you are a TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit.
Yes, adding new regulations is the way to reduce regulations.
Were you born this stupid. or did it take many years of drooling to get there?
“Not taking is giving”, I see now. Very Libertarian.
I don't know who you think you are quoting, but taking sure isn't giving.
A while back we had a guy named Tony who said that tax breaks are gifts and cutting subsidies amounts to theft. As in not taking is giving, and not giving is taking.
You mean Tony, who is a postmodernist relativist, and now goes by the sock MollyGodiva? The same Molly who actually made you gasp over his/her stupidity?
"I don't know who you think you are quoting, but taking sure isn't giving."
He's quoting you, the brain-dead shitpile.
Solar and wind need conventional power plants to make up their capacity for times when the wind isn’t blowing or the sun isn’t shining. Iberia’s grid didn’t have much inertia when things began to cascade.
Coal plants should receive similar regulatory treatment as do the subsidized green energy facilities.
Nuclear is literally required as well to keep California’s renewable schemes afloat, although the watermelons fought it as long as they possibly could, +1 day:
https://www.pge.com/en/newsroom/currents/future-of-energy/diablo-canyon-enters-full-extended-operations-.html
Nuclear power plants emit water vapor, a greenhouse gas (GHG).
Iberia’s grid didn’t have much inertia when things began to cascade
Had to comment that this very real concern with over penetration of renewables has been hand shrugged away for years in CA, because “virtual inertia” technologies will be available any day now for sure:
https://dynapower.com/resource/advanced-smart-inverters/
For home solar, the backup can include batteries, being grid tied, and a small backup gas generator. These aren’t options for large scale.
Physical inertia isn't necessary. Batteries can easily follow load. As the rest of the world switches to wind, solar, and batteries, you chumps will still be whining about how it doesn't work.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
"Physical inertia isn't necessary. Batteries can easily follow load. As the rest of the world switches to wind, solar, and batteries, you chumps will still be whining about how it doesn't work."
You write as if you might be in middle school, but your abysmal imbecility says otherwise.
No one is as yet relying on any of that claptrap, and you are too fucking stupid to realize that.
Physical inertia isn't necessary. Batteries can easily follow load.
“Physics does whatever I says it does”
Congrats on being Humpty Dumpty’s stupider sibling.
The newest fantasy in the watermelon's world is 'dynamic batteries'!
Shrike understands physics as well as he understands age of consent laws.
All batteries are dynamic, you fucking dumbshit. They deliver power when you press a button, flip a switch or do any other 'dynamic' thing. Pull your head out of your ass and read a general chemistry book, asshole.
Yes, and fucking dumbfucks like you assume your definition (which is worthless) matters.
Fuck off and die, imbecilic asswipe.
BTW, still waiting for the date of the rapture, assholic piece of ignorant shit.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html
Here's a place for you to start educating yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_frequency
Have you no faith in Capitalism?
Go google "battery grid leveling economics"
We have "faith" that slimy piles of TDS-addled shit like you will spout bullshit like this.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
1. The climate is changing at a rate within historical limits, certainly slowly enough that humanity will have no trouble adapting for any foreseeable future.
2. While all change is propagandized as harmful, the increase in CO^2 is actually beneficial in that it increases plant growth.
3. We cannot, with certainty, attribute change to human activity.
4. If we could instantly stop the generation of GHGs, no one has yet shown that we would find a measurable effect on temperature change in the next century.
We have been hearing WOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the past 50 years; it's not. It's a small puppy.
Read:
“Unsettled”, Steven Koonin
“Apocalypse Never”, Michael Shellenberger
“Climate Uncertainty and Risk”, Judith Curry
“Fossil Future”, Alex Epstein
“Power Hungry”, Robert Bryce
“False Alarm”, Bjorn Lomborg
And get ahead of the curve.
I think your analysis is pretty reasonable. And I particularly echo your feelings about crying wolf. Here's a tiny sampling of what we've been told by the Mt Rushmore of climate alarmism in recent years:
-In 2009, Al Gore told us there was a 75% chance the entire north polar ice cap could be completely ice-free during summer months within the next five to seven years (i.e. 2014-2016). Probably also worth noting the UK banned his "documentary" from public schools unless it was preceded by a list of the nine major factual errors and a disclaimer that it was a partisan work, not a documentary.
-Also in 2009, John Kerry, who was for global warming before he was against it, stated on the Senate floor: "You have sea ice which is melting at a rate that the Arctic Ocean now increasingly is exposed. In five years, scientists predict we will have the first ice-free Arctic summer. " This would have meant an ice-free Arctic by 2014. Stick to marrying ketchup queens, you horsefaced hack.
