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Labor Market

Firing the Data-Collectors

Plus: IVF about-face, Corporation for Public Broadcasting to shut down, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 8.4.2025 9:30 AM

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Jobs numbers make it all come together: "I have been a bit mystified by the economic data over the last few months. With the combination of tariffs, inappropriate fiscal expansion, immigration crackdowns, and persistently elevated long-term interest rates, why had we not been seeing significant drag on job growth?" asks Josh Barro at Very Serious. Recent jobs numbers have made that less mystifying: July growth was terribly weak, while May and June numbers were revised significantly downward, with 258,000 fewer jobs in those months than first reported by the Labor Department.

"As Jason Furman wrote before these jobs numbers came in, it seemed tariffs were already boosting inflation and dampening growth at the margin, albeit not to a sufficient degree to tip the economy into recession," continues Barro. "Now the jobs numbers are also showing significant weakness, even though they're not yet showing the bottom falling out of the labor market. The last remaining bullish economic indicator is the stock market. Like Furman, I can't explain why stocks are doing so well in spite of everything. But the rest of the economic data appears to be aligning with the idea that the economy is weakening."

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Interestingly, something appears to be happening at the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

Trump announces he has directed his team to fire the Commissioner of Labor Statistics.

"Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can't be manipulated for political purposes." pic.twitter.com/MdFMwnNH77

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 1, 2025

Plenty of people are arguing that Trump is behaving like an authoritarian. "This is the kind of thing you would only expect to see in a banana republic," said Janet Yellen, the former chair of the Federal Reserve (and former treasury secretary). But this take seems reasonable to me:

The gap between positive report to negative revision was staggering — though press didn't always cover the revision (surprise!). People should be reassured that there's accountability here. This is a Good thing. Keeping someone on with this record would be Bad.

— J.P. Freire (@JPFreire) August 1, 2025

Without endorsing Trump's conspiratorial speculations that the numbers are being deliberately manipulated to hurt him and favor Democrats, I do think you can make a case that the bureaucrats collecting this data have been doing a poor job.

So how exactly does the BLS currently collect this data?

"The BLS collects jobs data in two separate surveys," reports CNN. "The first is done in part with old-fashioned door knocking. Survey takers go home to home throughout the country asking people for their employment status and their demographic information. A second survey, known as the Current Employment Statistics (CES) survey, is collected from thousands of businesses and government agencies using a variety of methods: via telephone, internet surveys, and—for large corporations—through an automated data transfer." Then the guesswork comes in: "BLS staff prepare the data for a monthly report by estimating America's employment, hours worked and earnings. To extrapolate the data for the entire country, BLS economists add in some educated guesswork, based on seasonal hiring trends. The BLS also smooths out the data with calculations known as seasonal adjustments to avoid huge spikes and dips in data each month."

It's very possible their current data collection practices are insufficient, or their calculations are routinely misunderstanding something about the labor market and how firms are behaving. And revisions are not without precedent, but it's true that recent revisions have been…massive. "Between 1979 and 2003, the average monthly revision was 61,000 jobs," adds CNN. "Since 2003, the average monthly revision is only a slightly more accurate 51,000 jobs." So the May revision of 120,000 jobs and the June revision of 133,000 jobs are comparatively rather substantial.

IVF about-face: "The White House does not plan to require health insurers to provide coverage for in vitro fertilization services, two people with knowledge of internal discussions said, even though the idea was one of President Donald Trump's key campaign pledges," reports The Washington Post, whose chief economics reporter characterizes this as "another apparent L"—loss—"from this admin for the conservative natalists."

This is an example of Trump reneging on a campaign promise—one made in an attempt to curry favor with people who may have been bothered by justices appointed by him overturning Roe v. Wade. But I'm not sure it's such a loss for the conservative natalists, many of whom, if religious and staunchly pro-life, have objections to IVF that stem from the procedure's discarding of embryos.

"The government is going to pay for it, or we're going to get—we'll mandate your insurance company to pay for it, which is going to be great. We're going to do that," Trump said in August of last year. "We want to produce babies in this country, right?" Emphasizing the importance of reversing the birth rate decline is a good thing to my mind, but shifting away from the government is going to pay for it or we need to foist more mandates on insurances companies is probably a good thing if the idea is to turn down the political temperature when it comes to IVF.


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QUICK HITS

  • The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds NPR and PBS, says budget cuts are forcing it to shut down. The majority of staffers will be dismissed by the end of September, with a few staying on until January "to ensure a responsible and orderly closeout of operations," per a statement.
  • "The Federal Reserve resisted pressure from the White House last week and left its policy rate unchanged," writes Bloomberg's editorial board. "It was the right decision. As Chair Jerome Powell acknowledged, the case for a cut was a bit stronger this time than in June—and two of the Fed's policymakers, in rare dissents, voted to lower the rate by a quarter-point. For now, though, patience in relaxing the central bank's 'modestly restrictive' stance still makes sense. As Powell explained, the Fed is grappling with conflicting information and heightened uncertainty. Economic growth has slowed in recent months, the pace of hiring has cooled and data published after the Fed's decision showed that the unemployment rate edged up in July. Even so, inflation continues to run faster than the bank's 2% target (core inflation was 2.8% in the year to June), it's too soon to say how much the administration's new tariffs will push up prices, and last month's jobless rate of 4.2% still squares with policymakers' 'maximum employment' mandate."
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  1. Chumby   2 months ago

    Harry Daughter

    Transgender women are women. Any statement to the contrary erases the identity and dignity of transgender people.

    - Danielle Radcliffe

    Not sure the Sorting Hat assigns a wizard to Shuffle Muff.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      A world of magic believes in magical fantasies. Not sure the issue here.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        It's the magical thinking seeping into the muggle world that is the problem. Poor Daniel cannot separate fact from fiction.

    2. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Wouldn't mind seeing Emma Watson as a Scissorin.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        I wouldn’t mind seeing her wield her magic wand. Maybe in the shower.

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      How many transgender women has he dated?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        How many chick dicks has he sucked?

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          Enough to contract genital hogwarts?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

            Probably Slythphillis.

          2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            I’m sure he has had many magic wands slytherin up his hairy pooper.

      2. BYODB   2 months ago

        It seems fair to ask guys like him how many trans 'women' they have dated or had sex with, and if the number is zero it seems fair to ask 'why is that, bigot'.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

          Agreed. Put their money where their mouth is. Or their mouth where their money is.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Taking lessons from any Social Democrat on biology is like taking lessons on sobriety from Gary Busey.

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        I hear he's doing great.

        https://youtu.be/cgvR5nFOETk?t=5

    5. Ska   2 months ago

      I was going to post a Sirius reply, but thought better of it.

    6. mad.casual   2 months ago

      "This is the kind of thing you would only expect to see in a banana republic,"

      Banana Republic is the new Hugo Boss.

      Show trials over prior hoc ergo propter hoc, fake dossiers, and populist riots? Democracy! Firing, just the plain old kind, not the kind where the guy gets his head cut off or he and his whole family disappear, a labor commissioner/desk pogue? Fascism!

      Anybody else remember when the ACA went into effect and (increased the federal bureaucracy and captured both the healthcare and insurance industries and) Obama explicitly changed the census so that we wouldn't actually be able to tell if more or fewer people wound up on insurance? Good times! Democracy! Not fascist at all!

      1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

        Whaaaa!! Baby cry cry!!

