Trump Has Good Reason To Complain About Limits on His Ability To Fire Executive Officers
His position is grounded in concerns about the separation of powers that presidents of both major parties have raised for many years.

Donald Trump likes to fire people, and he resents congressional constraints on that presidential prerogative. While Trump's opponents may view that attitude as one more manifestation of his autocratic instincts, his complaint is grounded in legitimate concerns about the separation of powers that presidents of both major parties have raised for many years.
A century ago, the Supreme Court held that Congress overstepped its constitutional authority when it decreed that presidents could remove "postmasters of the first, second, and third classes" only "with the advice and consent of the Senate." Based on extensive historical analysis, the majority concluded that Article II of the Constitution "grants to the President" the "general administrative control of those executing the laws, including the power of appointment and removal of executive officers."
In that case, it was a Democratic president, Woodrow Wilson, who was asserting that power by dismissing a postmaster in Portland, Oregon. Nine years later, the Court addressed a similar controversy involving another Democrat, Franklin Roosevelt, who had fired a member of the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) appointed by his Republican predecessor.
The commissioner's restrained view of the FTC's mission was inconsistent with Roosevelt's policy agenda, which was the reason the president gave for dismissing him. This time, the Supreme Court sided with Congress, which had said an FTC commissioner "may be removed by the President for inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office."
Reading that language as a limit on the president's power, the Court nevertheless upheld it, reasoning that FTC commissioners, unlike postmasters, were not "purely executive officers." Rather, the FTC was a "nonpartisan" panel of "experts" with "predominantly quasi judicial and quasi legislative" functions that was meant to be "independent of executive authority."
The Supreme Court implicitly recognized the difficulties with that approach in 1988 and 2010, and in 2020 it ruled that Congress had violated the separation of powers by putting the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) under the command of a single director whom the president could remove only for "inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office." Although the majority distinguished that arrangement from the one upheld in 1935, which involved a "multimember" commission that supposedly did not "wield substantial executive power," its logic cast doubt on the viability of that precedent.
The CFPB decision reaffirmed that "the entire 'executive Power' belongs to the President alone," which means he must have "power to remove—and thus supervise—those who wield executive power on his behalf." The majority also conceded that "the Court's conclusion that the FTC did not exercise executive power has not withstood the test of time."
The following year, the Court ruled that the principle it had defended in the CFPB case also condemned the structure of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which like the CFPB was run by a single director, whom the president could remove only "for cause." By the same logic, the Trump administration argues, the president should have unlimited power to fire the head of the Office of Special Counsel, an investigative and prosecutorial agency charged with protecting federal employees from prohibited personnel practices.
At this stage of that case, the president's lawyers are not questioning the constitutionality of independent agencies like the FTC. But the Supreme Court may ultimately revisit that issue in this case or another involving Trump's assertion of presidential power.
The CFPB decision "repudiated almost every aspect" of the Court's ruling in the case that Roosevelt lost, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in a partial concurrence joined by Justice Neil Gorsuch. They think the Court should explicitly overturn that 1935 precedent, which they say blessed "unaccountable independent agencies" that "exercise vast executive power outside the bounds of our constitutional structure."
They have a point. Under the Constitution, the federal government consists of three distinct branches: legislative, executive, and judicial. In recognizing an amalgam that is independent of presidential control, the justices effectively authorized a fourth branch of government that the Framers never imagined.
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ALSO, JS/DR
This time he was actually kinda fair. His take seems to be that there are problems with what Trump is doing, but they aren't new or unique to him. Lots of presidents have asserted this ability, historically.
SO, the issue lies with Congress or the judicial branch about how to curb this. If they should.
And it concludes with a pretty open admission that regulators appointed by Congress to the Executive that the Executive can't dismiss effectively represent a fourth branch that isn't accountable to the others or the public.
The real question is how retarded does sarc feel now after yesterday's thread when even Jacob can see the issues.
Surely he will muster the energy to at least copy-paste "this article doesn't exist".
The problem with retards like sarc is even after their retardedness is shoved in their face they still insist on being retarded.
Are you all right Sullum? This was an actually rational article that involves Trump.
JS;dr. I'll have to take your word for it.
It's shockingly sane.
What could possibly go wrong with empowering a political claque of sycophantic hacks seeking to Make The Spoils System Great Again ?
What could possibly go wrong with an entrenched deep state and leftists like yourself believing an entrenched bureaucracy has no political accountability?
And will also lead an impeachment effort when the President's foreign policy goes against the unelected bureaucracy's preferences.
Thats' (D)ifferent. It's for all of the correct reasons.
Is this Fakey Jakey coming to the bargaining stage, or the acceptance stage?
JS;dr, but I sense there must be a "but" at the end of that headline.
Somehow there wasn't. I made it all the way through.
