Presidents Should Not Ignore Court Rulings
Vice President J.D. Vance believes presidents can ignore the courts in some situations. Are we heading for a constitutional crisis?

When the U.S. Supreme Court handed down its ruling in the 1832 case Worcester v. Georgia, so the story goes, President Andrew Jackson responded by declaring that "[Chief Justice] John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it."
That's probably not a direct quote—it didn't appear until more than 20 years after Jackson supposedly spoke it—but the sentiment it captures is fairly accurate. Jackson plainly did not agree with the court's ruling in that case, which dealt with how states could legally interact with Native American tribes, but the matter was resolved when the state of Georgia repealed the law that triggered the legal battle in the first place.
Jackson's quote, apocryphal as it may be, retains a place in American presidential history not because of the specifics of that case—but because of the vibes it projects. It exposes an unsettling conundrum at the center of the American experiment in self-government: Can the courts serve their constitutional role as a check on executive power if the president simply says "no"?
That's a thought experiment that some conservatives seem dangerously eager to test out. In recent days, President Donald Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, and others in Trump's inner circle have publicly floated the idea that judges should not have the power to review executive branch actions or to block actions judged to violate existing laws or the Constitution. Neither has offered a challenge as pointed as the one Jackson supposedly did, but some legal scholars are spooked about the possibility of a constitutional crisis.
All this started on Saturday, when U.S. District Judge Paul Engelmayer ordered the Trump administration to prevent Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) from accessing payment systems within the U.S. Treasury.
In response, Trump said on Sunday that "no judge should, frankly, be allowed to make that kind of a decision." Vance fleshed out that idea in a post on X, arguing that "judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power."
"If a judge tried to tell a general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal," Vance wrote. "If a judge tried to command the attorney general in how to use her discretion as a prosecutor, that's also illegal."
Deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller has taken the argument a step farther. In a post on X, Miller said "a lone unelected district judge" cannot "assume decision-making control over the entire executive branch." Later, he wrote that "if a district court judge wants control over the entire executive branch…he should run for president."
Trump, Vance, and Miller have a First Amendment right to disagree with a judge's ruling and to criticize what they see as the implications of that ruling, of course. Those criticisms might even have legal merit. Indeed, under the U.S. Supreme Court's "political question doctrine," the entire judiciary system is generally expected to steer clear of making policy decisions or otherwise infringing on the powers vested in the executive and legislative branches. It's certainly fair to argue that Engelmayer may have violated that doctrine with his ruling on Saturday.
But there is a difference between disagreeing with a judge's ruling and questioning whether the judicial system as a whole has the authority to decide such things. Anyone who believes a judge's ruling is wrong is free to appeal that decision to a higher court. The final decision still rests in the judicial branch.
Some recent developments are calling into question whether the Trump administration will continue to recognize that. On Monday, a different federal judge said the Trump administration was defying his January 29 order telling the Trump administration to unfreeze some federal funds. In cases dealing with funding freezes for the National Institute of Health and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Trump administration has also been accused of ignoring court orders.
It's worth noting that Trump is also openly defying a U.S. Supreme Court ruling unrelated to the DOGE-led attempts at cutting and reorganizing the executive branch. Last month, the high court upheld a federal law requiring that the social media site TikTok must be sold or banned. Rather than complying, Trump ordered the Justice Department to simply not enforce the law for 75 days. (Yes, that's a stupid law, but the president does not have the authority to disobey Congress and the courts just because lawmakers do something stupid.)
"The new Trump administration may be heading in the direction of disobeying court orders that go against it," writes Ilya Somin, a professor of law at George Mason University, in a post for The Volokh Conspiracy, a legal blog. "If they do so and get away with it, there are likely to be dire consequences for our constitutional system. An administration not bound by court orders is ultimately not bound by the Constitution and the laws, either."
It would be easier to take a charitable interpretation—that is, that Trump and his allies are merely registering their disagreement rather than engaging in open defiance—if Vance, in particular, did not have a well-established track record of advocating for such defiance.
During a podcast interview in 2021, for example, Vance invoked Jackson's infamous words while answering a question about how a future Republican administration should take on the administrative state. "When the courts stop you, stand before the country like Andrew Jackson did, and say, 'The chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.'"
"That scenario, if it came to pass, would be a bona fide constitutional crisis," wrote Reason's Stephanie Slade at the time.
Vance has made versions of that same argument in other contexts. In 2022, he told ABC News that the president could simply ignore "illegitimate" court rulings, even if they came from the Supreme Court. Asked by Politico last year about his comments on that 2021 podcast interview, Vance confirmed that he believed presidents should defy court orders that deal with the executive branch. Here's his whole response, which is useful for understanding what seems to be the prevailing view within the so-called New Right:
"For me, this is not a limited-government thing — this is a democracy thing. Like, you need the bureaucracy to be responsive to the elected branches of government," he said. "The counterargument is, you know, 'Aren't you promoting a constitutional crisis?' And my response is no — I'm recognizing a constitutional crisis. If the elected president says, 'I get to control the staff of my own government,' and the Supreme Court steps in and says, 'You're not allowed to do that' — like, that is the constitutional crisis. It's not whatever Trump or whoever else does in response. When the Supreme Court tells the president he can't control the government anymore, we need to be honest about what's actually going on."
