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Free Speech

America's Free Speech Culture Is Under Attack From Within

The First Amendment still stands, but the culture that supports it is eroding.

J.D. Tuccille | 9.22.2025 7:00 AM

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The First Amendment is alive and well, which is a reassuring note about the basic legal protections for free speech. Unfortunately, it's not enough. The world is full of countries with written protections for liberty that are frequently honored in the breach because people and politicians don't really believe in them (cough, Canada, cough). The true foundation for free speech in the U.S. has always been a culture that supports unfettered expression, of which the First Amendment is just an extension.

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Assassin's Veto, and the Cheers That Followed

But less than two weeks after Charlie Kirk was murdered because an assassin apparently didn't like what he had to say, it's obvious that free speech culture is besieged. That murder is celebrated in some quarters, the U.S. attorney general threatened to crack down on "hate speech," and the head of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) leaned on ABC to fire a comic who got mouthy about Kirk. That's after years of cancel culture meant to muzzle ideas and behind the scenes government efforts to suppress dissent. The First Amendment still stands, but too many Americans seem to regret its existence.

In justifying the murder of Kirk to his roommate/lover, alleged assassin Tyler Robinson wrote, "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out."

We'll be a while parsing the details of Robinson's motives, but they seem founded in Kirk's views about gay and transgender people. The irony is that Kirk, whatever his views, was willing to debate anything. Last week, liberal pundit Van Jones, who sparred online with Kirk, revealed that the conservative activist invited Jones on his show to discuss their differences. Kirk was killed before Jones could respond, though he added, "Please don't give up on open debate and dialogue. Charlie didn't. I won't."

Jones might not have won many friends had he responded in the affirmative. As Rhian Lubin reported for The Independent, "everyone from teachers, university staffers and media personalities, to firefighters, a U.S. Secret Service agent and a Marine is now finding themselves in hot water for reveling in the killing."

"Hearing that Charlie Kirk got shot and died really brightened up my day," commented John Colgan, who was both a public school teacher and a city councilmember in Cornelius, Oregon.

Muzzling the Hateful

Members of the public, unhappy to have their children taught or their communities "protected" by such people, complained to employers—many of whom sent the loudmouths packing. And that's fair enough; nobody has an obligation to waste paychecks on people who offend customers and stain the brand.

But that wasn't enough for U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi, who has apparently been possessed by the spirit of a censorial Brussels Eurocrat. "There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society," Bondi commented. "We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech."

In recent years, this position has been championed by the illiberal left. University of Michigan law professor Catherine A. MacKinnon argues that "once a defense of the powerless, the First Amendment over the last hundred years has mainly become a weapon of the powerful." New York's Democratic officials passed a constitutionally dubious ban on so-called "hate speech." Now it's a position also taken by the nation's top cop. Republican President Donald Trump speculates that Charlie Kirk might have dropped his free-speech advocacy had he known what was going to happen to him.

Bondi's hostility to free speech is shared by Brendan Carr, the head of the FCC, which regulates broadcast media. After late-night host Jimmy Kimmel made the bizarre claim that Kirk was shot by a Trump supporter, viewers complained, some big network affiliates pulled the plug on his show, and he was apparently fired—but not before the FCC head weighed in.

"These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead," Carr told an interviewer.

Turnabout on Government Censorship

Carr was called out for engaging in the sort of jawboning—government strong-arming the private sector to coerce behavior—that conservatives rightly complained about under the Biden administration. Biden officials did it behind the scenes, while Carr—and Trump—openly threatened repercussions for speech they didn't like. And some of their allies lapped it up.

"Sorry, but the FCC was established by FDR to impose public standards on broadcasters and used by JFK to pressure station managers into dropping right-wing radio programs," posted conservative activist Christopher Rufo. "The 'shoe has been on the other foot' for almost a hundred years. Turnabout is fair play."

