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Immigration

Not So Fast, ICE

Plus: Rogue sheriffs, Trump life coaching, Trump family cryptocurrency, and more…

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 9.2.2025 9:30 AM

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Labor Day rally in downtown Los Angeles. Hundreds of people rallied and marched from LA City Hall to the Federal Detention Center to protest against recent ICE raids and unlawful detentions. Several protesters were arrested by DHS Police officers at the Metropolitan Detention Center. 9/1/2025 Los Angeles, CA., USA (Photo by Ted Soqui/Sipa News Photo) (Ted Soqui/Sipa USA/Newscom)

Not so fast, ICE: People who enter the country illegally may still "have a weighty liberty interest in remaining here and therefore must be afforded due process under the Fifth Amendment," a new federal court ruling says.

The decision strikes a blow against the Trump administration's expanded "expedited removal" policy for undocumented migrants and threatens President Donald Trump's mass deportation plans. The expanded application "was widely considered a key tool for the administration to swiftly carry out deportations," notes Marianne LeVine at The Washington Post.

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An expedited removal policy has long been used to deport people apprehended near the U.S.-Mexico border after entering the country within the two weeks prior. But under a new Homeland Security policy issued in January, the Trump administration sought to apply expedited removal to illegal immigrants found anywhere in the country, even if they had been here for a significant amount of time.

Since then, the Trump administration has "made aggressive use of its newly expanded expedited removal power," as U.S. District Judge Jia M. Cobb put it in her opinion, issued Friday. "When people have appeared in immigration courts for their normally paced immigration proceedings, for instance, the Government has moved to dismiss those proceedings, promptly arrested individuals inside of those courts, and then shuttled them into much faster moving—and much less procedurally robust—expedited removal proceedings. Days later, these people find themselves removed."

"In defending this skimpy process, the Government makes a truly startling argument: that those who entered the country illegally are entitled to no process under the Fifth Amendment, but instead must accept whatever grace Congress affords them," noted Cobb. "Were that right, not only noncitizens, but everyone would be at risk. The Government could accuse you of entering unlawfully, relegate you to a bare-bones proceeding where it would 'prove' your unlawful entry, and then immediately remove you. By merely accusing you of entering unlawfully, the Government would deprive you of any meaningful opportunity to disprove its allegations."

The judge suggests that "prioritizing speed over all else will inevitably lead the Government to erroneously remove people via this truncated process," since "most noncitizens living in the interior have been here longer than two years, rendering them ineligible for expedited removal, and many are seeking asylum or another form of
immigration relief, entitling them to further process before they can be removed."

Cobb temporarily halted the administration's power to engage in speed deportations of people found far from the border.

This isn't about trying to upend the expedited removal process in general, Cobb stressed. "For nearly three decades, the federal government has subjected noncitizens apprehended at the border to fast-paced summary removal. Using that procedure, these people are quickly turned back across the border, typically after a single conversation with an immigration officer."

But "in applying the statute to a huge group of people living in the interior of the country who have not previously been subject to expedited removal, the Government must afford them due process," Cobb wrote.


Scenes from Ohio: Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost said that while county jails can hold people for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for more than 48 hours and help transport them, they can only do this under arrangements made between county commissioners and federal immigration authorities. "The sheriff, however, does not have independent contracting authority for this purpose," opined Yost. That renders a lot of what's going on in Ohio jails illegal, says the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Ohio. "The people detained under these invalid agreements are being held unconstitutionally and must be released immediately," ACLU of Ohio Legal Director Freda Levenson said.


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  1. Chumby   11 hours ago

    Slippery Slope

    Just let us get married.

    Just bake our cake, that’s all.

    Just use our pronouns.

    Let us dance in drag for your children.

    Let teachers choose your children’s pronouns.

    Let us buy infants from surrogates.

    The demons are telling me to kill Christians. <— you are here

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

      Would those demons be elected officials, university professors, and serious media figures?

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    2. chemjeff radical individualist   11 hours ago

      Wait wait, the slippery slope from gay marriage inevitably leads to the murder of Christians? How does that work exactly?

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      1. Chumby   11 hours ago

        Another tranny school shooter this time targeting a Christian school followed by some LGBTQ Masshole calling for more of this (the community doxxed his ass within an hour). Just sharing the post from a libertarian channel. Next time a tranifesto hits social media, it needs to responded to with extreme alacrity.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 hours ago

          So why do you think legal gay marriage leads to this?

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          1. Chumby   10 hours ago

            Government should be out of the marriage business and leave that to religious organizations. It wasn’t about filing as a couple on (unlibertarian) income taxes or getting picked up by the top’s insurance (which should be determined by the insurance company) but a shot across the bow on religion. Recently, the shots were not aimed at the bow.

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            1. Liberty_Belle   9 hours ago

              No, we've been over this. Marriage is a government matter, born of the need to transfer property orderly and to gain alliances. People stuck religion in it afterwards because the only way to get superstitious dirt-farmers to behave is tell that the boogyman will get them for not following the rules. Thereafter , it became a religious thing because we made it so. Marriage pre-dates religion not the other way around.

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              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 hours ago

                Marriage pre-dates religion not the other way around.

                Where the fuck did you get this ahistorical nonsense from? Religion has been a part of the fabric of human society since pre-history.

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                1. Liberty_Belle   9 hours ago

                  When did religion become involved?
                  As the Christian church became a powerful institution in Europe, the blessings of a priest became increasingly common. Through the years, "there have been differing views about whether weddings are primarily religious or secular events," said the Christian-based Nelson University. For "much of the early Christian Era, the Church stayed out of weddings and let the state handle the union of man and woman." But by the eighth century, Christian churches started to perform weddings, and the ritual became widely accepted as a sacrament.

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                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 hours ago

                    Are you really that stupid that you think there weren't religions before Christianity, or did you just copypasta that AI slop because of your limited intellectual capabilities?

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                    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 hours ago

                      Both.

                    2. Liberty_Belle   4 hours ago

                      You didn't even try to look that up did you ? Of course not. Or else you would know that is a title header and not an AI prompt. From Hindu to Zoroastrians (the oldest poly & monotheistic religions respectively) , marriage followed tribal customs prior to the formation of mumbo jumbo BS organized religions. Try going to a museum .

                  2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   7 hours ago

                    Marriage is a sacrament in most religions. It existed before the politics.

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                  3. NealAppeal   6 hours ago

                    U.S. state governments got involved in marriage licensing to prevent miscegenation. No doubt racist southern Democrat driven.

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              2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

                The only government interest in marriage is contract law which can be done with... actual contracts. Instead of the vague, ever changing conditions applied to state marriage legal guidance.

                There is zero government requirements for marriage that cant be done from legal documents. Even things like power of attorney are often done with legal documents instead of state assumptions on marriage.

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              3. Zeb   9 hours ago

                And religion predates government. I don't see how you can even know what you claim to be true.

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              4. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

                "Marriage pre-dates religion not the other way around"

                This is the most retarded horseshit I've seen all day. The Shigir Idol and Gobekli Tepe were millennia before government recognized social partnership contracts.

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              5. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

                And when it predated religion it also predated government.

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              6. Fats of Fury   7 hours ago

                Is that in your manifesto?

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            2. chemjeff radical individualist   8 hours ago

              This is bullshit. Gay marriage was never about tearing down religion. It was about equal rights.

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              1. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

                For a gay person it was about being able to have their marriage recognized by the government.
                For sinister fucks like you it was 100% about tearing down religion.

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              2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 hours ago

                Do you think people have the right to force a church to marry them?

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                1. Fats of Fury   6 hours ago

                  Right after the SCOTUS legalized SS marriage some fag wrote he will continue to fight until he can parade down the aisle of Saint Patrick Cathedral in NYC and force them to marry him.

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                  1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   6 hours ago

                    Was his name Lying Jeffy?

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                    1. Fats of Fury   6 hours ago

                      I wrote parade not waddle.

                    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   5 hours ago

                      Elephants on parade?

                2. Lester75   5 hours ago

                  Nobody has the right to 'force a church to marry them'. Gay marriage is all about the state/government definition of marriage. The religious definition is entirely separate. The law that allowed gay marriage didn't force any church to do anything. No one has *every* sued a church for not conducting a marriage.

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                  1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   5 hours ago

                    I was asking Lying Jeffy his opinion.

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              3. Uilleam   8 hours ago

                What right? Its about social engineering; there is no right to marriage you fat pedo.

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              4. Chumby   1 hour ago

                False.

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          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

            No, dipshit. Hard core progressive politics led to this. Gay marriage was just their launch pad.

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            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 hours ago

              Just a quick reminder that "queer" diesel dyke Gayle Rubin included pedophilia as part of the collective of "forbidden" sexual proclivities that included transgenderism in western society during the early 80s in "Thinking Sex." Judith Butler has also expressed some rather fucked-up arguments behind a thornbush of word salads in favor of incest.

              Modern transgenderism owes its existence to the pseudo-intellectual arguments of mentally ill lesbian feminists, as well as earlier pervert "sexologists" like John Money and Alfred Kinsey. Foucault and Beauvoir supported getting rid of age of consent laws. These "philosophers," "intellectuals," and "scientists" are all a bunch of pedophiles.

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              1. Uilleam   8 hours ago

                Moral relativism, i.e. enlightenment, is always an excuse for the worst behavior.

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                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

                  It's a new form of religious privilege.

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    3. Minadin   10 hours ago

      Over the weekend, an Australian woman was convicted of misgendering 2 trans 'women' (dudes) who have faced complaints over their aggressive play in the women's soccer leagues down there, causing injuries to biological women. She faces a potential $200k fine / restitution payment.

      https://x.com/ReduxxMag/status/1962553022287888837

      Meanwhile, in the UK, a comedian was arrested when his plane landed at Heathrow because of 3 Twitter posts critical of the trans movement.

      https://substack.com/@grahamlinehan

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

        EU: where complaining about child rapists online garners longer prison sentences than does child rape.

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        1. Mickey Rat   9 hours ago

          Those tweets are violence against the child rapist communities.

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        2. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

          And many of those prison terms were given to the child rape victims for saying mean things about their rapists. You couldn't make this stuff up.

          I'm against the death penalty but the people who are pushing this need to pay dearly.

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      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

        As I have said before, it is time for the Great Global Sort. We can divide the continents into homelands for ideologies. North America for callous free-thinkers. Snowflakes, kreptocrats, and commies can fight over the others.

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        1. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

          North America, specifically the left coast of the US is where 98% of this stuff originates, and the US taxpayer is the one who spread it via USAID.

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      3. Chumby   10 hours ago

        Using biological pronouns instead of cosplay ones is like riding around with a bear in one’s trunk.

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

          Is that bear a him, her, or them?