We're not yet quite in the scenario Vance outlined in that interview, but we're getting closer. Trump's attorneys are now following the proper course of action and appealing some of these cases. It seems almost certain that the Supreme Court will have to step in at some point—either to tell lower courts that the political question doctrine limits their ability to check Trump's power over executive branch programs and payrolls, or to tell Trump the opposite.
If the latter, what will the president do? The fact that it's an open question is worrying enough.
"Refusing to follow a court order crosses a very clear, very dangerous line," warns Michael Waldman, president and CEO of the Brennan Center for Justice, a think tank housed at New York University's law school. "If Trump refuses to follow court orders, especially from the Supreme Court, we will have tipped from chaos into dire crisis."
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Can the courts serve their constitutional role as a check on executive power if the president simply says "no"?
Ask Joe Biden - - - - - - - -
Missing from this entire screed is any mention of Biden or Democrats.
What a hack writer.
Boehm reluctantly did not mention Joe Biden and the Democrats so he could strategically smear Trump and Musk.
When did Biden ever defy court orders, or threaten to do so? Biden is unmentioned because did nothing relevant to the topic. Duh.
The subject of student loan forgiveness springs to mind.
Who ties your shoes?
"Last month, the high court upheld a federal law requiring that the social media site TikTok must be sold or banned. Rather than complying, Trump ordered the Justice Department to simply not enforce the law for 75 days. (Yes, that's a stupid law, but the president does not have the authority to disobey Congress and the courts just because lawmakers do something stupid.)"
Wondering how DACA and DAPA fit into this conversation, when the Obama/Biden administration exercised "prosecutorial discretion" on millions of people in the country illegally - as a reminder, those people could "defer" deportation (prosecution) by simply paying $429 fee to the government. Eventually, the courts identified the programs as illegal, but the Biden/Harris administration kept them going...
Or when Biden acknowledged that he didn't have authority to forgive student debt, then he forgave it, and courts told him he couldn't, then he said he didn't care he'd keep forgiving student debt?
I would have expected those two recent examples to have been mentioned here...
The current topic isn't about them, so what's the point in bringing it up? And how would that make it any better? "The other guy did a bad thing, so why can't our guy do the same bad thing?!"
Of all the court orders ever ignored by presidents, this retarded, massive power grab by a low-level judge in defence of grift should be the most ignored ever.
But, yeah. Did Boehm ever write anything about Biden giving the finger to the supreme court?
The background here is that President Biden announced in August 2022 that he planned to take executive action to cancel $10,000 in federal student loan debt for most borrowers.
His stated justification for doing so was the Higher Education Relief Opportunities For Students (HEROES) Act of 2002, which allows the Secretary of Education to “waive or modify” provisions of federal student loan law “as the Secretary deems necessary in connection with a war or other military operation or national emergency.”
If you read the law, it’s fairly clear that the statute’s intent was to benefit members of the military (the law’s titular “heroes”), but regardless, the Biden administration argued that the text was broad enough to allow a much wider cancellation (with Covid-19 as the relevant “national emergency”).
To make a long story short, the Supreme Court did not agree, ruling 6-3 in June 2023 that the Biden administration’s cancellation went beyond the allowable “waiving and modifying” and instead constituted an “exhaustive rewriting of the statute.”
After the ruling, the Biden administration did not carry forward with the program, but did try to relieve student loan debt in several other ways.
One such effort — aimed at expanding existing loan forgiveness programs for specific groups (such as people who went into public service or people who attended fraudulent schools) — succeeded in cancelling debt for 5 million borrowers.
Two other attempts — one a new income-driven repayment plan and the other a program to offer relief to a targeted group of borrowers — were blocked by the courts.
Why weren’t these efforts a defiance of the Supreme Court’s 2023 ruling?
Because the Supreme Court did not rule in Biden v. Nebraska (the case that struck down the initial, most expansive plan) that the Biden administration could not cancel student loan debt. Rather, it ruled that the Biden administration could not cancel student loan debt in that specific way, under the authority of the HEROES Act. The two plans that also ended up being overturned relied on an entirely different law as justification, the Higher Education Act of 1965.
In essence, the court told the administration it could not do something because a certain law didn’t allow it. The administration didn’t do the thing. Then, the administration tried to achieve a smaller version of the same goal by using a different law, to see if that law would allow it. The courts said it couldn’t do that, either, and so the administration didn’t. Nothing about that is unusual.
