Joe Biden Once Understood Why Tariffs Are Bad. Then He Got Trade Policy Amnesia.
Despite campaigning against Donald Trump's tariff hikes, Biden left many of them in place.

In the January 2025 issue of Reason, we're giving performance reviews of Joe Biden's presidency. Click here to read the other entries.
While he was interviewing for the job, President Joe Biden demonstrated an acute awareness of how tariffs work. It's worrisome that he seems to have forgotten that—or, worse, chosen to ignore it—since he's been president.
In June 2019, Biden correctly described the effects of higher taxes on imports. Donald Trump, who was president at the time, "doesn't get the basics," Biden said. "He thinks tariffs are being paid by China. Any beginning econ student…could tell you the American people are paying his tariffs." Around the same time, he criticized Trump's reliance on tariffs as a tool of foreign policy, saying that higher taxes on Americans was a "shortsighted" way to combat China's "abuses." In place of his predecessor's zero-sum view on trade, Biden advocated for a "united front of allies" to take on China while opening up other markets.
Biden's résumé seemed to confirm he had a firm grasp of trade policy. As a member of the Senate in the 1990s, Biden supported the North American Free Trade Agreement. During his time as vice president (2009–2017), Biden helped organize the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), a planned-but-never-implemented 12-nation trade deal that would have lowered tariffs, increased American access to foreign goods, and boosted the economic fortunes of those other nations. The deal was also widely seen as a way to put pressure on China, which would not have been a member.
Trump blew up the TPP when he took office in 2017. Disappointingly, Biden not only failed to bring it back; he also failed to undo Trump's tariff hikes.
Then Biden started adding to them. In May 2024, the Biden administration announced new tariffs on steel, aluminum, semiconductors, electric vehicles (and the batteries used to power them), and other goods from China. In July, he hiked tariffs on some steel imported from Mexico to block steel from China that might be imported via America's southerly neighbor.
It remains true that any freshman econ student could tell Biden who would pay the cost of those tariffs. If the president needed more convincing, he could have reviewed any of the several studies published in recent years showing that Americans paid for Trump's tariff hikes.
Those decisions made little economic sense and contradicted Biden's longtime record as an advocate for lowering trade barriers. They also demonstrated questionable political judgment. The president touts his bipartisan infrastructure bill as one of his top accomplishments—but insisting on Buy American policies and heightening other trade barriers means higher costs for taxpayer-funded construction projects.
Similarly, Biden pushed for a bill to help Americans afford electric vehicles, then approved tariffs to make those same cars more expensive, if they are imported from China.
At best, Biden's trade policy exhibits confusion and incoherence. At worst, he appears to be endorsing policies that he knows(or once knew) would not be in America's interest.
Trade policy performance review: unacceptable; should review freshman economics
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Come January 2025, there will be a change in trade policy. Meaning, we'll have a President with a functioning brain and common sense, once again. It has been a long 4 years. Help is on the way. ????
Unfortunately, the incomer is an economic ignoramus who doesn't know what tariffs are or what a trade deficit is. His respect for individualism and mind-your-own-business extends about as far as my respect for Marxism, and his common sense doesn't include cutting spending. The incomer is better than Biden, he does have a functioning brain, he's not a warmonger, and he scares the living piss out of Progressives. I doubt he'll drain much more of the swamp than he did first time around, but he'll at least scare them for a couple of years.
So he used tariffs his first term, why didn't they cause the problems you insist they will this term? And tariffs actually were the primary funding source of the federal government until 1913 or so when they tricked us into letting them "tax the rich" instead, look how well that turned out.
If Trump hadn't used tariffs His first term, we'd be colonizing Pluto by now! You think that since the world hasn't imploded because of His tariffs yet, then tariffs (no matter HOW high) aren't bad? If I shoot off 10 rounds at you from 5,000 yards, and I miss every time, then you'd be OK with me shooting off another 200 rounds at you from 20 yards? That seems to be your "logic"!
So he used tariffs his first term, why didn't they cause the problems you insist they will this term?
