The Atlantic Should Not Find Out About a War Before Congress Does
The White House accidentally leaked military plans in Yemen to a journalist—and demonstrated how unconstitutional U.S. war making has become.

Everyone has been there. You were added to a group chat that you're not supposed to be a part of, and you can't seem to stop the messages. Or, more embarrassingly, you've added someone else to a group chat they were not supposed to see. But most people have not done so with Top Secret military plans and the editor of a major magazine.
Jeffrey Goldberg, editor in chief of The Atlantic, reported on Monday that he had been added by National Security Adviser Mike Waltz to an encrypted Signal group chat with the White House's principals committee to discuss U.S. war plans in Yemen. Goldberg received the first message at 11:44 a.m. on Saturday, March 15, and around two hours later, the White House announced a new air campaign against Houthi forces. The National Security Council confirmed the group chat was real and claimed Goldberg was added by accident.
The leak became an opportunity for Democrats to clutch their pearls about the sanctity of classified information. "You have got to be kidding me," groaned former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, whose own presidential bid was derailed by her mishandling of classified data. Goldberg himself accused the Trump administration of violating the Espionage Act and federal record-keeping laws, warning that some of the messages "could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel."
And among Republicans, the leak intensified the Trump administration's internal struggle over foreign policy. The hawkish Wall Street Journal editorial board used the messages to paint Vice President J.D. Vance as "a voice for U.S. retreat." Politico, on the other hand, reported that Trump administration insiders saw "an opening for longtime Waltz detractors suspicious of his neoconservative ties to push for his removal." After all, he had Goldberg, a personal enemy of Trump, in his phone contacts. Trump told NBC that Waltz has "learned a lesson" and blamed a junior staffer.
There's a much bigger scandal than Waltz's alleged carelessness, however. The U.S. has been involved in Yemen against the will of Congress for years, and President Donald Trump reopened a dormant war without any kind of public deliberation. The messages that Goldberg chose to publish reveal that the timing was driven by hawks' desire to sell the war—and go over Congress' head—rather than any urgent threat to American lives.
"There was no emergency. The executive branch unlawfully sidestepped Congress, taking military action that top officials admit was elective. The discussion establishes unequivocally that the strikes in Yemen are unconstitutional," former Michigan Libertarian Rep. Justin Amash wrote on X.
In other words, the scandal of the group chat was not that too many people knew about the war plans before they were carried out. It was that not enough people knew, because the administration deliberately tried to prevent a public debate from breaking out, as other officials revealed when Vance called for one.
"There is a real risk that the public doesn't understand this or why it's necessary," Vance wrote to the group chat, according to The Atlantic, arguing that fighting to protect other countries' trade routes would be "inconsistent" with Trump's agenda. "I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself. But there is a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc," Vance added.
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth replied that "messaging is going to be tough no matter what – nobody knows who the Houthis are – which is why we would need to stay focused on: 1) [former President Joe] Biden failed & 2) Iran funded." He conceded that "a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus," but predicted two "immediate risks on waiting: 1) this leaks, and we look indecisive; 2) Israel takes an action first – or Gaza cease fire falls apart – and we don't get to start this on our own terms." Hegseth added that "we can easily pause" the war later on.
Neither of them considered that war might need a vote from Congress, as the Constitution requires. At least Vance wanted some semblance of popular buy-in before going to war. And Hegseth was shockingly blunt about why that couldn't happen: It would "look indecisive," especially given that "nobody knows who the Houthis are." To open up public discussion about the case for war risked muddying the waters.
Hegseth's comment about Israeli action revealed another assumption underlying U.S. policy: If a war breaks out, the U.S. has to be involved. Waltz also commented in the group chat that "whether it's now or several weeks from now, it will have to be the United States that reopens these shipping lanes." (It's worth mentioning that the shipping lanes were open at the time, as the Houthi movement had suspended its attacks on American ships as long as the ceasefire in Gaza held.)
The same assumption has been driving two decades of U.S. policy toward Iran. Since the Bush administration, Israel has wanted to bomb Iranian nuclear sites, and the U.S. has scrambled to respond. As successive administrations tried to threaten or buy off Iran, the working assumption was that the U.S. would automatically be dragged into any hot war, so Washington had to be prepared "to start this on our own terms." Last year, when Israel and Iran were trading missile fire, the Biden administration sent troops directly into the fray with no pretense of public debate.
