No, Tariffs Can't Replace Income Taxes
They are among the worst taxes imaginable—narrow, arbitrary, unstable, and regressive.

After more deadlines and deals, another round of President Donald Trump's tariffs has arrived. With higher prices again needing to be justified—and on the heels of the "Big Beautiful Bill," which didn't exactly balance the budget—protectionists are positioned to once again play the revenue hawk's card. There are multiple problems with this story.
The idea is that tariffs—which some believe function like the consumption taxes that economists generally view favorably—can raise money more efficiently than income taxes.
First, how can tariffs both protect American producers and reliably raise tax revenue? Think about it: Any tariff high enough to keep out lots of foreign products will not be levied on very many. Conversely, any tariff low enough to generate steady revenue would need to let trade continue by skimming off just a small portion in duties, offering only token protectionism.
History shows this tradeoff clearly. For much of the 19th century, when tariffs were the federal government's main source of revenue, rates were set to maximize collections, not to wall off our economy. When tariffs turn protective, revenue falls.
Tariffs also fail the tax efficiency test. It's true that taxes distort behavior, and that America's income-based taxes—especially the corporate tax—are among the most damaging varieties. Economists prefer consumption taxes, which leave income alone until it's spent, sparing savings and investment from double (or triple) taxation.
Leaving aside their protectionist nature, if tariffs did that, it might make sense to think about substituting them for other, worse forms of taxation. But they don't.
Take an actual consumption tax—the value-added-tax—which is applied uniformly to domestic and imported goods, rebated at the border for exports, and structured to avoid double-taxing investment. Tariffs, on the other hand, single out imports, which account for only about 15 percent of U.S. consumption. Different goods from different countries also face different rates. Thus, they are neither broad-based, nor neutral or transparent. They're just an additional tax that tries to push buyers toward less-preferred products.
Worse, tariffs fall heavily on capital inputs like machines and other equipment. More than half of U.S. imports are raw materials, intermediate goods, or capital equipment—things we need to build other things. As the American Enterprise Institute's Kyle Pomerleau notes, this makes tariffs more, not less, distortive than our current capital income taxes.
The latter allow firms to deduct investments in machinery and equipment, lowering the effective tax rate from what's on paper. Tariffs provide no such deduction. That makes investing in U.S. capabilities—precisely what spurs productivity and wages—more expensive. Far from being a relatively tolerable consumption tax, tariffs are an inefficient, arbitrary surcharge on growth.
Tariffs fail another principle of good taxation: stability. A serious tax system is predictable, allowing businesses and households to plan ahead. Tariffs are imposed unilaterally under statutes like Section 301 or even emergency powers. As recent experience shows, they can be, and often are, reversed overnight without any assurance they won't soon reappear. That's not a reliable revenue source or incentive for businesses to proceed with confidence.
Finally, tariffs invite carveouts and favoritism. Politically connected firms routinely secure exemptions, exclusions, or special treatment, drastically narrowing the tax base. Since April's "Liberation Day," exclusions have sheltered goods worth more than $1 trillion while other goods got hammered. A tax code riddled with loopholes secured through Congress is bad enough; a tariff regime where lobbyists compete for carveouts so quickly and effectively is worse.
Let's pretend tariffs could avoid all these problems. Could they cover the cost of income taxes, even just for those making less than $150,000 or $200,000, as suggested by Trump and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick?
In the most recent fiscal year, the federal government collected about $2.4 trillion from the individual income tax. That's 49 percent of federal tax revenue. The Tax Foundation's calculation for 2021 shows that collections from those earning less than $200,000 amount to $737.5 billion annually. There's also $430 billion brought in from the corporate income tax in fiscal year 2024.
Extrapolating from the Treasury Department's duty collection for July, Trump's sweeping new tariffs might bring in as much as $360 billion this year—significantly higher that the pre-Trump era collection of $80 billion. Grandiose plans to do away with most people's income taxes would mean raising tariff rates far higher than even Trump wants, and without all the carveouts. Then, we'd need to hope for the impossible—namely, that the tariffs don't kill off a ton of economic activity.