Didn't they? Are things as inexpensive as theynwere in 2016? How much were tariffs part of these price increases?
But OK, there were no major issues for 3 years with Trump 1.0 limited tariffs, but after Biden upped them, all bets are off. Now, Trump 2.0 wants to increase tariffs exponentially.
The president has limited tariff powers based on emergency situations. Last term he declared certain goods to be vital to national security and tariffed them. But he couldn’t tariff all goods. That’s why he’s framing immigration and drugs as an existential crisis. By saying there’s an emergency situation he can bypass Congress and put blanket tariffs on everything from the counties where drugs and immigrants are coming from.
He’s framing ILLEGAL immigration as an existential crisis because it is, you dishonest fuck.
If you want to collapse healthcare, housing and sanitation infrastructure just to provide cheap labour to the oligarchs, you're a corporatist. And if you want to subsidize cheap labour for the oligarchs, and pay $2k/mo allowance, plus free food, housing and healthcare to the rest of the world, go be generous on your own dime.
But you don't actually care about either of those things. You're hoping to import a new, permanent electorate for the Democrats, and a have a cheap troll the comment section, you bad faith fuck.
Exponentially?
A lot; more than double; a great deal more than before; "exponentially" in the the common informal use meaning a large increase, not the mathematical technical use.
Depends on the exponent
2^10
Or 2^(1/10)
Now we're getting to the crux of the matter.
No. Exponentially has an actual definition. A single flat multiplier being proposed with reductions if other countries reduce their tariffs or costs imposed on the US is not the definition of Exponentially.
Arguing as the grammar police because of my imprecise use of language is a sure indication that you concede the actual point.
He attacks to distract from the point for the same reason he argues against things you never said. It’s all to get you to react defensively so he can change the subject to you. Then he’s in his element. That’s why when you talk about, say, tariffs or trade, his responses are about you, some deliberate misinterpretation of something you said, or something you didn’t even say. Not tariffs or trade.
He’s a pig. If you wrestle with him you will get dirty, and he will enjoy it. Don’t give him the pleasure. Best to not engage.
Sarc doesn’t spend much time here anymore.
Tariffs were not a significant factor in recent inflation. Regulations, normalizing COVID emergency spending, and strangling energy production are.
Don’t get stuck on stupid.
Funny how most of that didn't occur until your leftist buddies shut down the economy and then installed their ignoramus puppet.
My leftist buddies are to the right of you on this issue.
No. Globalists are still on the left. Framing their corporate asks as free trade is just falling for bumper sticker bullshit.
Government funding for exploitation of labor and allowing other countries yo manipulste markets is not a free market no matter how many times you claim it is.
Free trade is actually a 2 way street, not one way as globalists describe.
You're fooling yourself that a government-planned economy isn't leftist, but a free market is because it's "globalist."
Two governments interfering with free trade is not more conservative than one government interfering with free trade. It's just more MAGA and more leftist.
There is no free trade.
Grow up.
Grown ups pay the government with each purchase and advocate to pay even more so that we can transfer that wealth some dying industry and it's union workers? Are all grown ups are socialists? Or does grow up = give up?
You’re a fucking moron if you think it benefits us to only let foreign countries put their thumb on the scales. If you want that shit to end, we have to push back. They’re not going to do it on their own.
That's an extremely vague and oversimplified rationalization.
What happens when we put our thumb on the scale? First, the other side presses harder. In the long term, do we save our dying industries, do we negotiate better trade deals or do we just pay more taxes, subsidize farmers and other industies damaged by the trade war with tax money and tank our planned economy?
Which of us is the fucking moron? It will be years before we know.
Trump’s first term tariffs were on a small number of targeted products. They did raise prices, but on a limited scale.
What he is promising for his next term are blanket tariffs on goods from our top three trading partners. That will cause the price of everything to go up from groceries to car parts. Otherwise known as inflation.
