California Bill Requires All New Cars To Beep When You Speed
Drivers in the state narrowly avoided an even harsher restriction on their automotive freedom.

On Saturday, a new driver safety law passed the California legislature. Senate Bill 961 requires every passenger vehicle of the 2030 model year and beyond to "utilize a brief, one-time, visual and audio signal to alert the driver each time the speed of the vehicle is more than 10 miles per hour over the speed limit." Passing the Assembly 42–12 and the Senate 26–9, the only thing that stands between S.B. 961 becoming law is Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom's signature. Once the bill becomes law, violations would not carry mere civil penalties but "would be punishable as a crime."
NPR reports that California state Sen. Scott Wiener (D–San Francisco), who introduced the legislation in January, was surprised by "the intensity" of the pushback. In the NPR piece, Wiener recalled a text from one of his "very best friends in the world" telling him "what a terrible idea [the bill] was" on the day of its announcement as evidence of public disapproval. But an intense response is hardly surprising, in light of the bill's original text.
As introduced, S.B. 961 was about a lot more than just one annoying beep. It called for automatic throttling of speeding vehicles. As introduced, the bill required "the GPS location of the vehicle [to be] compared with a database of posted speed limits, to determine the speed limit, and electronically limi[t] the speed of the vehicle to prevent the driver from exceeding the speed limit by more than 10 miles per hour." As introduced, the bill would have made "every passenger vehicle, motortruck, and bus manufactured or sold in the state" of the 2027 model year and beyond incapable of driving more than 10 miles per hour above the limit.
Ultimately, Wiener relented and amended the bill in April. Given that modern seatbelt alarms require "repetitive, successive, or ongoing warnings each time a vehicle exceeds the speed threshold," Californian drivers have reason to be grateful that such alarms are merely not precluded in the current bill. They also have reason to regard the bill as superfluous.
The most popular phone-based navigation apps, Google Maps, (Apple) Maps, and Waze include visual and auditory signals when drivers go over the speed limit whatsoever. Still, speed signals are optional on these apps, and not everybody is as dependent on Google Maps and CarPlay.
Citing the rise in reckless driving since the pandemic, Wiener emphasizes that "dangerous speeding [is] placing all Californians in danger, and by taking prudent steps to improve safety, we can save lives." The senator's concern for public safety is well taken, but there's already a prudent, private, and voluntary alternative: auto insurance programs that use apps to track driving habits and reward safe drivers with discounted rates. Programs like Allstate's Drivewise, USAA's SafePilot, GEICO's DriveEasy, and State Farm's Drive Safe & Save enrolled 16.8 million North American drivers in 2022, according to market researcher Berg Insight.
Unfortunately, none of these programs are available to Californian drivers. This is due to California Proposition 103, passed by popular initiative in 1988, which "instituted a regulatory system where the Insurance Commissioner must approve a rate applied for by an insurer before its use." The 40-year-old prior-approval system prohibits auto insurers from adjusting rates based on driver behavior.
Before mandating sticks, Californian legislators should allow carrots to incentivize safe driving.
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What about all that delicious regressive revenue from tickets?
They're going to start automating it. That big fancy touchscreen in the middle of your car that's monitoring everything, along with that pocket computer you've got inside the car with you - they're monitoring real-time data and reporting it.
Y'know Google Maps, how it can tell you the traffic data (red = slow, green = no traffic) of pretty much anywhere - especially in urban/suburban areas? It's doing that by collecting all the GPS data off everyone's phones/cars and determining whether you're moving as fast as you arguably should be for that particular location. Same way Tesla's can set evolving premiums based on driving habits (eg. jackrabbit starts, hard braking, speeding, weaving, etc.).
We're only a steps away from the Demolition Man "utopia" of automatic systems instantly fining you for real-time infractions. "John Spartan, you are fined three credits..."
And adjusting your social credit score accordingly.
The follow-up bill will require that functionality starting in 2029 model year to just email the CHP your telemetry data, GPS coordinates and timestamp along with a snapshot of the driver (so they can check facial recognition against the DMV database) from the dashcam. Then they'll just auto-deduct the fine money from your bank account or wages based on FTB records.
No need for a Wisconsin-style snitch-line when they can just force everyone to pay for their own surveilience and carry it with them...
It's baffling that anyone in this state actually buys into the idea that these fucks are looking to do anything with freedom and democracy other shut them down to whatever extent they can get away with. What a world we'd have in CA if people thought they could actually feed themselves without the re-charge onto their EBT/SNAP card every month...
Rooting for that earthquake.
