Not So Fast, ICE
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Not so fast, ICE: People who enter the country illegally may still "have a weighty liberty interest in remaining here and therefore must be afforded due process under the Fifth Amendment," a new federal court ruling says.
The decision strikes a blow against the Trump administration's expanded "expedited removal" policy for undocumented migrants and threatens President Donald Trump's mass deportation plans. The expanded application "was widely considered a key tool for the administration to swiftly carry out deportations," notes Marianne LeVine at The Washington Post.
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An expedited removal policy has long been used to deport people apprehended near the U.S.-Mexico border after entering the country within the two weeks prior. But under a new Homeland Security policy issued in January, the Trump administration sought to apply expedited removal to illegal immigrants found anywhere in the country, even if they had been here for a significant amount of time.
Since then, the Trump administration has "made aggressive use of its newly expanded expedited removal power," as U.S. District Judge Jia M. Cobb put it in her opinion, issued Friday. "When people have appeared in immigration courts for their normally paced immigration proceedings, for instance, the Government has moved to dismiss those proceedings, promptly arrested individuals inside of those courts, and then shuttled them into much faster moving—and much less procedurally robust—expedited removal proceedings. Days later, these people find themselves removed."
"In defending this skimpy process, the Government makes a truly startling argument: that those who entered the country illegally are entitled to no process under the Fifth Amendment, but instead must accept whatever grace Congress affords them," noted Cobb. "Were that right, not only noncitizens, but everyone would be at risk. The Government could accuse you of entering unlawfully, relegate you to a bare-bones proceeding where it would 'prove' your unlawful entry, and then immediately remove you. By merely accusing you of entering unlawfully, the Government would deprive you of any meaningful opportunity to disprove its allegations."
The judge suggests that "prioritizing speed over all else will inevitably lead the Government to erroneously remove people via this truncated process," since "most noncitizens living in the interior have been here longer than two years, rendering them ineligible for expedited removal, and many are seeking asylum or another form of
immigration relief, entitling them to further process before they can be removed."
Cobb temporarily halted the administration's power to engage in speed deportations of people found far from the border.
This isn't about trying to upend the expedited removal process in general, Cobb stressed. "For nearly three decades, the federal government has subjected noncitizens apprehended at the border to fast-paced summary removal. Using that procedure, these people are quickly turned back across the border, typically after a single conversation with an immigration officer."
But "in applying the statute to a huge group of people living in the interior of the country who have not previously been subject to expedited removal, the Government must afford them due process," Cobb wrote.
Scenes from Ohio: Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost said that while county jails can hold people for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for more than 48 hours and help transport them, they can only do this under arrangements made between county commissioners and federal immigration authorities. "The sheriff, however, does not have independent contracting authority for this purpose," opined Yost. That renders a lot of what's going on in Ohio jails illegal, says the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Ohio. "The people detained under these invalid agreements are being held unconstitutionally and must be released immediately," ACLU of Ohio Legal Director Freda Levenson said.
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Slippery Slope
Just let us get married.
Just bake our cake, that’s all.
Just use our pronouns.
Let us dance in drag for your children.
Let teachers choose your children’s pronouns.
Let us buy infants from surrogates.
The demons are telling me to kill Christians. <— you are here
Would those demons be elected officials, university professors, and serious media figures?
Wait wait, the slippery slope from gay marriage inevitably leads to the murder of Christians? How does that work exactly?
Another tranny school shooter this time targeting a Christian school followed by some LGBTQ Masshole calling for more of this (the community doxxed his ass within an hour). Just sharing the post from a libertarian channel. Next time a tranifesto hits social media, it needs to responded to with extreme alacrity.
So why do you think legal gay marriage leads to this?
Government should be out of the marriage business and leave that to religious organizations. It wasn’t about filing as a couple on (unlibertarian) income taxes or getting picked up by the top’s insurance (which should be determined by the insurance company) but a shot across the bow on religion. Recently, the shots were not aimed at the bow.
No, we've been over this. Marriage is a government matter, born of the need to transfer property orderly and to gain alliances. People stuck religion in it afterwards because the only way to get superstitious dirt-farmers to behave is tell that the boogyman will get them for not following the rules. Thereafter , it became a religious thing because we made it so. Marriage pre-dates religion not the other way around.
Marriage pre-dates religion not the other way around.
Where the fuck did you get this ahistorical nonsense from? Religion has been a part of the fabric of human society since pre-history.
When did religion become involved?
As the Christian church became a powerful institution in Europe, the blessings of a priest became increasingly common. Through the years, "there have been differing views about whether weddings are primarily religious or secular events," said the Christian-based Nelson University. For "much of the early Christian Era, the Church stayed out of weddings and let the state handle the union of man and woman." But by the eighth century, Christian churches started to perform weddings, and the ritual became widely accepted as a sacrament.
Are you really that stupid that you think there weren't religions before Christianity, or did you just copypasta that AI slop because of your limited intellectual capabilities?
Both.
You didn't even try to look that up did you ? Of course not. Or else you would know that is a title header and not an AI prompt. From Hindu to Zoroastrians (the oldest poly & monotheistic religions respectively) , marriage followed tribal customs prior to the formation of
mumbo jumbo BSorganized religions. Try going to a museum .Marriage is a sacrament in most religions. It existed before the politics.
U.S. state governments got involved in marriage licensing to prevent miscegenation. No doubt racist southern Democrat driven.
The only government interest in marriage is contract law which can be done with... actual contracts. Instead of the vague, ever changing conditions applied to state marriage legal guidance.
There is zero government requirements for marriage that cant be done from legal documents. Even things like power of attorney are often done with legal documents instead of state assumptions on marriage.
And religion predates government. I don't see how you can even know what you claim to be true.
"Marriage pre-dates religion not the other way around"
This is the most retarded horseshit I've seen all day. The Shigir Idol and Gobekli Tepe were millennia before government recognized social partnership contracts.
And when it predated religion it also predated government.
Is that in your manifesto?
This is bullshit. Gay marriage was never about tearing down religion. It was about equal rights.
For a gay person it was about being able to have their marriage recognized by the government.
For sinister fucks like you it was 100% about tearing down religion.
Do you think people have the right to force a church to marry them?
Right after the SCOTUS legalized SS marriage some fag wrote he will continue to fight until he can parade down the aisle of Saint Patrick Cathedral in NYC and force them to marry him.
Was his name Lying Jeffy?
I wrote parade not waddle.
Elephants on parade?
Nobody has the right to 'force a church to marry them'. Gay marriage is all about the state/government definition of marriage. The religious definition is entirely separate. The law that allowed gay marriage didn't force any church to do anything. No one has *every* sued a church for not conducting a marriage.
I was asking Lying Jeffy his opinion.
What right? Its about social engineering; there is no right to marriage you fat pedo.
False.
No, dipshit. Hard core progressive politics led to this. Gay marriage was just their launch pad.
Just a quick reminder that "queer" diesel dyke Gayle Rubin included pedophilia as part of the collective of "forbidden" sexual proclivities that included transgenderism in western society during the early 80s in "Thinking Sex." Judith Butler has also expressed some rather fucked-up arguments behind a thornbush of word salads in favor of incest.
Modern transgenderism owes its existence to the pseudo-intellectual arguments of mentally ill lesbian feminists, as well as earlier pervert "sexologists" like John Money and Alfred Kinsey. Foucault and Beauvoir supported getting rid of age of consent laws. These "philosophers," "intellectuals," and "scientists" are all a bunch of pedophiles.
Moral relativism, i.e. enlightenment, is always an excuse for the worst behavior.
It's a new form of religious privilege.
Over the weekend, an Australian woman was convicted of misgendering 2 trans 'women' (dudes) who have faced complaints over their aggressive play in the women's soccer leagues down there, causing injuries to biological women. She faces a potential $200k fine / restitution payment.
https://x.com/ReduxxMag/status/1962553022287888837
Meanwhile, in the UK, a comedian was arrested when his plane landed at Heathrow because of 3 Twitter posts critical of the trans movement.
https://substack.com/@grahamlinehan
EU: where complaining about child rapists online garners longer prison sentences than does child rape.