There’s one more thing to note here, though. Almost every time the Biden administration canceled student loan debt under the existing programs — which no courts ever stopped and which had nothing to do with the actions struck down by the Supreme Court — the president would send tweets like this:
The Supreme Court tried to block me from relieving student debt. But they didn’t stop me. I’ve relieved student debt for over 5 million Americans. I’m going to keep going.
That tweet has circulated recently because it was shared by Elon Musk, in an attempt to argue that Biden had ignored an order from the court.
Biden may have had a political incentive to make it sound like he was standing up to a conservative-controlled court to deliver student debt relief — and not simply using pre-existing programs, as was the case. To admit that probably would have made his own actions seem less impressive, but it also would have avoided the impression that he was acting in opposition to the court (an impression he seemed to think would be to his political advantage to leave). It’s hardly a surprise that impression has festered as a result.
Thank you for the background.
So Biden made it look as though he defied the court and paved the way for an actual demolition of checks and balances.
On Twitter, FFS.
Boehm: "All this started on Saturday"
Biden: "They told me it was unconstitutional, I knew it was unconstitutional, but I ignored them and did it anyway."
Boehm: *crickets*
Democrats did it first, so it’s ok!
Democrats did it first, so only democrats can do it.
Or maybe it's not okay when anybody does it? You don't need to mention every time in history that people did bad things to comment on a current bad thing that somebody is doing.
Could you provide a link to that quote?
Do we need to teach you how to use google sealion?
How retarded and obtuse are you, Molly?
Very
Yes.
Then it should be easy for you to find that quote.
Not exact words, but same says the same thing.
“The Supreme Court blocked me, but it didn’t stop me.”.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=423439656927201&id=100077835098866&set=a.108973695040467
Technically speaking, Biden did stop doing what the Supreme Court ordered him to. Instead, he changed it to lowering loan payments, which was not blocked by the courts.
You do know what paraphrasing and making a joke are, right?
She does not.
MAX_INT
Probably any number of them. But you have agency too, don't you?
Maybe you've been living under a rock and missed it. So sad.
>>Are we heading for a constitutional crisis?
did no person ever explain rock, paper, scissors to you?
I will simply quote fictional character Billy Jack here: "When policemen break the law then there is no law, just a struggle for survival."
I deny that it is whataboutism to point out here that the Constitution has been violated repeatedly mostly by Democratic administrations over a very long time for the purpose of expanding Federal government power far beyond any pretense of Constitutional separation or balance of powers through a combination of Congressional collusion with and eventually ceding of their legislative responsibilities to the Executive branch; and Supreme Court social engineering through legislation from the Bench. It is quite disingenuous for "Reason" writers to demand that the broken and irreparable Constitutional mechanisms be utilized by the Executive branch to roll back the unconstitutional socialist program that broke those constitutional mechanisms in the first place!
Yeah, sorry, but this is just more of the same DNC talking points posing as principles.
The Democrats re-wrote the rules on endless executive power. The gentlemenly Mitt Romney-type would have refused to do the same out of some misguided belief that there is any reasoning with D's. Trump is the first R to play by the rules they wrote, and now they want to take their ball and go home. Go fuck yourself.
Not a Republican or a Trump guy, but if he is going to use executive power and unelected boogeymen to unwind generations of damaging Democrat overreach, I'm all for it.
If it comes to the Supreme Court versus the Executive, okay. But what we're looking at is a single district level court, not even an appeals circuit, making a ruling on policy that affects the entire executive branch. That's not co-equal branches of government, that's just judicial supremacy if any circuit-level court can make a ruling like that. The breadth of some of the TROs being issued is insane.
And even if the court is found by a higher court to have completely exceeded their authority to make an incorrect ruling, they still think the executive branch needs to be put on pause until appeals are heard? That's problematic. District level judges shouldn't be able to make rulings that put them above the chief executive.
A fact that most people don't want to confront is that federal judges and district court judges in particular are the most arrogant actors in government. They are the unquestioned finders of fact however biased and absurd their conclusions. They have the unquestioned ability to rig trials to produce those facts. They can never be fired or, as a practical matter, disciplined in any way. They are guaranteed a fat salary and lifetime pension and benefits. They never have to answer to a constituency. The only obstacle they will ever face is having whatever tyranny they seek to impose overturned as a matter of law in the superior court, a process that can easily drag on for years. They will never pay a personal price. In the case referenced above a district court judge issued a 1:00 AM TRO essentially shutting down the actions of the entire executive branch of government without a hearing. The order itself is literally a cut and paste of the plaintiffs entirely speculative claims. If someone is creating a constitutional crisis the finger points directly at the judge.
And the defendant had no chance to respond. It was a completely ex parte ruling. Again, who is causing this supposed constitutional crisis?