The constitutional and policy merits of war are two separate questions, but they're impossible to fully disentangle. The point of asking Congress for a declaration of war is to allow the people's representatives to weigh the pros and cons in a deliberate, transparent way. War is the most serious decision a government can make. Citizens of a republic should not have to perform Kremlinology—or wait for an official to fat-finger his contact list—to figure out what their leaders are planning.
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It might have happened.
I will need a far better source than Jeffrey Goldberg to believe it.
This isn’t that complicated. It has the stink of another Vindman type internal leak, planned and timed, not an accident. These clowns aren’t clever. It’s basically the same crap they pulled with the original fat man.
The White House literally confirmed that it happened. Good Lord. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-yemen-strike-plans-atlantic-magazine-1.7492037
And the whole "War plans"? False as false can be. Nothing close to classified.
Who would ever trust Jeffrey Goldberg to report something honestly? The Atlantic doesn't do honest and I doubt Goldberg can even spell integrity.
For those with incredibly short memories, Goldberg is the journolister/CIA asset who made the case for congress that Saddam Hussein and Al Qaida were partners and he funded 9/11.
It was a lie then and Goldberg knew it, but it helped sell the war to congress.
He's still working for the CIA and this little episode is proof.
Goldberg also is the source of the "Sucker and losers" hoax. How many times do people have to be burned before they realize what he is?
Because Goldberg has declined to publicly disclose the details of those war plans (which he said including identification of specific targets and weapons to be used). Also, others at the Atlantic were privy to those communications, and the publication wouldn't have generally described the war plans if those communications weren't present. There is literally no evidence that Goldberg is lying.
Also, you really think the timing of the attack hours before it happened wasn't classified?
While hegseth and others on the chat call those claims completely false. And Goldberg admits the messages said to move discussions to the high side.
So you have claims by a notorious anti trump activist at the Atlantic who refuses to share what he claims is classified after the events already happened. And you trust him.
"So you have claims by a notorious anti trump activist"
That alone makes whatever claims Goldberg has holy scripture to these people.
Goldberg was behind the “suckers and losers” hoax.
And Saddam Hussein runs Al Qaida.
You don't think that internal communications between senior administration officials who are considering an imminent military strike in a foreign country qualifies as classified? Also, among the details shared in the Atlantic article are that Hegseth said the first detonations in Yemen would be felt at 1:45 p.m. eastern time. You don't think that would be classified? The White House confirmed the authenticity of the communications. And the White House has not specifically denied those details. Instead, all we've gotten are blanket denials that "nothing classified" was leaked.
Also, obviously releasing top secret information even after the fact could cause problems. It could reveal information about military structure, operations, equipment, targeting methods, execution, etc. that should not be disclosed to hostile forces. Declining to release such information is prudence, and Goldberg's restraint is not evidence of fabrication.
And of course, that is all setting aside the fact that government officials using Signal this way is straight up illegal under relevant recordkeeping laws, but I digress.
Edit: also, the messages did not suggest moving the discussion to the "high side." The message referring to the "high side" was sent relatively early on (Friday, March 14, 8:05 a.m., and the group chat continued through March 15, the day of the Yemen strike) and just said, "Team, you should have a statement of conclusions with taskings per the Presidents [sic] guidance this morning in your high side inboxes." That is not a recommendation to move the conversation elsewhere, it is just informing them that they can find certain information at another location.
No. I do not.
*Sensitive*, yes. Embarrassing, maybe - but people need to hash out things in private but that doesn't make the discussion worthy of classification.
I’m not just talking about their opinions. I’m talking about the fact that they are discussing an imminent military strike on the Houthis. Even absent operational details, the fact that a military strike is forthcoming is itself classified information, and that information getting out could jeopardize the success of the military operation. Not to mention revealing the timing of the strike hours before it happened.
I’m this case it was widely known already.
Even absent operational details, the fact that a military strike is forthcoming is itself classified information
Take it up with the Biden officials who set the Signal accounts up in the first place.
This is already turning into a nothingburger after Hegseth and Mama Tulsi confirmed that no classified info was actually passed over the channel.
