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Second Amendment

Major Gun-Rights Groups Oppose the Trump Administration's Idea To Ban Trans People From Owning Guns

The NRA says it won't support "any policy proposals that implement sweeping gun bans that arbitrarily strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights without due process."

C.J. Ciaramella | 9.6.2025 12:12 PM

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The Trump administration's reported proposal to ban transgender people from owning guns has drawn condemnation from the National Rifle Association (NRA) and every other notable gun-rights group in the country.

The Daily Wire first reported Thursday, based on anonymous Justice Department sources, that senior officials in the department are considering using their rulemaking authority to declare that trans people are mentally ill, stripping them of their Second Amendment rights. Other major news outlets rereported the story.

The Justice Department hasn't issued any such rule yet, or attached a name to any of the statements leaking out to the press, so this all amounts to more of a trial balloon. But as Reason's Jacob Sullum wrote, the idea is "legally loony." There is no statutory authority for such a categorical decree. Even if Congress did pass such a law, it would be unconstitutional based on current Supreme Court precedent and prevailing circuit court opinions.

If the Trump administration was hoping to get a pass from gun-rights groups over these small details, it will be disappointed. Categorical bans—issued by executive fiat no less—have been a red line for pro-Second Amendment groups and lawmakers for decades.

"The NRA supports the Second Amendment rights of all law-abiding Americans to purchase, possess and use firearms," the organization posted Friday on X. "The NRA does not, and will not, support any policy proposals that implement sweeping gun bans that arbitrarily strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights without due process."

The Second Amendment isn't up for debate. pic.twitter.com/AQwouV4VDd

— NRA (@NRA) September 5, 2025

Stephen Gutowski, an independent journalist covering gun rights and the gun industry, reported that the NRA wasn't alone: "Every major gun-rights group has now spoken against the idea of the DOJ trying to strip trans people of their gun rights en masse," he posted on X Friday.

Gutowski's tally included Gun Owners of America, the Second Amendment Foundation, the Firearms Policy Coalition, the National Association for Gun Rights, and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

"Disarming trans individuals based purely on their self-identification flies in the face of the Constitution and the current administration's purported support for the Second Amendment," the Second Amendment Foundation said in a statement to Newsweek. "Beyond the bad policy and constitutional infirmities of such 'considerations' the Department of Justice has no authority to unilaterally identify groups of people that it would like to strip of their constitutional rights. SAF sincerely hopes that the reports of such considerations by the DOJ are inaccurate, as the policy reportedly being contemplated is worthy of the strongest possible condemnation and legal action."

Second Amendment groups often remind gun-control advocates that, historically, things don't tend to go well for minority groups after they're disarmed by the government, so it's good to see them presenting a united front against just such a proposal.

If the Trump Administration has any ability to read the room, it will quietly forget about its idea to illegally strip a group of Americans of their constitutional right to bear arms.

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  1. Fu Manchu   1 day ago

    Glad to see NRA taking the principled stance. Hopefully this will put enough pressure on the White House to back off this stupid-ass idea.

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    1. sarcasmic   1 day ago

      Bet you a dollar that if this turns out to be more than a rumor and the NRA takes a principled stand against Trump, that MAGAs will declare the organization to be leftist, cancel their memberships, and scrape the stickers off their trucks.

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      1. Chumby   1 day ago

        Libertarians fled the NRA after they endorsed gun grabbing Mitt Romney over Ron Paul in the 2012 GOP primary. Gun Owners of America is the true 2A defender; they were also mentioned in the article as opposing a federal ban on tranny gun ownership. If someone wants a snub nose instead of a long barrel, they’ll support that.

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        1. sarcasmic   1 day ago

          Then that makes them leftist as well, being that the definition of leftist is disagreement with Trump.

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

            Why do you cry so much about being correctly called a leftist? You literally repeat all their narratives.

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          2. Chumby   1 day ago

            https://maineaa.org/

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          3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

            Poor sarc. No more ideas™ .

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          4. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

            Poor retarded Sarc. That TDS must be a real bitch.

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          5. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   40 minutes ago

            https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html

            I’m sure ML will sponsor you.

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      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

        Sad you only have a dollar to bet. Your prediction record is zero percent.

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        1. Chumby   20 hours ago

          He returned twenty returnables today. Yesterday was a day off from drinking hence only the twenty empties.