Yeah, it's pretty absurd all the way down. Pretty sure this guy is an appointed judge too, which makes it all the more absurd.
Thomas mentioned this fact in a case a few years back. These lower level courts are inferior courts. Executive vs USSC, yes they are equal. But with the judicial shopping for activist judges in inferior courts to undo article II authority, it needs to stop.
Thomas called out these inferior courts dictating both policy and execution in a discussion on national injunctions.
I'm not sure how they reign in the bad actors but the Supremes are getting fed up with this crap. First of all it's a stunning assault on the separation of powers and it forces the higher courts to take emergency action to undo the damage. District court judges are appointed because they know the right politicians or hang out with the right crowd at the country club. They are not qualified to be writing law.
“I'm not sure how they reign in the bad actors”
I have some ideas, but I don’t think Tess Holiday could actually eat all of them.
Judicial impeachment. Make them great again.
Fed up?
Perhaps its just D and R turtles all the way down that the Supremes are balanced upon.
The ruling is a starting point. Trump and Company can file an appeal. SOTUS likely will take the case if it goes that far. That's what leaders do when receiving a adverse ruling, no throw tantrums.
It's not like the incoming missiles are about to hit. There's nothing about these EO's that can't survive a few months going through the courts.
Ahh yes. Use the slowness of the courts to benefit democrats. Always benefiting spending and corruption.
Ignore corrupt rulings against the constitution. Got it.
Your ask would have merit if these judges or DAs were held accountable for their unconstitutional rulings or acts.
Fuck off.
Just think of the hundreds of millions, probably billions, of dollars of graft that the Dems and Deep Staters, will be able to procure, thanks to these court orders. That’s the purpose of these orders - to contest to receive billions in graft as long as humanly possible.
It’s really bad is when the status quo ante is hundreds, of billions of tax payer money in graft every year, and these courts are intentionally thwarting the popularly elected President, the Constitutional head of the Executive Department, from stopping it.
What retarded logic. They were getting billions, now they will get the same billions through court orders, do we shouldn't cut off the billions.
The entire point is the orders are unconstitutional dumbass. As Turley and others have already discussed, this is the same as the first term. Activist low level inferior court judges making unconstitutional or illegal rulings getting appealed and overturned.
Your solution is to never fight, just spend billions lol.
Instead articles of impeachment should be issued against these judges.
Some of these are so bad even dem constitutional lawyer believe mandamus will be granted.
Your belief system is why corruption is never fixed.
I don’t think that you understood the sarcasm in my comment. One of the factors in granting equitable relief (in this case TROs and Preliminary Injunctions) is preserving the status quo ante. My comment was to the absurdity of using that factor to perpetuate the $billions$ in graft being obtained by Dems and the Deep State. Turns out that at least a couple of these judges or their families are, or were, recipients of this graft.
"District level judges shouldn't be able to make rulings that put them above the chief executive."
And there is some USSC precedent to that effect, from what i've read.
https://www.oyez.org/cases/1850-1900/71us475
There's actually a lot of reasons this judge shouldn't have made this ruling. It's not the right venue-the Southern District of New York doesn't have any particular jurisdiction over the Treasury Department. It's overly broad. It violates the "political questions" doctrine.
The problem is that people expect Trump to abide by the ruling even if takes weeks to get overturned, and he has zero remedies. It was a ruling made ex parte, without the Treasury Department getting a chance to even argue the case. The judge is a political appointee and there's no punishment for making an incorrect, politically biased ruling. And if the President even questions what the appropriate response is to this kind of judicial overreach, dumbass writers will claim he's causing a constitutional crisis.
I think I've made it clear I'm not the biggest Trump fan in the world but I'm much more on the side of the President being able to run the executive branch than making every district judge able to tell the President what he's allowed to do.
I didn't even know that it was done ex parte. That's even worse.
The president of El Salvador fired all the judges who were protecting the gangs. Get rid of these crooked judges too.
The President of El Salvatore has also offered to house US criminal migrants but I'm sure one exception can be made here.
“constitutional crisis”
Lmao, Boehm got the talking point. How embarrassing.
Fucking clown
https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=constitutional+crisis
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889556875588284593
Funny
Still following the same script I see.
Hahahahahahah!!!!
Democrats did it 1st - Boehm
When?
It is known.
It is your strawman.
Obama lost how many USSC cases? Biden and student loans?
God you're such a terrible representation, but accurate one, of leftists.
Biden and student loans, except in Biden's case it was the supreme court he was ignoring and not some district useful tool.
After Biden lost at SCOTUS on student loans, he revamped his efforts to use authorities that were on much firmer legal grounds. SCOTUS never said student loan forgiveness was illegal, just the particular method Biden was using. Which is the exact opposite of ignoring SCOTUS rulings.
That's not even remotely true. This isn't Huffpo, Tony. You can't just make reasons up.