FFS. Reason comment section has turned into a complete clusterfuck of afactual, ahistorical nonsense.
Jeffrey Goldberg is as reliable a source as one can reasonably expect, and the white house literally confirmed it.
"I won't believe it until Goldberg reveals screen shots of classified information" is just an excuse.
What is wrong with people?
Praise the Lord there is at least one other sane Reason lurker out there.
Right on.
Stop samefagging your own posts, KAR.
What are you talking about mother’s crap pile?
KAR? Also, "samefagging" is a gross term that an adult with any shred of decency would be embarrassed to use. But after looking up the definition, it is even more embarrassing that you didn't even use it the right way because I replied to Bubba Jones, not myself. So congrats, you're a bigot and an idiot.
You can definitely fuck yourself.
Goldberg is a known liar and hoaxer.
Yeah and you’re a known genocidal Zionist ball sac slurper.
How is "Zionist" an insult, Nazi?
Also, Goldberg is a known liar and hoaxer. How many times does he have to pull this shit before you retards start to realize he's not on the level. One would think that the Iraq War would have been enough for you clowns, but apparently not.
Mother’s crap pile, genocidal Zionists are people who either pretend to be Jews or people who pretend to support Jews who instead are antisemitic bigots who are bent upon the destruction of Israel by associating the people of Israel with murderous thugs.
Does that answer your question, genocidal zionist ball sac slurper?
Cool story cunt. Got any other bullshit you’d like to peddle?
Jeffrey Goldberg is as reliable a source as one can reasonably expect, and the white house literally confirmed it.
That you're actually making this claim with a straight face invalidates whatever other assertions you might make, you slack-jawed, slope-foreheaded, smooth-brained moron.
Simply use Occam's Razor:
1) If it didn't happen, how did Jeffrey Goldberg even know about it?
2) For example, how did he know who was on the chat?
3) How did he know the chat was even occurring?
4) How did he know it was on Signal?
5) How did he know not only who was on the chat, but what their identification tags were?
You nailed it!
Are you ignoring that not all chats between government officials are classified and that they didn't discuss classified material in that chat?
The first part is embarrassing. The second part is a crime and there's no evidence it happened.
Don't even feed these TDS trolls. They have TDS so bad he could kill their parents and children and they would cheer him.
Of course you will because HEIL TRUMP
The Scatlantic is still afloat?
No, they shouldn’t find out before congress. I recall that the Dominos pizza near the Pentagon typically gets a large order before military action where staffers understand they are going to be at the office for a spell.
The milintel community has talked about how Signal is compromised, so there is that too.
Suspend Waltz. Have congress declare war or don’t engage in non-NAP activities.
Right on.
Yet another reason to like JD Vance, and evidence towards my suspicion that he is a libertarian in Maga clothing.
Despite all his water-carrying for MAGA in public, he is clearly trying to appeal to the Trump cabinet for more peaceful methods. Whether you feel he should choose Yemin as a public hill to die on is a valid question, but it is clear that he is trying to influence the administration in the ways he can.
See, you're just not thinking 4D chess enough. This was an orchestrated lead whose sole purpose was to show JD Vance as an alternative voice, to show that Trump likes and tolerates dissent among his advisors, and that the chicken hawks do not have a lock on the President's ear.
Only 4D chess if you’re viewing the game with your head up your keister.
Too retarded to pick up on sarcasm I see.
Are you really that dumb, mother’s crap pile?
Your parents didn’t give you enough beatings.
KAR was a always a retard with poor emotional control.
Oh, that's right - Republican President so we're complaining about war for the next 4 years.
https://reason.com/tag/yemen/
My count is dozens of articles complaining about the US in Yemen over the last 4 years. This is just from Biden's last year:
* A Year of War in the Middle East Cost Americans Nearly $23 Billion - U.S. taxpayers are underwriting wars in Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, and Iraq.
* Biden Opens the Floodgates on Weapons for the Middle East
The president is reversing a ban on selling offensive weapons to Saudi Arabia and advancing taxpayer-funded military aid to Israel.
* Biden Brags That 'the United States Is Not at War' As He Bombs Yemen
* Are U.S. Strikes on Houthis Constitutional?
Joe Biden is the latest of a string of presidents to deny Congress its rightful role in war making.