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          Yeah, witty ripostes like that are why Open Society will never give you back your job, Shrike.

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            We need to be honest with ourselves and admit that people like him have to go. All of them. Whether it’s a one way trip on a cargo ship to Somalia/Antarctica/The Phantom Zone, a detention camp, or a landfill, they’ve all got to go.

      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        I remember when the ACA went into effect. It eliminated my tolerably priced Assurant private policy that cost about $247/mo., and my only options were garbage policies for much more money. The available ‘platinum’ plan, which was inferior in nearly every way compared to my mid range Assurant plan was over $300/mo. MORE.

        After everything I’ve seen since 2014, I would rather round up and execute every last democrat before being forced onto universal healthcare.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          I was more noting (maybe poorly) about how "Banana Republic" is becoming the new "Nazi" or "Fascism" incoherent cry.

          Nobody got beheaded. Dude got fired from an appointed position. It's less of an actual administrative position and more of PR position. No show trial was involved. Trump didn't fundamentally change the formula by which the numbers were calculated by edict or anything... just fired a guy because he didn't like the numbers. By this criteria I don't think there's an administration anywhere on Earth that hasn't been a Banana Republic over any given 4-5 yr. period. Every corporation, small business, or even socialist organization going through desk pogues to attain full employment (or the appearance of it) is guilty.

          Unlike Obama who explicitly f*cked with the statistics and said "This isn't about the ACA." while he was otherwise openly lying about passing the ACA.

          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Obama was indeed a notorious liar.

    7. BYODB   2 months ago

      'Erases their identity' doesn't actually mean jack, or shit. Does it erase the identity of people who believe they are Napoleon if we refuse to allow them to invade Russia with French forces? No, no it does not.

      Unclear how it erases their dignity, as they have none to speak of. People with dignity don't flaunt their sexuality to everyone that see's them.

      For example, a guy guy wearing a strap on dildo outside their clothes to go to the corner store to buy some lube. They are showing you their identity, but dignity is nowhere to be found.

      Just to be even handed in this illustration, a frat boy wearing a T-Shirt that says 'Female Body Inspector' doesn't have any dignity to speak of either.

      1. Zeb   2 months ago

        I always hate this idea that dignity is something that people need to have given to them by others. That's not dignity. Dignity is about how you handle the shit life throws at you, not how others treat you
        The identity thing is almost as maddening. If your identity can be destroyed by someone pointing out (accurately) that you are actually male, not female (or whatever it is), then you need a better identity to organize yourself around. Same would apply to a straight dude whose whole identity is based around his penis size, or how many hot chicks he bangs.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          If you get the freedom to call yourself whatever you want, then I get the freedom to call you a retarded asshole. Otherwise, fuck off.

  2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    The only people mystified by the job numbers are those retarded enough to listen to the far left talking heads

    1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      "Plenty of people are arguing that Trump is behaving like an authoritarian. "This is the kind of thing you would only expect to see in a banana republic," said Janet Yellen"

      The Biden people at Labor Statistics lied in every single jobs report during his administration, always quietly revising numbers down later by 50% to as much as 110%; but now that Trump's in office they stopped cooking the books and became impeccably honest.

      1. BYODB   2 months ago

        It would be nice if Trump could control his massive ego and state they are being fired for being terrible at their job instead of claiming they are specifically out to get him.

        I mean, they might be out to get him since there's a long track record of that but observably they have been shit at job numbers for at least two decades if not longer. That should be a good enough reason to shit can most of them.

        1. Joe_dallas   2 months ago

          Putting partisan politics aside, getting good jobs numbers requires good sampling and statistics. The response rates have been decling for quite some time. The procedures to correct / mitigate the statistical sampling problems have made the statistical quality worse not better.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          But that is exactly what Trump did say. He stated how many reports have been wrong under this person dating back to her hire date under Biden.

        3. Zeb   2 months ago

          Yeah, seems like they are continuing to do a bad job in exactly the same way they did under Biden.

  3. Chumby   2 months ago

    The Corporation for Progressive Broadcasting is shutting down. Local coffee shops expect to be inundated with job applications from folks that have masters degrees in BS.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      But they said they didn't need government money!

      1. Square = Circle   2 months ago

        The headlines are trying to make it sound like actual broadcasters are shutting down, but the CPB exists for the sole purpose of distributing federal money to public broadcasters. They don't actually produce anything. So cutting off the federal money means they literally serve no function and have no revenue, and thus it is unsurprising, and in fact not even newsworthy really, that they are shutting down.

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Do they have a board of directors? Shouldn't the correct play here be to dismiss the president and/or CEO for failure to do their jobs? When a for profit companies revenue is down they let go of some staff or cut costs somewhere else. Cut off the government tit and whaaaaa, we have to give up and die.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Given that it is PBS/NPR, think it is a Bored of Directors.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          All screaming in hushed tones.

    3. Ersatz   2 months ago

      BSNBS : Bullshit Studies is not BS
      i thought you GNU better

  4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    In a need for more organ donors, a doctor in the NYT wonders if we need to expand the definition of death, surely leading to less donors.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/08/ny-times-op-ed-expanding-the-definition-of-death-could-mean-more-donor-organs/

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Josef Mengele is smiling from his villa outside Buenos Aries…as he had done during the vax rollout.

      1. Pear Satirical (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 months ago

        I thought he died in the 70s?

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          The nazis put him in suspended animation and hid him in their base on the dark side of the moon.

    2. KAW   2 months ago

      The methodology used by the BLS to produce initial estimates does not work as well when economic circumstances vary dramatically from the norm. Estimates were way off early in Covid days. The uncertainty created by the Trump administration undoubtedly was not accommodated for in the BLS models.

      It's not the models. It's the administration. But that's ok. We'll get beautiful numbers going forward.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        It's not the models.

        Everything else you say is discounted. Forever.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          You have to admit that it takes balls to post that though.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        If the model is consistently wrong, then the model is wrong, not reality. Fuck off and die

      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Not sure what this has to do with organ donation.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          Some had the heart to point out his ignorance.

          1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

            Can't we just live and let liver?

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              You two have some gall.

              1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

                Eye'll be here all week.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

                  That really rectum.

                  1. Pear Satirical (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 months ago

                    Busting a gut here.

            2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

              No, my cousin may die if he can't find a doner apendix

          2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Now he’s screeching his lungs out.

      4. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        As long as they are wrong, but within normal parameters. Where have I heard that before.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Every communist or socialist ever?

        2. Chumby   2 months ago

          Apparently uterine transplants to help mental case men cosplay as women is now a thing:

          https://www.statnews.com/2016/03/07/uterine-transplant-transgender/

          1. BYODB   2 months ago

            Yeah, that's going to end very poorly. You can implant a lot of things into the human body, but expecting those things to work properly is perhaps a bridge too far.

            Plus one wonders where exactly they plan to source those parts from. All the reasons a woman would have that removed are because those parts don't work properly, so the only remaining answer is 'cadavers', not to mention that even if they could have kids (which is super unlikely) those kids are...not actually going to be their own children. The eggs belong to someone else entirely.

            I do think it will be amusing when a white dude is able to give birth to a black baby by having sex with another white dude though.

            Through the looking glass indeed.

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

              From the article the scheme is for the dude to freeze some sperm prior to castration and implant a fertilized donor egg so the resulting freakshow would be both father and mother. I don't think we're talking about ovaries here. But yeah there's no way this can end well.

