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Free Speech

James Comey's Deleted '86 47' Instagram Post Is Obviously Protected by the First Amendment

A lot of conservatives are falling prey to the same snowflakery they criticize.

Billy Binion | 5.16.2025 4:48 PM

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Former FBI Director James Comey is seen next to his Instagram post that reads "86 47" | Illustration: Eddie Marshall | SMG | ZUMA Press | Newscom | Midjourney
Former FBI Director James Comey is seen next to his now-deleted Instagram post, which reads "86 47." (Illustration: Eddie Marshall | SMG | ZUMA Press | Newscom | Midjourney)

An erstwhile government official's reference to "86"-ing a politician took the news cycle by storm this week, spurring a debate about the meaning of the term and whether or not it is protected speech.

"We've now 86'd [former House Speaker Kevin] McCarthy," former Rep. Matt Gaetz (R–Fla.) posted on X in 2024. He added his allies had managed to do the same to Ronna McDaniel, former chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, and Sen. Mitch McConnell (R–Ky.), who last year stepped down as Senate Republican leader. "Better days are ahead for the Republican Party," Gaetz said.

This was not the "86" post to first set this week's controversy in motion. That came from former FBI Director James Comey, who on Thursday posted an image on Instagram of seashells spelling out "86 47" on the beach. "Cool shell formation on my beach walk," the caption said under the now-deleted post.

Reactions were swift and furious. "James Comey in my view should be held accountable and put behind bars for this," said Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard on Fox News. "Disgraced former FBI Director James Comey just called for the assassination of @POTUS Trump," Kristi Noem, secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), posted on X. "DHS and Secret Service is [sic] investigating this threat and will respond appropriately." The FBI would "provide all necessary support" for that investigation, Kash Patel, director of the bureau, echoed shortly thereafter.

Comey has the unique distinction of already being intensely unpopular across the political spectrum. Many Democrats detested his probe into then–presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's emails; many Republicans despise his long-standing vocal opposition to President Donald Trump, which takes an uncharacteristically partisan tone for a former FBI director. (In reality, Comey's high-profile troubling behavior began decades ago when he prosecuted Martha Stewart for lying about a crime—insider trading—that the federal government didn't even formally allege she'd committed. The audacity.)

But Comey's reputation—tainted as it may be—has no bearing on whether his Instagram post is protected by the First Amendment, or if the recent calls from powerful officials are grounded in reality. In terms of the former, it very clearly is; in terms of the latter, they very clearly are not.

First things first: What does "86"-ing someone most commonly mean? According to Merriam-Webster, it is "to eject, dismiss, or remove (someone)," "to remove (an item) from a menu," or "to reject, discontinue, or get rid of (something)." The term originated "from 1930s soda-counter slang meaning that an item was sold out," notes Webster, with the term later taking hold as a verb in the hospitality industry, as many service workers can attest, to reference expelling a rowdy customer. And while it can be slang for murder, the dictionary opted not to include that in its formal definition "due to its relative recency and sparseness of use."

In other words, it is likely—highly probable, even—that Comey was merely implying Trump should be booted from office. That he was once in a position of immense power may make the post more tasteless, but it does not make it violent. Was Gaetz—who was nominated for attorney general not long ago—saying that he had murdered McCarthy, McDaniel, and McConnell? Was right-wing influencer Jack Posobiec calling for former President Joe Biden's assassination when he posted in January 2022 a call to "86 46"? Should the federal government have launched investigations into them? Should officials have called for criminal charges? Those questions are preposterous, and the answer to all of them is, of course, "no." That some of the most powerful people in the federal government think this is an appropriate approach to Comey says less about his post and more about how they feel about him.

86 46

— Jack Poso ???????? (@JackPosobiec) January 30, 2022

"I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message," he later posted on Instagram. "I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me but I oppose violence of any kind so I took the post down." The most offensive thing about the ordeal is that a former FBI director is posting pictures of politicized seashells as if he were a Resistance Mom, but I digress.

It's worth asking, though: What if Gabbard, Noem, and the online peanut gallery are right in their implausible assertion that Comey was wishing death on Trump? That would certainly make the post more vulgar and ill-advised. Still, the calls for his arrest and prosecution would be ludicrous, because that speech, too, is protected by the First Amendment, which does not merely shield feel-good words from government retribution. "Imagine saying 20 years ago 'I hope Bin Laden is killed,'" said Conor Fitzpatrick, an attorney at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, a nonprofit dedicated to First Amendment issues. "That is 100% protected speech."

For years, one of the foremost criticisms the right has made against progressives is that they are snowflakes: words are violence; the world is out to get them; they are constantly victims of microaggressions. The critique has often had merit. Now some of those same conservatives would benefit from taking a long, hard look in the mirror.

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  1. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    implausible assertion that Comey was wishing death on Trump

    Talk to anyone on the left and you'll find its not the least bit implausible they wish him to die.

    1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

      Given the arrest of a Roger Stone under Biden, democrats should be just fine with a tactical team showing up at Comey’s place with a no knock warrant at 4 AM to bring him in for questioning.

      Hey, “democrats did it first”, right.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        I’m kind of shocked (not) that Sarc isn’t here trolling with that. But, yes, Comey deserves the 4 am SWAT team knock.

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          A vewwy vewwy quite knock.

          1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

            How’s your great uncle doing?

            1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

              Oh, hey fag. He’s great.

        2. SIV   2 months ago

          A knock? And give Comey a chance to flush the evidence of his assassination plot down the toilet? The former-FBI director almost certainly retained deadly weapons. No knock and neutralizing any threatening dogs in or around the disgraced ex-G-man's abode is a must.

          1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

            Kicking in the door without warning and tossing a flash grenade in is a start. Maybe some tear gas too. Oh what am I saying. Of COURSE there must be tear gas.

      2. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

        Comey is the Republican that helped Trump beat Hillary the most out of all Republicans.

        1. B G   2 months ago

          I thought that it was the russian interference which was being investigated by "Crossfire Hurricane" and their improperly obtained classified surveillance warrants that gave the 2016 election over to trump.

          The timing of when and how additional evidence which should have been deemed incriminating to either HRC or Huma Abedin, or both for causing classified material to end up on the personal laptop of Anthony Wiener (an uncleared and deeply compromised individual) surfaced wasn't Comey's doing. Really, the fact that he fast-tracked a decision to disregard evidence which would have been on its own sufficient for a conviction of any "average person" on multiple criminal counts really shouldn't constitute inteference in favor of trump except maybe through some kind of ideological funhouse mirror.

          Meanwhile, his agency was carrying out clandestine surveillance of the opposition party's candidate and campaign staff during an election based on warrants which were obtained by means which an IG investigation deemed to be improper (using unconfirmed "evidence" from a compromised source while concealing the political nature of its origins, which later turned out to have been almost wholly fabricated). WIth all the wild rhetoric about the US degenerating into a "banana republic" under trump, why wasn't there more made of the fictional nature of the entire "russiagate" narrative and the role of government agents, especially within the "state security" agencies in propagating it.

          After the election, when the FBI was setting up an investigation which would eventually be taken over by Mueller, even Peter "we'll stop him from wiiining" Sztrock refused to accept a role in the effort becuase he said, "there's no _there_ there".

          1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

            Obama’s two biggest mistakes were appointing the Bush Republicans Gates and Comey. Has hating Hillary Clinton improved your life?? Such a strange hobby. But then you people supported sacrificing American soldiers to slaughter innocent Muslims so you people are freaks.

            1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

              Comey is the Republican that helped Trump beat Hillary

              Comey kept her ass out of jail, you stupid fuck.

              1. DesigNate   2 months ago

                I may have to rethink my dumbest rankings with the stuff that “Sam” has been posting.

                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                  After Molly today, race is over.

                2. rbike   2 months ago

                  Hoping for some crypto investing advice. Right??

                  1. JohnZ   2 months ago

                    Ask Jim Cramer....

                    1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                      Are we doing a Brewster’s Millions?

                3. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                  KAR is back. As Thomas Creech. The man who murdered my great uncle prior to being arrested as a serial killer.

            2. DenverJ   1 month ago

              Yes, I remember well all the libertarians cheering on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars...

              1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 month ago

                I remember their glee at innocent Muslims being slaughtered.

    2. MasterThief   2 months ago

      That is explicitly what is meant by people saying 86 47. The whole article is an attempt to play dumb and dodge accountability for his political tribe. I'll grant that the former director of the FBI engaging in this speech is especially bad and probably crosses the legal threshold, but I'm not inclined to encourage prosecution for his speech.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        I will say: if he does not know what "86" means, he should have his entire salary for his entire term in the FBI clawed back due to rank incompetence.

      2. Ersatz   2 months ago

        It does validate the idea of revoking his security clearance.,

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Not only wishing him dead, in the "i wish you'd get hit by a bus and die!" or "I hope he gets struck by lightning" or "yay, giant meteor!".

      It is a call-out akin to "won't someone rid me of this troublesome priest". And anyone reproducing it (Molly) is doing the same thing. They are actively, albeit anonymously, recruiting the next Luigi, hoping he is more successful than the previous cretins who missed their chances.

      1. Ben of Houston   1 month ago

        I have to admit, I was going to reference Beckett. The fact that this happened after two assassination attempts makes it far worse.