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          1. Chumby   9 hours ago

            Yogxi the bear

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      4. Minadin   10 hours ago

        Oh, and NBC news apologized for misgendering the trans school shooter up in Minneapolis:

        https://x.com/Timcast/status/1962858658594799880

        While maintaining that the motive in this incident remains a 'mystery'.

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        1. mamabug   10 hours ago

          He was just helping women to achieve equity in the school shooter space.

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      5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

        Ireland just sent armed officers to arrest the writer of The IT Crowd for dare saying men and women are different. Meanwhile lots of rape rape going on.

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

          Dude, only white people can commit "crime".

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

            At least that's what modern dramas on TV say.

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    4. JFree   7 hours ago

      Your puns are better than your fears

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      1. Chumby   2 hours ago

        I fear you might one day evolve beyond a double-digit IQ troll. I agree, that’s not going to happen.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

    People who enter the country illegally may still "have a weighty liberty interest in remaining here..."

    Yeah, to liberate the American taxpayer of his resources!

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    1. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

      Am I right, people?

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      1. Chumby   11 hours ago

        I think ENB was referring to food trucks and Mexican ass sex for their elitist urban betters.

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        1. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

          Oh, yeah. ENB is back at it. How long has this been going on?

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        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

          Don't forget discount child care, housekeeping, and restaurant staff.

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        3. charliehall   10 hours ago

          My wife was born in Mexico, you racist bigot.

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          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

            Did you smuggle her in?

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            1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   9 hours ago

              He paid a cyote quite a bit for her

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          2. Chumby   10 hours ago

            And he pounds you in the ass regularly, am I right you racist bigot?

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          3. Minadin   10 hours ago

            My dad was, too. So?

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          4. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 hours ago

            2015 called and wants its thought-stopping power words back.

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            1. Chumby   9 hours ago

              Waiting for charlie to drop a “Smooth move Exlax” mic drop moment. The mic drop will have occurred as a result of his shaking boomer hands more than the belief he won a debate since deep down he knows he gets PWNED in every contested discussion.

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              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   5 hours ago

                He. Went. To. Harvard.

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                1. Chumby   2 hours ago

                  I don’t doubt that Uber delivers there.

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          5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 hours ago

            Does she work in a food truck?

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            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   5 hours ago

              Of course. That’s where the ass sex happens.

              Duh.

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              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   5 hours ago

                So she’s also a big booty Latina?

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          6. Diarrheality   1 hour ago

            My wife was born in Mexico, you racist bigot.

            "Mexican" is not a race, idiot.

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            1. Chumby   1 hour ago

              And neither does location of the birth convey what race the person is.

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      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

        The same argument can be used to justify the crimes of any criminal.

        Reason loves these nonsensical judges no matter how many times they get overturned.

        This one is extra funny as this judge overruled decades of precedence based on a congressional law. But these judges all use the law as a way to be cute and argue around clearly defined words.

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        1. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

          They know it will get tossed by the next court to look at it; but in the meantime they get back pats and attaboys at the club, and promises of corporate board positions and seats on NGOs when they retire.

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          1. Chumby   3 hours ago

            Like a ranked choice voting state where some can vote for the Chase Oliver type unserious candidate first before reverting back to the Harris-Walz vote they were always going to eventually cast?

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        2. Vernon Depner   5 hours ago

          The same argument can be used to justify the crimes of any criminal.

          Exactly. That's why the progs want to defund the police and close the prisons.

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    2. Bubba Jones   5 hours ago

      I think the real issue is that depriving illegal immigrants of due process first presupposes that they are illegal immigrants.

      I think if President AOC starts deporting Kentucky crackers ... actually no one will care.

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  3. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

    The judge suggests that "prioritizing speed over all else..."

    I wonder if this judge regularly approves expedient plea deals in his court.

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  4. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

    The sheriff, however, does not have independent contracting authority for this purpose...

    Not all elected county officials are equal.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

      Is the Sheriff near?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   11 hours ago

        No, gone blame it dang blammit! The sheriff is a ni...

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

          Ah, authentic frontier gibberish.

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  5. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

    The president is moonlighting as a life coach now.

    I miss the days when the president was only our dad and our boss.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

      The feminization of government continues.

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      1. Chumby   9 hours ago

        It was she/her turn.

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      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   9 hours ago

        If kamala was elected she would commission a $10billion live laugh love monument

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        1. Chumby   9 hours ago

          If there were another astroturf Kamala-child actors-NASA astroturf video offering, there’d be some laughs there.

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    2. Anomalous   7 hours ago

      He's the kind of life coach that will tell you "walk it off, you pussy."

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  6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

    'People who enter the country illegally may still "have a weighty liberty interest in remaining here and therefore must be afforded due process under the Fifth Amendment," a new federal court ruling says.'

    Cool. Does this ethic apply to some guy in your house, or in your underpants?

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    1. Vernon Depner   11 hours ago

      People who enter our country illegally have no legitimate interest in remaining here at all.

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      1. MollyGodiva   11 hours ago

        What if they were brought here as a baby and made a life here, got a job, have a family? Do they have no legitimate interest in remaining here?

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   10 hours ago

          Why didn’t they have any interest in being a legitimate citizen?

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          1. MollyGodiva   10 hours ago

            Using what legal path?

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            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

              Yeah, if only we did not have rules for legal immigration.

              Oh, kill yourself.

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            2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

              Leaving the country for a year and applying for a legal visa doc retard.

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            3. VinniUSMC   10 hours ago

              Using what legal path?

              No one knows. It's impossible to say.

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              1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   5 hours ago

                IT TAKES 30 YEARS!!!!! ARRRRGH!!!

                AND YOU HAVE A BEAR IN YOUR TRUNK!!!!

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            4. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

              Using what legal path?

              Here, let me help: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate.html

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            5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   7 hours ago

              You’re very good at playing dumb.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   6 hours ago

                I somehow doubt it’s an act.

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                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   5 hours ago

                  Tony is proof reddit should get banned.

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                  1. Chumby   3 hours ago

                    We would have never found put about akitas if it were not for AskGayBros reddit.

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        2. damikesc   10 hours ago

          Sounds rough.

          Also sounds like not our problem.

          If their father robbed you for millions, they would not have the right to keep the money that was stolen from you.

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        3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

          They do not.

          Does the child of a bank robber have a legitimate claim to what was stolen?

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          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

            What skin colors are we talking about?

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            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

              Somalian asylum seekers on Minnesota? Have actually seen the arguments that those arrested for the fake food companies shouldn't be prosecuted. Despite the millions stolen from government.

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          2. Fats of Fury   6 hours ago

            No, but the IRS claims a legitimate right to tax the thief for the stolen money.

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        4. Vernon Depner   5 hours ago

          What if they were brought here as a baby...

          It's horrible that their parents did that to them.

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      2. charliehall   10 hours ago

        They still have the same due process rights as you and me.

        And Trump rarely prosecutes them.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

          For a lot of them, they’ve had process and got deportation orders. That is due process, even if it’s not the due process you want.

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

            They will continue to intentionally misunderstand what due process means, it is a common tactic of the left to repeat a false claim over and over to try to establish a baseline floor for debate.

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            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 hours ago

              When they say "due process," what they mean is "inifinite court cases and appeals until they die or amnesty," not actual due process. Same thing with "democracy," which to them means "our team's political hegemony," not actual democracy.

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              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

                What?!? Progressives make up new meanings for words?

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  7. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

    Raw milk momentum is turning sour in Florida.

    These milk puns need to be put out to pasture.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

      Too cheesy?

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

        Curd be!

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

          Should refresh before punning. Chumby was in whey before.

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          1. Kungpowderfinger   11 hours ago

            Becoming udderly predictable

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   11 hours ago

              Yet titillating.

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            2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

              This cud go further. We are just skimming the surface here.

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          2. Chumby   11 hours ago

            I posted prior by a skim margin. No worries.

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            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

              I demand to be made whole!

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

                Best I can do is 2%.

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    2. Chumby   11 hours ago

      They still play well in Curdistan.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

        What about in Jersey?

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  8. Medulla Oblongata   11 hours ago

    UK:

    https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1961092013698293945

    If you're wondering why the UK Home Office is arguing that the rights of illegal migrants trumps those of British citizens

    Just remember, this is the Home Office

    [must-see photo]

    This applies to UK as well as Judge Cobb maybe:

    https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1962158763592339546

    WTF have I just watched?!

    Labour MP Bridget Phillipson is asked if she agrees with the Home Office that the rights of illegal migrants are more important than the rights of the people of Epping.

    "Yes, of course we do"

    They don't even bother to hide it.
    Utterly vile.

    https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1962158763592339546

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    1. Chumby   11 hours ago

      The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

        Wait, which one is Hitler now?

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        1. Chumby   11 hours ago

          That was a quote from the onset of the Great War. The Austrian painter did participate in that, but as a message runner and not as a leader spreading national socialism.

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          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

            My bad. But "Kaiser!" doesn't epithet as well.

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            1. Chumby   10 hours ago

              Wilhelm? Kaiser Bill was the English (later American) monicker.

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    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

      You can’t have chicks in charge.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

        Including Starmer.

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        1. Chumby   11 hours ago

          And Macron

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      2. Lester75   5 hours ago

        Nope gotta put those chicks in veils with only their eyes showing so they don't tempt the uncontrollable impulses of the alpha males who have been insufferably oppressed.

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        1. Chumby   1 hour ago

          Like with Islam?

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    3. charliehall   10 hours ago

      You need better links that actually have quotes. Otherwise I assume you are completely misrepresenting the facts.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

        The irony as you do exactly that. Make assertions without a single citation or link.

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      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 hours ago

        The quote is from the embedded video, you disingenuous neocon cockroach.

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      3. Medulla Oblongata   8 hours ago

        You can watch the entire interview for yourself. But the question and answer are at 8:02 into the interview. After many attempts to get her to answer the questions, finally at 12:37 [do you agree with what your layers said about the rights of migrants trumping the rights of citizens] "Yes, of course we do."

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ikgrEVALM&ab_channel=SkyNews

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   7 hours ago

          He’s not going to watch this.

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    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

      Read this this morning. Vile.

      Globalists, and in reality cultural Marxists, need to be removed from any form of power.

      Ironically it is the same bullshit we have been calling jeffsarc and mollysarc out for. Putting criminals and illegals above citizens.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

        See my comment about sorting people by ideology among continents. We can then just remove people.

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      2. chemjeff radical individualist   9 hours ago

        Putting criminals and illegals above citizens.

        In JesseBot-speak, "putting criminals above citizens" means granting criminals any rights whatsoever.

        "What, you want to give the criminal a TRIAL? And spend all that taxpayer money on them? Why do you love criminals and hate taxpayer citizens so much?"

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        1. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

          Fuck off you trash paid-shill. You calling anyone else here a "bot" is the height of hypocrisy.