              1. BYODB   2 months ago

                I didn't get far into reading it because it reads like a horror movie synopsis, so thanks for reading what I couldn't bring myself to go through.

                I suppose this is a brave new world though, where as long as the mentally ill give their 'consent' it's totally fine to carve them up however the surgeon wants.

                Prison is too good for these 'Doctors'. They are literally preying on the mentally ill, and aren't solving any type of medical issue but rather causing them.

                1. Pear Satirical (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 months ago

                  I'm afraid to ask how they plan to get the baby out.

      5. Anomalous   2 months ago

        Back the late 90s, I worked as a contractor at BLS. One month, they had an error in the CPI that had to be revised, which was quite embarassing. The Secretary of Labor came in and had a meeting with the Commissioner, and I'm guessing it wasn't pleasant. But no one got fired for it.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          Now imagine an "error" in every single report for the last four years.

        2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          No one got fired. With government work that goes without saying.

        3. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

          What was worse—2005-2008 elevated CPI or the recent elevated core PCE??

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

            How about you drink some PCE.

      6. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        "Estimates were way off early in Covid days"

        ...and the later Covid days, and all the days after that, and it's funny how all the errors only went in one direction.

        1. NealAppeal   2 months ago

          We're still in early COVID apparently.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

            Long early Covid.

        2. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

          Except they didn’t. Don’t you still believe we had a Biden Recession in 2022?? It never happened but you will never change your beliefs because you are too invested in them.

          1. Pear Satirical (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 months ago

            They fucking changed the definition of recession you idiot!

            1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

              Nope! We didn’t have two consecutive quarters of negative growth!! You were lied to and you became invested in those lies just like under Bush/Cheney!! Lololol!!

              1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                Yes they fucking did, you half-retarded bargain-bin politruk.

                1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

                  There was a revision! Lolololololol!!!

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

                    How hard did your mother drop you on your head as a baby?

                  2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                    Kill yourself.

            2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              The meaning of every word changes constantly to the benefit of democrats and the democrat narrative.

              1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

                “Negative” never changed.

      7. damikesc   2 months ago

        Weren't the numbers DRAMATICALLY off under Biden?

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          Often off by 110%, and that was counting illegals.

    3. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      I don't think you can call it a "donation" when the person is dead. More like "harvest".

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        That illegal alien piece of shit borrowed the mouth of a dead man while riding the NYC subway.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          If an illegal immigrant jerks off on an unconscious girl but is sorry about it and there's no one else around, can anyone really say who is the donor and who is the recipient?

          1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

            "Paging Dr. Chemjeff..."

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

              And his sidekick, Nurse Sarc.

              1. Chumby   2 months ago

                Sarc is best at nursing a beer.

                1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                  Through a beer bong, along with 50 more beers.

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                    And a bottle of Aqua Velva and a couple of shots of hand sanitizer.

    4. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

      "You will fall upon one another like wolves."

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqutYLX2urk

    5. Chumby   2 months ago

      Perhaps a fetus donor program could be started where the fetus would later be aborted. You know, to protect women’s right.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        Maybe that could be backed up by some sort of surrogate program where infertile progressives and trans-women can pay a teenager to get pregnant and have an abortion on their behalf.

        Kind of like buying indulgences.

        1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

          Bessent did that after culling hundred of embryos. #MAGA..Make America Gay Again!!

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

            Yes, we want to make America happy again. You, obviously don't.

  5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Yes the deep state exists.

    National Institutes of Health Director Jay Bhattacharya, meanwhile, is fending off a mutiny by nearly 500 self-identified staff — some perhaps laid off in reduction-in-force plans — based in part on an alleged "list of banned words" in grants recommended for funding, especially those related to diversity, equity and inclusion.

    "This one is really frustrating," Bhattacharya told Just the News. He informed representatives of the "Bethesda Declaration," named after NIH's Maryland home base, at their July 21 meeting that "I ordered there be no banned list" to his staff months ago, but some program officers "took it upon themselves" to create ad hoc, unofficial lists.

    https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/maha-minefield-drug-safety-regulators-trip-over-trump-whisperer-pharma

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Dealing with this mutiny is easy - fire those not complying. Or better, eliminate that entire tax vacuum.

  6. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Speaking of that "terrible jobs report."


    Geiger Capital
    @Geiger_Capital
    Holy. Shit.

    I thought this was a typo…

    In the last 4 months, native-born Americans have gained 1.8 MILLION jobs. Meanwhile, 1.5 Million foreign-born workers (legal and illegal) lost a job.

    A sharp reversal of the last few years.

    https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1951266734171726291

    The horror. Reversing the last 4 years of job gains going to only immigrants.

    More on the sub metrics.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/untold-story-todays-jobs-report-unprecedented-purge-illegal-alien-workers

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Today at Reason bad jobs are due to tariffs. Tomorow because Trump deported all our workers.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Thats what a lot of the sub metrics are showing, losing foreing workers (primarily illegal).

        Weve seen this for a decade in arizona. Jobs that used to go to part time retirees and high schoolers being given to middle age illegals. In the last few months I'm starting to see a return to what was normal 15 years ago.

        It does appear as if BLS was counting illegal employment in their numbers, which is why household survey data has remained so far apart from the employer surveys.

        The other data that is coming out is the reduction of government employees. But I'm sure for most of Reasons non intelligentsia this is a bad thing.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          I was watching some of "Dog Day Afternoon" this weekend. You know what stands out? Pretty much all the blue collar workers shown in the opening credit scenes are white guys.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

            The black guys were all in Attica.

            1. Chumby   2 months ago

              ♪ I bless the rains down in Attica. ♪

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      This is part of what I suspect is causing the smokescreens to go up--the media knows that it's actually Americans getting the jobs, and prices have marginally inched up because Americans get paid more than foreigners (the horror, we don't want actual citizens to have decent-paying jobs!).

      I saw someone on a cuckservative right blog claim that the unemployment to population figures are "cratering," dropping from 60.1% to 59.6% since January. Leaving aside the fact that this stat has been in decline ever since the dotcom bubble popped (and was around 60% for most of Biden's presidency), and no one has been able to make it climb back in any substantive manner since, it certainly makes sense that it's gone down if 1 million illegals had been removed or left in the last six months.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        They dont understand the irony of demanding millions in foreign workers in one breath then complaining about labor force participation rates in the other.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          That's because the cuckservative right is incapable of any kind of complex thought that doesn't end with "Low taxes, forever overseas wars, never culture wars." These people would sell their own children to a human trafficker if it put another $50 a month in their pocket.

  7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "The BLS collects jobs data in two separate surveys," reports CNN. "The first is done in part with old-fashioned door knocking. Survey takers go home to home throughout the country asking people for their employment status and their demographic information. A second survey, known as the Current Employment Statistics (CES) survey, is collected from thousands of businesses and government agencies using a variety of methods: via telephone, internet surveys, and—for large corporations—through an automated data transfer." Then the guesswork comes in: "BLS staff prepare the data for a monthly report by estimating America's employment, hours worked and earnings. To extrapolate the data for the entire country, BLS economists add in some educated guesswork, based on seasonal hiring trends. The BLS also smooths out the data with calculations known as seasonal adjustments to avoid huge spikes and dips in data each month."

    OK, why do any of this?

    Sure, if we want to have some sort of government "policy", and rig various components of the economy (and implement political agenda), it might make sense. What about those "free markets" that used to be on the Reason masthead?