      2. DaveKunard   1 month ago

        I hope someone kills trump, vance, and lots of police.

    4. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Was it the burning him in effigy, the staged public mock executions, or the bullet that killed Corey Comperatore that gave it away?

    5. Riva   2 months ago

      Not quite as direct as Kathy Griffin or a Julius Caesar Shakespeare in the Park performance but gets the message across nonetheless.

      1. Ersatz   2 months ago

        I wonder which ways the head spooks signal the commencing of various clandestine operations. Was this him being naively stupid and just trying to troll Trump or was he sending a message to the contacts he has in the organization?

        1. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

          Could very well be a signal. Similar to Al Gore saying we nee 7 trillion an the Biden DNC congress sending out trillions that has all but disappeared.

    6. BigT   2 months ago

      Threatening the life of the prez is a crime.

      DoJ, do your job.

      1. DaveKunard   1 month ago

        Why do you people even bother posting to a libertarian news site?

        It would be like angrily posting on a porn site how furious you are they didn't cover the NHL playoffs.

      2. Zeb   1 month ago

        Where's the threat?

    7. Zeb   1 month ago

      Yes, there are plenty of people wishing death on Trump. That doesn't mean this is a wish for his death, let alone any kind of threat or incitement. 86 most commonly means to remove someone from the premises. I, at least, have never heard it use to mean murdering someone. I think a call for impeachment is a more reasonable interpretation. Though given the high profile assassination attempts that have already happened, it would probably be wise to tone it down a bit.

  2. Homer Thompson   2 months ago

    86 online political influencers (aka shills)

    1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

      86 the democrat party.

      1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

        Trump was a Democrat when you were putting “W, the President” bumper stickers on your car. Lol.

        1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

          So?

          1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

            Exactly, who cares about sacrificing 7000 American soldiers to slaughter innocent Muslims?!? 😉

            1. Ersatz   2 months ago

              or 65+million babies sacrificed to help allow the Muslims to overrun the west

            2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              "...Exactly, who cares about sacrificing 7000 American soldiers to slaughter innocent Muslims?!? ..."

              Leave whoever was impersonating Biden at the time out of this.
              Oh, and fuck off and die.

            3. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

              Trump is the best democrat ever!

      2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

        How’s your great uncle doing?

  3. arpiniant1   2 months ago

    Please show some publicly popular definition of '86' that means 'to kill'
    morons
    to throw out
    get rid of
    traitortrump
    king of the snowflakes

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Yes, you marxist tumor, we realize this appeal to pedantry is being employed as a deflection.

      And the only thing Trump is a traitor to is your stupid utopian fantasies. You cockroaches don't even like this country, which is why you say it needs to be "disrupted, dismantled, and abolished" while your allies chant to "death to America" in its streets and openly state that their aim is its destruction.

      1. Zeb   1 month ago

        How is it pedantry? 86 doesn't only mean murder. It makes a lot more sense to interpret it as a call for impeachment if you ask me.

    2. rferris   2 months ago

      Sorry you are such a dullard that you do not know what to 86 something means.

      It means to get rid of in a final manner.

      Comey is not just some random guy.

    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      86'd
      Share definition
      To get rid of, originally for killing someone. The phrase "80 miles out and 6 feet under" was reserved for someone who had to dig their own grave 80 miles from civilization and then get shot execution-style. All terms for 86'd originated from this, be it alcohol or eliminating.

      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=86%27d

      Used in many gangster movies to mean to kill.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        And also to destroy or remove something such as the 86-64 movement in Louisville that wants to remove I-64 through downtown.

        1. BigT   2 months ago

          That’s not a crime, nor is it a crime to say “86 Chuck Schumer” b-c he’s not POTUS. 86 the Prez is a crime.

          1. DaveKunard   1 month ago

            can even tell anymore if people are serious

      2. arpiniant1   2 months ago

        Baloney

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Damn. Refuted that very well.

          You asked for a publicly popular definition. Now you deny it exists.

          Such an intellectual you are.

          1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

            Jesse, he used the ‘baloney’ refutation. That ends the argument right there.

            1. CE   1 month ago

              Don't you have to spell it "bologna" for it to have argument-ending authority?

        2. DesigNate   2 months ago

          “Beginning about 100 years ago, food servers and bartenders used a code of numbers to save time when communicating orders.”

          “It wasn’t until the 1970s, according to Cassell’s Dictionary of Slang, that the term evolved to signify murder.”

          It’s only been associated with the idea for half of the time that it’s been in the lexicon of American slang, but sure, nobody’s heard of it used as such.

        3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          No that is a cured meat that originated in the ittalian region.

      3. MasterThief   2 months ago

        I worked in restaurants too long. There it just means we're out of an item. I'm not ignorant to how it is used in a political sense nor am I dumb enough to miss how different the context and insinuation is between Gaetz and Comey's usage.

      4. Mockamodo   2 months ago

        I'm 65 years old and have heard the phrase all my life, NEVER to mean to kill someone . It comes from the restaurant/bar industry, it means tell people you can't give them that, generally because we're out of it. Some twerp on 4chan posted that it means murder and everyone fell for it, now they think that's most common meaning and what it's always meant. It reminds me of the OK thing, it's a white supremacy dog whistle. It also reminds me of the democrats insisting that those brochures with bullseyes over opponents faces really was a call to assassinate those people. This is total garbage and shows the right is no more rational than the left.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          Tell me you've never watched a mobster movie...

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          I do love the "this is true because personal ignorance" type of argumentation. The term had been used in many movies to mean kill.

        3. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          No, it shows how the left should be treated the way they treat us.

          1. DaveKunard   1 month ago

            "us". "the left?" So you're admitting that your interpretations and reactions are based on tribal partisan grievances? This is supposed to be a libertarian site. In theory, people interested in libertarianism are for individual rights, limited government, and against authoritarianism.

            If you ( and most of the posters here) don't care about that stuff and just want to vent partisan rage, why here? You seem to identify libertarian arguments as "the left." Why do you think Reason would be a partisan pro trump Magazine? Does anyone understand that there are beliefs and principles that aren't team sports? Why does it matter what political party people are associated with? Would you be ok with this if it was being done by the other party for the same reasons?

            This site used to have commenters who shared libertarian values. Why has it become loyalty to Trump and MAGA and authoritarianism in support of that?

            Do you think Trump is a libertarian? How would anything he's doing other then empowering to Musk to cut funding be remotely libertarian?

        4. CE   1 month ago

          So "86 an item" means "kill orders for that item" then.

          1. Zeb   1 month ago

            Yes. And "kill" in that context, means "stop taking".

      5. DenverJ   1 month ago

        Well, if the Urban Dictionary says something, it must be true.

      6. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

        86'd from a bar means cut off and kicked out from being drunk usually from drinking 86 proof liquor. Once the liver gets to 86% destroyed it begins to fail in function.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Please show up when you find a second brain cell.
      Fuck off and die, asshole.

    5. damikesc   2 months ago

      If you ever worked at any level at any restaurant, it is an exceptionally common term.

      1. BigT   2 months ago

        That was derived from gangster slang.

        1. Zeb   1 month ago

          There doesn't seem to be a lot of agreement on that. Most sources I've seen say it originated in restaurant slang.

  4. Ram0166   2 months ago

    This is about giving it back to the left. Every one of them deserves to be treated with the exact same faux outrage they have heaping onto us for decades. I can’t believe how seriously you left libertarians take everything. There’s really not much difference between you guys and Democrats.

    1. Mockamodo   2 months ago

      I'm a right leaning L, support Trump 100%, and I think it's total garbage and just shows that the right is no better than the left. Some twerp on 4chan posted that it means murder and everyone fell for it, now they think that's most common meaning and what it's always meant. It reminds me of the OK thing, it's a white supremacy dog whistle. It also reminds me of the democrats insisting that those brochures with bullseyes over opponents faces really was a call to assassinate those people. I don't think R's are doing themselves a favor with this one, but half the nation seems to be idiots and most of the rest are morons.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Why do you keep bringing up 4chan? Wiki points to the 70s in link below.

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          4chan goes way back!

      2. BigT   2 months ago

        You must be a naive child. 86 has meant to kill for my entire life - I’m 72.

        1. DenverJ   1 month ago

          Might be regional. I'm 54 and this is the first time I've heard of it meaning murder.

          1. Zeb   1 month ago

            Same here. In my experience it means to kick someone out, most commonly.

  5. Carsos   2 months ago

    Nothing I have read suggests that Comey himself arranged the shells. Investigating/prosecuting him for publicly spreading the image is much like the prosecutions of Julian Assange who publicized information that he did not himself create.

    1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

      Not really.

      1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

        How’s your great uncle doing?

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          Better than you if you don’t keep your head down and shut up.

          Learn your place, pinko faggot.

    2. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      I accept a decade of house arrest as appropriate.

      1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

        SQRLSY’s house………

    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Comey has an awkward history of finding liberal messages involving shells.

      This isn't his first time.

      1. BigT   2 months ago

        Link?

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      If Comey is exiled to Russia I'm totally cool with that. I'm sure president AOC, my favorite big booty Latina, will grant him a pardon for any conceivable crimes he may have committed until his last breath whenever that may occur.

    5. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      Nothing I have read suggests that Comey himself arranged the shells.

