ICE on Ice

Plus: Suspect in Minnesota shootings arrested, Iran and Israel still fighting, Ross Ulbricht speaks, and more...

Workplace immigration raids on hold. In the face of public protests and an apparent lobbying effort by businesses and members of his administration, President Donald Trump ordered a pause on some workplace immigration raids.

That decision was made after Trump met last week with Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins, who reportedly impressed upon the president the essential role that immigrants (not all of them with proper documentation, it seems) play on American farms. But the pause seems to apply more broadly. Regional offices of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) were told late last week to "hold on all work site enforcement investigations/operations on agriculture (including aquaculture and meat packing plants), restaurants and operating hotels," The New York Times reported on Friday.

That's a sharp pivot for the administration, which had recently ordered ICE to step up its immigration enforcement by specifically targeting workplaces where undocumented migrants might be working. In recent weeks, raids have taken place at nail salons, hardware stores, farms, restaurants, and other job sites. (Last week I wrote about the community response to one such raid in San Diego.)

If we can't have leaders who consistently take pro-liberty positions, then we should hope those who don't will at least sometimes see the error of their ways. Immigration policies aimed at arresting and deporting members of criminal gangs might be broadly popular. Raids targeting individuals who are peacefully exchanging labor for dollars certainly aren't. It's good that Trump is listening to someone other than Stephen Miller about this stuff.

Minnesota shooting suspect arrested: Over the weekend, Minnesota state Rep. Melissa Hortman (D–Brooklyn Park) and her husband were killed, and state Sen. John Hoffman (D–Champlin) and his wife were wounded, in separate attacks carried out in the early hours of Saturday morning. Last night police arrested the man suspected of carrying out what seems to have been a politically motivated attack targeting state lawmakers.

The suspect is Vance Boelter, a 57-year-old man. He was arrested near Green Isle, Minnesota, about an hour west of Minneapolis, and he has been charged with two counts of second-degree murder and two counts of second-degree attempted murder. 

Israel and Iran still killing people: Israel claimed to have hit a command center for Iran's Quds Force on Monday. Meanwhile, the bodies are piling up on both sides.

In a post on X, Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz said "there is no intention to physically harm the residents of Tehran" despite the ongoing bombardment of the city. The Iranian government claims that more than 200 people in Iran have been killed since the war began on Friday. At least 21 people have been killed in Israel. 

Iran and the United States were supposed to negotiate during this week's G7 summit, but "that ship seems to have sailed," reports Reason's Matthew Petti.

extremely wholesome interaction pic.twitter.com/lGZNbLd7Um

— ???????????????????????? (@miragemunny) June 15, 2025

What if there was a big dumb parade and no one cared? What was supposed to be the big spectacle of the weekend—the military parade in Washington, D.C., to mark the U.S. Army's 250th birthday (and which fell on Trump's 79th birthday too)—ended up being overshadowed by the war, the Minnesota shootings, and the "No Kings" protests in hundreds of cities and towns. It also just didn't draw many people and seems to have been kind of a mess.

I just got back from the Trump parade and I have to say it was legitimately the worst executed mass attendance event I've ever seen

One overarching thought: how do you spend $80 million and fumble the basics?

Many more thoughts -

???? ???? ???? pic.twitter.com/e9O9dc1qPx

— Doug Landry (@dougblandry) June 15, 2025

The parade was an absurd waste of money—Reason's Billy Binion crunched the numbers and found that it cost about half a million bucks per minute. I did like the idea of having the Army wear throwback uniforms from the eras when America fought wars for good reasons. Or at least for less bad ones. Well, sometimes less bad ones. Look, I am no apologist for authoritarians and not a big fan of military rah-rah-ism, but I am a history nerd and that was pretty cool.

---

Scenes from Palm Springs: I've assembled this newsletter from a red-eye flight home from FreedomFest, the annual libertarian shindig. It is not difficult to choose the best moment of this year's gathering: Ross Ulbricht's heartfelt (and at times heartbreaking) speech on Friday evening.

What an honor to have @RealRossU join us for one of his first appearances after release. pic.twitter.com/9Khr4a9KgU

— FreedomFest (@TheFreedomFest) June 14, 2025

A full video of Ross' remarks can be found here. 

Ulbricht had been serving two consecutive life sentences in a maximum security prison before being pardoned by President Donald Trump in January. Libertarians of all kinds had called for his release, but the largest share of credit should go to his mother, Lyn Albricht, who was honored with an award at FreedomFest. In remarks to the event's closing dinner, she discussed her new efforts on behalf of individuals serving excessive and cruel sentences. I wish her tremendous success.

---

QUICK HITS

• The Trump administration is effectively nationalizing U.S. Steel (which is a private company, despite how the name sounds). A deal being finalized by the White House would give presidents "a permanent stake in U.S. Steel, significant sway over its board and veto power over a wide array of company actions, an arrangement that could change the nature of foreign investment in the United States," The New York Times reports.
• Matt Yglesias writes that California's high-speed rail project should be scrapped. He's not wrong.
• Is the 25th Amendment useless?
• This guy gets it:

  

  Bluesky (Source: Bluesky)

Comments

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

… that more than 200 people in Iran have been killed..

Worst genocide ever.

[Moonrocks]

Matt Yglesias writes that California's high-speed rail project should be scrapped

When you've lost Matt Yglasias...

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

He heard the project has no tunnels.

[Moonrocks]

$80 million

It's 80 now?

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Do I hear 90?

[TrickyVic (old school)]

Why not,

100 anyone?

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Best part about this is Reason crying over 45M as they've defended 10s of billions to NGOs.

[Eeyore]

I was told 50 billion in savings is a pointless amount to save.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Great username for that comment.

[Eeyore]

I would vote Libertarian - but why bother.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

I’ve been told pardoning cruel and excessive sentences is a misuse of power

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Attempting to shrink government is tyranny.

[Eeyore]

Not supporting government corruption is fascism.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

In April U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly barred the order’s critical proof-of-citizenship requirement for the federal voter registration application and, according to Politico, “another provision that instructs federal agencies not to assist individuals with registering unless they can assess that those people are U.S. citizens.” She left provisions like the Election Day deadline and the UOCAVA proof-of-citizenship requirement in place, but Democrats simply moved along to the favorable venue and achieved a victory in one district court that has nationwide consequences for the integrity of U.S. elections.

Casper granted the states a preliminary injunction, preventing Trump’s order from being implemented, saying the states are likely to prevail in further court proceedings. She said implementing better voter ID would likely cause irreparable harm to states, because it would be complicated and expensive.

https://thefederalist.com/2025/06/13/dems-find-second-judge-to-block-more-of-trumps-order-enforcing-election-law/

Despite every state being able to verify citizenship, democrats and their judicial soldiers refuse to require verification.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Citizenship is racist!

[HorseConch]

No human that can have a Democrat vote harvested is illegal.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

*Voting day in the future*

“This election is too close to call until we get the results from China.”

[Medulla Oblongata]

" Raids targeting individuals who are peacefully exchanging labor for dollars certainly aren't. "

I tend to agree, so long as those participating are not breaking laws(*) that if I were to break, I would be fined or jailed. Minimum wage laws, tax evasion, welfare fraud, identity theft, tax fraud, OSHA regs, are among the first things that pop into my head.

(*) Irrespective of whether such laws should be in effect.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

They are also are peacefully stealing from taxpayers which Boehm seemingly has no issue with.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Not Liz today.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Yeap. Noticed and changed. Makes more sense.

[Dakotian (descendent of Kulaks)]

Yeah I was at Freedom Fest and did not see Liz there. I did sit on Boehm and Binion's discussion. And saw Soave and Doharty's too.

[Randy Sax]

People argue "Americans aren't willing to work for immigrant wages" which is partially true. But the real issue is that Americans work within the regulatory structure. And illegals don't.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

We saw in 2019 citizens lining up for these jobs (meat packing plants) after immigration raids.

The myth of citizens won't work remains a myth to push open borders. They have to justify their defense of theft anyway they can.

[damikesc]

They claim that fucking construction is a job Americans won't do.

That, of course, is a heaping pile of shit. Americans have ALWAYS been more than willing to do construction.

[HorseConch]

Those jobs were paying $20+/hr. Last summer, Tyson announced they were hiring 10,000s of migrants and offering $16. It's a real mystery why those jobs weren't filled by Americans.

[Social Justice is neither]

Also America pays a lot for people to do nothing. What you're willing to do changes a lot when you remove the option of doing nothing and getting paid so you can eat or not be homeless.

[Zeb]

A lot of Americans work outside the regulatory structure too. Probably fewer than once did (sadly, to my mind), but there's plenty of income going unreported (do you file a 1099 for every $600 transaction you make?) and plenty of people working for cash.

[Randy Sax]

Let me re-phrase,

Americans generally work within the regulatory structure. And illegals generally don't.

[Zeb]

Yes, in general. But I think the "informal economy" is a lot bigger than most people realize.

[Minadin]

Odd how reality conflicts with the narrative:

https://x.com/CortesSteve/status/1934617051219345869

"Every seat in the waiting area of Glenn Valley Foods was occupied with people filling out job applications early Thursday afternoon, two days after the meatpacking plant became the center of the largest worksite immigration raid in the state."

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

That. Is. Impossible.

The narrative clearly states on page 7, paragraph 3 that Americans won't want to work.

Then on page 10 paragraph 2 it clearly states these jobs are beneath Americans and only suitable for filthy foreigners.

