The National Debt Just Hit $36 Trillion. Does Trump Have a Plan To Control It?
It would take nearly $8 trillion in budget cuts merely to stabilize the national debt so it does not grow faster than the economy.

In last week's elections, Americans rejected the status quo in the federal government and asked Republicans to once again take the reins.
On Friday, the Treasury Department issued another reminder about the cost of doing nothing to change course. The national debt hit $36 trillion—less than four months after surpassing the $35 trillion mark.
Evenly divided, that means every American is now six figures in the red, thanks to the decisions made in Washington, D.C., over the past few decades. The trajectory ahead looks no better. The federal government is on pace to run multitrillion-dollar deficits for the foreseeable future—and that's the rosy scenario, which assumes no recessions, wars, pandemics, and the like. Measured against the size of the U.S. economy, the debt is approaching the record high set in the final year of World War II. The rising debt means higher annual interest payments that will complicate the federal budget, likely require higher taxes, and make everyone poorer.
There is plenty of blame for this mess. Yes, former President Donald Trump added $8 trillion to the debt during his four years in office. Yes, President Joe Biden has done nearly as much damage—despite a bunch of disingenuous and memory-holed talk about curbing deficits during his first two years.
What's more important is what will happen next. The American people made a clear choice in the election. Trump and his fellow Republicans will have full control of the federal budget for at least the next two years. Can they break the recent trends and, at minimum, slow the growth of the national debt?
Skepticism is warranted. In recent history, divided government has been the only hope for spending restraint. Meanwhile, the promises Trump made on the campaign trail will translate into higher spending, larger deficits, and more debt, according to assessments by independent groups such as the Penn Wharton Budget Model. Trump dodged questions about the debt while campaigning and does not have a plan to cut spending, even though he's promised lots of tax cuts (a recipe for higher deficits and more borrowing).
If Trump's second term is to be less fiscally reckless than his first, he may have to abandon some of his most ambitious plans, like a mass deportation proposal that has "no price tag," in Trump's estimation.
Still, Trump is saying a few of the right things—and one of his first actions as president-elect was to task Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy with promoting government efficiency, which may or may not translate into spending cuts.
At least some Republicans in Congress also see the need for fiscal restraint.
"It's time for significant changes to our spending habits, and that won't be accomplished with another reckless and lazy [continuing resolution]," Rep. Andy Biggs (R–Ariz.) posted on X soon after the news about the national debt hitting $36 trillion broke. Biggs, like some of his allies in the House GOP, has been pushing for Congress to actually complete a full budget, something that legislators have not done since 1996.
Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.), who has pushed for spending cuts without much success in recent years, wrote in a letter to his Senate colleagues on Thursday that he is "gravely concerned about the fiscal health of our nation and the growing federal debt."
The goal for the next two years should be merely stabilizing the growth of the debt. That alone will require a massive effort. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that it would take nearly $8 trillion of budget cuts (spread across the 10-year budget window used by the Congressional Budget Office and other official estimates) to keep the debt from growing faster than the economy over the long term.
That is the task that voters have set before Republicans, who have full control of the agenda for at least the next two years. Really, the ultimate responsibility lies with Trump, given that so much of the GOP is now beholden to his whims. Crossing the $36 trillion threshold so close to Trump's decisive win in the election provides a convenient baseline for measuring his second term in office. Four years from now, how high will that number be?
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Ha! Does Donnie have a plan to control the debt?
Get real.
Do you have a plan to control your pedophilic urges?
At one point you thought it acceptable to post a link to cp content here.
It’s called DOGE, Pedo, and you’re going to be crying about it for the next two years.
For four years 2017-21 Donnie didn’t give a fat fuck about the debt. And he didn’t have a plan this year.
Now he throws it onto the Ass-burgers guy in a bullshit fake czar role?
You are certainly a gullible little cultist.
At what point has any Democrat, executive branch, or congressional, given a fuck about the budget? And if you were Trump, what would YOU do?
Obama famously said he would cut the $1.2 trillion deficit he inherited from the Bushpigs in half.
Then he did it.
Then Donnie blew it up to $3 trillion/year.
Now run along peanut.
Obama signed FY09.
Obamas submitted budgets were 2x house budgets.