          Also, there is well established due process for people who are actually illegally in the country, that is common to every other nation on earth. You don't get a Supreme Court appeal when the very fact that you are illegally in the country is proven by the fact that you are illegally in the country right then.

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        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   7 hours ago

          Either you’ve completely ignored the information in this very thread, or you’re lying, Lying Jeffy.

          Either way you’re filth.

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          1. Chumby   1 hour ago

            He’s a pathological liar and that is not even his worst trait.

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      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 hours ago

        This is the way it is with globalists generally. "Foreigners first, citizens last" is their core principle, since foreigners are far easier to buy off with gibs and far easier to wind up as shock troops against western civilization than working class citizens. It's been that way since the end of World War II, and it's not an accident that this is actually largely pushed by upper class elites, academia, and social status chasers in the upper middle class, not blue-collar unions.

        That's why the political left recoils in disgust when a nation's flag is flown in any other context outside carefully curated settings like the Olympics or sporting events, while sociopolitical flags like the tranny/peeoohsee flag are given precedence and legal protections to the point of jailing people who desecrate them. For the cuckservative right, the nation's flag is just laundry to cloak their forever war and open borders "invade the world, invite the world" policies, such as the "shining city on a hill" nonsense that Reagan constantly invoked, because like the Puritans, he mistakenly believed that the City of God could exist on earth as the City of Man.

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  9. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

    The rollout of the United Kingdom's Online Safety Act continues to be a disaster.

    Though better not tweet so, innit.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   11 hours ago

      The authoritarians ruling Britain do not see it as a disaster.

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    2. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

      Apophasis might be your friend here...

      "I would NEVER say that the Online Safety Act is an unmitigated disaster and an affront to freedom of speech, because that would be a violation of the Online Safety Act."

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    3. mad.casual   10 hours ago

      "Roaches scurrying to their hidey holes continues to be a disaster for people turning on the lights."

      We're talking about ENB, WaPo, and the same porn producers/creators who don't oppose Operation Chokepoint out loud when their guy is in office, but openly lament when a Republican who pays off porn stars wins an election. They'll conflate the US's "Are you over 18?" checkboxes with any/all UK subversion of rights (that subjects of the crown don't have) in order to make it look like if you aren't cheering the sexualization of children at your public library you're an authoritarian bigot.

      We know this because they just did it two fucking weeks ago.

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  10. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

    The Trump family's cryptocurrency launched yesterday.

    I'm fine turning all of the NSA datacenters' compute power into mining this.

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  11. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

    Wait, is this the Roundup for today? If so, is this the weakest effort ever?

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   11 hours ago

      Seems likely on both counts.

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    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   9 hours ago

      I’m gonna give Terrible Liz a pass on this, she may have been a last minute fill-in.
      Plus, the meager volume just spares us from all the the Matt Yglesias and Mike Masnick garbage takes she so loves

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  12. Medulla Oblongata   11 hours ago

    There seems to be a theme in the naming convention of these people getting nailed for SNAP fraud...

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/chicago-grocery-store-owner-sentenced-three-and-half-years-prison-fraudulently

    CHICAGO — The owner of a Chicago grocery store has been sentenced to three and a half years in federal prison for fraudulently redeeming millions of dollars in benefits under the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (“SNAP”) and the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (“WIC”).

    YOUSEF ABU ALHAWA owned a grocery store in the Chicago Lawn neighborhood on Chicago’s Southwest Side. From 2011 to 2019, Alhawa fraudulently redeemed or caused to redeem SNAP and WIC benefits for non-eligible items or cash, and redeemed SNAP and WIC benefits on behalf of stores ineligible to participate in SNAP and WIC. Alhawa admitted in a plea agreement with the government that he caused a loss to those programs of more than $8.3 million.

    Previously on DOJ SNAP fruad...

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/usda-employee-and-five-others-charged-multimillion-dollar-food-stamp-fraud-and-bribery

    [T]he Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”), announced the unsealing of a Superseding Indictment charging six individuals in connection with a sprawling fraud and bribery scheme that generated over $66 million in unauthorized transactions under the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (“SNAP”)—colloquially known as food stamps. This is one of the largest food stamp frauds in U.S. history. The defendants—MICHAEL KEHOE, MOHAMAD NAWAFLEH, OMAR ALRAWASHDEH, GAMAL OBAID, EMAD ALRAWASHDEH, and ARLASA DAVIS—are charged with conspiracy to steal government funds and to misappropriate U.S. Department of Agriculture (“USDA”) benefits, among other charges. DAVIS, a USDA employee, is additionally charged with bribery and honest services fraud.

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    1. Vernon Depner   11 hours ago

      What happens when people from a low-trust society are allowed in to a high-trust society. They will take anything they can get away with taking because that's normal life to them.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

        Also reparations.

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      2. charliehall   10 hours ago

        Precisely the Trump family!

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

          Now do the Bidens. And the Clintons. And then the Kennedies.

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          1. damikesc   10 hours ago

            Hell, explain how Ilhan Omar is worth over $30M now.

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            1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   8 hours ago

              Incest porn?

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            2. Medulla Oblongata   8 hours ago

              Maybe...because she funnels millions of dollars that idiots donate to her campaign fund to hire her husband's (new husband and former campaign manager, not her husband-brother) consulting company, effectively laundering her campaign funds into cash money in her community-property pocket.

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        2. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

          Just wait until Trump gives all his friends and family preemptive pardons!

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        3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   7 hours ago

          Trump stole SNAP funds? Do you have a cite for this?

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   5 hours ago

            All the illegals who dont ever get SNAP funds had it stolen from them.

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      3. damikesc   10 hours ago

        It's also turned the US into a low-trust society.

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

          Hey, our "media" deserves credit, too.

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        2. Vernon Depner   9 hours ago

          Parts of it, yes.

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  13. Fist of Etiquette   11 hours ago

    But "in applying the statute to a huge group of people living in the interior of the country..."

    We need to set distance and time limits for this all not to be arbitrary.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

      Like 6 feet apart and two weeks?

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    2. Minadin   9 hours ago

      So if you enter illegally but can make it to a non-border state, it's "olly olly oxen free"?

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  14. Medulla Oblongata   11 hours ago

    More fraud and abuse...this time by Chinese scammers preying on US senior citizens...

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/youtube-scambaiters-help-dismantle-65-million-multinational-fraud-ring-targeting

    SAN DIEGO – Twenty-eight alleged members of a Chinese organized crime ring are charged in four federal grand jury indictments with participating in a massive $65 million fraud scheme targeting thousands of seniors across the United States—including a 97-year-old San Diego widow of a Holocaust survivor who lost her entire life savings.

    After a nationwide, weeklong takedown in California, New York, Texas and Michigan, 25 of the defendants have been arrested; all are charged with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering.

    DEFENDANTS

    Case Number 25-cr-1097-TWR

    Hua Wang Age: 48 Flushing, NY

    Weining Su, aka “Ning Ma” Age: 27 Flushing, NY

    Case Number 25-cr-1762-TWR

    Hongsen Cao Age: 24 Los Angeles, CA

    Case Number 25-cr-1765-TWR

    Xiao Lei Xu, aka “Xiaolei Xu” Age: 39 Flushing, NY

    Wen Chang Wang, Age: 26 Detroit, MI

    Jiawen Cai, aka “Johnny Cai” Age: 28 Flushing, NY

    Xinyu Shao Age: 27 Flushing, NY

    Zhuhan Yin, aka “Iron Yin” Age: 30 Flushing, NY

    [Redacted]

    Ziyue Zhao, aka “Chris Zhao” Age: 30 Flushing, NY

    Guangli Lin Age: 30 Flushing, NY

    Wenzhi Chen Age: 23 Austin, TX

    [Redacted]

    Jiaxin Wang Age: 24 Flushing, NY

    [Redacted]

    Haotian Zhang, aka “Kevin Z” Age: 28 Flushing, NY

    Dudu Chen, aka “Norris Chen” Age: 31 In Custody

    Yuhui Sun, aka “Ian Sun” Age: 27 Flushing, NY

    Jiaxin Jiang, aka “YiYi” Age: 26 In Custody

    Dexiao Lin, aka “Prozac” Age: 27 Flushing, NY

    Zhiyi Zhang, aka “Cream Pablo” Age: 29 Los Angeles, CA

    Zhiwei Chen Age: 30 Levittown, NY

    Bing Shen Age: 41 Flushing, NY

    Zetian Zhang Age: 29 Flushing, NY

    Huajian Chen, aka “Marco Chen” Age: 24 Austin, TX

    Chongchong Li Age: 29 Los Angeles, CA

    Jianhao Gao, aka “Gh Ghao” Age: 31 Flushing, NY

    Case Number 25-cr-2208-TW

    Cheng Li Age: 28 In Custody

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    1. Kungpowderfinger   11 hours ago

      “Operating since at least 2019 and rooted in Southern California, the criminal network—primarily composed of Chinese nationals, many in the U.S. illegally—worked closely with India-based scam call centers”

      Maybe this will cause Reason to make a U-turn on their illegal immigration stance.

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 hours ago

        Of course, because everyone knows criminal behavior is based in nationality.

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

          No, it’s based on those who see no problem with breaking laws. Like being here illegally.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 hours ago

            I see. So a person who comes here illegally is a bad person because that person has no respect for laws, and therefore is just as bad as a murderer or a scammer.

            A person who breaks one law is just as likely to break any law!

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   11 hours ago

              You just said it. Coming here (or anywhere else for that matter) illegally means said person has little to no respect for the laws of that particular nation.

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              1. charliehall   10 hours ago

                As opposed to the 34x convicted felon in the White House, who ran a business that was itself convicted of 15 felonies and whose CFO went to prison.

                Being in the US illegally isn't even a crime. If you are upset with illegal immigrants but support Trump, you are a hypocrite.

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                1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   10 hours ago

                  Being in the US illegally isn't even a crime.

                  Too funny.

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                  1. Kungpowderfinger   9 hours ago

                    Up is down, left is right, 2+2=5…

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                  2. Zeb   8 hours ago

                    There are plenty of things that are illegal, but not criminal. Just sayin.

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                    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   7 hours ago

                      Civil violations are still illegal.

                      The term is not tied to just criminal violations.

                2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

                  Now tell us about those "felonies" and how much law was stretched to create them.

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                  1. damikesc   10 hours ago

                    THAT is not a problem to chemjeff.

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                    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

                      He also thinks the parents who won 1.5B against Alex Jones for defamation is legitimate despite no proving of any actual harm to a single parent.

                  2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

                    He still won't admit that staying 60 days past a final order to deport is a felony. Which is a large percentage of those being deported right now.

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                3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

                  Being here illegally, such as skipping reporting to customs or overstaying a visa is illegal. Charlie, I triple dog dare you to cross into Canada without reporting to their customs and see how far that gets you.

