Drug Deaths Are Finally Declining. Nobody Really Knows Why.
One thing seems clear: Drug warriors do not deserve credit for the turnaround, although they deserve blame for the previous explosion in fatal overdoses.

Drug-related deaths in the United States—which have risen nearly every year for the last two decades, often by double-digit percentages—are expected to fall substantially this year. According to preliminary data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the death toll for the 12-month period ending in April 2024 was 101,168, compared to 112,470 for the 12-month period ending in April 2023. That 10 percent drop, assuming it holds up, is striking when compared to the previous trend.
Since the CDC is still reporting more than 100,000 drug-related deaths a year, compared to 20,000 or so at the turn of the century, it would be premature to celebrate. The current numbers, in fact, are still substantially higher than the death toll recorded in 2020, when drug-related fatalities surged by a record 30 percent. Still, a double-digit annual decrease would be unprecedented and may signal the beginning of a long-awaited reversal in ever-escalating drug fatalities, especially in light of the more modest 3 percent drop between 2022 and 2023.
There are several possible explanations for this development, some more plausible than others. But the bottom line is that no one really knows why this is happening now, although it is clear that we cannot credit the efforts of politicians who have been risibly promising to "stop the flow of illicit drugs" for more than a century.
Nabarun Dasgupta and two other drug researchers at the University of North Carolina found that the downward national trend indicated by the CDC's provisional counts was consistent with state-level mortality data and with overdose cases reported by hospitals and emergency responders. They estimate that nonfatal overdoses are down by 15 percent to 20 percent nationwide, and they note that several states have reported big declines in drug-related deaths, emergency calls, and hospital visits.
"A 15-20% decrease in non-fatal overdose and a 10% decrease in fatal overdose is a major impact," Dasgupta and his colleagues write. "There is barely any public health intervention that has credibly achieved this magnitude of decrease. Our conclusion is that the dip in overdoses is real, and not a data artifact. It remains to be seen how long it will be sustained. If it is sustained, whatever caused it would be one of the strongest 'interventions' ever witnessed in this domain of public health. Therefore, we need to next consider the possible causes."
Dasgupta et al. say it is "unlikely" that anti-drug operations along the U.S.-Mexico border have played a significant role in reducing fatal or nonfatal overdoses. They note that recent border seizures have mainly involved marijuana and methamphetamine rather than illicit fentanyl, which is implicated in around 90 percent of opioid-related deaths and more than two-thirds of all drug-related deaths.
Instead of reducing those deaths, methamphetamine seizures may have had the opposite effect. "We detected a sudden increase in meth adulteration over the Summer, starting in May 2024, exactly corresponding to the increase in border seizures," Dasgupta et al. report. "The number one adulterant of meth was fentanyl. So, the impact of the border seizures may be bi-directional: Decreasing fentanyl-only overdoses and increasing fentanyl-methamphetamine overdoses."
More generally, Dasgupta et al. note that drugs seem to be "getting cheaper and cheaper across the board," citing price and purity trends in North Carolina. "If drug prices have been dropping for the past couple of years," they say, it is hard to credit "any suggestion that drops in [overdose] deaths have anything to do with interdiction efforts or the drug supply being significantly affected," let alone to the extent "where we see hundreds of thousands of people stopping use….If the drug supply is affected in such a way, it would almost certainly cause a rise in drug prices, where we have seen just the opposite."
Dasgupta et al. also think it is "unlikely" that increased access to drug treatment can account for the decline in overdoses. Although "some forms of forced-abstinence treatment increase overdose risk even more than continued drug use," they note, "evidence-based drug treatment"—by which they mean programs that replace street drugs with methadone or buprenorphine—"reduces overdoses." They consider two recent policy changes aimed at making such "medication-assisted treatment" easier to obtain.
In January 2023, the Drug Enforcement Administration eliminated the "X-waiver," an extra licensing requirement to prescribe buprenorphine. Last February, the Department of Health and Human Services announced regulations "making permanent COVID-19 era flexibilities that expand eligibility for patients to receive take-home doses of methadone."
