Amanda Knox Was Falsely Charged With Murder. Italy Calls Her Coerced Confession 'Slander.'
"I can tell you that I have never been put in a position of doubting my own sanity like I was in the hands of those police officers," Knox tells Reason.

When Italy's highest court exonerated Amanda Knox of murder in 2015, the bulk of her adult life had been consumed by a legal saga that began during her time as a study abroad student in Perugia, Italy. That odyssey quietly continued, however, for yet another decade, culminating this week in that same court upholding her conviction—not for murder, but for slander.
In 2007, Italian authorities accused Knox, a 20-year-old from Seattle, Washington, of murdering her roommate, Meredith Kercher, in what the lead prosecutor said was a bizarre sex game gone awry. The evidence invoked against her, which included mishandled DNA, was spurious from the outset. Most importantly, it included a highly coerced confession, during which she implicated her boss at the time—something that would come to dog her not only during her trial but for years after.
Following Kercher's murder, law enforcement took little time zeroing in on Knox and Raffaele Sollecito, Knox's boyfriend of one week, despite that the DNA evidence went on to overwhelmingly implicate Rudy Guede, who ultimately served 13 years. During her 53-hour interrogation, Knox was slapped, screamed at over the course of multiple days in a language she did not speak fluently, and was not permitted to go to the restroom when she got her period. She was made to believe, she says, that she had repressed memories of the murder, which she needed to unearth if she wanted to help police and see her family again.
"A lot of people like to think that, if they were in my shoes, nothing short of being beaten with a rubber hose or dangled out a window would get them to implicate themselves or others in a crime that they knew they were innocent of," she told me late last year on The Reason Interview. "Obviously, the research speaks otherwise. But speaking from personal experience, I can tell you that I have never been put in a position of doubting my own sanity like I was in the hands of those police officers."
After law enforcement continued demanding she furnish a story, she eventually named someone: Patrick Lumumba, her boss at a bar she worked at part-time, who was arrested and spent two weeks behind bars before an alibi set him free. Though Knox's 2009 murder conviction was overturned in 2011 and thrown out for good in 2015, she was reconvicted of slandering Lumumba in June of last year, which the Rome-based Court of Cassation has now allowed to stand. The European Court of Human Rights had previously ruled in Knox's favor, saying police violated her rights by declining to give her a lawyer and employing an inadequate translator.
Slander under Italian law is not completely analogous to the U.S. "After I signed those statements, and it turned out that my boss obviously was completely innocent and had nothing to do with this crime, even after I retracted those statements, I was accused of having maliciously and intentionally slandered him in order to divert the course of justice," Knox, who spent four years in prison after her 2007 arrest, told me. "I was found guilty of that crime, and I was sentenced to three years in prison for that crime. And technically, in Italy, they say that I served rightfully three years in prison for the outcome of that interrogation." In other words, law enforcement officers got what they had insisted on at the expense of the truth—a confession. And then they successfully prosecuted her for giving it to them.
Coerced confessions are a leading cause of exonerations, something younger people are disproportionately vulnerable to, and which Knox has made a focal point of her advocacy post-release. The effects can follow a defendant for life—the reason why she says fighting this particular charge mattered to her.
But Knox no longer feels the need to place that same burden on herself when outside of the courtroom. "I have given myself the grace to not feel the burden of having to explain myself to every single person out there," she says. "That's in large part due to having met other wrongly convicted people. Before I did, I felt this horrendous obstacle of, 'If I'm going to belong to humanity again, I have to explain myself to every single person,' and I have given up on that horrific, impossible task. I do not feel compelled to do that."
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During her 53-hour interrogation, Knox was slapped, screamed at over the course of multiple days in a language she did not speak fluently, and was not permitted to go to the restroom when she got her period. She was made to believe, she says, that she had repressed memories of the murder, which she needed to unearth if she wanted to help police and see her family again.
Every time I hear this story it gets more and more sensational/unbelievable. Another 2 or 3 renditions and she will have been gang raped over a broken glass coffee table until she confessed.
In the vein of immigration and the 14A, why isn't equal coverage of this issue being granted to Patrick Lumumba, whom she, even if under duress, actually did falsely accuse? Knox at least knew Guede beforehand but, my understanding is aside from Knox, Lumumba didn't know any of these people and was somewhere else at the time.