      HE JUST HAPPENED TO COME ACROSS THE SHELLS, AND THOUGHT IT WAS NEAT!!! TOTAL ACCIDENT!!

      Retard.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        So many random political shells he has come across per his Twitter.

  6. rferris   2 months ago

    So, the former head of the FBI post a meme that essentially says "kill Donald Trump" and it is protected speech and NOT a call to violence from a national figure????

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      Of course, but we talk about woodchippers a few years ago, and the FBI starts asking for names from the commentariat.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        call to violence from a national figure

        I thought this was a reference to being impeached and/or imprisoned for "peacefully and patriotically march to the Capital".

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Pretty sure the new Reason would give us up in a heartbeat and pretend it never happened.

      3. damikesc   2 months ago

        Out of curiosity, how much of a role did Comey play in that? I am fairly sure he was deeply involved.

      4. rbike   2 months ago

        Vermeer makes s nice one. No tariffs. Be sure to get the diesel version though.

        1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

          You hate people like me for no reason other than your Roman pedo enabling pope tells you to. We are fucking fed up with it. We didn’t do shit to you. We just want you country bumpkins out in the sticks to leave us alone and stop forcing your pedo beliefs on us, but you have been trying to eliminate us for decades. You started the war you papist fucking bigot.

          You aren’t fooling anyone you redneck, papist shitbag. You CHOOSE to belong to the largest pedo organization on earth. You believe a cracker can magically turn into a guy who has been dead for 2000 years.

          You need to accept you are inferior to real Americans like me and shut the fuck up.

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

            Hey Kar got a new sock!

            1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

              His new sock is the name of the serial killer who murdered my great uncle. Which is why he chose it.

              Democrats have so much class.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                Just looked up the guy's Wiki page as I've never heard of him until now. Sentenced to death in 1976, and again in 1981 for a separate murder while in prison, he's still on death row in Idaho.

                1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                  Correct. He is currently the longest serving member of death row. Coincidentally, it’s pinko faggots like KAR that keep this guy from getting executed.

                  1. 5.56   1 month ago

                    Right-wing garbage equipped with rage over their inferior genetics and anatomical shortcomings, compensating with fantasies about bearded individuals in the sky, may be major contributors in the creation of individuals like Thomas Creech. I think you killed your great uncle.

                  2. 5.56   1 month ago

                    Make space for more viable, more educated, more modern, better Americans. Accept your fate. Accept your replacement. It will happen against your will.

          2. Ersatz   2 months ago

            You keep drinking more poison in the hopes that it kills your enemies

    2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      "Hang Mike Pence"... For his CRIMES of SNOT violating the USA Cunts-Tits-Tuition; Per the CUMMANDS of Dear Orange Leader!!! (Trumpanzees Gone Apeshit had a make-shit gallows all ready to go, BTW.)

      Shit's OK when MY team does shit!!!

      ("Execute General Milley" too, while we're about tit all. https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/28/politics/milley-donald-trump-execution-comment ... Is a trial before-hand even needed any more, in the days of torture chambers in El Salvador?)

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        That never happened, you sociopath, and you know it.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      It depends on what the definition of is is.

    4. MasterThief   2 months ago

      I'd say it doesn't fall under protected speech, but he could rely on ambiguity to beat any charges if someone chose to pursue them. Tbh, the left publicly says this kinda shit in public all the time. It's worse considering his position. He probably earned himself a less than friendly interview for this.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Ironically his latest book is the government going after a far right influencer making vague online threats. Not even a joke.

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          So this is a case of retardation imitating art?

    5. Mockamodo   2 months ago

      This reminds me of the democrats insisting that those brochures with bullseyes over opponents faces really was a call to assassinate those people. I'm 65 and heard the phrase "86 it" all my life, until now I've never heard of it being used to mean kill someone.

      1. BigT   2 months ago

        Living in a cave, are you?

    6. Anastasia Beaverhausen   2 months ago

      He's no longer a national figure as he is no longer the head of the FBI.

      1. Ersatz   2 months ago

        Yeah - and we all know that when you end your job you never have contacts remaining at your former place of employment. And that when you are the head of a politicized organization, all your partisan followers immediately end their fealty.

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

          An average person who did what comey did would get awoken by a flash bang.

  7. mad.casual   2 months ago

    So, back in the day, while many of the on-ramps to the information superhighway were still under construction it was widely circulated or understood (others may more rightly regard it as 'urban legend') that the one thing you couldn't generally do or say was threats on the President's life. By and large, everything else was fair game because your ISP could/would rightly tell local cops to fuck off without a warrant detailing the required information (which local PDs didn't generally know how to generate anyway). Even bomb threats and threats on lives were spurious as, information transfer was asynchronous such that a bomb threat on the internet might not get read until everyone had already gone home and unless someone had specifically given your name and address and *then* you threatened them, any threats were purely virtual.

    Threats to the President were the one thing that would/could invoke the SS and/or FBI; the highest level of law enforcement that could bring the assets to bear to find you for making threats to a specific person at a specific residence.

    You could tell someone you were going to tie up their mother and make a donkey rape her because she divorced and started running through black men, complete with pictures of donkey porn, but you didn't mess around threatening The President's life.

    1. BigT   2 months ago

      It’s still a crime.

  8. AT   2 months ago

    A lot of conservatives are falling prey to the same snowflakery they criticize.

    Yea, but here's the thing - you don't criticize the snowflakery any time WE do. In fact, you go to bat for it.

    So, which is it Billy - you're for or against snowflakery?

    Or, is your opinion of snowflakery (D)ependent on something other than its snowflakery?

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      This reaction is literally to hold the left tot heir own standards. Nothing more.

      Reason doesn't like equal standards in politics.

    2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

      Just a reminder: we have you Nazi, pedo enabling traitors outnumbered and outgunned.

      You need to accept it’s your fault you live in a rural shithole AND LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE!!!! stop trying to force your pedo-loving beliefs on us.

      1. AT   2 months ago

        Oh, I see KAR has yet another new name.

        I'm surprised you haven't been dragged from a truck hitch yet. Really. I'm genuinely surprised.

        Guess folks on the right are a little more tolerant and a lot less quick to violence than you types are, huh.

        Your blue city - your echo chamber - is your prison. We're not going to free you from it. You will rot and die in it.

        1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

          https://apnews.com/article/new-pope-leo-sex-abuse-cases-catholic-church-ee0b409fbf320a3382af03bc0ecc9561

          No I haven’t been dragged from a truck.

          Because I actually try to STOP SEX ABUSE!!!

          Repeat after me:

          “it was wrong for the Catholic Church to elect Joseph Ratzinger as pope.”

          Joseph Ratzinger was a hitler youth who protected pedos.

          Until you say that, you’re going to be on the hitlist of people who actually care about child sex abuse. And on a nazihunter hitlist.

          1. AT   2 months ago

            No I haven’t been dragged from a truck.

            Yet.

            1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

              Repeat after me:

              “it was wrong for the Catholic Church to elect Joseph Ratzinger as pope.”

              The American public hates child molesters.

              The time is running out for you to admit YOU CHOOSE to belong to the largest child fucking organization on earth.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                Fuck off, KAR.

              2. damikesc   2 months ago

                "Mute user"

                ....yeah, think I will do that.

                1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                  Ok boomer. You’re a racist, treasonous shitbag also.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                    Speak for yourself, Mr. Classless.

                    1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      Sorry, I didn’t realize you were such a snowflake.

                      With all the bigoted shit you say you will have to forgive me. I didn’t realize you’re a sensitive little bitch.

            2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60070132

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/01/01/how-nazi-germany-loomed-over-pope-benedicts-childhood/

              Repeat after me you backwards Nazi, pedo enabler:

              “it was wrong for the Catholic Church to elect Joseph Ratzinger as pope.”

              Until you say that you have a target on your back from patriotic Americans like me who are trying to stop child sex abuse.

              We have you outnumbered and outgunned you Nazi pedo enabler.

              1. Ersatz   2 months ago

                Show us on the doll where the pope touched you...

              2. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

                Wow, a Soros-lover suddenly doesn’t like Nazis.

                1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                  Joseph Ratzinger was a Hitler youth member.

                  But for pointing that out I’m the “Nazi.”

                  You hicks can’t be reasoned with. You are leaving us no choice.

        2. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          KAR is a classy guy. ‘Thomas Creech’ is a serial killer, currently incarcerated in Idaho, and the longest serving member of death row. And it appears he picked that name because Creech murdered my great uncle (among many others) prior to his capture.

          This is considered classy and witty by a democrat like KAR. I initially suspected Shrike, mainly because KAR is such a forgettable lower echelon democrat, but then he started raving about republicans committing treason. Which is one of the more idiotic things that the faggot likes to rave about.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            And it appears he picked that name because Creech murdered my great uncle

            Really?! That's is world class trolling, but a compliment to you to attract such attention, I guess. I am pleased just to get personalized trolling insults like "Mike" or "Sealion" but you got a personally directed, scumbag-level-dedicated-troll-username insult. You're up 1 respect level for me for such an achievement.

            How would KAR know that about your uncle though?

            1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

              He’s mentioned it a half a dozen times or so.

              Every other comment by him is “we need to kill all the democrats” or “kill all the marxists” or something like that. The MAGA traitors are so fucking stupid they think anyone to the left of Mike Lee is a Marxist. He’s admitted to knowing domestic terrorists. He’s a treasonous shitbag.