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          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   37 minutes ago

            40’s?

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      3. charliehall   18 hours ago

        I would join that bet!

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

          Lets get an NRA role call!!

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  2. AT   1 day ago

    But as Reason's Jacob Sullum wrote

    Reason citing Reason! *drink*

    "Every major gun-rights group has now spoken against the idea of the DOJ trying to strip trans people of their gun rights en masse," he wrote on X Friday.

    It really is a dumb idea. And totally unnecessary.

    All we have to do is put LGBTs in insane asylums, where they belong, and they'll automatically be flagged if one ever gets out and tries to legally obtain firearms for their impending rampage.

    Or, better yet, we just never let them out of the asylum. That works too.

    Don't take the convoluted route to solving a problem, DOJ. We already know they're mentally ill and predatory - and we're now in a position where we can ignore the wokescolds for pretending otherwise.

    Build the sanitariums, round up the LGBT, never let them out. The gun-ownership issue is necessarily solved by doing so.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

      Its such a dumb idea I still question the anonymous leaks. Even if to the daily wire.

      Glad we have multiple stories on this without any evidence while still zero stories on all the declassified Russia gate documents. But reason would have to admit their own fault by recognizing the latter.

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      1. AT   1 day ago

        You don't trust the anonymous unnamed sources? I heard they're experts.

        EXPERTS, JESSE.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

          Thankfully reason never has to account for their reliance on past narratives when those sources end up having lied.

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    2. SQRLSY   1 day ago

      "Build the sanitariums, round up the LGBT, never let them out."

      AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian and Punishment-Worshitting Copsucker HAS SPOKEN, peons!!!

      ALL HAIL AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian and Punishment-Worshitting Copsucker!!!

      (Twat could EVER possibly go wrong?)

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      1. AT   1 day ago

        ^ Exhibit A.

        Thank you for illustrating the sheer necessity of what I'm suggesting.

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        1. SQRLSY   1 day ago

          Those who DARE to question AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian and Punishment-Worshitting Copsucker DEMON-strate the UDDER NEED for AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian and Punishment-Worshitting Copsucker to take the reigns of Terror-Power! Gotcha!

          (Is there ANY way, in Your Pervfectly Power-Lusting so-called "brain", that You do SNOT deserve Infinite Power over the MANY-MANY lesser beings?)

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          1. AT   1 day ago

            ^ Exhibit B.

            Thank you for illustrating the sheer necessity of what I'm suggesting.

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            1. SQRLSY   1 day ago

              Exhibit C, AT the AuthorShitarian TotalShitarian and Punishment-Worshitting Copsucker DEMON-strates that Shit could be replaced by a broken record player, or a demented "speaking" parrot!

              Given my druthers, I would MUCH prefer the broken record player, or a demented speaking parrot! The latter would SNOT threaten to assign the Earth to perpetual, perslutual Drool-Rule by Demonic AT-Mini-Me Minions!!! WHO NEEDS FREEDOM ANYWAY?!?!?! (Also Sprach the Demonic AT-Mini-Me Minions!!!)

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

                Does anybody really care what spews from your demented keyboard?

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                1. SQRLSY   23 hours ago

                  You Pervfectly think and stink that FREEDOM for individuals is demented, compared to AuthorShitarian, TotalShitarian, and Punishment-Worshitting Copsuckerism?

                  Go take a LONG look in the mirror, You PervFectly PATHETIC excuse for a supposedly humanoid being! Wake the fuck up! Before shit is too late!

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                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   19 hours ago

                    Whoop-de-doo, doo-doo eater. Why don't you make like a tree and leave while posting your Tim copypasta?

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                2. Chumby   20 hours ago

                  He gets eight visits to his website each month. So there is that.

                  The Church of Unread

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            2. Chumby   20 hours ago

              Sqrlsy pimping his website at the Democratic Underground:

              https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=465942

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   19 hours ago

                BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sqrlsy is just another Dem shill.

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              2. SQRLSY   18 hours ago

                Yes, thank PervFected You, http://www.churchofsqrls.com/sonograms/ is a pretty good web page! Religious freedoms for EVERYONE, even for "slutty" inferior sub-human women who would like to get a religious-ritual symbolic abortion! I agree!

                (They should be allowed to have their EFFIGIES ritually shamed by the shaming wand, instead of themselves, that is, before getting a REAL abortion, to be "clear" about it.)