Hey buddy looks like you were lying yesterday when you said:
You see, I don't spend much time here anymore. It's become an echo chamber for retarded Trump defenders who absolutely hate libertarians which, while as exiting and exhilarating that might be for you, is fiendishly boorish and boring to me.
What he is doing is putting tarries to modify behaviors. Which you ironically admit to and the scream protective tariffs on the same thread. It is amazing to watch you swing back and forth.
For the 3 nearby trading partners it is to get them to help reduce costs of their inaction. Similar to the NATO spending demands he made in his first term. And shockingly all the countries agreed to reform their behaviors and work to reduce the costs on the US.
For the non American trade partners, except China, he says this is the floor until they reduce their tariffs. Again, behavioral change, not protective.
And again you intentionally ignore the rest of his economic policies. Increasing energy supply and reducing regulatory costs. You were even in the thread last week where you saw the regulatory costs were 2.5x the estimated, and very high estimates ignoring supply shifts. So of the energy/regulatory reductions are greater than the tariffs, which we didn't see a cost increase for prior, then ultimately consumers will save money. Shocking how that works.
Now go back to rarely being here again lol.
I think we should also remind everyone that yesterday the shitty troll also admitted that he's just here to harass those not on his "team", instead of coming to engage in honest debate as he purports:
"The great lengths you go to in your defense of Team Trump are just amazing. I frankly don't care, which is why I didn't click any of those links that I never saw. I just find it amusing to watch how emotional and shrill you get when you defend Team Trump."
When people offered him hard evidence that contradicted his narrative, he refused to look because that would wreck said narrative, and he would have a harder time telling lies and trolling. Which, in his last sentence, he admits to being his aim and goal.
Of course he admitted something similar on March 10 of last year (2023):
"Because annoying you all is fun."
As well as several years ago:
sarcasmic
August.12.2021 at 4:45 pm
Flag Comment Mute Use
I only show up to watch the clowns duke it out, while tossing in this or that provocation. Bread and circuses. This is my circus.
Never let this drunken fuck ever tell you that he just here for honest debate again, folks.
He's here to troll and nothing more.
This is what it looks like when imbeciles who are incapable of talking about ideas try to shift the topic to the person they are arguing with, not what they are arguing about.
We try, and you pull your trollish bullshit. Now you get a beatdown. Like when you run your mouth at the bar.
IDEAS™ !
You have no ideas, you shitty troll. None. All you do is troll. I've never seen you present a single idea that wasn't tied to trolling people.
As I demonstrated with your own fucking quotes, you are a troll and nothing more.
Which imbecile keeps giving the wrong definition of free trade buddy? You. Lol.
Should I post it again?
Maybe if you didn't choose to be ignorant you could actually propose an intelligent idea.
Are you keeping a list of words he regularly misuses? If so, it’s got to be getting quite long.
They've already turned the list into a book. They call it "The Dictionary".
*yawn*
Still sleeping it off, Drunky?
Hey liquorpig, if you're not here to troll, rebut his rebuttal.
Man. You really are never here. Such a truthful person.
My favorite part of that is you screaming Trump cultists at everyone but you cry daily like a bitch for correctly being told you're a Democrat while you scream about tribes.
As many people here point out, you're a raging dumb hypocrite lol.
“……I don’t spend much time here anymore….”
Lol. Wut?
He blacks out.
Alcohol related brain impairment and memory loss
This is not otherwise known as inflation. It will increase the cost of imported items, but since people won't have more money in their pocket, they will either buy less of those items or they will buy less of non-imported items, and their prices will drop. Unless you increase the money supply or velocity, you do not have inflation.
That said, i fail to see how Trump really thinks he can get away with a broad tax on goods. The increase in prices will be even worse for families that arent getting the same raises that they did when PPP and IRA were flooding the economy with inflatobucks.
Economists define inflation as prices rising across the board, regardless of the cause. Yes monetary policy is almost always the cause, but it can be caused by tariffs.