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Why not just use IRS numbers. Every legal job pays income tax. Should not be hard to determine the number of w2 workers each month.

      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 months ago

        It isn't hard to determine the number, but W-2 data is reported quarterly, not monthly. They get monthly data from mandatory surveys they send out to randomly chosen businesses. It has become easier to respond to the monthly surveys through the internet, but they are still really annoying.

        1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

          Do we NEED monthly guesstimated numbers?

          1. BYODB   2 months ago

            Central planners love those reports. It gives them something to justify their market interference.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              ^ Cowperthwaite was on to those folks.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        If you dont owe you dont have to file. Some choose not to file.

        1. Ska   2 months ago

          The employer files quarterly 941s (reporting FICA, Medicare and FIT withholding) and an annual W-3 (summary of W-2s including all individual W-2s); it shouldn't matter if a W-2 recipient files a tax return. The IRS has the records from the employer.

          1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 months ago

            The 941 report requires listing the number of employees employed on the 15th of each month for each of the 3 months the report covers. The IRS has the exact number for all who are legally employed. There is zero need to estimate, but they want to project monthly.

    2. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      This is done to provide valuable economic data to lawmakers, the Fed, businesses, and many others.
      Running a country where the only economic data is from partisan announcements is fascist.

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        Establishment, establishment
        You always know what's best

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        "Valuable economic data" typically doesn't require massive corrections months later, when the decisions made off of the first rack have long been made and implemented.

      3. Uilleam   2 months ago

        The government collecting "mandatory" data to determine how best to manage the economy IS fascism/socialism/communism you jackwang. How's about you mooches get jobs like the rest of us adults.

    3. JFree   2 months ago

      Collecting data from different sources is how you verify the real data over time. The reason that first survey produced crappy jobs data - and why the discrepancy is growing - is because jobs themselves have become insanely politicized. Trump supporters would rather lie about their own employment situation than undermine the narrative that Trump/tariffs will make things better like tomorrow.

      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 months ago

        Yeah, none of that is true. The number is right there on the 941s for each month. It's not something anyone is lying about.

  8. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    An actual lawyer weighs in on the retarded anytime anywhere any inspection narratice being pushed by Sullum and other democrats.

    https://jonathanturley.org/2025/07/31/this-is-bs-plain-and-simple-democrats-sue-to-gain-unlimited-access-to-federal-facilities/

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Meh...He leaves out that the 24 hour notice only applies to Congressional staff, not members of Congress.

      He'd be better focused on the conflict of A1 vs A2 powers. Which he only briefly touches on in the last paragraph, with no examples of past precedent to guide the court or the reader.

    2. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

      When the Hill had Disqus I called Turley “Turdley” in the comments and he banned me.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

        Cite?

  9. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds NPR and PBS, says budget cuts are forcing it to shut down. The majority of staffers will be dismissed by the end of September, with a few staying on until January "to ensure a responsible and orderly closeout of operations," per a statement.'

    I see an opportunity for MSNBC to sell tote bags.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Very kind of "the few" staff to work for free after the funding ends in September.

  10. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    I do find it funny that reason never once mentioned the two surveys or inaccuracies of the BLS statistics when Eric was using those numbers to prop up the Joe Biden economy.

    Don't believe they even mentioned the 800k correction.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      The narrative doesn’t push itself.

    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      And they wouldn't be reported today if Trump didn't immediately fire the BLS commissioner making accusations of fraud to sabotage him.

      Obviously he knows the truth. "The Economy is BOOMING under 'TRUMP' despite a Fed that also plays games" --Trump

      So reminiscent of the Biden administration economic rhetoric.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        It is ok, democrats did it first.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          2nd time he has tried this attack. He must really be mad at himself for listening to the false reports during Biden as the rest of pointed out the divergence.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            I'd just like an explanation. How is is that:

            During the Biden administration, when the jobs numbers were reported then later revised down it was to HELP Biden.

            and

            During the Trump administration, when the jobs numbers were reported then later revised down it was to SABOTAGE Trump.

            1. Chumby   2 months ago

              During the reign of Otto Penn the First, the fake job numbers were lauded where the later downward revisions were buried.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                So it's a problem of the media, not the BLS?

                1. Chumby   2 months ago

                  It is a problem of both.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    Then I'm back to my original question for the BLS.

                    1. Chumby   2 months ago

                      That has been answered several times.

                    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      That has been answered several times.

                      Nope.

                    3. Uilleam   2 months ago

                      Ok white mike

            2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

              "During the Biden administration, when the jobs numbers were reported then later revised down it was to HELP Biden."

              Every single report was wrong, and always in one direction which was always to the benefit of the Biden administration for the entirety of his term. But since Trump came in there were upward revisions too and some with no revisions at all.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                This is incorrect. All updates occur within 3 months. During Biden's term, some were adjusted up and some were adjusted down.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                  I don't recall any being adjusted up during Biden's term.

                  Perhaps my Google-fu isn't great but I also couldn't find any instances where they underestimated it during Biden's term.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    I found a few, but nothing drastic like what just happened.

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Without endorsing Trump's conspiratorial speculations that the numbers are being deliberately manipulated...

      That is like, your opinion a conspiracy man.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        For Mike, reality and facts dont matter. It is bad to note the problems if he can accuse Trump. But he is totally non partisan.

        Of course he ignores many of us were pointing this shit out years ago while he ignored it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        For Mike, dem narratives are all that matter.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Now Liz is Mike too?

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            Possibly White Mike used to simp for and stalk bad Liz.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

              It was so intense I thought he actually might her husband or he was trying to bang her.

              1. Uilleam   2 months ago

                I think he is her husband.

              2. Chumby   2 months ago

                It looked like Mike Laursen wanted bad Liz to strap on a bad dragon and peg him until he hurt so good. I was genuinely worried about her safety regarding his obsession with her. I’m not a huge fan of her politics, but she did nothing that deserved his behavior and where it could potentially lead. Didn’t he move to the state where she lives?

    4. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

      Remember the Biden Recession that never happened? The GDP growth was initially reported as negative but it was revised upward but the right wing echo chamber still reported that we had a recession in 2022.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        That didn't happen. You just constantly make shit up.

  11. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    From no we aren't socialists to yes we are socialists and it is a good thing.

    The Patriot Oasis™
    @ThePatriotOasis
    JUST IN: Pocahontas get's on Morning Joe to praise NYC Mayoral Candidate Zohran Mamdani.

    "You GOT IT Joe! He comes in an talks about how to make NYC affordable for families"

    Democrats are troughing their FULL support behind a communist.
    Video

    https://x.com/ThePatriotOasis/status/1952327878672371764

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      troughing?

      Did they mean "throwing"?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Probably.

      2. Chumby   2 months ago

        The cricket paste will be dispensed in troughs.

  12. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    "It's very possible their current data collection practices are insufficient, or their calculations are routinely misunderstanding something about the labor market . . . "

    Illegals?

  13. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    DOGE the entire Department of Labor.
    If businesses need that data, they can collect and pay for it themselves.
    If democrats need that data to destroy America, they can collect and pay for it themselves.

    1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      ¡Afuera!

    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      First end the fed because they are the ones that need the numbers.

    3. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      You are not using the word "DOGE" correctly. It has nothing to do with privatizing data collection. To DOGE something is to destroy it incompetently for political reasons.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        DOGE means to be a democrat?

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        So "Democrats are DOGEing the United States?"

        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

          Lol

      3. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        "destroy it incompetently"

        Which one was done incompetently?