Assholes torture the SHIT out of an innocent person, until they (the innocent torturee) point the finger at a person that the assholes find acceptable ass a scapegoat... And Casually Mad AGREES that innocent person is GUILTY ASS CHARGED for slandering, under the rack and hot boiling oil, of SLANDER against "person that the assholes find acceptable ass a scapegoat"!!!
Does shit get ANY better than this, Oh Ye Devout and Devoted Servants and Serpents of the Evil One?
(Italian courts can SNOT bring themselves to EVER admit that Italian Power Pigs EVER made a mistake!!! Twat an UDDER slurprise!!! And Casually Mad AGREES with Italian PervFect Power Pigs and courts!!! ALSO twat an udder slurprise!!!)
She wasn't tortured. Indeed, even in her most extreme version of her claims, she doesn't claim she was tortured. For a time she said she was hit, but every court (even the ones who ruled in her favor on the murder charge) said that was false, so she eventually dropped that claim. Now she claims she was psychologically pressured.
The problem with the psychological pressure claim is she had been basically questioned about an hour when she gave her statement claiming she was present at the murder scene and that Patrick committed the murder. She was presented with 2 facts, both true: that Rafaelle was no longer backing her alibi and was saying she had been gone from his apartment at the time of the murder (he later switched back to his original claim that she was there), and that she had falsely told the police she had not responded to Patrick Lumumba's text when she had.
Presented with those two facts, she made her statement saying she was at the scene and Lumumba did it. They then terminated questioning and arrested her.
The next morning, she made a SPONTANEOUS statement (she had not been interrogated any further) to the police that said she wasn't sure of what was dream and what was reality, but she still believed Patrick had murdered Kercher. When she offered to make this second statement, police asked her if she wanted a lawyer and she said she did not and waived her right to counsel.
Given those facts, I don't see how she had any hope of getting her false statements conviction overturned. The second statement was also a false statement, implicating Lumumba (who stayed in jail 2 weeks after being arrested in front of his young kid based on Knox's statement that he did it, and who was only released when police exonerated him, because Knox never retracted her accusation even though she told her mother later that she was responsible for Lumumba being in jail). Even if we assume some sort of diabolical interrogation technique that produced the first statement, the second one was voluntary, spontaneous, made after a waiver of the right to counsel, and did not say "actually Patrick Lumumba was not involved and I shouldn't have said that he was". She just did not have a valid defense to this, and that's why she got convicted.
Rudy Guede is guilty. He was found so, the forensic evidence actually points to him, and the Italian justice system is such a joke that it's worse than our own.
I remain unconvinced that Amanda Knox's tale and Amanda Knox's tale alone is improving the state of our Court of Public Opinion.
Andrew Cuomo procedurally killed some 14,000 people, then covered it up, and was eventually removed from office for
rape,assault,a documented history of harassmentgetting handsy with women. Don't get me wrong, if I could legally get away with it, I would put the guy in the ground, but you'll forgive me if I don't consider our own cultural and justice system beyond reproach."said she wasn't sure of what was dream and what was reality, but she still believed Patrick had murdered Kercher" -- she said "I stand by my statements that I made last night about events that could have taken place in my home with Patrik, but I want to make very clear that these events seem more unreal to me than what I said before, that I stayed at Raffaele's house". The "could have" indicates equivocation, and the second part makes "very clear" that, on balance, her memory is that she was at Raffaele's (and so could not have seen Patrick murder Kercher).
1. That's not inconsistent with what I said.
2. More importantly, it's obvious BS. If she wanted to say "I lied, I have no evidence that Patrick was involved, I wasn't there", she could have. She didn't, and instead gave the police a statement that would allow her to choose whichever alibi she wanted later while not getting Patrick out of jail.
Indeed she never gave that statement even while telling her mother that Patrick was in jail because of her.
And that's why she's guilty of the false statement.
Police gaslit her, falsely telling her there is proof she was in the apartment when Kercher was killed. She couldn't imagine the police would lie, so she started doubting her own reality. If police had injected her with LSD and she imagined things as a result, would she be "lying"? "gave the police a statement that would allow her to choose whichever alibi she wanted" -- a statement which asserts two contradictory things can't be taken as asserting either one.