Those tweets are violence against the child rapist communities.
And many of those prison terms were given to the child rape victims for saying mean things about their rapists. You couldn't make this stuff up.
I'm against the death penalty but the people who are pushing this need to pay dearly.
As I have said before, it is time for the Great Global Sort. We can divide the continents into homelands for ideologies. North America for callous free-thinkers. Snowflakes, kreptocrats, and commies can fight over the others.
North America, specifically the left coast of the US is where 98% of this stuff originates, and the US taxpayer is the one who spread it via USAID.
Using biological pronouns instead of cosplay ones is like riding around with a bear in one’s trunk.
Is that bear a him, her, or them?
Yogxi the bear
Oh, and NBC news apologized for misgendering the trans school shooter up in Minneapolis:
https://x.com/Timcast/status/1962858658594799880
While maintaining that the motive in this incident remains a 'mystery'.
He was just helping women to achieve equity in the school shooter space.
Ireland just sent armed officers to arrest the writer of The IT Crowd for dare saying men and women are different. Meanwhile lots of rape rape going on.
Dude, only white people can commit "crime".
At least that's what modern dramas on TV say.
Your puns are better than your fears
I fear you might one day evolve beyond a double-digit IQ troll. I agree, that’s not going to happen.
People who enter the country illegally may still "have a weighty liberty interest in remaining here..."
Yeah, to liberate the American taxpayer of his resources!
Am I right, people?
I think ENB was referring to food trucks and Mexican ass sex for their elitist urban betters.
Oh, yeah. ENB is back at it. How long has this been going on?
Don't forget discount child care, housekeeping, and restaurant staff.
My wife was born in Mexico, you racist bigot.
Did you smuggle her in?
He paid a cyote quite a bit for her
And he pounds you in the ass regularly, am I right you racist bigot?
My dad was, too. So?
2015 called and wants its thought-stopping power words back.
Waiting for charlie to drop a “Smooth move Exlax” mic drop moment. The mic drop will have occurred as a result of his shaking boomer hands more than the belief he won a debate since deep down he knows he gets PWNED in every contested discussion.
He. Went. To. Harvard.
I don’t doubt that Uber delivers there.
Does she work in a food truck?
Of course. That’s where the ass sex happens.
Duh.
So she’s also a big booty Latina?
My wife was born in Mexico, you racist bigot.
"Mexican" is not a race, idiot.
And neither does location of the birth convey what race the person is.
The same argument can be used to justify the crimes of any criminal.
Reason loves these nonsensical judges no matter how many times they get overturned.
This one is extra funny as this judge overruled decades of precedence based on a congressional law. But these judges all use the law as a way to be cute and argue around clearly defined words.
They know it will get tossed by the next court to look at it; but in the meantime they get back pats and attaboys at the club, and promises of corporate board positions and seats on NGOs when they retire.
Like a ranked choice voting state where some can vote for the Chase Oliver type unserious candidate first before reverting back to the Harris-Walz vote they were always going to eventually cast?
The same argument can be used to justify the crimes of any criminal.
Exactly. That's why the progs want to defund the police and close the prisons.
I think the real issue is that depriving illegal immigrants of due process first presupposes that they are illegal immigrants.
I think if President AOC starts deporting Kentucky crackers ... actually no one will care.
The judge suggests that "prioritizing speed over all else..."
I wonder if this judge regularly approves expedient plea deals in his court.
The sheriff, however, does not have independent contracting authority for this purpose...
Not all elected county officials are equal.
Is the Sheriff near?
No, gone blame it dang blammit! The sheriff is a ni...
Ah, authentic frontier gibberish.
The president is moonlighting as a life coach now.
I miss the days when the president was only our dad and our boss.
The feminization of government continues.
It was she/her turn.
If kamala was elected she would commission a $10billion live laugh love monument
If there were another astroturf Kamala-child actors-NASA astroturf video offering, there’d be some laughs there.
He's the kind of life coach that will tell you "walk it off, you pussy."
'People who enter the country illegally may still "have a weighty liberty interest in remaining here and therefore must be afforded due process under the Fifth Amendment," a new federal court ruling says.'
Cool. Does this ethic apply to some guy in your house, or in your underpants?
People who enter our country illegally have no legitimate interest in remaining here at all.
What if they were brought here as a baby and made a life here, got a job, have a family? Do they have no legitimate interest in remaining here?
Why didn’t they have any interest in being a legitimate citizen?
Using what legal path?
Yeah, if only we did not have rules for legal immigration.
Oh, kill yourself.
Leaving the country for a year and applying for a legal visa doc retard.
Using what legal path?
No one knows. It's impossible to say.
IT TAKES 30 YEARS!!!!! ARRRRGH!!!
AND YOU HAVE A BEAR IN YOUR TRUNK!!!!
Using what legal path?
Here, let me help: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate.html
You’re very good at playing dumb.
I somehow doubt it’s an act.
Tony is proof reddit should get banned.
We would have never found put about akitas if it were not for AskGayBros reddit.
Sounds rough.
Also sounds like not our problem.
If their father robbed you for millions, they would not have the right to keep the money that was stolen from you.
They do not.
Does the child of a bank robber have a legitimate claim to what was stolen?
What skin colors are we talking about?
Somalian asylum seekers on Minnesota? Have actually seen the arguments that those arrested for the fake food companies shouldn't be prosecuted. Despite the millions stolen from government.
No, but the IRS claims a legitimate right to tax the thief for the stolen money.
What if they were brought here as a baby...
It's horrible that their parents did that to them.
They still have the same due process rights as you and me.
And Trump rarely prosecutes them.
For a lot of them, they’ve had process and got deportation orders. That is due process, even if it’s not the due process you want.
They will continue to intentionally misunderstand what due process means, it is a common tactic of the left to repeat a false claim over and over to try to establish a baseline floor for debate.
When they say "due process," what they mean is "inifinite court cases and appeals until they die or amnesty," not actual due process. Same thing with "democracy," which to them means "our team's political hegemony," not actual democracy.
What?!? Progressives make up new meanings for words?
Raw milk momentum is turning sour in Florida.
These milk puns need to be put out to pasture.
Too cheesy?
Curd be!
Should refresh before punning. Chumby was in whey before.
Becoming udderly predictable
Yet titillating.
This cud go further. We are just skimming the surface here.
I posted prior by a skim margin. No worries.
I demand to be made whole!
Best I can do is 2%.
They still play well in Curdistan.
What about in Jersey?
UK:
https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1961092013698293945
If you're wondering why the UK Home Office is arguing that the rights of illegal migrants trumps those of British citizens
Just remember, this is the Home Office
[must-see photo]
This applies to UK as well as Judge Cobb maybe:
https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1962158763592339546
WTF have I just watched?!
Labour MP Bridget Phillipson is asked if she agrees with the Home Office that the rights of illegal migrants are more important than the rights of the people of Epping.
"Yes, of course we do"
They don't even bother to hide it.
Utterly vile.
https://x.com/addicted2newz/status/1962158763592339546
The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time
Wait, which one is Hitler now?
That was a quote from the onset of the Great War. The Austrian painter did participate in that, but as a message runner and not as a leader spreading national socialism.
My bad. But "Kaiser!" doesn't epithet as well.
Wilhelm? Kaiser Bill was the English (later American) monicker.
You can’t have chicks in charge.
Including Starmer.
And Macron
Nope gotta put those chicks in veils with only their eyes showing so they don't tempt the uncontrollable impulses of the alpha males who have been insufferably oppressed.
Like with Islam?
You need better links that actually have quotes. Otherwise I assume you are completely misrepresenting the facts.
The irony as you do exactly that. Make assertions without a single citation or link.
The quote is from the embedded video, you disingenuous neocon cockroach.