I am impressed Jacob. Finally an actually good analysis. One we've been making in the comments for weeks now. One volokh already addressed. But you wrote an entire article without spittle and anti trump messaging. So good job. This was hard for you, but a good first step.
All of this is based on just a few words "The executive Power shall be vested in a President" and ignores "he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed". To hold that the president can fire any executive branch employee at will means everyone in the execute branch is effectivly a political appointee. This gives the president too much power to ignore or neglect to follow the law, as we are seeing now. That is a radical interpretation of just a few words. Congress has the ability to identify people in the executive branch who shall do their job without the interference of politics.
"...To hold that the president can fire any executive branch employee at will means everyone in the execute branch is effectivly a political appointee..."
That is absolutely true, and it takes a brain-dead lefty shit to assume otherwise; every one of those people serve at the pleasure of the POTUS.
Oh, and fuck of and die, shitbag.
There is nothing in the rest of the Constitution that supports that interpretation and many parts that go against it. The Constitution puts more power in the hands of Congress than the President.
Here the Marxist denies the concept of coequal branches.
Where is the congressional authority over Article 2 found in article 1?
Oversight doesn't mean control.
The concept of "separation of powers" and "co-equal" do not appear explicitly in the Constitution. Quite the opposite. Each branch has some checks over the other. The Constitution gives Congress far more power over the Executive and Judiciary than they have over Congress.
We have taken the idea of "separation of powers" and "co-equal" so far that we have lost sight of the actual text of the Constitution.
You ignored the question through filibuster.
Where in article 1 does it give control of how article 2 operates authority?
Congress can impeach and remove a President. The President can't do squat to Congress.
Well yes. And how many Presidents have been removed by the Senate after impeachment? Yes, the Dems in the House, controlled by Pelosi, impeached Trump twice, once even after he had left office (voluntarily), on an almost party line vote. It was a political stunt. The other was to keep control of the RussiaGate evidence, and away from Trump - a continuation of the Mueller investigation. And got nowhere in the Senate. So, yes, it’s a power that Congress has over the President. BFD. It’s been a long, long, time since the opposition party has had even close to the 2/3 majority in the Senate required for removal.
Lol. No. It is based on understanding the constitution and having read the discussions at the time such as in the Federalist, and finally constitutional analysis by the USSC.
God damn you're retarded.
I see you learned a new phrase last night.
Who wrote this and what have you done with the steaming pile of TDS-addled shit Sullum?
It came after the OpEd in the NYT. Jacob just parrots what's in there.
The founders did not envision a federal government (and an executive branch) with the vast scope and power they have today.
If the founders could imagine a "unitary executive" with this quantity of power, you can bet they'd say that's too dangerous.
The Founders, of course, could and did envision people wielding the executive power who weren't removable at will by elected officials, which is why they explicitly prohibited federal titles of nobility with Article I, Section 9, clause 8.
The founders had definitely never heard of kings.
Almost every part of the Executive Branch is assigned to a committee or subcommittee of Congress. That means it is the legislative branch that has the power of broad oversight over the executive.
This is precisely why the President was explicitly constrained to requiring advice and consent of the Senate for his senior appointees.
The Constitution explicitly places vesting of 'lesser appointees' in the authority of Congress, or the Heads of Departments (the ones who require advice and consent to be appointed) or in the Judiciary - subject to Congressional law.
Why the only explicit executive authority (outside CinC and maybe treaties/negotiating with foreign powers) of the Prez is for all senior appointees to be required to submit their opinion, in writing, of whatever is happening in their departments to the Prez. That is a VERY narrow definition of Presidential executive authority. Indeed, the executive looks more like a cabinet-based executive rather than a unitary Prez executive since it is the Heads of Departments who have hire/fire authority within their department.
The only exception where part of the Executive Branch is not assigned to a particular congressional committee for oversight is the Executive Office of the Presidency. That is where the Prez can 'reorganize' almost at will. It is also where very few jobs there require advise and consent of the Senate. And 'recess appointments'.
Congress has abdicated its oversight authority for over a century. In large part because it is easier for the corrupt to limit oversight and hide their corruption by putting those activities under the oversight of appointees and a Prez than under a rambunctious congress with tons of eyes. So - limit the size of Congress and you also limit the oversight eyes. Even the committee stuff of Congress is now done by corruptible appointed staffers (of well-entrenched incumbents who have no accountability to constituents and who are the committee heads) - not by the elected.
It is time for Congress to grab its nutsack and do its job. And for SOME political party to force the fucking issue
Stop reading Vox. This is completely wrong.
Your ilk should read the Constitution
To start with, these other powers of the President are secondary to his power as the Executive. Article II starts off by reciting that: “The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.” All of his other powers are listed in other, later, sections. Giving department heads, and their designates, the power to hire and fire is merely for his convenience - a necessity with over three million people under his direct authority, and millions more under his indirect authority, as contractors.