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                1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

                  More gibberish.

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    3. MollyGodiva   1 day ago

      It takes a true MAGA to look at a fascist proposal and reject it in favor of an even more fascist proposal.

      MAGAs are the biggest enemy to the free world.

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      1. AT   1 day ago

        The real kick in the pants is that I'm not MAGA.

        OG#NT, Bluesky NPC.

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      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

        Wut? Red flag laws are almost exclusively in the dems domain. See blue states governors.

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        1. MollyGodiva   1 day ago

          Are you really that dumb or do you make an effort?

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          1. TJJ2000   1 day ago

            LOL... Ya. It takes a real genius to think [D]emocrats are the Gun-Rights party... /s
            "It wasn't us! It's all Trumps Fault!" /s

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          2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

            https://www.housedems.ct.gov/node/17937

            https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/08/30/why-the-libs-red-flag-law-narrative-doesnt-work-with-the-minneapolis-shooter-n2662501

            https://www.axios.com/2024/06/26/house-democrats-red-flag-gun-discharge-petition

            Need more doc retard?

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          3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

            Considering that you lower the average IQ in this commentariat by double digits by yourself, you're not exactly one to talk, Dr. Retard.

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          4. DesigNate   17 hours ago

            I love that you’ve gotten feisty and catty. Keep it up, doc.

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          5. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   35 minutes ago

            Tony, you’re possibly the dumbest person ever to post here. Hank gets a pass because of his advanced dementia, and Hihn is dead.

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    4. Chumby   1 day ago

      As White Knight correctly points out…

      - Mike Laursen

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

        Mike Laursen 4 years ago
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        White Knight pointed out, correctly, that you are very logical, but quite unaware that you often engage in not seeking out information that goes against your narratives, garbage-in/garbage-out logic, and not checking your conclusions for basic sanity. You should have listened to White Knight.

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        1. Chumby   1 day ago

          Thanks for the detail. Reason jumped the shark when it began emulating White Mike’s behavior.

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

            It amazes me how many of them socking praise their socks. Qb has too.

            Here is ducksalad

            ducksalad 10 months ago
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            Actually, Chumpy, one thing I do have in common with Mike Laursen is that I think ENB is generally on the right side of things. Her main issue isn't my main issue but when she weighs in on other stuff it's usually pretty good.

            In general the Reason writers that piss off Jesse/Nardz are the best ones.

            Doesn't look like i saved qb.

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            1. Quicktown Brix   1 day ago

              Doesn't look like i saved qb.

              Here you go...it looks like I gave up defending Reason shortly after I started posting here though. I can't find any more recent

              Quicktown Brix 3 years ago
              Drug Dealers Are Now Being Charged With Human Trafficking

              Well they do host a website where commenters get to complain about them nonstop and accuse them of all kinds of crimes again humanity... I continue to be impressed that Reason tolerates us (mostly) ungrateful freeloaders.

              Quicktown Brix 3 years ago
              Federal Judges Uphold Texas Law Regulating What Social Media Platforms May Censor

              If Reason is so in favor of sensoring conservative viewpoint, why do they allow these comments on their own site?

              It's a credit to them they haven't shut down their comments a long time ago.

              Quicktown Brix 3 years ago
              Biden and Trump Repulse Voters as GOP Shows Signs of Becoming Normal Again

              I can see why you say that. I don't think Reason is nearly as bad as they are made out to be in the comments here. Last time I said this here, they published some blatant lefty crap that shut me up though. So... OK fair enough.

              Quicktown Brix 3 years ago
              Don't Criminalize Election Lies

              Because I'm making a legitimate point defending Reason? Nope.

              Just someone that doesn't understand why so many commenters that spend so much time here, hate it so much.

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              1. DesigNate   17 hours ago

                We’re not mad, just disappointed.

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            2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

              Yeah, come to think of it, where did Duck "White Mike" Salad go anyway?

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              1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   23 hours ago

                Not missed

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              2. Chumby   19 hours ago

                Turducken salad

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              3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   33 minutes ago

                Ritually raped and murdered during a home invasion by gangbanger illegals?

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    5. Sympatica   20 hours ago

      AT you need to move to Iran

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      1. charliehall   18 hours ago

        He would love North Korea!

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        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   32 minutes ago

          No, you’re the communist here. You guys always love totalitarian marxistarian regimes.