When the GOP sought more cuts Obama shut down public open air parks.
Obama passed ACA with a design for 6 years of revenue generation before the costs hit after his term.
The gop reigned in obamas desired spending. Not Obama. Obama gamed ACA to generate more revenues. Obama counted repayments to TARP to his tax revenue further reducing deficits.
If you correctly move the TARP repayments to the same years as the loans, Obama grew deficits.
You've been told and given links to all this. But you continue to overtly lie.
Fantastic. In two more months Donald will be back in office and Buttplug can start worrying about the debt again.
Even better than that, you won't have to worry about peddling fake jobs and economics numbers anymore and can go back to criticizing the real thing.
The tears are a minor comfort.
Red hot economy!!!!
Yeah, Biden's plan to control the debt worked out real well, didn't it?
The current potus, the same one that some Reason editors reluctantly and strategically voted for, does not.
Hopefully congress gets on board and starts sunsetting entitlements and alphabet agencies. Will see if they really are beholden yo their whims or the graft that comes along with approving more spending and benefits.
Hopefully we'll get some people with gravitas running the 3 letters, that'll turn things around for sure.
The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that it would take nearly $8 trillion of budget cuts (spread across the 10-year budget window used by the Congressional Budget Office and other official estimates) to keep the debt from growing faster than the economy over the long term.
Easy.
Use the 2019 Federal budget for the next four years. Done. Though I am sure there's fat to be cut from even that, as well.
Only Republicans are accountable for anything. Nowhere in this is it acknowledged that the Democrats will fight tooth and nail as a united block to massively increase spending. At least some Republicans are trying to fix the problems and yet they're the ones attacked in the pages of Reason.
With majorities in both houses the Republicans can't avoid blame entirely in the next 4 years.
True, but again will we assign any agency or responsibility to the Democrats? These articles only come out when Republicans have any power. There is never any attempt to hold the other side accountable.
Less Lester, not mo Lester.
When do the Democrats make any serious talk about balancing the budget or reducing the federal debt? Maybe when they do and have all the levers of power, a similar article would be warranted.
Oh, so as long as you're irresponsible that is a green light to continue being irresponsible and should be actively encouraged. Make it make sense.
A lot of spending growth is interest on the debt. Dems and shrike will surely blame the GOP for that growth.
Nobody is saying they should….
And yet the deficit balanced by the end of Clinton's admin, and was falling under Obama and then Trump took over.
There is no evidence that the actual GOP, not the cosplay GOP you seem to be talking about, have any interest in lowering the deficit or fighting the debt. That's what the analysis shows.
Indeed, there's a consistent pattern.
Article shows, with evidence, that the GOP are irresponsible about spending when in power.
Commenter states, with no evidence, that (at least some of) the GOP are responsible.
For the umpteenth time: to the extent that the budget was balanced under Clinton, it only happened because of the Republican controlled House. You know, the people actually responsible for spending.
And what’s this? It was the Republican controlled House under Obama that instituted the sequester? Much to the howling of the Democrats, I might add.
Remind me, when was the last time a Democrat controlled Congress even tried to reduce spending?
Biden's deficit hits $36 trillion, does Biden have a plan to reverse it before the new guy takes over?
Bowf sidez!
Nice!
Biden’s not here man
Wherever Biden is, is he still wearing his MAGA hat?
He might be, I think he’s quite pleased that Kamala lost after she stabbed him in the back. Now he can rub Pelosi and Obama’s noses in her defeat.
He's working on nuclear energy right now. He'll fix the debt next.
It's nice to see Reason caring about fiscal responsibility again.
Abolish the Debt
Just mint some of those trillion dollar coins!
Stupid idea. Instead we should take out a $36 trillion life insurance policy on Biden...well better make 37, we'll probably need to make at least 1 monthly payment.
Lloyds of London might offer that but for $38T.
Excess profit!
Given how things are going, a similar policy for Trump might be in order. There've already been two attempts on his life and that was before he 'stole' his second election.
What's important is the House writes all the spending bills, and while the GOP will control the House, the GOP is at least 70% RINO and they are addicted to spending, along with the RINOs in the Senate and all the Democrats. I think of them as leeches on the body politic.