Rufo is right that the FCC (originally the Federal Radio Commission) was established to bring broadcast media under government control. First, it set out to thwart evolving property rights in the broadcast spectrum that could keep radio stations independent, as documented in Jonathan W. Emord's Freedom, Technology, and the First Amendment (1991). After that, then-President Franklin Delano Roosevelt used the FCC to drive his critics from the airways. Former President John F. Kennedy emulated that tactic (with IRS audits added) in the 1960s.

Trump's use of the FCC to silence voices he doesn't like is turnabout. It also violates his Inauguration Day promise to end the practice of "exerting substantial coercive pressure on third parties, such as social media companies, to moderate, deplatform, or otherwise suppress speech that the Federal Government did not approve." And it ends the pretense that the FCC serves a legitimate purpose. Clearly, it exists now (like much of the government) primarily to serve as a weapon in the hands of whoever holds power to strike at enemies. If that's all the government is, there's no reason to play by the rules at all.

We Need To Revive a Culture of Free Speech

But, as Kirk himself warned, "when people stop talking, really bad stuff starts. When marriages stop talking, divorce happens. When civilizations stop talking, civil war ensues."

We're not there yet. From the left, Van Jones called for more dialogue and less violence. From the right, Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) denounced Carr's threats and warned, "it is unbelievably dangerous for government to put itself in the position of saying we're going to decide what speech we like and what we don't." Bondi walked back her comments after taking a barrage of criticism from across the political spectrum.

But while a majority (59 percent) of Americans still say they support free speech for everybody in a recent poll by Vanderbilt University's Project on Unity and American Democracy and The Future of Free Speech, that majority is countered by sizeable 41 percent who say, "there are times when free speech should be prohibited or certain subjects or speakers prohibited."

That's a lot of Americans with tenuous respect for free speech. And they have an impact. Some, like Kirk's assassin, are willing to turn to violence to silence their opponents. Others attack their enemies through the coercive power of the state. And still more cheer on every attack on the enemy, even if unconstitutional or murderous.

We can and should abolish those organs of the state—like the FCC—that can be used to suppress speech. But how do we get more Americans to embrace debate instead of force? Because, while the First Amendment still stands, it won't be enough if its foundations in the culture continue to erode.

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  1. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

    The "culture of free speech" has been under attack since at least "campaign finance reform" and the Citizens United case when the Left decided that publishing a documentary critical of their favorite candidate was a campaign finance violation. When the Senate Democrats voted to gut the free press provisions of the 1st Amendment in order to overturn Citizens United, and that was dismissed here because "Democrats are good an civil liberties" and that did not really mean anything. The politics of LGBTQ+ activism has eroded free speech with its attempts to compel speech and association in the name of "liberation". The rhetoric that any position labeled "far right", however ridiculous that description was, was illegitimate and therefore not deserving of the benefits of free speech culture has eroded free speech culture. When only one side is held to a principle, that principle is damaged.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Hell, when only one side is held to a principle, it is definitively not a principle.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        We used to mock the Tonys of this board with the "principals not principles" line, but it took a while to sink in that they weren't going to have an answer to their sole principle of "it's okay when we do it" when that same standard was applied to them.

        Now their appeals to principle ring so fucking hollow specifically because it's understood that their only purpose for doing so is to handcuff you so they can destroy you.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Yeah, fuck the pinkos. There’s a lime between free speech and treason. The Tony’s crossed it long ago.

          No Marxist has a right to exist

          1. 5.56   2 months ago

            Most americans dont want the violence the radical right is currently desiring. And any president who low key supports it will not only lose their votes, but the party behind them will be toast.

  2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

    These days, if the entire Bill of Rights were put to an up-or-down vote, it would be voted down. Liberty has always been an elitist position mostly forced upon an unwilling citizenry. Regular folks want a strong government to oppress and silence people they don't like.

    1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

      Exactly. People don't care about rights until the moment theirs are being suppressed. The measure of one's commitment to rights is how strongly one supports those rights when one's own people are in power. It's unsurprising that the Left wanted to ban the Right when the Left was in power and now that the Right is in power, the Right wants to ban the Left.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        What bans shrike? You were given the fucking receipts yesterday. Facts don't matter to you. Maybe you mean banning child porn, your primary care about.