And across the board tariffs will indeed cause across the board inflation. That's because the taxes will be passed along to the consumer like all taxes are, which will raise the prices of imports and things made from imported goods. Producers of domestic goods will take advantage of this and raise prices to below that of the imported goods, but higher than they were before the tariffs. The end result will be higher prices across the board.
At least that's what has happened in the past every single time there have been protective tariffs of the nature that Trump is proposing.
sarcasmic, inflation did not rear it's ugly head in 2017-19, when Pres Trump 45 applied tariffs. You were wrong then.
Why are you right now?
If you keep energy cost low, you mitigate some inflationary impact of tariffs on other goods.
I've answered that a dozen times at least. Even once already today.
https://reason.com/2024/12/22/trade-policy-amnesia/?comments=true#comment-10843196
If you want to compare Trump's proposed tariffs to something historical, look to Smoot-Hawley or the Tariff of Abominations as a guide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%E2%80%93Hawley_Tariff_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff_of_Abominations
^ Homeless weasel
If only the New York cops had gone after him instead of peanut the squirrel.
Leftist vermin should always be exterminated.
I understood your points. But reality was different during 45's tenure.
"Economists define inflation as prices rising across the board, regardless of the cause."
The only economists worth their salt define inflation as an increase in the money supply and/or money velocity, which results in broad increases in prices. Milton Friedman is very clear on this- prices are symptom of inflation, not the inflation itself.
And Tariffs would not cause inflation. If people have to pay more for imports, they will change their spending habits- there isn't more money to pay for these imports because they aren't getting more pay (as what happens when real inflation happens). So either import prices will decline (as there is less demand, and so importers who can't lower prices will go out of business) or people will reduce consumption in other areas (like domestic goods), causing supply gluts which will decrease prices in order to clear the markets.
The economy is more or less an equation. If you aren't changing the money supply or velocity, then price increases in one place will either result in less goods being sold or prices having to decrease elsewhere. The causes and effects are substantially different from real inflation.
Due to the countering of energy policies and regulatory policy. Both of which impart a much higher cost.
Also there are supply shifts. Consumers are not subject to continuing to buy from only one supplier. Likewise he has discussed lowering tariffs if other countries do as well, which would actually lower costs of goods overall while raising domestic supply.
""What he is promising""
But you think Trump lies every time he opens his mouth.
You seem to think Trump is being honest when you want to believe him, but he lies all the other times.
No, he understands what a trade deficit is very well. The problem is that he's still thinking like a businessman that the object is to achieve positive cash flow, but now on a nationwide basis.
Or Trump is a mercantilist at heart, and intuitively needs to "win" international trade.
"Mercantilist" is just another word for what I wrote. The word came, after all, from the thinking of merchants. It's an example of the limitations of thinking you should run government like a business.
Overall, though, a businessman's perspective on government is a very good thing.
Letting our trading partners largely shut out American exports is bad policy. As are the other abuses they inflict.
Trade deficits (and other deficits) only work if your money is the reserve currency. Given that a number of nations, especially due to the actions of the current administration, seem to want to drop the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, maybe eliminating deficits of any kind isn’t necessarily a bad idea.
this is nonsense armchair quarterbacking "common wisdom". Having the world's reserve currency helps because your purchases are bouyed by the Cantillon effect of inflation. But it isn't the main reason you can run a deficit. India, UK, and Mexico all run negative trade balances despite a lack of reserve currency.
Trade Deficits are a problem if your country cannot grow its economy to outweigh outlays. If you send $1,000 out to Germany and bring in a piece of heavy machinery that helps your business increase its productivity by 10x that investment, the deficit doesn't matter. This has nothing to do with reserve currencies.
Trade deficits focus solely on cash, making us blind to the fact that in exchange for the $1,000 of cash you received a $1,000 asset. It's like trying to figure out if your car is headed in the right direction by measuring fuel consumption. It is a useful metric but not the sum total of data needed to inform you.
Trade deficits focus solely on cash, making us blind to the fact that in exchange for the $1,000 of cash you received a $1,000 asset.
