Treating Journalism As Consumer Fraud, Trump Claims Coverage of a Presidential Poll Was Not 'News Reporting'
The president's lawyers also conflate fraud with defamation, misconstrue the commercial speech doctrine, and assert that false speech is not constitutionally protected.

Shortly before last year's presidential election, The Des Moines Register reported the results of a poll that gave Kamala Harris, the Democratic candidate, a three-point lead in Iowa. That surprising result, generated by a survey that pollster Ann Selzer conducted for the Register, proved to be off by more than a little: Donald Trump ultimately won Iowa by 13 percentage points.
Trump is still mad about that survey, and he is trying to punish the Register and Selzer for it by persuading a federal judge in Iowa that it amounted to consumer fraud under state law. The obvious problem for Trump is that his fraud claim hinges on showing that he suffered damages because he reasonably relied on misrepresentations by the defendants in connection with the sale of "consumer merchandise." Since Trump did not buy anything from the Register or Selzer, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) argued in a motion to dismiss his lawsuit, he is trying to invent a tort that consists of reporting "fraudulent news," which would be plainly inconsistent with the First Amendment.
Not so, Trump lawyers Edward Andrew Paltzik and Alan R. Ostergren say in their opposition to dismissal. The plaintiffs, who include two Iowa politicians as well as Trump, "have not brought a claim for 'fraudulent news' or for that matter, any claim involving news," Paltzik and Ostergren write, because "defendants were not engaged in any news reporting. Rather, Defendants intentionally (or at minimum, negligently) disseminated false polling data for increased profit and readership."
When the Register reported that "Kamala Harris now leads Donald Trump in Iowa," in other words, the story might have looked like coverage of the presidential race. But it was actually not "news reporting" at all, because it was 1) inaccurate and 2) motivated by a desire for "increased profit and readership." If a news organization gets a story wrong while trying to make money or attract readers, according to Paltzik and Ostergren, it is not practicing journalism, even poorly. It is engaged in "commercial speech," which enjoys less protection under the First Amendment.
That is not what "commercial speech" means, FIRE notes in a reply brief it filed last week. "'Commercial speech' is not speech someone was paid to produce, as Plaintiffs evidently think," write FIRE Chief Counsel Robert Corn-Revere and his colleagues, who represent Selzer. The commercial speech doctrine, as articulated by the Supreme Court in the 1980 case Central Hudson & Electric Corp. v. Public Services Commission, "applies to advertising—speech proposing commercial transactions."
Trump's lawyers claim "Selzer's polls and the Register are 'consumer products' and 'commercial speech' because they operate for-profit businesses," Corn-Revere et al. note. That argument "would (or should) embarrass a first-year law student," FIRE says, noting that it contradicts "the very basic concept that speakers do not 'shed their First Amendment protections by employing the corporate form to disseminate their speech,'" as the Supreme Court put it in the 2023 case 303 Creative v. Elenis. That point, the Court explained, "underlies our cases involving everything from movie producers to book publishers to newspapers."
Paltzik and Ostergren also assert that "false statements—whether on the pages of a newspaper or elsewhere—are a species of fraud and do not enjoy immunity from tort liability when the speaker makes the statements with knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard for truth or falsity." Here they are borrowing language from the law of defamation, which is irrelevant in this context, since Trump does not claim that Selzer or the Register defamed him.
Paltzik and Ostergren misleadingly quote the Supreme Court's observation in the 1963 defamation case Garrison v. Louisiana that "the knowingly false statement and the false statement made with reckless disregard of the truth do not enjoy constitutional protection." This is "the guiding principle underpinning false speech," they claim, obscuring the fact that the case involved defamation, not false statements generally, and so has nothing to do with Trump's consumer fraud claim.
Paltzik and Ostergren, in short, imply that false speech is not protected by the First Amendment—a proposition that the Supreme Court explicitly rejected in the 2012 case Alvarez v. United States. "Isolated statements in some earlier decisions do not support the Government's submission that false statements, as a general rule, are beyond constitutional protection," the justices said in Alvarez. "The Court has never endorsed the categorical rule the Government advances: that false statements receive no First Amendment protection."