      2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        The political left and right isn’t a line. It’s a circle where both ends meet at authoritarianism. Which is where we’re at right now.

        1. Azathoth!!   2 months ago

          no. it's not.

          That idiocy is leftist propaganda.

          There is no way to 'authoritarianism' when your starting point is individual liberty.

          1. r   2 months ago

            Left/right is not coequal to authoritarianism/liberty. The left does espouse more collectivism than the right, but I don't think anyone could ever mistake Trump for a champion of civil liberties. Right now, both parties love censorship, and dislike it only when it is their party or their people being censored.

            Props to Cruz for not being a hypocrite on this issue; I would've thought more of the GOP would take the high ground here after what happened under the Biden.

        2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Yet you exclusively attack the right, and exclusively defend the left.

          Just admit what you are.

    2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Yup. The American experiment in liberty was exactly that: an experiment. Time has shown that most people don’t like it. And now that both the left and the right have come to oppose liberty, it has reached its end.

  3. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    Leave us not forget that John Adams threw newspaper editors and publishers in jail just 7, seven, years after the First Amendment was ratified.

    The true foundation for free speech in the U.S. has always been a culture that supports unfettered expression, of which the First Amendment is just an extension.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Like I posted in the morning links, we arrived at this point because a woman wanted to get good reviews on her shitty video game.

      And what's particularly ironic is that the whole term "cancel culture" stemmed from some Millennial cunt making #CancelColbert go viral.

  4. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    Anyone else remember when those "crazy, right-wing, gun nuts" said that after the left gutted the second amendment, they would go after the first?
    So it is just now the first amendment is under attack?
    Get back to me when you have to get a permit to post your articles, JD.
    Let me know when you have to pay for you own background check, and several classes on "writing safety".
    I will feel sorry for you when the local sheriff denies your permit.
    And if you want to post more than one article a month, you will need an additional permit, with additional fees.

    1. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      I'm not sure you want to put this out there. You think it's making a good point through parody. The left will think it's an instruction manual.

  5. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    Bring back Nina Jankowicz.

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Has she produced another Marxist musical?

  6. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    Are the walls closing in, shitstain? Is it the beginning of the end, asswipe? Could you get any more fucked up as a result of your raging case of TDS, shitbag.
    No, no, and no; this pile of shit would have no reason to live if the scum-bag couldn't cling to ORANGEMANBAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Get reamed with a barb-wire-wrapped broom stick, fuck off and die and please tell me alone where you are buried: I don't want to stand in line to piss on your grave

    1. 5.56   2 months ago

      The walls are closing in for right wingers who now reveal their genocidal tendencies over free speech.

      1. Quo Usque Tandem   2 months ago

        I see you missed the part about fair play; as in it's justified when YOUR team does it, because...

  7. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

    The First Amendment still stands, but too many Americans seem to regret its existence.

    I am in the Nick Frietas' corner on this one. The left has only supported the 1A when it suits them, and only them. Now they are crying about Kimmel after fucking years of silencing conservatives.

    "I support the First Amendment for people who support the First Amendment."

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Indeed. As I said elsewhere, I will only defend the rights of people who will not seek to oppress my rights.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Indeed.

      2. Ersatz   2 months ago

        An interesting take. Not sure its practical for the health of the constitution or the nation but it has a certain explanatory narrative to the attitudes currently circulating w.r.t. the various Dem (and media and academia...etc) hypocrisies regarding cancel culture, abuse of power and what not.

  8. Chumby   2 months ago

    1A does not insulate a poor-performing late night host from the affiliates deciding to remove him due to douchebaggery.

    Let the stations and the viewers continue to decide.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Nor does 1A protect said douchebag late night host from being shitcanned due to those poor ratings.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        ABC just caved and is bringing him back. On the plus side, Kimmel’s losses for the network will help hasten the eventual hostile takeover of Disney Corp.