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                  1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

                    I suggest Iran or North Korea.

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                4. Chumby   8 hours ago

                  Formally renounce your citizenship, remain in the US, contact ICE, and see how well that works for you.

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                5. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

                  "Being in the US illegally isn't even a crime."

                  Wait, wut?

                  "34x convicted felon in the White House"

                  Jesus, Martin Luther King Jr., Socrates, Joan of Arc, Galileo, Dreyfus, Ghandi and Rosa Parks were all found guilty at fraudulent trials too. Also those 34 times were all for the same thing and it wasn't illegal or even unethical, you piece of shit shill.

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                  1. Lester75   5 hours ago

                    Umm.. Trump doesn't belong in that company. Jesus never scammed real-estate deals, cheated on his wife or failed to pay his contractors. Just sayin because you're not a felon it doesn't mean your not a crook.

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                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

                      Hey, dipshit, even the bank agreed to give Trump the loan, and of all things, Trump paid it back to the bank on time and with interest. So how is that a crime, retard?

                    2. Mother's Lament   36 minutes ago

                      "Jesus never scammed real-estate deals"

                      Nor did Trump. Charging a political opponent as a criminal for giving an accurate estimate of their property's worth to a bank whose independent appraiser agreed, is where the the actual scam lay.

                6. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 hours ago

                  "...who ran a business that was itself convicted of 15 felonies and whose CFO went to prison."

                  Believe me, asswipe, if they could have hung that on Trump, they would have.
                  Now, please, fuck off and die.

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                7. Minadin   5 hours ago

                  Disobeying a deport order is a felony.
                  So is re-entry after a deportation.

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              2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   10 hours ago

                Jeff never heard of a rap sheet.

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                1. Chumby   59 minutes ago

                  A cookie sheet, OTOH is right in his lane.

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            2. sarcasmic   10 hours ago

              I see. So a person who comes here illegally is a bad person because that person has no respect for laws, and therefore is just as bad as a murderer or a scammer.

              A person who breaks one law is just as likely to break any law!

              Drug warriors have been using that argument for a half a century.

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              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

                Cite?

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              2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   9 hours ago

                Sarc never heard of a rap sheet either.

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            3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   7 hours ago

              “I see.”

              Then follows up by saying a bunch of bullshit that shows he doesn’t. One of many different ways Lying Jeffy is dishonest.

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        2. Super Scary   11 hours ago

          I'm sorry pattern recognition is such a powerful tool.

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    2. Chumby   11 hours ago

      Everybody Wang Ching tonight.

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  15. Medulla Oblongata   11 hours ago

    This will probably be a "local news" story...narrative violations and all that (despite the victim being an immigrant).

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/seeking-safety-from-the-war-artist-from-ukraine-brutally-stabbed-to-death-on-light-rail-train-for-no-apparent-reason-police-say/ar-AA1LxV5Z

    A young woman who escaped the perils of war was brutally stabbed to death for no apparent reason on a popular light rail train in North Carolina last week, Tar Heel State law enforcement say.

    Decarlos Dejuan Brown, Jr., 34, stands accused of one count of murder in the first degree, according to the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department.

    On the night of Aug. 22, Iryna Zarutska, 23, died on the Charlotte Area Transit System's LYNX Blue Line train. She was repeatedly stabbed, at least once in the throat, police claim.

    The victim, an artist, had recently arrived in the United States from Ukraine, according to a GoFundMe for her family. She left her native country in order to leave the daily threat of violence behind.

    After that, the ride carried on for some four and 1/2 minutes without incident, police said. Then, without warning, provocation, or any other sort of interaction, Brown unfolds a knife, pauses, stands up, and finally stabs Zarutska over and over, according to law enforcement.

    The footage shows the woman is rendered non-responsive as blood hits the floor and the man gets up and walks away, according to the affidavit.

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    1. Jefferson Paul   6 hours ago

      It's her own fault for probably calling the migrant the N-word.

      (Am I doing this right, legacy media?)

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   4 hours ago

        The migrant was the white woman from Ukraine. The killer was a local black man who, according to the CCTV footage, never interacted with her nor she with him before he stabbed her in the throat.

        But, yeah, media will probably spin it the other way, unless they completely ignore it for the intersectionality narrative issues presented.

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        1. Jefferson Paul   4 hours ago

          Oh, shit, you're right. I had it backwards. Still, the Ukrainian woman probably looked like someone who would use the N-word, and that's justification enough to kill her, or so I've been told.

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  16. Medulla Oblongata   11 hours ago

    Rosie O’Donnell lies about Annunciation shooter

    “What do you know? [The shooter] was a white guy, Republican, MAGA person. What do you know? White supremacist,” O’Donnell said.

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    1. Kungpowderfinger   11 hours ago

      Sounds like a foreign entity trying to influence our elections, maybe Trump should launch an investigation on her with a FISA warrant.

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    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

      Fuck Rosie with a pineapple. Fruit or hand grenade.

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      1. Mother's Lament   21 minutes ago

        Poor pineapple. 🙁

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    3. Minadin   9 hours ago

      She walked that back over the weekend:

      You are right. I did not do my due diligence before I made that emotional statement, and I said things about the shooter that were incorrect.

      I assumed, like most shooters, they followed a standard MO and had standard, you know, feelings of … NRA-loving kind of gun people.

      https://x.com/MrReaganUSA/status/1962454654346002635

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      1. Super Scary   8 hours ago

        "I assumed, like most shooters"

        That they were black?

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        1. Medulla Oblongata   4 hours ago

          The recent spate of them are pretty much all trans "women" bent on killing Christian children.

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      2. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

        Which is weird because this shooter *did follow a standard MO* - nowaday most shooters are trans and they all do the same thing.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   6 hours ago

          nowaday most shooters are trans

          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/08/29/shooting-minnesota-school-transgender-online-untruths/85876291007/

          “I’m aware of no evidence to support the claim that transgender people are disproportionately responsible for mass violence events in the U.S., including shootings in schools,” Jensen said. “In fact, the data suggests quite the opposite.”

          Jensen’s research has identified more than 1,000 mass casualty plots − when the perpetrator clearly intended to kill or injure as many people as possible − since the start of 2023. “You can count on less than one hand how many of those were perpetrated by a transgender individual,” he said.

          And in the case of the Minneapolis shooting, there’s plenty of evidence suggesting Westman was influenced by another community the shooter was a part of, multiple experts on extremism and mass shootings told USA TODAY.

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          1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   6 hours ago

            How many hands does it normally take to count trans people in a typical crowd of 1000?

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          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   6 hours ago

            “You can count on less than one hand how many of those were perpetrated by a transgender individual“

            Less than one hand? Just the framing is biased. And it’s a complete lie.

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          3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   5 hours ago

            The leftist accused of trying to run down a Border Patrol agent in Knox County, Maine on Aug. 25 to stop him from arresting two illegal migrants involved in a large vehicle crash is trans.

            Olivia G. Wilkins, a female from Thomaston, Maine who goes by "Stevie" ("he/they") was federally charged with aggravated reckless conduct, criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon, driving to endanger and other crimes.

            Wilkins follows several other trans people charged over serious assaults on federal agents this year. In July, a Texas Antifa cell shot up an ICE facility in Alvarado. Several of the domestic terror suspects are trans.

            In January, Teresa "Milo" Youngblut, a member of the "Ziz" trans death cult, allegedly shot and killed a Border Patrol agent in Vermont

            https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1962965909137449119

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    4. Fats of Fury   5 hours ago

      Well, she was right about him being a white guy.

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      1. Minadin   4 hours ago

        And now she's sorry for misgendering him.

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    5. Chumby   57 minutes ago

      Is this like when Nelson trued to claim the Trump Butler shooter and golf course apparent shooter number two were both conservative as they both had been shown to have donated to Act Blue.

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  17. chemjeff radical individualist   11 hours ago

    "In defending this skimpy process, the Government makes a truly startling argument: that those who entered the country illegally are entitled to no process under the Fifth Amendment, but instead must accept whatever grace Congress affords them," noted Cobb. "Were that right, not only noncitizens, but everyone would be at risk. The Government could accuse you of entering unlawfully, relegate you to a bare-bones proceeding where it would 'prove' your unlawful entry, and then immediately remove you. By merely accusing you of entering unlawfully, the Government would deprive you of any meaningful opportunity to disprove its allegations."

    Not to worry, real Americans have nothing to fear from this 'expedited removal' process. After all, 'real Americans' don't speak Spanish. So there is no possibility that ICE would possibly mistake a 'real American' from an illegal INVADER criminal.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   11 hours ago

      Don’t you think it’s a little too early yet for a terrible strawman argument?

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

        Hey, if sarc can do it, why not?

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      2. MollyGodiva   11 hours ago

        It is not a strawman argument at all. Go look up the definition. Also ICE has wrongly deported US citizens.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

          Cite?

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          1. Minadin   9 hours ago

            Born in East LA

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            1. Zeb   8 hours ago

              I was going to go with Up In Smoke.

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        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

          No they haven't. The only cases any of you PhD in retard idiots ever cite is parents choosing to take their children when they are deported. So you know youre lying.

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    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

      Therefore, open borders!

      Also, Trump bad!

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    3. charliehall   10 hours ago

      There are tens of millions of Americans who speak Spanish. The US is now the second largest Spanish speaking country in the world.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

        Hence why Jeffy’s argument is pure straw.

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      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

        So what?

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      3. Chumby   9 hours ago

        The sloppy chemist’s strawman is typically dreadful. The US doesn’t have an official language and the US includes Puerto Rico. Your post is really worthless given that reality, but not surprising.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   8 hours ago

          The US doesn’t have an official language

          https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/designating-english-as-the-official-language-of-the-united-states/

          To promote unity, cultivate a shared American culture for all citizens, ensure consistency in government operations, and create a pathway to civic engagement, it is in America’s best interest for the Federal Government to designate one — and only one — official language.

          So you can tell who's likely an illegal immigrant. A person who chooses not to learn the official language! Right?

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          1. damikesc   7 hours ago

            No, that just means you're a lazy and stupid dipshit.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   6 hours ago

              No, that means ICE are full of lazy dipshits when they profile based on race or language.

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              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

                WTF? Do you really think that language is not a viable--and objective--way to identify possible illegals?

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                1. Mother's Lament   17 minutes ago

                  "Are you illegally in the country?"

                  "Qué?"

                  "I guess we'll never know."