As FIRE notes, Paltzik and Ostergren do not even cite Alvarez, "the leading Supreme Court case rejecting a generalized First Amendment exception for 'false speech,'" let alone contend with its implications. "Plaintiffs offer a random collection of one-liners from defamation and commercial speech cases to suggest false speech generally lacks First Amendment protection," Corn-Revere et al. write. "The obvious problem with this is that it is precisely the line of argument the Supreme Court rejected in Alvarez."
Trump's case, you may recall, is supposed to be about consumer fraud. Yet he has never satisfactorily explained in what sense he was defrauded as a consumer.
The Iowa Consumer Fraud Act authorizes lawsuits by victims of misrepresentations "in connection with the advertisement, sale, or lease of consumer merchandise." But as FIRE notes, "Selzer's polls are not 'consumer merchandise' because they are not sold or leased 'primarily for personal, family, or household purposes.'"
Trump also alleges fraudulent misrepresentation. "The 'representation' element pertains to a statement made to induce another into entering a transaction, such as a false statement made by a seller to a buyer," Corn-Revere et al. note. "Yet Plaintiffs point to no representations by Selzer for the purpose of inducing anyone (much less Plaintiffs) into a purchase." Two other elements of that claim—the materiality and intent of the statement—likewise contemplate a transaction that in this case never happened: "On all three elements, Plaintiffs are cutting out the transaction inducement element of fraud—the sine qua non ingredient that makes fraud a cognizable cause of action—and hoping the Court doesn't notice the misdirection."
Trump also is supposed to allege that he justifiably relied on a false statement. Here, too, "Plaintiffs attempt to bypass the transaction aspect of fraud," FIRE says. "Justifiable reliance means that a defendant justifiably relied on a representation by a plaintiff when deciding whether to enter a transaction. If justifiable reliance were not tethered to an induced transaction, gamblers would sue ESPN analysts for failed sports bets, claiming they 'justifiably relied' on the sports expertise of the network's on-air talent. That is not how tort law works."
The lack of a commercial relationship with Selzer or the Register also presents a problem for the plaintiffs' negligent misrepresentation claim. "Selzer had no contract with Plaintiffs, express or implied, and Plaintiffs do not argue otherwise," Corn-Revere et al. write. "The pertinent question is whether Selzer had a legal duty to supply Plaintiffs with information. She did not, and Plaintiffs offer no authority creating a legal duty between a pollster and the politicians whose public support the pollster measures."
In essence, FIRE says, Trump is claiming that "consumers of news should have a cause of action against news providers that get a story wrong through negligence." Accepting that premise would have a paralyzing impact on journalists, since they would be exposed to daunting legal expenses and potentially ruinous civil liability whenever their reporting was arguably misleading or inaccurate.
"Once you get past the groundless assertions, campaign-style hyperbole, and overheated conspiracy theories, there is nothing left," FIRE concludes. "No legal basis whatsoever supports the claims, and Plaintiffs' opposition to the motions to dismiss reveals both shocking unfamiliarity with basic concepts of First Amendment law and a disregard of the pleading requirements for fraud or misrepresentation under Iowa law."
Even though his claims are laughable, Trump already has punished the Register and Selzer by forcing them to defend against his legally groundless complaint. Notably, Iowa is not one of the 35 states with anti-SLAPP laws, which aim to discourage litigation targeting constitutionally protected speech by allowing expedited dismissal and requiring losing plaintiffs to pay their opponents' legal costs.
As Trump's similarly frivolous lawsuit against CBS in Texas shows, even large media companies can succumb to such pressure, especially when it is combined with threats of regulatory retaliation. And even if Trump does not succeed in establishing a cause of action for "fraudulent news," this sort of litigation can have a chilling impact on journalism, which is what he explicitly hopes to accomplish.
"We have to straighten out the press," Trump says, explaining his motivation for suing CBS and the Register. "I have to do it [because] our press is very corrupt."
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Way to miss the actual argument yet again.
If the poll was intentionally biased, is media just reporting the news?
Odd you defended the 1.5B judgement against Jones for an actual opinion.
"If the poll was intentionally biased, is media just reporting the news?"
According to The Moist Esteemed JesseBahnFarter-Fuhrer, if bunches of people CHANGE THEIR MINDS after responding to a poll-taker... Or LIE about their voting intentions, to said poll-taker... Then the WRONG pollsters of the WRONG tribe must be PUNISHED-PUNISHED-PUNISHED!!!! Dear Orange Leader SAID so, so we must all OBEY!!!!