[bye]

You just ignore facts and chug on .....:)

Over the administration’s first 50 days, ICE arrested nearly 33,000 undocumented immigrants, including 75% accused of or convicted of a crime, the Department of Homeland Security said Wednesday.

Anyway, I ask now what I asked under Biden : What is being done to give a path to citizenship? Biden and Harris did shtall and no one on Reason said a squeak.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Nothing. They are here illegally. They are being told to follow the process. They have to return home and apply for a valid visa.

[BYODB]

The legal immigration system exists, so claiming there is no path to citizenship is false on the face of it.

You also might want to do even the barest amount of research on how many legal immigrants the U.S. lets in every year compared to every other nation on the face of Earth.

The fact you claim to teach college is frightening when you have a total inability to research basic facts. Is that not taught in grad school OR your undergrad? Baffling.

[Medulla Oblongata]

You mean the "path to citizenship" that 1M+ people use annually to become naturalized US citizens and have for decades?

It might not be a smooth and easy as you want to make it, but for the love of all that is holy, please stop pretending that there is not already a legal path to citizenship that people could follow if they just chose to do so instead of wading across the Rio Grande and climbing a fence.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

But that has limits! We cannot accept any limits. Racist!

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

.. mass attendance event..

Yet he claims nobody came.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...President Donald Trump ordered a pause on some workplace immigration raids.

Giving the illegals time to come to the negotiating table.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

ITS A TRAP!

[damikesc]

Rollins was one of his more iffy cabinet secretary nominees.

[MasterThief]

Or giving those businesses a little time to shift to domestic labor. Ending slavery does take some time to implement without crashing the industries dependent on it.
Regardless of that, I don't like the seeming capitulation.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Just days after CPI disappointed the the Trump Tariff infation fear-mongers once again and a month since the UMich survey found that "Women, Democrats, & Low-Income Americans Are Out Of Their TDS-Addled Minds", and one week after Goldman finally called out the idiocy of the UMich survey, slamming its "partisanship" and the "sample design break starting from June 2024"...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/umich-sentiment-surges-higher-early-june-tariff-derangement-sydrome-remains

[Quicktown Brix]

one week after Goldman finally called out the idiocy of the UMich survey

Looking deeper into this: Goldman is predicting blunted tariff inflation of around 3.6% because an economic slowdown will counter inflation.

Goldman economist David Mericle says the core measure of the personal consumption expenditure price index will accelerate to 3.6% later this year, from 2.6% in March.

That will come from the direct impact of higher import prices as well as the higher domestic production costs, as well as from “producers opportunistically raising prices.”

...But more importantly, Mericle says the U.S. economy will slow down later in the year, growing just 1%, or about half of the American economy’s potential.

“We are skeptical about the prospects for prolonged high inflation amidst mediocre economic performance,” he says.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-goldman-sachs-says-tariff-price-hikes-wont-trigger-an-inflation-surge-57dac769

TL:DR A weakening economy is predicted to cause deflationary pressures which will limit inflation caused by tariffs.

[Jefferson Paul]

I'm not a fan of the tariffs. But to play devil's advocate here, weren't the predictions from a couple months ago arguing higher prices and inflation, coupled with economic downturn? Meaning, the predictions already had factored in slower growth in the economy. Or are the newest predictions that the economic growth will slow EVEN MORE than was predicted a couple months ago?

[Quicktown Brix]

I think you have that right. The doom and gloom predictions have been tempered to just gloom.

I think the difference maker is the assumption that the reciprocal tariffs will not be reinstated after the 90 days which is certain for the big dog, China.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

Wow quoting yeglasis and bluesky
That 100% proves Liz is and was controlled opposition.
Edit
Ohh it's the evil cancer that is bohem, that makes more sence

[Eeyore]

Hasn't using bluesky been proven to make testicles shrink?

[Randy Sax]

Correlation isn't causation. It's a co-symptom. The disease is chicks in charge.

[bye]

Correlation isn't necessarily causation but it can be.

[Eeyore]

Chicks do have smaller testicles, so if we took average size per user.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Last night police arrested the man suspected of carrying out what seems to have been a politically motivated attack targeting state lawmakers.

This one is a wash, political haymaking wise. The well of whatever this guy's politics are has already been muddied.

[Social Justice is neither]

Murder over political disagreements is predominantly Leftist. Everything I've seen that puts him even remotely centrist is just media wish casting and guilt by association that ignores his particular actions/friends/beliefs. Just one more Leftist lunatic blamed on the Right.

[The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)]

There's obviously a lot of unknowns now that will become clearer over the coming hours/days/weeks, but who gives a shit what his politics are? Murder is Murder is Murder..

Of course the extreme Left has a history of violence and murder - is your implication the extreme Right doesn't? I suppose all the abortion clinics that have been bombed over the years and doctors murdered who performed abortions - they were all Leftists too?

C'mon, be better. Violence is equally bad no matter who initiates and who the victims are.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

I know your usual liberal sources won't tell you this but there are far more attacks on pro life centers than there are abortion clinics.

[bye]

Average Stupid Dude, the sectarian , feminist and Democrat anti-abortion folks always rage about idiots like you
Many atheists oppose abortion incl the Biggest

Christopher Hitchens Wound Up Opposing Abortion Choice
April 8, 2020
https://secularprolife.org/2020/04/christopher-hitchens-wound-up-opposing/

Here are just some of the sites where they attack stupid folk like you

CHOICES4LIFE.ORG <======= Pro-life children of rape, protesting the lack of help given by feminists

https://abortionworker.com/ <==== after 17 years at PP this woman found what horrors were going on and she helps others escape the killing floors of PP

SECULAR PRO-lIFE

University Faculty for Life
A multidisciplinary association of scholars speaking out for human life

POST-ROE Generation

PRO-LIFE ALLIANCE OF GAYS AND LESBIANS +
HUMAN RIGHTS START WHEN HUMAN LIFE BEGINS

THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF
PRO-LIFE OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNECOLOGISTS
BOARD CERTIFIED. PROFESSIONAL.
MEDICAL EXPERTS IN THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT SINCE 1973

Democrats for Life

PRogressive Anti-abortion Uprising

Feminsts for Life

SPUC: Society for the Protection of Unborn Children

https://yourlovingchoices.org/ YOUR LOVING CHOICES

[rbike]

How many were killed and bombed? When was the last of either? Yep, you certainly think you are smarter,...

[VinniUSMC]

I don't think anyone on the Left will be convinced that this guy was anything other than a right-wing extremist.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/14/us/minnesota-shootings-manhunt-vance-boelter-invs?utm_source=

[Spiritus Mundi]

...he has been charged with two counts of second-degree murder...

Why 2nd degree? This was clearly premeditated.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Democrats are only 3/5ths of a person.

[Minadin]

In Minnesota, by state law, 1st degree murder indictments can only be handed down via grand jury. They'll convene one and upgrade the charges, most likely.

https://x.com/Brick_Suit/status/1934582200172691661

[MasterThief]

That seems like a silly procedure, but thanks for clarification. On its face the facts indicate first degree.

[Medulla Oblongata]

MSNBC Shocked Army’s 250th Birthday Lacked 'Tense' or 'Dark, Malevolent Energy'

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2025/06/15/msnbc-cant-believe-armys-250th-birthday-isnt-tense-and-doesnt-have-dark-malevolent-energy-n2658824

“It’s not dark, it’s not tense, it’s not amped up… it’s different,”

“I’m just surprised at the number of the people at the front of the parade who were watching, cheering and then would come and ask to take a selfie,” MSNBC’s Ali Velshi said. “This is a very different mood here. People seem to be going out of their way to say that they’re here to celebrate the Army’s 250th birthday.”

Velshi appeared appalled that the event honored American troops who had sacrificed everything to fight for the United States.

[VinniUSMC]

250th Army Birthday celebration, celebrates Army's 250th birthday. Leftist shocked that King Trump didn't king harder. Leftists would never let an opportunity like that go to waste.

[Spiritus Mundi]

They never do.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

""250th Army Birthday celebration, celebrates Army's 250th birthday.""

The dem media had to mention Trump's birthday every time they mentioned the parade.

The media didn't lean shit from lying to us about Biden's mental health.

[VinniUSMC]

I'm honestly surprised EB managed to post a picture of Trump that didn't try to frame him as an evil dictator/king.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

This guy gets it:

Don’t be so certain.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Not Even Hiding It: 148 Democrats Go Against Barring Non-Citizens from Voting

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/not-even-hiding-it-148-democrats-go-against-barring-non-citizens-from-voting/ar-AA1GLfTm

Despite an overwhelming majority of House Democrats opposing the measure, the House on Tuesday moved to overturn a law in Washington, D.C., that allows non-citizens to vote in local elections.

The bill passed 266-148, according to Fox News. One Democrat voted “present,” while 56 supported the bill.

House Republicans have tried before to overturn the D.C. law, but both times the Democrat-dominated Senate blocked the measure from passing, according to The Washington Post. The Senate now has a Republican majority.

“The right to vote is a defining privilege of American citizenship,” Rep. James Comer, a Republican from Kentucky, said. “Diluting that right by extending it to non-citizens — whether here legally or illegally — undermines the voice of D.C. residents.”

[Idaho-Bob]

while 56 (democrats) supported the bill...

There's 56 people who should avoid answering the doorbell @ 2:30 in the morning.

[Randy Sax]

To be fair, no one should answer the doorbell @ 2:30 in the morning without a shotgun in their hands.