* Biden Touts More Forever Wars, Breaking His 2021 Promises
In his State of the Union address, Biden promised indefinite U.S. involvement in Ukraine, Gaza, Yemen, and beyond.
* U.S. Attacks Houthis in Yemen
Plus: Biden staffers can't grow a pair, AI ancestor worship, Taiwanese elections, and more...
Great point. Reason wasn't critical enough of Biden, so that invalidates criticism of Trump and makes whatever he does ok.
Good job on getting it exactly backwards what Overt was saying!
I said they weren't critical enough. Because there were only dozens written about Biden's involvement and there will be hundreds written about Trump. That proves Reason is leftist.
Jefferson, incorrect. Please tell me you’re not taking pulls from that plastic bag Sevo wears around his neck.
WTF did I get wrong? Incunabulum implied that Reason didn't complain about war when Biden was president. Overt replied with a bunch of links from just the last year where Reason was critical of Biden's warmongering in Yemen. Sarc, in his desperation to troll, took the opposite meaning of what Overt was saying.
I'm critical of Reason for many things, but being anti-war is not one of them.
Sorry, I couldn’t resist taking a pull on sevo’s glue bag.
Pretty hard to argue with. Thanks for compiling a list. Reason clearly swings left overall, but it's not universal among the columnists. And there are definitely issues (like undelcared foreign entanglements) where even JacoBoehm and Emma are libertarian-ish.
They are pretty consistent on some things. War, guns, drugs, eminent domain, etc. I wouldn't even say they swing left per se. Seems more like they are more biased towards the establishment status quo. I suppose you could call some of their social positions left. But you could also call that "libertarian-libertine".
You’re starting to impress me, Zeb.
Gross. Poor Zeb.
Seems more like they are more biased towards the establishment status quo.
This. Because the old left has been abandoned for DC corporatist/globalist establishmentarianism in LGBTQQ+2S drag.
That's why historic antiwar lefties and classic liberals like Greenwald, Taibbi, Gabbard, Brand, Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin, Musk, Rogan, etc are now all identified with the right even though their views haven't changed one iota.
In any event, they need to be cut out like a cancerous tumor.
TBF, he didn’t specify who the”we’re” is referring to.
No, we’re complaining about genocide whether supported by republicans or democrats.
> Citizens of a republic should not have to perform Kremlinology—or wait for an official to fat-finger his contact list—to figure out what their leaders are planning.
Petti, who was actually running the executive branch from 2021 through 2024?
Jill Biden?
Doctor Jill Biden to you, mister.
First time I EVER voted for a democrat last presidential election and it was ONLY because Jill Stein openly expressed her distain towards the US support for the Zionist’s genocide against Palestinians as perpetuated by Israel and the U.S.
That you would support Stein shows what a pinko loser you really are.
An autopen?
The other piece of information to be gleaned here is the whole fact that Goldberg was added to this Signal chat.
Even if this is a mistake, we can discern that Waltz and Goldberg obviously have a Signal side-channel going on- one with staffers managing. That alone should be enough to raise warning bells.
Again: Waltz has a system of Signal chats going including journalists that is so expansive that he needs a staff member running it; and so complicated that the staff member is fucking up in its management.
There are just so many things wrong here- that Waltz has this signal infrastructure running; that Waltz's personal signal conversations are being shared with junior staffers; that he is doing mass adds of journalists to various government chats.
If Trump is going to distinguish himself from the Swamp, his staff needs to stop with this swampy behavior.
Good point. He didn't just type in Goldberg's handle by mistake, character by character. He chose it from a list by mistake.
Let's acknowledge that Democrats don't just accidentally include journalists in this type of shit. They invite them, poll them, tell them how to report it, etc, and then have a big circlejerk.
But how about instead of using that as cover, you demand that this fuckwhit be immediately removed from his post? You want to prove you're better/less swampy/more consistent than the other guy? Show me, don't tell me.
From what I can take away from that fuckfest is that Gabbard and that fuckwit Rattcliff need to be removed from their positions for endangering U.S. service members. Bad enough when a dumbfuck like Geraldo Rivera does that kind of thing.
How so, KAR?
You're just making this shit up as you go, huh?
Take your boner for me and stuff it up your own ass, mother’s crap pile. Not happy just murdering Palestinians that you also want to see dead US servicemen and Israelis too?