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    6. con_fuse9   18 hours ago

      Can we put Trump worshipers into sanitariums next?

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   31 minutes ago

        No, but we can out all you democrats in landfills if we decide to.

        You might want to keep that in mind, and learn your place.

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    7. MasterThief   8 hours ago

      The singling out of trannies is blatantly about catering to the current news cycle rather than the underlying problem. I'm not opposed to people who are severely mentally ill being barred from gun ownership but also can't see a means to construct the law to where it won't be abused and can do better than the most obvious extreme cases.

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    8. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   5 hours ago

      Tony is an example of who belongs in an insane asylum. He’s a non functional retard, and clinically delusional. This makes him a non functioning raving faggot.

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  3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

    The Justice Department hasn't issued any such rule yet, or attached a name to any of the statements leaking out to the press, so this all amounts to more of a trial balloon.

    Quite the assertion.

    No actual evidence but we know they are doing it. Journalism.

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    1. AT   1 day ago

      But CNN said...

      Also, according to the NYT...

      Mind you, we'll not verify any of this before breathlessly reporting on it. With framing. SAD framing, that makes you FEEL bad.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

        New age journalism is like reason, cite each other from the same anonymous sources to confirm the anonymous sources. No need to dig deeper.

        And when your anonymous sources prove to have lied, never shame them or admit fault. He'll even keep the awards you got for false reporting.

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        1. AT   1 day ago

          Also, they'll give themselves awards!

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

            Sometimes they will claim information or facts changed.

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        2. DesigNate   17 hours ago

          It worked so well with the “reporting” for the Steele Dossier that they decided to crank the dial to 11.

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    2. Chumby   1 day ago

      If you repeat a lie enough times it becomes journalism.

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  4. Chumby   1 day ago

    Red fag laws should not be invoked. The mentally ill gender cosplayers need visits from authorities as soon as they post their tranifesto threatening violence. That Masshole LGBTQ fat fuck Masshole got doxxed within an hour after suggesting more shootings need to occur at Christian schools. Dunno if Mass State Police paid him/her/it a visit.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

      “Tranifesto”

      Lol

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   5 hours ago

        I like that. And it will enrage the democrats.

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    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   5 hours ago

      “Red fag laws”

      That sounds Tony and Jeffy related.

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  5. Kungpowderfinger   1 day ago

    “Major Gun-Rights Groups Oppose the Trump Administration's Idea to Ban Trans People from Owning Guns”

    The headline got me thinking, I wonder where they got “The Trump Administration’s Idea” from?

    The Daily Wire first reported Thursday, based on anonymous Justice Department sources, that senior officials in the department are considering using their rulemaking authority to declare that trans people are mentally ill, stripping them of their Second Amendment rights. Other major news outlets re-reported the story.

    Yeah, whatever.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

      The ham sandwich thrower had to get a new job. Anonymous source is probably a step up for him.

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    2. Wizzle Bizzle   1 day ago

      Gun rights groups are correct to oppose the idea, as they do for pretty much anything that limits access to guns. And I'll give Reason a rare nod and say they are pretty unflinching on the gun issue.

      If we are going to have any limits on gun ownership, the mentally ill seem like a reasonable place to start. And given that gender dysphoria is still classified as a mental illness, hard to see how they/them don't qualify.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

        Not always.

        https://reason.com/2024/05/17/daniel-perrys-pardon-makes-a-mockery-of-self-defense/

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        1. Chumby   21 hours ago

          What was the editorial stance regarding Rittenhouse?

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   19 hours ago

            Britches first reported it for Reason here: https://reason.com/2020/08/26/2-dead-1-gunman-arrested-in-kenosha-riots-as-family-of-jacob-blake-calls-for-calm/

            Here's the search: https://reason.com/search/rittenhouse/

            Reason seemed supportive of Rittenhouse.

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            1. Chumby   17 hours ago

              Thanks

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  6. Wizzle Bizzle   1 day ago

    Let's tie both of today's stories together. What cutesie acronym are they going to come up with when they name this alleged bill they are totes writing? N.O. E.U.N.U.C.H.S.?

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

      C.h. can be crazy hos. Working on the rest.

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      1. Wizzle Bizzle   1 day ago

        Harder than it seems, right? Now imagine how much time your elected representatives spend on this shit.

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        1. AT   1 day ago

          New Opportunities Encouraging Utilizing New Underwear Championing Homosexual Sodomy.