Police told her 2 things, both true:
1. Rafaelle was no longer supporting her alibi and was now saying she left his place at the time of the murder.
2. They knew she lied when she said she hadn't replied to Patrick's text (they had his texts and knew this).
In response to those 2 TRUE statements and only about 1 hour into the interrogation, she said she was at the scene and fingered Patrick.
There was no "gaslighting" (and at any event cops are totally allowed to gaslight you and you still have to tell the truth to them or stay silent).
And your comparisons to being on drugs are nuts. Somehow people are interrogated by police all over the world, even 20 year olds, and they don't falsely accuse innocent people of murder. And at any rate, none of what you said is a LEGAL defense. Even if you feel bad for her, she had no legal defense to the false statement charge.
"cops are totally allowed to gaslight you and you still have to tell the truth to them or stay silent" -- but that's screwed up. If cops cause you to doubt your own memories, it's not your fault that, lacking memories you can trust, you fill the picture with something else. Especially when you TELL the cops that that's what you're doing, as Knox did in her second statement. If an eyewitness says "The guy I saw COULD have been the defendant, but I want to make very clear that more likely it wasn't", is that a lie worth three years in prison?
At some point, if you are railing with "these techniques that police departments in reasonably free societies all around the world use are actually horribly oppressive", I mean, I get that argument (indeed, there's certain techniques I would probably agree with that critique on), but at that point, you aren't making an argument about current law. You're saying we should change the system.
And if that's your argument, it doesn't get Knox off, because she was convicted under the system we have now, where such tactics are permissible.
Your other 2 arguments are just repeats:
1. The criminal law is not riddled with 20 year olds making false accusations to police, which indicates that Knox's reaction wasn't some sort of natural reaction to standard police conduct. She did something the vast majority of people in that situation know better than to do.
2. You can't spin that written statement. Most likely, it was Knox's attempt to give herself room to either say what she is now saying, or say that she was at the scene, depending on what the forensic evidence showed. It's actually an incredibly damaging statement for Knox with respect to the MURDER charge, let alone the slander charge.
But whatever she was doing, she didn't just say "I lied, I wasn't there". She said some convoluted BS that continued to allow for the possibility that Patrick did it. And that's enough for a false statement charge to stick, and it did.
"She said some convoluted BS that continued to allow for the possibility that Patrick did it" -- but that's true of every witness who gives equivocal testimony. If she's actually unsure of her memories, why is it wrong (let alone criminal) for her to say so? If she is in fact sure of her memories, but says she's not, that might be willful slander. But what disproves the possibility that she was actually unsure of her memories? It's certainly possible to doubt your own recollection after being authoritatively told that it is wrong. E.g. Martin Tankleff falsely confessed to killing his parents, after police told him (falsely) that his father accused him before dying. He just couldn't imagine that his father could falsely accuse him, or that police would lie -- so he started doubting his own memory. Knox's second statement describes exactly this state of being unsure which memory is true. Why couldn't that have been her actual state?
OK, wise guy, point out previous versions of this story which were less ... interesting.
You haven't got the guts to back up your words.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/04/amanda-knox-meredithkercher
I don't think you know what the word 'guts' means, given your apparent shit for brains, I could understand the confusion. One might've wondered why you would be arguing against another narrative or even another victim's narrative, but then, you open your mouth and demonstrate that, like Giuliano Mignini, one narrative is about all you can handle.
You sound like one of the stupid brutal interrogators you so admire. Ask a friend to read what you wrote.
"My understanding is" --- but who are you ? A nobody
At least her kids will now be Italian citizens.
With the Equal Rights Proclamation, she can sit there and like it without regard for her period, just like a man.
No one expects the Italian inquisition.
Mama Mia!
Bopadabopee!
That three years time served sentence for the slander raises an interesting question -- if not for the slander justifying her three years in prison, would the Italian government owe her compensation for that false conviction? Seems mighty convenient.
Yet, you would cry like a spanked baby if 1/3 of that happened to you. We have your posting history.
You had this interview THREE MONTHS AGO, Billy. Why are you still just recycling its talking points as if it's new reporting?
