Americans Don't Actually Like Trump's Bad Guy Posturing on Immigration and the Military
Shows of force and mass deportations play well to the base, but they’re falling flat with the public.

President Donald Trump loves playing to a crowd. And his new branding as a wartime president is designed to do just that.
The new Trump Doctrine is maximum force with maximum publicity against the easiest targets possible. After blowing up an alleged drug smuggling boat in the Caribbean—Secretary of State Marco Rubio made a point of emphasizing that they chose to execute rather than arrest the crew—the administration renamed the Department of Defense to the Department of War. Trump himself threatened that Chicago would "find out why" the name was changed in a social media post promising "deportations" and casting himself as a villain from Apocalypse Now.
As Reason's Christian Britschghi points out, "Trump and his communications staff keep depicting the president as the bad guy doing bad things" because they like "the theater of armed, uniformed men marching around looking intimidating. They want the public to see the federal government as threatening and capable of exercising force at a moment's notice." Watch out: Here comes President Badass.
The problem is that the public just isn't buying it. When it comes to sending the National Guard onto city streets, the administration's signature tough-on-crime policy, a majority of Americans don't support it and don't want those troops in their hometowns. And the mass deportation policy, which some of those National Guard deployments are supporting, also polls badly. Most Americans say the deportations have gone too far, and a growing majority says immigration makes America stronger, a pretty clear statement on the direction public opinion is moving.
Like many politicians before him, Trump seems to have radically overestimated his own mandate. People vote for strongmen because they want someone to end the chaos. They don't want their strongman to cause more chaos by picking fights. The immigration debate shows that dynamic clearly. Americans overwhelmingly want to deport violent criminals, which is what Trump campaigned on. They don't want to round up immigrants who have lived in America for years without any problems, which is what Trump is doing.
The June 2025 unrest in Los Angeles was a case in point. Federal agents were on the prowl for the least objectionable immigrants, rounding up workers from Home Depot and families who had shown up to their immigration court dates. Several of the people they snatched turned out to be American citizens. Those actions provoked protests and riots in the city, which became an occasion to (literally) send in the Marines. "The administration could barely contain its enthusiasm" about the chance to confront rioters, Reason's Matt Welch wrote at the time.
But, as Welch pointed out, the crackdown did not exactly reflect well on the administration. People could see that the administration had started the problem to begin with. It had gone after harmless targets and turned a city into a warzone in the process. When you're out of power, chaos in the streets is an opportunity to talk about how you'll do better than the other guy. When you're in power, chaos in the streets is a reflection of how badly you're doing now.
The proof is in the pudding. Apart from the individual issue polls, Trump's approval rating has been steadily falling since he took office. But these political setbacks are just as likely to cause the administration to double down than to back off. Even though the heavy-handed security measures poll badly, it's still more favorable terrain for Trump than other issues Americans could be talking about, such as the economy or his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
Perhaps more importantly, the President Badass routine plays to the base. Despite their general unpopularity, mass deportations and National Guard deployments poll really well with Republicans. And they play best with the hyper-partisan, extremely online circles that the administration is staffed by and constantly appealing to. Vice President J.D. Vance calls himself "plugged into a lot of weird right-wing subcultures."
The administration's trollish social media presence is a clear sign of who it's trying to play to. And online audience capture is never a good thing. Democrats learned the hard way that the positions they thought were popular—thanks to young, social media addicted staffers—were actually weird and divisive. On the other side of the spectrum, Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis' hyper-online presidential campaign strategy was widely considered to be a disaster.
The President Badass routine, in fact, was one of the problems that sank the DeSantis campaign. In July 2023, a campaign staffer made a meme video that featured a photo of DeSantis in uniform, videos of military-style raids, and soldiers marching under the Black Sun, a Nazi symbol. Though the campaign fired the staffer, the damage was already done. What people in DeSantis' circles thought was a cheeky way to show off their boss' strength was actually off-putting and threatening to the rest of society.
Trump's supporters may high-five themselves for causing the "biggest liberal freakout in months" with his threats against Chicago. And the progressive press will be overplaying its hand if it treats Trump's post as a literal threat to bomb Chicago. But figuratively threatening to set the city on fire isn't popular, either. Trump, apparently realizing that he went too far, insisted to reporters that his threat was really a promise "to clean up our cities." That isn't convincing. People know the difference between restoring order and picking fights.
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Team D has thin skin. But glad MSM is upset about hyperbole and a heel Trump “cutting a promo” versus the numerous shootings and murders happening in Chicago.
MSM is our true leaders. We should always do what they say. Journalists are a special breed of leaders.
I'm seeing people madder at the ammo Trump was given in regards to the Charlotte situation than the actual stabbing itself.
Fuckin' hilarious, the local cineplex doesn't have this much projection. Quick reminder, you're not supposed to cheer for the heels. Donnie is quite possibly the whiniest little bitch I've ever seen, and I've seen a few.
I am sure the 24/7 propaganda campaign about maryland fathers and deported citizens has had no effect on opinions. Also, I would bet these numbers are just as true as everything else on this topic.