Trump can't stop the spending/bleeding/blood sucking, but he's already done more than any president I can remember by appointing Musk and Ramaswamy to cut spending. That will put pressure on Congress.
Answer-
Gramm-Rodman
Simpson-Bowles
Musk-Rat
Question-
Name three debt cutting committees that did nothing in the end.
Because Simpson-Bowles was not authorized by Congress, it wasn’t possible to include, within its mandate, fast-track protections for consideration of its recommendations. The commission’s power lay entirely in its potential to generate political momentum.
What ultimately sank Simpson-Bowles was not fights over appropriated accounts, but the deep divide between the parties over appropriate tax and entitlement policies.
By and large, most Democrats were committed then, as they are today, to securing large tax hikes on upper-income households. In their view, the growing disparity in incomes that has occurred in recent decades is a problem in and of itself, and the solution to both the fiscal problem and the economic problem is to protect programs while taxing the rich.
https://www.aei.org/economics/a-look-back-at-simpson-bowles/
Want me to go through the rest?
Now. When did we get deficit cutting? GOP led Congress under Clinton. Compact for America.
Yes, the democrats solution to everything is more democratiauthoritarianism, more taxes, and to reduce the prosperity of the wealthy and affluent.
The last four years have really showcased the fruits of such plans.
Cut Taxes. Borrow and Spend. That's the GOP plan. Designed to blow up the debt. They want the stock market hot to make money for their donors. Short term thinkers.
"Short term thinkers."
...just like the democrats have been for the past quarter of a century.
WE NEED MORE 5 YEAR PLANS!
Can you point me to the time where raising taxes led to less spending?
That’s the great part: it doesn’t!
The omnibus bills need to go.
Yep. We need a Constitutional amendment stating the Congress must pass a yearly budget on time. If they don't, then the Congress is disbanded and we hold new elections.
Now we're talking!
Absolutely!
The spending has to stop, and pissing away the taxpayers' money on grants, foreign aid, student loans, and subsidies would be a good start.
But that's up to Congress since they are the authority over the purse strings.
It will be interesting to see how sincere the GOP controlled Congress and Senate are about reducing the debt and the runaway spending that has been going on for about a quarter of a century.
lol congress. They totally know how to get things done.
They’ve been doing great so far!
Cut Taxes. Borrow and Spend. That’s the GOP plan. Designed to blow up the debt. They want the stock market hot to make money for their donors. Short term thinkers.
Sounds exactly like the last four years.
Made Zelensky a billionaire off the backs of American taxpayers.
Blame Democrats.
Ideas™ !
Yes. They spent the last four years wrecking the country.
"That is the task that voters have set before Republicans, who have full control of the agenda for at least the next two years. Really, the ultimate responsibility lies with Trump"
You're projecting what YOU think the voters SHOULD have set for Republicans onto the voters, not what voters ACTUALLY set for them. If you think the voters elected Trump to do whatever it takes to cut the deficit, you're delusional! "Does Trump Have a Plan to Control It?" Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa .... *choke*
Same intelligence as sarc, just with more words!
Eliminate:
Department of Education
All DEI across all departments & the military
Department of transportation
Department of energy
EPA
SBA
HUD
Disarm all agencies other than the secret service and the marshals service; sell the guns and ammo via the CMP
Am I at $8T yet?
Department of energy
Not arguing, but curious. Do you plan to move the "nuclear deterrence" mission to under DoD, or get rid of the nuclear weapons program entirely? Since the NNSA also deals with nuclear power plant safety, I'm not sure putting them under DoD makes sense. But I'll certainly agree that the DoE has room for a lot of cuts.
Move nuclear oversight to DoD.
It's not so much "oversight" as R&D, and DoD has *not* had a stellar track record on saving money in that particular realm. That said, it might still be worth it in the end, if it makes killing an entire agency easier. And DoD probably wouldn't waste money on a lot of the BS that happens at the supposed nuclear weapons lab in town.
Well, the US Navy has an excellent record of using nuclear power and handling nuclear weapons, so yeah, DoD would work.
Nowhere near it yet.
You're right. Entitlements constitute 85% of all federal dollars spent. Until you attack that abomination, you're just flapping your lips.
Not even close, sadly.
Sure, both sides!
Except under Trump the deficit rose slower (do NOT rant about ridiculous federal pandemic spending here), AND we got to keep more of our own money.