You can watch the entire interview for yourself. But the question and answer are at 8:02 into the interview. After many attempts to get her to answer the questions, finally at 12:37 [do you agree with what your layers said about the rights of migrants trumping the rights of citizens] "Yes, of course we do."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ikgrEVALM&ab_channel=SkyNews
He’s not going to watch this.
Read this this morning. Vile.
Globalists, and in reality cultural Marxists, need to be removed from any form of power.
Ironically it is the same bullshit we have been calling jeffsarc and mollysarc out for. Putting criminals and illegals above citizens.
See my comment about sorting people by ideology among continents. We can then just remove people.
Putting criminals and illegals above citizens.
In JesseBot-speak, "putting criminals above citizens" means granting criminals any rights whatsoever.
"What, you want to give the criminal a TRIAL? And spend all that taxpayer money on them? Why do you love criminals and hate taxpayer citizens so much?"
Fuck off you trash paid-shill. You calling anyone else here a "bot" is the height of hypocrisy.
Also, there is well established due process for people who are actually illegally in the country, that is common to every other nation on earth. You don't get a Supreme Court appeal when the very fact that you are illegally in the country is proven by the fact that you are illegally in the country right then.
Either you’ve completely ignored the information in this very thread, or you’re lying, Lying Jeffy.
Either way you’re filth.
He’s a pathological liar and that is not even his worst trait.
This is the way it is with globalists generally. "Foreigners first, citizens last" is their core principle, since foreigners are far easier to buy off with gibs and far easier to wind up as shock troops against western civilization than working class citizens. It's been that way since the end of World War II, and it's not an accident that this is actually largely pushed by upper class elites, academia, and social status chasers in the upper middle class, not blue-collar unions.
That's why the political left recoils in disgust when a nation's flag is flown in any other context outside carefully curated settings like the Olympics or sporting events, while sociopolitical flags like the tranny/peeoohsee flag are given precedence and legal protections to the point of jailing people who desecrate them. For the cuckservative right, the nation's flag is just laundry to cloak their forever war and open borders "invade the world, invite the world" policies, such as the "shining city on a hill" nonsense that Reagan constantly invoked, because like the Puritans, he mistakenly believed that the City of God could exist on earth as the City of Man.
The rollout of the United Kingdom's Online Safety Act continues to be a disaster.
Though better not tweet so, innit.
The authoritarians ruling Britain do not see it as a disaster.
Apophasis might be your friend here...
"I would NEVER say that the Online Safety Act is an unmitigated disaster and an affront to freedom of speech, because that would be a violation of the Online Safety Act."
"Roaches scurrying to their hidey holes continues to be a disaster for people turning on the lights."
We're talking about ENB, WaPo, and the same porn producers/creators who don't oppose Operation Chokepoint out loud when their guy is in office, but openly lament when a Republican who pays off porn stars wins an election. They'll conflate the US's "Are you over 18?" checkboxes with any/all UK subversion of rights (that subjects of the crown don't have) in order to make it look like if you aren't cheering the sexualization of children at your public library you're an authoritarian bigot.
We know this because they just did it two fucking weeks ago.
The Trump family's cryptocurrency launched yesterday.
I'm fine turning all of the NSA datacenters' compute power into mining this.
Wait, is this the Roundup for today? If so, is this the weakest effort ever?
Seems likely on both counts.
I’m gonna give Terrible Liz a pass on this, she may have been a last minute fill-in.
Plus, the meager volume just spares us from all the the Matt Yglesias and Mike Masnick garbage takes she so loves
There seems to be a theme in the naming convention of these people getting nailed for SNAP fraud...
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/pr/chicago-grocery-store-owner-sentenced-three-and-half-years-prison-fraudulently
CHICAGO — The owner of a Chicago grocery store has been sentenced to three and a half years in federal prison for fraudulently redeeming millions of dollars in benefits under the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (“SNAP”) and the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (“WIC”).
YOUSEF ABU ALHAWA owned a grocery store in the Chicago Lawn neighborhood on Chicago’s Southwest Side. From 2011 to 2019, Alhawa fraudulently redeemed or caused to redeem SNAP and WIC benefits for non-eligible items or cash, and redeemed SNAP and WIC benefits on behalf of stores ineligible to participate in SNAP and WIC. Alhawa admitted in a plea agreement with the government that he caused a loss to those programs of more than $8.3 million.
Previously on DOJ SNAP fruad...
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/usda-employee-and-five-others-charged-multimillion-dollar-food-stamp-fraud-and-bribery
[T]he Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”), announced the unsealing of a Superseding Indictment charging six individuals in connection with a sprawling fraud and bribery scheme that generated over $66 million in unauthorized transactions under the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (“SNAP”)—colloquially known as food stamps. This is one of the largest food stamp frauds in U.S. history. The defendants—MICHAEL KEHOE, MOHAMAD NAWAFLEH, OMAR ALRAWASHDEH, GAMAL OBAID, EMAD ALRAWASHDEH, and ARLASA DAVIS—are charged with conspiracy to steal government funds and to misappropriate U.S. Department of Agriculture (“USDA”) benefits, among other charges. DAVIS, a USDA employee, is additionally charged with bribery and honest services fraud.
What happens when people from a low-trust society are allowed in to a high-trust society. They will take anything they can get away with taking because that's normal life to them.
Also reparations.
Precisely the Trump family!
Now do the Bidens. And the Clintons. And then the Kennedies.
Hell, explain how Ilhan Omar is worth over $30M now.
Incest porn?
Maybe...because she funnels millions of dollars that idiots donate to her campaign fund to hire her husband's (new husband and former campaign manager, not her husband-brother) consulting company, effectively laundering her campaign funds into cash money in her community-property pocket.
Just wait until Trump gives all his friends and family preemptive pardons!
Trump stole SNAP funds? Do you have a cite for this?
All the illegals who dont ever get SNAP funds had it stolen from them.
It's also turned the US into a low-trust society.
Hey, our "media" deserves credit, too.
Parts of it, yes.
But "in applying the statute to a huge group of people living in the interior of the country..."
We need to set distance and time limits for this all not to be arbitrary.
Like 6 feet apart and two weeks?
So if you enter illegally but can make it to a non-border state, it's "olly olly oxen free"?
More fraud and abuse...this time by Chinese scammers preying on US senior citizens...
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/youtube-scambaiters-help-dismantle-65-million-multinational-fraud-ring-targeting
SAN DIEGO – Twenty-eight alleged members of a Chinese organized crime ring are charged in four federal grand jury indictments with participating in a massive $65 million fraud scheme targeting thousands of seniors across the United States—including a 97-year-old San Diego widow of a Holocaust survivor who lost her entire life savings.
After a nationwide, weeklong takedown in California, New York, Texas and Michigan, 25 of the defendants have been arrested; all are charged with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering.
DEFENDANTS
Case Number 25-cr-1097-TWR
Hua Wang Age: 48 Flushing, NY
Weining Su, aka “Ning Ma” Age: 27 Flushing, NY
Case Number 25-cr-1762-TWR
Hongsen Cao Age: 24 Los Angeles, CA
Case Number 25-cr-1765-TWR
Xiao Lei Xu, aka “Xiaolei Xu” Age: 39 Flushing, NY
Wen Chang Wang, Age: 26 Detroit, MI
Jiawen Cai, aka “Johnny Cai” Age: 28 Flushing, NY
Xinyu Shao Age: 27 Flushing, NY
Zhuhan Yin, aka “Iron Yin” Age: 30 Flushing, NY
[Redacted]
Ziyue Zhao, aka “Chris Zhao” Age: 30 Flushing, NY
Guangli Lin Age: 30 Flushing, NY
Wenzhi Chen Age: 23 Austin, TX
[Redacted]
Jiaxin Wang Age: 24 Flushing, NY
[Redacted]
Haotian Zhang, aka “Kevin Z” Age: 28 Flushing, NY
Dudu Chen, aka “Norris Chen” Age: 31 In Custody
Yuhui Sun, aka “Ian Sun” Age: 27 Flushing, NY
Jiaxin Jiang, aka “YiYi” Age: 26 In Custody
Dexiao Lin, aka “Prozac” Age: 27 Flushing, NY
Zhiyi Zhang, aka “Cream Pablo” Age: 29 Los Angeles, CA
Zhiwei Chen Age: 30 Levittown, NY
Bing Shen Age: 41 Flushing, NY
Zetian Zhang Age: 29 Flushing, NY
Huajian Chen, aka “Marco Chen” Age: 24 Austin, TX
Chongchong Li Age: 29 Los Angeles, CA
Jianhao Gao, aka “Gh Ghao” Age: 31 Flushing, NY
Case Number 25-cr-2208-TW
Cheng Li Age: 28 In Custody
“Operating since at least 2019 and rooted in Southern California, the criminal network—primarily composed of Chinese nationals, many in the U.S. illegally—worked closely with India-based scam call centers”
Maybe this will cause Reason to make a U-turn on their illegal immigration stance.
