Donald Trump and Hunter Biden Face the Illogical Consequences of an Arbitrary Gun Law
Their cases illustrate the injustice of taking away people’s Second Amendment rights based on nonviolent crimes

On the heels of a New York conviction that stripped Donald Trump of his Second Amendment rights, a federal jury in Delaware is considering whether Hunter Biden violated three gun laws when he bought a revolver in 2018. If Biden is convicted of those felonies, he also will lose the constitutional right to armed self-defense.
These two cases—one involving the president's son, the other involving his opponent in this year's election—highlight the arbitrariness of a federal law that deprives Americans of their gun rights for reasons that have nothing to do with public safety. That constitutionally dubious law treats millions of Americans with no history of violence as public menaces who can never be trusted with firearms.
This policy is relatively recent. The original federal restriction, enacted in 1938, applied only to violent crimes such as murder, manslaughter, rape, kidnapping, and robbery. In 1961, Congress expanded the ban to cover nonviolent crimes punishable by more than a year of incarceration.
That category of "prohibited persons," UCLA law professor Adam Winkler notes, is "wildly overinclusive," encompassing many crimes that are "not violent in the least." The Trump and Biden cases illustrate that point.
Leaving aside the shaky legal reasoning that allowed New York prosecutors to convert a hush payment into 34 felonies, falsification of business records, even to aid or conceal "another crime," is not a violent crime that marks someone as apt to injure or kill people with a gun. Nor is buying a firearm as an "unlawful user" of a "controlled substance," which Biden allegedly did in 2018, when he admits he was regularly smoking crack cocaine.
However you assess Biden's suitability as a gun owner back then, he has been sober for years. Yet if he is convicted of the gun charges against him, which involve illegal possession and misrepresenting himself as a legal buyer, he will not only face up to 25 years in prison; he will also permanently lose his Second Amendment rights.
Prior to his trial, Biden argued that the gun charges should be dismissed because the ban on firearm possession by drug users is unconstitutional. Last year, his lawyers noted, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit overturned a cannabis consumer's conviction under that statute, rejecting the government's argument that his prosecution was "consistent with this Nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation"—the constitutional test that the U.S. Supreme Court established in 2022.
U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika, who is presiding over Biden's case, denied his motion, saying he had failed to show that the ban he allegedly flouted is unconstitutional on its face. But she said he could still challenge the ban as applied to him if he is convicted.
In addition to the 5th Circuit, at least three federal courts have deemed prosecuting marijuana users for gun possession unconstitutional. Courts also have questioned the provision that bars people with a wide range of criminal records from owning guns.
Last year, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit restored the gun rights of a man who had been convicted of food stamp fraud. In light of that decision, a federal judge in Pennsylvania did the same for a man who had been convicted of driving under the influence.
Although those offenses were misdemeanors, they triggered the federal ban because they were notionally punishable by more than a year in prison. The 3rd Circuit emphasized the danger of giving legislators broad discretion to "manipulate the Second Amendment" by deciding how to label and punish crimes.
History "demonstrates that legislatures have the power to prohibit dangerous people from possessing guns," Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote in a 2019 dissent from an appeals court decision involving a mail fraud conviction. "But that power extends only to people who are dangerous."
As the Trump and Biden cases show, that test requires more than a legislative decision to classify an offense as a felony.
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NOTHING is as stale as “orange man bad”!
(With the implied idea being that “anyone who says bad things about Orange Man, no matter HOW long and well-documented the list of Trump evils may be, such bad-things-sayer must be a stupid moron”).
Albert Einstein delivers a long lecture with 553 equations and tons of evidence. Conservative moron will say that Einstein said “stuff and stuff is relative”, and walk smugly away, thinking that they have “summarized” Einstein!
Conservative moron will ATTEMPT TO START to tour Holocaust museums and “summarize” by saying “Mustache Man Bad”! (And skip the tour, lest they might actually learn something).
Fucking stupid, smart-ass moronic conservatives STOP smugly posting vacuous “Orange Man Bad”, if you EVER expect to convince data-driven thinkers of ANYTHING!
"Conservative moron will say that Einstein said “stuff and stuff is relative”, and walk smugly away, thinking that they have “summarized” Einstein!"
That is not a "conservative" conclusion, that is literally the postmodernist Left conclusion.
Well, yes, everything is just a "value judgment", and only simpletons will say that any ethics-related opinion or religion is "better" than another... Who are we to say what is right and what is wrong?!