      4. Zeb   2 months ago

        Everything done by government is political. Stop pretending it's new or special.

      5. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

        And here I thought it was the chief magistrate of Venice during the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, Dr. Retard.

  14. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    Still waiting for a real journalist to compare the economic data just before the election, when Powell cut rates to help Biden, to the data now, when he refuses to cute rates because it might help Trump.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      What is not mentioned by Liz was Powell was using positive employment data prior to remaining firm on not having cuts.

      The neutral rate for the fed is supposed to be 3%. Powell choosing not to cut is political.

  15. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    "The first is done in part with old-fashioned door knocking. Survey takers go home to home throughout the country asking people for their employment status and their demographic information."

    1. Way to expensive in terms of labor, and way to inaccurate to use self-reporting.
    2. There is no need to know concerning the demographic data.

  16. Randy Sax   2 months ago

    In March, PBS CEO Paula Kerger and NPR President and CEO Katherine Maher defended their organizations from accusations of bias in testimony before a House subcommittee.

    1. All media is biased.
    2. Bias or not, there is no reason why you should get taxpayer money and not other media outlets.

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      Maybe there once was a good argument for public broadcasting. But if there was, it is gone now and has been since broadcast TV and radio stopped being the primary media source for pretty much everyone. There is no shortage of free educational and independent media today.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

        It had its time and place when most of the country only had three channels. Now, with the plethora of channels and streaming, public television has been outdone, outclassed, and has become outdated. The original idea behind it was to provide programming that the three networks didn’t: cooking shows, educational programming, etc. All of these now have several channels and streaming options.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          Exactly. And YouTube has better educational content than PBS ever did.

  17. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    Taxes slow economic growth. Unless they're Trump taxes.

    Businesses act cautiously under uncertainty. Unless the uncertainty is caused by Trump.

    And (glancing at campaign poster with a picture of Trump saying "I was always for IVF. Right from the beginning, as soon as we heard about it") Trump was always against IVF.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      ""Taxes slow economic growth.""

      IIRC, raising taxes is part of your debt reduction plan.

      1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

        Because Government Almighty knows that there's some kind of rigid, frigid law of physics and-or psychics, that shit is simply FORBIDDEN to SHRINK the size of Government Almighty, to obtain debt reduction? Is THAT the "mind set" of sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturds around here?

      2. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

        Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes and slashing defense spending and Obama got the deficit/GDP ratio to 3% by doing the same. Trump cut taxes and increased the deficit ratio for the same GDP growth as Obama.

    2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      For once, I agree with Trump (butt only after Shit changed Shit's so-called "Mind" about IVF mandated coverage). Less mandated insurance coverage all around, for those of us who do SNOT want to PAY for gold-bricked coverage!!!

      If I do NOT want to pay for (or get) aromatherapy, Scientology therapy, addiction therapy, space alien abduction therapy, sex change therapy, species change therapy, enrich-my-uncle-the- hypnotist therapy, past-lives regression therapy, sex addiction therapy, love-your-Government -Almighty relationship therapy, therapy-therapy, and on and on... If I want to OPT OUT of all this bull-crap, to save me some money... WHERE does that leave me and my freedom?

      Yes I know, I am dreaming while screaming...

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

        Whatever. Why don’t you just preemptively declare defeat and make like a watercolor and run.

        1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

          I am SNOT into allying myself with Government Almighty, in odor to RUN Your PervFected so-called "Life"! Now get a REAL life, and You and Your Fellow PervFected (Mind-Infected, Neglected) Trump Worshitters STOP trying to run MY life, and that of everyone else!

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

            Just admit preemptive defeat and bugger off.

            1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

              Infantile name-calling only, snot addressing the issues... Twat else would Ye EXPECT from a brain-damaged Trump Worshitter?

              A Trump Worshitter, at that, who seems to AGREE that Government Almighty should MANDATE insurance coverage for... aromatherapy, Scientology therapy, addiction therapy, space alien abduction therapy, sex change therapy, species change therapy, enrich-my-uncle-the- hypnotist therapy, past-lives regression therapy, sex addiction therapy, love-your-Government -Almighty relationship therapy, therapy-therapy, and on and on...

              NO RESPECT HERE from Trump Worshitters for plain and simple old INDIVIDUAL FREEDOMS!!!

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

                Just admit you're being defeated and fuck off.

                1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

                  OK, I (sarcasmically twat least) agree with the Trump Worshitters that Government Almighty should MANDATE insurance coverage for... aromatherapy, Scientology therapy, addiction therapy, space alien abduction therapy, sex change therapy, species change therapy, enrich-my-uncle-the- hypnotist therapy, past-lives regression therapy, sex addiction therapy, love-your-Government -Almighty relationship therapy, therapy-therapy, and on and on...

                  Ya a HAPPY Trumpy-Humpy-Harpy now?!?!?

  18. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    Firing the non-partisan head of the data-collector because the president does not like the data is fascist and authoritarian.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      The data has been wrong for years doc retard. She was incompetent. See your statement above.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Yes, to marxists, anyone who doesn't let them do whatever they want is fascist.

      1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

        So then You finally AGREE that Dear Supreme Orange Leader (and PervFected Bleeder of the peons) IS actually, factually Marxist?

        'Cause shit is sorely clear to us who have eyes, and are willing to use them to SEE, that Dear Orange Leader says exactly twat Ye said SOOO well! "...to marxists, anyone who doesn't let them do whatever they want is fascist."

        Fascists say that Government Almighty, with a heavy hand, should tell "free" markets twat to do!

        https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/31/trump-announces-trade-deal-with-south-korea-setting-tariffs-at-15percent.html Trump announces trade deal with South Korea, setting tariffs at 15% …
        Trump also said in a post on social media platform Truth Social that South Korea will “will give to the United States $350 Billion Dollars for Investments owned and controlled by the United States, and selected by myself, as President.”
        Trump is now a One-Man Cummander In Chief of the USA economy, and a YUUUUGE part of the world’s economy!!! Thanks for NOTHING for putting this asshole in orifice, ye STUPID “Team R” Tribalist voters!

      2. Dillinger   2 months ago

        exactly like most 3 year-olds. all is right.

    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Meh, fired bureaucrat gets replaced with new bureaucrat.

      The statistics are meaningless one way or another. The American people will see through the bullshit* numbers and access the economy based on their own purchases, or job searches.

      *I think all BLS stats are basically bullshit. Maybe some value to be gleamed but overall are meaningless to the American public.

      1. Lester75   2 months ago

        Trump has not shown himself capable of appointing competent non-partisan bureaucrats to replace incompetent bureaucrats. I expect the same incompetency with the addition of an attempt to skew statistics to favor Trump. And the democrats did it first.

  19. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/illegal-migrant-with-dui-rap-sheet-facing-vehicular-homicide-charges-after-head-on-crash-kills-mom-daughter/ar-AA1JN5GM

    Illegal migrant with DUI rap sheet facing vehicular homicide charges after head-on crash kills mom, daughter

    The Ocean County Prosecutor’s Office said 43-year-old Raul Luna-Perez of Mexico was arrested and charged with two counts of vehicular homicide and assault by auto in connection with a July 26 motor vehicle crash, and now has a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) lodged against him.

    In a news release, ICE said that this was not Luna-Perez’s first run-in with the law.

    He was arrested twice on charges of DUI in March and April of this year, and in June 2023 he was arrested for simple domestic violence.