No fag. You and your fellow travelers are the ones getting people killed. We’re just cleaning up your mess.
Feel free to to thank us.
Good point. He didn't just type in Goldberg's handle by mistake, character by character. He chose it from a list by mistake.
It wasn't Waltz himself. It was a staffer assigned to Waltz who had Goldberg's number.
Finally: This article is just a big logical mess.
"The Atlantic Should Not Find Out About a War Before Congress Does"
True, but that was a mistake. The argument Mr Petti tries to make is that there are all these machinations behind the scenes. But what *actually* happened, was that Goldberg found out about our strikes 2 hours before Congress did.
No one in their right mind would argue that every internal deliberation- especially about National Security- ought to be brought to congress first.
There is a legitimate question of whether or not the Trump administration should get PERMISSION from Congress- Ilya Somin, who writes on this site at Volokh Conspiracy has previously argued that they do not:
"The president cannot initiate any large-scale military action on his own. But critics of Biden's action overlook the fact that the US strikes are not initiating a war, but responding to attack. For weeks, the Houthis have been launching indiscriminate attacks on shipping in the Red Sea, one of the world's most important waterways."
What Petti is complaining about is that Trump did not ask Congress for permission to similarly respond to a recent series of attacks. Frankly, that's silly. Trump's team deliberated their response, and then informed the entire world- including Congress- two hours later. Atlantic's leak is a side show, that doesn't change the question of whether Trump should be seeking approval.
Good recipe for "forever wars."
Remember when Trump got kudos for not being a warmonger? Yeah, well he's got a warboner now, and he's going to use it. And don't you dare criticize him for it because you didn't criticize Democrats enough.
I don’t see how responding to aggression and defense of shipping channels is warmongering. If they were attacking American flagged vessels.
^This
To be fair, that was before Trump experienced a psychiatric crisis after slurping down genocidal Zionist ball sacs. Please give me a little time to help Trump work through his psychiatric crisis.
Sorry your fellow Palestinian marxists are getting exterminated.
Responding to piracy was why the Navy was created. Literally.
Yeah but you need to go down to the bar to find some scrappers that want to fight with swords.
"Responding to piracy was why the Navy was created. Literally."
The U.S. Navy begs to differ:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Navy
Apparently the third session of Congress felt it was necessary to be explicit about the reason for construction of six frigates, which were being funded by the Naval Act of 1794:
THIRD CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES
AT THE FIRST SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Philadelphia, in the State of Pennsylvania, on Monday, the second of December, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-three.
An ACT to provide a Naval Armament.
WHEREAS the depredations committed by the Algerine corsairs on the commerce of the United States render it necessary that a naval force should be provided for its protection:
Sec. 1. BE it therefore enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That the President of the United States be authorized to provide, by purchase or otherwise, equip and employ four ships to carry forty four guns each, and two ships to carry thirty six guns each.
…
How much money did The Atlantic lose out on with the recent USAID cuts?
I don't know - maybe Congress should repeal the War Powers Act?
They should but they can't.
"The Atlantic Should Not Find Out About a War Before Congress Does"
More importantly, the war should not have happened in the first place. If American politicians would mind their own damned business and stop attacking everyone, everywhere all at once we might not need to defend ourselves quite so often. But you can put "should" in one hand and "doo-doo" in the other and see which one is weightier ...
The Houthis had been attacking everyone's shipping and had declared their intent to resume such attacks. They were already at war with us.
I should have added "... for the last two hundred years" right after "all at once," but I suspect you knew that. Of course, in the Forever Wars you can always shift the blame back one retaliation to support your position.
If you have to ho back two hundred years, then I don't really care about that argument. We cannot changevthe past and we still have to deal with the angry idiots now shooting at people because they can.
Not to mention that also does not mean they are correct in whatvthey are angry about.
"The leak became an opportunity for Democrats to clutch their pearls about the sanctity of classified information."
Seriously? You think this is pearl-clutching?
It is a huge national security leak that could have, but luckily didn't, have serious adverse consequences for those involved in the military operation. But even worse, it shows that the most senior officers in the administration are routinely flouting even the most basic security protocols.