As for there being committees and subcommittees in Congress for most every function in the government is for their convenience, not the President’s. They can perform “oversight” as they want (and you suggest that it isn’t near enough), but the fundamental Executive power and decisions are his, with Congress only able to provide some limitations.
The subject of this post was that, despite the wishes of the Democrats, currently out of power in all three Branches, there are certain, very important, limits on how much the Legislative branch can tie the hands of the President with his Constitutional Executive Power.
As for the Appointment Power, yes, for top appointees, the President nominates, and the Senate confirms. But at that point, their power ends, and his doesn’t. He can pretty much fire them at will. Whenever Congress has attempted to add conditions to their dismissal, they have, for the most part, ultimately been rejected by the third branch, the Judiciary. Trump just fired the remaining holdover USAs. Likely there aren’t going to be much litigation opposing this, because the Judiciary has already spoken. Even the FBI Director was fireable, despite attempts by Congress to curtail this power of the President.
The dilemma is that we want the President to be able to do the job of running the executive branch, but only within the bounds of "faithfully" executing the laws passed by Congress. Not to mention that all government employees, whether appointed by the President or hired in staff roles expected to last beyond the term of any one President, need to obey the law and the Constitution, even if ordered to violate the law.
It is not a balancing act that is in any way unique in government or history. The goal is to try and find ways that lower-level government employees can resist pressure to follow orders from higher up that would abuse power or violate the law. While, at the same time, preserving the ability of those higher ups to make sure that their lower-level subordinates aren't the ones abusing power, violating the law, or implementing their own policy preferences instead of the policies of the elected President. (Edit: And, naturally, to be competent at their jobs.)
What I am most skeptical about right now is whether the Supreme Court is really going to want to find the right balance for that and not rule based on who the current President is.
Hayek wrote about something he called rechtsstat. Rule of law state. Specifically for the admin/bureaucracy state. The part of the executive that needs to be constrained by the laws that the legislature puts together, by the executive for organizational stuff, by the judiciary to make sure that agencies aren't violating individual rights of citizens outside government.
Our Constitution doesn't do this. The admin/bureaucracy state wasn't around in 1789 so there was no concept of what could be considered other branches of government. The judiciary would need a Constitutional amendment to make it happen. To formalize a role for the 1st Circuit Court - the DC circuit that only deals with admin/bureaucracy - and a more explicit fleshing out of the 10th amendment. Because the legislature is frozen and won't do any more oversight as new laws get passed - and giving any extra power to the exec is just power to a charismatic dictator. And wih the exception of election laws, the bureaucracy is not really a separate branch of govt
Our Founders didn't want a monarchy, so they designed the Legislative Branch to be in charge. The Executive Branch was to follow the will of the Legislature.
Here is Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor: "Our founders were hellbent on ensuring that we didn’t have a monarchy," Sotomayor added. "And the first way they thought of that was to give Congress the power of the purse."
Trump is taking on Legislative powers in defiance of the Constitution. I can see conservatives wanting a monarch running roughshod over hated libs, but I don't get why Republicans are so willing to surrender their Constitutional authority.
There is no Constitutional Authority for a [Na]tional So[zi]alist Empire.
Cherry-pick all you want ... Legislation NEVER had that power to begin with.
Thus ... being out of Legislative 'authority' the legislation should be VOID by the courts and if the courts won't do it the Executive has every CONSTITUTIONAL ********* REQUIREMENT ********** to do it by oath of office.
Congress can always change the statutes to allow at will and no cause terminations for any executive branch and independent agency personnel, including those confirmed by the Senate. Allowing presidents to ignore statutes which ban and/or restrict this is invites, and likely ensures, dictatorship. I favor a strong executive president who obeys valid laws, which should give presidents more power than they currently do.
Well, maybe. Low level employees maybe should be removable for cause, or redundancy. Civil Service may be able to guarantee them a job, but not a specific job. And when there are too many somewhere, when they can’t be reassigned, they can have their numbers reduced. Too many of these disputes involve the Deep State claiming to have power over the President and his appointees as to where and how resources are allocated. With USAID, this has come to a head, because much of its budget turns out to have been spent, in recent years through federal bureaucrats funding other countries and NGOs to do stuff that is contrary to the explicit intent of the President, under whose ultimate authority they operate. But it’s ultimately under his authority that they operate, and most often their discretion to act, and make these funding decisions is his, and only theirs by discretionary delegation.
They have a point. Under the Constitution, the federal government consists of three distinct branches: legislative, executive, and judicial. In recognizing an amalgam that is independent of presidential control, the justices effectively authorized a fourth branch of government that the Framers never imagined.
Deserves a repeat.
No... There isn't any Nazi-Agencies branch in the USA Constitution.
Leftards are AMAZING at flipping sh*t on it's head.
Seriously. Calling the dismantling of the Nazi-Empire UN-Constitutional?????
The Nazi-Empire ***IS*** UN-Constitutional.