But then of COURSE conservative America Christians are backwoods rubes and hypocrites, while Islamic people are cool and with-it "diverse" folks!
I can only assume you haven't been paying attention.
Einstein was a fraud and plagiarist. His equations were junk.
A fraud who keeps getting proven right by new measurements as soon as we are able to make them?
As Einstein said when asked what he thought of 100 German scientists signing a letter saying he was wrong about relativity: "if they could prove I was wrong, they would only need one German scientist."
Somehow I doubt you have the background in physics or mathematics to make that statement with any reliability.
WTF gun law violation does Donald Trump face?
I agree that the law Hunter is being prosecuted under is stupid. But we need to all follow the same rules and not make special cases.
Trump 'can't have a gun because of the weird-assed conviction' is not exactly equivalent.
'Violent felons should get their gun rights back' - I don't think that's the vote-getting, consensus-building, winning strategy we really need to promote as libertarians.
Who are you quoting for “Violent felons should get their gun rights back”? It’s not in Sullum’s article.
And the stupid law being used against Hunter is hardly ever used, although it is used more than the law used against Trump.
Non violent felons are unable to pass the background check required to purchase a firearm from an FFL Dealer. That's is what Donald Trump now faces. As for current possession of firearms he can be prosecuted for felon in possession of a firearm if he is ever caught with a gun around any law enforcement officers.
Somehow I doubt he managed to have his guns fall into a waterhazzard while golfing. He's well known for having guns and no doubt his political enemies won't rest until those guns are far out of his possession.
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Butt OF COURSE shit is DOUBLE-unGood when "Team R" SuperHeroes are punished, but GOOD when "Team D" gets punished!
Hunter lied to the federal government on the form about not being a druggie. That's his crime. Lame, but it's applied to many others.
In any event, I really doubt either actually care about owning a gun. Hunter wanted it so he could pose with the guns and dope in pictures looking cool.
Trump's hands are too tiny to use anything but a .380 maybe. But that he cares not for guns is illustrated by his illegal bump stock ban. Much like Hunter, he's just a poseur when it comes to guns, only trying to look cool to Republicans, not crack whores.
He also has Secret Service protection for life, so he actually has no "self defense" need to own a gun. But, that's not relevant insofar as the 2nd Amendment is concerned.
Non-violent felons should not be banned from possessing firearms, certainly not after their period of incarceration or probation has ended.
Judging from some of the statements made by witnesses at Hunter's trial it appears Hunter was even worse than ever.
Hunter Biden is pure trash.
Says who?!?
I wouldn't trust a damned thing Hunter says. He's lied more often than the big guy's press secretaries.
Until they prosecute whoever keeps dropping bags of cocaine inside the WH I really cannot trust that he's been sober for a day let alone years.
That could have been anyone!
Was Churchill prescient?
˝My friends, I must tell you that a Socialist policy is abhorrent to the British ideas of freedom... Socialism is, in its essence, an attack upon the right of the ordinary man or woman to breathe freely without having a harsh, clumsy tyrannical hand clapped across their mouths and nostrils.
But I will go farther. I declare to you, from the bottom of my heart that no Socialist system can be established without a political police. Many of those who are advocating Socialism or voting Socialist today will be horrified at this idea. That is because they are shortsighted, that is because they do not see where their theories are leading them.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance. And this would nip opinion in the bud; it would stop criticism as it reared its head, and it would gather all the power to the supreme party and the party leaders, rising like stately pinnacles above their vast bureaucracies of Civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil. And where would the ordinary simple folk — the common people, as they like to call them in America — where would they be, once this mighty organism had got them in its grip?˝ - Winston Churchill, June 4, 1945
Thanks for the quote! It fits in here rather well!
wow, Churchill predicted the whole disinformation police thing.
"Their cases illustrate the injustice of taking away people’s Second Amendment rights based on nonviolent crimes"
Leading the Jan. 06 insurrection was not a violent crime? Didn't anyone see Trump kill that policeman with a deadly full-auto fire extinguisher?
Trump has not been convicted of any violent crimes. Yet.
Give them time, the Kommisariat will come up with something.
Not only has Trump not been convicted of "Leading the Jan. 06 insurrection", he hasn't even been charged with that.