Of course, because everyone knows criminal behavior is based in nationality.
No, it’s based on those who see no problem with breaking laws. Like being here illegally.
I see. So a person who comes here illegally is a bad person because that person has no respect for laws, and therefore is just as bad as a murderer or a scammer.
A person who breaks one law is just as likely to break any law!
You just said it. Coming here (or anywhere else for that matter) illegally means said person has little to no respect for the laws of that particular nation.
As opposed to the 34x convicted felon in the White House, who ran a business that was itself convicted of 15 felonies and whose CFO went to prison.
Being in the US illegally isn't even a crime. If you are upset with illegal immigrants but support Trump, you are a hypocrite.
Being in the US illegally isn't even a crime.
Too funny.
Up is down, left is right, 2+2=5…
There are plenty of things that are illegal, but not criminal. Just sayin.
Civil violations are still illegal.
The term is not tied to just criminal violations.
Now tell us about those "felonies" and how much law was stretched to create them.
THAT is not a problem to chemjeff.
He also thinks the parents who won 1.5B against Alex Jones for defamation is legitimate despite no proving of any actual harm to a single parent.
He still won't admit that staying 60 days past a final order to deport is a felony. Which is a large percentage of those being deported right now.
Being here illegally, such as skipping reporting to customs or overstaying a visa is illegal. Charlie, I triple dog dare you to cross into Canada without reporting to their customs and see how far that gets you.
I suggest Iran or North Korea.
Formally renounce your citizenship, remain in the US, contact ICE, and see how well that works for you.
"Being in the US illegally isn't even a crime."
Wait, wut?
"34x convicted felon in the White House"
Jesus, Martin Luther King Jr., Socrates, Joan of Arc, Galileo, Dreyfus, Ghandi and Rosa Parks were all found guilty at fraudulent trials too. Also those 34 times were all for the same thing and it wasn't illegal or even unethical, you piece of shit shill.
Umm.. Trump doesn't belong in that company. Jesus never scammed real-estate deals, cheated on his wife or failed to pay his contractors. Just sayin because you're not a felon it doesn't mean your not a crook.
Hey, dipshit, even the bank agreed to give Trump the loan, and of all things, Trump paid it back to the bank on time and with interest. So how is that a crime, retard?
"Jesus never scammed real-estate deals"
Nor did Trump. Charging a political opponent as a criminal for giving an accurate estimate of their property's worth to a bank whose independent appraiser agreed, is where the the actual scam lay.
"...who ran a business that was itself convicted of 15 felonies and whose CFO went to prison."
Believe me, asswipe, if they could have hung that on Trump, they would have.
Now, please, fuck off and die.
Disobeying a deport order is a felony.
So is re-entry after a deportation.
Jeff never heard of a rap sheet.
A cookie sheet, OTOH is right in his lane.
I see. So a person who comes here illegally is a bad person because that person has no respect for laws, and therefore is just as bad as a murderer or a scammer.
A person who breaks one law is just as likely to break any law!
Drug warriors have been using that argument for a half a century.
Cite?
Sarc never heard of a rap sheet either.
“I see.”
Then follows up by saying a bunch of bullshit that shows he doesn’t. One of many different ways Lying Jeffy is dishonest.
I'm sorry pattern recognition is such a powerful tool.
Everybody Wang Ching tonight.
This will probably be a "local news" story...narrative violations and all that (despite the victim being an immigrant).
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/seeking-safety-from-the-war-artist-from-ukraine-brutally-stabbed-to-death-on-light-rail-train-for-no-apparent-reason-police-say/ar-AA1LxV5Z
A young woman who escaped the perils of war was brutally stabbed to death for no apparent reason on a popular light rail train in North Carolina last week, Tar Heel State law enforcement say.
Decarlos Dejuan Brown, Jr., 34, stands accused of one count of murder in the first degree, according to the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department.
On the night of Aug. 22, Iryna Zarutska, 23, died on the Charlotte Area Transit System's LYNX Blue Line train. She was repeatedly stabbed, at least once in the throat, police claim.
The victim, an artist, had recently arrived in the United States from Ukraine, according to a GoFundMe for her family. She left her native country in order to leave the daily threat of violence behind.
After that, the ride carried on for some four and 1/2 minutes without incident, police said. Then, without warning, provocation, or any other sort of interaction, Brown unfolds a knife, pauses, stands up, and finally stabs Zarutska over and over, according to law enforcement.
The footage shows the woman is rendered non-responsive as blood hits the floor and the man gets up and walks away, according to the affidavit.
It's her own fault for probably calling the migrant the N-word.
(Am I doing this right, legacy media?)
The migrant was the white woman from Ukraine. The killer was a local black man who, according to the CCTV footage, never interacted with her nor she with him before he stabbed her in the throat.
But, yeah, media will probably spin it the other way, unless they completely ignore it for the intersectionality narrative issues presented.
Oh, shit, you're right. I had it backwards. Still, the Ukrainian woman probably looked like someone who would use the N-word, and that's justification enough to kill her, or so I've been told.
Rosie O’Donnell lies about Annunciation shooter
“What do you know? [The shooter] was a white guy, Republican, MAGA person. What do you know? White supremacist,” O’Donnell said.
Sounds like a foreign entity trying to influence our elections, maybe Trump should launch an investigation on her with a FISA warrant.
Fuck Rosie with a pineapple. Fruit or hand grenade.
Poor pineapple. 🙁
She walked that back over the weekend:
https://x.com/MrReaganUSA/status/1962454654346002635
"I assumed, like most shooters"
That they were black?
The recent spate of them are pretty much all trans "women" bent on killing Christian children.
Which is weird because this shooter *did follow a standard MO* - nowaday most shooters are trans and they all do the same thing.
nowaday most shooters are trans
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/08/29/shooting-minnesota-school-transgender-online-untruths/85876291007/
How many hands does it normally take to count trans people in a typical crowd of 1000?
“You can count on less than one hand how many of those were perpetrated by a transgender individual“
Less than one hand? Just the framing is biased. And it’s a complete lie.
The leftist accused of trying to run down a Border Patrol agent in Knox County, Maine on Aug. 25 to stop him from arresting two illegal migrants involved in a large vehicle crash is trans.
Olivia G. Wilkins, a female from Thomaston, Maine who goes by "Stevie" ("he/they") was federally charged with aggravated reckless conduct, criminal threatening with a dangerous weapon, driving to endanger and other crimes.
Wilkins follows several other trans people charged over serious assaults on federal agents this year. In July, a Texas Antifa cell shot up an ICE facility in Alvarado. Several of the domestic terror suspects are trans.
In January, Teresa "Milo" Youngblut, a member of the "Ziz" trans death cult, allegedly shot and killed a Border Patrol agent in Vermont
https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1962965909137449119
Well, she was right about him being a white guy.
And now she's sorry for misgendering him.
Is this like when Nelson trued to claim the Trump Butler shooter and golf course apparent shooter number two were both conservative as they both had been shown to have donated to Act Blue.