[Idaho-Bob]

Agreed, but Democrats are walking gun free zones.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Joe Biden told Field & Stream magazine "[if] you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door."

Biden told an interviewer that he had advised his wife, Jill, "if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, walk out and put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house."

[Randy Sax]

Fire both shots from your double barrel? The criminal will know, "oh good, he has to reload. Now's my chance."

[Idaho-Bob]

To be fair, he has dementia.

[bye]

A stupid thing to say of course.
Jill firing a double-barrel shotgun from the 2nd Floor at the front door, a guaranteed miss and if they are armed Jill is a dead one.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Israel claimed to have hit a command center for Iran's Quds Force on Monday. Meanwhile, the bodies are piling up on both sides.

Won't someone please think of the mullahs?

[Spiritus Mundi]

*austere religious scholars*

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Mostly peaceful.

[Ersatz]

are their children technically mullets?

[Medulla Oblongata]

US not the only place having immigration-related cultural issues

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/06/13/ballymena-may-be-a-taste-of-things-to-come/

Losing control of your borders and then expecting impoverished communities to pick up the slack. Imposing mass migration on a public that never asked for it. A multicultural state that sacralises difference over unity, and segregation over integration. A political and media class that has covered up horrific crimes committed by members of certain minority groups, for fear of how those supposedly bigoted whites will react. If you wanted to stir up ethnic conflict, if you wanted to burnish the hateful agendas of the hard right, you’d struggle to find a better playbook than this.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Well, you could also call them MAGA retards. Right, Jeff?

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Fine Liz. Have your agricultural workers delayed. But he also expanded urban deportations.

https://abc7.com/live-updates/tensions-flare-downtown-la-anti-ice-protesters-clash-agents-live-updates/16692645/entry/16716401/?linkId=829472509

Trump in a social media posting called on U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials "to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History."

[Medulla Oblongata]

Not Liz today.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

It's the pos bohem today

[Fist of Etiquette]

I just got back from the Trump parade and I have to say it was legitimately the worst executed mass attendance event I've ever seen

With apologies to any doughboys here, the army can apparently no longer march in time. I blame DEI.

[mad.casual]

Cribbing the joke from another article's thread: worst executed mass attendance event I've seen since the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

[VinniUSMC]

The Army does drill? Anyway, they mostly seem to be "moving in formation" rather than "marching". You wouldn't generally expect to be full-on marching except where the VIP section is, when you would be expecting to salute/present arms. And, this is also clearly not a "display your fealty to the Ruler" type of event. Where one might expect, say in NK, that anyone out of step would be punished. It was a celebration of the Army, not Trump.

[Spiritus Mundi]

....where undocumented migrants might be working...

That is ILLEGAL alien you globalist prick.

[Medulla Oblongata]

At least one 20-something did the right thing and paid off her student loans, despite it being a struggle

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/i-pay-2-800-every-month-toward-my-student-loans-although-i-only-have-200-left-each-week-to-spend-i-ll-be-debt-free-this-year/ar-AA1GKbLf

As a college graduate walking the stage in 2023, I crossed the invisible threshold into what everyone calls "the real world."

I said goodbye to the friends I had spent every moment of the past four years with and welcomed my new best friend, student loan debt.

Living in the beautiful coastal town of Newport, Rhode Island, during college was the best experience of my life thus far, yet the worst thing for my bank account. I didn't bat an eye, dropping $20 every weekend to see a cover band, $15 to Uber downtown, and $16 for a salted caramel espresso martini.

With a one-year grace period after graduating, I thought I had time to build up my bank account to start paying off the weight of debt on my shoulders. Yet, little did I know that the interest still grew while I was adjusting to adulting.

I knew I had to make drastic decisions — and fast.

One day, I logged into my account and saw that I owed $3,000 more than my original balance. It sent me into a spiral. I cried thinking I'd be in debt forever and would never be able to go on vacations or buy a new car.

As an English major, I was unfamiliar with economics and how interest rates worked.

Fortunately, my parents were willing to let me live at home after graduating to get my feet on the ground. Moving back home under the same roof as my parents after years of freedom was far from my definition of fun, but it was ultimately the right move financially.

With help from my boyfriend, I realized that minimum payments were not the answer to escaping rising interest rates and quickly becoming debt-free. I decided to devote about 80% of my monthly income, totaling $2,800, toward student loans, sometimes leaving me with only $200 to spend in a week.

If my calculations prove to be correct, I will officially be debt-free in September.

What I originally thought would take 30 years to pay off is taking only two, which I am extremely proud of. Pushing through the stress and many tears was worth it, as I will now cross the threshold into financial freedom.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Good on her. That's the way.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Yup. My daughter also scrimped to pay off her student loans early. And a few years later, she and her husband did the same to pay off business loans for a failed startup.

Suckers, right?

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

As an English major, I was unfamiliar with economics and how interest rates worked.

Another victim of the public school system.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

Exactly, her degree is useless.

[Sun Wukong]

She managed to get a job and pay back her loans. I don't see how you can say her degree is useless. She is doing something productive with it.

[Randy Sax]

Possible. It's also possible she's doing something that doesn't require that degree at all. 2,800/.8 = $3,500 Monthly take home. (3500*12)/0.66(taxes) = ~$64,000 yearly salary.

[Sun Wukong]

Sadly, since employers can't give intelligence tests or really any sort of objective tests to job applicants, nearly every job requires a college degree to show intelligence.

[See.More]

Sadly, since employers can't give intelligence tests or really any sort of objective tests to job applicants, nearly every job requires a college degree to show intelligence.

Even more sadly, college degrees are incredibly poor proxies of intelligence.

[bye]

Randy, if you ever had a real job you would know that though a degree might not count , not having one can sink you.
IT's like lungs, they won't pay the bills but if you don't have any it's tough

[Randy Sax]

I'm a structural engineer. My company employs many people without degrees. The majority of our iron workers, carpenters, masons, etc. don't have college degrees. And they make good money.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

The majority of documented tradesmen make in excess of average income across the country. The ones that don't are not working full-time. Pipelayers in DC metro average $80k. I recently worked for a company that when we put together the benefits package, we handed out 65 copies in Spanish and 4 in English. Only 3 people were interested in benefits if they were required to contribute any amount.

It was a huge issue and the company's only recourse was to offer no benefits and risk federal penalties or make it mandatory and lose workers to other company's that don't.

[Randy Sax]

The push for college (no matter how useless the degree) onto 18 year-olds that have no real concept of money is the real problem.

[Sun Wukong]

Familiarize yourself with Giggs v. Duke Power and that will explain why everyone suddenly had to go to college in the 1970s and 80s.

[The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)]

Great article!

[Medulla Oblongata]

Rioters in Portland attacked the ICE facility, smashed windows, breached the building, and assaulted officers with rocks and more (some officers injured).

So far as I know, no protesters were shot in the face for their antics, despite this being the agreed-upon protocol for such actions.

[Idaho-Bob]

(D)ifferent.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Yeah. But there was a military parade. Why are you talking about local issues. Those riots are cost free.

[Sun Wukong]

Insurance covers the damages. So, that means it is free.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

We need more broken windows to boost the economy!

[bye]

Bastiat was wrong though

[The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)]

"..smashed windows, breached the building, and assaulted officers with rocks and more (some officers injured)."

Hmm, sounds a lot like J6. Should they all have been shot in the face too?

Note to the Binary Thinkers (i.e. most of you): This Does Not Mean I Support Rioters/Looters/Protesters Attacking ICE - It Obviously Means That BOTH Are Wrong.

Remember - one-dimensional, binary thinking is a disease. But there are cures.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Weird how your both sides claim only come out after democrats riot and after a whatabout J6, where over 900 non violent paraders were given months and years in jail.

Why do you idiots think anybody falls foe this? You can go to the sullum original j6 thread and see everyone here denouncing the violence. Go back to the BLM riots and you see your team defending the peaceful riots and screaming about unmarked vans.

Youre fooling nobody sarc sock.

You can't even figure out 3 hours vs weeks or months.

You can't even figure out the difference from pushing at barriers compared to iced water bottles, rocks, commercial grade fireworks.

Youre just trying to defend the left.

[rbike]

Hey, I think you forgot. He is smarter than you, And me.

Doesn't mean he cares about facts. Just raw, pure intelligence.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The parade was an absurd waste of money...

Everything the feds do is a waste of money, cool or not. There's no pulling out of this spiral short of amending the Constitution to allow electing Javier Milei as president. (And replacing a good number of federal judges.)

[Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)]

The thing Boehm and Billy Binion are lying about is that the parade was paid for out of pocket by Trump and a bunch of corporate donors.

One million times less of a waste of corporate money than the average Pedo Pride parade.

[Quicktown Brix]

the parade was paid for out of pocket by Trump and a bunch of corporate donors.

I'd like to see the figures on that. I haven't seen anyone give a dollar amount on how much was donated vs. tax payer funded.

[Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)]

You should look around for it then, because the public statements were the whole thing. Keep us honest, QB.

[Quicktown Brix]

The donations have not been disclosed.

AP reported "Private donations from companies like Lockheed Martin, Amazon and UFC are helping defray some of the costs, but the government still is expected to spend $25 million to $45 million." but I don't know where their figures are coming from either.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-military-parade-army-france-bastille-3f35b9f85411bb47a7f4772f322afd7f

It's chump change to the feds anyway.

[Zeb]

I figure government is going to have some degree of pageantry, so I can't get too worked up about it even though if I were in charge, there would be none of it.