Trade deficits also ignore that much of that American currency ends up coming back to America in the form of investment. Of course lots of people complain about this because nativists don't want foreigners to own stake in American companies, but from an economic point of view it doesn't matter whose money it is.
So in the end we trade money for stuff (stuff being what trade deficits ignore), and then that money we used to buy stuff with is invested in American companies. Seems like a win win to me.
How much of the remittances you advocate for with illegal employment comes back?
The issue has caused a surge in unemployment, which you seemingly applaud.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/american-labor-force-participation-has-plunged-amid-soaring-immigration-analysis-finds
You should see Germanys economy due to mass migration. It isn't booming like you keep saying.
"Help is on the way. ????"
Yes, Biden did fail to "Hang Mike Pence"! Didn't even goad people on for this, nor even try ONCE!
With Trump back in orifice, we'll get another bite at the apple, and THIS time, under Trump's LeaderShit, we WILL "Hang Mike Pence"!
Joe Biden once understood... Then he got...
amnesia.
Joe Biden once under... then he...
Joe once... he...
Joe once...
once... Jeo?
Jeo... once... stood........
Joe didn't get amnesia. He lied.
What if he forgot that he lied? Or that he pooped?
Well now be fair; rather than a lie, it might have been alzheimers... or dementia... definitely not amnesia.
Ok, he probably lied and forgot about the lie because of the dementia.
test
OK, now that works, but not a longer comment.
Can we break down what it is in DJT's thinking that convinces him judicious use of tariffs will make Americans rich?
OK, so when I cut things down to that length, they go thru.
I heard this for years from a nationalist-populist friend who was a student of history and concluded this based on the same evidence DJT gives:...
He’s an old school protectionist/mercantilist who rejects all economic thinking since the 1700s and thinks the tariffs of 1828 and 1930 were high points in the nation’s history. It’s really that simple. Not like he’s a deep thinker.
But why is that evidence compelling to many historians? And why is commenting behaving like there's a short character limit?
I don’t know and I’m not having that problem.
You just said the tariffs were to modify behaviors of other countries. Which is it?
Easy. Trump doesn't understand international trade. He thinks that a trade deficit means we're being ripped off. By implication, when there is no longer a trade deficit we're not being ripped off. Further, he seems to think that tariffs are paid by the exporting country, so that's more money flowing into America coffers.
Do other countries perform anti free market actions shrike?
He doesn't say they are to make Americans rich. He says they are done to have countries reduce the burden they place on Americans through inaction or their own tariffs.
Can you tell me how allowing our trading partners to extensively shut out American exports will make American business rich?
""will make Americans rich?""
When did he say that?
...that the American system of trade policy that strove for cash surpluses...
...coincided with a time of great US economic growth. What magic do they think tariffs hold? Seems to me they confuse individual prosperity (which usually involves getting a surplus of cash) with that of the nation; is that an easy illusion to fall for?
And then, supposing a nation under this delusion tries to implement it "judiciously", how bad can it get? Is it the sort of thing that's likely to lead to devastation, or just to arguably suboptimal growth? Presumably "judiciously" means not going crazy like North Koreans with their ideology of juche — funny, you don't look it!
For protectionist tariffs to be effective they must raise prices. So we will see inflation. When protectionist tariffs suppress competition, innovation stagnates, so quality of domestic goods will fall. And other nations will retaliate with tariffs of their own which will result in less exports. So we’ll get higher prices, lower quality stuff and less global trade. Everyone loses. Except Trump and his GOP who will score political points by blaming Democrats and the previous administration.
But above you said it was to change behaviors of other countries. Weird.
Hey bohem, you should move into bejing and start writing articles criticizing Xi for using slave labor, and using dumping policies.
I mean if you really are for a free market why don't you go where it would help the most?
'Biden's résumé seemed to confirm he had a firm grasp of trade policy.'
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
"Best union president ever"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Oh, do bribes count as good trade policy?
10% for the Big Guy trade policy.
Tariffs are neither good nor bad. They are a tool. Kinda like the author.