Interview Conducted - October 2024
Podcast where she talks about having "never been put in a position of doubting my own sanity" replayed from the October interview - November 20, 2024
"But speaking from personal experience, I can tell you that I have never been put in a position of doubting my own sanity like I was in the hands of those police officers." - December 14, 2024
"I can tell you that I have never been put in a position of doubting my own sanity like I was in the hands of those police officers," Knox tells Reason. - January 24, 2025
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Podcast where she talks about "I have given myself the grace to not feel the burden of having to explain myself to every single person out there." - November 20, 2024
"I have given myself the grace to not feel the burden of having to explain myself to every single person out there. That's in large part due to having met other wrongly convicted people." December 14, 2024
"I have given myself the grace to not feel the burden of having to explain myself to every single person out there," she says. - January 24, 2025
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ps. the answer to the question at the very top is: it's not reporting, and you are not a journalist. You are hack fake trash. And nothing is more illustrative of it than this THIRD "article" of rehash with literally nothing new or informative whatsoever added to it.
I don’t understand the point of fixating on the flaws in the Italian judicial system. We have enough to contend with here in the US.
LOLertarians glom on to people like Knox because they think that brickbats make the indisputable case for anarchy.
Mostly just because they are always - and want to legally be - high.
Speaking of high, one of the theories on her bizarre behavior (including doing cartwheels in the corridor at the police station) was that she and loverboy had taken LSD or something the night of the murder.
Talk about a bad trip.
There's also the fact that it makes for sensationalist, fabulist clickbait journalism. Why report actual facts of documented stories with loads of witnesses from multiple angles when you can report just the one side of a conversation in a room with two people in it?
Not exactly just the judicial system either. In a very real sense, this is kind of a lynchpin example of Karen-izing the world. Knox is/was an affluent white girl who clearly had visions of an "Under The Tuscan Sun" summer and is cashing in when she learned that reality isn't entirely unlike 'Taken' instead. Sorry, Amanda, if you want to waitress part time, get high, and fuck Fabricio, or whomever, you're going to get a police force that's generally opposed by people like Fabricio who work part time, get high, and fuck dumb, American waitresses. If you need the police to provide you sparkling water on demand and #believeallwomen, you need to go to LA. However, if you do go, don't be surprised if the place is on fire, no one gives a shit that you're an American waitress, and the guys are effeminate creeps.
She, as an adult, spoke to the police without a lawyer present (in a language in which she wasn't fluent). That's a stupid idea in this country and even my 11 yr. old knows not to do it. It doesn't justify a kafka-esque wrongful conviction, but all the solutions with even fewer people involved in the conversation don't provably or reasonably reduce those odds.
Bitch got away with it
Yeah whatever. When do we get an update on Villarreal?
LOL. Fuck you.
What are the police in Outer Mongolia doing? This story feels too local.
Why are we still caring about this again?
Are we still pretending that the rights protected in the US exist elsewhere?
There are many principles that underlie Ius gentium and do believe all her complaints are there. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Jus gentium publicum is a type of law that governs the relationships between nations and international organizations. It also applies to individuals who invoke their human rights
Article 7
All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Article 8
Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.
Article 29 #2
In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
Having been raided by a dozen cops in body armor over allergy medication, I can understand how difficult it can be when pressured by several large heavily armed men.
However, she did choose to name a real person and blame him for the crime, as opposed to going the fugitive route, say a one armed man did it.
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She has a pretty good podcast. I listened to her on Rogan a few years ago and her story is pretty strange. I had no reason to doubt any of it and subsequent information including her release from prison seems to substantiate most if not all of it.
It points out the fact that if you are not in the US the laws and enforcement have different boundries as to what they can do to you, in some cases they have none.
And every time they slapped her, she heard a Wop!
Just trust the authorities - right lefties?
Police in the US routinely subject Americans to psychological torture to extract false confessions. Examples of this abound. I'm sure it's more acceptable in Italy, a country with fewer freedoms, but this happens in virtually every town in the US, so it's not really much less acceptable here. Police convince themselves that they are forcing the "truth" from their victims, but in fact, they have already found a suspect and are building their case on the conclusions they have already drawn. "Following the evidence" simply doesn't happen in these cases.