Under Biden, the deficit rose faster, as did taxes, and we had to send Uncle Sam more of our money.
I know which option I prefer.
Imagine what we could do Trump was really willing to put the democrats in prison.
Reluctantly, but strategically.
"under Trump the deficit rose slower "
What was it doing in the two or three years before Trump?
The runaway debt is not going to be fixed. We are rushing towards the edge of the cliff and it's too late to hit the brakes. Now is the time to either prepare for surviving a Mad Max scenario or make your suicide plan. At my age, I will be checking out as soon as the food riots start.
It doesn’t have to be like that. We just have to be willing to get rid of the democrats for good. Better them than us.
We just have to be willing to get rid of the democrats for good.
In other words, a Mad Max scenario.
Now is the time to either prepare for surviving a Mad Max scenario or make your suicide plan.
I've got both! 😀
The National Debt Just Hit $36 Trillion. Does Trump Have a Plan To Control It?
The reason we have such a big debt is because communists implemented a metric base10 counting system. A base25 counting system is much more in line with what the founders advocated.
Just track down all the thieves who have been blowing up the government since LBJ and take it all back. Easy Peasy!
*Does Trump Have a Plan To Control It?*
Do you, Eric? Every time there's an opportunity for an area where spending can be decreased, it's all so terrible and draconian. Biden admin pimps out a 7.2 TRILLION DOLLAR budget proposal, and you're all silent.
Meanwhile, mainstream media economic retards suggest that cutting even $2 trillion (annually) in federal spending would torpedo the economy, and you're also, mysteriously, silent.
Biden admin says they are doing their level best to pump as much available dollars into potential forever wars before the transition can happen. Silence again. Huh.
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1857089671391576481
Maybe we could start there.
Just get rid of the democrats. Then the RINOs if they don’t fall in line. Then fix things.
The juxtaposition of 'Trump' and 'plan' in a single sentence is bizarre.
Yeah, I’m sure it’s quite confusing for idiot democrats.
I know, right? Trump’s plan to defeat Kamala in the election fizzled horribly.
Welcome to Venezuela!!!!
We imported the Socialist Utopian minds and now we’re paying the socialist price.
It wasn’t (D)ifferent this time either. Even in the USA.
There is NO WEALTH in a nation founded on ‘armed-theft’ even when end-sum ‘equality’ is being touted because ‘Guns’ don’t make sh*t. It’s a zero-sum-resources political game/ideology and flat-out criminal.
he may have to abandon some of his most ambitious plans, like a mass deportation proposal that has "no price tag," in Trump's estimation.
Not on the table. Even the most fiscal of fiscal conservatives will readily admit that's one goal where cost can be of no concern. Whatever it takes to get it done. Conservatism will advocate re-allocation of existing spending, and hopefully redirect all the waste (everything from climate change to medicare) to the goal - but even if we have to borrow on top of that to get every one of these criminal aliens kicked out and barred from returning - that's worth any cost.
And look, this isn't hard to do even without touching the unholy trinity (welfare, medicare, SS) or the only one that justifies itself (defense/VA - though we can snip away at some of it, especially anything that isn't specifically about building/caring for soldiers, weapons, vehicles, and barracks that don't serve (or served) the primary purpose of killing anybody who even looks at America in a way we don't like with extreme prejudice).
- Hard moratorium on any and all government research grants - both existing and proposed. If the private sector won't invest in it, it gets mothballed for four years (maybe more).
- Hard moratorium on student loan subsidies, grants, and low-income education spending. Every single dollar of that is 100% wasted. Same goes with public university endowments.
- UN gets zero American dollars for the next four years. Foreign Aid only for natural disaster relief to our allies, and only upon request with an explanation of why they can't handle it on their own.
- Public health facilities now bid for public funding contracts, by publishing annual lock-in rates for every level of care (from cardiac bypass procedures to a single dose of acetaminophen) to be submitted with their bids. Elective public health facilities get zero dollars period.
- Non-border related federal law enforcement - with the exception of the US Marshall - gets a severance check and we shutter their buildings. The existing federal court dockets use this time to clear their backlogs. The Marshalls build joint task forces with the States to deal with federal crime.