-In 2019, AOC declared global warming would "destroy the planet" in a dozen years if humans didn't take drastic measures to address climate change. It's not 2031 yet, but I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on that one in advance. Also, make me a sandwich.
-And let's not leave the media out of this. ABC "News" ran a special in 2009 called "Earth 2100". It included numerous false predictions, my favorite being that New York City would be underwater by 2015. The special featured "experts" warning that in 2015 the sea level would rise quickly, with an on-screen graphic showing New York City being engulfed by water.
To my knowledge, none of the aforementioned people have been driven out of the movement. In fact, most have become quite wealthy while the greenies hold them up as new religious leaders. Which is fitting, since climate catastrophism is clearly a cult.
"Which is fitting, since climate catastrophism is clearly a cult."
+1
Al stands around 6'3 on the Climate Cult Scale, Steve Wright is an honest ten footer-
The only sincere way to make the major leagues of bogosity in the climate wars is to go through life without setting foot in a science library, or passing a geophysics course.
"The only sincere way to make the major leagues of bogosity in the climate wars is to go through life without setting foot in a science library, or passing a geophysics course."
Read ALL of these and get back to us, shit-for-brains watermelon.
“Unsettled”, Steven Koonin
“Apocalypse Never”, Michael Shellenberger
“Climate Uncertainty and Risk”, Judith Curry
“Fossil Future”, Alex Epstein
“Power Hungry”, Robert Bryce
“False Alarm”, Bjorn Lomborg
Or keep getting your information from "Parade" magazine.
I told you Peanuts that Drill Baby Drill was just more of Donnie's bullshit:
Trump Promised to ‘Drill, Baby, Drill.’ The New Rigs Are Nowhere to Be Found
With clean energy more cost-competitive than it once was, the White House’s oil-first strategy is faltering.
...
There is one key indicator of drilling levels that the industry has watched closely for more than 80 years: a weekly census of active oil and gas rigs published by Baker Hughes. When Trump came into office on Janunary 20, the US rig count was 580. Last week, the most recent figure, it was down to 542—hovering just above a four-year low reached earlier in the month.
Wired.
US Production is lower for two straight quarters.
#FatassDonnieLies
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
You mean opening federal land for lease doesn't mean it is automagically used? He should issue an executive order commanding oil companies to drill. You know, like a true autocrat.
You know that but our resident Trump-Tards are sorely deficient regarding market economic knowledge.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
They are willfully ignorant. And it must take a lot of will, considering how much common market economic knowledge is put out there in the articles and in comments by people who aren't part of their cult.
The amount of projection dripping off this comment is stunning.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
The last oil lease auction in Alaska got no bidders.
"Trump issued an executive order... which directed federal agencies to remove regulatory barriers to coal production and coal mining on federal lands."
"the Energy Department has opened up federal financing opportunities for coal production" (Necessary because the Blackrock banking lockout for fossil fuels is real)
"The Interior Department, meanwhile, has fast-tracked fossil fuel and coal projects on federal lands. Earlier this year, the agency officially ended a moratorium on federal coal leasing, and in August it approved a plan that will make 14.5 million tons of coal available for mining in Wyoming through 2037"
"reduced royalty rates for coal projects on federal lands and mandated that more federal acres be opened up to coal production
NOW WAIT FOR IT:
Just as Biden's preference for renewables distorted markets and harmed consumers, so too does Trump's bias toward coal.
So Trump removed regulations, streamlined permitting, opened financing and ended government barriers.
That's totally exactly the same thing as Biden adding regulations, ending permitting, blocking loans and creating government barriers intended to crater and end the entire industry.
What an unlibertarian monster Trump is.
It's not the rampant gaslighting I mind, so much as the sheer stupidity of the argument and the fact it's presented in an ostensibly libertarian magazine.
There is a progressive Biden apologist on the luse in Reason’s editorial room.
To be fair that's all of them.
The only writers here that seem somewhat unaffected include Wolfe, Stossel, and Skenazy, oh, and Rommelman when you see her here (which hasn't been for a while). Soave sees the light from time to time, but he's about the limit. Others are so given to TDS and Biden apology as to be ridiculous, staring with Sullum, Boehm, and Welch.
I'm a little disappointed in you this morning, Chumby. I was expecting more Coal Porter and Nat King Coal. At the very least Gary Coal and something about TPS reports. You're slipping, bro. Bring the heat.
Sometimes Anything Goes.
If any administration had a coal President, you would think it was the one from Scranton that produced coke as a byproduct.
There should be a COALition for reliable energy sources.
There's a Hunter joke in there somewhere.