Tariffs are not a realistic tax base. They're among the worst taxes imaginable—narrow, arbitrary, unstable, and regressive. They tax investment more than consumption. They reward lobbying over efficiency. And the revenue they raise is but a fraction of annual government spending.
Pretending they deliver both protection and revenue is not only dishonest; it risks undermining the very foundations of American prosperity.
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Not too long ago we were against income taxes. Now we're for them.
I figured some retard would misinterpret that article to mean that.
So did I, and his name's 'Sarcasmic'.
I struggle to think of more "I'm a (not/fake) libertarian!" cry than "We need a broad, codified, stable, progressive federal financing scheme!"
Maybe if she'd thrown in a "We needed the money to support a standing military in Ukraine!" or something. Even "Eat the rich!" would be a bit redundant.
Great point. Taxes should be unserious so as to make the revenue unpredictable and unstable. Yeah. *facepalm*
What the fuck? You're not even bothering to read the posts you're trying to troll now.
There comes a time when watching the retard try to hump a doorknob is no longer amusing. He is stuck on "tariff madness" and I put the dipshit on mute weeks ago.
He decided to add Trump is nationalizing all industries today.
3/4 of the federal government expenditures are National Defense, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and interest on the National Debt. And half of National Defense is Corporate Welfare. THAT is what we need your momey for.
I'm perfectly fine with cutting the defense budget. Start by pulling out of NATO and tell the EUrocucks to fund their own defense needs. That will provide a huge savings right off the bat.
Social Security's gap could be closed by raising the income cap, but it's really immaterial as the deficit there will smooth out once most of the Boomers die off.
The delta between revenue from the Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund and outlays from the Center For Medicare and Medicaid Services was about $1.75 trillion in FY24--the same as our national debt. You bitch about defense, but you'd fucking scream if you had to pay the taxes to close that gap.
I'm perfectly fine with cutting the defense budget.
You could eliminate it and there would still be a budget deficit.
it's really immaterial as the deficit there will smooth out once most of the Boomers die off.
Only one problem with that is that Gen X will outnumber Boomers in three years.
Our government does not have a revenue problem. It has a spending problem. For each new dollar collected Congress spends a buck and a quarter. That's the problem. Fixing the deficit is easy in theory. Just freeze the budget for ten or so years. No more new spending. Inflation an economic growth will do the rest.
You could eliminate it and there would still be a budget deficit.
Yes, I know. By about $1 trillion or so, maybe $750 billion if you throw in the DOE's nuke management and the VA. People that like to bring up the defense budget only do so because they think the people they're arguing against consider every penny of defense spending to be sacred. I'm not one of those people.
Only one problem with that is that Gen X will outnumber Boomers in three years.
Gen-X isn't going to be as much of an issue because there aren't nearly as many of them as the Boomers.
Our government does not have a revenue problem. It has a spending problem.
No argument there. As commenters have pointed out on this board for a couple of decades now, you'd have to dig into the entitlements to really ensure that the deficit was kept in check, but these things are considered a right because no one actually has to pay for them. It would almost be worth it to pass a tax just to see the complaints about it in the aftermath, like what happened with property taxes in Colorado after the Gallagher Amendment was eliminated.
Ironically sarc has been against all cuts and audits of welfare programs.
Raising the income tax just delays it for a few years since the same number is used when paying in as paying out.
Never thought id see the day when reason went pro income taxes.
If you had been asked last year during the election if they had it in them, you might have accepted it was in play.
"They are among the worst taxes imaginable"
No. Not even close. Income tax is infinitely worse.
Tariffs are as bad as a sales tax, except they're not on all the products in their category.
I'm tired of being gaslit by DNC idiots here. How can libertarians take back Reason?
Income tax is so much worse. It destroys all privacy, generates a massive bureaucracy of literally millions who are all about tracking everything every one does and enforcing "compliance". If you could eliminate the overhead on income tax alone it would be a massive win for liberty, not to mention the actual confiscation itself.
What destroyed income tax privacy was DOGE. Most commenters here supported that.
You're an idiot
How can libertarians take back Reason?
Don't you see the red flag when you're saying that on a De Rugy article articulating Mises and Rothbard's views?