              1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

                Stop listening to the voices in your head, they’re dumb.

          2. AT   2 months ago

            He also admitted that he was molested by a priest (likely in the rural community he grew up in, which is an inference on my part) when he was a little boy, which really messed him up. As a coping method, he hit his teens then decided to be gay and was groomed onto the NAMBLA train and eventually fell into prostituting for older men.

            All three of his hot-button subjects (LGBT Pedo - which he defends to ludicrous degrees, including literal child rape by the rainbow people; The Church - which he despises; and rural communities - which he seems to reference more than a normal person would) trace back to that. The problem is that he's so messed up by his trauma that it's created a kind of cognitive dissonance. He'll defend gay pedophiles because, in his own experience, he gave himself up voluntarily to them. That's "Good Pedophilia" in his book. He'll then turn around and rail against Jesus Himself because his fractured psyche regards what happened to him as a boy drove him over a ledge. That's "Bad Pedophilia" in his book.

            He's actually a really interesting case study. But someone needs to wash his mouth out with soap. (And not just because he's got male genitalia on his breath.)

            1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

              “He also admitted that he was molested by a priest (likely in the rural community he grew up in, which is an inference on my part) when he was a little boy, which really messed him up. As a coping method, he hit his teens then decided to be gay and was groomed onto the NAMBLA train and eventually fell into prostituting for older men”

              Please cite where I said anything like that ever.

              I lived in Utah where I was surrounded by “holier than thou” types like you that CHOOSE to belong to a church started by a child fucking fraud. Once I saw the damage Bible thumpers like you do it’s not hard to start doing research and seeing a huge chunk of “Christians” are child fuckers or enablers.

              Real Americans don’t care if you get god damn fucking offended when we call you pedo enablers out. You CHOOSE to belong to the largest child fucking organization on earth. You are choosing to get your head cut off by blaming LGTB people for your church’s crimes.

              Remember: we have you outnumbered and outgunned. If you don’t shut the fuck up and stop harming kids you are leaving real Americans like me no choice but to eliminate you.

              1. AT   2 months ago

                Language.

                You CHOOSE to belong to the largest child fucking organization on earth.

                See, again with the projection. You're the LGBT Pedo around here, pal. You told us all about your background. Maybe without having intended to, but in your rage-fueled blustering, you gave it all up. The abuse, the grooming, the prostitution, all of which led to the sheer resentment that you just take out on internet randos since you have literally nowhere else to direct it.

                You're still just the sad, tragic, traumatized little boy you were back then. You probably still literally feel it in your rear end every time you start typing, don't you. And because you never got any real help (I'm guessing your parents never really cared about you) - because you instead allowed yourself to be groomed and exploited by the rainbow cult (at which point your parents disowned you completely) - your fractured psyche has you lashing out at the source of Good and Truth and Beauty in the world, Jesus Christ, while defending the very pedophile LGBT Pedos and their enablers out of some twisted sense of "justice" that other kids "deserve" the same thing that happened to you.

                You're sick, Kar. And I wish I could help you. But it's clear you don't want it, and you're going to continue down this broken path. It leads to a truck hitch, my friend. You're practically begging for it.

                1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                  Please cite any of that?

                  We will wait: you can’t because it’s lies by an inbred, pathetic, INSANE papist.

                  Repeat after me:

                  “It was wrong for the Catholic Church to elect Joseph Ratzinger as pope because he was a pedo enabling Nazi.”

                  Until you do that you are A PEDO ENABLING NAZI AND REAL AMERICANS LIKE ME ARE GOING TO CUT YOUR GOD DAMN ROMAN HEAD OFF.

                  1. AT   2 months ago

                    Dude, I don't catalog your existence.

                    You've made this clear a million and one times.

                    You're the victim of sex abuse, disinterested parents, and LGBT prostitution. EVERY SINGLE REGULAR AT REASON KNOWS THIS ABOUT YOU.

                    It's why you keep changing your name, for pete's sake.

                    You're ignoring your own trauma and taking it out on the Church - and in particular, Pope Benedict, for no rational reason whatsoever.

                    It's sad, Kar. You can get help. I don't know why you refuse it. I can only assume it's the groomed brainwashing.

                    1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      “ You're the victim of sex abuse, disinterested parents, and LGBT prostitution. EVERY SINGLE REGULAR AT REASON KNOWS THIS ABOUT YOU.”

                      I have never said anything like that. You are a fucking liar.

                      Some Christian you are:
                      “Thou shall not bear false witness….”

                      Please stop posting lies about me. If you can cite me saying ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT I will shut up.

                      You’re fucking crazy dude. I have never, ever posted anything like that.

                      You also believe a cracker can magically transform into a man who has been dead for 2000 years.

                      Stop telling others to seek help, and just shut up. Im not gonna tell you to seek help because you are too far gone.

                      You are bat shit crazy dude, and please stay away from children.

                    2. AT   2 months ago

                      Language.

                      I have never said anything like that.

                      Yes you have. Ask any regular. We all remember when you went bananas, overshared, and then changed your username. You KEEP changing your username in an attempt to hide from your confession - like we're not going to IMMEDIATELY tell it's you, like I did right here in this thread.

                      You were raped as a child. By a priest. In a rural community. With parents that disowned you when you turned to gay prostitution.

                      LITERALLY EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THIS ABOUT YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE SHARED YOUR STORY.

                      Just let us help you! Why are you so obstinate in the face of so many people - internet randos who you'll never have to see face-to-face even - willing to reach their hands out in compassion?

                      Put an end to your self-loathing. We're here to help.

                    3. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      “Yes you have. Ask any regular. We all remember when you went bananas, overshared, and then changed your username.”

                      Please cite or find a “regular” to back you up. If you can. I will stop posting on here.

                      ”…You KEEP changing your username in an attempt to hide from your confession - like we're not going to IMMEDIATELY tell it's you, like I did right here in this thread.”

                      Yes I change it, but lots of people do on here. I’m not trying to hide.

                      The things you are accusing me of saying are extremely serious. They involve child sex abuse. PLEASE CITE ME SAYING WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING I SAID OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!

                    4. AT   1 month ago

                      Yes I change it, but lots of people do on here. I’m not trying to hide.

                      Unless it's from a priest or your parents, amirite lol.

                      The things you are accusing me of saying are extremely serious. They involve child sex abuse.

                      And yet, you never seem to want to talk about LGBT Pedo.

                    5. Thomas Creech   1 month ago

                      You refuse to acknowledge or accept that you are Catholic pedo.

                      You also have presented zero evidence of your bigoted claims. Some of them are extremely disgusting.

                      If anyone is projecting it’s you.

                      Repeat after me:

                      “It was wrong for the Catholic Church to elect Joseph Ratzinger as pope because he was a pedo enabling Nazi.”

                    6. AT   1 month ago

                      You refuse to acknowledge or accept that you are Catholic pedo.

                      Not a thing. Unlike LGBT Pedo.

                      You keep raging against the Church even though pedophilia there is both condemned and those engaged in it held accountable.

                      But you refuse to rage against the LGBT Peod, in where pedophilia is a core tenet and supported, defended, and encouraged.

                      At worst, the Catholics have the occasional bad actors whose actions receive nothing but condemnation. At best, the LGBT Pedo are outright grooming predators of children. Which you've experienced firsthand. Both of them. And it's celebrated as "DiVerSity!"

                      Are you for or against child molestation?

                      If you're against, then let's hear your outright condemnation and desire for the sheer destruction of the following, in order:

                      1) The LGBT Pedo.
                      2) The sex trade.
                      3) Islam.
                      ...
                      164) The Church.

                      Start calling out the major abusers, and maybe people will start taking the lesser ones seriously as well. But when you support LGBT Pedo while at the same time condemning the Church, you're telegraphing that your problem isn't with pedophilia (which, obviously - because you clearly support it). That's just the smokescreen for your impotent rage against God.

                      Which, I mean really. Grow up.

            2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

              Repeat after me:
              “It was wrong for the Catholic Church to elect Joseph Ratzinger as pope because he was a pedo enabling Nazi.”

              Until you do that you are exactly what you accuse me of being.

              1. AT   2 months ago

                You don't actually understand how a pope becomes a pope, do you. The fact that you used the term "election" shows everyone your patent ignorance.

                1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                  Forgive me, I’m not a papist. My allegiance is to the United States and it’s constitution, so I don’t know all the finer details about how the Roman church selects the next antichrist.

                  It is my understanding there is a conclave that chooses who the pope is. It is also my understanding that you CHOOSE to belong to the Roman church…. The biggest childfucking organization on earth.

                  1. AT   1 month ago

                    Language.

                    Well, thanks for admitting your ignorance. It also clears up why you're so ignorant on the issue of pedophilia. You seem to think it's the Church who's the biggest offender - clearly and conveniently ignoring the Big Three:

                    1. LGBT Pedo.
                    2. The sex trade (looking at you ENB).
                    3. Islam.

                    You let me know when you're ready to talk about that, and make sure you come into the conversation like a big boy - instead of just jibbering insults and profanity any time anyone calls you on your nonsense.

                    1. Thomas Creech   1 month ago

                      I have posted ample evidence here several times that you have refused to acknowledge.

                      Roman church sex abuse is quite well known in America. A cursory internet search would reveal ample evidence. You just refuse to acknowledge the truth.