Not exactly. Tariffs are sometimes a useful tool. Boehm has never been useful.
Like all taxes, tariffs are trade-offs.
Their trade-off is short term (anything less than a decade) profits for long or very long term (greater than 50 years) stability.
I think part of the problem is that tariffs like all taxes are hard to get rid of once implemented. There is a loss of revenue coupled with a public misunderstanding of the advantages of free trade. The real loss was the failure to support the TTP which could have done a lot to slow China. Hillery Clinton was the first to turn her back on the TPP and she got little in return.
The real loss was the failure to support the TTP which could have done a lot to slow China.
Fatass Donnie just wants his name to be on any trade agreement.
Congress should rename the TPP to Trade Agreement to Reflect the Glory of Dear Leader Trump and it would be passed and signed in days.
The TPP was a ridiculous farce that would have allowed corporatists to IP everything forever.
It was one of the most anti-libertarian trade agreements ever conceived.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
How are they hard to get rid of? Just implement a new trade agreement. You know those "free market" things people applauding that are sets if tariffs, export caps, import caps, etc.
They get modified all the time.
Even in his first term Trump implemented a china tariff so they would crack down on theft, China did, tariffs were removed. So difficult.
I think it is more of you, shrike, sarc and others being completely ignorant more than anything.
You need to check your history. Trump put a tariff on Chinese steel and the Chinese retaliated with a tariff on soybeans. American consumers paid more for steel plus had to make welfare payments to the soybean farmers to help them. Trump was forced to renegotiated a new deal with China during the rise of the pandemic and so was easy on China when he needed to be asking questions about Covid19.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736
That's not what Trump said. Who you going to trust, Trump or leftist media?
Of course m4e posting a red herring not related to what I posted convinced sarc. Lol.
This is why I call you fucking ignorant. I've given you the links multiple times.
He doesn’t understand any of that
Different situation dumdum.
Why are you guys so dishonest? Is it worth being a lying shitstain to trick sarc? Lol.
The TPP was a boondoggle of managed trade set up and run by globalist fuck sticks.
Wonder if Boehm will ever give Domestic Tax a thought?
You know what is far, far, far worse than Tariffs?
- Domestic Spending completely out of control.
- That made an out of control National Debt.
- Even with a Domestic Tax rate hitting 80%+.
Unless those three are of the discussion and having a higher priority by far then pissing on the floor about Tariffs amounts to pissing on the floor over spilled milk. You're just banging your head against the wall.
Trump picked my pockets last night pre-flight
Zero hour 9:00 a.m.
And I’m gonna be broke
As a bum by then
I miss liberty so much I miss my life
It’s lonely without Nancy Mace
On such a worthless flight
And I think it’s gonna be a long, long time
‘Til Tariff Man brings me ’round again to find
I’m not the rich man they think I am at home
Oh, no, no, no
I’m not a MAGA man!
Tariff Man, burning up my cash up here alone
Care to explain how you got your original account banned here, Bushpig?
For you Denny Hastert conservatives:
He's a real MAGA man
Sitting in his Red State land
Making all his sick pedo plans
Doesn't want a MILF to screw
Knows the playground he's going to
Isn't he a lot like Don and Jeff?
MAGA man please listen
You dream of children who glisten
MAGA man, the police are at your door
He's as sick as he can be
Just sees kids he wants to see
MAGA man, can you see me at all
MAGA man don't worry
Take your time, don't hurry
Leave that door'til somebody else
Arrests you for your crimes
Ah, la, la, la, la
Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not the jail he's going to
Isn't he a bit like Gaetz and Roy?
No, that's not why your original account banned here, you Denny Hastert neocon Bushpig.
You were permabanned because you posted links to actual child pornography here in the comments.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Lol. Great. If there’s one thing this place needed it’s another SQRLSY.
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
I need to change that up a bit. More creativity and variety ends up being more hurtful to them.
And you should aspire to be hurtful to them
Nope. It’s all tariffs, all the time. He’s a one note moron. Kind of like ENB and whores.