Which is why he was rejected by courts every time retard.
Hahahahah, you dumb fucks can't read. The whole 1st paragraph is Boehm talking about democrat Andrew Jackson ignoring SCOTUS. Fucking retard. I love your tears. Cry harder.
In fairness, the parties have changed just a bit from the time of Jackson. For one thing, the Whigs no longer exist.
Courts should not ignore Article II of the constitution.
Fuck off Boehm.
Imaging defending activist courts who have now orders the executive what to say, put deep state Bureaucracy over political appointees, and ruled that the Executive can't audit or get rid of waste.
You're the fucking problem with beltway libertarians Boehm.
We need something stronger in the English language than fuck off for to tell Boehm.
"Hey, how are we spending so much money. Let's look at our bills."
No, significant other you can't see the bills or access them even though your name is on them.
Fuck off you insane Marxist cunt. If we are in a Constitutional crisis it is because a lone judge decided in the dead of night after an ex parte plea with no legal backing to hijack the entirety of the Executive branch of the United States but according to Boehm not doing as this judge demands is the real problem. Fuck you.
Yeah, there’s a fuck ton of issues with that court’s ruling. Why is Boehm only looking at one side of the equation when it comes to exceeding authority? There are orders courts should not issue because they don’t have the authority.
Because Boehm has TDS as bad as Sullum or Sarcasmic.
Boehm is a slimy pile of TDS-addled shit who needs to fuck off and die. Can't be said often enough.
Democrats did it first and you didn’t say anything. That makes it ok.
When?
Doesn’t matter. It’s the new ad hominem retort. If you don’t like it you’re a leftist.
Even for a drunk you’re stupid.
If you only knew what "ad hominem" meant.
Sarc has displayed a growing list of words he clearly doesn’t understand. Some even after repeated, detailed explanations.
Democrats did it first and Sarcassmic didn't give a shit. Only now when Orange Hitler is ignoring an overstepping district judge instead of the Supreme Court, is it a problem.
Isn't this retort exactly what he is parodying ?
Backwards. Sarcasmic's mad that people here are poo pooing the idea that Trump doesn't have to follow an unconstitutional order from a New York court functionary, but he didn't give a shit when the Supreme Court itself made a unanimous, very constitutional order and Biden ignored it.
He's principled that way.
It was (D)ifferent when Biden did it.
And here's the daily strawman.
Oh here we go again.
2017-2021: These district courts are out of control!
2021-2025: Imma gonna launch a bunch of cases from some obscure district in Texas in order to challenge Biden!
2025-present: These district courts are out of control!
Judges who agree with Democrats need to be impeached or otherwise removed from office.
Judges who disagree with Republicans need to be impeached or otherwise removed from office.
Anyone who disagrees is a leftist.
Well you are a Democrat and you didn't give a shit that Biden was ignoring the Supreme Court and not some bribed New York functionary...
Cite?
Yes. This.
You can sealion with everyone else but don't feel like backing up your assertions, Jeffy?
Also, where was your opprobrium, Jeffy, when Biden told the supreme court to fuck itself, and not just some crooked Letitia James crony in New York putting up illegal and unconstitutional roadblocks for his paymasters?
Hey Jeff, is there any ruling a judge could make that Trump should not ignore?
"The Biden Administration should ignore the court" - AOC, 2023 [video]
Razorfist's take.
I'll just get this out of the way for Sarc.
Yes.
The little critter's of nature, they don't know that they're stupid.
I have to ask Boehm what he thinks the limits on the court’s power should be. Can a district level court issue a TRO preventing the president from signing any executive orders? Or, rather, if such a ruling was issued, would the President have to abide by it until it was successfully appealed? And isn’t that comical, the idea that perhaps biased plaintiffs could cycle through tons of different districts, constantly issuing these ex parte TROs that the administration therefore has to follow until they can have them struck down?
Who is causing the constitutional crisis, then? The courts who are trying to usurp the power of the presidency or the president who considers how to deal with those usurpations?
It is a problem when judge's act like members of a political branch and go beyond their authority to judge the law in order to influence policy.
There may be some question of law in what DOGE was doing, but it appears the judge went far outside his writ when drafting the extent of that order indusallowing the Presudent and the Secretary from exercising their duly delegated authority.
There really aren’t. DOGE was merely executing, with full Presidential authority, his duty to faithfully execute his duty as the Executive to preserve and protect the country. That includes eliminating wastefully spending the People’s tax monies.
Is not one of the problems with the judge's ruling that it could be interpreted to mean that the duly appointed Treasury secretary is disallowed from exercising authority over the department?
That would indicate that the judge's ruling is illegal and likely unconstitutional in itself, and has created an untenable situation where a bureaucracy is uncontrolled by the elected executive. The order cannot and shoukd not be followed.