                      This is anecdotal, but every excatholic I’ve talked to say the church’s abuse problem is much, much worse than most people think. The media is hesitant to cover it because the horrific nature of it and fear of retaliation from the Roman church.

                      You have presented zero evidence of your claims about LGTBQ people. Not a goddamn fucking thing.

                      I’ll admit I’m stupid for arguing with you. You can’t reason with a brainwashed, hateful, simpleminded traitor like you.

                    2. AT   1 month ago

                      I have posted ample evidence here several times

                      Yes, I know. I've pointed it out many times. How you were raped by a priest. How your rural parents didn't care. How you fell into gay prostitution and were abused by dozens of sicko men ever since. How that became your identity. How that's warped your reality into defending ACTUAL pedophiles, while condemn your God and pretending that His Church hasn't condemned the behavior that's so badly damaged you.

                      You're a very broken human, Kar. We're offering you help. Stop fighting us.

                      The media is hesitant to cover it because the horrific nature of it and fear of retaliation from the Roman church.

                      Wow. That you literally just said that with a straight face.

                      But you're not beyond help, Kar. Take my hand, and stop asking for the truck hitch.

                      I’ll admit I’m stupid for arguing with you.

                      And you're going to keep doing it, aren't you.

                      If you're not going to let normal people help you, the second-best thing you can do is get back into the closet.

                      But if you rape any kids along the way, truck hitch.

        3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          "Oh, I see KAR has yet another new name."

          It's funny how grey boxes sometimes hide usernames I've never heard of before. Some people are too stupid to realize that changing the text in the username field doesn't change the assigned userid?

          This userid (1162436) was first muted by me when it was "KARtikeya".

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

            Well, KAR is a retard.

            1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

              You’re a traitor

              1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

                Jesus, you make sarc look good.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                You just couldn't help but out yourself, could you, retard?

                1. 5.56   1 month ago

                  Right-wing rejects seem to think that being found out by them and them pointing fingers is somehow a very threatening experience to modern, better Americans; when in reality we are categorically indifferent to them and above their hurt feelings, insecurities and uncompetitive, obsolete CVs. I dont think KAR ever cared to hide their account, they just changed their name to trigger the infantile and inviable, who think finding out and pointing fingers matters to more developed individuals. And as evidenced by a plethora of threads filled with defensive, impotent whinging, yes, the inviable have been successfully triggered.

          2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

            Ok Boomer.

            1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

              Can I use that insult? It’s very clever and topical.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

              Whatever.

      2. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

        No faggot, WE have all the guns. And you Nancy boys can’t fight for shit. Turns out being limp wristed bet male soul yes like this doesn’t make for much physical, prowess……

        https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/12/opinion-rich-lowry-obamacare-affordable-care-act-pajama-boy-an-insufferable-man-child-101304/

        The poster child for democrat males.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      It's also, once again, the same, dishonest "One side pre-emptively complained when *they* gave *someone else* a papercut, the other side in a separate incident complained about being stabbed by the people attacking them, when really it was more of a small cut. BOAF SIDEZ IZ SNOEFLAYKS!"

      Entire internet careers made posting news and incidents of "He misgendered me!", "Local college admins start protest against local bakery for 'alleging' black students were thieves.", and "In an internally solicited memo an employee asserted that some women might be better at UI/UX design while some men might be better at backend programming!"

      ...While on the other side, a bullet goes right past The President's head and the person behind him gets killed because the Secret Service doesn't do well with angles between 0-10 degrees and the former FBI director, who was part of a campaign to spy on him as a candidate, called for him to be 'done away with'.

      I don't disagree that a/the '86ing' tweet could be pretty trivial, I've certainly posted far more egregious things online. That said, I've never been in charge of the deep state that either allowed Russians to steal the election or spied on a political campaign and fabricated a story about how Russians stole the election either.

  9. XM   2 months ago

    (1) Trump was twice a target of assassination attempts.
    (2) This is trump’s final term. Barring impeachment, how does one “get rid” of Trump?

    Bin Laden, much like krampus and Hamas, is not a president of America and objectively detestable. Wishing them death requires no action from the government. When a former fbi director and an avowed political foe of the president makes that statement, you bet secret service had to get it involved.

    Context matters, even in equivalency games. Removal of joe Biden due to his mental decline was hot topic. To 86 the guy meant the 25th amendment. To 86 a man who nearly killed twice is clear in its implication.

    You can get investigated for 1A protected speech. If Comey was a garbage man the FBI might have paid him a visit. Whether he actually belongs in jail would require proof.

    It’s not “snowflakery”to get outraged over death threats to a president or the Hamas youth chanting for the death of entire people. It’s snowflake to get upset over a white woman wearing Afro hair or dreadlocks. Would you adapt such matter of fact tone if some maga guy posted “86 the illegal immigrants and the dems who stormed the ice detention center”?

  10. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Only at reason can "go march peacefully" mean Insurrection whole 8647 isn't a threat.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      It really is astounding to think about. It really is an Weimar-esque authoritarian coup and they're part of it.

      A thousand people arrested and held for an actual mostly peaceful protest vs. open burning and looting in the streets of a "mostly peaceful" protest where favorable activist are released without charge and there are open calls kill their political opposition, burning them in effigy before they even take office?

      Two years of known, documented silencing and shadowbanning anyone asking "Hey, why are we all standing 6 ft. apart?" out loud followed by 4 yrs. of known, documented silencing of anyone asking "Hey, wouldn't a discarded laptop have evidence of who was meeting with the President's family/handlers and when?" and "Are we really sure this guy is still capable of overseeing his own breakfast, let alone the country (and if he's not, whom, that wasn't specifically elected, is)?"

      And Reason takes the side of the former FBI director and Brownshirts because they're worried that Free Speech might die if former, unelected deep state admins can't obliquely threaten The President?

      You don't even have to indulge in the fullest extent of any conspiracy theory, even just a fraction of the known and obvious facts is sufficient to see that a member of Reasons team of B-tards is equating a snowflake in a blizzard with a snowflake in a desert.

  11. Doug Heffernan   2 months ago

    Any apparent inconsistency is entirely consistent with maga age conservatism. It's only snowflake-ism when the wrong team is offended. Any outrage is entirely bona fide when the offense is taken by team maga. That comes with being god's chosen people.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Liberals love one sided application of their own set of rules and abuses of office.

      The thing you liberals are most scared of is being held to your own standards.

      1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

        Well, that and being rounded up by American patriots and deposited into landfills.

    2. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      We didn't make the new rules Doug - you did. But these are the new rules.

    3. Neutral not Neutered   1 month ago

      The projecting over the last couple of decades failed, time to find a different gold paved road to hell to spew your hate and regurgitate your nonsense. Your church of climate change and feigned virtue has hit rock bottom. I am sure Rachel, Morning Joe or The View will send the new catch phrases your way soon! You will be up to date shortly with the new direction of crisis, fear mongering and hate to ease your worried mind. Remember, you don't have to look back with Schumer by your side moving forward into the Abyss.

  12. Bruce   2 months ago

    It would be nice to know where Comey was getting the money to buy $3 million houses all cash, before he'd started publishing books and speaking.

    https://brucemajors.substack.com/p/james-comey-says-cash-is-king

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Comeu has a lot of shady money making deals despite nobody actually wanting to hear from him.

      https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/11/james-comey-dalio-bridgewater-the-fund

      A look before the post.

      https://www.newsweek.com/james-comey-net-worth-salary-fbi-director-trump-fired-pay-606406

      1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

        Trump fired Comey…only to replace him with Wray!?!! And because he fired Comey Trump’s own appointee, Rodentstain, appointed Mueller!! Lololololol!!!!

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

          Trump stopped listening to the blob's recommendations since then, which is why you're so desperately butthurt now.

        2. Ersatz   2 months ago

          Yeah... the deep-state sure isn't a thing, is it?

          Your statement is almost de facto proof of a deep-state.

    2. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

      He should be investigated until they find something. Because “democrats did it first”.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        They really need to raid his wife's closet.

        Ironically Comey already admitted to taking classified information home and nothing happened to him.

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          What’s the statute of limitations on that? Either way, I’m sure there’s plenty of other things Comey can be credibly charged with.

      2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

        How’s your great uncle doing?

  13. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

    They can never resist chasing the squirrel.

    1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

      I can. I’ve had SQRLSY muted for a few years now. Although the real goal should be to euthanize it.

      I suggest using fire.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        What did the fire do to you?

        Drown in acid, barrel, sink.

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          Or we could do both. Light it up with a flame thrower. Here’s a video of a wild SQRLSY being burned…..

          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KPKj23QtETw

          Just take whatever is left and drown it in a barrel of acid. Seal the barrel. Encase it in concrete, and have Elon put it on one of his rockets. The rocket will be fired directly at the sun.

          The end.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Sqrsly would somehow survive.

          2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

            How’s your great uncle doing?

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              You seem to be looking for a date.

              1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                How’s that “2020 election fraud” evidence coming?

                It’s gonna feel so good in 2026 to watch you traitors swinging from the gallows

                1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                  Is that the subject of your next work of democrat fan fiction? Your kind had best keep their heads down and do what you’re told. McCarthyism has already started to return, and it’s going to get really fucking bad for you uppity democrats.