Given their arguments here, it seems Reason authors actually have no idea whatsoever what free markets even look like anymore and wouldn't know one if it punched them in the face. So much for their byline, 'Free Minds and Free Markets' eh?
Reducing regulation puts us closer to free trade than any of the actions Biden took, which all took us further away from a free market.
Of course, a totally free market still does not exist but it's patently obvious which direction this takes us. Complaining about this means Reason, or at least this one author, does not want free markets and instead prefers managed markets.
I honestly don't know why I even come here anymore, but I guess it's still marginally better than MS NOW(the station, not the disease, although I guess it's true either way).
We come here for each other, because there's no better assembly yet. That one they formed a decade ago turned out to be a bunch of flakes.
The best time for this was about 30 years ago.
Reducing regulation
Federal financing, federal funding, fast-tracking, reducing royalties, tax breaks...
I honestly don't know why I even come here anymore
So you can have your daily two minutes of hate with your MAGA buddies?
What's your complaint about those last 3 items?
Unless it's being done across the board it is picking winners and losers.
And just who is picking winners and losers, Sarc?
A bear in a trunk using a shared collectivist reasoning.
Bears don’t ride in trunks anymore, they use mass transit instead.
They were tired of being used as pawns in a MAGA culture war.
Distorting the market towards being *cheaper* though.
And a energy source with actual history of success behind it.
Also; "In May, the Energy Department ordered the Midcontinent Independent System Operator to keep a Michigan coal plant open through the summer to avoid rolling blackouts.
The monsters. Joe and Whitmer had ordered those shut down. But now their orders are being flouted, just so the grid doesn't collapse and some spoiled Americans can eat ice cream and plug in their Teslas.
Thank goodness libertarians like Jeff Luse are here to tut-tut about such fascist measures.
Libertopia is the Iberian peninsula during the blackout. Also, rapefugees.
If they could harness the energy from all the gaslighting regarding who has ordered the shutdown and subsequent reopening of fossil plants in this country, we’d be out of our energy crunch.
I’ll try to make it simple:
1. Team Blue, under pressure from their watermelon supporters, order the shutdown of “non renewable” generation. This of course includes coal, nuclear, and gas plants. This also includes hydro generation, although most people don’t realize that hydro is on the greenies’ axe list as well.
2. Regulators order them to keep them running, because if said Team Blue areas fuck up bad enough with their grids, it’ll take out their neighbors as well. As in blacking out up to 1/3 of North America, if they fuck up bad enough.
Still trying to figure out the disdain for nuclear. Or why it isn't considered green energy. No carbon emissions, cheap, abundant, can provide all the power we will need forever.
It's almost like their problem isn't environmental, they just don't like people having abundance and comfort.
One word: waste.
Nuclear waste is easy to deal with and even potentially useful. And, we have new technology like LFTR (lifter, AKA liquid thorium-fluoride reactors) that don't even generate the potentially dangerous waste. Yet, they are still against it. Most people don't understand radiation very well at all - it just 'sounds' scary to them.
Did you know that if you put a bar of weapons-grade plutonium at the bottom of a 12-foot deep pool of water, you could swim at the surface without being irradiated?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYxlpeJEKmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaEdDaFVKH4
I was not making an argument; I was answering your question. I am 100% pro nuclear power.
And yet, you decided to come up with a silly one-word answer because you believe Minadin is one of your "mean girls". Minadin did not pose a question for you to answer.
Eh, I kinda left it open.
Me too and the Governor of New York is getting pushback for wanting a new one in upstate NY.
Yes, when we had a consummate pro and dedicated public servant like Sam “luggage thief” Brinton in charge of nuclear waste we could rest assured that it was being handled properly.
Now, who knows? Is our top nuclear waste official even trans or diverse in any way?
These are the most important things. No chicks in charge, tho. Just fake chicks.
"...Still trying to figure out the disdain for nuclear..."
We're dealing with religious convictions here; atoms are icky!
It's almost like their problem isn't environmental, they just don't like people having abundance and comfort.
Not almost.
Remember when Ron Bailey let the mask slip and said (paraphrased), "With cultured meat we'd be able to return all the ranch land to nature."? Not even the glimmer of conception that much of the land was in as natural a state as it had ever been that it would be up to the property owners to do with as they pleased and that if food and energy become more cheap, abundant and available, housing would be more profitable than fallowing the land. And this is Ron Bailey, a "science reporter" who had supposedly grown up on a family dairy farm and should've known that nutrient and power supplies for cell culture baths are still going to have to come from *somewhere*.
Yes, the totally bogus "natural"/"un-natural" dichotomy.
Man is of nature, nothing man can do is unnatural.