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          2. Chumby   2 hours ago

            I think it had much more to do with successful interactions of all kinds. Such as what happens when trying to speak Norwegian while in Japan. Or trying to use Kalmykian when in Peru. Communication breakdown.
            I get in tranny groomer MAPedo world businesses and societies are to bend the knee to the tranny groomer MAPedo. Whether it be a simple economic interaction, something more important at a vocation, or something dire like communicating with a health professional during a medical emergency it is valuable to have both parties (or all parties) understanding the words being communicated.
            When flying internationally, each airline’s host country language is used followed by English to provide each passenger the ability to know what is going on. English is the international travel language (except apparently for rapefugees invading the US for access to the treasury and orifices of future victims). But it is helpful to know that host nation’s/region’s language.
            Is ICE in Puerto Rico rounding up anyone speaking Spanish?

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    4. Michael Ejercito   8 hours ago

      You clearly object to the plenary powers doctrine.

      Why should the Supreme Court upend over a century of immigration law precedent?

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   8 hours ago

        Why should the Supreme Court upend a century's worth of precedent in overturning birthright citizenship?

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        1. Michael Ejercito   8 hours ago

          You failed to answer the question.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   6 hours ago

            Yes I did, whether you realize it or not. The appeal to authority fallacy is a fallacy.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

              Michael did not appeal to authority, dipshit. He merely asked should SCOTUS upset a century of precedent as our common law system is based on precedent, idiot.

              You replied with a question and failed to answer his.

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            2. Chumby   2 hours ago

              PWNED!

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              1. Diarrheality   33 minutes ago

                Yup!

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          2. Mother's Lament   5 hours ago

            Michael Ejercito: "Why should the Supreme Court upend over a century of immigration law precedent?"

            creamjeff radical racist: "appeal to authority fallacy"

            Oh wow!

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  18. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 hours ago

    "...U.S. District Judge Jia M. Cobb put it in her opinion, issued Friday..."

    How many were interviewed before they found one who would agree?

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    1. charliehall   10 hours ago

      Idiot. District Judges are assigned randomly to cases.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

        Actually, they’re not assigned randomly, if you’ve been paying attention.

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      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

        Sure. And nobody ever went court shopping.

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        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   6 hours ago

          charlie is a particularly imbecilic pile of lying, TDS-addled shit, ain't he?

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      3. damikesc   7 hours ago

        Explains Boasberg's involvement in so many cases. Just blind luck of the draw.

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        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   6 hours ago

          charlie's dead brain.

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  19. Chumby   11 hours ago

    Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost

    Ahem, THE Ohio State Attorney General Dave Yost

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

      I see what you did there.

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    2. Its_Not_Inevitable   4 hours ago

      That state down south?

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  20. Spiritus Mundi   11 hours ago

    Trump administration sought to apply expedited removal to illegal immigrants found anywhere in the country, even if they had been here for a significant amount of time.

    That murder was years ago! Why are you harassing me now!?

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    1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 hours ago

      That's right. Illegal immigrants who have been in the country for years must be presumed to be murderers.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   11 hours ago

        Stacking those strawman high already.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 hours ago

          Oh, right! Instead, you think the crime of illegal entry is comparable to the crime of murder. My bad. Yes yes of course, every crime is equally as severe and should all be punished just as harshly.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   11 hours ago

            Just how much straw do you have this morning, Jeffy?

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          2. charliehall   10 hours ago

            MAGA: Misdemeanors are more serious than felonies.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

              Democrats: mean words are worse than murder.

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              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

                If only I could kill snowflakes with words.

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              2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 hours ago

                charliehall: 'Let me prove what a fucking lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit I am'
                Everyday, charlie, in nearly every post, asswipe.

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                1. Chumby   8 hours ago

                  ^ This

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          3. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

            Not at all. I think the crime of murder deserves a death sentence or possibly life at hard labor without possibility of parole.

            Illegally entering the country warrants nothing more than removal from the country--some limited detention might accrue between the time one is caught being in the country illegally and the time one can be legally removed (had your hearing or chose Voluntary Departure), but detention is NOT the point of the proceedings, removal is.

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            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

              So weird watching jeff constantly making this point when during j6 he said shooting trespassers was libertarian.

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          4. damikesc   10 hours ago

            Come on, chemjeff. That strawman has been beaten enough.

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      2. Kungpowderfinger   11 hours ago

        Will you take fifty cents to stop posting such shitty ad hominems?

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 hours ago

          I hope ICE "mistakes" you for an illegal immigrant and deports you to Uganda before you have the chance to retrieve your citizenship papers.

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          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

            I hope a select group of deserving, friendly immigrant visitors occupies your living room.

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            1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   10 hours ago

              Spoiler: he lives in mom’s basement.

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          2. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

            Don't complain if someone comes here to say "I hope you get raped and murdered by an illegal alien."

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   9 hours ago

              You all are going to say that ANYWAY regardless of what I say.

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              1. Medulla Oblongata   8 hours ago

                Fuck you. I've always tried to be more than fair with you. Say hello to the grey box.

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                1. chemjeff radical individualist   6 hours ago

                  Oh, you mean like how you deliberately misconstrue and mock my past comments? You call that "more than fair"?

                  Around here, I would say you have been slightly above average. But considering that the average is somewhere between the curb and the sewer, that isn't saying very much.

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                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

                    Oh, bullshit. Even when your comments and Sarc’s comments are posted in their entirety, you still lie and claim you never said nor meant what you typed, slimy son of a bitch.

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              2. damikesc   7 hours ago

                ...yet it was not written.

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          3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   6 hours ago

            I hope one of the neighborhood fathers finds out about you.

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            1. Chumby   2 hours ago

              For years they thought the fat recluse living in his mom’s basement was just addicted to food until one day they found out about his true hobby…

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      3. Vernon Depner   10 hours ago

        Illegal immigrants who have been in the country for years are illegal immigrants.

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    2. MollyGodiva   10 hours ago

      Note that none of the logical fallacies the MAGAs are accusing other of using are correct. Are we not at the point where MAGAs are randomly accusing people of logical fallacies?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

        It would be nice if you weren’t so fucking retarded, Molly.

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      2. sarcasmic   10 hours ago

        They think they're master gaslighters when they're really just wisps of smoke without a flame.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

          So cute all the projection from you and doc retard lol.

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      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

        Kill yourself.

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    3. mad.casual   10 hours ago

      The longer they're here collecting wages under the table, consuming education and healthcare dollars, swindling old people, stealing SNAP dollars, stealing corporate technology, voting themselves bennies that they shouldn't even be able to vote on just means our investment in their future food truck enterprise will pay out more on the back end.

      Studies show that 83% of illegal immigrants are deported right before starting their multi-million-dollar US-debt reduction business. Similar studies show more than 75% of compulsive gamblers quit right before their big payout.

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      1. Lester75   5 hours ago

        The number of votes cast by non-citizens is statistically insignificant.

        https://abcnews.go.com/US/election-fact-check-noncitizens-vote-instances-vanishingly-rare/story?id=115025674

        I'll admit this is from a mainstream news source. I'm sure you could find something in a right wing news source documenting individual cases of non-citizens voting (usually by mistake).

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

          And how do you know if these voters are citizens or noncitizens? It’s not like they attach their names to the ballots when they’re mailed in.

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          1. MollyGodiva   3 hours ago

            Dude what? Every ballot that is mailed in has the voter's name and a unique tracking number.

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  21. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 hours ago

    Imagine what sort of better polices we'd have if climate change was treated as a scientific subject rather than as a religion:

    "Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Resetting the Climate Debate"
    [...]
    "The Department of Energy's new climate report is making waves, offering a fresh look at the alarmist claims pushed by special-interest groups and prior administrations. The report's five scientists lay out data showing that while climate change is real, it isn't the threat suggested by media or the climate lobby. On this episode of All Things, Energy Secretary Chris Wright takes Kim Strassel through the findings, including the upsides of warming, the minimal economic effects of climate change, the limits of U.S. policy actions and the lack of evidence that climate is related to the frequency or intensity of extreme weather..."

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

      Hey, if Americans did not confuse politics, religion, and sport, what would we argue about?

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      1. Ska   10 hours ago

        Whether tits or ass make the world go 'round?

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   10 hours ago

          Similar to the great Ginger/Mariann debate.

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          1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

            And then the Petticoat Junction wars that tore the country apart.

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            1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   9 hours ago

              The ‘60s were a turbulent time indeed.

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              1. Quicktown Brix   9 hours ago

                Which persisted until the nation was reunited by Chrissy Snow's bouncy dance moves.

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          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

            Gilligan's Island settled this debate in the episode where Mary Ann hits her head and thinks she is Ginger, and gets all dolled up. The real Ginger looks grade B in comparison.

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            1. Jefferson Paul   5 hours ago

              MaryAnne's face looked better than Ginger, IMO.

              But I'm also not a big fan of red heads, so I guess I'm biased.

              (Before I get hate for this, I would just prefer, all other things being equal, a blonde or brunette over a red head.)

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

                That’s always a case of YMMV, and why ratings systems are subjective.

                IMHO, red>blonde>brunette.

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                1. Jefferson Paul   3 hours ago

                  Sure, I get your preference. But you'd still say Maryanne was better looking than Ginger in this specific case, though, right?

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          3. Vernon Depner   8 hours ago

            The show would have been better if Ginger and Mariann had both been played by the same actress.

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        2. See.More   5 hours ago

          Whether tits or ass make the world go 'round?

          The Three B's of Happiness: Bacon, Boobs, Booze.

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    2. MollyGodiva   10 hours ago

      Problem is that the Trump administration has a history of fudging reports to drive their own agenda. Nothing in this report can be taken at face value.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

        Cite? It looks like massive projection on your part.

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        1. charliehall   10 hours ago

          Trump himself was convicted of 34 counts of felony document fraud! Must I post a link?

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          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

            Yes, and explain how those "felonies" were created.

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          2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

            You mean 34 counts that were made up out of thin air from something barely considered a misdemeanor that the bank even said they were fine with the loan as Trump paid it all back with interest?

            Do better, progtard.

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            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 hours ago

              34 counts of victimless crime! TDS-addled slimy piles of lying lefty shit luv them some victimless crime!

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              1. damikesc   10 hours ago

                Come on, Sevo. I bet libertarians have NEVER had issues with victimless crimes.

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              2. MollyGodiva   8 hours ago

                Lets notice the irony of MAGAs railing against victimless crimes in the comment section about a victimless crime they will pursue to the detriment of everything else.

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                1. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

                  How the fuck is illegal immigration a viCtiMLeSs cRiMe, you piece of shit?
                  I can think of at least a dozen different ways Americans are being victimized by illegal immigration.

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                  1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

                    But low pay, lack of job openings, and expensive housing are all due to evil, greedy capitalists, right?

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                    1. Lester75   5 hours ago

                      There is a lack of job openings for full-time jobs that have benefits. There is no lack of job openings for minimum wage part-time no-benefits service industry stuff. Only problem is that with minimum wage part-time no-benefits service industry stuff you need medicaid and food stamps and subsidized housing . (Maybe you can afford housing in Ashpit Mississippi where you can't get medical care anyway because no doctor wants to live there).