    ICE lodged a detainer against Luna-Perez on Monday, and has initiated removal proceedings while Luna-Perez remains in custody.

    Luna-Perez entered the U.S. illegally on an unknown date, according to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

    ICE blamed New Jersey Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy's sanctuary policies for allowing Luna-Perez to be released into American communities.

    "Governor Murphy and his sanctuary policies released this serial criminal into New Jersey communities," Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said. "Now, this innocent family is shattered by their failed leadership.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Wonder if he will still get to vote Blue after his incarceration then deportation.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Hope he gets 0 bail and infinite bites at the due process apple.

  20. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Another media sob story...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-s-crackdown-leaves-la-s-undocumented-migrants-on-brink-of-homelessness/ar-AA1JNxWp

    When her husband was arrested in an immigration raid near Los Angeles last month, Martha was abruptly separated from the father of her two daughters. But she also lost the salary that allowed her to keep a roof over their heads.

    "He's the pillar of the family... he was the only one working," said the undocumented woman, using a pseudonym for fear of reprisals.

    "He's no longer here to help us, to support me and my daughters."

    Los Angeles, where one-third of residents are immigrants -- and several hundred thousand people are undocumented -- has been destabilized by intensifying Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) raids under the Trump administration.

    Local Democratic Party leaders are trying to establish financial aid for affected families.

    Los Angeles County is planning a dedicated fund to tackle the problem, and city officials will also launch a fund using philanthropic donations rather than taxpayer money.

    Some families should receive "a couple hundred" dollars, Mayor Karen Bass said last month.

    She called for a "moratorium on evictions" similar to one introduced during the early days of the Covid-19 pandemic.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      "...and several hundred thousand people are undocumented..."

      That's spelled "illegal"; helps to clarify matters.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      They could have an IllegalAid concert and then give all the money to NGOs abd Newsome. That should help.

    3. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      ""and city officials will also launch a fund using philanthropic donations rather than taxpayer money.""

      Will it be like FireAid?

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        If you newsom people involved, you might find out to where the donations will be redirected.

    4. mad.casual   2 months ago

      She called for a "moratorium on evictions" similar to one introduced during the early days of the Covid-19 pandemic.

      Some Reason/Retard-brand "BOAF SIDEZ!" here.

      "Everyone will be locked down." - OK, nobody can leave so nobody can earn an income. Supply chains locked down. Still isn't fair to landlords but, pandemic, people roaming the streets... I could conceive of circumstances where evictions would cost more money than they would save; even if those circumstances or conditions haven't been met and aren't very likely. "We're deporting all illegal immigrants." OTOH; get a job. Same as if some trailer park mom-of-4's husband got picked up for dealing meth. I think meth should be legal too, but if your only source of income is illegal *and* you put 4 kids on it, that's all on you and other people eating the bill is the main part of the problem. I'd say "Sorry about your luck." but luck has fuck all to do with it.

  21. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    JD Vance was wrong...

    "I actually thought that one of the lessons they might take is, ‘We're going to be less crazy,’" he continued. "The lesson they have apparently taken is, ‘We're going to attack people as Nazis for thinking Sydney Sweeney is beautiful.’ Great strategy, guys. That's how you're going to win the midterms. Especially young American men."

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      I notice that the same people chimping out about Sweeney flaunting her body for AE didn't seem to have an issue with her portraying slutty chicks and taking her tits out on "Euphoria" or "The Voyeurs." This must be the Al Goldstein paradigm on showing hot white women in media, that it's only allowed if they can be portrayed as cum dumpsters.

      Sweeney is damn well aware that she's getting roles because she's a conventionally attractive woman who doesn't mind showing her boobs on screen. What's notable is that the usual suspects are getting pissed because this particular ad campaign is incentivizing white people to not hate themselves. That's really all it boils down to.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        "What's notable is that the usual suspects are getting pissed because this particular ad campaign is incentivizing white people to not hate themselves."

        Replace her with Beyonce, Halle Berry, or Zendaya and have her end the add with "my genes are black", keep everything else about genetic traits the same, while wearing black jeans, and it would get universal acclaim from the same crowd with 'yas queens' flying. It really is the most clear signaling that they dont just hate you for your politics, they literally hate that you are white

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Saw a video of her with a 9mm at a firing range. Very impressive. And not just the body. The shooting.

  22. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "...The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds NPR and PBS, says budget cuts are forcing it to shut down..."

    Gee, a Monday morning with good news!

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

      Isn’t this like a libertarian wet dream?

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        The dream might start there, but the nocturnal emissions don't happen until the part of the dream where the IRS is eliminated or the central bank is shut down.

  23. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    MAGAs are exactly like the hijackers of Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_961. Stupid, illinformed, unable to see how wrong they are, and willing to kill everyone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s1Z7cfGeVM

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      How to win friends and influence people!

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      TDS-addled lying piles of slimy lefty shit are exactly like slimy piles of shit.
      Fuck off and die, asswipe.

    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Lol. God the retardation grows.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Woof, the projection in your comment can be seen from Pluto. Tell us some more about how you want white people to be exterminated.

    5. Chumby   2 months ago

      Don’t ever get an Akita.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        Tony stopped hanging out with judgmental dog breeds decades ago.

    6. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 months ago

      If only you could be more retarded, Molly, if only.

    7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Not everyone, just you.

      Kill yourself (and save us the trouble).

  24. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    So at least someone in Gaza is actually starving...

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2025/08/03/hamas-releases-gruesome-propaganda-video-of-starving-israeli-hostage-digging-his-own-grave-n2661329

    In a chilling and grotesque act of psychological warfare, Hamas released a disturbing video showing Israeli hostage Evyatar David—visibly emaciated and barely able to stand—being forced to dig what appears to be his own grave in a tunnel beneath Gaza. The 24-year-old hostage is seen crossing off days on a calendar, holding a nearly empty can of beans, and stating he hasn’t eaten in days. “This can is for two days… so that I don’t die,” he says. “This is the grave I think I’m going to be buried in. Time is running out.”

    The nearly five-minute video, released Friday, is part of a calculated propaganda campaign by Hamas meant to terrorize the Israeli public and pressure the Netanyahu government into making concessions. It comes amid stalled negotiations between Israel and the Iranian-backed terror groups Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, who continue to hold Israeli civilians hostage while making outrageous demands.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      I wonder... Will this actual case make Sarcasmic reassess his opinions or will he double down on the Jew hate just to "spite MAGA"?

      1. Chupacabra   2 months ago

        He'll believe whatever Rachel Maddow tells him.

  25. damikesc   2 months ago

    Weird how Hamas releasing propaganda videos of them torturing Israeli hostages does not seem to impact the media or Democrats in any way.

    Jewish friends, remember --- THEY HATE YOU.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      NYT or it didn't happen bro. Just ask Liz & Dave Smith.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        The amount of non-Hamas agitprop Smith is deliberately having to ignore must be exhausting some times.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          Svetlana, the polar bear will not drink the vodka.

  26. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Poor Mike and Molly.

    Nick Sortor
    @nicksortor
    HUGE NEWS: A federal judge has BLOCKED a 16 Democrat states’ effort to FORCE President Trump to release funding for “diversity research”

    Hundreds of MILLIONS have just been saved for taxpayers!

    And Big Leticia James loses again

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Those states can fund that garbage themselves.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        How can they stay competitive if they only get to ruin their own economies and not the rest of the states too?