"In defending this skimpy process, the Government makes a truly startling argument: that those who entered the country illegally are entitled to no process under the Fifth Amendment, but instead must accept whatever grace Congress affords them," noted Cobb. "Were that right, not only noncitizens, but everyone would be at risk. The Government could accuse you of entering unlawfully, relegate you to a bare-bones proceeding where it would 'prove' your unlawful entry, and then immediately remove you. By merely accusing you of entering unlawfully, the Government would deprive you of any meaningful opportunity to disprove its allegations."
Not to worry, real Americans have nothing to fear from this 'expedited removal' process. After all, 'real Americans' don't speak Spanish. So there is no possibility that ICE would possibly mistake a 'real American' from an illegal INVADER criminal.
Don’t you think it’s a little too early yet for a terrible strawman argument?
Hey, if sarc can do it, why not?
It is not a strawman argument at all. Go look up the definition. Also ICE has wrongly deported US citizens.
Cite?
Born in East LA
I was going to go with Up In Smoke.
No they haven't. The only cases any of you PhD in retard idiots ever cite is parents choosing to take their children when they are deported. So you know youre lying.
Therefore, open borders!
Also, Trump bad!
There are tens of millions of Americans who speak Spanish. The US is now the second largest Spanish speaking country in the world.
Hence why Jeffy’s argument is pure straw.
So what?
The sloppy chemist’s strawman is typically dreadful. The US doesn’t have an official language and the US includes Puerto Rico. Your post is really worthless given that reality, but not surprising.
The US doesn’t have an official language
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/designating-english-as-the-official-language-of-the-united-states/
So you can tell who's likely an illegal immigrant. A person who chooses not to learn the official language! Right?
No, that just means you're a lazy and stupid dipshit.
No, that means ICE are full of lazy dipshits when they profile based on race or language.
WTF? Do you really think that language is not a viable--and objective--way to identify possible illegals?
"Are you illegally in the country?"
"Qué?"
"I guess we'll never know."
I think it had much more to do with successful interactions of all kinds. Such as what happens when trying to speak Norwegian while in Japan. Or trying to use Kalmykian when in Peru. Communication breakdown.
I get in tranny groomer MAPedo world businesses and societies are to bend the knee to the tranny groomer MAPedo. Whether it be a simple economic interaction, something more important at a vocation, or something dire like communicating with a health professional during a medical emergency it is valuable to have both parties (or all parties) understanding the words being communicated.
When flying internationally, each airline’s host country language is used followed by English to provide each passenger the ability to know what is going on. English is the international travel language (except apparently for rapefugees invading the US for access to the treasury and orifices of future victims). But it is helpful to know that host nation’s/region’s language.
Is ICE in Puerto Rico rounding up anyone speaking Spanish?
You clearly object to the plenary powers doctrine.
Why should the Supreme Court upend over a century of immigration law precedent?
Why should the Supreme Court upend a century's worth of precedent in overturning birthright citizenship?
You failed to answer the question.
Yes I did, whether you realize it or not. The appeal to authority fallacy is a fallacy.
Michael did not appeal to authority, dipshit. He merely asked should SCOTUS upset a century of precedent as our common law system is based on precedent, idiot.
You replied with a question and failed to answer his.
PWNED!
Yup!
Michael Ejercito: "Why should the Supreme Court upend over a century of immigration law precedent?"
creamjeff radical racist: "appeal to authority fallacy"
Oh wow!
"...U.S. District Judge Jia M. Cobb put it in her opinion, issued Friday..."
How many were interviewed before they found one who would agree?
Idiot. District Judges are assigned randomly to cases.
Actually, they’re not assigned randomly, if you’ve been paying attention.
Sure. And nobody ever went court shopping.
charlie is a particularly imbecilic pile of lying, TDS-addled shit, ain't he?
Explains Boasberg's involvement in so many cases. Just blind luck of the draw.
charlie's dead brain.
Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost
Ahem, THE Ohio State Attorney General Dave Yost
I see what you did there.
That state down south?
Trump administration sought to apply expedited removal to illegal immigrants found anywhere in the country, even if they had been here for a significant amount of time.
That murder was years ago! Why are you harassing me now!?
That's right. Illegal immigrants who have been in the country for years must be presumed to be murderers.
Stacking those strawman high already.
Oh, right! Instead, you think the crime of illegal entry is comparable to the crime of murder. My bad. Yes yes of course, every crime is equally as severe and should all be punished just as harshly.
Just how much straw do you have this morning, Jeffy?
MAGA: Misdemeanors are more serious than felonies.
Democrats: mean words are worse than murder.
If only I could kill snowflakes with words.
charliehall: 'Let me prove what a fucking lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit I am'
Everyday, charlie, in nearly every post, asswipe.
^ This
Not at all. I think the crime of murder deserves a death sentence or possibly life at hard labor without possibility of parole.
Illegally entering the country warrants nothing more than removal from the country--some limited detention might accrue between the time one is caught being in the country illegally and the time one can be legally removed (had your hearing or chose Voluntary Departure), but detention is NOT the point of the proceedings, removal is.
So weird watching jeff constantly making this point when during j6 he said shooting trespassers was libertarian.
Come on, chemjeff. That strawman has been beaten enough.
Will you take fifty cents to stop posting such shitty ad hominems?
I hope ICE "mistakes" you for an illegal immigrant and deports you to Uganda before you have the chance to retrieve your citizenship papers.
I hope a select group of deserving, friendly immigrant visitors occupies your living room.
Spoiler: he lives in mom’s basement.
Don't complain if someone comes here to say "I hope you get raped and murdered by an illegal alien."
You all are going to say that ANYWAY regardless of what I say.
Fuck you. I've always tried to be more than fair with you. Say hello to the grey box.
Oh, you mean like how you deliberately misconstrue and mock my past comments? You call that "more than fair"?
Around here, I would say you have been slightly above average. But considering that the average is somewhere between the curb and the sewer, that isn't saying very much.
Oh, bullshit. Even when your comments and Sarc’s comments are posted in their entirety, you still lie and claim you never said nor meant what you typed, slimy son of a bitch.
...yet it was not written.
I hope one of the neighborhood fathers finds out about you.
For years they thought the fat recluse living in his mom’s basement was just addicted to food until one day they found out about his true hobby…
Illegal immigrants who have been in the country for years are illegal immigrants.
Note that none of the logical fallacies the MAGAs are accusing other of using are correct. Are we not at the point where MAGAs are randomly accusing people of logical fallacies?
It would be nice if you weren’t so fucking retarded, Molly.
They think they're master gaslighters when they're really just wisps of smoke without a flame.
So cute all the projection from you and doc retard lol.
Kill yourself.
The longer they're here collecting wages under the table, consuming education and healthcare dollars, swindling old people, stealing SNAP dollars, stealing corporate technology, voting themselves bennies that they shouldn't even be able to vote on just means our investment in their future food truck enterprise will pay out more on the back end.
Studies show that 83% of illegal immigrants are deported right before starting their multi-million-dollar US-debt reduction business. Similar studies show more than 75% of compulsive gamblers quit right before their big payout.
The number of votes cast by non-citizens is statistically insignificant.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/election-fact-check-noncitizens-vote-instances-vanishingly-rare/story?id=115025674
I'll admit this is from a mainstream news source. I'm sure you could find something in a right wing news source documenting individual cases of non-citizens voting (usually by mistake).
And how do you know if these voters are citizens or noncitizens? It’s not like they attach their names to the ballots when they’re mailed in.
Dude what? Every ballot that is mailed in has the voter's name and a unique tracking number.
Imagine what sort of better polices we'd have if climate change was treated as a scientific subject rather than as a religion:
"Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Resetting the Climate Debate"
[...]
"The Department of Energy's new climate report is making waves, offering a fresh look at the alarmist claims pushed by special-interest groups and prior administrations. The report's five scientists lay out data showing that while climate change is real, it isn't the threat suggested by media or the climate lobby. On this episode of All Things, Energy Secretary Chris Wright takes Kim Strassel through the findings, including the upsides of warming, the minimal economic effects of climate change, the limits of U.S. policy actions and the lack of evidence that climate is related to the frequency or intensity of extreme weather..."