(There can NEVER be ENOUGH punish-shit-mint of the WRONG Tribe, in The PervFected Eyes of The Moist Esteemed JesseBahnFarter-Fuhrer!)
That's (D)ifferent.
JS; dr
Gears Grimy and Stripped, SNOT worth reading!
Fuck off, shillsy.
^this, and please stop with the Tourette's posting
Sqrlsy;too retarded
JS;dr
Lies for political purposes have never been considered consumer fraud.
The poll was a fraud intended to discourage Trump voters. Biden's DOJ sent Douglass Mackey to jail for posting a meme claiming that it was possible to vote for Hillary Clinton through text messages, but that was (D)ifferent.
Hey Farts of Fury... Twat evidence do you have that this was "a fraud intended to discourage Trump voters" v.s perhaps just bunches of people CHANGING THEIR MINDS after responding to a poll-taker... Or LYING about their voting intentions, to said poll-taker... Do YOU want to PervFectly PUNISH them ALL? TWAT will it take to sate Your PervFectly Raging Punishment Boner?
(Now punish ME... And ME... And ME too!!! A spanking, a spanking!!!)
If that fake poll is journalism then that says a lot about what Sullum believes the responsibilities and goals of his profession are supposed to be.
Zero honesty and zero accountability for outright lying propagandists like himself.
I could have some respect for Reason if they issued corrections or offered mea culpas for all of the stories they get egregiously (and I can only surmise intentionally) wrong. Instead they double down and all repeat outright lies and misrepresentations that align with democrats and left wing media.
"...If that fake poll is journalism then that says a lot about what Sullum believes the responsibilities and goals of his profession are supposed to be..."
And quite a bit about how the TDS-addled slimy pile of shit Sullum addresses his 'profession' here.
Fuck off and die, Sullum.
The accountability takes place when outlets lose subscribers, viewers and ratings.
CNN is in last place in the ratings. MSNBC is not far behind. No one trusts anything printed in either the N.Y. Times or Bezos Post.
The, there's The View.......
So Jacob considers fraud just fine so long as the fraudster identified as a journalist. Truly princilped.
I'm a journalist and I'm going to research phone scams for an upcoming article by running as many as I can until I get caught.
Treating Journalism As Consumer Fraud"
Every time current Reason and the foundation advertise and solicit donations as a 'libertarian' magazine.
There's a lot more to libertarianism than ass sex, tariffs and open borders between a welfare state and the third world. There's all that free speech, deregulation and civil rights stuff they've been ignoring too.
But they can't make clickbait handwringing headlines from all that.
Are you really taking the position that political statements, even if provably false, are immune to defamation?
Look. Here's the thing. This was reported as fact.
Trump is the only person with standing.
We can argue whether Trump's reasoning is right or not or whether the evidence is sufficient. However, this is pre-trial. The objections are that he is even suing at all, not that his evidence is weak.
So if its anathema for Trump to sue, then the precedent is that you can commit explicit libel and no one can challenge you in court so long as it's against a current political candidate.
That's an absurd result.
Any line of logic that gives a conclusion that no one has standing is absurd.
And while I'm tired of sounding like a broken record. We have the precedent from Trump's trial that signing an NDA with a mistress (an otherwise completely legal act) is election interference. Is releasing a fraudulent poll (which is libel) the week before the election greater or less than that?
I’m not a lawyer and even I can recognize just how stupid this argument is. Why don’t you actually look up libel and understand it before making such asinine statements? Whatever one may say about the poll and reporting, libel doesn’t come within a country mile of the picture. Might as well call it jay walking as well for all the relevance it has.
I’m not a lawyer and even I can recognize just how stupid this argument is.
Do you think other people who aren't lawyers don't recognize your stupidity?
The argument isn't that the poll was definitively libel. The argument was that the poll might be considered libel, which is actually a crime. Your mistress signing an NDA is such a non-crime that they didn't even try him for it, they literally and loudly invented crimes around it.
Some people disclaim their status as a lawyer because they don't want their opinion considered as legal advice, but people like you just do it because you're stupid and don't know any better.