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          The goal is to pull the rainbow cult temple down on everyone.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      “diversity research”

      Hey, how's someone's drunken nephew supposed to support himself?

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      what is the fuck is 'diversity research' anyway

  27. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "Trust the experts..." and also, ignore anything you might be tempted to infer from the names of the accused.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/scott-mcclallen/2025/08/02/she-was-hired-to-stop-food-stamp-fraud-she-helped-steal-36-million-instead-n2661308

    U.S. Department of Agriculture employee Arlasa Davis had one job: stop food stamp fraud. Instead, she allegedly accepted bribes and caused $36 million of fraud over three years by sharing government data.

    The Department of Justice charged six people for stealing over $66 million in food stamps from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program in late May.

    Every year, the federal government gives billions of dollars to poor Americans who spend that money at over 250,000 licensed retailers ranging from grocery stores to bodegas.

    The SNAP program uses federal tax dollars to help low-income households purchase food using Electronic Benefit Transfer cards. The federal government licenses stores to use EBT terminals to process EBT funds from the bank account to the store’s account.

    The alleged criminal ring – Michael Kehoe, Mohamad Nawafleh, Omar Alrawashdeh, Gamal Obaid, Emad Alrawashdeh, and Arlasa Davis – are charged with conspiracy to steal government funds and to misappropriate USDA benefits.

    In 2019, Kehoe supplied 160 unauthorized EBT terminals to smoke shops and other ineligible stores across the New York area to illegally process more than $30 million in EBT transactions.

    The crime ring submitted about 200 fraudulent USDA applications, misappropriating USDA license numbers and, in some cases, doctoring application documents, to obtain EBT terminals for unauthorized stores.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      "The Department of Justice charged six people for stealing over $66 million in food stamps"

      Yes but they're doing it for partisan reasons and also iNcOmpEtAnTLy so it's wrong.

    2. BYODB   2 months ago

      The picture says a thousand words.

      Of course, I had to look elsewhere to find a picture of her. I was not shocked.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        The author's picture? Yikes... good piece otherwise.

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          No, the criminal in the story.

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      ah, 66million is nothing. you shouldnt care about this. We can never make sure government spending isnt wasteful

      - every lib ever

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

        It's a cost of doing business!

  28. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Recent jobs numbers have made that less mystifying

    they're fucking lies any adult with a brain know this. when did you stop being an adult with a brain?

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      >>I do think you can make a case that the bureaucrats collecting this data have been doing a poor job.

      this kind of bold statement will get you noticed for sure.

  29. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds NPR and PBS, says budget cuts are forcing it to shut down.

    I'm considering crowdfunding a proper home for King Friday XIII

  30. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>writes Bloomberg's editorial board.

    snort.

  31. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>New York City is a beach town. Here's how the city's lifeguard coordinator spends his days.

    I saw video of Coney Island ... NYC is a trenchtown not a beachtown

  32. JFree   2 months ago

    Like Furman, I can't explain why stocks are doing so well in spite of everything.

    The stock market has ceased being a leading indicator. Most inflows are to index funds where there is no thought as to how/where money is allocated. The money originates from 401k's where those flows will only drop after people lose their jobs.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      >>The stock market has ceased being a leading indicator.

      how convenient for you in this moment.

      1. JFree   2 months ago

        Stock earning declines did not lead the economy even in the 2001 bubble/recession and 2008. Earnings multiples used to decline before earnings themselves - but that also broke this century.

        But hey - you make your own bets.

    2. JFree   2 months ago

      The other reason it's not a leading indicator of the economy now is because the SP500 is more concentrated than it has ever been. The Mag 7 stock comprise 28% of the index v the 7 largest comprising 13% a decade ago. The SP500 itself is essentially only 59 companies. The rest don't matter to the index movement. And concentrated mega cap stocks are being valued by AI bubble standards. AI - the investment/market bubble and the phenomenon itself - are not relevant to tariffs.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Keep spouting bullshit, JFucked; you have a rep for a reason.

  33. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>This is an example of Trump reneging on a campaign promise

    no this is you imposing double standards do you want a Giant Orange Authoritarian Dictator or not?

  34. mad.casual   2 months ago

    "The government is going to pay for it, or we're going to get—we'll mandate your insurance company to pay for it, which is going to be great. We're going to do that," Trump said in August of last year. "We want to produce babies in this country, right?" Emphasizing the importance of reversing the birth rate decline is a good thing to my mind, but shifting away from the government is going to pay for it or we need to foist more mandates on insurances companies is probably a good thing if the idea is to turn down the political temperature when it comes to IVF.

    There are probably more IQ points and genuine reasoning and/or reporting in this one paragraph than in the last 10 yrs. of the rest of the magazine.

    If Liz still turns out to be a lizard underneath, as far as I'm concerned, she can stay.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      Beastmaster as beast is always confusing.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Compared to Welch's impugning Kushner for negotiating peace in the ME with the Saudis, Liz's "Trump reneged on an IVF promise but healthcare mandates juxtaposed against fertility is complicated..." isn't even night and day. Liz wants fertility but doesn't want mandates, got it.

        But Welch... doesn't want private equity? Doesn't want peace negotiations? Both? Back to the days of Hunter Biden getting paid and Ukraine blowing up NS1 and 2? Back to Halliburton, Blackwater, and nation building? Nah, red dust that motherfucker.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          is there any alien Michael Ironside won't take on?

    2. JFree   2 months ago

      So - how many babies are going to be produced in the US when their future parents realize they will be living in the basement and unable to afford housing until they are in their 30's?

      1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        The more important question for you is:

        Why do you find the most acceptable solution to a declining birth rate is to import an army of what are essentially a lower caste of indentured slave workers who dont assimilate?

        Im saying "we probably need more population for the work force" and your answer is "what about getting more slaves who live in their own ghettos?"

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        How many bullshit predictions can JFucked pack into one post?

      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        You know what, maybe if our Enlightened Leaders hadn't imported tens of millions of foreigners over the last generation, the housing supply would be higher and housing prices would be more affordable.

        Turns out when you add tens of millions of people without also adding tens of millions of homes concurrently, prices on housing goes up. Considering you had a front row seat to this in Denver on a micro scale, this should have been fucking obvious.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          Would also help if they didn't keep doing stupid shit like declaring that everyone should have access to a low-rate 30 year mortgage.

      4. NealAppeal   2 months ago

        they will be living in the basement

        Scared they will be angling into your housing market?

  35. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds NPR and PBS, says budget cuts are forcing it to shut down.

    Can't they just dip into some of that USAID money they were getting?

  36. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The majority of staffers will be dismissed by the end of September, with a few staying on until January "to ensure a responsible and orderly closeout of operations..."

    My understanding is that NPR and PBS will continue, so that makes one wonder what those operations are.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      The pencil pushers who were needed to comply with the government regulations that come with government funds?

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Or

      No show jobs paid for by taxpayers to fund democrat operatives?

  37. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    With the combination of tariffs, inappropriate fiscal expansion, immigration crackdowns, and persistently elevated long-term interest rates, why had we not been seeing significant drag on job growth?

    I'm beginning to wonder if maybe no one knows what he or she is talking about.

  38. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The White House does not plan to require health insurers to provide coverage for in vitro fertilization services...

    We don't want freeloaders reproducing, only those who can afford it themselves.

  39. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Inside the Democrats' fight over school vouchers.

    It's like teachers unions did something in the past four or five years to lose standing.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Backstabbed Joe, "the Robust", Biden?