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      2. Incunabulum   1 day ago

        This would seem to be a job for ChatGPT - probably the only thing it's good for.

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    2. MollyGodiva   1 day ago

      No bill, they would do it by fiat.

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      1. sarcasmic   1 day ago

        Laws of for democracies and republics. Trump rules by decree.

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        1. Wizzle Bizzle   1 day ago

          True. And Biden ruled by da REEEE. I don't like either of them. You only have a problem with one. Why is that?

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          1. sarcasmic   1 day ago

            You scored some points with my muted hate club. Bravo. Keep up with the lies and you can join them. Then you’ll be super cool like Jesse.

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            1. Wizzle Bizzle   1 day ago

              Good argument.

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              1. Chumby   1 day ago

                It isn’t sarc, it is everyone else. Not just in the comments but in real life too.

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                1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   28 minutes ago

                  That’s part of his lifelong, severe alcoholism. And why his wife left him after he abused their child.

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              2. sarcasmic   1 day ago

                Better than your “you only have a problem with one” perpetual lie that gets repeated ad nauseam by my hate club. I never supported or defended a single policy from the Biden administration. Not one. I don’t want to hike the income tax, I don’t support unvetted immigration, or anything else you guys lie about. The only people who think so are retards and liars.

                Which one are you?

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                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

                  Do I need to go back to the KMW thread to show you lying again?

                  sarcasmic 4 months ago
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                  Nothing says fiscal responsibility like decreasing revenue and increasing spending. Most libertarian president ever.

                  *swoon*

                  sarcasmic 2 months ago
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                  They did cut spending. Which is remarkable. However they also cut revenue even more. Which is irresponsible, stupid, and completely expected. Had they just cut spending while leaving taxes alone this would be a totally different story.

                  Reminder, leaving taxes alone meant the 2017 cuts expiring and raising income taxes by 4T.

                  Are you going to go with youre just retarded as a defense?

                  There are more in those BBB threads BTW.

                  The entire deficit you, boehm, KMW complained about in the BBB threads was from not raising income taxes retard. The bill cut spending. It extended the 2017 cuts.

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                2. Chumby   20 hours ago

                  https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/alcoholinduced-liver-disease

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                3. sarcasmic   18 hours ago

                  Don’t have to look at lying Jesse’s comment to know it is words taken out of context and or deliberately misconstrued. Same lies, different day.

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                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 hours ago

                    They are your entire full posts retard.

                    God damn youre a drunken pathetic loser lol.

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                4. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   28 minutes ago

                  You support all those things. We base that on your comment history where you do.

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            2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

              You get so angry when the left is criticized.

              I still rembwr you defended student loan forgiveness before you found out you didn't qualify. Lol.

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            3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

              Dang, you're demented right now. The only "hate club" are those you hate and claim to mute.

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          2. MollyGodiva   1 day ago

            The Second American Civil War can not come soon enough.

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            1. sarcasmic   1 day ago

              Be careful what you wish for. Because if there is another civil war, no matter who wins we all lose.

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              1. MollyGodiva   1 day ago

                It is the only way to defeat MAGAs and possibly pull the US out of fascism.

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                1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

                  You mean defeat the guys who own guns?

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                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

                    No, he means defeat the guys stopping the socialists in his party.

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                2. sarcasmic   18 hours ago

                  The winner will be leftist fascism or Trump fascism. Only difference being who does the controlling and what they control.

                  They can’t be defeated at this point because they don’t care about the constitution or rule of law. They don’t care about elections or courts. They don’t care about rights and principles. All they care about is getting what they want and hurting people the hate. So they can’t be defeated at the ballot box because they don’t care. They can’t be defeated by laws because they don’t care. And they have more guns. This is the end of the republic. Hold on and enjoy the ride.

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                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 hours ago

                    More false rants of you pretending to be principled while youve supported most of the authoritarian shit under Biden.

                    Also weird you still dont know what fascism is. Calling a president pushing mass deregulation fascism is hilarious.

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            2. AT   1 day ago

              We're deporting all your soldiers.

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              1. Chumby   20 hours ago

                They still will have the unsullied, of which he’s a member.

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                1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   23 minutes ago

                  Pretty sure Tony is sullied multiple times every weekend at his local bathhouse.