                  But then, being thrown in a landfill with a large number of your fellow travelers is a good result for an ‘induhvidual’, such as yourself.

                  1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                    Please show me the “2020 election fraud” evidence you traitorous hick!

                    1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                      Pretty sure you meant that for Jesse.

                    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                      So you can ignore it again? How about i start with the court cases judges ruled regarding illegal election changes? Or the cases if convicted mail in ballots fraud?

                      Only the retarded religious left stopp believes the cleanest election ever narrative.

                    3. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      No only inbred, treasonous, Putin loving racists like you believe the stolen election fairy tale.

                      Enjoy swinging from the gallows you fucking traitor.

                2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                  There is plenty of evidence that the religious left pretends doesn't exist. And many more examples since then that the retarded religious left pretends didn't exist.

                  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            2. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

              He’s been dead for about 50 years. Which you obviously know. Although what you don’t know is that your pathetic attempt to incite me is ineffective. Which one of our leftist faggot posters are you?

              Never mind, we both know you’re too big of a cowardly faggot cunt to say.

              1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                I’m KAR, you stupid traitor hick.

                1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                  I actually worked that out you dumb cunt. The use of ‘traitor’ talk is particular to you. Most of the other Marxist filth here don’t use that verbiage.

                  Now that we have that out of the way, are you finally, ready to kill yourself? Your life has no value, and if you wait until republican patriots deal with you, it’s likely you will be made to suffer for a long time (as you deserve). So since you’re a coward, take the coward’s way out.

                  You know I’m right.

                  1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                    “Der der, I hate my intellectual betters because I’m too inbred and stupid to admit I’m responsible for my life sucking.” - stupid fucker in Spokane

                    1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                      I have no ‘intellectual betters’ among democratkind. Now go commit suicide.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Same. But for some reason Reason logs me off every time I leave or refresh the page lately and on occasion I'm confronted by the sqirl and immediately reminded why I put it in a gray box.

  14. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    So Reason can't find the space to report on Trump's EO that constrains federal agencies from criminally prosecuting the citizenry and seeks to restore mens rea. I think Jesse has posted it for at least the last three days. And his historic trip to the middle east preaching commerce and peace. But they have unlimited space to defend James Comey? Just eat shit you fucking assholes. This is why I don't call myself a libertarian anymore.

    1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

      You were a libertarian because it allowed you to be a racist without saying you are a racist…thanks to Trump you can now be a racist out in the open! 😉

      1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

        You aren’t even trying.

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          Kill it.

          1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

            How’s your great uncle doing?

            1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

              *Yawn*

              1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                Move to Idaho you fucking hillbilly

                1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                  You’re a silly faggot. Too bad we can’t meet. I’m sure I could offer you quite an education in a very short time. And who knows? You might even live through it.

                  1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                    If I’m ever in Spokane I’ll let you know. Or you can come west of the Cascades and get your treasonous head cut off

                    1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                      You’re confused faggot. DEMOCRATS are traitors. I’m a war veteran and a patriot. You should kill your self now, but if you need some ‘assistance’ come on over.

                    2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      You took an oath to defend the Constitution but you admit to associating with domestic terrorists.

                      Enjoy swinging from the gallows traitor.

                    3. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                      I never associate with democrats. Only Americans. Now commit suicide.

                    4. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      No you admitted to knowing domestic terrorist Matt Shea.

                    5. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

                      Yes, the patriot Matt Shea. Something you can’t understand, because you’re only a democrat, and know only treason, and hatred for my constitutional republic. So die, you have no place here.

                    6. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      Maybe we are thinking of different Matt Sheas? I’m referring to the one who was not only removed from the Washington legislature but also the Washington Republican Party because he was aiding and abetting domestic terrorists.

                      https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/dec/19/rep-matt-shea-engaged-in-domestic-terrorism-during/

                      If you were referring to someone else than I’m sorry…

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Act Blue doesn't have the brightest employees.

          1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

            Nope. It makes me feel good inside when I think about how much suffering Trump’s presidency and continued success causes them.

            1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

              It’s not our fault you’re an inbred hillbilly whose great uncle got murdered

    2. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

      Reporting on those things doesn’t get the Koch bucks. And if Boehm, Sullum and Lancaster circle jerk to that, they will be flaccid.

      1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

        How’s your great uncle doing?

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          Hey fag, he’s still dead.

          1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

            If your great uncle was a traitor like you are then he’s a patriot

            1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

              Conservatives are intrinsically patriotic. Democrats are intrinsically treasonous, like you.

              1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

                The dems seem to want to do the civil war again.
                They’ll lose again of course.

                1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                  No you’re confused. I’m an American who has always denounced treasonous, racist southern vermin.

                  It’s your side that has been glorifying them for 150 years. It’s your side that complains about being “cancelled” now that we are finally tearing down monuments to treason.

                  It’s you that lost the first civil war. And if you don’t stop trying to force your treason on us you will lose the next one. We won’t make the same mistake as last time. You will all hang.

    3. MasterThief   2 months ago

      My principles haven't changed despite what the LP and Reason have done to destroy what "libertarian" means. I'll still use the term, but unfortunately it's more difficult to point to good places that explain things from that worldview.

    4. mad.casual   2 months ago

      This is why I don't call myself a libertarian anymore.

      I think that's the goal. Narratively, you're a part of Hayek's agrarian or labor class who is calling for a strongman to come to power and enforce the rules. Because, obviously, that's what Hayek meant. Not that TOP MEN seek to divide the citizenry as a means to an end, but that any time someone from a disfavored class invokes the idea that the laws aren't being enforced and their government isn't representing them, they're really trying to exterminate the Jews and/or ethnically cleanse "their" country.

  15. arpiniant1   2 months ago

    In February 2024, Matt Gaetz, then member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Florida's 1st congressional district, posted to Twitter:[24][25]

    "We’ve now 86’d:
    McCarthy
    McDaniel
    McConnell
    Better days are ahead for the Republican Party."

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Yes the evil Matt Gaetz left a trail of bleeding corpses in his wake. Oh wait....

    2. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

      In context, that refers to the results of changes in congressional leadership. Not a cryptic suggestion to murder anyone. Also, you democrats have already tried twice to assassinate Trump. So let’s not pretend these things are similar.

      Face it, democrats are murderous, soulless monsters. So admit you’re wrong, and beg our forgiveness.

      1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

        How’s your great uncle doing?

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          He’s still dead, fag. Figures you would be pro serial killer. You democrats are pro slavery, pro segregation, pro communist, pro fascist, pro infanticide. Pro child mutilation, pro child rape, pro election fraud, pro insurrection. Pro open borders, pro illegals alien Central American gangs, and so much more!

          So since you favor every other evil thing, why not favor serial murderers too? Eh, comrade?

          1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

            You just described your ancestors and compatriots.

            You have admitted to running in the same social circles as domestic terrorists.

            Either move to Idaho or face annihilation!

            You have given us no fucking choice! We are sick of you pedo enablers east of the cascades screwing with OUR CHILDREN!

            1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

              Hey fag, DEMOCRATS are domestic terrorists, and sponsors of domestic terrorism.

              This country isn’t yours. You aren’t even really American.

    3. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      In context it means they metaphorically murdered them - by kicking them out.

  16. arpiniant1   2 months ago

    fuckin snowflakes

    1. DesigNate   2 months ago

      I agree, you demshills ARE fucking snowflakes.

      1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

        Enjoy swinging from the gallows you fucking TRAITOR

  17. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

    86 journalists.

  18. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    According to Humpty Dumpty, "86" means "to kill" when used by democrats, and means "to peacefully remove from a political position" when used by republicans.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Cite?

      Even wiki hasn't gone with that narrative yet.

      According to Cassell's Dictionary of Slang, "to 86" also means "to kill, to murder;

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_(term)

      1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

        "When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          I agree that is how democrats act. Especially when their terminology is called out.

          But as a former FBI director, I doubt he didn't know the different definitions of the term.

          1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

            He should be extensively questioned without counsel and then they should run up a long list of top process crimes. Then make sure it goes in front of a republican judge in a solid conservative jurisdiction.

            If it was good enough for General Flynn, it’s good enough for Comey.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      Welcome to the Reason comments where you will learn that just making up bullshit won't work.

    3. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      Maybe that's because the Democrats actually tried to kill their political opponent.

      1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

        Twice, less than year ago.

  19. SIV   2 months ago

    "86 the potatoes au gratin and the POTUS"!

  20. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

    "Imagine saying 20 years ago 'I hope Bin Laden is killed,'" said Conor Fitzpatrick, an attorney at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, a nonprofit dedicated to First Amendment issues."

    Yeah because Bin Laden and a sitting president are the same thing.

    Imagine what Binion and Conor Fitzpatrick would say if Kash Patel tweeted "86 Obama". They'd shit their pants with rage, the fucking liars.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Sullim said march peacefully and patriotic ally meant kill congress.

      1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

        So do we think ‘Thomas Creech’ is Shrike? Or maybe Sarc?

        Either way, I’ve clearly been too nice to them. That stops now.

        1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

          I’m KAR, you nazi fucking hick

        2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          When I first muted userid 1162436, which now pops up as Thomas Creech, it was "KARtikeya", which I assumed then was an undisguised sock of KAR.

          1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

            Ok Boomer

            1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

              Ok fag.