[Quicktown Brix]

Yeah, for perspective, the cost of sending an aircraft carrier to the middle east is ~$13 billion and missiles cost anywhere from a few million to ~$30 million each.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Better to have our soldiers parade in our streets than fighting in someone else’s streets.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

According to the Atlantic it is absolutely terrible we have more troops in LA than Syria.

[Quicktown Brix]

Definitely!

[bye]

But this is a rather hateful and dumb comment. That parade doesn't cost what 4th of July celebrations cost (opportunity cost and externalities like increased pollution included) but only a FOOL would say we are better off without 4th of July.

“To celebrate a festival means: to live out, for some special occasion and in an uncommon manner, the universal assent to the world as a whole.”

— Josef Pieper

“The soul of leisure, it can be said, lies in “celebration”. Celebration is the point at which the three elements of leisure come to a focus: relaxation, effortlessness, and superiority of “active leisure” to all functions.”

— Josef Pieper

“There is no need to waste words showing that not everything is useless which cannot be brought under the definition of the useful.”

— Josef Pieper

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Democrats hate the law.

Cece Woods
@ceceswoods
LA City Council member blatantly asks LAPD Chief Jim McDonnell to give the immigrant community a heads up re ICE enforcement.

“No we can’t do that. That would be obstruction of justice. You might want to talk to the city attorney about that.”

On the record, no shame asking the LAPD Chief to be involved in obstruction of justice.

MIND BOGGLING. ZERO SHAME. ZERO RESPECT FOR THE LAW.
Video

https://x.com/ceceswoods/status/1933336525821051257

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Posted on Saturday but worth posting again as the media a d reason continue to drive false stories with appeals to emotion.

Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
I was at this operation with Noem. It wasn’t targeting a “pregnant mother”, it was targeting her previously deported illegal alien Mexican husband who had been convicted of drug trafficking in February & had an attempted murder charge pleaded down to an assault conviction. ICE had a criminal judicial warrant for his arrest, signed off on by a federal judge, because he illegally re-entered the U.S. after removal, which is a felony.

Of course, none of that context is in
@KTLA
reporting here as they only spoke to his wife, who apparently *shockingly* didn’t disclose any of his criminal history.

[mad.casual]

“No we can’t do that. That would be obstruction of justice. You might want to talk to the city attorney about that.”

#ACAB #OneBadApple #Brickbat

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'If we can't have leaders who consistently take pro-liberty positions, then we should hope those who don't will at least sometimes see the error of their ways.'

Hey, Reason, how about leaders who consistently take anti-liberty positions? Would you rather have them in power?

[sarcasmic]

"Democrats are worse, that makes it ok."

[Spiritus Mundi]

Drink!

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Do you think drunks hate Mondays like working people?

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

You think democrats are the bees knees.

[The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)]

Aren't Republicans?

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Nope.

See the difference between you and your socks is we criticize the vast majority of the GOPe. Whereas you seek to defend the left whole criticizing the few good gop any time they take a step in the right direction. Like your complaints about defending NGOs, firing gov employees, etc. All under a false guise of keeping government growing and empowered by the left.

You rage harder at funding cuts, deregulation, downsizing fed government than you do with the left growing government. Youre fooling nobody dumdum.

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

Poor stupid sarcbot.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Waltz is a communist.

DeVory Darkins

@devorydarkins
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, who has visited China over 30 times, says China may be the world's moral authority.

"Who holds the moral authority...Consistently over and over again, we are going to have to face the reality: It might be the Chinese."
Video

https://x.com/devorydarkins/status/1933589727300784576

[Idaho-Bob]

JFC.

I guess that justifies his boy killing democrats who dare to vote outside party lines.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

To quote Melvin from as good as it gets
Girl "how are you so good at writing women"
Melvin "I think of what a man would do then I remove all logic and accountability"

[bye]

I like Jack Nicholson but a pundit he is not.
Rather it's like Edith Stein said

[Women] comprehend not merely with the intellect but also with the heart. (Problems of Women's Education)

and you can see Jack's ice heart in that scene [the actress had to be quite bright to play that stupid part so well FYI ]

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

No they comprehend from them being the center of the world

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

I’m surprised nobody in the DNC has told Waltz to stfu or else.

[damikesc]

They keep bringing him around. They seem to think he's gold or something.

[Jefferson Paul]

He shows that you can be masculine and a Democrat!

[InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)]

Masculine in what way? Closet gay?

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

The Trump administration is effectively nationalizing U.S. Steel (which is a private company, despite how the name sounds).

Worked for Venezuela.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Democrats have become the party of old people and failed theater kids.

https://x.com/iAnonPatriot/status/1934247928870371538

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

They seem like normal people.

[Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)]

I imagine that's how White Mike spends his evenings now.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Stikes me has having a pederast vibe. Like Hadrian and Antinous.

[VinniUSMC]

What the actual fuck???

[Outlaw Josey Wales]

Bread and Puppet meets Where the Wild Things Are - as imagined by a cadre of cat loving women.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)]

What in the actual fuck did I just fucking watch?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Ulbricht had been serving two consecutive life sentences in a maximum security prison before being pardoned by President Donald Trump in January.

A positive word about the president? I might faint.

[mad.casual]

Objective statements of fact are now positive words or 'praise' you TDS-addled twit!? ????

[mad.casual]

Arg! Comment system ate my smiley 🙂 ????

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Trump administration is effectively nationalizing U.S. Steel...

Big if true.

[SRG2]

Big if true.

Basically a policy indicating that socialism is preferable to foreign ownership.

[sarcasmic]

I've been told that China is beating us economically and it's partly due to the Chinese government having a stake in major companies. So if we're going to compete then our government needs to be more like the PRC and take control of industry.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

It is amazing how every one of your arguments are derived from ignorance and strawman.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

And malt liquor.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)]

Lots of malt liquor.

[bye]

I don't think 'derived' is the word you want. Your argument bypass thought is what you want to say.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

No. He starts with a narrative and makes an argument, with no interest in actually exploring the facts. He creates arguments through his own ignorance. And when confronted with actual facts he refuses to learn.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Like boehm, you are incapable of understanding what the deal even was. The sale was upheld based on wording that states Japan can't shut down the plants within 10 years. Why this matter? China has been buying up British steel to shut down their plants.

Like sarc you intentionally remain ignorant.

There isn't any subsidized funding in this deal.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

SRG's case of TDS prohibits his ability to see any Trump action in a rational manner. SRG is a fucking pile of TDS-addled shit and nothing more.

[Spiritus Mundi]

I am sure this is just as accurate as when Reeeason (Namely Lancaster and ENB) told us Trump is going to nationalize tiktok.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

It's true. Biggly.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Is the 25th Amendment useless?

It's no match for powerful handlers and a complicit corporate press.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Useless because it has no power to remove all the people running the Biden administration behind the scenes.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

It's useless because not going against your party is far more important. Besides why would the people running the country then want to give up their power?

[Spiritus Mundi]

This guy gets it:
*Tariff price inflation hasn't happened
*Everybody is coming to the negotiation table
*Companies are re-shoring and committed to trillion$ in domestic investment
*Liberals are losing their shit (well maybe he was right about the last one)

[mad.casual]

The whole thing screams "And you thought 'I'm with stupid ->' t-shirts were dumb."

His supply/demand curve has domestic supply/demand but no foreign supply/demand. It's a simple economic model out of context.

His shirt says "foster political dysfunction" like "fostering political function" is a better alternative.

For all the stupidity of bumper sticker philosophy, there are "enlightened" people (wearing Michigan hats) who are motivated to do more work to look more stupid. At least bumper sticker philosophy is cheap, easy, and occasionally entertaining.

[Fist of Etiquette]

This guy gets it...

Is this guy talking about all tariffs or just America's?

[mad.casual]

Just Michigan.

[Dillinger]

cheat at football for NCAA national championship - check
cheat at fungal research for Chinese national championship - check

[mad.casual]

Your tariffs are fostering my political dysfunction!

[Dillinger]

is "anyone wearing a shirt requiring more than 3 seconds to read gets punched in the face" a violation of the NAP?

[Jefferson Paul]

It is, but I'm willing to forgo the NAP for that, as well as protest signs that require 10 seconds to read entirely.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)]

No, as the NAP has already been violated by the guy wearing the shirt that takes more than three seconds to read.

[Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)]

who reportedly impressed upon the president the essential role that immigrants (not all of them with proper documentation, it seems) play on American farms.

They're not "immigrants"—they're illegal aliens. The farmers who hire them know full well they're breaking the law, and they don't give a fuck. And the few who aren't doing it for the same reasons Southern plantation owners kept Black slaves are doing it just to stay competitive—because you can’t compete while paying California minimum wage, plus benefits and everything else.

[sarcasmic]

If we can't have leaders who consistently take pro-liberty positions, then we should hope those who don't will at least sometimes see the error of their ways. Immigration policies aimed at arresting and deporting members of criminal gangs might be broadly popular. Raids targeting individuals who are peacefully exchanging labor for dollars certainly aren't. It's good that Trump is listening to someone other than Stephen Miller about this stuff.

Pro-liberty is leftist.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Sadly you believe this.

sarcasmic 2 months ago
Flag Comment
Mute User
At this moment in time, from what I've seen, the Democratic Party has more respect for liberty, both personal and economic, than Trump's Republican Party. Maybe the GOP will get back to its roots after Trump is no longer the party's god emperor. I hope so, but doubt it.