While the timing of the first change makes it plausible that scrapping the X-waiver had something to do with declining overdoses, Dasgupta et al. say, research has shown that the number of prescribers increased while the number of patients did not. And since "the 2024 rule change was a continuation of temporary changes from 2020," they say, the impact "should have been seen earlier."
What about wider distribution of the opioid antagonist naloxone, which quickly reverses heroin and fentanyl overdoses? Dasgupta et al. note several possibly relevant recent developments.
In August 2022, the newly formed Remedy Alliance launched a program that provides "bulk naloxone at low or no cost to harm reduction programs." The following month, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) started a "massive scale-up of naloxone distribution via state health departments." In March 2023, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved over-the-counter (OTC) sales of Narcan, a naloxone nasal spray. In July 2023, the FDA approved the OTC sale of another brand, RiVive. Meanwhile, Dasgupta et al. say, the availability of generic versions was driving down retail prices.
The researchers think it is "plausible" that the SAMHSA-funded "naloxone saturation plans" had an impact, noting "fairly rapid" declines in overdoses after those plans were implemented. But they note that "implementation in some states started in earnest later than others" and "may now just be getting off the ground."
While "the drop in overdoses seemed to be happening around the time of OTC naloxone becoming available in pharmacies," Dasgupta et al. say, it's not clear how often those products have actually been used to reverse overdoses or how long it would take for the impact to be apparent. While OTC status "increases access to naloxone for worried parents," they note, "family members [are] less likely than peers to be present during [an] overdose."
Dasgupta et al. suggest a few other possible factors that do not hinge on deliberate interventions. If opioid users tend to be more experienced today than they were when fentanyl began proliferating as a heroin booster and substitute a decade ago, they may be less likely to overdose thanks to increased tolerance and/or greater caution. And if the introduction of the animal tranquilizer xylazine as a fentanyl adulterant decreased the typical number of doses per day, which Dasgupta et al. think is plausible given the former drug's pharmacological effects, that could have reduced the risk of overdosing.
Finally, although lower retail prices are the opposite of what drug warriors are trying to achieve, they mean that people are less likely to oscillate between using drugs when they can afford them and abstaining when they come up short. That pattern increases the risk of an overdose because tolerance declines during periods of abstinence, whether they result from arrest and jail, disruption of the local drug supply, or financial factors like high prices.
That is just one way in which the war on drugs increases the hazards it aims to mitigate. Prohibition makes drug use much more dangerous by creating a black market in which quality and purity are highly variable and unpredictable. Efforts to enforce prohibition magnify those hazards by encouraging injection instead of safer consumption methods, creating incentives for adulteration, and driving traffickers toward more potent drugs, such as fentanyl, that are easier to conceal and smuggle.
The crackdown on pain pills made all of this worse by replacing legally produced, reliably dosed pharmaceuticals with iffy street drugs, which became even iffier thanks to the prohibition-driven proliferation of illicit fentanyl. That crackdown succeeded in reducing opioid prescriptions, which fell by more than half from 2010 to 2022. Meanwhile, the opioid-related death rate more than tripled, while the annual number of opioid-related deaths nearly quadrupled.
Whatever the reasons, the upward trend in drug-related deaths finally seems to be reversing. As Dasgupta et al. suggest, drug warriors should not get credit for that turnaround, since nothing they have done recently can plausibly explain it. But they do deserve a large share of the blame for creating a situation in which an annual toll of more than 100,000 drug deaths looks like an improvement.
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I’ll take a jab and ask whether the drug users dying of other causes prior to reaching an overdose.
Dying from overdose or with overdose?
Depends on skin color.
NARCAN
Everybody has some.
Democrats like Gov. Hochul keep saying to not let the Jews escape. Never let them wiggle away.
Democrats say "The Jews must Pay".
And they say "We will walk into your home" to take your 2nd amendment (self defense) rights away.