Further, by using third-party apps, those same people are effectively preventing their communications from being stored as government records. The government obviously has lots of top secret records in its possession (Cuban Missile Crisis, 9/11, Area 51, etc.), but that stuff *is in the government's possession.* It's owned by the American people even if it hasn't been made public. But official business between high-ranking officials done through private Signal chatrooms can never see the light of day absent a leak like the one that just occurred.
It is a glaring example of the incompetence and lawlessness that characterizes this administration.
1. There was no leak of classified information.
2. The information was all about the politics and optics surrounding a potential operation.
3. Even if 'the war plan' had been leaked it would have made no difference as there's no way to have gotten that info in the right hands in the short timeframe.
There were stupid things done here but stop overstating the problem just to try to pwn orangehitler.
2 hours is plenty of time for Houthi leadership to take shelter.
They didn't have 2 hours. Goldberg just knew about . . . *something* two hours prior.
The targets and time of attack were revealed two hours in advance.
1. According to who? Hegseth? Who has a huge incentive to downplay his massive fuckup? But I have a hard time believing that "operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing" would not qualify as classified.
2. See above. The parts Goldberg directly quoted related to "politics and optics surrounding a potential operation," but it went on to provide much more specifics. Including the precise time that the strike would commence hours in advance. Regardless, there is no chance that internal discussions of senior officials regarding whether they should engage in an imminent attack on a foreign country would not be classified. At a minimum, if those chats leaked, it would have informed the Houthi targets that a strike was potentially incoming and given them an opportunity to relocate to secure locations.
3. Again, see above. These chats obviously could have tipped off strike targets and given them the ability to relocate. Even if it was just hours in advance. Electronic communications don't take that long.
4. You continue to overlook the flagrant disregard of government recordkeeping laws, which is especially problematic because Waltz set some of the messages in the Signal group chat to disappear after a certain time. Not to mention the fact that it looks like unsecured communications like this are apparently commonplace within the administration, which speaks to the potential for security breaches that have simply not been discovered yet.
""But I have a hard time believing that "operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing" would not qualify as classified.""
The information itself? Did the reporter receive that information? Or are you talking about the statement itself?
If they sent the specific information, then I would have to change my position from fire the asshole to charge the asshole.
Per the article in the Atlantic:
"At 11:44 a.m., the account labeled 'Pete Hegseth' posted in Signal a 'TEAM UPDATE.' I will not quote from this update, or from certain other subsequent texts. The information contained in them, if they had been read by an adversary of the United States, could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel, particularly in the broader Middle East, Central Command's area of responsibility. What I will say, in order to illustrate the shocking reckless of this Signal conversation, is that the Hegseth post contained operation details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing.
". . . . According to the lengthy Hegseth text, the first detonations in Yemen would be felt two hours hence, at 1:45 p.m. eastern time."
So yes, it appears that those details were shared in the Signal group chat.
Obvious Incunabulum was never in the military and knows nothing about operation security.
White House fucked up.
But I found it reassuring that there seemed to be a real discussion among different, rational viewpoints.
I found myself agreeing with Vance on this one.
"But I found it reassuring that there seemed to be a real discussion among different, rational viewpoints."
I didn't find it "reassuring." I found it appalling. Bunch of bozos expecting that Europe will reimburse them for their efforts. Of course, they didn't even bother to tell Europe--let alone the freaking U.S. Congress--before they attacked.
You mean like how defense officials lied to Trump about troops being pulled out of Syria after he ordered them to be removed?
""But even worse, it shows that the most senior officers in the administration are routinely flouting even the most basic security protocols.""
Blackberrys.
""Further, by using third-party apps, those same people are effectively preventing their communications from being stored as government records.""
True with private email servers, and non-government email addresses.
This should not be happening. Granted. But when someone of us tried to talk about years ago we were mocked.
Can't stand this "both sides" nonsense. If it was worth getting mad about then, it is worth getting mad about now. The Clinton issues received massive amounts of coverage and likely cost her the election, so I wouldn't say those were brushed over. If you thought those issues disqualified from Clinton being president then, I would love to hear why it isn't disqualifying for Trump and everyone else involved in this debacle now.
Regardless, I don't remember anything as severe as sensitive plans for imminent military actions being leaked in connection with Clinton's use of a private email server (although happy to be corrected if I'm wrong). Assuming I'm right, what is happening now is worse than what happened with Clinton. Even more because these texts were programmed with a self-destruct feature that would prevent them from ever being discovered and maintained like all government records are required to be.