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

                      Lester, ever hear of an H1B visa? It’s used to depress wages and benefits in quite a few jobs.

                2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   7 hours ago

                  We post a lot of victims of your precious illegals.

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            2. Jefferson Paul   5 hours ago

              ITL, you're confusing the OTHER bullshit (civil) case against Trump with the bullshit (criminal) case against Trump.

              It gets hard to keep them straight when all the cases involved novel legal approaches to guarantee the end result the Dems wanted, regardless of the law or facts.

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          3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 hours ago

            This asswipe seems to think that 34 counts of felonious late library-book returns has something to do with doing science.
            Fuck off and die, shitstain

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          4. But SkyNet is a Private Company   9 hours ago

            Yes.
            Post us a link that shows how Trump kept his own books and picked “legal expenses” from the dropdown menu in Quicken to describe a check cut to a lawyer.

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      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 hours ago

        Tell us, in detail, where you think Dr. Judith Curry was wrong in her book “Climate Uncertainty and Risk”.
        MG has a history of allow the raging case of TDS to get in the way of logic, assuming MG is in any way familiar with it in the first place.

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      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

        Cite?

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      4. Zeb   7 hours ago

        And this differs from other reports from other administrations?

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        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 hours ago

          Biden's 'Jobs Reports", by any chance?
          And here, Curry, Koonin, et al, have the data and are not going to 'revise' it a month later.

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  22. Randy Sax   11 hours ago

    "Were that right, not only noncitizens, but everyone would be at risk. The Government could accuse you of entering unlawfully, relegate you to a bare-bones proceeding where it would 'prove' your unlawful entry, and then immediately remove you.

    Not sure why "prove" is in quotations. And yes, this only effect noncitizens. How would the government prove citizens entered illegally?

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

      Jeff sez any citizen that can speak Spanish is in grave danger.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

        And nobody who speaks Spanish is a danger to others!

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    2. mad.casual   10 hours ago

      The inverse implication is kinda detached too. Is the assumption that every murder, assault, DUI, etc., etc., etc. trial is an OJ Simpson-style affair rather than a "bare-bones proceeding where it would 'prove' your [guilt]"?

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  23. chemjeff radical individualist   11 hours ago

    Oh, I love this tacit admission from the government on what they really think about illegal immigrants.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/noem-accuses-cbs-of-deceptively-editing-interview-on-kilmar-abrego-garcia/ar-AA1LETXq

    So, Security Barbie was on TV trashing Garcia, and CBS edited parts of the interview out that had unsubstantiated claims. Of course, Barbie complained, and her spokesperson said:

    “If Kilmar Abrego Garcia did not want to be mentioned by the Secretary of Homeland Security, then he should have not entered our country illegally and committed heinous crimes,” a DHS official told The Hill on Friday morning.

    So, in their view, because Garcia entered the country illegally, that means he not only has no right to be here, but no personal dignity and no standing to complain about anything. He is a complete unperson with zero standing on any matter whatsoever.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   11 hours ago

      He’s got a deportation order, dipshit.

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      1. Chumby   10 hours ago

        But Jeff and Tufts might want him to stay.

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      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   9 hours ago

        Two

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      3. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

        Jeff knows. He just enjoys being dishonest. Being Lying Jeffy isn't just a job for him, it's also his hobby.

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   6 hours ago

          It’s the center of his being.

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          1. Chumby   2 hours ago

            Disagree. Pathological lying is minor compared to what really drives his urges.

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            1. Mother's Lament   14 minutes ago

              I hope you're kidding. So childish.

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    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   10 hours ago

      Why was the interview edited ?

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

        To intentionally make her answers fit the narrative CBS wanted to push.

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        1. Mickey Rat   10 hours ago

          "Creative editing" to slander an interview subject by making them appear to say something they did not is a protected press freedom, or something.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

            Yep. Michael Moore is famous for this. He really pissed off Trey Parker and Matt Stone when they were interviewed for “Bowling for Columbine” by editing the interview with them to make them say something they did not. Hence why Moore wound up as a suicide bomber in “Team America: World Police”.

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            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 hours ago

              Suicide bombers are smarter than MM.

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              1. Medulla Oblongata   7 hours ago

                The nails and ball bearings in a suicide bomber's vest are probably more intelligent...

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            2. Jefferson Paul   5 hours ago

              What did Moore have them say that they didn't?

              I'm a huge South Park fan, and I remember my college roommate dragging me with him to watch Bowling for Columbine in the theater. But I don't recall the interview with them in the movie.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

                From 2004: https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/trey-parker-and-matt-stone-of-south-park-condemn-michael-moore.36723/

                I caught the makers of South Park and the new movie Team America on Conan this week. In discussing their attacks on the big fat slob Michael Moore in their movie, Matt Stone and Trey Parker had much to say.

                They pointed out that people accuse Moore of deception and unfairness, and they know this first-hand. Because Trey Parker appeared in Bowling for Columbine to give an interview. In the movie, Moore then shows a short animation piece with his propagandistic take on the history of the NRA (which is full of bullshit, btw). this animation piece is done in the style of South Park, and most viewers of the film ended up thinking that the South Park people did that for Michael Moore. In fact they had nothing to do with it. Understandably, this pissed off Trey Parker and Matt Stone, because to this day people think they did that anti-NRA propaganda cartoon for Michael Moron. As libertarians, of course they do not subscribe to Michael Moron's propaganda, yet Michael Moron didn't take care to ensure people wouldn't be confused.

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              2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

                And from the BBC interview of Parker and Stone.

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2005/01/13/matt_stone_team_america_interview.shtml

                Michael Moore interviewed you in Bowling For Columbine, and you seemed to get on so well then. Are there any feelings of guilt over how you portray him here?

                I've hung out with him a few times, and he asked me to be in Bowling For Columbine because I grew up in Littleton, Colorado, so I did. And he didn't misrepresent me in the film at all. But what he did that really pissed Trey off, and kind of pissed me off too, was put a little animation right after our interview. Tons of people have come up to us and said: 'Oh I love that animation you guys did in Bowling For Columbine'. It's very South Park-esque but we didn't do it. I was offended by the cartoon, personally I thought it was retarded. That's just my opinion and the only reason my opinion matters is because people thought I made it. It was a good lesson in what Michael Moore does in films. He doesn't necessarily say explicitly this is what it is, but he creates meaning where there is none by cutting things together. But I don't really hate the guy.

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                1. Jefferson Paul   3 hours ago

                  I just watched the pseudo South Park animation from Bowling for Columbine, and I completely understand Trey and Matt's frustration with Moore. To show that clip right after the interview of Stone is Michael Moore to a T.

                  Plus the animated clip is chock full of half-truths and outright lies, also typical of anything Michael Moore releases. When he's not outright lying, Moore loves to use juxtaposition to imply correlation or even causation. Show the South Park-style animation right after the interview with Stone to imply South Park endorses it or even created it, and cite that the KKK starting in the Deep South in 1871 is related to the NRA. Other than the year of founding, there is zero similarity to the KKK. Two Union Army officers started the NRA in NEW YORK to promote rifle shooting and marksmanship. Fuck, Moore is such a dishonest shit.

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            3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 hours ago

              Haha. I did not know that. “A giant socialist weasel”, indeed.

              I wonder what all the F.A.G.s did to piss those guys off? They all still suck to this day.

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   10 hours ago

          Not the first time CBS has done this. Dan “Fake But Accurate” Rather, anyone?

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          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

            Hey, the dude was under fire!

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            1. Jefferson Paul   5 hours ago

              duplicate

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            2. Jefferson Paul   5 hours ago

              You're thinking of Brian Williams of NBC news who lied about being in a helicopter in Iraq in 2003 that was shot down.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

                I was thinking more of the Killian letter.

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                1. Jefferson Paul   3 hours ago

                  I know you were. I was replying to Earth-based Human Skeptic, since he wrote, Hey, the dude was under fire! That sounded like a description of Brian Williams' tall tale.

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            3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 hours ago

              "Hey, the dude was under fire!"

              Was HRC there?!

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          2. Mickey Rat   6 hours ago

            And the infamous Harris word salad interview re-edit.

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    3. Vernon Depner   10 hours ago

      "...because Garcia entered the country illegally, that means he not only has no right to be here, but no personal dignity and no standing to complain about anything."

      Correct. I'm glad you're finally figuring this out.

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    4. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

      "Security Barbie"

      How rude and misogynistic.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   10 hours ago

        Wonder what he would call her if she was unattractive?

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        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 hours ago

          Ugly?

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        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

          Mom.

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      2. chemjeff radical individualist   9 hours ago

        Now let's discuss the very long list of epithets you and your team used for Hillary Clinton...

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        1. Mother's Lament   8 hours ago

          You mean like "crook" and "murderer" and "thief"?

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        2. Medulla Oblongata   7 hours ago

          The only epithet I ever used was "Sec. Clinton". So fuck you.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   6 hours ago

            Even if your claim is true, you are willfully ignoring the many thousands of times Hillary was referred to with vile and nasty names, far worse than "Security Barbie".

            Why does your demand for decency never land upon the MAGA trash around here who say the worst possible things?

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            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   5 hours ago

              What examples?

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              1. Mother's Lament   5 hours ago

                Of course he doesn't have any. Lying Jeffy loves to lie.

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            2. Jefferson Paul   4 hours ago

              Quit your concern trolling.

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        3. damikesc   7 hours ago

          Feel free to list them. And let us know who said what.

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    5. Mickey Rat   10 hours ago

      Did CBS butcher the interview because Garcia complained?

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    6. Michael Ejercito   8 hours ago

      So, in their view, because Garcia entered the country illegally, that means he not only has no right to be here, but no personal dignity and no standing to complain about anything. He is a complete unperson with zero standing on any matter whatsoever.
      If he wants "personal dignity" and "standing to complain about anything".

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    7. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   6 hours ago

      I like how you unironically post an example of the media being dishonest and don’t have a problem with it.

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  24. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   11 hours ago

    Everything you wanted to know about Donna Brazile.

    https://x.com/datarepublican/status/1962366331577422097?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    THREAD: Donna Brazile: More than a campaign operative.

    Today, President Trump posted a TruthSocial post asking why Donna Brazile is still around on ABC. The answer is simple: she is a part of the Deep State, serving on the National Democratic Institute (NDI).

    Her timeline spans multiple Presidents, runs from the King Holiday campaign of the early 80s to the State Department’s Fulbright Board.

    She's one of the clearest case studies of how U.S. partisan politics, media narratives, and public diplomacy interlock to form a machinery of influence.

    As always, patience as I pull together the thread.

    Brazile is a board member of the National Democratic Institute (NDI), which is the Democratic wing of National Endowment for Democracy (NED), which was formed in the Reagan years to replace a discredited and weakened CIA.