Hey, if Americans did not confuse politics, religion, and sport, what would we argue about?
Whether tits or ass make the world go 'round?
Similar to the great Ginger/Mariann debate.
And then the Petticoat Junction wars that tore the country apart.
The ‘60s were a turbulent time indeed.
Which persisted until the nation was reunited by Chrissy Snow's bouncy dance moves.
Gilligan's Island settled this debate in the episode where Mary Ann hits her head and thinks she is Ginger, and gets all dolled up. The real Ginger looks grade B in comparison.
MaryAnne's face looked better than Ginger, IMO.
But I'm also not a big fan of red heads, so I guess I'm biased.
(Before I get hate for this, I would just prefer, all other things being equal, a blonde or brunette over a red head.)
That’s always a case of YMMV, and why ratings systems are subjective.
IMHO, red>blonde>brunette.
Sure, I get your preference. But you'd still say Maryanne was better looking than Ginger in this specific case, though, right?
The show would have been better if Ginger and Mariann had both been played by the same actress.
The Three B's of Happiness: Bacon, Boobs, Booze.
Problem is that the Trump administration has a history of fudging reports to drive their own agenda. Nothing in this report can be taken at face value.
Cite? It looks like massive projection on your part.
Trump himself was convicted of 34 counts of felony document fraud! Must I post a link?
Yes, and explain how those "felonies" were created.
You mean 34 counts that were made up out of thin air from something barely considered a misdemeanor that the bank even said they were fine with the loan as Trump paid it all back with interest?
Do better, progtard.
34 counts of victimless crime! TDS-addled slimy piles of lying lefty shit luv them some victimless crime!
Come on, Sevo. I bet libertarians have NEVER had issues with victimless crimes.
Lets notice the irony of MAGAs railing against victimless crimes in the comment section about a victimless crime they will pursue to the detriment of everything else.
How the fuck is illegal immigration a viCtiMLeSs cRiMe, you piece of shit?
I can think of at least a dozen different ways Americans are being victimized by illegal immigration.
But low pay, lack of job openings, and expensive housing are all due to evil, greedy capitalists, right?
There is a lack of job openings for full-time jobs that have benefits. There is no lack of job openings for minimum wage part-time no-benefits service industry stuff. Only problem is that with minimum wage part-time no-benefits service industry stuff you need medicaid and food stamps and subsidized housing . (Maybe you can afford housing in Ashpit Mississippi where you can't get medical care anyway because no doctor wants to live there).
Lester, ever hear of an H1B visa? It’s used to depress wages and benefits in quite a few jobs.
We post a lot of victims of your precious illegals.
ITL, you're confusing the OTHER bullshit (civil) case against Trump with the bullshit (criminal) case against Trump.
It gets hard to keep them straight when all the cases involved novel legal approaches to guarantee the end result the Dems wanted, regardless of the law or facts.
This asswipe seems to think that 34 counts of felonious late library-book returns has something to do with doing science.
Fuck off and die, shitstain
Yes.
Post us a link that shows how Trump kept his own books and picked “legal expenses” from the dropdown menu in Quicken to describe a check cut to a lawyer.
Tell us, in detail, where you think Dr. Judith Curry was wrong in her book “Climate Uncertainty and Risk”.
MG has a history of allow the raging case of TDS to get in the way of logic, assuming MG is in any way familiar with it in the first place.
Cite?
And this differs from other reports from other administrations?
Biden's 'Jobs Reports", by any chance?
And here, Curry, Koonin, et al, have the data and are not going to 'revise' it a month later.
"Were that right, not only noncitizens, but everyone would be at risk. The Government could accuse you of entering unlawfully, relegate you to a bare-bones proceeding where it would 'prove' your unlawful entry, and then immediately remove you.
Not sure why "prove" is in quotations. And yes, this only effect noncitizens. How would the government prove citizens entered illegally?
Jeff sez any citizen that can speak Spanish is in grave danger.
And nobody who speaks Spanish is a danger to others!
The inverse implication is kinda detached too. Is the assumption that every murder, assault, DUI, etc., etc., etc. trial is an OJ Simpson-style affair rather than a "bare-bones proceeding where it would 'prove' your [guilt]"?
Oh, I love this tacit admission from the government on what they really think about illegal immigrants.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/noem-accuses-cbs-of-deceptively-editing-interview-on-kilmar-abrego-garcia/ar-AA1LETXq
So, Security Barbie was on TV trashing Garcia, and CBS edited parts of the interview out that had unsubstantiated claims. Of course, Barbie complained, and her spokesperson said:
“If Kilmar Abrego Garcia did not want to be mentioned by the Secretary of Homeland Security, then he should have not entered our country illegally and committed heinous crimes,” a DHS official told The Hill on Friday morning.
So, in their view, because Garcia entered the country illegally, that means he not only has no right to be here, but no personal dignity and no standing to complain about anything. He is a complete unperson with zero standing on any matter whatsoever.
He’s got a deportation order, dipshit.
But Jeff and Tufts might want him to stay.
Two
Jeff knows. He just enjoys being dishonest. Being Lying Jeffy isn't just a job for him, it's also his hobby.
It’s the center of his being.
Disagree. Pathological lying is minor compared to what really drives his urges.
I hope you're kidding. So childish.
Why was the interview edited ?
To intentionally make her answers fit the narrative CBS wanted to push.
"Creative editing" to slander an interview subject by making them appear to say something they did not is a protected press freedom, or something.
Yep. Michael Moore is famous for this. He really pissed off Trey Parker and Matt Stone when they were interviewed for “Bowling for Columbine” by editing the interview with them to make them say something they did not. Hence why Moore wound up as a suicide bomber in “Team America: World Police”.
Suicide bombers are smarter than MM.
The nails and ball bearings in a suicide bomber's vest are probably more intelligent...
What did Moore have them say that they didn't?
I'm a huge South Park fan, and I remember my college roommate dragging me with him to watch Bowling for Columbine in the theater. But I don't recall the interview with them in the movie.
From 2004: https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/trey-parker-and-matt-stone-of-south-park-condemn-michael-moore.36723/
And from the BBC interview of Parker and Stone.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2005/01/13/matt_stone_team_america_interview.shtml
I just watched the pseudo South Park animation from Bowling for Columbine, and I completely understand Trey and Matt's frustration with Moore. To show that clip right after the interview of Stone is Michael Moore to a T.
Plus the animated clip is chock full of half-truths and outright lies, also typical of anything Michael Moore releases. When he's not outright lying, Moore loves to use juxtaposition to imply correlation or even causation. Show the South Park-style animation right after the interview with Stone to imply South Park endorses it or even created it, and cite that the KKK starting in the Deep South in 1871 is related to the NRA. Other than the year of founding, there is zero similarity to the KKK. Two Union Army officers started the NRA in NEW YORK to promote rifle shooting and marksmanship. Fuck, Moore is such a dishonest shit.
Haha. I did not know that. “A giant socialist weasel”, indeed.
I wonder what all the F.A.G.s did to piss those guys off? They all still suck to this day.
Not the first time CBS has done this. Dan “Fake But Accurate” Rather, anyone?
Hey, the dude was under fire!
duplicate
You're thinking of Brian Williams of NBC news who lied about being in a helicopter in Iraq in 2003 that was shot down.
I was thinking more of the Killian letter.
I know you were. I was replying to Earth-based Human Skeptic, since he wrote, Hey, the dude was under fire! That sounded like a description of Brian Williams' tall tale.
"Hey, the dude was under fire!"
Was HRC there?!
And the infamous Harris word salad interview re-edit.
"...because Garcia entered the country illegally, that means he not only has no right to be here, but no personal dignity and no standing to complain about anything."
Correct. I'm glad you're finally figuring this out.
"Security Barbie"
How rude and misogynistic.
Wonder what he would call her if she was unattractive?
Ugly?
Mom.