- All cultural/arts spending stops completely. Not one single dollar for Transgender Awareness Day or Indigenous People's Day or any museum or gallery or performance hall. They can seek private donorship. Same goes for community development and public housing (but we can leave the national parks alone I guess).
- Infrastructure, transportation, and industry, we can cherrypick those a little closer. Spending only on anything that indicates an obvious ROI. Sorry Wind/Solar and high-speed rails - but we can help rebuild the Francis Scott Key bridge because, y'know, that serves an actual purpose.
I mean, that's just off the top of my head. Leftists like to screech about the hypocrisy of Republican/Trump spending - but that's only because they're completely unwilling to consider re-allocation. Yes, purging America of its criminal alien population will be expensive. But it doesn't mean we have to add to existing spending. It's like the left (and apparently libertarians) don't want to accept that existing expenditures can and should be taken off the table. We can just stop wasting existing spending on stupid things - like everything I suggested.
It's no different than a first-time homebuyer. It's a big expense. Great investment, but there's some up-front costs. And one may have to tighten their belt elsewhere, and forego a few things in the meantime in order to cover that. Same principle.
So, enough with these bogus articles that take as a premise the idea that we can have our cake and eat it too.
The US Secret Service is a federal law enforcement agency tasked with investigating counterfeiting crimes and the like. And if national parks are sticking around, would the Parks service still keep their own LEOs?
I'd also cut out all corporate and agricultural subsidies. Green energy, semiconductors, big oil, ethanol, and even nuclear. Counter by cutting regulations so it's easier and cheaper for the private sector to make more of those things.
And then you still have to take a chainsaw to entitlements. I like that Javier Milei has Trump's ear.
Didn't read the article. Won't read the article. Boehm is a fucking joke who has voted for more consecutive Democratic "nominees" for president than the vast majority of the population has. He's among the 20%-30% of the most committed leftists in the country. Anything this lying shitstain says about fiscal policy or freedom is misinformation/disinformation/retardism.
Did the deficit rise or fall under Trump?
Did it rise or fall under Biden? Under Obama? Under Bush 1 or 2? Are you a child? It only fell under Clinton because of the GOP revolution 2 years in. And that was unquestionably the last and only functional few years of government in my lifetime.
Now, did Trump cut taxes or raise them? How about Biden and Obama? If I have to choose between a tax cutter who doesn't cut spending to offset it and a tax increaser who still spends way beyond the taxes they raise, I know which I choose. And if the dude-bro Doge boys do anything they are claiming they'll do to dismantle the governmental largess, it will be the best thing to happen in Washington in decades.
Until the Republicans have a supermajority in the Senate, there's no chance, and even then,,,
What was Harris' plan?
What was Biden's plan?
What was Clinton's plan?
IN schools now you either get no Economics or you get MMT. If people only knew how hateful most upper-echelon education unions are
U.S. national debt surpasses $100K per person
By Casey Harper | The Center Square Dec 4, 2023
If Milei can, so can Trump. I believe they will.
Sadly, almost no one in this country really cares about the deficit or the national debt, which is really bad. They basically never ever got mentioned during the entire campaign, and nobody voted for Trump in the belief that he's some serious deficit hawk.
People will only start really caring when the automatic Social Security cuts start kicking in in about ten years or so.
We don't have ten years. One way or the other, we will effectively default on the debt. When that happens, the economy will collapse either from hyperinflation or a catastrophic deflationary depression.
And naturally Reason will say that republicans are 100% to blame for it (it's practically their entire schtick under the fake libertarian regime).
No one has a plan to control the debt. Drastic budget cuts or crushing tax hikes are both political doom. But the budget can be balanced without massive spending cuts, just stop spending more every year, and allow tax revenues to catch up over time as the economy grows. It would have taken only 5 or 6 years, 5 or 6 years ago. Maybe longer now, but balancing the budget in 8 years is far better than continuing to increase the debt by a trillion dollars or more every year.
Trump control he deficit? No! He helped create it.
Divisiveness; Debt; Defeats; and Self-degradation
-From the unique novel, Retribution Fever:
These United States have become a nation afflicted by crippling political divisiveness; deepening economic debt; serial military defeats; and abominable, depraved self-degradation — all of which seem destined to end in desperate despair.
