The Trump Administration Says Its Speech-Based Deportation Policy 'Does Not Exist'
The government’s lawyers also say that supposedly nonexistent policy is perfectly consistent with the First Amendment.

In a case that went to trial in Boston this week, the Trump administration argues that its policy of arresting, detaining, and deporting international students for expressing anti-Israel opinions "does not exist." The government's lawyers also maintain that the supposedly nonexistent policy is perfectly consistent with the First Amendment—a less laughable argument that nevertheless is hard to reconcile with Supreme Court precedent, especially as applied by several lower courts.
President Donald Trump and his underlings, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Department of Homeland Security officials, have made it clear that they are determined to expel students, including legal permanent residents as well as visa holders, who have engaged in protests or other forms of advocacy that the government views as "pro-Hamas" or "anti-Semitic." Rubio says those activities, even when "otherwise lawful," justify removal from the United States because they threaten to undermine U.S. foreign policy interests.
The Trump administration claims it is targeting "aid or support" for "designated terrorist groups" and "unlawful anti-Semitic harassment and violence," neither of which is constitutionally protected. That defense is hard to take seriously, since the government avers that even writing an anti-Israel op-ed piece or peacefully participating in pro-Palestinian protests falls into those categories.
Two academic organizations, the American Association of University Professors and the Middle East Studies Association, are asking U.S. District Judge William Young for a preliminary injunction against the Trump administration's speech-chilling "ideological deportation policy." They say it amounts to blatant viewpoint discrimination, which is presumptively unconstitutional, and government retaliation for speech protected by the First Amendment.
To bolster that argument, the plaintiffs cite Bridges v. Wixon, a 1945 decision in which the Supreme Court held that "freedom of speech and of press is accorded aliens residing in this country." That case involved a longtime legal resident from Australia who was deemed deportable based on the allegation that he had been affiliated with the Communist Party.
"Once an alien lawfully enters and resides in this country, he becomes invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders," Justice Frank Murphy wrote in a concurring opinion. "Such rights include those protected by the First and the Fifth Amendments and by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. None of these provisions acknowledges any distinction between citizens and resident aliens."
The government's lawyers say the plaintiffs are overreading that decision. Just seven years later in Harisiades v. Shaughnessy, they note, the Supreme Court rejected the First Amendment claims of immigrants who were threatened with deportation because they had been members of the Communist Party.
The latter decision, however, was based on a deferential First Amendment test that the justices later repudiated. Notably, that standard applied to all speakers, including U.S. citizens.
"The claim is that, in joining an organization advocating overthrow of government by force and violence, the alien has merely exercised freedoms of speech, press and assembly which [the First] Amendment guarantees to him," Justice Robert H. Jackson wrote for the majority in Harisiades. Not so, Jackson said, citing the Court's 1951 decision in Dennis v. United States, which upheld criminalization of membership in the Communist Party based on a "clear and present danger" exception to the First Amendment.
The Court renounced that test in the 1969 case Brandenburg v. Ohio, holding that even advocacy of criminal conduct is constitutionally protected unless it is both "directed" at inciting "imminent lawless action" and "likely" to do so. When you combine that ruling with the holding in Bridges v. Wixon, the First Amendment argument against the Trump administration's speech-based deportation initiative looks a lot stronger than the government suggests.
Since Brandenburg, the Supreme Court has not definitively resolved the question of whether the First Amendment applies in the context of deportation. But several federal appeals courts have said it does. If so, it is hard to see how the president's crusade against students whose views offend him can pass constitutional muster.
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We have no need for hate filled foreigners to be here.
“Expressing opinions” =/= blocking students from attending class, occupying or damaging school property, harassing Jews, attending terrorist funerals, coordinating messaging campaigns with terrorists as they massacre 1200 people in barbaric fashion
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We have no need for hate filled native-borns to be here. Send then BACK UP their mamas' birth canals!
(Trumpistas can be trusted to determine exactly WHO is "hate filled", by the way. Just TRUST in them!)
(Anyone who opposes Trump policies is "hate filled"... Shit is THAT simple!)
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The title and even the subheading is overt anti-Free Speech bad faith.
If you supported the 1A and agreed with it or the spirit of it, no speech-based deportation policy is what you would expect. If you agreed with the 5A and 1A, a "nonexistent policy is perfectly consistent with the First Amendment" is to be expected.