The democrats in europe are throwing their political opposition in jail just like democrats do in the U.S.
The democrats want all women to cover their faces.
The democrats want all women to shut up via law.
The democrats want all citizens with low income to submit to wealthy billionaire democrats. Via sharia law.
Are hospitals still getting paid extra for covid deaths? If so, still seems worth testing all fatalities to see if a different cause of death should go on that certificate.
Values com into play in this and other decisions. DEA shills lowering the average IQ here sell violence when not on the dole. To them it makes eugenic sense to kill diabetics too, but political rights get in the way. Libertarians who advocate individual rights they fear the way shoplifters fear store detectives. The Opium Wars let the cat out of the bag. There really IS such a thing, and both World Wars were opium cartel wars. The side order exterminating Jews instead of insulin users was added later. Insulin was discovered in 1921, a year after Christian National Socialists published the Hitler platform.
Umm, because soros-harm-reduction progressive retard cities have started reversing their policies. It's been slow and painful, and your David Simon Fantasy Land Harm Reduction Bullshit was 100% a result of the sharp increase and body count.
This is what harm reduction got us. I'm writing this woman in for mayor.
And I hope she brings in this guy as her homelessness Czar.
A handful of arrests in and some forced 'diversions' in Seattle in October 2023 are responsible for 20,000 fewer deaths across the nation? Seems like a very wishful extrapolation of a microscopic data set.
Not that most even care, but do we know the names of any of these addicts and whether they're still alive now? That would seem to be a fairly good way to determine the actual 'success' of returning to the good, old-fashioned 'tried and true' Drug Warrior tactics that created much of this mess in the first place.
But maybe I misunderstood your comment : did you really mean to say the 'harm reduction [programs] were 100% a result of the sharp increase and body count' [...caused by decades of failed Drug War policies and wishful thinking/ignoring the Iron Law of Prohibition?]
Personally, I'd be happy with actual limited, Constitutional governance: no tax dollars enabling drug abusers OR drug warriors.
But maybe I misunderstood your comment : did you really mean to say the ‘harm reduction [programs] were 100% a result of the sharp increase and body count’ […caused by decades of failed Drug War policies and wishful thinking/ignoring the Iron Law of Prohibition?]
Without telepathy to read Rick James' mind: The gradual background march of prohibition is/may be responsible for gradual background deaths. The sudden slingshot upwards is the result of rampant 'alternative justice' and 'social support' programs. The dialing back of such programs represents a return towards the background level of "Deaths of Prohibition".
You say "A handful of arrests in and some forced ‘diversions’ in Seattle in October 2023" but the authors and the data itself are spot checked microscopic samples and piecemeal 'not-quite' explanations.
From Jacob's own source, "There is barely any public health intervention that has credibly achieved this magnitude of decrease."
At the very least, all the anti-prohibition "Don't convict drug offenders." "Restorative Justice" nonsense didn't make a dent, even by the data Sullum's using to support his rhetorical lies and statistical dishonesty.
The only reason these race-suicide lepers cannot legislate a death sentence for selling insulin is that the stuff is not pleasant. LSD, mescaline, MMDA, DMT, have never killed a soul. It therefore follows, as night follows day, they all draw the boiling wrath of Revealed Faith Mystics so accurately described as Anti-Life in Atlas Shrugged. Drooling after the chance to have someone else use deadly force to eliminate every choice other than gin and cigarettes is the apex of their scale of ethical values. Remember that on election day.
Drug Deaths Are Finally Declining. Nobody Really Knows Why...except for this one guy that comments at Reason.
I'm gonna guess it's because the supply of people inclined to die from drugs is not inexhaustible, and you can't die twice. Dying of drugs is a once in a lifetime event.
So if something suddenly dramatically increases the odds of dying of drugs, (But only for a particularly vulnerable segment of the population!) you get an immediate surge, but it has to eventually drop off to some base rate driven by how fast people enter the vulnerable population.