    2. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      Yes, the stations and the viewers. Carr is a fucking idiot as well and should also be fired. His intervention was DNC governance at its finest. But his stupidity doesn't change the fact that Kimmel can and should be fired by his employer.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        I pointed out back when Colbert and then Stern were looking at life after their cushy media jobs, that Kimmel, Myers, and Fallon were going to be the next ones on the block. You simply can't have tanking ratings for a decade, and expect stations to keep losing money showing your shit just because you're part of a media legacy.

        It's pretty clear now that these guys have been propped up for a while via leverage-based instruments for probably 5 years now, if not longer. The money's run out, your remaining boob tube audience has started its mass croakout that's going to last another 15 years or so, and on streaming, your clips don't get any more views than influencers and hobbyists with a fraction of your subscriber numbers.

        These dipwads have been in a cultural bubble of people blowing smoke up their ass for so long that they didn't realize how expendable they became, and that the ones actually running things just needed a reason to cut them loose.

    3. Rise of the Impedance   2 months ago

      I didn't see the show as it was broadcast. What exactly was the douchebaggery that Fallon said that was so reprehesible that it caused the FCC to intervene and threaten the parent companies?

      1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        Kimmel.

        1. Rise of the Impedance   2 months ago

          Sorry, wrong show. I got the order firing order confused. I meant Kimmel, Fallon is next on the list.

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            Fallon’s ratings were between Colbert (2.8M) and Kimmel (1.1M) at 1.3M. Maybe he picks up some former ABC viewers, but it doesn’t look good. Tuesday Night Pickleball might do better.

            “Are you ready for some pickleball?!?!”

            1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              Fallon isn’t a huge piece of shit,Ike Kimmel or Colbert. He just tows the line because he’s scared of the extreme leftist democrats.

          2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            The same list that Kimmel is on, whereby Disney/ABC put him back on the air? That list?

            Go suck Biden's limp dick somewhere else.

      2. Chumby   2 months ago

        Syntax error.

  9. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    Stopping the left from going after people they don’t like in violation of the Constitution isn’t good enough. Must get retribution in violation of the Constitution to make it even. After all, two wrongs make a right winger.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Is there anything your strawmen won’t cover?

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Jeff’s massive corpulence?

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Jeffy got so big he had to switch from health insurance to homeowners.

  10. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    I seem to remember a lot of commenters coming here five years ago warning that the culture was undergoing a radical shift away from free speech. Every single Reason critter told us that it was a okay as long as it was done by private companies being jawboned by government. Thanks to Amy Barrett that is now established law. I agree that the Trump administration attempts to censor speech is disturbing. But Reason spent years supporting censorship when Biden was in office. Maybe you all should just STFU at this point and let real free speech advocates deal with it.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      The part of the story you left out was that Reason changed its mind as soon as there were facts to confirm the conspiracy theory, and they were showered with hate for it.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Cite?

      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        I’ll take ‘things that only exist in Sarc’s booze soaked mind’ for $600 Alex.

    2. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      I don't track all of these writers as closely as some of you do, but I'm not going to stain Tuccille with the idiocy Reason's Democractswithguns writers have put out over the years. There are those like Sullum / Boehm / Emma that I really won't even give a click to. But I have found Tuccille to be pretty consistent in placing the blame for our devolving politics where it belongs, which is almost always the left.

      There are multiple logical reasons for it beyond just "left bad, right good". The nature of being the party of "all change is progress" vs the party of "keep it the same" would tend to lead one party to destroy norms while the other protects them. And of course there's the reality of the media spending generations running interference for the D's no matter what they do, while the right couldn't step out of line lest they be exposed (or overexposed). And of course there is a fair amount of the left being willing to do literally anything to win while the right has been less willing, at least until recently.