No, the argument is that the reporting of the poll amounted to consumer fraud. But Trump didn't buy anything from the defendant so he wasn't defrauded as a consumer. He is trying to claim the misleading poll damaged his election campaign but he won Iowa. So what, exactly, are his damages? How could a court ruling in his favor do anything?
The des moines register should pay me 100million dollars for winning Iowa? Is that what we are doing now?
Again, there is precedent created by the lawfare the left has been waging.
Trump got a loan from Deutsche Bank using several properties, among them Mar-a-lago,, and paid it back with interest.
Yet he was sued for fraud for doing so because he -not his appraiser or the banks appraiser- said things about the value of said properties.
But there was no 'victim', no actual plaintiff.
Who was defrauded?
Hell, in the NDA case the jury was essentially given the instruction that if they thought he'd done ANYTHING illegal, at any time, that could be why they find him guilty.
There is no law anymore. And there will not be. Until WE bring it back.
Shortly after the election Biden and Kamala campaign workers admitted that, according to their internal polling (the ones we don't get to see) neither Biden nor Harris EVER lead Trump in the internal polls.
This mean that EVERY public poll they pushed was a lie. Every single one.
Were they trying to defraud anyone?
Moreover, this is the same sort of selective enforcement dishonesty that's gone on in campaign finance law since Obama. Where using public money to run a campaign was the only way to ensure fairness and honesty, free of evil private influences, until it was discovered that Obama would be crushing both McCain's private and public campaign financing if he accepted private donations and then, suddenly, McCain was a hypocrite for agreeing to the public campaign funding compromise that Obama proposed and then reneged on.
There have been ongoing debates about the honesty of ads as articles and influencers sponsored by corporations behind the scenes or under the table... conflicts of interest in research funding... fabrication of data and ethics violations... but networks literally handing debate questions to candidates and conducting, releasing, and bolstering blatantly false polling is in no way questionable or unscrupulous because the media would never lie or collude with a party or administration about a political candidate's fitness for office.
So, making a claim that Trump’s lawyers *didn’t make* and that has no relevance because it is factually incorrect as a matter of law (regardless of whether I'm a lawyer or not) is now a good argument? The commentariat here has really gone down hill, but this may be the dumbest argument I've ready here yet, and that's saying a lot.
Ben of Houston claimed that releasing a fraudulent poll is libel (“releasing a fraudulent poll (which is libel)”). Your response simply ignores what he actually wrote (“The argument isn't that the poll was definitively libel”) to defend an argument he didn’t make.
Sure, the poll “could” be considered libel. But only by someone who doesn’t know what libel is. Just like someone “could” consider it to be tax fraud, murder, or haiku poetry. By an idiot.
When you want to talk about what libel actually is, you might have an argument worth listening to. But until then, you just have running of the mouth (or fingers).
Ben of Houston claimed that releasing a fraudulent poll is libel
I know you're not a lawyer and that which means you're being cravenly dishonest and stupid voluntarily for free so I'll be brief:
Ben of Houston doesn't definitively determine what is or isn't libel, a court does. I'm fairly certain he'd admit that.
Again, Ben of Houston's argument is that libel is actually a crime but signing an NDA isn't, paying a lawyer isn't, filing your taxes isn't, and that they literally invented charges to convict him.
You can play stupid and deny it or pretend like you don't understand it all you like, but it's been explained twice at a level a 10 yr. old could understand and I don't have to keep repeating it for you to continue making yourself look like a dishonest moron.
If you think someone committed libel or consumer fraud, those are actual crimes, if you think someone *forced* someone to sign an NDA, that's an actual crime, if you think someone stole an election by filing his taxes after the election, you're just retarded, dishonest, or both.
"...even if provably false..."
Can ANYONE actually PROVE that the polls were false, or even taken in bad faith? Ass opposed to perhaps just bunches of people CHANGING THEIR MINDS after responding to a poll-taker... Or LYING about their voting intentions, to said poll-taker... Do YOU want to PervFectly PUNISH them ALL? TWAT will it take to sate Your PervFectly Raging Punishment Boner?
(Now punish ME... And ME... And ME too!!! A spanking, a spanking!!!)
Or are we talking, de facto, turning poll-taking into a CRIME? Because ALL polls suffer from these kinds of defects!
That's what discovery is for.
The des moines register did a follow up on the methodology employed and how the poll reached its conclusion. It was all put out there publicly precisely because the poll was an outlier.