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            3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   24 minutes ago

              You do realize that your kind will be slaughtered with a speed and brutality you can scarcely imagine, right? Or do you not understand that being a bunch of limpwristed, testosterone deficient pussies that don’t know your way around firearms, understand tactics, or have probably not ever been in a real fight in your life might not work in your favor?

              Then there’s the very real fact that your kind also owns very few firearms doesn’t help you either. But good luck with that. I would love a legal pretext to exterminate the democrat party and every last pinko slithering around my country.

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        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

          Sarc again argues from imagination.

          Every EO has cited the relevant laws and constitution. You'd know this if you watched more than Maddow.

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          1. MollyGodiva   1 day ago

            Ya they cite them, but wrong.

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            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

              According to inferior activist judges. Whats the record at appeals and SCOTUS doc retard?

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              1. MollyGodiva   21 hours ago

                So far none on the merits, so known. But SCOTUS has orange lips, so we know how they will rule.

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                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   21 hours ago

                  Lol. God damn. Keep doubling down doc.

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                2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   19 hours ago

                  So you are avoiding answering. You're avoiding the answer as you know these activist Democrat judges are getting majorly spanked at the Appeals Court and Supreme Court levels.

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                3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   22 minutes ago

                  Tony. You make all these claims and never back them up. You’re just a raving faggot, and a pinko traitor.

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    3. AT   1 day ago

      International Health Affirming Taskforce Empowering Transgender Rescues Under Malicious Persecution.

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      1. Wizzle Bizzle   1 day ago

        Fuck it, you win.

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      2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

        Sounds like a bill Sarc could love.

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      3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   21 minutes ago

        Yep, you win.

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  7. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

    Wrong spot.

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  8. sarcasmic   1 day ago

    Shoot the messenger!

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

      Or call out the consistent lies you and your ilk rely on ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Then again you keep repeating trump is ending elections.

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

      Problem is, you're not a messenger. You're merely a drunk fool.

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  9. sarcasmic   1 day ago

    One more thing to add to the long list of things that Trump and his defenders have in common with leftists: they use mass shootings as an opportunity to impose gun control.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

      Do you have an actual cite? Even in this thread nobody is agreeing with the anonymous law retard.

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    2. DesigNate   16 hours ago

      Considering the number of “anonymous sources” that have turned out to be media/resistance fabricated bullshit, I’d take this with a large grain of salt.

      Having said that: Red flag laws are 100% an infringement, so fuck that shit.

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  10. Kungpowderfinger   1 day ago

    Maybe the tranny community should run with this, try to form a partnership with major gun rights groups:

    “I’m Sam Brinton, and I am the NRA”

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    1. Chumby   1 day ago

      “I’m Rachel Levine. I’m in the NRA and always packing.”

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    2. Incunabulum   1 day ago

      I'm pretty sure stealing from an airport makes you a prohibited person;)

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  11. Mickey Rat   1 day ago

    The Trump Administration has issued no such proposal. All we have is reporting that someone in the Administration suggested such a rule. It does not confirm that the Administration is going forward with proposing such a rule. Reason jumping the gun again in order to put out two articles of pearl clutching Trump criticism over what may be nothing.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

      But the assertion is enough for the trump haters and Maddow watchers.

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    2. sarcasmic   1 day ago

      If the rumor turns out to be true I bet it will be defended like every other attack on that hated group.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 day ago

        Cite an example retard. Unlike you and your precious democrats, we actually criticize the GOP and trump.

        If it is another false story will you stop watching maddow?

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      2. DesigNate   16 hours ago

        What “attacks” on the hated group?

        Edit: Genuinely asking for what you consider attacks.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 hours ago

          Accountability. Sarcs worst nightmare.

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    3. Moonrocks   6 hours ago

      All we have is reporting that someone in the Administration suggested such a rule

      Correction: all we have is some guy claiming to know another guy that heard a different guy say something about such a rule.

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  12. Use the Schwartz   1 day ago

    4473 - Rainbow Edition

    o. Have you ever had your genitalia or gonads removed for cosmetic reasons? Refer to "g."

    "anonymous Justice Department sources"

    Oh nevermind, this is all rumor.

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  13. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   1 day ago

    Clearly we need common sence fag control, and fag free zones

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  14. Gaear Grimsrud   1 day ago

    So CJ admits there is no evidence that any of this has happened but declares it an administration "trial balloon". It's Saturday CJ. You worked overtime for this? The TDS is strong with this one.