What's up, Peanuts, Trump Cultists, and the occasional libertarian?
Texas Rep. Kay Granger, 81, found in memory care unit after she vanished from Washington 6 months ago: report
By Isabel Keane
Published Dec. 22, 2024, 9:00 a.m. ET NY Post
Seriously, who has been voting for this brain-dead woman?
And haven't we learned our lesson on senility? Biden, McConnell, Grassley, Fatass Donnie? All too old.
Weird attack given your 4 years of Biden denials. That WSJ report must have made you angry.
Woman should be removed from office. Wonder why it is so hard for you yo say that about democrats.
Because Shrike is Bushpig Democrat.
He rapes children too.
What are you going to do about it?
Shrike really should worry about what Trump’s FBI will do about it.
Buttplug: "No, the Democrats and GOPe hiding the President's senility isn't the problem, look over there! It's a Republican who had a stroke last year! See, we're not so bad. Biden isn't the only one who had a brain injury."
She didn't get appointed by the party after her stroke, shill.
Also, notice Buttplug didn't include a link because he wanted to hide the fact that Granger did not run for reelection in November. And Republican Congressman-elect Craig Goldman, who won her seat in November, doesn't want to force a resignation.
You mean the one that had her stroke after she one re election and then didn’t attempt to run again? The one that is out in a couple weeks anyway?
Yeah, that’s the same. Seriously, fuck off Kiddie Raper.
Democrats did it first, that makes it ok.
Canned comment #2. Again.
And as usual, completely innacurate lol.
He posted that after not one but 2 people corrected shrike.
To sarc all that matters is narratives.
And it's dishonest. A woman who had a recent stroke and a man who was obviously senile before he was even installed on the throne are not the same thing.
But Sarckles doesn't care because he has trolls to make.
turd, the TDS-addled shit-stain of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
EB;dr
Same.
Funny how often a candidate that runs on 'I am not like my predecessor' turns out to be the same as their predecessor, eh Reason?
Y'all reluctantly but strategically voted for Biden and he turned out like Trump. Y'all did the same for Obama and he turned out like Bush.
Maybe stop doing the same things over and over?
"It remains true that any freshman econ student could tell Biden who would pay the cost of those tariffs. "
It seems only right that Americas should pay the costs. Both Biden and Trump see America and China as locked in a battle for world dominance. Short of war, tariffs are probably the most convenient weapon at hand to weaken China. When Americans vote for politicians bent on conflict with China, it's only just, fair and correct that they bear the cost. Any freshman political science student would agree.
China is trying to dominate the world. Are you so dumb you can’t see that? Their government is open about it.
China is bent on conflict with us. Case closed.
"China is bent on conflict with us. "
That explains the Chinese military bases in across the border from El Paso, or the Chinese troops in Syria.
"China is bent on conflict with us. "
Trump and Biden are bent on conflict with China. You voted for these assholes, you pay the price.
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
"Spouting nonsense is an end in itself."
You’re very stupid Cunt, aren’t you? The Chinese position themselves as our adversaries. And it’s in all their party rhetoric. Get a fucking education.
"The Chinese position themselves as our adversaries. "
Those bases just over the border from El Paso is a dead give away.
Are you really this stupid and obtuse?
It may be counterintuitive, but I think it's true that countries who do not seek world dominance but who seek, rather, profitable trade to the benefit of everyone in the world end up dominating the world over the long run. Of course, like everything else in human history, it's not perfect. America was seeking profitable trade with Russia for over two decades to the benefit of both Americans and Russians before Putin decided he would rather be an Emperor. On the other hand, America was not JUST trading with Russia - America was also imposing the narrative of "making the world safe for democracy" at the same time, which turns out to be counterproductive.
It may be counterintuitive, but I think it's true that countries who do not seek world dominance but who seek, rather, profitable trade to the benefit of everyone in the world end up dominating the world over the long run.