As one survivor of the plague attracted by the allure of alliteration, an allure once prized in Old English, commented, “We allowed our immediate predecessors to drive us into a decline described by debt, decay, defeat, degradation, deprivation, desperation, and ultimately despair. They possessed a peculiar proclivity to place opinion before fact, ideology before knowledge, emotion before reason, and politics before Science.”
The annual deficits for the government were offset by increasing debt frequently “off-budget”; a gambit that, in the private sector, would land the perpetrator in prison. Some experts estimated the total debt as the unimaginable amount of four-hundred trillion — trillion! — dollars; minimally, one-hundred trillion.
American currency had come to represent nothing more than a promise on a promise — a promise to confer value by promising to tax the creative and productive for the benefit of the destructive and unproductive re-labelled “the vulnerable” — “the vulnerable” who, with their “humanitarian” sympathizers, voted themselves the fruits of other people’s labors. “Entitlements” involuntarily extorted by government were to replace charity voluntarily donated by individuals. Big Government, thereby, freed itself to print as much paper-based currency as politicians demanded to support chronic, deficit-ridden spending financed by chronic, unlimited expansion of debt.
Under the new President, military services starved while “human services” gorged. The feasting came courtesy of money borrowed from abroad. The light of true prosperity fueled by the inherited wealth of the dearly departed — wealth squandered by The Left — had burnt brightly, flickered, then died. Facing economic gloom, the politicians lit another lamp the lamp of phony prosperity fueled by debt. Meanwhile, the darkness of doom waited its turn silently in a future not far away.
One consequence of the aforementioned migration had been an increasing tyranny by warring groups of minorities who had lit the nation on fire. Each wanted more for itself at the expense of others — more of the decreasing growth in American wealth, especially among the declining middle-class. The politicians and bureaucrats fostered this avarice via promoting dependence upon government, funding redistribution of wealth through debt and taxes including the hidden tax of inflation that amounts to legalized theft.
They had issued increasing amounts of fiat currency, so that the government could buy its own debt — the financial equivalent of sending love-letters to oneself. In doing so, the wicked sacrificed the virtuous. In gaining and maintaining power, politicians and bureaucrats wreaked economic ruin while robbing the prudent among the middle-class of its wealth — citizens who saved not spent; citizens who were creditors not debtors; citizens who were makers not takers. With the proceeds, these vile vermin bought the votes of the greedy, the irresponsible, and the crooked — all of whom claimed to be innocent, vulnerable victims while waving the banner of “humanitarianism and social justice”.
We have defined the problem as follows: An excess of governmental spending incurring debt fueled by excessively taxing the creative and productive and by outright robbing the savers.
We have targeted an appropriate, achievable goal as follows: To have a sound economy with a sound, stable currency.
We have designed a plan as follows:
1) To abolish the Sixteenth Amendment; thereby, terminating the federal income-tax and replacing it with a basic, flat, national sales-tax of 10% — 15% including universal medical coverage through the private sector.
2) To stabilize the currency based upon production not consumption.
3) To issue a new dollar with value equal to that of 1913 when the Federal Reserve Board came into existence.
4) To withdraw the power to steal by way of the balloting box; whereby, recipients of governmental welfare had determined the largesse that they themselves received.
5) To limit coinage and printing of new monies. Of note, recently, the introduction of a voluntary, private, alternate system of virtual monetary exchange paradoxically created a new path for complete economic tyranny via an involuntary system of governmental, virtual, monetary exchange identifying the holder of each unit via his Social Security Number or other number and every exchange transacted.
6) To set interest-rates by investors in a free and open market rather than by governmental bureaucrats closeted in a closed room.
7) To prohibit federal debt except during declared wartime.
We have provided a system of measurement. Track the Gross Domestic Product with no items “off-budget”.
Experience had demonstrated that debt for creation and production can be ultimately good; debt for consumption, ultimately bad.
These United States shall not be liable for the debts of any State, Territory, or locality, nor shall these United States relieve those debts in any way, whatsoever. In cases of natural or manmade disasters other than consequences of acts of war by a foreign power, the federal government shall not attempt to make whole nor to restore partially areas so affected other than for purposes of interstate transportation and shall not offer insurance in any form, whatsoever, against such disasters.