Same reason, essentially, that the rate of trees catching fire drops really low immediately after a forest fire.
Qing-Communist China tried the absolutist prohibition route. When opium addiction was below current rates for diabetes, Qing mystics and bureaucrats fastened onto decapitation as the obvious solution. That might have worked against hereditary diabetes, but opiate addiction is atrophy of normal functions brought about through natural selection. Pavaver plants evolved to enslave humans by replacing a bodily function. Those partly-crippled humans then raise more poppies. Because the anesthetic, unlike cocaine, requires increasing doses, surgeons are not eager to cut into addicts for lack of a way of gauging the proper medical dose. Free-markets are more likely than decapitation to offer substitutes, cures and competing drugs. Already CPZ reduces madness, hence vulnerability to the lure of opiates.
Are they declining - or is the *reporting* of drug deaths declining?
We are running out of addicts!
the coke & ecstasy crowd is dwindling because terror.
'Drug Deaths Are Finally Declining. Nobody Really Knows Why.'
Joy?
Yes, this is a hypothesis I'd take seriously. People may just be enjoying themselves more now in this country.
As usual, I'd like to see some comparison with trends in other countries.
Those trends were all that was talked about after Qing China fell to pieces pushing prohibition--with 25 million dead by the time Tilden beat Hayes. China's 1905 boycott of U.S. exports caused prohibition hysteria to push a Hague convention to ban non-habit-forming and addictive drugs alike. After the resulting World War the League of Nations took over under Article 23. Records in Geneva contain detailed records of cartel pressure. Most derivative works are by coercion advocates like Eisenlohr, Taylor and Anslinger. Only Brian Inglis went on record for education and freedom. The fact that dry and dope laws cause Crashes and Wars is now way too obvious to ignore.
“We don’t know why, but we know it isn’t because of the people I disagree with - because!”
This headline is both childish and illogical
OK, nobody knows why, but the mighty Sullum knows for sure it was NOT the drug war.
Got it.
(seriously, they expect me to PAY for this?)
Yeah, if there was ever a "No one knows the answer, but I know it wasn't any switches that I threw!" is a fantastic negaative-correlation-equals-causation-when-I-want-it narrative.
It feels and awful lot like "It couldn't be explained by all the sources we could possibly think of so the only thing left must be manmade CO2."
Global warming and pirates. Drug overdoses and EVs.
Electric vehicles are so popular people are giving up heroin. Why take crack when you could own a Mach-E?
Worse yet: “this is the most successful public health intervention of all time! Now we only need to figure out what we did in order to cause it…“
It couldn’t possibly be Individuals adjusting their behavior On their own. It must be the result of some government initiative, even if we can’t figure out which one it was.
Sullum exercises normal scholarly reticence, which is what enabled mouth-foaming carpet-biters to carry the day with superstitious exhortations to violence. Much actual data is diluted and paywalled so as to break anyone who works for a living before they can distill fact from fluff. Today Ecuadorians are forced to carry U.S. dollars, drive only on days their plate numbers match a list, freeze in the dark through rolling blackouts and suffer violence from the DEA and the anarchy DEA prohibitionism foisted on the population. Their cash crop is banned by lying foreigners with guns. Picture violent foreigners invading the USA with guns to ban wheat or tobacco--AFTER the current looters drag us into a nuclear exchange. That picture is a poster for voting Libertarian.
Drug warriors do not deserve credit for the turnaround, although they deserve blame for the previous explosion in fatal overdoses.
Not so libertarian to want to have your cake and eat it too, homie.
Further evidence of the decline in writing here.
Yeah and people are worried that the 10 Commandments in classrooms are what’s going to undo objective truth and destroy reason and critical thinking among the populace with unfalsifiable sky daddy narratives.
Before Public Education: He turned water into wine. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
Criticism: He couldn’t have turned water into wine. And nobody knows exactly when the Sabbath is so it’s not fair to keep it Holy.