And what happened to you joining me in my opprobrium to tariffs if Trump made them permanent rather than just a negotiation tactic to reduce foreign tariffs?
Forget it Chinatown, its Jake.
Property and inheritance taxes are way worse than tariffs.
regressive
[Inigo Montoya voice] You keep using that word...
First, how can tariffs both protect American producers and reliably raise tax revenue? Think about it: Any tariff high enough to keep out lots of foreign products will not be levied on very many. Conversely, any tariff low enough to generate steady revenue would need to let trade continue by skimming off just a small portion in duties, offering only token protectionism.
That's what everyone who understand economics has been saying since this nonsense began, only to be attacked an called names.
In the most recent fiscal year, the federal government collected about $2.4 trillion from the individual income tax. That's 49 percent of federal tax revenue. The Tax Foundation's calculation for 2021 shows that collections from those earning less than $200,000 amount to $737.5 billion annually. There's also $430 billion brought in from the corporate income tax in fiscal year 2024.
Extrapolating from the Treasury Department's duty collection for July, Trump's sweeping new tariffs might bring in as much as $360 billion this year—significantly higher that the pre-Trump era collection of $80 billion. Grandiose plans to do away with most people's income taxes would mean raising tariff rates far higher than even Trump wants, and without all the carveouts. Then, we'd need to hope for the impossible—namely, that the tariffs don't kill off a ton of economic activity.
I've tried to explain that several times as well, to no avail.
You can lead a Trumpian to knowledge, but you can't make them learn.
By the pathetic way you're trying to mangle in a obvious troll with copypasted paragraphs you barely read, I'd say you're the one who might need some book-learnin', Sarkles.
I would say that you know that all this is true but won't admit it.
Without looking under the grey box I know that he's telling me I'm wrong about something that he knows is right. He thinks he's a master gaslighter, when he's nothing more than a wisp of smoke without a fire.
Amusing as you've literally been wrong on the topic daily here for at least 10 years.
You dont even realize the only positive responses you have here are with other members of your leftist tribe. It has been quite funny. Half of them admit to being liberals.
You keep stating you understand economics but have been wrong every time. Why?
For much of the 19th century, when tariffs were the federal government's main source of revenue, rates were set to maximize collections, not to wall off our economy.
This is complete ahistorical bullshit. Tariffs have ALWAYS been protectionist. We nearly had a civil war over them at one point. Republicans in particular supported tariffs all the way up until the early 20th century SPECIFICALLY because they didn't want to implement a federal income tax. After Democrats got the 16th Amendment passed, their priorities shifted to lowering tariffs while fighting to keep income tax rates low.
Trump isn't doing anything other than appealing to late 19th century Republicanism, even if it's more reflective of Gephardt Democrat policy in practice.
Tariffs have ALWAYS been protectionist.
That is factually false. Tariffs cannot be for revenue and protectionist at the same time.
We nearly had a civil war over them at one point.
Yes, over the Tariff of Abominations of 1828 that was repealed ten years later because it was economically destructive.
Republicans in particular supported tariffs all the way up until the early 20th century SPECIFICALLY because they didn't want to implement a federal income tax.
Yeah, and they kept them low enough so that they would generate revenue. As I've said hundreds of times, the purpose of protective tariffs is to raise prices, not revenue. Revenue tariffs must be low enough to not be protectionist. They can't be both.
Edit: Unless you mean McKinley's protectionist tariffs in 1890. They were so popular that in a mere two years the Democrats held the House, Senate, and presidency.
As far as the 16A goes, that was in preparation for Prohibition. They were planning ahead for the lost revenue from alcohol taxes.
Trump isn't doing anything other than appealing to late 19th century Republicanism
Trump is appealing to historical and economic ignorance.
"As far as the 16A goes, that was in preparation for Prohibition. They were planning ahead for the lost revenue from alcohol taxes."
This may very well be the stupidest thing I've read today.
Just wait until he polishes off his next 40.
Wonder if he knows he’s paying excise tax on all that booze?
His liver knows his addiction is quite taxing.
That is factually false. Tariffs cannot be for revenue and protectionist at the same time.