The supposition is entirely Sullums and it supposes Trump and the administration are guilty and that the need to find them such surpasses evidence as well as the letter and spirit of the law.
Even if such evidence were discovered, shared, or disclosed, Sullum shouldn't touch it as the implication that he would bias or taint it openly displayed. If he were the least bit of an honest journalist with credibility or personal responsibility to his audience, any evidence or objective proof would be the lede owed to a well informed populace, not the morally compromised de facto indictment of others' free speech.
Yup, we got so many hate filled MAGAs there is no more room.
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Houthis imperil free trade, sink one ship, attack another, murdering three merchant sailors in the process:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb8XdQWkMHQ
It's past time to carpet-bomb Yemen.
YOU can't kick me out of your house for what I'm saying!
I got 1A *ENTITLEMENTS* to your house! /s
Problem is ... The 1A doesn't say anything about having an 'inherent' right to the USA. And just as it is with all rights; if the right isn't 'inherent' it isn't a right at all but instead a self-proclaimed *entitlement* to someone else's stuff.
Self-Entitled claims like these is exactly what is F'ing up the USA.
Claimed 'rights' have to reside within the boundaries of what you own or it isn't a right at all but an entitlement that destroys someone else's property rights.
Such rulings shouldn't be that hard to figure out. Far too much activist-BS clouding people's basic sense of reasoning.
Two tier policing:
"Activist Montgomery Toms was arrested on Saturday by eleven police officers in Westminster, London, because he attended an LGBTQ+ demonstration wearing a large board that had the transgender-pride flag, the equal sign, and the words “mental illness.” Within about 30 minutes of his counter-demonstration, a police officer was filmed telling Toms that the sign “is going to antagonize,” “is going to cause friction within this crowd,” and “is going to cause a problem.” Toms retorts, “So, because of them, I have to shut my mouth up?” Rather than remove the sign, Toms walked away, and then the authorities arrested him."
"When LGBTQ+ activists released 6,000 crickets into the audience during a gender-critical conference held by the LGB Alliance in Westminster, the police detained several people but made no arrests; according to “Trans Kids Deserve Better,” the organization that coordinated the entomological chaos, the six activists either fled the scene or were “held by security for a period before being let go.”"
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/displaying-a-trans-critical-sign-gets-a-man-arrested-in-the-u-k/
It's pretty clear that the UK is fucked and a total lost cause at this point. Need to write off all of Europe.
We can still have good relations with Eastern Europe.
When LGBTQ+ activists released 6,000 crickets into the audience during a gender-critical conference held by the LGB Alliance in Westminster
OK, as a non-member of the "community" I need some clarification. This is the Shia LGBTQ+ activists terrorizing or antagonizing the Sunni LGB community, right?
Actually, nevermind, I don't care. The mental disease started with "2 men = 1 man + 1 woman" and intrinsically degenerates into a social victim hierarchy clusterfuck from there.
Jacob, just say you dont think foreigners have to follow the contractual requirements of what they willingly sign up for. They can lie on visa applications, violate visa rules, commit bad acts, etc. Foreigners are better than citizens. We get your view. It is retarded. But be honest about it.
I should also point out Jacob has multiple articles declaring trump responsible for J6 and incitement of the j6 riots.
So he truly believes foreigners who agree to visa conditions are above an elected president who says march peacefully.
Truly an amazing argument Jacob.
Trump was completely responsible for J6. His administration helped plan it.
I would love to put these organizations to the test and see if they still support the 1A when the govt instead tries to deport an avowed Neo-Nazi who is openly expressing his support for Hitler.
Many of the groups they are fighting for openly support Hitler.
So absent the general mischaracterization of *all* people being like *some* people who are superficially similar, do you have any substantive accusations against the actual people who are being deported?
For example, since writing an op-ed doesn’t prevent anyone from going to class or harass Jews, can you justify the actual actions in the actual cases? Or is it just stereotyping, guilt-by-association, bigotry, and bias?
Hey Nelson. Dumb ignorant Nelson. Go read the actual INA and relevant visa laws. It will save you the pain of being laughed at here.
Support of foreign terrorist groups and other actions have always been a violation of a visa.
Stop living in ignorance.
Revocation of a visa due to violation of terms is a civil act dumdum.
But if everyone, despite their actions, is not allowed to live in the US then we are being unfair!