The only person killed during the fedsurrection was Ashli Babbitt. She was murdered by a police officer that filed a false report of being under fire after being the only person in the affair to discharge a firearm. That's murder and a cover-up.
Wow. Apparently your sarcasm game sucks, bro. I thought it was obvious, but... *sigh*
OMG don't you know it's all about who, not what?
The law must be applied differently depending upon the person. Trump is an innocent victim because he's Trump, Hunter is guilty as sin because he's a Biden, and don't get me started on criminal aliens who are illegal because they are illegal.
See? It all depends upon who, not what.
More Self-Projection.
Only someone with a bad case of WHO (Trump) not WHAT can't recognize a difference between a drug-abuser and cooked up charges on an accounting ledger. Heck; the two incidents are in entirely different provisions of the law itself.
The law is complete BS (written, pitched and passed by Democrats) but if Trump was a known drug abuser I'm sure that would be more of a factor of people's opinion on the matter than just being Trump himself. (as you infer)
Agreed, besides the behaviors of the two are worlds apart. Trump though he may be an asshole is nowhere near the human failure Hunter Biden is. His failures are not illegal but his moral compass is totally missing.
It's worth noting that the Hunter Biden gun prosecution was originally part of a plea deal that would have allowed him to get immunity for more serious crimes. It was a get out of jail free card negotiated with the DOJ. The terms of the deal required zero jail time. When the presiding judge called out the prosecution for this unprecedented deal, they had to cover their asses. Hunter declared the plea null and void and then claimed it was still in effect when the charges were brought. Joe Biden's DOJ got caught letting the statutes of limitations expire on numerous much more serious crimes. The trial is being held in Biden friendly Delaware. I'm cool with bitching about the 2A implications here but to compare this trial to the relentless lawfare against Trump is just silly. This is a slap on the wrist.
Thanks for the reminder. There's so much of this shit going on that it's hard to keep track of.
I see. The Trump trial should have been moved out of Trump-unfriendly New York City, but the Biden trial should have been moved out of Biden-friendly Delaware, because reasons.
The "reasons" in this case being as follows: in both cases, the trial should have been moved to a region that was as neutral to the party on trial as possible, given the circumstances.
Not unfriendly. Not friendly. Neutral. For example, a place where the Trump vote and Biden vote were within a percentage point or two of each other. There are probably Counties in New York State where this would have applied to Trump, and likely locations in Delaware could have been found for Hunter Biden.
" . . . highlight the arbitrariness of a federal law that deprives Americans of their gun rights . . . "
I think you misspelled 'unconstitutional'.
I actually agree with Sullum for once. But I do see how he had to drag Trump in there just to get the both-sides part in.
Prosecuting Hunter is like getting Capone on tax evasion. They wanted something, anything to appease the FOX crowd. But, as you tell your teenager when they get a speeding ticket, "stop whining, you got caught". It seems like a pretty clear law violation. It is sketchy though. Addicts often have messed up notions of their own addiction. So finding intent is hard. He may well have not identified as an addict while filling out the form. If he gets acquitted that may have something to do with it.
Coupling white collar crimes with gun rights is not warranted. It should be tied to violent tendencies. That said, white collar criminals get away with way too much in this country and so I don't have sympathy for Trump or any other billionaire in the same situation. He has private guards with guns anyway and I can't even imagine a pampered prep school elite like Trump handling a gun. It's kind of funny to think about.
Drugs and guns should be none of the federal government's business. The Second Amendment prohibits them from doing anything about guns, and they never passed the needed Constitutional amendment to ban drugs like they did for alcohol Prohibition.
Injustice is injustice. I understand wanting to lash out in revenge, but looking at the larger picture the momentary feeling of satisfaction will be fleeting with the realization that your personal freedoms are damaged.
Donald Trump should not have been charged and convicted and Hunter Biden being taken to count with weapons charges is wrong also.
The article should be titled: Donald Trump and Hunter Biden Face the Consequences of an Arbitrary Gun Law and a Rational Gin Law Respectively.
I don't personally want people addicted to illegal drugs owning guns. Laws preventing that are not, in my opinion, "arbitrary". There are many state and federal bans on possession of a gun and simple possession of illegal drugs... Actual use of the drugs would be worse, and full blown addiction to those drugs is probably the most undesirable situation for gun possession.
I'm not too concerned with non violent felons owning guns, especially those making simple errors. I suspect that most of us have or will make some similar error every year if you file a tax return with any substance to it.