No, it's factually correct. It's literally how it worked.
Yes, over the Tariff of Abominations of 1828 that was repealed ten years later because it was economically destructive.
So destructive that the US grew into an economic powerhouse by the end of the 19th Century with much higher tariffs than we have now.
Yeah, and they kept them low enough so that they would generate revenue.
They were still far higher than they ever were since the end of World War II.
Unless you mean McKinley's protectionist tariffs in 1890. They were so popular that in a mere two years the Democrats held the House, Senate, and presidency.
No. Look up tariff rates from the end of the Civil War to the end of the 19th Century. Those were protectionist too.
As far as the 16A goes, that was in preparation for Prohibition. They were planning ahead for the lost revenue from alcohol taxes.
No, the federal income tax passed because that was specifically a left-wing policy over anger about guys like Carnegie and Rockefeller paying no income tax. It didn't have anything to do with Prohibition.
Trump is appealing to historical and economic ignorance.
Claiming that tariffs can't be both protectionist and revenue-generating is the stupidest comment I've seen on the subject. It bears no resemblance to actual historical fact.
No, it's factually correct. It's literally how it worked.
No dude. When tariffs were raised by protectionists, revenue fell.
So destructive that the US grew into an economic powerhouse by the end of the 19th Century with much higher tariffs than we have now.
Did you miss the part where those tariffs that almost started a war were repealed, or that McKinley's tariffs resulted in Republicans being swept out?
No. Look up tariff rates from the end of the Civil War to the end of the 19th Century. Those were protectionist too.
I have. When tariffs got above 20% the economy sank and people reacted. We because an economic powerhouse in spite of, not because of, tariffs.
No, the federal income tax passed because that was specifically a left-wing policy over anger about guys like Carnegie and Rockefeller paying no income tax. It didn't have anything to do with Prohibition.
Sure. And making gays a protected class had nothing to do with eventually letting them get married.
It bears no resemblance to actual historical fact.
Except that it does. When tariffs get high enough to be protectionist, as in high enough that people don't buy the protected items, revenue went down.
Claiming that tariffs can't be both protectionist and revenue-generating is the stupidest comment I've seen on the subject.
Dude, think about it.
How do protectionist tariffs protect? By raising prices so much that people don't buy the tariffed product and instead buy domestic. For tariffs to be protectionist they must be so high that they generate little revenue. Tariffs that bring in lots of revenue are doing a terrible job at protectionism because people are buying imports instead of buying domestic.
How do revenue tariffs bring in revenue? By being low enough that people keep on buying the stuff. They must necessarily not be protectionist because the whole point is for people to pay them.
You're not an idiot dude. You can see the logic there.
No dude. When tariffs were raised by protectionists, revenue fell.
In what years?
I have. When tariffs got above 20% the economy sank and people reacted. We because an economic powerhouse in spite of, not because of, tariffs.
The average tariff rate was above 20% from the Civil War all the way up until the income tax was passed.
Except that it does. When tariffs get high enough to be protectionist, as in high enough that people don't buy the protected items, revenue went down.
"High enough so that people don't buy the items" is not the definition of a protectionist versus non-protectionist rate. Again, the tariffs served dual purposes--to both protect American industry and to raise revenue. Smoot-Hawley and the Tariff of Abominations were controversial only insomuch that they were so far above the average rate for the periods that they were passed. They weren't considered all that controversial from 1865-1900.
"High enough so that people don't buy the items" is not the definition of a protectionist versus non-protectionist rate.
Then how do you define protectionist tariff? How does a protectionist tariff protect domestic industry if not by raising prices so high that people buy domestic instead?
You know he won't retain the actual facts right?
"Republicans in particular supported tariffs all the way up until the early 20th century SPECIFICALLY because they didn't want to implement a federal income tax. "
Liar. The sponsor of the 16th Amendment was Sen. Nelson Aldrich, a Republican. The Senate was 60-32 Republican and the Amendment was approved unanimously. The House of Representatives was 219-172 Republican and the vote to approve was 318 to 14. President Taft supported it and it was ratified before he left office.