      I don't have an answer to how to stop the left without stooping to their level, and I don't blame anyone who has thrown up their hands and decided that's the only solution. But personally I don't believe a race to the bottom is going to work out well.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        I don't have an answer to how to stop the left without stooping to their level, and I don't blame anyone who has thrown up their hands and decided that's the only solution. But personally I don't believe a race to the bottom is going to work out well.

        It never does. But when you have a Senator from the Dems saying that it's "war" and that they need to "protect democracy" using "whatever means necessary to do so," that's a pretty clear indication that they aren't going to stop unless they're made to stop. And since they've already shown they have no problem starting massive riots to get what they want, then that needs to be returned with interest.

        Taking the "gentle parenting" approach to the left for the last 30 years hasn't worked.

  11. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    I can't imagine being so ignorant, partisan, and myopic that you think just NOW free speech is getting attacked. Good lord.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      I can't imagine being so ignorant, partisan, and myopic that you think that every terrible thing done by Democrats is now wonderful when done by the Trump administration.

      1. Jaydog   2 months ago

        And if you didn't complain about it when democrats were doing it , shrike, you don't get to complain about it now. Your problem is you thought democrats would be in power forever. Forcing democrats like you to live by their own rules isn't Hypocrisy, it's justice. Hope you enjoy it.

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          Retarded retards are retarded.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Speaking for yourself, Sarc?

          2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Yes, yes you are.

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

        Yeah that would be dumb too. Good thing I didnt say that.

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          Plenty of others in these comments did.

          By the way, saying "Democrats did it first" is clearly absolving Trump. Unless you mean to say it's bad when Trump does bad things, even if Democrats did them first. Except you never say that. None of his supporters do. Never have. Never will.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            I’m surprised you didn’t try to ram those comments in his mouth, Sarc, as you usually do with the rest of us.

          2. DesigNate   2 months ago

            If Democrats did an action first and weren’t summarily smacked down for it either verbally/in print, or through appropriate government action (key word being appropriate there), it means it is de facto okay for anyone else to engage in said action, as far as the general public is concerned.

            Is that my preferred outcome? Fuck no, but it’s the reality of the world we live in and how humans think, especially in regards to politics/government.

            1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

              It’s like a family feud.

              1. DesigNate   2 months ago

                Capulets v Montagues

                Hatfields v McCoys

                Democrats v Republicans

                Yeah, I think family feud is apt.

                1. Chumby   2 months ago

                  Sarc vs sobriety

          3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Let’s see, what have democrats been up to lately?

            1. Regular riots in blue cities across the country
            2. Regular assaults against ICE officers enforcing the law as written for decades
            3. Democrat mayors and governors obstructing ICE and tipping off terror organizations like antifa as to where ICE raids are taking place
            4. Democrat officials actively protecting illegals, even known violent criminals, including child rapists
            5. Multiple assassinations and assassination attempts by democrats radicalized by terror organizations. Tow of them targeting our president
            6. Democrats actively protecting known Islamists
            7. Democrats and their terror organization down line groups harassing and beating Jewish people,
            8. Democrats openly supporting known international terror groups
            9. Democrat run propaganda media organizations spreading lies about Trump and Trump supporters being literally Hitler,, therefore justifying democrat violence and rebellion

            Why should I have any inclination to protect their ‘rights’?

  12. Thoritsu   2 months ago

    Largely agree, but sure seems inconsistent with Reason reporting on the much broader, direct and pervasive forced censoring of people on COVID et al under Buy-Dumb.

    Where were you then, big boys?

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      Never forget the Disingormation Czar theater kid they wanted to put in charge of controlling everything anyone said anywhere.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        I have no problem, cracking down on these people, because they already tried unsuccessfully to engage in a soft Marxist revolution. And I see no logic in allowing them to take another crack at it, ever.

        Get rid of the democrats, now.

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

          The left must be destroyed. it's not a joke.

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            You are correct. This cannot be allowed to continue, the only question is if they will surrender unconditionally, or if they want to fight to the death.

  13. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >"We need to revive a culture of free speech.

    Yes we do - but you're going to have to wait while the Right uses it as a cudgel for a while.