              1. AT   2 months ago

                The worst part with Kar, Otto - it's it's all projection with him.

                Every time he uses the term "racist" or "nazi" - he's talking about himself.

                The sexual abuse he suffered as a boy, coupled with his teenage prostitution by/for older men, really messed him up. He's one of the most self-loathing people you'll ever see, taking out all his hatred of himself on literally anyone who encounters him. He's the epitome of the Frankfurt School of thought. He only sees people in one of two ways: oppressor, and oppressed.

                He's the "oppressed," and literally everyone else is his "oppressor." It's why he lashes out the way he does. And he will invariably bite any hand that offers even the slightest amount of charity.

                A very, very broken and damaged soul. A redeemable one, still, but he hates himself too much for anyone to reach him.

                1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                  Please cite where I said anything like that.

                  You are the one who believes a cracker can magically transform into a dead guy. YOURE FUCKING INSANE. You are a danger to society! You CHOOSE to belong to the largest pedo organization on earth: the Roman church.

                  Shut the fuck up you crazy fucking pedo enabler or face annihilation.

                  We have you outnumbered and outgunned. And no one’s gonna complain if we torture you fucking pedos and pedo enablers.

                  1. AT   2 months ago

                    See what I mean? Total projection.

                    And I did cite to it.

                    And you're absolutely correct (but, language) - no one’s gonna complain if we torture you *** pedos and pedo enablers. Truck hitch time for the rainbow people.

                    1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      Please cite where I have said any of the things you are attributed to me?

                      You won’t because its make believe. Just like a crackers turning into Jesus.

                      Roman church sex abuse is well documented. There was a best picture academy award winning movie about it.

                      Do you even have TVs in your rural shithole? You are so out of touch with the average American. It would be funny, except you’re a pedo enabler.

                    2. AT   2 months ago

                      I did.

                      You're banging your head against the wall of reality. Just... stop.

                      Stop Kar. Stop and let us help you.

                    3. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      But you haven’t you stupid, sick, perverted fuck.

                      You are putting sick, perverted things in my mouth.

                      It’s creepy and disgusting.

                    4. AT   1 month ago

                      I can't with this level of projection. I mean, the phrasing lol.

                      Why is it that homosexuals like you are always so self-loathing.

                    5. Thomas Creech   1 month ago

                      Why is it that backwards, rural Bible humpers like you are so bigoted.

                      I have told you several times I’m not gay you stupid, backwards, bigoted hick.

                      You’re obviously just trying to screw with me, but it’s coming off as super creepy. Bigoted as well. The majority of the American public would be appalled by the bigoted, racist things you post here.

                    6. AT   1 month ago

                      You're the one talking about sick, perverted things in your mouth.

                      If that doesn't scream a long history of LGBT Pedo life and victimization... I mean, do you seriously think you're fooling anyone?

                      It's all just misplaced blame and projection. You're so messed up inside that you can't tell your left hand from your right hand anymore. It's sad, really - especially since you refuse to seek any help whatsoever.

                2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                  Repeat after me:
                  “It was wrong for the Catholic Church to elect Joseph Ratzinger as pope because he was a pedo enabling Nazi.”

                  Until you do that you are exactly what you accuse me of being.

                  1. AT   2 months ago

                    OK, so more of the puzzle is evidenced.

                    Let me guess - after he laicized priests involved in abuse cases, he missed the one that raped you, right? That's why you always zero in on him and only him, right?

                    Come on, you've already given up so many details about your sexual abuse and how it led to your LGBT Pedo. Just... finish the painting already.

                    1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      Repeat after me:

                      “It was wrong for the Catholic Church to elect Joseph Ratzinger as pope because he was a pedo enabling Nazi.”

                      It’s very fucking simple you racist, white trash hick.

                      Until you do that you are exactly what you accuse me of being.

                    2. AT   2 months ago

                      Language.

                      Repeat after me: "I need help. Please. Someone. Anyone."

                      People WILL help you, Kar. The Church especially. You just have to want to accept it. Are you willing to turn your life to Christ in pursuit of healing and redemption?

                    3. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      Why do I “need help?”
                      So far your reasons why are just a bunch of made up crap?
                      It makes a reasonable person think it’s you are the one who “needs help?”

                      But please, tell me why I “need help” that doesn’t include a bunch of crap you made up?

                      I’ll hold my tongue and not comment on your cracker god…

                    4. AT   2 months ago

                      Why do I “need help?”

                      That's the devil talking for you. Don't let him usurp your voice. You're in control, not him.

                      Yes, you've been raped and victimized. Yes, you've been the abused prey of the LGBT Pedo. Yes, you've got zero family structure to help stabilize you in times of need. We all understand how broken and abused you've been. You've told us your story, and it's tragic.

                      We want to help. Just take the hand. I know you don't trust it, I know you don't want to think it comes without strings attached.

                      It doesn't. Just take it.

                      The last thing I want in the world for you is to continue this path you've chosen that leads to a rope and a truck hitch. I can't force you off it. You need to choose it.

                      Please Kar, please choose it.

                    5. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                      “ Yes, you've been raped and victimized. Yes, you've been the abused prey of the LGBT Pedo. Yes, you've got zero family structure to help stabilize you in times of need. We all understand how broken and abused you've been. You've told us your story, and it's tragic.”

                      This is really creepy and sick dude. You are the one who really needs help.

                    6. AT   1 month ago

                      You can't get the help you need until you're willing to ask for it, Kar.

                      You'll never get past your days of sexual abuse, prostitution, and LGBT Pedo until you take the first step for yourself.

                    7. Thomas Creech   1 month ago

                      It’s obvious you’re just trolling me by posting such obvious lies. It’s really creepy btw.

                      You still refuse to accept you belong to a church that is infested with pedos.

                      Repeat after me:

                      “It was wrong for the Catholic Church to elect Joseph Ratzinger as pope because he was a pedo enabling Nazi.”

                  2. AT   1 month ago

                    Kar, just ask for the help you so desperately want.

    2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

      86 Mother’s Lament

      1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

        “86” to me has always meant getting kicked out of a bar or club.

        1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

          If you’re Shrike. Just remember, when the idiots that eu. This rag finish running it into the ground, and Daddy Koch’s money dries up, it won’t be worth all that much. And that’s when I come in and buy it. Then I can doxx your ass and make sure the cops, and your friends, family, and neighbors learn all about your kiddie porn hobby.

          1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

            Just remember you admitted to running in the same social circles as a domestic terrorist.

            You have three options:

            1.Shut the fuck up and accept you’re inferior fucking hicks.

            2.Move to Idaho.

            3.Get your treasonous head cut off.

            It’s very simple. We are sick of having to tolerate you hicks east of the cascades telling us how to live.

            1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

              Hey fag. You should hook up with Tony. I’m sure you cam get him to bottom you.

              1. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

                We are sick of you treasonous hicks east of the Cascades telling us how to live.

                We generally leave you alone, because we don’t want to associate with inbred, pro Russian vermin. Also, because it’s a shithole where you live. Other than hunting season, I avoid it like the plague.

                But you are leaving us no choice but to annihilate you.

        2. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

          Get kicked out of bars often sweetie?

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Yeah because Bin Laden and a sitting president are the same thing.

      This is *worse* than Sheldon Richman's "I fail to see the essential difference between Chris Kyle and Dylan Roof."

      Richman was an asshole propagandist popping off like a retard in the moment about a movie review and talking on behalf of movie goers against a soldier.

      Fitzpatrick is an attorney and activist with FIRE speaking directly to the last 10-20 yrs. of political history and is speaking on behalf of Deep State political party in favor of a former FBI director against the POTUS and the public that elected him. Richman's take was embarrassing. Fitzpatrick's take should cause everyone he represents now or potentially in the future to kick him square in the junk for poisoning the well against him/them.

      Once again, FIRE is not your friend.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        I used to think highly of FIRE.

        ...used to.

  21. Marshal   2 months ago

    In other words, it is likely—highly probable, even—that Comey was merely implying Trump should be booted from office.

    This entire paragraph is disingenuous since there is no mechanism to boot Trump from office.

  22. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

    Public servant so NOT PROTECTED
    Comey knows what's damning. Do you

  23. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

    Okay, we've returned to the "Hillary should have been elected" Reason party. Comey knows he deleted what could have sent himn to prison. But you like that deleted message so you give it a pass

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Comey knows that Hillary deleted stuff that should have sent her to prison, but he gave her a pass.

  24. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "A lot of conservatives are falling prey to the same snowflakery they criticize."

    Another view is that conservatives are learning to play by the rules progressives established, even if they think the rules are stupid.

  25. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "In other words, it is likely—highly probable, even—that Comey was merely implying Trump should be booted from office."

    In what fantasy in your head does "86" mean "impeach", which is the only real way Trump can be "booted from office".

  26. Minadin   2 months ago

    You guys want to talk about first amendment issues?

    Colorado just criminalized 'deadnaming' and 'misgendering'.

    'Dreamy' 'libertarian-adjacent' governor Polis signed it into law. They're going full UK on the speech policing.

    https://notthebee.com/article/colorado-bill-banning-deadnaming-and-misgendering-signed-into-law-and-weve-got-the-details

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Reason just does what Koch tells them. It is increasingly useless to gripe at the puppet and to ignore the puppeteer.