>policy of arresting, detaining, and deporting international students for expressing anti-Israel opinions
Because such a policy does not exist.
A policy of expelling those calling for genocide and terrorism while trespassing, harassing, and threatenign others does.
Because such a policy does not exist.
Again, from the headline down his article is a bad faith repudiation of speech in order to indict the Trump Administration.
If he had a memo or a draft of policy titled "Plan to deport immigrants because of free speech or speech activism" or whatever that should/would be the headline for a well-informed populace to consume. It's not because either Sullum doesn't have it, he's more concerned with rightthink and policing people's thought on the matter, or both. It's Minitrue indicting their opposition of wrongthink on the premise of their own right to lie and manipulate the truth as enshrined by the 1A.
Exactly. And they don't have any due process right to dispute the assertion that what they have said calls for genocide and terrorism, and that they had trespassed, harassed, and threatened others. The government doesn't need to provide any more evidence of that than you just did.
The 1A only protects speech that people like. It doesn't protect people who commit thoughtcrime.
Was the Supreme Court wrong in Harisiades?
He won't answer until he looks for it on reddit.
1952. So we're talking about the same Court that had just given a green light to the New Deal and ruled in the government's favor in the Wickard case. What do you think?
Hmm, so True Libertarians have to allow totalitarian movements to crush liberty because that is the libertarian way?
What do you mean? Libertarians have been pushing back against the Trump movement.
Leftists cosplaying as libertarians, sure. Even claiming lowering taxes and deregulation is authoritarian. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"The remedy for bad speech is more good speech."
If you don't want the U.S. to become a totalitarian state, then you do that by speaking up whenever anyone's rights are violated, and you vote only for a government that won't violate anyone's rights.
If we think that we can give the government power to punish people for saying things that we think advocates for totalitarianism, yet we would still be able to say whatever we want, then we'd be fools. There would be nothing to stop the government from saying that we were the totalitarian radicals or whatever other horrible word it wants to use to label us.
If you want free speech to be a privilege granted only to people that say the "right" things, then by all means, cheer this administration as it punishes the people saying things that you don't like.
Like when you defended censorship induced by government through social media?
Have you been paying any attention? Trump and his defenders want a tiered system of rights that change depending upon a person's religion, national origin, spoken language, immigration status, and of course what they say and think. For example a Muslim from Afghanistan who speaks Farsi, has a green card, and criticizes Israel has no rights at all. They should be deported to the nearest torture prison. If they are Christian, from a country populated by white people, speak English, and praise the systematic destruction of Gaza, then they're more then welcome to stay as long as they want.
peacefully participating in pro-Palestinian protests falls into those categories.
But unlawful ones, like Mahmoud participated in, should get you gone. Stopping fellow students from accessing the school they paid to attend is theft as far as I'm concerned.
'The Trump Administration Says Sullum's Fantasies Are Not Worth Shit'
Fuck off and die, Sullum.
The Court renounced that test in the 1969 case Brandenburg v. Ohio, holding that even advocacy of criminal conduct is constitutionally protected unless it is both "directed" at inciting "imminent lawless action" and "likely" to do so.
If I was on my college campus, and I started chanting "Death to Hamas!", that would be protected speech. I was not inciting anyone to commit a crime in the present or immediate future, and it would not have been likely to encourage anyone to commit any kind of crime in the present or immediate future, even if it had done that.
Besides, "Death to Hamas," is vague. Hamas is an organization, not an individual, so "death" for Hamas doesn't have to mean the death of any actual people. Hypothetically, I could be referring to breaking Hamas up by imprisoning any members of Hamas that won't renounce it and cease participating in its activities, and doing the same in regards to people that provide it material support. That would effectively "kill" Hamas as an organization.
If someone was saying, "Death to Israel!", that would also be protected speech. The difference between that and "Death to Hamas!" is in our affinity for one and disgust and hatred for the other. That can't be the reason to punish someone that makes one of those statements. If speech that the government agrees with is allowed, but speech it doesn't like is punished, then free speech becomes a privilege granted only to those on the side of whoever is in power.
Some people seem fine with that, unfortunately. They seem to think that their privilege to speak their minds won't be taken away. They must think that they will always be able to choose a government that is on their side.
Did you sign an agreement to not produce speech related to terrorism or in support of such in order to be here?