Then again you never defend democrats. Just ask yourself.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Remember to always check the New Progressive Dictionary. The latest edition defines "liberty" as a lack of personal responsibility and freedom from consequences. Thus Sarc is correct.

[sarcasmic]

It's you Trump defenders who are now in the business of redefining words. Take "emergency" for example. Used to mean something important. Now it's just whatever ho-hum excuse Trump says when he wants more power. Another would be "jurisdiction". You guys are standing on your heads trying to redefine that so you can strip people of their citizenship. Or "liberty" which, to you guys, means asking permission and obeying commands. You guys are just like the leftists you hate, redefining words to increase power and decrease freedom. You're both scum.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Projection.

Stop using your lack of education as an attack on others.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

""Trump defenders who are now in the business of redefining words. Take "emergency" for example. ""

Don't you know democrats did it first.

The concept of claiming emergency when there is not, pre-dates Trump.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Remember that Washington defied the expressed will of the Continental Congress when he ordered the inoculation of troops under his command with live smallpox virus. Claiming emergency is literally as old as the Republic.

[bye]

still, will you stipulate that if the following is true, then you have no point

"ICE has generally focused its limited resources on arresting and removing migrants from the U.S. interior who pose public safety threats. Most interior removals are of immigrants who come into contact with the criminal justice system: 79 percent of ICE deportations from the interior in FY 2021-24 were of someone with a criminal conviction. And most removals from the interior are of migrants from Mexico or northern Central America."

[sarcasmic]

The suspect is Vance Boelter, a 57-year-old man. He was arrested near Green Isle, Minnesota, about an hour west of Minneapolis, and he has been charged with two counts of second-degree murder and two counts of second-degree attempted murder.

Have the MAGAs started a GoFundMe for their hero's legal defense? He killed Democrats. For MAGAs it doesn't get more heroic than that. Regardless I'm sure he'll get a pardon.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

You are spiraling.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

So you've gone the shrike route and ignored every single piece of information on the story to attack conservatives. But you're not a Democrat. Just ask yourself.

[Idaho-Bob]

Projection.

He killed democrats for voting against democrats. Sounds exceptionally leftist. You fuckers are the insane violent monsters. Your kind has demonstrated it for two straight weeks.

[sarcasmic]

Why do his motives matter? You guys are always saying that Democrats are the root of all evil in the world. You should be celebrating these murders. Now there's less evil in the world, right?

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Just because you got a hard on with babbit being shot, doesn't mean everyone does dumbfuck.

But I get the need to project and defend your team.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

Maybe Vance Boelter wanted some of that sweet $5 million Trump money if the cops had shot his piece of shit self.

You know - like the St Babbitt family got from us taxpayers.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)]

A new sock, Shrike? Did you manage to get your Sarah Palin's Buttplug account banned again?

[Sun Wukong]

I think the original "sarcasmic" is dead or in jail or something. The account has clearly been taken over by the "Shrike" organization. Look at the language and the bizarre reasoning. You can't fake that kind of irrationality.

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

Broken.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

Vance Boelter = Trump cultist, Aborto-Freak, Christian Nationalist, put "kill list" of 70 Democrats in his car, ultra conservative.

An ML type for sure.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[bye]

You are a fool and everyone knows it.

HE is first of all in any sane person's mind a MURDERER and the rest then is what the murderer uses, assumes, plays at to be able to excuse a horrible thing.

Where Christian Nationalist is deducible from cold-blooded murderer shows some of him in YOU !!!!! You are like him. Really

[TrickyVic (old school)]

""Have the MAGAs started a GoFundMe for their hero's legal defense?""

GoFundMe doesn't like that kind of thing.

It's not like they are progressives cheering the murder of a CEO.
How much did Luigi have in his GoFundMe before they pulled it?

[Marshal]

Every time sarc comments I'm reminded of the study which demonstrated that while people on the right understand the left's positions quite well people on the left are completely fucking clueless. In sarc's defense though it's an act. Literally no one is as stupid as he presents himself.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'The parade was an absurd waste of money—Reason's Billy Binion crunched the numbers and found that it cost about half a million bucks per minute.'

Now ask Billy to crunch the numbers on all the No Kings parades (and demonstrations, protests, sit-ins, and love-fests). You can start with dedicated law enforcement costs, and other related municipal expenses.

[sarcasmic]

"Democrats did it first, that makes it ok."

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Poor sarc.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Got it. Youre still broken. And a Democrat.

[Idaho-Bob]

Hey campers it's cold outside!

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Cue Sonny and Cher.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Drink!

[Medulla Oblongata]

The parade was an absurd waste of money...

Next, do 4th of July celebration costs for government at all levels, Christmas parades, Macy's Thanksgiving parade...

And that Bicentennial crap I had to suffer through as a kid! And to thing, the Semiquincentennial is coming up next year! How much will we piss away on that deal?!

[Spiritus Mundi]

Every sporting event fly over.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Speaking of Bicentennial...commemorative coins, those aren't cheap to mint, all the Presidential Dollars, state quarters, ...

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Hey, it takes money to make money.

[Zeb]

Commemorative coins (at least those sold to collectors) are pretty profitable, I think. I think quarters still have a positive seigniorage, even when they change the backs more often. Minting money is typically (historically, at least) not a money loser for governments.
The presidential dollars, I contend, are the worst designed coins ever minted in all of human history. The portraits just look like bad, computer generated cartoons.

[Zeb]

Let's not do those either. At least while we're paying for it with borrowed money.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'A deal being finalized by the White House would give presidents "a permanent stake in U.S. Steel, significant sway over its board and veto power over a wide array of company actions, an arrangement that could change the nature of foreign investment in the United States," The New York Times reports.'

Did the NYT "business" reporters have socialist-fascist boners?

[sarcasmic]

"Socialists did it first, that makes it ok."

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Says the guy wanting to raise income taxes again to pay for socialist spending.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Wow! A new one.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Drink!

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Does being a retard make your dumb shit OK?

[sarcasmic]

You are attacking people who oppose Trump's plan to start doing literal socialism by calling his critics socialist. The only possible conclusion is that socialists criticizing socialism is hypocritical, and that makes what Trump is doing ok. Same old Trumpian song and dance: call Trump critics hypocrites to shut down criticism and make whatever he's doing ok.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Like every socialist trump began by reducing the scope of government said the retarded leftist shit.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)]

A drunk retard.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

It was short lived, being Trotskyites they quickly grew into disillusionment knowing they would be on the outside looking in.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Howard Lutnick
@howardlutnick
Jun 14
President Trump has secured a perpetual Golden Share as part of Nippon Steel’s acquisition of U.S. Steel. This partnership between the United States and Nippon Steel includes historic $14 billion investment in U.S. Steel by Nippon Steel that will revitalize this strategic and iconic U.S. company and expand steel production in the United States.

MAGA and Marxists.

[Medulla Oblongata]

I hurt myself laughing...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/6/15/2327392/-Elon-Musk-has-an-idea-for-a-new-political-party-that-already-exists

About a week ago, as his breakup with President Donald Trump went supernova, multibillionaire Elon Musk hit on a favorite idea among political dilettantes: “A new political party is needed in America to represent the 80% in the middle!”

Musk is no centrist, and his highest-profile policy moves have been widely unpopular, so who knows what kind of party he’s imagining. But the general idea—a party that appeals to a so-called middle majority—has recently been promoted by TV-friendly businessman Mark Cuban, presidential also-ran Andrew Yang, and the enervate political organization No Labels.

But these elites are all missing the same crucial fact: A political party that focuses on broadly popular policies already exists.

It’s the Democratic Party.

[sarcasmic]

It’s the Democratic Party.

They truly are the root of all evil in the world. If only someone would start offing them. You know?

[A Modest Proposal]

As seen this weekend, the Democrats have started killing Democrats who wouldn't conform.

[sarcasmic]

That's a good thing, right? Less evil in the world.

[A Modest Proposal]

If you say so, my Democratic Party friend (Please don't shoot me).

[sarcasmic]

I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat. So if I shoot you it will be because I don't like you, not because of politics.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Youre a leftist democrat.

Why lie at this point?

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

I notice you would kill somebody just because you don’t like them.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

After feeding them horse meat.

[Eeyore]

Nothing wrong with horse.

[Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)]

The story as Sarc told it, was that his ex-wife really loved horses. They were her favorite thing. One day she had somehow pissed him off, so he fed her horse meat without telling her what it was while she was eating it.

[Eeyore]

That is mean.

Is feeding vegetarians meat without their consent assault or poisoning or both?

[Jefferson Paul]

ML, if I had to guess, Sarc was lying about feeding her horsemeat. I don't doubt that he would stoop that low, but I do doubt that he had horsemeat just lying around in order to effect this revenge.

[Eeyore]

You can't readily buy it in US markets. Easiest option is to buy your own horse for the purpose of butchering it.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)]

Sarc seems sociopathic enough.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

""I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat."'

Well you do complain more about one than the other. And if someone is complaining about democrats you will diss them and try to make it negative about Trump supporters.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Youre really sad the DNC is spiraling.

Told you you'd be ignored by the fat blue hairs on Saturday. Got your hopes up did you?

[Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)]

Oh wow! This is something Jeff would write.

[Super Scary]

"been promoted by TV-friendly businessman Mark Cuban, presidential also-ran Andrew Yang, and the enervate political organization No Labels."

Aww snap, Yang-gang assemble!

[Sun Wukong]

Musk is imaging a party that will split the right and ensure one party Democratic rule.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'But these elites are all missing the same crucial fact: A political party that focuses on broadly popular policies already exists.