The UK and Germany must be suffering blackouts left and right from all their renewables.
Lol, poor Shrike.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-30/germany-set-to-pay-more-coal-plants-to-prevent-blackouts
https://brusselssignal.eu/2025/06/renewable-energy-puts-germany-at-risk-of-major-blackout/
Britain preparing for blackouts on the scale of power cuts seen in Spain and Portugal
It’s like he hasn’t watched the news in 10 years.
Hahahahahaha
Nor does he have any plans to do so; wind farms are being demolished more than being built.
The idiot Germans shut down their nuclear plants so they have to use coal now.
You didn't complain when Biden did it, so that makes it ok when Trump does it you hypocrite. Tu quoque for the win!
Seriously though, fuck Joe and fuck Donald. Let markets decide.
YOU didn't complain when Biden did it, so that makes it ok when Trump does it, you hypocrite.
"Seriously though, fuck Joe"
You can finally safely say this, now that he's out of office, without losing cred amongst the other Maddowites.
Recall how much sarcles seethed each time a thread started with FUCK JOE BIDEN and even tried that with DJT. He’s doing the ex post facto that the editors here are doing. Should Demjeff start this, it would be ex post fatso.
End most* regs on energy . End all subsidies.
*could be all regs but there maybe 1 or 2 that are justified and neutral
End eminent domain for privately owned pipelines and electric transmission lines?
Exactly zero Trump defenders understand the fact that all of this will be reversed the moment a Democrat waltzes into the White House.
Oh? I thought the Democrats were all concerned that 2028 was going to be canceled.
BTW, a lot of this is simply canceling of the previous admin's EO's. Is there something in the actual policy that you dislike, other than that it would be better if it were passed as an actual law by our lazy Congress?
Oh? I thought the Democrats were all concerned that 2028 was going to be canceled.
I'm not a Democrat so I wouldn't know what they are concerned about. As for myself, I think Trump has sown so much distrust in institutions like elections and courts that his followers will reject any outcomes that they don't like, and blame it on fraud and corruption. I don't think he'll cancel the election, however when Team Trump loses (yes when, not if, because the economy is going to go down the shitter and when that happens the party in power gets thrown out) I seriously doubt they will accept it and give up power peacefully.
BTW, a lot of this is simply canceling of the previous admin's EO's.
Yup.
Is there something in the actual policy that you dislike, other than that it would be better if it were passed as an actual law by our lazy Congress?
Let's see. Federal financing, federal funding, fast-tracking, reducing royalties, tax breaks...
No, not really. Looks like industrial policy that picks winners and losers, which libertarians reject no matter who does it.
Democrats did it first.
I'm not a Democrat
Lol.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, walks like a duck, flies like a duck, quacks like a duck, and drops duck shit everywhere, Sarcasmic swears it's totally not a duck, and is only doing all the duck stuff because fuck Trump and MAGA.
That's a campaign point for the next Republican president nominee.
"But this shortfall is largely a result of bad government policies, such as federal regulations that delay nuclear power, and politicians picking energy winners and losers."
Yes finally the global warming hoax and disgusting fascist solar and windmill subsidies forced upon us are being undone and cheap energy will come back online.
Sadly you attempt the both sidez BS suggesting that the changes being made are not only a complete removal of the exact horrible policies that caused major increases in energy costs but also will remove a big reason for energy shortages causing blackouts.
Reason:"Trump risks repeating the mistakes of past presidents."
Can you just be honest? Finally common sense is coming back but the damage from idiotic democrat policies have taken a major toll.
No, he is not repeating, he is reversing the mistakes of past Presidents.
In other words you didn't read the article.
Since then, the Energy Department has opened up federal financing opportunities for coal production (which include a $200 billion fund at the agency's Loan Programs Office), designated coal as a critical material (which allows it to receive more federal funding), and reinstated a federal coal advisory committee that had lapsed.
Is that reversing or repeating?
The Interior Department, meanwhile, has fast-tracked fossil fuel and coal projects on federal lands.
Is that reversing or repeating?
The One Big Beautiful Bill Act reduced royalty rates for coal projects on federal lands and mandated that more federal acres be opened up to coal production. The bill also subsidizes foreign steelmaking by giving a tax break to the type of coal used in this production.
Is that reversing or repeating?
Federal financing, federal funding, fast-tracking, reducing royalties, tax breaks...
Let me guess. It's ok because Democrats did it first, and it's not really industrial policy because Trump is doing it. Or something like that.
You make it look like all that preceded it was normal, rather than an intervention, so that reversing the intervention looks like an intervention. What makes you think the previous royalty rates were justified, rather than jacked up? Or that the slow track was better than the fast track for permitting?