"Vice President J.D. Vance believes presidents can ignore the courts in some situations. Are we heading for a constitutional crisis?"
Only if the Biden/Obama/Bush activist judges make it a crisis.
Plus, there is a critter called "separation of powers."
This requires the three branches not over-reaching their powers over one another.
The executive branch does indeed have a right to expose waste, fraud and corruption if and when it occurs, and I find it fascinating these activist judges are doing everything in their power to stop the exposure of wasteful spending like USAID has been doing for the past four years.
the whole system is so degraded and partisan that you really cant put any weight on the judges. All the judges are team players. They will find a way to rule in a way that helps the team. They are not disinterested legal minds simply coming to the right conclusions. This has been the case for decades but i think we are reaching a turning point where the whole system KNOWS the courts are just there to support whatever team is in charge and can get enough judges in to validate their plan.
The actual question of propriety, legality, consitutionality, none of these matter.
Hint: the rise of the term "lawfare" is not a coincidence.
Constitutional crisis is the new Russia Russia Russia. GFY boehm, you are a regime rat.
If President Trump ordered a federal judge to rule a case in a certain way, it would be an obvious breach of the separation of powers. The same can be said about a small time federal judge ordering the president to make political decisions in a certain way.
Can the courts serve their constitutional role as a check on executive power if the president simply says "no"?
The issue is this--
It is not 'the courts' who serve a a check on the president, it is the supreme court and the congress to whom those duties have fallen.
Not to some random judge somewhere who decides he doesn't like a policy.
^+1. Especially when the opposition 'jurisdiction-shops' to something like the famously lefty and often-overturned 9th.
But it wasn't a "crisis" when millions of people crossed our borders illegally or a political party carried out a soft coup to prevent a sitting president from running for reelection?
Two things can be bad at the same time. But given that the executive branch has already bombed countries without declaring war and has ignored court ruling as recently as the last admin, why is Trump triggering a unique constitutional threat? The last 4 years was nothing BUT a crisis. Reason didn't seem especially alarmed that FEMA avoided houses with Trump signs. A government actually discriminating against people over politics - not a crisis that deserves front page treatment?
Boehm is a steaming pile of TDS-addled shit who needs to fuck off and die.
You mean judges like this?
McConnell is the kind of judge who, before he got his sweetheart gig, donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democrats, is on the board of a government-funded NGO that is seeing its funding frozen, whose daughter works for the Department of Education. He was a donor to the Obama, Clinton, and Joe Biden campaigns in 2008, covering his bases. He was also a major donor to Senator Whitehouse--and then he was appointed a federal judge. He was on finance committee for Hillary, Planned Parenthood Board member.
Judge McConnell - says transgenders need special sentencing privileges. McConnell insist it's okay for judges to let personal opinions influence their decisions. He admits to exclusively hiring black people solely because they were people of color.
Judges should follow the law, not make it up. The law should be neutral
Reason fire Boehm. Let him go write for media matters.
Trump won the election. He is using the presidential power bestowed on him. Why does a judge decide if the boss of the federal government can freeze funds? Isn't he the boss? Are Federal funds a right?
U.S. District Judge Paul Engelmayer ordered the treasury department head not to access the records either. I don't remember the judge complaining when China accessed them.
Yes, Musk the richest man in the world is going to steal grandma's social security check.
Boehm you hack! It's protecting fraud and the money circle that theses judges are doing.
As I read this judge's ruling, if the FBI wanted to investigate fraud and required access to government payment records to collect evidence, this judge's order would forbid that.
But there is a difference between disagreeing with a judge's ruling and questioning whether the judicial system as a whole has the authority to decide such things.
Yes there is a difference - but this crowd has spent 50+ years inventing living Constitution 'originalism' when they want to and decrying 'activist' living Constitution when they want to do that.
There is no 'Constitutional crisis' if they once again switch from one side of this to another. Because there is in fact almost nothing in Article 3 that gives the judiciary much power to do anything at all. Now that the R's have achieved their goal of forcing women into subservience to judges/priests, they can ignore whatever judges say about men in power.
There are many reasons to flesh out an Article 3 into a legitimate and significant role as a third branch of government. It's the branch that was clearly seen as potentially tyrannical to individuals - as it is the focus of the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th amendments - where the 6th and 7th establish sortition (random selection - a jury) as the constitutional means of ensuring freedom against tyrannical decisions of government.
It's the branch that could serve as a real check on the legislature, the executive, the admin state - if it were empowered to create juries on issues of equity or negative justice or investigation/audit or somesuch. But this crowd wants to limit standing - not expand it. And generally wants to diminish juries. And ain't no constitutional amendments gonna be passed in my lifetime.
"Now that the R's have achieved their goal of forcing women into subservience to judges/priests"
Hahahahaahahahah.. you're so fucking ridiculous.