'It’s the Democratic Party.'

They just have to open borders, DEI-LGBTQXYZ, $100 minimum wage, gun and speech control, wealth redistribution, climate hysteria, elite ruling class, and general socialism harder.

[Medulla Oblongata]

As usual, trans-activist has hissy fit over something most people would just shrug and move on...but the one response was nice.

"Holy crap, we had no idea there were THIS many days, weeks, and months dedicated to the gay community. "

https://twitchy.com/samj/2025/06/15/in-and-out-bible-verse-trans-activist-n2414294

Trans-Activist WHINING About Not Consenting to Bible Verse on In-N-Out Cup OWNED with EPIC 'Pride' Post

Concerned Citizen
@BGatesIsaPyscho
“I really don’t like that you put a Bible verse on my food without my consent”

Robert Sterling
@RobertMSterling
“I really don’t like that you put a Bible verse on my food without my consent”

You didn’t consent to a Bible reference on a paper cup? Well I didn’t consent to:

Pride Month
Transgender Day of Visibility
National Coming Out Day
Transgender Day of Remembrance
LGBT History Month
Asexual Awareness Week
Bisexual Awareness Week
Pansexual Visibility Day
Intersex Awareness Day
Non-Binary People’s Day
National LGBTQ+ Health Awareness Week
Spirit Day
Harvey Milk Day
Drag Day
International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia, and Biphobia
Lesbian Visibility Day
National Gay Men’s HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
LGBTQ+ STEM Day
International Pronouns Day
Agender Pride Day
Transgender Awareness Week
National Black HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
National LGBTQ+ Families Day
LGBTQ+ Elders Day
Aromantic Spectrum Awareness Week
Genderfluid Visibility Week
Two-Spirit and Indigenous LGBTQ+ Awareness Day
Queer Youth Day
International Lesbian Day
International Asexuality Day
Bigender Visibility Day
LGBTQ+ Veterans Day
Polyamory Day
LGBTQ+ Parents Day
LGBTQ+ Workers’ Day
Trans Parent Day
Ally Week

[Sun Wukong]

You consented to it when you bought the drink. I am starting to think trans activists are some kind of CIA operation to discredit the entire organized left.

[mad.casual]

I am starting to think trans activists are some kind of CIA operation to discredit the entire organized left.

[squints] What would be the difference?

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Shut up, bake the cake, take the vax, and get on the train!

[mad.casual]

Ally Week

Is this the week all the dykes are supposed to remember to take their weight loss meds?

[Outlaw Josey Wales]

LGBTQZMcBeal week

[Zeb]

I'm pretty sure no one has ever explicitly asked for my consent for any decorations on text on a paper cup I was served. Never realized it was an assault on my personal integrity.

[bye]

Trans are associated with that kind of behavior to speak statistically.

EG
Almost 75% of transgender prisoners behind bars for rape, brutal crimes in the UK
The elevated figures of violence from transgender prisoners are one of the reasons women's rights groups say they do not belong with female inmates

Now in real life
The frequency of personality disorders was 81.4%. The most frequent personality disorder was narcissistic personality disorder (57.1%) and the least was borderline personality disorder.

[Zeb]

I have no doubt that is true. However, I don't know what that has to do with my comment.

[Idaho-Bob]

Aromantic Spectrum Awareness Week

What in the ever-loving-fuck is this?

[Medulla Oblongata]

https://www.arospecweek.org/

Aromantic Spectrum Awareness Week (ASAW) is an annual, international event meant to spread awareness and acceptance of aromantic spectrum identities and the issues we face, as well as making more people aware of our existence while celebrating it.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

How about Emotional Cripples Dependent on Frequent Public Affirmation and Support week?

[Ersatz]

still needs work... you have to make it so that the acronym spells something apropos

[Outlaw Josey Wales]

I read this as aromatic and thought it was some kind of attraction to stinky people or something new that needed attention. Then I caught the mistake. A-Romantic.

First line in the website after the 'who we are' blurb.

How Can I Get Involved?

But aren't you A-Romantic? Obviously the answer is - you can't!

How pathetic.

For the acronym:
Aromantics Emotional Support of Performative Spectrum.
AESOPS

[Randy Sax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCrVdMWfTDg&ab_channel=THEBOYSCAST

This explains it all.

[Jefferson Paul]

That was fucking hilarious. I don't think I've watched a Ryan Long clip that I hated. Some are okay, but most are great. I also didn't know there were animations for Ryan Long/The Boyscast.

I still don't know what Aromantic means though.

[Eeyore]

I read it as "aromatic speculum". No thanks. You can keep that day.

[Sun Wukong]

LOS ANGELES WOMAN SLAMS ICE: "I have friends texting me...my gardener didn't show up, housekeeper didn't show...farmer's market is closed...everyone's scared...you're gonna have to do your own dishes, clean your own house, mow your own lawn!"

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1934341642837737632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1934341642837737632%7Ctwgr%5E0317482bf39fb343c9cc475b7772f474600f334f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F726329%2F

She might have to mow her own lawn or shop at the grocery store. You can't make these people up.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Soon, they'll need someone to wipe their asses for them...

Oh... wait...

https://nypost.com/2025/06/04/us-news/vermont-democrat-slammed-over-disturbing-argument-for-more-immigration-were-not-going-to-have-anyone-around-to-wipe-our-aes/

Rep. Becca Balint (D-Vt.) has come under fire for suggesting President Trump’s immigration crackdown will leave Vermonters without “anyone around to wipe our a–es.”

The congresswoman made the outrageous claim — which she herself called “crude” — during a town hall in Newport, Vt., last week, in response to a question about US immigration policy.

“Our economy is completely bound up in immigration and migrant labor,” Balint told her constituents. “We have to come to a place in Congress where it is no longer a political issue, but we see it as an existential issue for the country.”

“If we don’t have avenues for people to come here legally to work or to build a home here, I’m going to be really crude right now — we’re not going to have anybody around to wipe our a–es because we don’t have enough people in our country now to fill the jobs that we have.”

[Sun Wukong]

The economy isn't enormous and the US still the wealthiest nation in the world by almost any measure because of high skilled highly productive people. Nope. It is all about the low skilled slaves mowing that woman's lawn. She called it.

[Mickey Rat]

Democrats want to put an issue "beyond politics" means that they do not want it debated or decided by democratic means. They simply want anyone who disagrees to shut up and go away.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Democrats called immigrants shit-wipes first so that makes it OK?

Am I doing that right, Sarc?

[Zeb]

I only allow native born orphans to wipe my ass. Need to be sure they can understand my direction properly.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Who will pick our cotton?

[TrickyVic (old school)]

Did the dems forget Nannygate?

[Mike Parsons]

Someone compiled it, but there was a deluge of AWFLs in LA with their plastic faces bitching about losing their gardeners and house keepers.

"I cant wait to see their faces when they have to pick their own fruit, or clean their own toilets!!"

They are fully on the "we want our indentured servants" kick, loud and proud.

[Moonrocks]

Oh no! They might have to start paying their employees a living wage!

[Spiritus Mundi]

Or possibly hire black people! The horror!

[bye]

Yes, that is it.

[Eeyore]

Maybe she should retire to Cuba.

[mad.casual]

"No one is invisible." [proceeds to rant about friends of friends whose housekeepers and gardeners who didn't show up to the 1%ers that voted for Trump]

... remember when you were a little kid and you or your sibling or a friend had an invisible friend(s)? Yeah.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

BUY YER TRUMP PHONE YOU MAGAts!

Trump Organization enters phone market with $499 Trump Mobile device
NEW YORK, June 16 (Reuters) - The Trump Organization launched a self-branded mobile service and a $499 smartphone on Monday, dubbed Trump Mobile, signaling a new effort to court conservative consumers with a wireless service positioned as an alternative to major telecom providers.
The new mobile venture, announced at Trump Tower in Manhattan, will include call centers based in the United States and phones made in America, the organization said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-organization-unveils-self-branded-mobile-phone-network-2025-06-16/

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud to be!

[Spiritus Mundi]

Poor buttplug. Did your Amsoc handle get banned too?

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

This is my only sock.

Since I got wrongly accused all the time I decided to test one of my own to see how fast you Trumptards would catch on.

[Spiritus Mundi]

CP agian I see. Poor buttplug.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

I was tempted to be 'Denny Hasterts Shower Room Lazy-Boy' but I decided on the shorter Rush one.

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

We’re all aware of your weird Denny Hastert fetish, pedo.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

Not long, you pathetic pile of TDS-addled lying lefty shit; your lies are so blatant, you can be seen at midnight in a closed room.
Fuck off and die, shitstain.

[Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)]

This is my only sock.

Lol, I can name seven just off the top of my head.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)]

Post dark web child porn links again, Pluggo?

[Stupid Government Tricks]

This ICE pause must be Trump's 4D chess in action. He actually wants to compromise on some kind of amnesty for all working illegal immigrants, something no Democrat has been able to do, and I believe the last such successful amnesty program was back in Sir Ronald's day.

Yeah, that's the ticket! Trump knows his tariffs have screwed any hope of getting anything done after the 2026 elections swing Congress Democratic, he doesn't give a shit about Vance or Rubio in 2028, so an amnesty for illegal immigrants is his best shot at a legacy.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

No.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Yes.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

No, asswipe.