Aldrich sponsored the income tax because he was trying to keep the corporate tax bill from passing, you neocon piece of shit. Income taxes had become wildly popular among Americans at the time because of complaints about robber baron wealth. Prior to that, Aldrich had resisted passing income taxes, which I notice your prissy little retort omitted.
Don't act like you know something, bitch.
Original income tax hit such a small minority of earners, so was celebrated.
This is just funny now.
Cut govt spending. End the socialism. End income taxes.
Release the Epstein files !
I want prosecutions. Those can come out after the trials.
Income tax is far, far worse.
The author is not promoting the income tax.
It's true that taxes distort behavior, and that America's income-based taxes—especially the corporate tax—are among the most damaging varieties.
I think it's fair to say that she thinks income taxes are not great.
Rather she explains why tariffs are worse. And I think she makes a good case.
Tariffs cannot be for revenue and be protectionist at the same time because those are mutually exclusive goals. They are not a consumption tax because they apply to only 15% of goods, and unevenly at that. Tariffs increase the price of the means of production since much of the material is imported, resulting in less production. Tariffs are unstable and unpredictable because they come and go at the whim of whomever controls the executive. Tariffs invite favoritism and divert money from production to seeking political favors. Finally tariffs would have to bring in ten times the revenue that they currently bring in order to replace the income tax, and that's a pipe dream.
So yeah, the income tax is terrible. But tariffs are double-plus more terrible.
Rather she explains why tariffs are worse. And I think she makes a good case.
You are only here because Reason plays into your confirmation bias.
Trump and tariffs bad!!!
Do you have a rational counterargument, or just childish insults?
That's a rhetorical question by the way.
There are plenty above your post. And we have 8 months of CPI and PPI data for this year. We have the evidence from tariffs under trumps first term.
Meanwhile you keep demanding much higher income taxes. Why?
You dont even pretend to be libertarian. Where consumption taxes have always been preferable. Especially selective ones as seen this year.
You rely on keyenesian economists while being too dumb to realize you are. Constantly mistaking reality and having failed predictions.
Even when we give you evidence you publicly state you won't read it because you prefer ignorance like a good leftist.
Vero tries to imitate a libertarian, but her entire case is couched in adjectives, not comparisons. Ten dolla sez she has never read Taussig or Smith but is long on Marx and Bellamy. A 10% revenue tariff has protection built in because shipping in those days added another 10% to export costs. Red Republicans demanded huge tariff increases largely to kill off Comancheria tribes and muscle in on their domains--which is exactly what Billy Sherman did after burning Atlanta. Low tariffs built America. Protectionism and commie capitation looting created genocidal nationalsocialist imperialism. Facts are not always pretty things.
https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2022/09/19/kaiser-wilhelm-teddy-roosevelt/
I get it nobody accuses Veronique of being able to even spell libertarian but this is clearly a poor landing spot for a pro-income-tax stance ... maybe back to NRO?
Oh look, another retard with Velcro on his shoes who deliberately misinterprets "It's true that taxes distort behavior, and that America's income-based taxes—especially the corporate tax—are among the most damaging varieties" as praise for the income tax.
The corporate income tax was created by President Taft and enacted by a Republican Congress.
Yep, then slapped down in Pollock v US. But looters regrouped, added language begging armed goons to kick in the doors of INDIVIDUALS, and corporation lawyers SEEN THEIR CHANCE to shift the lampreys onto the very workers mesmerized by visions of communist Altruria, sugar-plums, turkey & gravy at someone else's expense. After the Soviet Union enacted Marx and Christian Socialist Germany wrote Edward Bellamy's Alturia and "Equality" tales into law, fact became glaringly obvious. To this day Vero's allies swear Hitler and Stalin "weren't really" socialist. They scour thesauri for sticky-sweet adjectives with which to doll up the door-splintering, gunfire and asset foreiture libels.
ya bro I'm a retard.
If you think that her article was pro-income-tax, then yes. You are retarded. On the same level as TJ.
Did she argue against the BBB because of the 2017 income tax extension? Yes or no?
Do either of you even realize consumption taxes have been discussed in libertarian circles for a century? Yes or no?