There are two things being talked about here. One is rescinding Biden's executive orders regarding renewables. I'm fine with that.
The other is changes for coal specifically, and that amounts to industrial policy that picks winners and losers. In this case the winner is coal and the losers are everything else.
That's the part I'm not fine with. If those changes were across the board for all energy sources then I wouldn't have a complaint. But they're not. They are for coal specifically.
So what Trump is doing is no different than what Biden did. He's getting rid of rules that help people he doesn't like, and stacking the deck for people he does like.
Same old shit. Different president.
Pulling Biden’s subsidies would just be retaliation by Trump.
Were the previous orders / restrictions against coal specifically, though?
You’re not a dummy. You understand my point. Why the obtuse act?
'Orangemanbad' isn't really a point so much as a mantra.
You can't make changes across the board of energy sources when the only thing they applied to was coal. It's like saying freeing black slaves was no good, because it should've applied to slaves of all races.
"Clean Coal" is as real as chemtrails.
Bringing back coal is like trying to bring back the iron lung manufacturing industry. A product not wanted or needed.
Antifa terrorists getting arrested in the funniest ways:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Z2FQpOik4&pp=
'YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HANDLE HER ANYMORE!'
These people are clueless.
Episode #5 might be more profound sharing the cluelessness of the woke rainbow cult. The flag guy and the professor. Yikes.
I always enjoy watching Sarcjeff's get their comeuppance, and as usual YinkaThatGuy is on point.
On another note all the lefty protesters are lilywhite and the people mocking them are colored nowadays. I can see American progressives moving back to Klan-tier racism after the 2028 election because of the demographic shifts.
Shrike is on the leading edge of the outward racism against folks of color.
Am seeing many content creators with videos like that of late. Thinking the progressives are checking out of sanity. For reference, jeffsarctony reaching new lows in the comments. Perhaps part of a false flag.
It was progressives who got Virginia to bring back the poll tax in 1902. A former Confederate general had led the successful effort to repeal it twenty years earlier.
The racism of southern progressives has received inadequate attention from historians.
Is this where Reason pretends that increasing government regulations, and picking winners/losers, is the libertarian position?
Apparently.
No, but it is where Trump defenders claim that increased federal financing, federal funding, fast tracking, reduced royalties, subsidies and tax breaks are not industrial policy that picks winners and losers.
They do, Sarc? You have a citation for this assertion?
Of course not. He can barely read, but he can make stuff up.
When men don’t hold back from woke people:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t01N5x6g-i4
Just as Biden’s preference for renewables distorted markets and harmed consumers, so too does Trump’s bias toward coal.
Democrats: You can heat and power your house and charge your electric car with magickal zero-point energy and the positive vibes created by waving rainbow flags!
Trump: How about we heat and power your house and charge your electric vehicle with coal?
Reason: Bowf sidez markut distorshunz!
True Marxism that violates the laws of physics has never been tried before.
The reality is that while you can make mining more profitable you can't really increase demand. Coal, as the article notes, is a dirty fuel and it is unlikely that anyone will build a new coal fired plant. Other fuel sources are much cheaper to use. You can make more money for coal mining and make coal cheaper for existing users, but you really can't increase the market for coal.
There is a humongous electric power plant along the East River in NYC that used to use coal and now uses gas. It isn't going back to coal. That switch is a major reason why NYC has much cleaner air today.
Coal—the dominant fuel in the U.S., before it was steadily replaced by cheaper and cleaner energy sources
Wait, full stop. WHAT?!?
Yes, gas is cleaner and cheaper. That MAGA considers Trump to be inerrant doesn't change that fact.
As proof of the foolishness of President Trump plans for coal I uld offer up a recent sales of coal mining leases where a Navajo controlled company offered less than 1 cent per ton for rights to coal. Coal is done.
One reason WV went from being a Democratic state to a Republican state so quickly is that Hillary Clinton said that.
Most Republicans know that coal is done. Even the idiot Trump ,ay know it but lying is in his blood.
Coal is dead. Oil in the US is dying. A lease sale in Alaska early in 2025 resulted in zero bids. There are actually fewer drilling rigs in operation today than when Trump took office. The number of Oil drilling rigs in operation in the US actually peaked under Obama.
Economic/environmental progress comes from the free market, NOT from politics. Ask anyone who has suffered socialism, e.g., the USSR. The more markets are controlled, the less prosperity, the less innovation, the less progress. But don't ask the "progressive liberal" or the "far right conservative" or any other advocate of the present worldwide political system. Rulers are addicted to ruling, controlling, more and more until we all die.
Still vote? If so, you are part of the problem.