The ACLU Says a New York Official Violated the NRA's First Amendment Rights. They Still Can't Sue Her.
A federal court concluded the official was entitled to qualified immunity in a case that united two unlikely allies.

The national debate over qualified immunity—the legal doctrine that can make it difficult to sue government officials for constitutional violations—has largely focused on police misconduct.
But it also broadly applies to state and local government employees. A recent federal court ruling is a reminder of that, uniting two unlikely bedfellows: the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
The legal odyssey stretches back to 2017, when the New York Department of Financial Services (DFS) found that Carry Guard—a self-defense insurance program endorsed by the NRA and underwritten by insurance companies—had violated state insurance law by offering coverage for criminally negligent acts with a firearm that killed or injured another person. Those insurance companies ultimately paid civil penalties.
The 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, which occurred a few months after that probe, subsequently prompted Maria Vullo—then a superintendent at DFS—to weaponize her position to cripple the gun organization's advocacy and hamstring its access to insurance companies and financial institutions, the NRA alleges.
Specifically, the group says Vullo expressed in private meetings with insurance providers that she would selectively apply enforcement actions to those who insisted on doing business with the NRA. She also issued two memos to insurers and banks titled "Guidance on Risk Management Relating to the NRA and Similar Gun Promotion Organizations," in which she encouraged them to "continue evaluating and managing their risks, including reputational risks, that may arise from their dealings with the NRA or similar gun promotion organizations"; to "review any relationships they have with the NRA or similar gun promotion organizations"; and to "take prompt actions to manag[e] these risks and promote public health and safety."
When the gun advocacy group first sued, alleging Vullo had violated its First Amendment rights, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit rejected that assertion. Vullo had not infringed on the NRA's free speech protections, the court said. The group's appeal eventually made it to the Supreme Court—which unanimously ruled in May 2024 that the NRA had, in fact, stated a viable First Amendment claim. "Government officials cannot attempt to coerce private parties in order to punish or suppress views that the government disfavors," wrote Justice Sonia Sotomayor. The NRA, which was represented by the ACLU, "plausibly alleges that respondent Maria Vullo did just that." The ruling sent the case back to the lower court.
In a decision published this month, the 2nd Circuit applied the Supreme Court's guidance, accepting that Vullo allegedly violated the First Amendment. But it still concluded the NRA cannot move forward with its lawsuit, ultimately ruling that Vullo did not have clear enough notice that such actions would run afoul of the Constitution.
"Although the NRA plausibly alleged a First Amendment claim, we conclude that Vullo is entitled to qualified immunity because the First Amendment rights asserted were not clearly established at the time of the challenged conduct," wrote Judge Denny Chin for the 2nd Circuit. "True, the cases cited above clearly established that coercion amounting to censorship and retaliation violate the First Amendment as a general matter, but they did not sufficiently define the contours of that right such that it would have been clear to every reasonable official in 2017 or 2018 that Vullo's conduct with respect to a third party—not a speaker or a speaker's conduit—violated that right."
Core to the decision, and to the doctrine itself, is the idea that government officials can't be held liable in civil court for constitutional violations unless the alleged misconduct has already been outlined in near-exact detail and ruled unconstitutional in a prior court precedent, thereby putting them on notice. It assumes, for one, that state and local employees are reading case law for training, which is dubious. But it also deprives victims of the mere opportunity to ask a jury if damages are merited.
It is possible here that they are not. An alleged participant in one private meeting with Vullo, for instance, denies the conversation took place. There is no way to answer the broader question with confidence, however, if public officials are immune from facing fact finders.
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The NRA, which was represented by the ACLU...
Well that defies just about every narrative out there. That means it couldn't have happened. Ignore this article. It doesn't exist.
The ACLU is very... uneven. Sometimes it’s fanatical about freedom of speech to the point that even I am thinking, whoa, there are levels; sometimes, it’s pure leftist “people we agree with should have free speech”.
Core to the decision, and to the doctrine itself, is the idea that government officials can't be held liable in civil court for constitutional violations unless the alleged misconduct has already been outlined in near-exact detail and ruled unconstitutional in a prior court precedent, thereby putting them on notice.
It allows the ruling judge to exclaim, “But the
Demsother judge did it first!”"Core to the decision, and to the doctrine itself, is the idea that government officials can't be held liable in civil court for constitutional violations unless the alleged misconduct has already been outlined in near-exact detail and ruled unconstitutional in a prior court precedent, thereby putting them on notice. It assumes, for one, that state and local employees are reading case law for training, which is dubious."
This is disgusting legal fiction meant to give protection a one group of defendants far beyond the level of protection anyone else gets.
Even worse for anyone to win it forces a plaintiff to litigate a valid claim the whole way to the appellate court, and win. But not just win, the court has to rule that the act was unconstitutional, which the have the option to just decline to do if they feel like it.. But that plaintiff still loses to QA and gets nothing.
Notably, Jack Smith declined to ask the Supreme Court to overrule as immunity jurisprudence and hold that no one gets immunity, ever.