Lol at your criticism of tariffs due to your intentional misunderstanding while you have almost no complaints, and even wanted them to, on income taxes raising.
You and her both used expiring tax cuts to rail against BBB retard.
“They are among the worst taxes imaginable.”
They are so terrible you even mentioned how they were the primary source of income for the federal
Government for the better part of the first half of the country’s existence. That makes the claim seem more than a little hyperbolic.
I’d like to see your list of taxes that are worse than tariffs.
I agree that they can’t completely replace income taxes, but that could be more of a spending issue than a revenue issue.
First, a consumption tax is just as susceptible to special treatment as a tariff. In my state, alcohol, tobacco, and prepared foods all have additional tax. Second, the tax rebate on capital investments is corporate welfare, insulating business owners from the potential risks of their investments. Just because you like how it distorts the market, does not make it less subversive. I agree completely that tariffs raise less money. The idea of the government making less money makes me happy. One thing that doesn't get mentioned a lot is the huge subsidies that foreign governments pour into products for export, artificially lowering prices for everybody. Tariffs are one way for our government to fight back against this kind of economic warfare. Used in this way, far from being protective, a tariff can restore the natural balance of domestic markets.
When you tax something, you discourage more of it. Hence, sin taxes.
We shouldn't discourage work and investment as we do now, we should discourage consumption and imports.
"huge subsidies that foreign governments pour into products for export, artificially lowering prices for everybody. Tariffs are one way for our government to fight back against this kind of economic warfare."
Fight back? The economic warfare is against their own people. We should be saying "thank you" to countries that are subsidizing the United States!
American loggers do not appreciate selling products at subsidized Canadian prices. Its true that Canada's socialist government is dumping free stuff on us, but we're not Canadians and we deserve protection from their shenanigans. We could invade Canada and force free-market policy on them, or we can respond in kind, economically, with tariffs.
American loggers do not appreciate selling products at subsidized Canadian prices.
Sure they don't. But does that mean that millions of Americans should be forced to pay higher prices to protect a small number of loggers? It's what economists call concentrated benefits and dispersed costs. It's terrible for consumers, but great for politicians.
Tariffs protect those loggers from the ravages of socialism. America protecting its citizens from the machinations of foreign governments is more important than lower prices.
"Look at that country over there! They're selling stuff cheaper than we can produce it! What are we going to do?"
"I know! We can raise taxes! That will protect our people from those low prices!"
"Yeah, great idea! Let's raise taxes! That'll show 'em!"
When foreign countries sell subsidized goods, they are selling for cheaper than they can produce them. The point of this is to corner the market, as we have seen with China's dumping of slave-labor steel on the US over several decades. America doesn't have a steel industry anymore, not because of free-market capitalism, but because of socialist market distortion. Tariffs and, in some cases, even embargos are necessary to protect the free-market economy from foreign state actors. We wouldn't tolerate them taking our property by force, we should not tolerate them taking our markets by force.
We should let those loggers lose their jobs so we can give them welfare right buddy?
Meanwhile you continiento ignore that tariffs are a small effect of trade. The regulatory situation in the US is far more prominent for costs and trade. Yet you're ignorant to that fact.
Your consistent take is raise coats here, import slaves, export labor. Your system is one of collapse.
Only progressives use the expression "regressive."
The communist manifesto plank 2 income tax and prohibition were amended into the constitution by overlapping looter parties wielding roughly 2% spoiler vote. Fabian communists surged to 9% of the popular vote cutting prohibitionist Red Republican hands out of the cash drawer. The corporate income tax they ADDED TO the tariff as its "replacement" was overturned. Likewise the LP-leveraged Roe v Wade decision abolishing Comstock enslavement of females was overturned. Before the individual income decapitation tax replaced the 1894 version, the USA had no federal prohibition laws. Wilson, the racial collectivist who approved the 1912 Opium Convention and signed the Harrison act, wielded the income tax the day Austria--allied with opium-farming Turkey--declared war on opium-farming Serbia, already embattled in prohibition-induced Balkan Wars. Stock markets crashed, closed and remained shut for months. https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2016/09/04/reversing-socialism/
So what is the actual goal here: revenue, protection, or strategic autarky?