    2. JohnZ   2 months ago

      86 Polis

    3. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

      Trump should put Colorado under martial law and lock up Pollis and their legislature. No more patience or mercy for democrats.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        There are no provisions for "martial law" under the US Constitution or federal law. A military takeover would simply be a coup.

        1. YehoshuaK   2 months ago

          Funny, I remember the declaration of martial law in Los Angeles during the Rodney King riots back in 1992. The official rule, as I understood it at the time, was that the police and National Guard were authorized to shoot to kill anyone out after curfew.

          1. Vernon Depner   1 month ago

            Cite?

  27. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    Democrats put a guy in jail for a meme - so fuck Coney.

    >"You’re not better than that. You’re just weak, and you empower the enemy. Stop doing that. Fight viciously and ruthlessly over every little thing every single time without remorse or hesitation. And, even if you lose, at least you will never be a serf."

  28. JohnZ   2 months ago

    So how soon before the Feds raid Comey's residence at 5:00AM like they do when parents object to tranny rapists in girls locker rooms?
    Now imagine what would have happened if some one did the same with #45.
    My faith in the government is at 0. I don't expect it to improve anytime soon.
    Comey is a corrupted ass hole anyway.

  29. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   2 months ago

    James Comey should not be put into jail for this stupid move, but should be completely discredited and trolled.

    James Comey should however be put into jail for his numerous other crimes.

  30. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Any word about Colorado literally making telling the truth a crime? No? Too local? Or are they still dreamy libertiens?

  31. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

    Billy, if Comey texted this about your mother, would you be MR oh-so-cool-and="tolerant" ???? You mistake cold-heartedness for detachment

    1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

      Hypocrisy is a kink for the writers of this high school newspaper level institution.

    2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

      I would be pissed, but it’s not illegal. I would probably block his number.

      But I’m not a treasonous snowflake like you Trump traitors are.

  32. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

    Nothing says free speech like one of the heads of the deepstate calling for the assassination of Trump. After the deepstate already failed twice at assassinating Trump.

    Reason has officially joined the side of violent evil. We should all react accordingly.

    Shreeka doesn't live that far from me. And doesn't one of these assholes live in Ohio now? Short drive for me.

    Not that I'm threatening any of them. I would never do that. I'm against violence of any kind. I'm just pointing out how many of them live within a short drive from me if I thought that any of them should be murdered which I definitely do not. No violence is acceptable. I don't even know what 86 means, so I'm good. Also, I could make the claim that assassinate is just a figure of speech for destroying their verbal argument. Anyway, can anyone remind me which one lives in Ohio? I think it's ENB.

    Welch lives in what neighborhood of NY again? Not that I would have any reason to respond to his post of a red wedding (mass murder) of conservatives. I'm just curious where he lives. You should be curious too. In case you want to give him a peace of your mind for calling for the mass murder of conservatives. For strictly peaceful reasons of course, where Welch lives is interesting.

    Liz, who I used to think was great, but I've changed my mind about and now I think she's an evil leftist. She lives in Rockaway Beach, right? Not that I would ever go there. Someone might. Go to Rockaway Beach and rape Liz. I wouldn't do that, I'm not a rapist. Rape is evil. Nobody should go to Rockaway Beach and rape Liz. How big is Rockaway Beach anyway? What are the chances that if you went there you'd even see her?

    KMW really destroyed Reason. I think she's evil for what she did to the libertarian movement. In general, evil people should be drawn and quartered. I'm not actually advocating for KMW to be drawn and quartered, I'm a peaceful person and I don't ever advocate for violence. Where does KMW live?

    Many of the Reason staff's addresses are actually public information. Since I clearly have no interest in learning where any of them live, this is strictly an academic endeavor.

    Or, Billy Binion is a piece of disingenuous garbage. BTW, anyone know where he lives?

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      Now that I know threatening to murder people is free speech I’ll be having a lot of fun.

    2. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

      86 GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND

      GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND needs to be drawn and quartered.

      If you don’t see the obvious difference between those statements than you need to be drawn and quartered.

      Now I’m not advocating GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND be drawn and quartered…

  33. Thomas Creech   2 months ago

    for crying out loud…

  34. YehoshuaK   2 months ago

    I'm a Trump supporter. The man is not admirable personally, nor do I support all of his policies, but as a politician he gets more of the things that are most important to me right than does any plausible alternative. So I support him.

    As for Comey's tweet, when I put myself imaginatively into the jury deciding whether to convict him for inciting to murder, I don't see any way I'd be able to vote to convict. There is at least a good chance--a reasonable doubt--that he meant that Trump should be politically defeated, made irrelevant, and removed from office. So I could not in good conscience vote that he's guilty of inciting to murder President Trump.

    That being the case, I've gotta agree that his Tweet (or X, or whatever the kids are calling it this day) is protected speech under the 1st Amendment. Tasteless and dumb, and I don't respect him for it, but totally protected.

  35. JohnZ   1 month ago

    If someone had created the same message concerning Biden when he was occupying the White House, I wonder what the reaction would have been?
    Massive, unhinged calls for arrests and prison for the "violent right wing extremist". FBI raid on home?
    The leftist media would have a field day , labeling anyone to the right on Karl Marx, a dangerous right wing extremist and the democrat led congress would pass more laws to further limit speech. As if they haven't already.
    Joe Scarborough would condemn the person. The View would go off the rails and demand the death penalty. It would be non stop 24/7 for weeks on end. The leftists would take it upon themselves to violently attack anyone they deemed less than loyal to Obiden.
    People would be fearful of flying the American flag in that it would bring about violent attacks against them.
    Trump would, of course be blamed for it and charged accordingly, by Leticia James and Alvin Bragg.
    Or is it letrashia Jogger.....

    1. Mickey Rat   1 month ago

      Yes, the media pearl-clutching would be epic.

  36. Brett Bellmore   1 month ago

    It's protected by the 1st amendment, AND it's a tasteless, juvenile, deniable death threat. Like a teen swearing in front of his parents, and pretending he sneezed.

    Democrats, (And Comey is, realistically, a Democrat at this point.) think it's cool and edgy to do things like this. And he got what he wanted out of it: 5 more minutes of attention, that he was starved for now that he's irrelevant.

    1. Ben of Houston   1 month ago

      This. Thank you. It may be legal, but it is beyond unacceptable.

      It definitely should be an instant ban from all social media and becoming a persona non grata at social events. And certainly, it should get him disbarred.

      However, it should not get him arrested. Not on it's own.

      1. Juliana Frink   1 month ago

        Thank you Brett and Ben. ACTUAL voices of reason.

        But of course seeing Comey tarred and feathered would be fabulous entertainment.

        1. Juliana Frink   1 month ago

          ...after all, who could argue with the PASSIONS of a populace losing patience for the wheels of justice to service his other, numerable crimes?

  37. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

    "I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me but I oppose violence of any kind so I took the post down."

    Lying pile of TDS-addled shit.

  38. Speaking for normal people   1 month ago

    Why are you defending him, Billy ?
    And if you think the message is fine and okay, why not just say that?
    Very dishonest of you.

    1. Juliana Frink   1 month ago

      An honest headline would read:

      "James Comey Belongs in Prison for a Long List of Actual Crimes, But His '8647' Instagram Post Just Might be Protected By The First Amendment."

  39. Vesicant   1 month ago

    If incitement to murder is protected speech, how does anybody ever get arrested and convicted for conspiracy to commit murder? And protected or not, incitement is still incitement. Did Comey know that 86 has connotations beyond trash or dispose of? Even if not, I think he was intentionally playing in a gray zone of his own invention.

    1. Vesicant   1 month ago

      Because otherwise he would have said "Deep six." Sea shells at the beach, hello?

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 month ago

      Incitement usually requires immediate action after the speach. Why even if you think the word "fight" used by Trump in stop the steal speach can't be Incitement since the crowd had already started riiting prior to the speach.
      Conspiracy takes furtive steps like attempting to buy a bomb.

      A terroristic threat charge would be probably the statute used to go after Comey. And while I love to see Comey get hoisted by his own petard, having used it to threaten parents with investigation for arguing with school boards; I'd much more like it go the way of the waste bin.

  40. CE   1 month ago

    A run of the mill Democrat politician bragging that they will "86" someone in the next election is no more a "death threat" than someone putting crosshairs on a Congressional district they want to target for extra attention in the midterms.

    But Trump isn't running for reelection (as far as we know so far), and Comey isn't a run of the mill Democrat politician -- he was the director of one of the secret police forces, and may have operatives waiting for the coded message in rock patterns on the beach. So clearly, Comey should be prosecuted.

  41. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

    What Comey did is not illegal AFAIK, but it is the action of a slimy pile of TDS addled shit and should be considered by anyone employing (or not) such a slimy pile of TDS-addled shit.
    I'm sure CNN is looking forward to an interview, and with any luck, the asshole will lie on record and get CNN the cost of another judgement.

  42. Mickey Rat   1 month ago

    Remember when quasi-violent rhetoric and political civility was all th rage among the Left? I mean, it does only apply when the targets of incivility are Democrats, but still.

    1. JohnZ   1 month ago

      It's still all the rage with the leftists. Jasmine Crackhead has stated numerous time that violence is the answer to all her problems.
      I'll bet the nasty little harpies on The View are calling for more violence.
      Just remember though, the greatest threat to America are right wing extremists.

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