Now let's discuss the very long list of epithets you and your team used for Hillary Clinton...
You mean like "crook" and "murderer" and "thief"?
The only epithet I ever used was "Sec. Clinton". So fuck you.
Even if your claim is true, you are willfully ignoring the many thousands of times Hillary was referred to with vile and nasty names, far worse than "Security Barbie".
Why does your demand for decency never land upon the MAGA trash around here who say the worst possible things?
What examples?
Of course he doesn't have any. Lying Jeffy loves to lie.
Quit your concern trolling.
Feel free to list them. And let us know who said what.
Did CBS butcher the interview because Garcia complained?
So, in their view, because Garcia entered the country illegally, that means he not only has no right to be here, but no personal dignity and no standing to complain about anything. He is a complete unperson with zero standing on any matter whatsoever.
If he wants "personal dignity" and "standing to complain about anything".
I like how you unironically post an example of the media being dishonest and don’t have a problem with it.
Everything you wanted to know about Donna Brazile.
https://x.com/datarepublican/status/1962366331577422097?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
The Trump family's cryptocurrency launched yesterday.
I know I lost big on the Hawk Tua coin, but I got a feeling this one will be bigly successful. Look at Trump's track record...
People that buy shitcoins laugh at people that buy lotto tickets. Both dumbasses.
More local news?
https://flvoicenews.com/florida-authorities-uncover-widespread-illegal-alien-cheating-scheme-for-cdl-exam-report/
Florida authorities uncover widespread illegal alien cheating scheme for CDL exam: report
The report details how a group of men, including five who were arrested in Jacksonville, used hidden cameras and earpieces to receive test answers from accomplices outside of a DMV testing center.
The scheme, which the Florida Highway Patrol calls “organized fraud,” allowed applicants to obtain a CDL without a proper understanding of English or road signs.
Investigators told First Coast News that the cheating scheme was “highly organized” and that dozens of men were registered as applicants at addresses that were too small to house them all.
The investigation, which FHP Sergeant Dylan Bryan told the outlet is a “very elaborate case,” has so far led to five arrests in Jacksonville, with authorities stating the cheating is a nationwide issue.
All five of the men arrested requested interpreters, according to the arrest reports.
Hey, driving a big rig on public roads and occasionally killing people is a human right! Especially for super-innocent illegal immigrants.
For an ENB roundup...
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/08/26/hey-the-new-york-times-noticed-that-trump-is-not-hostile-to-gays-n3806177
Shawn McCreesh, the Times' White House Correspondent, did a deep dive into the not-so-underground gay mafia that has enormous power in the Trump administration. The story was very well done for a New York Times piece, although I got the sense that McCreese is sympathetic to the view that MAGA gays are deluded into believing they are welcome within the Republican Party, when it's quite clear that Trump finds being around gays to be quite natural and no big deal.
Whatever the case, it is undeniable that gays play an outsized role in MAGA, both inside and outside the administration. Jillian Michaels, the fitness guru, is both out and proud and enthusiastically MAHA, and Dave Rubin is a wildly popular MAGA commentator and unabashedly gay. Peter Thiel helped break Trump into Silicon Valley money and influence.
And inside the administration? Some of the most powerful administration figures are openly gay. They just don't define their identity as gay activists.
Bessent is a great example of the gay men of the Trump administration. 99% of people have no idea he is gay, even though it is hardly a secret. That's because Bessant is known as Secretary of the Treasury, not a flamboyant gay man who prances around in dresses and gets his rocks off in a Senate committee room, as Democratic Party gays do.
The difference is important. The "Queer" movement is about rejecting the norms of society in every way possible. If you go to a Pride parade, is it all about flaunting your sexuality and rejecting the bourgeoisie. The Trump tribe is about American greatness; the Biden tribe was all about how awful "normie" Americans are.
MAGA homosexuals don't want to force everybody into a "Queer" mold. They are here to make society better for everybody, not just themselves. That's how you get a Scott Pressler, who did as much as anybody to deliver Pennsylvania to Trump as anybody. He is beloved by MAGA because he wants the same thing we do: to Make America Great Again.
So what?
Idiot.
You're right in one sense, we shouldn't care. But in another sense, the comments from the 85% partisan Democrat commenters are illuminating. See, they might have career success as openly gay Republicans, but that just makes them twice as evil. And they're white and privileged. And Trump will force the Supreme Court to overturn Obergfell something something.
Maybe one day Democrats will be able to take the win, but I wouldn't bet on it - taking wins doesn't drive campaign dollars. No, better to burn the apostates for their other crimes - mostly the crime of not being subservient Democrats as expected.
Because of the comparison, asswipe.
Yes we know. Gays are totally fine as long as they know their place and don't make their presence known to anyone else. They must treat homosexuality like it's some embarrassing disease that it would be impolite to talk about in public.
That's exactly why reading the comments were crazy. Knowing their place means acknowledging that gay people should be perpetual victims supporting only one party who will never accept them as equal to other people because that nullifies their strategic value.
Situations like this always remind me of this Key&Peele skit. One of the funniest, but biting, commentary on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3h6es6zh1c&ab_channel=ComedyCentral
"Oh I get it. I'm not persecuted, I'm just an asshole."
That was a great clip, and appropriate for the topic.
Still, the best K&P skits, IMO, were the substitute teacher ones (both parts) and the listing of the players names in the College Football all-star game (two parts as well).
"don't make their presence known to anyone else."
Or just, you know, not dry humping in the street with dildos in their mouths.
"Gays are totally fine as long as they know their place and don't make their presence known to anyone else."
Apparently their "place" includes the upper echelons of the Trump administration which probably stokes a white hot fury in your demented soul.
But anyway, gays are totally fine as long as they don't decide to turn their sexual attractions into a religious cult that must be followed like your execrable LGBTQQ2S+ acolytes do.
But you knew that already, you garbage DNC bot.
The idiocy here is that these people *do* make their homosexuality known. As pointed out, several of these people are 'out and proud'.
Its just that, for them, being gay *isn't their whole life!* Its not the only thing that's even slightly interesting about them. They're whole people, not limited themselves to being caricatures.
Yes, it is selling out not making whom you fuck the central point of one's identity.
Wtf are you even talking about? Man, you’re more broken than sarc now.
I didn’t know Jillian Michaels was gay. I’d watch that for sure.
The LIBERTY to stomp all over and destroy your home?
What Liberty interest? Foreigners have no 'rights' to the USA.
They are invited. They aren't entitled.
this ruling is complete insanity. By that reasoning, the whole world should be allowed to just come across our border, no limits, no background , no vetting, nothing. They have "liberty interest" in being here after all.
That is, in fact, Reason's stated position.
Maxine Waters giving Jasmine Crocket something to aspire to...
[On the firing of Fed Board member]
"It is time to call for Article [Amendment] 25 of the Constitution of the United States of America to determine his unfitness, to determine that something’s wrong with this president,” Waters said. “And I would suggest that we move very aggressively to talk about the danger to this country and to our democracy and not play around with this, because this is absolutely one of the most destructive things that this president could do,"
I love seeing the demented commenting on the mental issues of the President.
clearly the being atop Maxine's head is in charge.
She wants to invoke the 25th amendment because he shit-canned the DEI member of the Fed?
That dessicated sack of pig shit is even older and more demented than Trump, and is just another example of why we really need an amendment to impose age limits on all federally elected positions, up to and including not letting them run over their time if their term goes over the age limit.
Set an age limit of 80 (I'd say 75 but I'll be generous), and if you're going to pass that limit while in office, you either don't get to run for the office, or you have to resign on your 80th birthday, no exceptions. That should get some of these dinosaurs out of office and out of power, and bring in some fresh blood to take responsibility for running the country.
Concurrently, the voting age needs to be raised to 25. If you're not mature enough to own a firearm at 18, as the left asserts, you're not mature enough to vote. Put the limit as the same age as when you can run for Congress.
I'd go with 26, the age at which even Obamacare law finally says they're not children anymore.
25 and/or net taxpayer.