Of course they are not immune to defamation.
the instant case here though is not a lawsuit for defamation.
I'll always remind folks --- this site opposed Hulk Hogan for suing Gawker because they stole a sex tape he did not know was being recorded at all and then refused to take the sex tape down.
THAT was "journalism" to Reason.
See http://reason.com/blog/2016/03/18/florida-jury-awards-115-million-to-hulk# Florida Jury Awards $115 Million to Hulk Hogan in His Gawker Lawsuit… About Hooker Hulk Hogan… “Hooker Hulk” gets $115 MILLION, v/s “Spermy Daniels” gets only $130 K, for each of them being skanky hos. The MALE skanky ho gets almost THREE odors of magnitude and magshitude more money!!! How is THAT for sexual equality?!
But what gets my bowels in an uproar even more, is that through the courts and policemen enforcing court orders and/or contracts here in these kinds of cases, Government Almighty is the Pimp Daddy and hit-man enforcer of it all! And then they go and jail $50 and $100 poor hookers, to “protect us from trafficking in sex slaves”.
If Government Almighty is going to be the Big Pimp Daddy and hit-man enforcer, for the rich and famous, then could they PLEASE stop being hypocrites, and stop punishing the “little people” for doing the same things!??!
SIDE-BAND SNIDE COMMENT:
As a socio-economic and sexual-political experiment, I think someone should get Hooker Hulk Hogan to fuck Spermy Daniels. Which of the two would owe how much money, to the other?
MAIN COMMENT:
I think I have fingered out WHY does Government Almighty play Big Pimp Daddy to the rich and famous, while punishing the dirt-poor hookers?! When $130 k or $115 million gets thrown around, Government Almighty gets to tax the payment and the lawyers, and grab at least 1/3 of it. Easy-peasy on the big transactions… When a small-time hooker turns a trick “under the table” (a kinky place to do it!), it is MUCH harder to collect! Especially if he or she is paid in smack or crack or Ripple wine…
I am UTTERLY crushed to have fingered out that Government Almighty (which claims to LOVE me and want to PROTECT me from sleazy sex), is actually just wanting to line its own wallet!!!
And Douglas Mackey...
And Alex Jones...
And Andy Ngo...
It's overt political capture of and/or collusion between the DNC and a preferred media class where persecution of disfavored members of the media or even just people that talk about things are non-entities with regard to free speech but exercising a right to petition to figure out if free/false advertising counts as free speech or an in turn campaign donation is a Constitutional crisis from which free speech may never recover.
Prosecute Trump for asking the President of Senate/Congressmen to perform duties in a certain way--that's ok. But Trump isn't allowed to go after media in a civil case? Guys, that ship has sailed. One side cannot be asked to unilaterally disarm.
Sullum soils himself once again.
My theory is that Sullum is a resident of an insane asylum somewhere, who writes this idiocy on his cell’s walls using his own excrement. Then KMW comes by and takes pictures of his ravings, to be sued for articles like this. Then they bring the SQRLSY in to lick the walls clean so he can start over.
who writes this idiocy on his cell’s walls using his own excrement. Then KMW comes by and takes pictures of his ravings,
ScatGPT
For the most part , journalism is a fraud. The Legacy/Main Stream Media has been nothing more than a boot licking propaganda outlet for the CIA, NSA, Pentagon, White House and FBI, essentially working for the government.
Too make matters worse, they have strayed so far to the left, they have left the country. They have degraded the middle class and anyone who dared vote for anyone to the right of karl Marx.
Biased and unfactual reporting has been their calling card for decades now. The N.Y. Times is so bad they're are losing not only readers but advertisers, Jeff Bezos Post has fired a number of sleazy journalists including Taylor Lorenz but that still hasn't changed anything.
The televised news is in big trouble, CNN is ranked the lowest in ratings with MSNBC not far behind. ABC with its, The View, populated by five of the most ignorant and illiterate morons ever to sit in front of a TV camera, while others like Joe Scarborough continue to drag ratings further into the toilet.
The MSM is finished. Replaced by people such as Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, James O'Keefe and a host of other podcasters who bring forth real information and not the typical rubbish the MSM is peddling.
Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan honestly do not claim they provide news, merely opinion.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/o1z4tw/fox_news_won_a_court_case_by_persuasively_arguing/
James Okeefe admitted he was a liar in a lawsuit. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/james-okeefe-project-veritas-settle-suit-bogus-voter-fraud-claims-cite-rcna137366
You can look up the case records if you don’t believe the NBC article. Personally I prefer WSJ for news.
It would also destroy research publishing. If you do research and get a bad result and publish it and it has any kind of political impact you could be sued.
If Seltzer intentionally rigged her poll then let's see the proff Trump. Are reporters even looking into this? We know polls are notoriously wrong for a vareity of reasons. Changing demographics and technology are just some of the challenges for polsters. If the only people who will pick up the phone and answer your poll are old, retired farmers who have land lines then what weight do you give them when analyzing the data? It's not so easy.
If polsters have to be right then it would pretty much destroy the polling industry.
Like Trump's CBS lawsuit this is a joke. Trump is always cherry picking polls to tout and ignores the ones he does not like. Likewise, as in the CBS case, he gets massively favorable treatment from FOX and OAN. Shouldn't he be suing them too?
Why is anyone taking this guy seriously? Impeach him so that he can go win some geezer gold tournaments.
The only party here that would seem to have a legitimate claim of consumer fraud would be the Register if the poll were a work for hire and Seltzer misrepresented it to them in order to sell it to them. But Trump doesn’t have a plausible claim here, especially as he cannot demonstrate that he was hurt in any fashion. He won Iowa by a commanding margin. Maybe that poll took away a few voters from his margin, but he suffered no material harm in any fashion.
I know a lot of the commenters here are butt hurt because of truly bad things folks on Team D did in the past, but now they are using whataboutism to defend Team R in doing the same thing.
These are not libertarians in any sense of the word, no matter how loudly they claim otherwise, but instead run-of-the-mill Tear R partisans who will defend anything Trump does because Trump is doing it. They might as well hang out on Redstate.com.
All they do here is bitch about Reason.com not having a total hard on for Trump to match theirs.
The only party here that would seem to have a legitimate claim
Oh, huh. "Seem to have"? It's almost like you aren't a lawyer or a judge and yet you understand how all of this works and you're being intentionally dishonest and stupid when Ben of Houston points out that libel and consumer fraud are actually crimes while signing NDAs, paying your lawyer, and filing taxes after an election isn't.
When do you people realize how shit stupid your *same* "butt hurt", "Trump hard on", and "whataboutism" arguments are and that they aren't working on even fairly uneducated people? You *convicted* him and people didn't give a shit. Twice. The time to make the "what about" argument was before then.
You don't have to have a hard on for Trump to find E. Jean Caroll to be a nutjob or Stormy Daniels to be an opportunistic whore or Bragg's trial to be a farce. It's not whataboutism you're arguing against. You retards crossed the Rubicon years ago. As has been pointed out repeatedly, if you hadn't, Elon Musk would be an EV car salesman, Joe Rogan would be a UFC podcaster, Jordan Peterson would be a no name college professor, and Trump would be a former reality TV host. You are your own "whataboutims" the soruce of your own butt hurt that you blame on "Team R libertarians" without realizing that, given Chase Oliver's numbers, was more than 80% of Team L all along.
The fact is, the MSM is losing audience because they cannot be trusted to bring forth real, factual, truthful news content. Instead, the so called journalists have been injecting their own activist ideology into nearly everything they get involved with, which means, the truth is often twisted or simply ignored in favor of certain political ideology. This is done on both sides but most frequently by the left.
The MSM today is, for the most part, very slanted to the left simply because those college educated journalists have been highly influenced by Marxist professors.
The results are seen in the dwindling numbers of viewers of CNN, MSNBC and others. Instead people are turning to Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson and Jordan Peterson as well as online news services such as Zero Hedge and Veterans Today.
“ In essence, FIRE says, Trump is claiming that "consumers of news should have a cause of action against news providers that get a story wrong through negligence." Accepting that premise would have a paralyzing impact on journalists, since they would be exposed to daunting legal expenses and potentially ruinous civil liability whenever their reporting was arguably misleading or inaccurate.” FIRE is right, that is the argument, just so we know rejecting the argument falls into the same category as supporting Piss Christ as art or the Skokie Nazis’ right to assemble and speak.