After Public Education: Bees are fish. Burritos are sandwiches. Making fun of LatinX people is a racial hate crime. Girls can choose to cut off their genitals to become boys and we have to make sure they have the right to kill babies in order to support any decision they may make without their parents, except driving, drinking, smoking, tattoos, gun ownership, and vaccinations. Then Lord help anyone who gets in the way of us making decisions for anyone. Don’t ask us what a woman is.
Criticism: "Clearly the problem is too much binary thinking and too little cultural diversity." Reason Magazine
Drug deaths have been on the decline in Western Canada because of safe supply, safe consumption sites and every second young person has a naloxone kit hanging from their backpack. But don't worry, were ramping-up for elections that are promising to reverse all that and Make Overdoses Deadly Again.
Here's a handy graph of overdose deaths in Vancouver. Insite went into action in 2011.
During a brief drop in overdose deaths in 2011, Insite took the credit for those. Then as overdose deaths blew through the Van Allen Radiation Belt they were quick to say, "It's not our fault, it's the fentanyls!" and then claimed it was because they weren't Insite-ing hard enough and if we just had more Insite, drug overdoses would all be but a distant memory.
No, even I wouldn't SOLELY blame Insite for the massive upsurge in overdose deaths. But the philosophy behind it is very near to 100%.
Anyone unfamiliar with how econazis cherrypick chart intervals to "prove" electricity is about to cause climate Sharknados any minute now can go to http://www.realclimatescience.com. (Trumpanzistas take note: Tony had a near-death experience and became a religious republican some years back, but can still handle Maxwell equations). His charts go back to the 1930s, and he displays government charts so crudely faked they contradict EACH OTHER. Where are overdose charts going back to 1960?
So you enable the junkies in their behavior and think you're virtuous in your actions.
It’s astounding the people who are all “Executing a violent felon irreparably damages a person’s psyche.” just assume that there are untold legions of medical staff out there overjoyed to watch someone destroy themselves chemically, shitting themselves all along the way, just so that they can revive them in the nick of time and get them cleaned up for them to come back in and do it all again tomorrow.
HAH! I personally witnessed a black Canadian undercover narc distributing LSD in Vancouver the way U.S. informants dragged around bottles of nitrous oxide as an aid to infiltration on the other side of the border. There were opiate addicts, descended from when the Canadian and GB Union Jack flew over Opium War gunboats and dumped Indian Opium on China under the same flag. I was sent out to help a guy on the only bad trip I ever saw: a shellshocked American who'd fled military enslavement. Right then I realized Chlorpromazine (CPZ) ought to be sold over the counter like aspirin.
Because putting Covid on a death certificate is just easier for everyone? Politicians can use colorful posters to show that their drug policies are working, cops don't have to do anything at all, and the decedent's family gets to say that getting dead wasn't actually his own fault.
It certainly is easier than admitting to have voted to bully-pulpit Orango-Hitler so he could insult China into giving These States a little schmear of Comrade Jack London's "The Unparalleled Invasion" https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2020/05/01/germ-warfare-and-china/
How smart was that?
"Drug Deaths Are Finally Declining. Nobody Really Knows Why."
Could it be a lot of people recognize taking drugs is a risky proposition?
Nah, that couldn't be it.
All sane people want to play Russian roulette with their bodies.
They’re probably just lying with statistics again.
+1 They are *always* lying with statistics. The issue is how much they bothered to make this particular lie reflect reality.
Could it just be that people in the USA are happier now?
Yes. Most of the decrease in drug poisonings occurred in states that recently stopped shooting kids and stealing cars, bank accounts and homes over hemp leaves. Most states where pot is legal are Dem states beaten by Libertarian spoiler votes in the 2016 election, remember? Hillary, Obama et alii stood foursquare against legalization and defended prohibition all the way to the unemployment line. Before Reagan banned LSD, hardly anyone in California was using poisonous poppy dope in the sixties, and none had ever seen coca stimulants.
although they deserve blame for the previous explosion in fatal overdoses.