It's just the 2nd circuit's way of mooting the Supreme court ruling. But one has to expect that a circuit that thinks something wasn't a constitutional violation is, pretty much automatically, going to think that public officials were not on adequate notice that it was a constitutional violation.
Is the
unqualified immunity decision itself appealable?Conservative star Robby Soave's ex-wife breaks her silence on his engagement to gay lover.
Poor Robby, called a conservative. Who knew all this time he was in the GOPe closet!?
Damn she's a pretty lady. But Robby just couldn't resist some Korean dude's hairy ass. Each to their own but forgive me for wondering about Robby's judgement on other issues as well.
Theres no Both Sides to this, to be sure
let's be honest, we all kind of knew he was that way.
Was it the fabulous hair that gave it away?
Due to Robby's prominence in conservative media, the libertarian pundit has received waves of homophobic abuse from right wing trolls since going public with his same-sex relationship.
Lol we all know he wasnt very libertarian if at all
What's the Akita perspective here?
She got the Akita in the divorce.
I guess that does explain the hair;)
Though I am confident that he's not actually getting any 'homophobic abuse' - no offense to Soave but I've rarely seen him mentioned outside the context of Reason and conservatives don't really care about teh gayz anymore.
In fact, I didn't even know he was old enough to be married 😉 let alone that he divorced.
Check the tweet. There's an awful lot of negative and anti-gay comments there. https://x.com/robbysoave/status/1947397449389076828?t=wg8LGtwAqH4R2jnIIXNmLw&s=19
It's funny to call Robby libertarian and even more silly to call him conservative. He's one of the better Reason writers because he occasionally offers gentle pushback against leftist narratives despite showing he is culturally left.
In my formative years, had a roommate that dated a woman whose husband left her to be in gay relationships. She was attractive, engaging, and had a career after she graduated college (believe she was a school teacher). Think she might gotten married just after college. But her self-esteem was in the dumps. The divorce was a couple years prior to the roommate dating her. He stopped dating her because her self-esteem was so low. He could get a lot of women and I think liked the chase; she offered none.
Once did a few covid video dates with a woman that had an ex boyfriend similar. Initially he began asking her to shove sex toys up his ass while he masturbated. She said she went along with it. That eventually turned into him leaving her for other men. She had bad self-esteem to start, but when she shared that story she drooped her head and balled up. She looked broken. It damaged her and that was also some years prior.
I feel bad for Carrie and wish her future happiness. Good that she has folks that care about her and can circle the wagons.
What in the holy fuck? I... I don't know what to say about this. This is the most shocking Reason-related news I think I've ever read. I'm nearly speechless. I nearly had to pick my jaw up off the floor. Good effing lord... Robby is considered conservative?
Jesus H Kee-rist!
Last week, Robby, who turns 37 next month, shocked the Washington D.C. social set when he abruptly announced that he was
Conservative... that must have sent shockwaves through the community.
I truly feel for her. There she was, running inside DC circles, and she finds out her husband is conservative?
Carrie left Washington after her divorce was finalized last year and is now spending time with her family in her home state of Michigan, where she is rebuilding her life from scratch and has opened a consulting business.
Yeah, no shit. There's no way she can continue to live in Washington after such a revelation. Poor girl. Husband outed as a conservative. Can you imagine your entire social circle just drying up like so much puddle-on-Texas-pavement after such a reveal?
It's kinda funny that the ACLU and Reason were totally cool with lawfare by state actors from 2016 to 2020. See everything Sullum wrote then and now. When the Trump DOJ finally indicts Comey will Jacob demand some version of immunity? I have a feeling he's already desperately working on the libertarian case for a soft coup.
That the *ACLU* said that is a non-story. I have more credibility than the ACLU nowadays. Just a bunch of ambulance chasers.
That a *court* says this is the story.
Hey, I've got a solution for all this "qualified immunity" nonsense.
Just repeal Section 1983 entirely, eliminating the ability to file any of these lawsuits in Federal court at all.
You know, the way things worked in this country for almost two centuries, before the Warren Court's 1961 ass-pull.
The Teachers' Unions have entered the chat...
I'm not convinced that Section 1983 lawsuits have, on net, done any good for liberty in the US, or that eliminating qualified immunity would cause them to do much more good.
No. The only thing that will deter government employees from violating the rights of citizens is prison time for the violators. Court judgements paid by the taxpayers have no effect on the behavior of cops and other bureaucrats.
Especially when a condition of that "lack of qualified immunity" is replaced by indemnification.
"Qualified Immunity" is the lie that the government uses to have different rules for the Average Joe versus the Ruling Elites.
You can demonstrate very clear abuse of power and violation of laws without any doubt and some judicial bonehead will repeat the lie and prevents justice and sets precedence for future abuse of power and violation of laws by the Ruling Elites and their enforcers.
These Ruling Elites and their enforcers should actually be held to a higher standard, not a lower standard.
Surely though Vullo will be disbarred or at least have her law license suspended, right?