[sarcasmic]

Doubt it. He's stirred up so much xenophobic hatred by getting his base convinced that all working illegal immigrants are all criminal invaders intent on insurrection that I think even hardcore MAGA cultists like Jesse and ML would turn on him if he changed course on cleansing the nation of illegal vermin.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

You sound just like Rachel maddow.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

But he's not a democrat.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

illegal vermin

You shitstain lefties inevitably go to far and reveal your bigotry and hatred with your vile rhetoric.

[Sun Wukong]

No, he is having ICE spend all its efforts going after criminals, because those are the people who need to be deported the most. The rest are starting to self deport. Nearly a million have already self deported

https://nypost.com/2025/06/15/opinion/nearly-1-million-illegal-immigrants-have-self-deported-under-trump-which-has-led-to-higher-wages/

And inflation is lower now than it has been in years. And the government collected nearly $70 billion in tariff revenue. So, your dreams of tariffs destroying the economy seem unlikely to come true. Dumb Ass.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Inflation is a matter of money supply which raises prices, but price rise alone is not inflation.

You must have missed that memo. Every time anyone says tariffs will cause inflation, the other Trumpies can be guaranteed to shout INFLATION IS A MONEY SUPPLY INCREASE!!!

Anyone who thinks raising taxes does not raise prices is as economically ignorant as Trump.

[Sun Wukong]

I didn't miss that memo. Tariffs are just another tax. That isn't going to do anything to the economy any other taxes do. If you were not such a dishonest dipshit, you would put two and two together and understand the implications of your own points.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

In other words, if you Trumpies were not such dishonest dipshits, you'd admit he's raised taxes on Americans.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

IOWs if you weren't such a brain-dead TDS-addled pile of shit, you'd admit Trump lowered taxes his last term of office, and if the tariffs are a negotiating tool, the increases here might well be temporary.
But that would require:
1) Honesty
2) Intelligence
Not a snowball's chance in hell.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Bzzzzt! Nice playing. But try thinking next time.

If the tariffs are a negotiating tool, that means they can be lowered below the point at which they block imports and revive US manufacturing. It also lowers them below the point at which they can generate enough revenue to replace the income tax.

SGT 1, Sevo -1

If the tariffs are temporary, they also won't block imports or raise revenue to replace the income tax.

SGT 2, Sevo -2

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

But what about the ripples?!?!?

[sarcasmic]

Trumpians will admit that taxes raise prices when Democrats do it. But not with Trump. His taxes are magic.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Non idiots look at data to confirm their assumptions and modify their beliefs based on data. Opposite of you and stg on this topic.

We also realize economics isn't a first order linear model and can took at all the actions being taken.

But dont worry. Ripples are om the way.

Meanwhile keep pushing your bumper stickers that require inflationary policy to sustain. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[bye]

That you don't know Eonomics is clear from the generality of your statements. Raising taxes can lower prices too. Are you talking corporate or personal, for example. The first things to go are luxury items and other sumptuary products.So if higher taxes limit my luxury spending I am now looking at the best buy in what is more essential and that can cause lower prices. A producer will recover by quantity what a cut in prices does to consumer spending.
This is how all things introduced like computers and even cars got to be affordable.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Raising taxes lowers prices. Yeah, right. Slavery is freedom.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

Any raise in taxes can also slow commerce down which would put a damper on price increases.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

So would bombing factories. All sorts of things can put a damper on price increases.

Get real. Trump raised prices.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

"...Trump knows his tariffs have screwed any hope of getting anything done after the 2026 elections swing Congress Democratic,..."

The TARIFFS (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), which have seemed to have near zero financial effects, but have caused numerous head explosions in TDS-addled shit piles like you? Those?
Fuck off and die, asswipe.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

I still find it funny STG avoided the study showing inflation is higher in blue states. Almost as if it is driven by regulatory and monetary policies, especially on energy, and not tariffs.

But he continues in the same manner as climate cultists.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Changing the subject, strawmanning, sounds like you're channeling sarc.

Prices can rise from lots of causes, not just Trump's tariffs, which raise prices universally in addition to whatever shenanigans blue states are up to.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

It's funny how all Trumpies seem to have no sense of humor. They've got that in common with the lefty statists, which just proves that right == left for the fanatics.

Sevo can probably be forgiven, since simply living in San Francisco makes it hard to even recognize jokes. Poor, poor Sevo.

[mad.casual]

It's funny how all Trumpies seem to have no sense of humor.

Ah, so you were only "pretending" to be retarded... exactly like everyone said.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

The joke is all the Trumpies claiming Trump is playing 4D chess, which may well be true, but the rest of the world is living real life, so Trump is only playing with himself.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

TDS-addled shits cannot be forgiven, TDS-addled shit.

[bye]

To show how stupid this person truly is Estimates are that in a lifetime we meet about 80 000 people . Now how my do we know to be Trumpies, how many can we tell are humorless and how many are knowably left or right. And the killer point to show how Stupid this poster is, how many percentage wise would cover all the traits stupid poster bases his assessment on.

My rough math says it can hardly break 5% at tops. So stupid hames 2 mistakes

1) the knowable candidates in his lifetime are less than .000001 % if US population and the remaining about which he doesn't know at all is over 99%.

Now, I do know that Stupid Government Tricks is a fool, Iknow that on the empirical basis he refuses to use 🙂

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Eh? Is there some logic there?

[Medulla Oblongata]

This projects hard, like Newsweek's "How Hillary Clinton Still Can, and Should, Become President After the Trump-Russia Investigation" article.

https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-president-lawrence-lessig-post-686077

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

Upon finding and searching Boelter’s car, police recovered a stash of papers and a notebook that reportedly lists about 70 potential targets. These included numerous prominent Democratic politicians in Minnesota, including U.S. Senator Tina Smith and Representatives Ilhan Omar, Kelly Morrison, and Angie Craig. Other targets included politicians from neighboring states, civic and business leaders, and Planned Parenthood centers. Police also said some of the documents indicated that Boelter may have been planning to target the anti-Trump “No Kings” protests that took place on Saturday.
...
Boelter and his wife, Jenny, appeared to run a private security company. They also appeared to lead a Christian nonprofit called Revoformation Ministries, as well as a company called Red Lion Group that claimed to create jobs for people in the Democratic Republic of Congo. A friend of Boelter’s told the Times he voted for Donald Trump in the 2024 election and was particularly opposed to abortion.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/minnesota-lawmaker-shootings-vance-boelter-arrested-charged-1235365272/

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Yes, his “friend “ said so.
So what if Timpon appointed him to office.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

He was in some obscure security detail, idiot.

That is all you wingnuts have - APPOINTED BY WALZ!

The guy was an Aborto-Freak pastor. 100% of Aborto-Freaks are conservative.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

"...That is all you wingnuts have - APPOINTED BY WALZ!..."

turd alert!
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Looks like turd had to change his handle again; busted for more kiddie-porn, slimy pile of lying lefty shit?

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Boelter, a self-described security professional, was a political appointee on a state workforce development board. Records show that Hoffman was on the same 60-member board, but it is unclear whether Boelter and Hoffman knew each other.

According to state records, Boelter was first appointed to the board in 2016 by then-Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton and reappointed in 2019 by current Governor Tim Walz, a Democrat, for a four-year term until 2023.

SPB wrong again

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

state workforce development board

what a joke

He was barely a glorified recruiter/HR hack

[Medulla Oblongata]

More like a sinecure for hanger's-on.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the TDS-addles ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)]

You give your socks away so easily, Shrike. Some time, you might actually want to vary the language and terms you use.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Now there is a "target list" being pushed around that doesn't include the first victim, is from last years dem legislative members, has people on there multiple times. The vullshit coming out is wild.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

Oh, goody! An anonymous source says something, according to this steaming pile of TDS-addled shit and Rollingstone!
Fuck off and die, shitstain.

[Sun Wukong]

I haven’t seen a single Republican praise Vance Boelter.
Meanwhile, the left treats Luigi Mangione like a patron saint. If Mangione somehow got out of jail, he would be the front runner for the 2028 Democratic nomination.

Go fuck yourself.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

With a barb-wire wrapped broomstick.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

Meanwhile, the left treats Luigi Mangione like a patron saint.

"the left"? Bullshit. Name a Democrat pol who praised that murderer.

Now if you mean the riff-raff "progressive" internet - then yes. I've seen that a lot.

They are the equivalent of Stormfront on the right. No one prominent wants to associate with them.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of TDS-addled lefty shit and proud of it!

[Spiritus Mundi]

Elizabeth Warren:

The visceral response from people across the country who feel cheated, ripped off, and threatened by the vile practices of their insurance companies should be a warning to everyone in the healthcare system.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

She didn't mention Mangione.

Everyone hates the insurers. She mentioned "the people" who feel ripped off by insurers.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[Spiritus Mundi]

WTF dumbass. The quote was a reponse to Mangione murdering a healthcare ceo. You can't be that stupid.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

And where did she condone the murder?

Nowhere.

this is the original claim:

"Meanwhile, the left treats Luigi Mangione like a patron saint"

You find a fucking quote that does that.

Put up or shut up.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

[JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)]

Narrator: "dude, it is shrike. Of course he is."

[Medulla Oblongata]

Apophasis.

[Medulla Oblongata]

That was during an MSNBC interview...

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., is under fire for her statement to Joy Reid on MSNBC explaining why Luigi Mangione allegedly murdered UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Warren explained that this was a “warning ” that “you can only push people so far.” After a public outcry, Warren walked back her statement. Yet, the statement captures the growing radicalism on the left, particularly among anti-capitalist, Democratic Socialists, and other groups. It is also notable how many of the same political and media figures who were apoplectic and unrelenting over the false claim about Trump’s “fine people on both sides” statement are largely disinterested in this and other extreme comments on the left.