    "Make your enemy live up to their principles" is a core principle of the Left and the Right is going to make it hurt for a while, until they're ready to come back to the bargaining table.

  14. Azathoth!!   2 months ago

    Charlie Kirk was murdered because an assassin apparently didn't like what he had to say, it's obvious that free speech culture is besieged

    This is where you needed to stop.

    Free speech culture is indeed under siege.

    Charlie Kirk was murdered for using it.

    And the left erupted in celebration of that murder.

    Not a fringe. Not an outlier. The mainstream left. Millions of them.

    Cheering the murder and hoping for more. And they had lists.

    They're STILL saying that people should be killed for offending the left--while whining that some leftists are getting fired for "using their free speech to call for people to be killed for using free speech they don't like"

    That normal people are reeling in their reaction to discovering the size of the viper they've been living with is completely understandable

    You and your people, Tuccille, want the right dead.

    Not silent. Not 'muzzled'. Dead.

    How dare you suggest that the right has a problem with free speech. How dare you.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      Yeah, that boaf sides shit doesn't fly anymore.

      I keep seeing the "I am Charlie" people. To hell with that. I am the guy Charlie warned you fuckers about.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        The democrat party cannot be allowed to continue. And with it gone, the tens of millions of free range violent Marxist revolutionaries have to go too.

  15. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    Colleges and Universities have been thwarting 1A cancelling and attacking conservative speech for decades. They are publicly funded.

    The NPR PBS government funded organizations have become biased over decades and flippant against dissenting opinions to the point of censorship.

    The media has attempted to control the way people think by suppressing facts, misconstruing and spinning reality into a narrative that meets the democrat agenda.

    People working in government who take their direction by the executive decide to resist and thwart the new administrations agenda.

    This is supposed to remain the status quo and no one can stand up against this through any action?

    Judges are trying to take control of the executive branch to the point of stopping the President of enacting the agenda and policies that the President was voted in to accomplish and fall under the privy of the executive branch to control.

    And all we hear decried is the FCC caused a failed comedian to be fired when in fact his firing was inevitable and inconsequential to the real attacks on 1A?

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      And Kimmel is coming back, at least temporarily. ABC chose wrong. Now let them pay the price.

  16. JohnZ   2 months ago

    Nowhere was freedom of speech more under attack than during the Obiden misadministration where people were canceled, kicked off Facebook, twitter and even fired for refusing to go along with the official orthodoxy of the Convid 1984.
    It was censorship ad nauseum and anyone who dared refute the orthodoxy from his holiness Fr. Fauci who ruled from on high with God's personal blessing.
    Anyone who dared any such heresy was threatened with being burned at the stake.....more or less.
    The transidiots and their leftist neoMarxists dared anyone to dispute their own versions of orthodoxy and the punishment was swift and severe as those who dared such heresy as declaring a man cannot become a woman was declared to be TRANSPHOBIC!!!!
    At least we don't have to live through the leftist inquisitions this time. If Harris and Walz had been installed in the White House, the torture would never stop.

  17. damikesc   2 months ago

    So, Kimmel is returning. Left-wing violence, including shooting up an affiliate, got it done.

    That is, according to Reason, BETTER.

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      It’s time for the left to go. No more Marxists.

  18. AT   2 months ago

    The true foundation for free speech in the U.S. has always been a culture that supports unfettered expression.

    No, it hasn't. The US has been a culture that supports the government from interfering in expression. But just because you have the right to free speech doesn't mean any of the rest of the citizenry has to put up with it. Speaking freely A) does not come with a stage and a microphone; B) entitle you an audience; or, pertinent to this conversation, C) go without social consequence.

    Your mistake is the word "unfettered." You come to school naked, you'll be kicked out. You call your boss's wife a whore, you'll be fired. You call a friend a nazi because he thinks different from you, you may no longer have a friend. You start screaming in a restaurant, you'll be made to leave. You chat on your phone during a movie, you'll get hisses and jeers from everyone around you.