    Brazile started politics in her teens, volunteering for the 1976 and 1980 campaigns of Jimmy Carter. She graduated Louisiana State University in 1981. Right after, she became a lobbyist for the National Student Education Fund.

    If anyone wants to do a deep dive, go drop by at the Louisiana State University archives -- she's got 32 boxes of material.

    Her political leadership skills were recognized early on. Already in 1983, just two years after graduating college, she became the national director of the 20th Anniversary March on Washington and was instrumental in getting MLK Jr. recognized as a national holiday. She stood in the Rose Garden as Reagan signed the bill (not in the picture below).

    She organized Jesse Jackson's first bid for Presidency in 1984 and later that year would also help out with the Mondale campaign.

    As an aside -- this seems to be a recurring pattern in both Democratic and foreign policy circles -- young people are put in leadership positions quickly.

    She became national field director for Dick Gephardt in 1988, the first African-American woman to hold such a role. Sometime in the mid 1980s, she served as Executive Director of National Political Congress of Black Women (NPCBW), later renamed National Congress of Black Women.

    She went onto becoming the deputy field director for Dukakis that year. But she got frustrated with Dukakis' unwillingness to engage in smear tactics, and got fired.

    Brazile was featured in a 1989 article about how protests and demonstrations were being increasingly funded by big money. She was the coordinator for a massive Housing Now! march for homelessness.

    In the 1990s, Brazile helped elect Eleanor Holmes Norton as DC's Congressional delegate. She served as chief of staff and press secretary to Norton.

    Over the years, Brazile held multiple roles at the DNC. She played a role in disqualifying the delegates from Florida and Michigan in 2008 from being seated in 2008, saying "We need to send a message that you can't defy the rules."

    She was Gore's national political director, which sent her star skyrocketing. She became program head for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) and then had a prestigious fellowship with Harvard University's Institute of Politics.

    She began her TV circuit around then, being a part of the "Best Political Team on Television" on CNN during the 2008 cycle. She wrote commentary on CNN's website as well.

    Oddly enough, she also joined Fox News...

    Brazile's academic activity is extensive, having lectured at hundreds of colleges all across the country. Obama first appointed her to serve on the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board in 2013. Biden appointed her as chair in 2022.

    To give an idea of how influential Fulbright scholars are....

    The list includes Michael McFaul (Obama's infamous Russian ambassador), Boutros Boutros-Ghali (former Secretary-General of the UN), Hans Blix (UN weapons inspector) and more.

    I found a press release claiming "Donna is THE thought leader of the diversity discussion as a universal policy that leads to excellence in all aspects of society" ...

    Brazile isn't a passive member of the NDI. Brazile co-led a Kenyan delegation for election observation with the International Republican Institute (IRI).

    Brazile served as the acting chair of the Democratic National Committee from July 2016 to February 2017, during Hillary's campaign. She admits the DNC had rigged the primary for Hillary and against Sanders, having found an agreement wherein Hillary's campaign paid off the DNC debt in exchange for the primary rigging.

    Brazile threw Obama and Debbie Wasserman Schultz under the bus for allowing the arrangement to happen. Of course, she herself was an innocent bystander all this even as acting chair during Hillary's campaign.

    Among MAGA, Brazile of course is best known for having leaked debate questions to the Clinton campaign.

    There's an oft-circulated quote from Hillary to Brazile, along the lines of "If that fuckin bastard wins, we’re all going to hang from nooses! You better fix this shit!" -- but I could not verify it.

    So, in conclusion: Brazile isn't fired from ABC News because she has been born and bred since college to be an integral part of Deep State machinations.

    Her career spans multiple Presidential candidates, she has many NGOs to her credit, she lectures at many universities, she has been on many networks. She was groomed to become a one-woman Deep State army, and fulfilled her role well.

    Hope you enjoyed this thread!

    FYI: I was unable to substantiate the rumors that Brazile visited Seth Rich in the hospital. She's indeed filed a cease and desist for anyone who claims this.

    Brazile did write about Seth Rich in her book though -- she claims it affected her deeply. She believed it was could be a racial incident or a Russian assassination.

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  25. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 hours ago

    The Trump family's cryptocurrency launched yesterday.

    I know I lost big on the Hawk Tua coin, but I got a feeling this one will be bigly successful. Look at Trump's track record...

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    1. Randy Sax   11 hours ago

      People that buy shitcoins laugh at people that buy lotto tickets. Both dumbasses.

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  26. Medulla Oblongata   11 hours ago

    More local news?

    https://flvoicenews.com/florida-authorities-uncover-widespread-illegal-alien-cheating-scheme-for-cdl-exam-report/

    Florida authorities uncover widespread illegal alien cheating scheme for CDL exam: report

    The report details how a group of men, including five who were arrested in Jacksonville, used hidden cameras and earpieces to receive test answers from accomplices outside of a DMV testing center.

    The scheme, which the Florida Highway Patrol calls “organized fraud,” allowed applicants to obtain a CDL without a proper understanding of English or road signs.

    Investigators told First Coast News that the cheating scheme was “highly organized” and that dozens of men were registered as applicants at addresses that were too small to house them all.

    The investigation, which FHP Sergeant Dylan Bryan told the outlet is a “very elaborate case,” has so far led to five arrests in Jacksonville, with authorities stating the cheating is a nationwide issue.

    All five of the men arrested requested interpreters, according to the arrest reports.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

      Hey, driving a big rig on public roads and occasionally killing people is a human right! Especially for super-innocent illegal immigrants.

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  27. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

    For an ENB roundup...

    https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/08/26/hey-the-new-york-times-noticed-that-trump-is-not-hostile-to-gays-n3806177

    Shawn McCreesh, the Times' White House Correspondent, did a deep dive into the not-so-underground gay mafia that has enormous power in the Trump administration. The story was very well done for a New York Times piece, although I got the sense that McCreese is sympathetic to the view that MAGA gays are deluded into believing they are welcome within the Republican Party, when it's quite clear that Trump finds being around gays to be quite natural and no big deal.

    Whatever the case, it is undeniable that gays play an outsized role in MAGA, both inside and outside the administration. Jillian Michaels, the fitness guru, is both out and proud and enthusiastically MAHA, and Dave Rubin is a wildly popular MAGA commentator and unabashedly gay. Peter Thiel helped break Trump into Silicon Valley money and influence.

    And inside the administration? Some of the most powerful administration figures are openly gay. They just don't define their identity as gay activists.

    Bessent is a great example of the gay men of the Trump administration. 99% of people have no idea he is gay, even though it is hardly a secret. That's because Bessant is known as Secretary of the Treasury, not a flamboyant gay man who prances around in dresses and gets his rocks off in a Senate committee room, as Democratic Party gays do.

    The difference is important. The "Queer" movement is about rejecting the norms of society in every way possible. If you go to a Pride parade, is it all about flaunting your sexuality and rejecting the bourgeoisie. The Trump tribe is about American greatness; the Biden tribe was all about how awful "normie" Americans are.

    MAGA homosexuals don't want to force everybody into a "Queer" mold. They are here to make society better for everybody, not just themselves. That's how you get a Scott Pressler, who did as much as anybody to deliver Pennsylvania to Trump as anybody. He is beloved by MAGA because he wants the same thing we do: to Make America Great Again.

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    1. charliehall   10 hours ago

      So what?

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 hours ago

        Idiot.

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      2. Ska   10 hours ago

        You're right in one sense, we shouldn't care. But in another sense, the comments from the 85% partisan Democrat commenters are illuminating. See, they might have career success as openly gay Republicans, but that just makes them twice as evil. And they're white and privileged. And Trump will force the Supreme Court to overturn Obergfell something something.

        Maybe one day Democrats will be able to take the win, but I wouldn't bet on it - taking wins doesn't drive campaign dollars. No, better to burn the apostates for their other crimes - mostly the crime of not being subservient Democrats as expected.

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      3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 hours ago

        Because of the comparison, asswipe.

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    2. chemjeff radical individualist   8 hours ago

      Yes we know. Gays are totally fine as long as they know their place and don't make their presence known to anyone else. They must treat homosexuality like it's some embarrassing disease that it would be impolite to talk about in public.

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      1. Ska   8 hours ago

        That's exactly why reading the comments were crazy. Knowing their place means acknowledging that gay people should be perpetual victims supporting only one party who will never accept them as equal to other people because that nullifies their strategic value.

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        1. Medulla Oblongata   7 hours ago

          Situations like this always remind me of this Key&Peele skit. One of the funniest, but biting, commentary on the subject.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3h6es6zh1c&ab_channel=ComedyCentral

          "Oh I get it. I'm not persecuted, I'm just an asshole."

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          1. Jefferson Paul   4 hours ago

            That was a great clip, and appropriate for the topic.

            Still, the best K&P skits, IMO, were the substitute teacher ones (both parts) and the listing of the players names in the College Football all-star game (two parts as well).

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      2. Super Scary   8 hours ago

        "don't make their presence known to anyone else."

        Or just, you know, not dry humping in the street with dildos in their mouths.

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      3. Mother's Lament   7 hours ago

        "Gays are totally fine as long as they know their place and don't make their presence known to anyone else."

        Apparently their "place" includes the upper echelons of the Trump administration which probably stokes a white hot fury in your demented soul.

        But anyway, gays are totally fine as long as they don't decide to turn their sexual attractions into a religious cult that must be followed like your execrable LGBTQQ2S+ acolytes do.
        But you knew that already, you garbage DNC bot.

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        1. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

          The idiocy here is that these people *do* make their homosexuality known. As pointed out, several of these people are 'out and proud'.

          Its just that, for them, being gay *isn't their whole life!* Its not the only thing that's even slightly interesting about them. They're whole people, not limited themselves to being caricatures.

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      4. damikesc   7 hours ago

        Yes, it is selling out not making whom you fuck the central point of one's identity.

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      5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   6 hours ago

        Wtf are you even talking about? Man, you’re more broken than sarc now.

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   6 hours ago

      I didn’t know Jillian Michaels was gay. I’d watch that for sure.

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  28. TJJ2000   10 hours ago

    The LIBERTY to stomp all over and destroy your home?
    What Liberty interest? Foreigners have no 'rights' to the USA.
    They are invited. They aren't entitled.

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    1. I, Woodchipper   9 hours ago

      this ruling is complete insanity. By that reasoning, the whole world should be allowed to just come across our border, no limits, no background , no vetting, nothing. They have "liberty interest" in being here after all.

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      1. Vernon Depner   2 hours ago

        That is, in fact, Reason's stated position.

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  29. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

    Maxine Waters giving Jasmine Crocket something to aspire to...