"As Reason's Christian Britschghi points out, "Trump and his communications staff keep depicting the president as the bad guy doing bad things" because they like "the theater of armed, uniformed men marching around looking intimidating. They want the public to see the federal government as threatening and capable of exercising force at a moment's notice." Watch out: Here comes President Badass."
Well Christian is wrong. Try again
It worked.
Were there any school shootings (the kind his critics only care about) in D.C. since that started?
Ron DeSantis' hyper-online presidential campaign strategy was widely considered to be a disaster.
Only because he wanted to pick a fight with Trump and his voters.
The polls consistently showed him as the next best choice if Don was jailed or killed. But he thought he could win that engagement, and he was wrong.
I think he might have, if the Democrats had held off on the lawfare. That was what really caused Republicans to rally behind Trump.
Perhaps they should have polled people living in DC and the area of LA where the national guard and federal agents actually went?
Oh wait, that was done. And people overwhelming support the effort after realizing the benefits of being safer...
"This CBS News/YouGov survey was conducted with a nationally representative sample of 2,385 U.S. adults interviewed between September 3-5, 2025. The sample was weighted to be representative of adults nationwide according to gender, age, race, and education, based on the U.S. Census American Community Survey and Current Population Survey, as well as 2024 presidential vote. The margin of error is ±2.5 points."
Trump's military occupation of DC is opposed by 80% of the population. You have any other MAGA lies to spout?
Edit: I forgot to call you a fascist fuck.
You'll have to give us a source on that 80%, Tony you lying fuck, because all the other polls show it's pretty popular.
"A recent Washington Post-Schar School poll conducted in August 2025 found that a significant majority of D.C. residents—around 79%—opposed the federal takeover of local policing, with roughly 65% believing it wouldn't improve safety from violent crime. In contrast, a national AP-NORC poll from late August 2025 indicated that only about 32% of Americans found federal control of major city police departments acceptable, while a majority of D.C. residents and a third of all Americans opposed it."
C'mon man, this wasn't hard. Even you know how to use Google. I mean, you DO want the truth - right?
A slight majority of voters – 51% – oppose the Trump administration taking over the DC, police force and deploying the National Guard in the nation’s capital, according to new data released Aug. 20 from a progressive polling firm.
"C'mon man, this wasn't hard."
Imbecilic man (dumber than a bag of rocks)
Fuck off and die, asswipe
You must be a misogynist, racist, fool to contradict the Mayor of DC.
Tony is a retard and a mega racist.
The polling done in Orange County, the seat of west coast KKK power in the 20s, is going to be very different to the polling done in Hippie Frappuccino San Francisco.
Orange County is a lot less dysfunctional than San Feancisco
San Francisco isn’t LA either. Wtf was your point?
The only point is the one on the top of his head.
nope.
As witnessed and as history has documented, for the GOP, the below statement is incorrect.
"When you're in power, chaos in the streets is a reflection of how badly you're doing now."
When the GOP is in power, especially with Trump as POTUS, the chaos in the streets is a reflection of the lunatic extreme leftists and anarchists who have their bail paid out by democrats for their crimes that are being perpetrated because of how well Trump is doing now. It is success driven. The success of Trump and the GOP is what has caused the left to lose it's cookies and bring chaos to the streets.
The problem is that the public just isn't buying it. When it comes to sending the National Guard onto city streets, the administration's signature tough-on-crime policy, a majority of Americans don't support it and don't want those troops in their hometowns.
Polls and statistics that contradict Trump or make him look bad are all cooked up by leftists. Whoever ran those polls needs to be fired and replaced by a Trump loyalist who knows nothing about running polls. Then the results will agree with Trump and thus be totally accurate.
Americans overwhelmingly want to deport violent criminals, which is what Trump campaigned on. They don't want to round up immigrants who have lived in America for years without any problems, which is what Trump is doing.
Without any problems? They're illegal! That means they don't respect any laws at all! Every illegal is a potential rapist or murderer!
It is not posturing. Trump really is the bad guy.
The bad guy was the illegal who killed Laken Riley because he wanted to rape her pussy.
If you oppose common-sense measures to reduce the proliferation of illegals, you side with Laken Riley's killer!
The native-born are ALSO threats to the Sacred Pubic Welfare! Some of them DO cummit murders!!! Send them ALL, these DIRTY invaders, back UP the birth canals that they came from!!!
Shit never ceases to amaze me, how the "logic" of the brutal cave-dwellers justifies just about ANYTHING that they want to do! Hey... Timmy McVeigh was a mass murderer and a military vet and A WHITE DUDE!!! Therefore, let us send to El Salvador, without trial, for duly deserved TORTUROUS PUNISHMENT, all of the white dudes!!!
(Especially those who are military veterans ass well.)
Unread
Military occupation of US cities is not "common sense", it is fascist.
You are making a very common MAGA error. Trump identifies a problem (real or not) and proposes a radical solution. MAGAs then accuse any one who is opposed to the extreme solution as a supporter of the problem itself.