Low Level District Court Judges should not get in front of their coverage either. District Courts should not be able to file an injunction on issues that are clearly within the granted authorities of the Executive or Legislative Branches. Further, they are not NATION WIDE judges, so their rulings should extend no further than the district they are appointed in.
The administrative branch should ignore all these minor judges rulings. Let the judges take it to the Supreme Court if they want, and argue on the merits of the decision for an "equal branch" ruling. If the administrative branch ignores that, then you have a constitutional crisis.
Has he actually defied the court ruling?
No, but Boehm likes to line up all his orangemanbad in advance.
And now that the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals just tossed the halting judge’s order he doesn't even have to.
Now impeachment for the judge.
Coulter had a good point in her Substack:
“ USAID itself was created by executive order. The man who controls 100% of the executive branch is supposed to listen to a dinky little district court judge, who represents, at most, .05% of the judicial branch? Administering a program totally within the executive branch is simply not an exercise of “judicial power,” the only power courts have.”
The Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 was passed by Congress in September 1961 - mandating the creation of an agency, authorizing its programs, and funding it. The EO by JFK (in Nov 1961) merely created what Congress had already ordered and shuffled the existing agencies into it.
Coulter has no good point at all.
And where in that law does it require the department to spend every penny on useless leftist whims jfree?
Trump is using a de minimus closure, doing the bare minimum required by law retard.
You clowns think the scandal is whatever minimal 'foreign aid' spent on trans bathrooms in outer Mongolia. I think that shit is stupid but it helps you R's with the rest of the world by proving how out of touch D's are.
You otoh are totally ok with billions spent on regime change, creating famine, undermining democracy, etc. Which undermines boaf sides and provides continual evidence to those who hate America why America should be opposed. But hey DeRpty DeRp
Ilya Somin had absolutely no issue with Biden refusing to enforce immigration law, or when Biden defied a court order to retain unused material for the border wall and instead kept selling it off at pennies on the dollar.
And it cannot be within the purview of a district court judge to tell the Executive Branch what content they should have on a government website.
Boehm, Sullum, Lancaster, Chemjeff, Sarckles, the news just broke. So sorry that this is happening to you. Thoughts and prayers.
BREAKING: 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals just ruled against halting judge’s order requiring the Trump administration to unfreeze federal funding
Also:
JUST IN: A federal judge confirms President Trump has the constitutional authority to freeze or limit federal funding.
Now that that unpleasantness is out of they way we can take a look at the judge, free of crazy accusations of a smear job because the judge no longer matters.
USAID: The swamp is deep. One of the activist judges blocking Trump's agenda, Judge John Bates, is married to the founder of a USAID-funded NGO. Carol Rhees is a Democrat lawyer who started Hope for Children in Ethiopia a long-time USAID grant recipient.
and,
Before Judge McConnell ordered Trump to restore USAID funding and called him a tyrant he was accused of buying his lifetime judicial appointment. He spent over $700K contributing to Democrats and funneled thousands to his state's two senators who recommended his appointment to Obama. They refused to recuse themselves from his confirmation vote.
and,
The Obama-appointed judge that threatened the Trump administration with arrest if funding was not restored to USAID previously likened Trump's first term to the Civil War and Jim Crow and compared Trump to a tyrant in 2021 video footage uncovered by @nataliegwinters.
Judge McConnell is an activist who has no business sitting in judgement of the president or his administration.
Funny how Boehm never mentioned any of this, isn't it? He's either very biased or very bad at journalismising.
I'm shocked the leftists are wrong yet again in their understanding of the constitution.
BREAKING: 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals just ruled against halting judge’s order requiring the Trump administration to unfreeze federal funding
Tip to aspiring writers-avoid double negatives where it's possible, in order to maintain clarity, both for yourself and your readers. So the court ruled AGAINST the halting of the judge's order? Meaning they upheld it?
EDIT: Ah, so it seems the court denied Trump's team's request to halt the TRO, meaning they didn't grant the President a stay on the TRO, pending appeal. Meaning the 1st circuit has said Trump has to end the spending freeze.
SCOTUS needs to weigh in on whether inferior courts can impose the will of an activist judge on the entire country and/or the executive branch.
To me, it’s downright silly that either side can venue shop for a favorable judge to intervene in a separate and equal branch’s purview. It is basically a constitutional crisis of sorts.
That doesn’t make it right for the Executive to ignore rulings and injunctions. The proper course is to have SCOTUS scuttle the scheme altogether.
It stinks that if you can’t win at the ballot box you can override the will of the people by venue shopping.
Fortunately the 1st circuit just tossed the ruling, but yeah, these questions need to make it up to the Supremes somehow.
Fair and necessary criticism. Ignoring a judicial order should not be an option. Appealing it should be, especially as lower court judges are more likely to be clueless political hacks.
Unfortunately for Boehm, appealing it is what they did and the first circuit just tossed the judges order.