I'm willing to accept responsibility for that. And I don't care even slightly about those deaths. They were 100% avoidable. Recreational drug use is just a gussied-up version of Russian Roulette.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
There are precisely two places where recreational drug users belong in America: in rehab, or rotting in a ditch.
In your mind does that include boozers?
Losertarians equating drugs with alcohol! *drink*
No, of course not, zoo. The fallout of alcohol is laughably minimal compared to that of recreational drug use. You show me the tent city of shuffling shambling zombies made up of alcoholics, and we'll talk. You show me a comparison of corpses found with a needle in their arm vs those with an empty bottle of hooch at their feet, and we'll talk. You show me a crime rate of junkies looking to feed their next fix next to that of a boozer looking for his next bottle of MD2020, and we'll talk.
But until you can show me those things, you're comparing apples to zebras. Society has shown, for thousands of years, that it can be responsible - at least to a socially/culturally acceptable degree (even among the Irish!) - with alcohol.
It has shown the exact opposite with recreational drug use.
ATF's mystical fantasies are different from facts. Alcohol prohibition in the USA sharply increased opiate use--which is what kills when doses are unmeasured. The Jones-Miller law added more prohibition and had the same effect as the Hague Opium convention and Harrison act 10 and 8 years earlier. Demand is multiplied fourfold and cops with immunity and connections replace druggists to cash in on the bonanza. In the Haight and in Austin, few young adults bought alcohol or depressants while acid and weed were abundant. If overdose death graphs indicated otherwise, looter bureaucracies would gleefully post overdose charts going back 70 or 150 years. Instead, such data are kept from existing.
Alcohol prohibition in the USA sharply increased opiate use–which is what kills when doses are unmeasured.
18A was repealed almost a hundred years ago, and anyone doing opiates at the time instead of drinking are likely long dead. The sharp increase in opiate use in the last 2-3 decades has nothing whatsoever to do with prohibition because alcohol is readily available for the users/addicts.
Put down the crack pipe.
When redneck looters banned psychedelics and instituted weed witchhunts, tabletop South American cocaine moved into the economic niche competing with gin and cigarettes. The thought of darker races in U.S. colonies again profiting from superstitious folly caused Reagan, Biden, Kerry and the like to draw up piles of asset-forfeiture laws when nobody used opiates and deaths from coca products averaged 2 per state per year--same as gallstones. None of these looters or their dupes claim credit for the change to current official figures.
This from the same KKK that insists on reciting that cigarettes and gin are drugs, which they are. Communism and christianity are both religions, but those same equivocators can be counted on to lie about that just as stolidly.
Perhaps a cartel controlling a significant portion of the illicit market has improved quality control and standardized dosage.
The cartel with the most weight in addictive dope markets since 1905 has been China. It could be that Communist Emperor Chan Ling Fance deemed it advantageous to reduce fentanyl dumping in the US before the election. Similar reasoning may have led to increased dumping of Chinese germ lab runoff in the US once a mystical bigot irritatingly critical of China squeaked past the electoral college after losing the popular vote. No law of nature says it couldn't happen again if Orange Hitler squeaks past a second time.
CDC's provisional counts
Pfbbbt! Is this the same CDC that's said for over a decade that some quarter to half a million Lyme Disease cases, without any medical visits or tick bites, go unreported every year?
Sounds about as real as the jobs numbers and we should wait until they get revised before jumping to any negative-association-equals-causation conclusions.
It's really nobodies business in a free-nation.
Ensuring Individual Liberty and Justice for all is what it should be about.
"Drug Deaths Are Finally Declining. Nobody Really Knows Why."
A lot of junkies are already dead?
I think you've got it!
Can't die twice, after all.
Because killing off your customers by selling a fatal product isn't a great long term business strategy? At this point only a moron would experiment with heroin or fentanyl.