Free trade, even unilateral free trade, makes the people of that country richer. So when a country like the United States keeps tariffs relatively low for decades, even when other countries do not, then the people of that country get richer. That leads to world dominance. Imposing tariffs for tariff's sake will reverse that trend.
It doesn't matter how much evidence you're given, your bumper sticker is all you need. Lol.
I know you're a covid authoritarianism denialist, but we saw the effects of your bullshit unilateral trade just 5 years ago and its effects.
"I think it's true that countries who do not seek world dominance but who seek, rather, profitable trade to the benefit of everyone in the world end up dominating the world over the long run."
I don't see that's the case. The US wants to punish through economic sanctions countries like Russia and Iran, and punish any other countries that do business with them. Before Putin came to power, Russia experienced a catastrophe where up to 3 million Russians died prematurely plus the expansion of NATO up to Russia's borders. World domination isn't an accidental consequence of free trade but comes from constant wars, the hundreds of military bases around the world and a military budget that is larger than all other nations combined. The tariffs on China are not meant to further free trade, or enrich Americans or Chinese, but to weaken the Chinese economy.
Why do you sound just like 2015 Obama/Hillary?
not a surprise. Mr. Biden does not now have, and has never had, any principles. he's been a weathervane since his first foray into politics, leaning whatever way he thinks the wind is blowing. look at pretty much any issue that has shifted in public opinion in the last 50 years, & you'll see his "evolution" exactly tracking opinion polls. tariffs are just the latest issue. unfortunately, the public consensus of supporting them is just flatly wrong. look at the history of these measures, and they are irretrievably counterproductive.
"At best, Biden's trade policy exhibits confusion and incoherence. At worst, he appears to be endorsing policies that he once knew would not be in America's interest."
I don't think that endorsing policies that a politician knows would be bad is the worst of the possibilities here. What is much more likely and much worse in this is that most politicians endorse policies they know are bad for political advantage all the time. It does not necessarily have to be confusion, incoherence or a change of opinion.
"most politicians endorse policies they know are bad for political advantage all the time"
I wouldn't put it that way. Rather, politicians are willing to sacrifice the interests of the American people to pursue the interests of the American empire. If Americans can be convinced their sacrifices are necessary to protect Taiwan, or the Uygurs, or prevent Chinese surveillance, or counter industrial espionage, so much the better.
Marionettes don't have trade policies.
Did Boehm look at his record before the Oval Office? Because what he said on the campaign trail had fuck all to do with reality. When he said anything at all.
Facts changed. Who could have known! Everyone pointing it out in the comments are conspiracy theorists.
At best, Biden's trade policy exhibits confusion and incoherence.
As does literally every word that comes out of his mouth.
It's not that simple. Americans paying higher prices is one outcome, but not the only outcome. Here are 4 possible outcomes of tariffs on China, any one of these could happen, or a combination of all four:
1. Americans pay higher prices for the goods
2. Americans simply switch to buying a domestically made product instead of the Chinese made one.
3. The Chinese company reduces its price to the wholesaler, and eats the cost to keep their consumer prices competitive with domestic market competition.
4. The Chinese government sees that tariffs are hurting their business, so they offer to drop their tariffs if we drop ours
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/steve-madden-says-it-will-cut-production-in-china-to-avoid-trump-tariffs/ar-AA1tLhSE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=d266f697b36e4bd28a74445ce81b8c8e&ei=35
""The Biden Administration has launched a probe into "unfair trade practices" by China in the semiconductor supply chain, paving the way for a new round of tariffs once President-elect Donald Trump takes office.""
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/joe-biden-launches-major-trade-investigation-into-china/ar-AA1wnrx1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=e415f6cd3fa14f7e8524799c8be1dbe9&ei=51
""On Monday, the White House announced that the office of Office of the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) will be undertaking a Section 301 investigation, relating to violations of the 1974 Trade Act and discriminatory foreign government practices that "burden U.S. commerce." The investigation will examine China's manufacturing and increasing dominance of the market for foundational, or "legacy" semiconductors, which possess widespread applications in the production of most home appliances, consumer electronics and automobiles.""