Your brokenness and downward spiraling is enjoyable to watch.
mass deportations and National Guard deployments poll really well with Republicans. And they play best with the hyper-partisan, extremely online circles
You don't say.
You say "hyper-partisan, extremely online circles"?
Um, let me look around... If I look REALLY hard, I just MIGHT find some here in these here on-line cumments right here...
If I succeed, is there a special prize of any slut? Will Dear Orange God-Emperor "share" His Queen Spermy Daniels with me? Or is that only if I find on-line hyper-partisans of the ENEMA persuasion?
If you find one, your prize will be to be honored with the noble title "TDS-addled shitpile."
You, Sir or Ma'am, are ASSuredly UDDERLY correct, butt PLEASE don't try to milk shit!
Whoa, GOOD news for once! NON-radical-far-right peoples of the USA do SNOT want fascist displays of Military Might And Power parading around all day, oppressing and suppressing honest people who just want to work for an honest living! People with good intentions (AKA benevolence) and common sense are GETTING FED UP TO HERE with all of the HATRED and PUNISHMENT-LUSTS directed at the un-AmeriKKKans, whether they are to be PUNISHED for working too hard and productively, here or abroad! (AKA border wars and tariff/trade wars.)
Twat will shit take till we PUNISH those (pussy-grabbers etc.) who display WAAAY out-of-cuntrol punishment lusts?!?! Being SNOT addicted, myself, to punishment-lusts, I would be content with "punishing" them by shaming them and SNOT re-erecting them! EVER again!
I want the 'isolationist' Trump back...
I want the grifting real-estate multi-times-bankrupted conman Trump (who was SNOT a politician) back! The more POWER that evil con artists gather, the worse shit gets!
Once someone in power gets a war-boner, it never goes away.
Is Reason really doing two articles about this topic?
If I am correct about something... Then the more times that I repeat my CORRECT idea, the LESS correct that it becomes? Is THAT twat Ye are Pervfectly saying?
(I for one hope that they do ANOTHER article or 20 or 40 about this topic, and that it becomes MORE AND MORE TRUE as Americans WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!)
It is not always Reason, it is Volokh Conspiracy, which is housed on the Reason blog. They post as they wish.
It was yesterday. You commented on it. Retard.
https://reason.com/2025/09/08/trump-keeps-casting-himself-as-the-bad-guy/
Unfair. That was yesterday.
- sarc
*It's okay because Biden forgot what happened yesterday first. Signed, Republicans.*
-Also Sarc
Americans Don't Actually Like Trump's Bad Guy Posturing on Immigration and the Military"
American's love it, not just like it. The headline should actually read, "The Sour Globohomo Types at My Cocktail Parties Hate Trump's Bad Guy Posturing on Immigration and the Military".
"Racists, murderers, pedophiles and angry drunks in Maine hate Trump's posturing".
Goat-blood-suckers from FAR below and beneath Hell LOVE the spread of hatred, nationalist greed, and xenophobia spread by the Deep Orange Ultra-Nationalist Promulgator of "Make America Hate Again".
The proof is in the pudding.
No. “The proof of the pudding is in the eating” is the saying, you fool.
Trump is trying to intimidate criminals into behaving, as he did with the border. A few showy arrests and some loud talk does the trick.
I don't know. I think every writer at Reason has at least 80 proof in their pudding. It's the only way they can get through the lonely nights counting hate-clicks.
Americans Don't Actually Like Trump's Bad Guy Posturing on Immigration and the Military
Actually they really do. Ask Don Lemon, who is currently regretting all his life choices.
Shows of force and mass deportations play well to the base, but they’re falling flat with the public.
lol, you think you're "the public."
The public IS the base, idiot. It's you extreme minority of bubble-wrapped elitists who never EVER leave your MSM/Bluesky echo-chambers that have lost all touch with reality and can't fathom how/why everyone is supporting this guy. You probably also don't have a firm pulse on how much this country hates you and everyone like you at this point, do you.
Hey Petti - you still wearing a COVID mask? I'll bet you are, aren't you. That's like a dead giveaway in 2025 for the public - the base - to accurately conclude, "I should definitely hate that guy."
>Shows of force and mass deportations play well to the base, but they’re falling flat with the public.
Petti, who won the popular vote?
The base *is the public*.
I’ll give him DC (federal jurisdiction and all) and even protecting/assisting federal agents and property (seeing as shit leftist have a penchant for trying to burn down federal buildings with people still inside), but there’s no need to just be policing these cities (leaving aside the constitutionality for a moment).
Mass deportation wouldn’t be necessary if we hadn’t spent 4 years importing 10 million plus people to use as a permanent underclass.
"...Mass deportation wouldn’t be necessary if we hadn’t spent 4 years importing 10 million plus people to use as a permanent underclass..."
This is the pertinent issue.
Trump's getting blamed for the mess in the kitchen as he tries to clean up what slobbering Joe managed to leave by wrecking the drain-pipes.
Throw that asshole in jail; he won't know the difference, but it will serve as a warning to those who acted as POTUS in his stead.
Nice to see someone wearing the shoes that fit.