What I read, was they 'ruled against halting' the judge's order, so the double negative makes it weirdly sound like the injunction on the funding freeze is still in effect.
Am I just reading that incorrectly?
A comment I made earlier at Althouse:
" A Constitutional Crisis. It has characteristics, notably, when one of the three branches tries to get out of its lane, asserts too much power. "
With the libs, the left, listening to their MSM, my rule of thumb is to look in the direction that their MSM is trying to distract us from looking. The problem right now is that the lower level judiciary, packed by recent Dem Presidents, at the behest of esp leftist Attorneys General, is significantly intruding into the inner working of the Executive Branch, which is trying to get its Deep State and their employees under control, as promised by Trump during his campaign for President. Separation of Powers says for these leftist activist judges to get back in their own friggen lane, and stick to actual Cases and Controversies before them.
I expect that the 6-3 Supreme Court, will be busy its next year, on its Emergency Docket, slapping back into line the insurgents in the Judiciary Branch that it heads. We know which way that they will jump, from their recent decisions in favor of Trump. Three Justices are strong conservatives, very cognizant about what the Dems are trying to pull. The soft power of the Judiciary is at stake, so they will typically have the Chief Justice’s support. The other two will follow. That makes it a fairly secure 6-3 voting block.
How do we know that it is the soft power of the Judicial Branch that is at stake? Because people like Dershowitz started mentioning Marbury v Madison - the original source of the Judiciary’s soft power. He knows what’s going on and the stakes, and so does CJ Roberts.
Dershowitz also mentions that President Andrew Jackson is said to have responded to the Supreme Court's ruling in Worcester v. Georgia with the words "[Chief Justice] John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it!" Marshall took power for the Judiciary with Marbury, and Jackson asked him how he intended to exercise it, and enforce the will of the Judiciary, against the will of the elected President and his Executive Branch. The answer is that for over 200 years now, it has used its soft power, based on the appearance of impartiality. And that is what these leftist Dem judges and state Attorneys General threaten.
>Presidents Should Not Ignore Court Rulings
At the end of the day, the court's authority is solely moral.
If the judges are undermining trust in institutions, why should we not ignore them?
See above - your moral authority is my soft power.
The Dems Dems are not doing themselves any favors, in this regard, utilizing conflicted or corrupted US District Court judges to issue these TROs. Several of the judges utilized have been, or had family who have been, involved with USAID and other funding agencies, and the NGOs they fund. If the goal is to maintain moral authority, then the conflicted judges should have immediately passed the cases onto non conflicted judges. It’s the appearance of bias that is the issue, and that the soft power of the Judicial branch is based on the idea that they are unbiased.
>It's certainly fair to argue that Engelmayer may have violated that doctrine with his ruling on Saturday.
If so, Trump is just supposed to bend over and take it?
>But there is a difference between disagreeing with a judge's ruling and questioning whether the judicial system as a whole has the authority to decide such things.
But the disagreement IS OVER WHETHER OR NOT THE JUDGE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE SUCH THINGS!
JFC.
I'm just gonna put this here. Read it, and await mother irony coming in to kick you lot in the nuts:
https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/06/supreme-court-strikes-down-biden-student-loan-forgiveness-program/
"Trump's attorneys are now following the proper course of action and appealing some of these cases."
Boehm, "BUT, BUT, BUT wwwwhhhhhaaaattttt *if*".........
Seems the #2 character strength after the #1 ability to Self-Project (blame their own problems on everyone else) is to create imaginary straw-men to attack.
Vice President J.D. Vance believes presidents can ignore the courts in some situations. Are we heading for a constitutional crisis?
FLAT OUT LIE. What the current Executive branch KNOWS is that refusing to roll over when the court issues rulings outside of the authority of the Judicial branch is as much part of checks and balances as the courts issuing rulings about what the Executive and Legislative branches can do. WHEN that happens, Congress settles the issue by impeaching the party that is wrong.
I admit ALL THREE branches have ignored this for decades.
It's "amusing", or maybe pathetic, or maybe hypocritical, that poor Eric makes such a great show of struggling over the "hard question" of whether a man who sought to stay in the Oval Office after, you know, LOSING THE ELECTION, has respect for the law. It seems to be a sort of libertarian "style" not to connect the dots.
Biden defied the courts on student loan forgiveness. He essentially spent billions that were not appropriated by Congress. Eric Holder chose to ignore a congressional subpoena and the ensuing Contempt of Congress charge because it fell to him to enforce it which he didn’t. If Dems can ignore the courts, why not Trump? The issue here is the judge ruled that the Secretary of Treasury didn’t have the right to see Treasury data! If not him, who? When judges make completely unconstitutional rulings, they should be ignored.
Every president ignores court rulings. The whole "constitutional crisis" nonsense is just the latest narrative.
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