I used the linked data for States that had repealed marijuana prohibition and added the year of repeal. Whether you sort by repeal year or direction of percentage change, the results show that for the 17 states that repealed pot prohibition all but 4 repealed starting the year the LP's 4.3 million votes redealt 127 electoral vote outcomes in 13 states. The largest drops in poisonings occurred in the states that most recently repealed prohibition. This is evidence of pent-up demand for harmless drugs like weed and psychedelics. It is also evidence that the Dems copied LP weed policy after being beaten with the help of LP spoiler votes in 2016. Learning from experience saves lives.
I beg to differ. The most likely explanation is evolution and adaptation among the suppliers of illicit drugs and their customers. High body counts do not benefit anyone except people who think that drug users don't deserve to live anyway, and so they get what they do deserve. Suppliers don't want to kill their customers. Users want to get high with the real thing, not something adulterated with lethal stuff. Information almost certainly flows up and down through the chain of interested parties, from the street to the labs and everywhere in between, about addressing the lethality problem. And since the DEA and other LE are not popular in the drugs ecosystem, new information is kept from them whenever possible.
Looking back at my old dance cards, I came across something one of the state's prominent alcohol advisers and consultants. I had invited him to address my public health class about alcohol, and a few students had questions for him about stuff like dry drunks and drunk driving. He told me that after the successful MADD campaign against drinking and driving, lots of people were encouraged to think of both two-drink driving and 10-drink driving as premeditated murder. He said that if that were true then all streets and roads would be lined with corpses every weekend. He said that driving after drinking is like a lot of other skills that can be learned with practice. So today, selling and using illicit drugs is the same kind of skill that can be learned. It's a more complex ecosystem than includes alcohol as well, so adaptation may take longer, but it will happen.
Users want to get high with the real thing, not something adulterated with lethal stuff.
Don’t kid yourself or gaslight anyone else. They don’t care one way or the other. As long as they get high, they don’t care what they’re smoking, snorting, or shooting. They’ll snort parmesan cheese off a grimy floor if they think it’ll get/keep them stoned.
That’s the ONLY thing that matters to any drug user: the high.
This is why nobody cares about their body counts. Stoners checked out of society long ago. Hell with ’em.
Spoken like a true drunk.
Pretty sure I already did that reply. LIBtard, you posting under sock accounts?
I always suspected that if more people opted to intoxicate on hallucinogens rather than the highly addictive body high drugs with their associated lethal overdose propensities, we’d see far less drug use associated deaths. Assuming the trippers stay away from large volumes of water.
Yes. It was a fad during prohibition go gull the pious into gulping down the lethal dose for half the consumers of water. That DL50 is 2 gallons, and what kills the suckers coasting "no hands" on the water wagon was shock due to electrolyte imbalance--kinda like 500 REM in the old radiation dose system. In 1968-9 in the Haight almost nobody had ever seen cocaine. Some had seen opium and smack because it was San Francisco. Acid cost 80¢ to $2 a dose and nobody ever died from it. Nobody ever died from mescaline and I guarantee nobody's kids ever ate mom's peyote stash. Almost nobody drank any beer either, and THAT plus superstition goes a long way toward explaining the violence of law added.
One of the things I was getting at is people die (generally speaking) from hallucinogens by either consuming too much water (mdma), drowning (disorientation, can’t tell up from down) and/or adulterants. Meth, opiates, barbs, etc. can cause a myriad of physiological death inducing conditions.
Here's an explanation of why after the faith-based Waffen Bush asset-forfeiture Crash, the stampede to repeal pot prohibition was triggered by LP candidates getting 4.3M votes. Asset-forfeiture confiscation of mortgaged homes wrecked the derivatives market, people saw through the lies, and 3 states hedged by repeal. But Obama and Hillary spitting on their constituents caused the LP bolting that shuffled 127 electoral votes and elected Drumpf. Dems have since repealed cruel weed laws in another 14 States. THAT's leveraged Libertarian spoiler vote clout in action. https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2024/09/20/legalize-non-toxic-cannabis/
Darwin in Action!