  40. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Because skin color is the most important thing...

    Cincinnati city council President Pro Tem Victoria Parks wrote a Facebook comment saying the victims “begged for that beat down! I am grateful for the whole story.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/its-pretty-disgusting-cincinnati-police-union-head-bashes-victim-shaming-after-mob-attack

    Ken Kober, the president of the Cincinnati Fraternal Order of Police (FOP), slammed elected city leaders over allegations many have made against the victims of a mob attack on July 26.

    After several people were beaten by a mob of largely black people in Cincinnati, city officials, including the vice mayor of the city, have accused the victims of the attack of instigating the violence.

    “I speak to our investigators probably every 12 hours, and there has been absolutely zero evidence so far that has suggested that these victims caused this,” Kober told The Daily Wire on Friday. “I mean, they’ve looked at video evidence, they’ve done interviews, and nothing suggests that these victims were the ones that started this mob attack.”

    Kober attributed the public attacks on the victims to election-year pandering.

    “I think a lot of it is pandering to their constituents, and they do it in the face of what the investigation says. These investigators have met with city officials, explained to them, ‘Here’s the evidence that we have.’ And they just snub their nose at that,” Kober said. “Quite honestly, it’s pretty disgusting.”

  41. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    Trump is FIRING the Federal ?EXPERTS? in charge!!!!

    Reason finds a way to make it sound like a bad thing.
    Flipping over like pancakes to serve their TDS bias.

  42. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics and the entire Labor Department should be terminated with extreme prejudice now. They serve no legitimate Constitutional purpose, never have, and never will. If industry wants labor statistics they will find a way to pay for them and the information will be much more accurate with more modern techniques than the BLS - which, like every other government agency - is almost certainly at least twenty years behind private enterprise in technology and methodology.

    1. JFree   2 months ago

      Many govt statistics including BLS are public goods. The market does not produce public goods. Your notion that 'industry' will produce them - means that everyone else will have no access to meta-things like prices, jobs, wages, etc.

      1. BYODB   2 months ago

        Well, since their data is observably wrong by their own metrics and admission one might rightfully conclude they have no actual reason to exist.

      2. TJJ2000   2 months ago

        LOL... Right... Because Consumer Reports Magazine (one small example) just doesn't exist! /s
        How will anything exist if Gov 'Guns' aren't 'Gunning' down slaves to make it happen. /s

      3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Prices: I purchase everday, by getting quotes from my vendors. There isn't a single government agency that provides those numbers the market does. Commodity prices, you can see through the commodity exchanges. The government reports even if accurate would be too late for anyone to operate. The only people who might need government price reports are accedemics and that's just so they can right another report about that report (goes for all below).

        Jobs: LinkedIn, Ziprecruiter...all the way back to the classified ads. Nope no one needs job listings from government.

        Wages: Again free market. Indeed will tell you the going wages for x position in your area.

        The free market gets data faster and cheaper and more accurate to the general public then any government agency.

      4. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

        it's not possible for private actors to generate valuable information that they can sell! not POSSIBLE!

        1. JFree   2 months ago

          Public goods cannot be sold for any significant price because they are non-excludable and non-rivalrous. You can't prevent someone from getting access for free. If you can do that, then goods are excludable and non-rivalrous. Hence 'club goods' - eg a toll road when there is no traffic so no real scarcity of use and marginal cost of an additional user near zero.

          The only example of a public good that alt-right libertarians understand is defense. Govt can't defend my house but FY and your house. Defense COULD be seen as a club good - eg volunteer firefighter departments in the old days where they were ok letting your house burn if you hadn't paid your 'club' dues. But only libertarians think that all club goods get provided by the 'free market' or without coercion. Because libertarians don't believe in a militia - which is what provided volunteer firefighter services.

          1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

            Wrong. Libertarians DO NOT believe 'club goods' get provided by the 'free market'. They believe 'individual service/goods' gets provided by the 'free market'.

            Collectivist 'armed-theft' is not a beneficial service for anyone but slavers and criminals.

            Please learn the difference between an Aggressive 'Gun' usage to entitle yourself to someone else's labors/goods (for your ?free? at their cost) and Defensive 'Guns' that ensure Aggressive 'Gun' users don't get away with it.

            Your kind is literally turning the halls of justice on their head and insisting the government be criminals for your own ?free? benefit.

          2. Roberta   2 months ago

            There are lots of business surveys for sale. They can be copyrighted, but more importantly, the data in them (which is not copyrightable) is treated as valuable by the purchasers as against their competitors.

  43. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    I don't care whether the Corporation for Public Broadcasting shuts down or not, but the fact that they say that eliminating tax support for their corporation is "forcing" them to shut down proves that they've been lying to the public for decades. Although I enjoy some of their programming, I don't consider it a necessity that justifies funding with my taxes. If some rural folks will have to do without local PBS and NPR broadcasting, why should I care?

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      I don't care whether the Corporation for Public Broadcasting shuts down or not, but the fact that they say that eliminating tax support for their corporation is "forcing" them to shut down proves that they've been lying to the public for decades.

      No it doesn't. All the CPB ever did was distribute federal money. That's it. No money to distribute means no more CPB. It ain't a difficult concept.

      You say you like some of their programming. Ever listen to the end? They often say "Funding for this program was provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by viewers like you."

      Doesn't say the CPB produced it, wrote it, or anything else. Just that it provided funding. Because that's literally all it did.

      1. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

        Thank you for specifying the lies I was talking about. They outright lied and indirectly created false impressions in the general public about how much of the funding came from tax dollars and how much their highly compensated executives skimmed off of the money that passed through their corporation.

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          I don't get your point.

          The CPB was created to fund stations where the population density wasn't high enough for a non-public station to make a profit by selling advertising. That was their mandate. That was back in the 60s when that might have been a legitimate argument. Technology has moved on so it isn't a good argument anymore. So there really is not place for the CPB anymore. They're not lying when they say that many rural stations will go tits up, because there aren't enough doners to fund them. Oh well. And yeah I'm sure that the people distributing the money made sure they were compensated well. But I don't get where you say that they were lying.

        2. Zeb   2 months ago

          I think you are thinking of NPR and PBS, who did deceptively and dishonestly say that most of their funding doesn't come from government, when most does indirectly come from government by way of member stations. The CPB has never been presented, as far as I can recall, as anything other than a government funded corporation whose job was to fund public broadcasting services with money appropriated by the government. But NPR definitely made a lot of only getting 3% or whatever it was directly from the CPB or other federal sources.

  44. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    "Even so, inflation continues to run faster than the bank's 2% target (core inflation was 2.8% in the year to June), it's too soon to say how much the administration's new tariffs will push up prices, and last month's jobless rate of 4.2% still squares with policymakers' 'maximum employment' mandate."

    And there you have it - a neatly stated core problem with the Fed. There are two mandates in their charter that frequently conflict with each other: maximizing employment and stabilizing the value of the currency. The Founders fought their bitterest arguments over the concept of a central bank and nowhere in the resulting Constitution is there mention of such a function. And casting all of that brilliant debate out the window, later generations implemented the worst possible rendition of central banking with the Fed. Coining money does not require a central bank or Federal Reserve Notes of any kind, they are a bad idea, and this should be totally eliminated immediately. The Treasury is quite capable of coining the official currency without all the centralization of power embodied in the Federal Reserve.

  45. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    77 million americans voted for this?

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      the answer is yes

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