    We do NOT support unfettered expression. You anarchtarians NEVER get this through your heads: rights come with responsibilities. Specifically, the responsibility of prudence. The social expectation that you'll self-restrain when prudent to do so.

    Free speech isn't "anything goes." Libertarianism isn't even "anything goes."

    But even going with your overbroad definition - even THAT stopped somewhere around 2009, briefly resurfaced, and then stopped again.

    But hey keep at it! You're less than two decades away from finally reporting on current events!

    We'll be a while parsing the details of Robinson's motives

    OK New York Times/Fake News. Whatever you say. *eyeroll*

    Carr was called out for engaging in the sort of jawboning—government strong-arming the private sector to coerce behavior

    Which he didn't actually do, and makes all these "3rd Rate Comedian having on-air tantrum getting put in time-out for a couple days is worse than Civil Rights Leader being murdered!" articles so ridiculous. Especially after today.

    that majority is countered by sizeable 41 percent who say, "there are times when free speech should be prohibited or certain subjects or speakers prohibited."

    Yea, like shouting Fire in a theater, putting gay porn in school libraries, or going on national television and knowingly telling a deadpan slanderous lie for the express purpose of demonizing a group of people you hate for reasons that you can't even articulate.

    Those are all entirely and 100% reasonable restrictions.

    1. Ersatz   2 months ago

      well said

  19. George Reeves   2 months ago

    We have free speech to expose ignorance and stupidity and reveal truth. It works. There are limits. You can't shout fire in a crowded theater. You also can't tell politically inflammatory lies when we have had 3 political assination attempts and 4 political assinations in the last 15 months.

    1. Quo Usque Tandem   2 months ago

      From the ever friendly AT bot:

      'The idea that you can't shout "fire in a crowded theater" is a widely misunderstood and outdated legal concept, often misrepresented to argue against free speech. The original 1919 Supreme Court case that introduced the phrase has been largely overturned, and the legal standard for restricting speech is now far more stringent.
      The phrase originated in the 1919 Supreme Court case Schenck v. United States. In this case, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes used the phrase in his opinion while upholding a conviction related to distributing anti-draft leaflets during World War I. He noted that free speech does not protect someone "in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic," highlighting the false nature of the statement and the resulting panic as key factors. However, the "clear and present danger" test established in Schenck was later replaced by the standard set in the 1969 case Brandenburg v. Ohio. The Brandenburg standard permits speech restriction only if it is intended and likely to cause "imminent lawless action".
      The word "falsely" in Holmes' original quote is critical, as a truthful warning about a real fire is protected speech, while intentionally causing panic through a lie is not. Legal experts generally view the phrase as an inaccurate representation of current First Amendment law. "

      Holmes was using this trope by equating falsely crying fire in a crowded theater to protesting the draft during WW 1. People handing out leaflets does not constitute a "clear and present danger" and I wish everyone would stop using the damned line.

      1. AT   2 months ago

        a truthful warning about a real fire is protected speech, while intentionally causing panic through a lie is not.

        I like it. So basically, nothing coming out of the mouths of leftists is protected. We're past denying the fact that left-wing is intentionally trying to gin up rabble rousers and urge them to violence. The guy who shot Charlie Kirk was intentionally driven to panic through lies disseminated by the left (and in particular its LGBT Pedo branch). Jimmy Kimmel was intentionally trying to create a panic about "MAGA" through lies.

        This is not protected speech. Thanks Quo!

  20. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    Tends to happen in a [D] [Na]tional So[zi]alist Empire.

    "President Franklin Delano Roosevelt used the FCC to drive his critics from the airways. Former President John F. Kennedy emulated that tactic (with IRS audits added) in the 1960s."

    The more Gov-Guns 'do' that isn't specifically to defend Liberty and ensure Justice for all ... the less Liberty/Rights the people will have.

  21. Quo Usque Tandem   2 months ago

    "But how do we get more Americans to embrace debate instead of force? "

    The Armada has sailed.

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