Can't stand this "both sides" nonsense.
Yeah, we know, you can't stand it when it's pointed out that your side did the same shit that you're chimping out about.
""You have got to be kidding me," groaned former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, whose own presidential bid was derailed by her mishandling of classified data."
Well, Hillary ... Trump's presidential bid was NOT derailed and he's the President now and you're not! Maybe if the US government didn't classify millions and millions of documents "Top Secret" it would be a lot easier to avoid "mishandling" them?
She “mishandled” that data like Weinstein “mishandled” all those starlets.
Actions against piracy does not usually get an official declaration of war, including the most well known one, the Barbary Wars.
The Houthis announced their intent to resume attacking international shipping. They have made clear that they are at war with humanity.
The Houthis bragged about attacking an American warship, and the left whines and snivels about the US retaliating.
You can't make this shit up.
Not "pearl clutching". This is just pointing out the obvious bad-faith arguing Republicans have been using for over a decade with their "but her emails".
What should be highlighted is Hegseth's knee-jerk reply that this did not happen and both Hegseth and Trump's quick defensiveness. They immediately criticized the Atlantic based on no evidence. Their charade is wearing thin and it should be obvious to everyone now that they lie lie lie.
An actual libertarian publication would focus on condemning war. Its attitude towards transparency (intentional or not) would be to applaud it. We should be saying "glad this happened, more please!"
On another note, let's not pretend that Jeff Goldberg would do anything other than cover up an incident like this if it happened under a D administration.
From Russia
Active discussions about the future of US National Security Advisor Mike Waltz are underway in the White House following reports of a leak of information about US strikes in Yemen.
As Politico writes, citing sources, his resignation is not ruled out. According to them, nothing has been decided yet.
White House officials have warned that President Donald Trump will ultimately make a decision in the next day or two as he monitors developments following reports of the data breach.
If true, it would be bad, however one must put trust in Jeffrey Goldberg who is not trustworthy. I'm skeptical of both and frankly the corporate media has a larger hurtle than the administration solely based on the absolute lies that the Atlantic and Jeffrey Goldberg are guilty of during Trump's first term.
I say this a non-trump voter who is skeptical of the Trump administration, but not deranged like the corporate media is about anything Trump related. To me he is a mediocre president and not the second incarnation of Adolf Hitler and all things evil. I find Trump a mixed bag and some good and bad, but find that the corporate media is by and large disgusting and more bad and sometimes downright evil.
Insist that Gabbard release the transcripts.
Just file a FOIA, you stupid chimp.
Russia reporting Trump acknowledged the incident:
https://www.rt.com/news/614759-trump-reaction-waltz-yemen-leak/
If it comes from Trump’s pals in Russia it must be true.
Less Lester, not mo Lester.
The real question is, why would any serious person have contact info or digits for an Atlantic employee in the first place. That organization is like TMZ for hysterical Boomer white women to beat off to.
I think the real lesson to be learned from this shit show is how the national security directors react when they fuck shit up.
Zero Hedge chiming in on it:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dems-explode-over-leak-secret-war-plans-signal-chat-heads-should-roll
So, Democrats pounce?
For those who ever did Model UN in high school. This is like a really incompetent attempt to create a shit storm so that a diplomatic crisis can ensue. Also so that most of the pimpled incels in the chat can impress Tulsi out of her panties with emojis and repartee.
Your tax dollars at work
A bigger scandal than inadvertently including a journalist in an online discussion group of high-level officials that discusses war policies was hosting the group on Signal rather than on a presumably more secure government system that follows the law by keeping copies of messages. That one participant was in Moscow is especially disturbing. Here is an article from 19 February 2025 about the danger: "Signals of Trouble: Multiple Russia-Aligned Threat Actors Actively Targeting Signal Messenger" -- https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/russia-targeting-signal-messenger
One of them was in Moscow? Omg. What a bunch of halfwits
The level of Political discourse at the moment might be at an all-time low. There are no more social media sites, no more hobby sites, no more anything: just a seemingly unending stream of political vomit swamping all other discussion.
I hate it. This shit is just not that interesting.