Giant Meteor 2024!
I now I have a preferred impact location.
Same. A wall wouldn't be enough.
see you down in Arizona Bay ...
"The 40-year-old prior-approval system prohibits auto insurers from adjusting rates based on driver behavior."
This is absolutely not true. I don't know what the law is, or how they get around it, but State Farm raised my rates when my new car's OnStar subscription lapsed. I didn't even know they were giving state farm this data- I'm sure at some point I signed a contract that allowed it. But when I didn't renew the complementary subscription, State Farm called me the next month saying that unless I renew to get 3rd party data back, I would face increased rates.
Now to be fair, I am pretty sure this is just mileage per day data, not speed limits. But it is still driver behavior.
Either your not in California (in which case you story doesn't matter since it's a CA-specific insurance regulation) or your insurance agent is spinning you a line.
But no, according to the definitions used in insurance regulations (in CA and more widely), total miles driven is not "driver behavior". Miles driven is a different rating criteria that is approved for insurance underwriting - and has been in all states almost since the invention of the automobile.
sorry, "your" -> "you're" and "you" -> "your". Didn't notice my typos within the edit window.
Hey Wiener and other fucktard Democrats! I will consider accepting a car that beeps when I speed only if you accept a virus that makes your nose grow when you lie.
California voters get what they deserve. Vote for progtards, this is what you get.
Well, all Californians, voters or not, get what the progtard voters deserve. And with laws like this, it's likely that all American car buyers end up getting what California progtards deserve.
California had more Trump voters than any other state.
They are most definitely not getting what they vote for.
NPR reports that California state Sen. Scott Wiener (D–San Francisco), who introduced the legislation in January, was surprised by "the intensity" of the pushback. In the NPR piece, Wiener recalled a text from one of his "very best friends in the world" telling him "what a terrible idea [the bill] was" on the day of its announcement as evidence of public disapproval. But an intense response is hardly surprising, in light of the bill's original text.
And yet, become law it will....
How are the new cars going to know what the speed limit is?
Hint: This is a loaded question, answer carefully.
How does your GPS know what the speed limit is?
Google maps knows, so they'll just outsource that to a 3rd party that's already solved the problem.
Sure, it's not always accurate but they don't actually give a fuck about that.
My 2023 Nissan is pretty good about Reading road signs, although it misses a few. Of course that can be defeated with some black tape on the windshield or pulling a connector.
What's really disturbing is that it complains when there's not a phone connected while driving. No problem for now but we are one California law away from requiring a phone to be connected to the car.
Don’t worry, there will be a mandatory cell device built-in to new models ostensibly for “safety purposes” (and tracking, and squealing - anything a statist technocrat might want to do).
In the future there will be no new cars. It's all about walkability, baby!
California is truly the nursery of horrible ideas.
From a natural perspective, California should be paradise on Earth. It's really just the perfect place.
And this is what we've done with it.
Well, except for the fires and earthquakes and the fact that it doesn't rain at all for half of the year.
Oh, you’re effin’ kidding me. Glad I got out.
It's bad enough trying to figure out how to disable all the "driver assist" functions in rental cars already. Some beep when you steer to the right to avoid oncoming traffic or potholes, while others will actually fight you for the steering wheel. One car helpfully braked for me in heavy traffic, even though I was being tailgated and had plenty of room ahead of me.
I recently had a rental car that tried to steer for me sometimes. I didn't manage to figure out when, though, and it was just weird and confusing. Feels like something broke in the front end.
My guess is keeping you within whatever lane it was hallucinating.
My mom’s car beeps whenever I hug the right and I swear it’s going to get me killed. Startles me just as I’m swerving to avoid an oncoming vehicle or a wide load, etc. My brain reacts like it’s someone honking warning me I’m about to hit something and makes me want to correct. I hate it.
I thought there weren't going to be cars in California by then - - - - - - -
I see a new TikTok challenge coming.
The Freedom party strikes again!
Yet one more reason I won't be visiting California again.
I'm pretty sure this law is not aimed at "visitors", but...you do you.
Cool, one more fuse to preemptively pull out of the vehicle upon purchase. That's still legal, right?
Always good to replace it with a blown fuse, just in case.
So the 'solution' to speeding is to annoy the hell out of everyone else and make other drivers more unsafe.
Hell at least a hammer flying out of the steering wheel towards your head would be the right target.
Weiner has FRIENDS?!
What was it in another article posted about dictators? I guess as long as it's leftist dictators, it's alright then.
Judging from the actions of the government in Sacramento one could easily claim it is a dictatorship by all standards with the dictator in chief Gavin Newsom.