    [On the firing of Fed Board member]

    "It is time to call for Article [Amendment] 25 of the Constitution of the United States of America to determine his unfitness, to determine that something’s wrong with this president,” Waters said. “And I would suggest that we move very aggressively to talk about the danger to this country and to our democracy and not play around with this, because this is absolutely one of the most destructive things that this president could do,"

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    1. damikesc   10 hours ago

      I love seeing the demented commenting on the mental issues of the President.

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      1. Dillinger   9 hours ago

        clearly the being atop Maxine's head is in charge.

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    2. Minadin   9 hours ago

      She wants to invoke the 25th amendment because he shit-canned the DEI member of the Fed?

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    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 hours ago

      That dessicated sack of pig shit is even older and more demented than Trump, and is just another example of why we really need an amendment to impose age limits on all federally elected positions, up to and including not letting them run over their time if their term goes over the age limit.

      Set an age limit of 80 (I'd say 75 but I'll be generous), and if you're going to pass that limit while in office, you either don't get to run for the office, or you have to resign on your 80th birthday, no exceptions. That should get some of these dinosaurs out of office and out of power, and bring in some fresh blood to take responsibility for running the country.

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 hours ago

        Concurrently, the voting age needs to be raised to 25. If you're not mature enough to own a firearm at 18, as the left asserts, you're not mature enough to vote. Put the limit as the same age as when you can run for Congress.

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        1. Medulla Oblongata   7 hours ago

          I'd go with 26, the age at which even Obamacare law finally says they're not children anymore.

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        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

          25 and/or net taxpayer.

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    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 hours ago

      I wonder if (D)umb Cunt Waters thinks that if Democrats lead a coup and oust Trump, she gets to pick his replacement.

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  30. Dillinger   10 hours ago

    >>a new federal court ruling says.

    you may have missed the last eight months of everyone else @Reason jumping the gun on federal court rulings.

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  31. Dillinger   10 hours ago

    >>But "in applying the statute to a huge group of people living in the interior of the country who have not previously been subject to expedited removal, the Government must afford them due process," Cobb wrote.

    so if invasion, willkommen.

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  32. sarcasmic   10 hours ago

    Everyone knows that due process and equality under the law are leftist ideals. True freedom lovers support a tiered justice system where undesirables have no rights and those with power are above the law.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   9 hours ago

      So fucking broken.

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

      A) you dont know nor give a fuck what due process means. You just repeat ignorant leftist talking points with zero intellectual curiosity to educate yourself. You still fail to realize there are multiple levels of due process. No you dont get a jury for your speeding ticket retard.

      B) equality under the law is something you truly dont believe in. See your defense of BLM rioters and J6 defendants. Your applauding the Trump trials, going after his lawyers, pro life protestors facing 5 years in prison, etc.

      C) you defended 20 years for parading in a public building for 20 minutes and you claim others are for tiered justice. Fuck off Maddow.

      D) see a. You dont give a fuck what the term rights or due process means.

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    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

      Speaking of tiered justice systems, including codified in law, how about critiquing Democrats (that you are totally not)?

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      1. sarcasmic   9 hours ago

        Red herrings are red.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   7 hours ago

          You keep dodging.

          You claim to always criticize democrats. So let's go back to the last 10 criticisms of democrats in articles here and link all your criticisms of either the right or left in those articles? It will be a blow out for the former.

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          1. Chumby   2 hours ago

            Harris-Walz could have done a better job highlighting why Trump is such a poopyhead and now let me tell you the ways…

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    4. Marshal   48 minutes ago

      Everyone knows that due process and equality under the law are leftist ideals

      Actually we know they are not leftist ideals since the left only advances these as standards when they are useful to attack their enemies. But when it comes to Title IX sex police, CRT, and racial discrimination in education and employment the left actively opposes due process and equality under the law.

      Revealingly none of the leftists who comment here claiming to support due process and equality spend any effort criticizing these failures. It seems they are more interested in covering them up.

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  33. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

    JD Vance is wrong:

    Vice President JD Vance. Speaking to Fox News this week, Vance threw his support behind the UK flag movement

    "It is in fact a good thing to be proud of your country and we should push back against the crazies who say we should be so ashamed of our culture and our heritage that we shouldn’t be willing to fly a flag. It’s craziness, we’ve got to call that craziness out, and encourage our European friends to follow suit.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

      They can join JD Vance:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWmdzJAwzkY

      Why the ‘sensible centrists’ are wrong about everything

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  34. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

    ABC News:

    At least 57 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims wounded, according to police.

    The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.

    Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

      Damn all those crazy violent white MAGA men in Chicago!

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   6 hours ago

        Well, according to Jussie Smollett, it’s MAGA country.

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        1. MasterThief   3 hours ago

          You see his Netflix documentary? Hilarious gaslighting.

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      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 hours ago

        https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=black+commedian+on+Jesse+Smollet&mid=B878E61D0AE28BEA7028B878E61D0AE28BEA7028&FORM=VIRE

        Dave Chappel

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  35. Gaear Grimsrud   9 hours ago

    I'm not clear on the 100 mile rule here. Is that spelled out in the statute or is that just the historical executive policy? Doesn't make much sense to me either way. So if somebody can enter illegally, cross the magic line and remain undetected for two weeks they get a get out of jail free card? If that's written into the law the judge might win. If not she'll go down in flames.

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    1. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

      Judicial precedent. The USSC supreme court said it was ok.

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    2. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

      Though 80% of the US lives within 100 miles of a border (which seems to include the ocean and international airports) so I don't see that working out for the judge either;)

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  36. Michael Ejercito   9 hours ago

    "In defending this skimpy process, the Government makes a truly startling argument: that those who entered the country illegally are entitled to no process under the Fifth Amendment, but instead must accept whatever grace Congress affords them," noted Cobb.
    the problem is that this flies in the face of Supreme Court precedent. Laws enacted by Congress regarding the admission or exclusion of aliens are subject only to "limited judicial review", Fiallo v. Bell, 430 U.S. 787, 795fn.6 (1977)

    As such, under Supreme Court precedent, due process in the immigration context is what Congress says it is.

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  37. Medulla Oblongata   8 hours ago

    Oof...

    "What a toxic mix of Islamist intolerance and depthless self-pity. What a foul combination of violence and victimology, where even as you’re raping a Jew or bombing Jews from their homes you somehow manage to convince yourself that you’re the real victim.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/09/01/what-a-pathetic-bunch-of-cry-bullies-israels-enemies-are/

    Has Earth ever had such a gathering of pathetic cry-bullies as we now see in the anti-Israel movement? Hamas carried out the worst mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust and then wailed ‘War crime!’ when those Jews fought back. Hezbollah rained missiles on northern Israel for two years, causing mass destruction, forced displacement and the deaths of Druze kids, and then cried ‘Barbarism!’ when Israel responded with the pagers operation to take out Hezbollah’s top dogs. The Houthis say ‘We hate the Jews and we want to kill them’ and then act all affronted when the Jews say ‘Nah, not today’. And Iran sponsors all this apocalyptic agitation against the Jewish State and then goes blubbing to the UN when the Jewish State takes out its leading military men.

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    1. Michael Ejercito   8 hours ago

      How do these crybullies have credibility with anyone?

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  38. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   8 hours ago

    "For nearly three decades, the federal government has subjected noncitizens apprehended at the border to fast-paced summary removal. Using that procedure, these people are quickly turned back across the border, typically after a single conversation with an immigration officer."

    This is where they lose me every time. If you are caught at the border, you can be chucked out immediately. But for some reason if you make a concerted effort to elude authorities and make it to the interior you deserve special treatment? It makes no sense. Perverse incentives rewarding the most deceptive.

    Declare yourself at the border or face expedited removal. Full stop.

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  39. Medulla Oblongata   8 hours ago

    Remember that time Nadler shit his pants on stage?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-rep-jerry-nadler-retire-congress/

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  40. Medulla Oblongata   8 hours ago

    Child rapists in EU getting theirs. Seems like fathers and brothers may have finally had enough?

    Of course, vigilante justice is wrong, and we should never encourage people taking the law into their own hands.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15056287/Hooded-men-attack-young-migrants-Spain-rape-14-year-old-Violence-comes-wake-riots-Swiss-city.html

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    1. MasterThief   3 hours ago

      I'm mostly in favor of vigilante justice when the justice system fails to produce proper outcomes. Unfortunately that saw me cheering vigilante justice against Derek Chauvin before facts showed the state botched his prosecution and deprived him of proper justice.

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  41. Nobartium   7 hours ago

    that those who entered the country illegally are entitled to no process under the Fifth Amendment, but instead must accept whatever grace Congress affords them

    Yes, because the 5th doesn't override the core power of naturalization.

    But beyond this, it isn't the duty of any given government to make up for the freedom deficit of any other.

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  42. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

    >The decision strikes a blow against the Trump administration's expanded "expedited removal" policy

    No it doesn't.

    1. They're already getting due process.

    2. All the people you keep whining about turned out to already have deportation orders from previous administrations. They had plenty of time to challenge it - they can just go now.

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    1. Mickey Rat   6 hours ago

      That is one of the odd passages from the decision. That they only get the grace Congress provides them. However, it is Congress that sets policy on what due process entails for illegal aliens.

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  43. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

    >By merely accusing you of entering unlawfully, the Government would deprive you of any meaningful opportunity to disprove its allegations."

    Just show your birth certificate or naturalization paperwork.

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    1. Lester75   5 hours ago

      Why carries around their birth certificate? Maybe we should all go to city hall and get extra copies.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

        The Feds are very much aware of who has overstayed a visa.

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      2. Vernon Depner   2 hours ago

        I carry around my Real ID compliant driver license, which requires a birth certificate to obtain. Not that there's any possibility I would be mistaken for an illegal alien anyway, and not that it wouldn't be easy to arrange for someone to bring it should I not have it on me.

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  44. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

    >"The sheriff, however, does not have independent contracting authority for this purpose," opined Yost.

    You'll notice that this is presented as an off-the-cuff remark and not legal analysis - let alone a published opinion - by the AG?

    A sheriff's authority varies from state to state but all states will *say* that sheriff's must obey everything the state tells them to do no matter what the actual law says sheriff's must do.

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    1. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

      Its very similar to how courts approach talking about jury nullification - they'll just flat out lie to you about it.

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  45. Incunabulum   7 hours ago

    Also, I see that this is a district court - and we've seen how it goes for the DC's.

    'Weighty liberty interest' is the sort of word salad tells me the person is not a serious thinker and is working backwards from a conclusion - expect this to be overturned.

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    1. I, Woodchipper   6 hours ago

      right next to 'penumbras and emanations'

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  46. AT   2 hours ago

    a new federal court ruling says.

    Amazing how deferential you are you to the federal courts, and how openly hostile you are to States rights.

    But tell me more about this LiBeRtaRiaNiSm thing you speak of.

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