I wonder if (D)umb Cunt Waters thinks that if Democrats lead a coup and oust Trump, she gets to pick his replacement.
>>a new federal court ruling says.
you may have missed the last eight months of everyone else @Reason jumping the gun on federal court rulings.
>>But "in applying the statute to a huge group of people living in the interior of the country who have not previously been subject to expedited removal, the Government must afford them due process," Cobb wrote.
so if invasion, willkommen.
Everyone knows that due process and equality under the law are leftist ideals. True freedom lovers support a tiered justice system where undesirables have no rights and those with power are above the law.
So fucking broken.
A) you dont know nor give a fuck what due process means. You just repeat ignorant leftist talking points with zero intellectual curiosity to educate yourself. You still fail to realize there are multiple levels of due process. No you dont get a jury for your speeding ticket retard.
B) equality under the law is something you truly dont believe in. See your defense of BLM rioters and J6 defendants. Your applauding the Trump trials, going after his lawyers, pro life protestors facing 5 years in prison, etc.
C) you defended 20 years for parading in a public building for 20 minutes and you claim others are for tiered justice. Fuck off Maddow.
D) see a. You dont give a fuck what the term rights or due process means.
Speaking of tiered justice systems, including codified in law, how about critiquing Democrats (that you are totally not)?
Red herrings are red.
You keep dodging.
You claim to always criticize democrats. So let's go back to the last 10 criticisms of democrats in articles here and link all your criticisms of either the right or left in those articles? It will be a blow out for the former.
Harris-Walz could have done a better job highlighting why Trump is such a poopyhead and now let me tell you the ways…
Everyone knows that due process and equality under the law are leftist ideals
Actually we know they are not leftist ideals since the left only advances these as standards when they are useful to attack their enemies. But when it comes to Title IX sex police, CRT, and racial discrimination in education and employment the left actively opposes due process and equality under the law.
Revealingly none of the leftists who comment here claiming to support due process and equality spend any effort criticizing these failures. It seems they are more interested in covering them up.
JD Vance is wrong:
Vice President JD Vance. Speaking to Fox News this week, Vance threw his support behind the UK flag movement
"It is in fact a good thing to be proud of your country and we should push back against the crazies who say we should be so ashamed of our culture and our heritage that we shouldn’t be willing to fly a flag. It’s craziness, we’ve got to call that craziness out, and encourage our European friends to follow suit.
They can join JD Vance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWmdzJAwzkY
Why the ‘sensible centrists’ are wrong about everything
ABC News:
At least 57 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims wounded, according to police.
The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.
Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"
Damn all those crazy violent white MAGA men in Chicago!
Well, according to Jussie Smollett, it’s MAGA country.
You see his Netflix documentary? Hilarious gaslighting.
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=black+commedian+on+Jesse+Smollet&mid=B878E61D0AE28BEA7028B878E61D0AE28BEA7028&FORM=VIRE
Dave Chappel
I'm not clear on the 100 mile rule here. Is that spelled out in the statute or is that just the historical executive policy? Doesn't make much sense to me either way. So if somebody can enter illegally, cross the magic line and remain undetected for two weeks they get a get out of jail free card? If that's written into the law the judge might win. If not she'll go down in flames.
Judicial precedent. The USSC supreme court said it was ok.
Though 80% of the US lives within 100 miles of a border (which seems to include the ocean and international airports) so I don't see that working out for the judge either;)
"In defending this skimpy process, the Government makes a truly startling argument: that those who entered the country illegally are entitled to no process under the Fifth Amendment, but instead must accept whatever grace Congress affords them," noted Cobb.
the problem is that this flies in the face of Supreme Court precedent. Laws enacted by Congress regarding the admission or exclusion of aliens are subject only to "limited judicial review", Fiallo v. Bell, 430 U.S. 787, 795fn.6 (1977)
As such, under Supreme Court precedent, due process in the immigration context is what Congress says it is.
Oof...
"What a toxic mix of Islamist intolerance and depthless self-pity. What a foul combination of violence and victimology, where even as you’re raping a Jew or bombing Jews from their homes you somehow manage to convince yourself that you’re the real victim.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/09/01/what-a-pathetic-bunch-of-cry-bullies-israels-enemies-are/
Has Earth ever had such a gathering of pathetic cry-bullies as we now see in the anti-Israel movement? Hamas carried out the worst mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust and then wailed ‘War crime!’ when those Jews fought back. Hezbollah rained missiles on northern Israel for two years, causing mass destruction, forced displacement and the deaths of Druze kids, and then cried ‘Barbarism!’ when Israel responded with the pagers operation to take out Hezbollah’s top dogs. The Houthis say ‘We hate the Jews and we want to kill them’ and then act all affronted when the Jews say ‘Nah, not today’. And Iran sponsors all this apocalyptic agitation against the Jewish State and then goes blubbing to the UN when the Jewish State takes out its leading military men.
How do these crybullies have credibility with anyone?
"For nearly three decades, the federal government has subjected noncitizens apprehended at the border to fast-paced summary removal. Using that procedure, these people are quickly turned back across the border, typically after a single conversation with an immigration officer."
This is where they lose me every time. If you are caught at the border, you can be chucked out immediately. But for some reason if you make a concerted effort to elude authorities and make it to the interior you deserve special treatment? It makes no sense. Perverse incentives rewarding the most deceptive.
Declare yourself at the border or face expedited removal. Full stop.
Remember that time Nadler shit his pants on stage?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-rep-jerry-nadler-retire-congress/
Child rapists in EU getting theirs. Seems like fathers and brothers may have finally had enough?
Of course, vigilante justice is wrong, and we should never encourage people taking the law into their own hands.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15056287/Hooded-men-attack-young-migrants-Spain-rape-14-year-old-Violence-comes-wake-riots-Swiss-city.html
I'm mostly in favor of vigilante justice when the justice system fails to produce proper outcomes. Unfortunately that saw me cheering vigilante justice against Derek Chauvin before facts showed the state botched his prosecution and deprived him of proper justice.
that those who entered the country illegally are entitled to no process under the Fifth Amendment, but instead must accept whatever grace Congress affords them
Yes, because the 5th doesn't override the core power of naturalization.
But beyond this, it isn't the duty of any given government to make up for the freedom deficit of any other.
>The decision strikes a blow against the Trump administration's expanded "expedited removal" policy
No it doesn't.
1. They're already getting due process.
2. All the people you keep whining about turned out to already have deportation orders from previous administrations. They had plenty of time to challenge it - they can just go now.
That is one of the odd passages from the decision. That they only get the grace Congress provides them. However, it is Congress that sets policy on what due process entails for illegal aliens.
>By merely accusing you of entering unlawfully, the Government would deprive you of any meaningful opportunity to disprove its allegations."
Just show your birth certificate or naturalization paperwork.
Why carries around their birth certificate? Maybe we should all go to city hall and get extra copies.
The Feds are very much aware of who has overstayed a visa.
I carry around my Real ID compliant driver license, which requires a birth certificate to obtain. Not that there's any possibility I would be mistaken for an illegal alien anyway, and not that it wouldn't be easy to arrange for someone to bring it should I not have it on me.
>"The sheriff, however, does not have independent contracting authority for this purpose," opined Yost.
You'll notice that this is presented as an off-the-cuff remark and not legal analysis - let alone a published opinion - by the AG?
A sheriff's authority varies from state to state but all states will *say* that sheriff's must obey everything the state tells them to do no matter what the actual law says sheriff's must do.
Its very similar to how courts approach talking about jury nullification - they'll just flat out lie to you about it.
Also, I see that this is a district court - and we've seen how it goes for the DC's.
'Weighty liberty interest' is the sort of word salad tells me the person is not a serious thinker and is working backwards from a conclusion - expect this to be overturned.
right next to 'penumbras and emanations'
a new federal court ruling says.
Amazing how deferential you are you to the federal courts, and how openly hostile you are to States rights.
But tell me more about this LiBeRtaRiaNiSm thing you speak of.