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/12/12/warrens-warning-democratic-senator-explains-that-thompson-was-murdered-because-you-can-only-push-people-so-far/

[Medulla Oblongata]

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-luigi-mangione-john-fetterman-healthcare-brian-thompson-48fc4828

Luigi Mangione’s Senate Explainers
Warren and Sanders tell us why killing CEOs is understandable.

If you think sympathy for the devil in Luigi Mangione is confined to the fever swamps of Reddit, consider comments by Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Asked Tuesday about those celebrating the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, the Massachusetts Democrat called it a “warning.”

Did she mean a warning not to shoot someone? Not quite.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

You don't mean to suggest that turd lies, do you?!

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

Well, turd does lie. It's what turd does.

[Medulla Oblongata]

The wise Native-American Warren's responses juxtapose to those of her fellow Democrat...

"Fetterman criticized those praising Mangione in comments to NBC News’s Sahil Kapur.

“He’s the a--hole that’s going to die in prison. Congratulations if you want to celebrate that. A sewer is going to sewer. That’s what social media is about this. And I don’t know why the media wants to turn that into a story, just with these trolls saying these kinds of things anonymously like that,” Fetterman said, according to Kapur.

“I don’t know why that’s news. Remember, he has two children that are going to grow up without their father… It’s vile," he added.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/12/blunt-democratic-senator-roasts-those-cheering-ceos-killing.html

[Sun Wukong]

Chris Murphy said that Magione's actions should create a national conversation about the evils of insurance execs. The guy is a rock star who gets thousands of pieces of fan mail from Democrats every day.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

Need quote and link.

You fucking conservatives lie all the time.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

More lies from turd! Surprise (NOT!).

[Medulla Oblongata]

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/5046690-murder-is-bad/

On Sunday afternoon, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), a seemingly reasonable member of the Democratic Party, sat down in front of his phone and recorded a two-minute video for his million followers on X. “I know it’s uncomfortable for political leaders to wade into the conversation that’s happening in this country in the aftermath of the murder of the United Health CEO,” he wrote. “But we need to listen to what people are feeling. And act.”

He said that “political leaders need to be part of this conversation” after the murder of Brian Thompson, the UnitedHealthcare CEO, on Dec. 4 on a New York City street, execution-style, by a young Ivy League graduate from a wealthy Maryland family. Murphy went on to rail against a “health care industry that mostly doesn’t give a s— about people and only cares about profits.”

Said Murphy: “Murder is never justified. It isn’t. But if this country’s leaders don’t pay attention to the conversation happening right now this weekend, that is a mistake.”

That construction was not unique to Murphy. “Violence is never the answer, but people can be pushed only so far,” Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) told HuffPost. “This is a warning that if you push people hard enough, they lose faith in the ability of their government to make change.”

“Shooting somebody in the back is totally unacceptable, but what I think has happened in the last few months is what you have seen rising up is people’s anger at a health insurance industry which denies people the health care that they desperately need,” said Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on “Meet the Press.”

It’s all the same purposeful vacillation. Murder is never justified, but. Violence is never the answer, but. Shooting somebody is unacceptable, but …

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

All reasonable comments and no one encouraging violence.

You know, people can be angry when their claims are denied without calling for violence (as is the case with these three Senators).

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Since you're digging through the sock drawer, bring back Well-adjusted biden guy.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

'If we can't have writers who consistently take intelligent positions, then we should hope those who don't will at least sometimes see the error of their ways.'

It would be nice, but we get the likes of TDS-addled piles of shit like Bohem.

[Fat Rush Limpcock]

The Associated Press
June 16, 2025 4:45 AM
Friends say Minnesota shooting suspect was deeply religious and conservative
...
“He never talked to me about abortion,” Schroeder said. “It seemed to be just that he was a conservative Republican who naturally followed Trump.”

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/06/16/minnesota-shooting-suspect-deeply-religious-conservative

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

That’s why 2 democrat governors gave him a job.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[TJJ2000]

Boehm's "pro-liberty positions" apparently is breaking-in and squatting on other people's property/nation.

Just repeating the cliche claims of leftard self-entitlement to anything they want. [WE] have a right to invade! [WE] have a right to healthcare! [WE] have a right to more pay! [WE] have a right to STEAL!

Defending the Nation against invasion, defending Individual Liberty and ensuring Justice for all gets in the way of our [WE] Liberty to TAKE, break-in and SQUAT-on what-ever [WE] want claims.

[Dillinger]

>>Meanwhile, the bodies are piling up on both sides.

are you sure? I've heard dozens on the one side, like exactly two dozen may they rest in peace.

[Dillinger]

>>This guy gets it:

nobody in a University of Michigan hat gets it.

[This Is The Zodiac Speaking]

Having awoken from a coma, I am relearning things but I need help.
Can someone tell me if the band Styx is either horrible or awesome?

[This Is The Zodiac Speaking]

And is Dennis De Young an inversion of Freddy Mercury?

[Dillinger]

I loved my Pieces of Eight album.

[This Is The Zodiac Speaking]

Yes, Renegade and Great White Hope. Yeah. Grand Illusion, Paradise Theater, Cornerstone, & Po8 are all pretty consistent, and then you get Kilroy.

But there is a streak of musical theater ala Queen/Bohemian Rhapsody underlying as well.

[Dillinger]

guessing musical theatre v. rock debate is why they hated each other for so long

[This Is The Zodiac Speaking]

That and JY/Tommy seem to live in D DY's shadow

[bye]

Never liked a note of Styx and I was a massive rocker

[rbike]

Not a blue collar man...

[mad.casual]

Before you learn about Styx, you really need to learn about baiting on the internet. Because pretty much everybody who hasn't been in a coma for 25 yrs., including small, naive children, is going to assume you're still suffering from severe brain damage.

[This Is The Zodiac Speaking]

Is it any wonder I'm null and void?

[tracerv]

Tommy Shaw is in the White Castle Hall of Fame. Tommy Shaw is awesome.

[This Is The Zodiac Speaking]

He is really talented, but D DY was the hit writer for Styx. Too Much Time is his high water mark with them...IMO

[Dillinger]

I've given up hope on the afternoon soaps

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Is it any wonder I'm not the President?

[Medulla Oblongata]

Speaking of which (coma, not Styx)

Liberal Wakes Up From a Coma in 2025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Ed6a6Oe1Q&ab_channel=AwakenWithJP

[Jefferson Paul]

The Steelers have been playing Renegade in stadium during a commercial break in the 4th quarter since the early 2000s. It's quite the spectacle to see, with the entire stadium going nuts as soon as they hear the song intro beginning. The stats show it's been rather effective for the Steelers defense, getting a sack, turnover, or 3 and out in the ensuing drive.

That alone makes Styx awesome to me. But I like their music too.

[Dillinger]

>>Is the 25th Amendment useless?

is now.

[Dillinger]

>>Matt Yglesias writes

no.

[Dillinger]

>>the largest share of credit should go to his mother, Lyn Albricht, who was honored with an award at FreedomFest.

Ulbricht's mother's last name is Albricht?

[Dillinger]

>>Look, I am no apologist for authoritarians

lie.

>>and not a big fan of military rah-rah-ism

understatement.

>>but I am a history nerd and that was pretty cool.

two truths and one unnecessary qualifier.

[I, Woodchipper]

Liberals are mentally ill

https://sfstandard.com/2025/06/14/luigi-mangione-musical-theater-tenderloin/

“He’s a folk hero. He’s also hot,” said an attendee named Tom. “I mean, the bondage-y thing works too,” he added, referring to the viral image of Mangione’s shackled legs and stylish footwear.

Completely insane. Reopen the asylums please.

[mad.casual]

Fans Yelp-bombed the Pennsylvania McDonald’s where he was apprehended

Broken theater kids.

He wanted to get caught. He had the evidence with him. Why you would punish fast food workers for playing along with the plot, outside pure narcissistic pathology, is beyond me.

It's like a giant, much more lame, real life reenactment/remake of Natural Born Killers.

[AT]

What if there was a big dumb parade and no one cared?

It would reveal how absurd the handwringing and histrionics of the Narrativists doomsaying futures of fascism and authoritarianism were leading up to it.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Compare to military parades of actual totalitarian regimes like China and N. Korea, where attendance is noted and the applause is thunderous.

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Worst authoritarian evah.

[AT]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

https://x.com/yashar/status/1934631352407830729

"Hadji kabaji goobie doojie lerp lap allah snackbar!"
*KABLOOM*

HAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!

[Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)]

Put the women in the firing line.

[A Thinking Mind]

The suspect is Vance Boelter, a 57-year-old man.

And immediately, before anyone has a chance to be appalled at murder, he’s turned into a political volleyball for opposing sides trying to spike each other. No time to measure a response, immediately people feel compelled to”win.”

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Compare to the Waukesha parade killer who media refused to assign motive when it was clearly racial and promptly memory holed the entire incident.

[Jefferson Paul]

I read that it was a red SUV that was the parade killer. Are you telling me there was a driver of that red SUV? That's a bit far fetched!

[Marshal]

Matt Yglesias writes that California's high-speed rail project should be scrapped. He's not wrong.

This is incomplete. What did he say about it at the time? Since it's turning out exactly as everyone knew it would there is no justification for any change in opinion.