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  15. Incunabulum   1 day ago

    >The NRA says

    Regardless of my feelings on the issue, no one cares what the NRA thinks except their personal tailors and yacht builders.

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  16. AT   1 day ago

    https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/missouri-armed-ice-raid-two-people-charged-illegally-harboring-immigrants-st-charles-county/63-c0f831da-a465-470d-9e4e-cad3d19a647f

    Oh ho! A twofer!

    Let's hope this is the next step in the ICE crackdown - round up the illegals and arrest their boarders and/or employers!

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  17. Rick James   1 day ago

    Someone needs to post that meme of the liberal dude sweating over the two red buttons, "Deny trans kids guns/Join arms with the NRA and support the 2nd amendment"

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    1. Sam Bankman-Fried   21 hours ago

      You could do the same thing with Planned Parenthood clinics in the middle of Baltimore but have it as a sweating Republican making the decision.

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      1. Chumby   21 hours ago

        It is still folks mostly in one party supporting the death of unborn black babies. A more sophisticated version of the Confederacy and the ku klux klan. The racist Shrike must love this.

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        1. charliehall   18 hours ago

          Fetuses aren't babies.

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          1. Chumby   17 hours ago

            Fuck off genocidal racist.

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  18. Sympatica   20 hours ago

    Come on DT get off it. That is shear BS.

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  19. charliehall   18 hours ago

    The NRA supported the ban on open carry that Ronald Reagan signed into law in 1967. It was enacted to prevent the Black Panthers from open carrying rifles into the California State House.

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    1. sarcasmic   17 hours ago

      That’s like when Trump defenders say the Klan was Democrats to imply that today’s Democrats are all violent racists.

      It’s an irrelevant and dishonest ad hominem like so many of their arguments.

      Don’t stoop to their level. Don’t be like them. Don’t be scum.

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      1. DesigNate   16 hours ago

        I’m not sure that counts as an ad hominem (more an association fallacy?), but even if I’m right that it’s not, it’s still a lazy revisionist attempt at a troll. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

        A truly bipartisan bill, and proof that when the two parties work together they can achieve great things (like clearly unconstitutional, shitty laws).

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      2. charliehall   8 hours ago

        The two Klan members who were elected Governors in Indiana and Colorado in 1924 were both Republicans. As usual, the truth is the opposite of what MAGA claims.

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        1. DesigNate   4 hours ago

          https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/grant-kkk/

          I’ll just leave this here.

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      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 hours ago

        The party primarily concerned about race remains democrats you democrat shill.

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    2. Brett Bellmore   9 hours ago

      That was back when the NRA leadership were still convinced that the gun controllers were going to win in the end, and saw their job as slowing the process by tactical surrenders. It took a membership revolt to get the NRA into the business of actually opposing gun control, rather than just trying to moderate it.

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      1. charliehall   8 hours ago

        There was no moderation in the Mulford Act and the largely White NRA was terrified of Black people having guns.

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  20. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 hours ago

    I am always in favor of forcing people to live under the rules they promote. Anyone who votes for Democrats, trans or not, should surrender all firearms, knives, and pointy sticks.

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  21. Rob Misek   7 hours ago

    I’ve always said that every sexuality other than heterosexuality is either a choice or a disorder.

    As a choice, sexual reassignment surgery resulting in the sterilization of the patient, would be elective and certainly not available to children.

    As the mental disorder gender dysphoria the disordered could certainly be disqualified from many decision making privileges including gun ownership.

    Who wants to be responsible to allow the insane to carry guns? They certainly don’t constitute a “well regulated militia”.

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  22. I, Woodchipper   5 hours ago

    they should be in mental asylums and the question of guns is moot then

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  23. Uncle Jay   4 hours ago

    If banning firearms from trannies, who is next?

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  24. Bruce Hayden   3 hours ago

    It’s political, not serious. The purpose is to drive a wedge between the anti gunners and transgendered in the Dem coalition, while highlighting that school and other mass shooters are invariably mentally unstable, and, the very tiny community of transgendered provided roughly half of recent such shooters. Probably more F2M, but the latest was M2F, regretting their decision to change sex. Thus, if you are going to implement red flag laws, younger transgendered have to be at the very top of the list. Take your pick Dems. Do you want red flag laws? Or to support the transgendered? You can’t have both.

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