But everyone knows DJT is a nazi/fascist dictator and posts mean tweets. After all look how much the nation suffered under herr Trump's fascist regime!! Why gasoline was nearly 50% lower than now and grocery prices were much lower. Talk about fascism!
Yes America needs the democracy that only Harris/Walz will bring to the people. And by democracy, meaning you will have no freedom of speech and you will enjoy the freedom of not needing to buy gasoline for your car cause there won't be any. And you will eat crickets.
Which Constitutional right is infringed by this "dictatorial" legislative over-achievement?
If you'd bothered to read the article carefully you might have noticed that it was the state's largely democratic legislature which had passed the law--which the "dictator" Gavin Newsom had yet to sign into law.
First they mandate that your car uses tracking software to monitor your speed and adjust your driving behavior.
Next they demand remote access to that tracking data.
Then they demand the ability to remotely override your car's systems.
How much more freedom can anyone tolerate?
Funny thing; just last night I was looking at used sports cars from the seventies, without a single computer in them. The only electrical things were the starter, lights, and radio.
They cost less than the down payment on a new(er) car, too.
Next up in the CA legislature: Banning all motorized vehicles and replacing them with horses, buggies, stagecoaches and carts.
Just think how much reduction in pollution that will do!
Everyone becomes Amish!
@3:56 - CA: All ungulates and any vehicles or implements pulled thereby will be required to have (MOAR) cow bells.
But the horses can't shit or die.
Paliqiins carried by immigrants?
Who the fuck drives less than 10 miles over the speed limit?
There isn't a single part of your life that Democrats don't want to control and tell you what to do. Authoritarianism and tyranny are their DNA.
Is that a camel’s nose I see?
I don't care is California state Sen. Scott Wiener (D–San Francisco) want to add a automatic throttle and beeper to his car, but I do care that he wants to force this on the consumers. It high time to say a strong and emphatic NO to the tyranny of the California government.
The sad thing is wan-a-be twits like Minnesota Governor Tim Walz buys into all this nonsense and they tries to catch up the the idiocy of the twits in California.
Do you have the same reaction to speed limits in general, or do you just not realize what you're saying?
ONS, you obviously support this but I'm trying to understand your point. You say it doesn't apply to visitors, correct because their cars won't have it. It would apply to rent cars.
But more importantly, the issue it takes away by big brother is choice. It's my choice to go over the speed limit and take the risk. I know the risk be it higher accident or tickets.
But let's go beyond that - since the government is trying to make everyone safe - is the car going to slam on the brakes at a red light or narc on you. People blew up about the red light cameras.
CA is already talking added a mileage tax because EVs don't pay the gas tax.
What about a breath analyzer for drugs and alcholo on every car.
Women can't drive in flip flops or over 2 inch heels?
No talking in the car or eat because it leads to distraction which is accidents.
I know nanny people think they are smarter than everyone and saving them. Everyone is dumb but them right?
Where is your line? Bubble wrap everyone?
My 1999 minivan needs serious work, but the more I deal with new cars, the more valuable the old one gets. I helped a friend shop for a car and the one she bought only had one key. (Which I was belatedly told is s common scam)
I had *no idea* what had happened with just the key to start the thing. $200 on the cheap end for a *key*.
I'm old, poor and out of touch with all the new car stuff. Every new addition like this makes our economy more vulnerable to stuff outside our control. One good coronal ejection and everything that depends on satellites will be bricked.
In the 1970s Cadillac had a seat belt warning system that said 'your seatbelt is not fastened - your seatbelt is not fastened' over and over until you either fastened the belt or tore the speaker out of the car.
Damages related to trying to silence the system was the most common repair in shops for that model year.
Everyone I knew just fastened the belt, pulled it tight, and then sat on it.
Obviously the whole law is crap in all forms, but I am genuinely amazed that anyone would propose automatic throttling without realizing how difficult that would make it to get out of unsafe situations on the road.
California Democrats, busy busy busy!
Thank goodness Kamala is such a moderate.
Scott Wiener is the degenerate groomer scumbag who pushed the anti-parent legislation that prompted Musk to abandon California altogether.
-jcr
Auto manufacturers would be VERY VERY WISE to boycott CA.
How many sales would they really loose anyways; CA wants EV mandated.
He is a blithering idiot. I’m not going to look it up but guarantee you he is a millennial soy boy.
Kaliforians voted for Progressives and they are doing just what was expected, creating a nanny state.
I already have one of those things that makes noises when I hit 85 mph. It's called a wife