Alvin Bragg's Case Against Trump Presents a Tangle of Interacting Laws and Intent Puzzles
To convert a hush payment into 34 felonies, prosecutors are relying on a chain of assumptions with several weak links.

During four days of testimony in Donald Trump's trial, his estranged lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen, supplied crucial evidence linking the former and possibly future president to the crimes alleged by New York County District Attorney Alvin Bragg. Cohen said "the boss" instructed him to pay porn star Stormy Daniels $130,000 shortly before the 2016 presidential election to keep her from talking about her alleged 2006 sexual encounter with Trump. Cohen said Trump also approved a plan to reimburse Cohen in 2017 through a series of payments disguised as compensation for legal services. Cohen was the only witness who gave direct support to the latter claim, which underlies the allegation that Trump falsified business records—the heart of the case.
One question for the jurors is whether to believe Cohen, a convicted felon and admitted liar with a powerful grudge against Trump and a financial interest in agitating for his imprisonment via books and podcasts. Another question is exactly what sort of intent is required to convict Trump not only of falsifying business records but of doing so to conceal "another crime," which elevates what would otherwise be 34 misdemeanors into 34 felonies. Here things get confusing because of the interacting statutes on which the prosecution is relying.
As a misdemeanor, falsifying business records requires only an "intent to defraud." If the jury believes the prosecution has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump knew the checks to Cohen were falsely identified as payment for legal services, it will convict him of falsifying business records.
Trump personally signed nine of those 11 checks, which the stubs described as "retainer" payments. Although Trump designated Cohen as his personal lawyer after the election, Cohen testified that he never expected to be paid for that position, which he said he was glad to have mainly because of the business connections he thought it would facilitate. Cohen said he never had a retainer agreement with Trump.
Although Trump had to sign those checks because they were drawn on his personal account, his lawyers say, he was not aware of exactly how his bookkeepers characterized the payments. According to the defense team, Cohen presented invoices that the Trump Organization paid as a matter of course, and Trump was too busy with presidential duties to concern himself with the associated records.
To rebut that account, prosecutors presented testimony that Trump was a proud penny-pincher who never would have agreed to pay Cohen without knowing exactly what he was getting in return. The payments totaled $420,000. According to handwritten notes by Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, that included reimbursement for the hush payment, which he doubled to account for taxes, plus a bonus and a reimbursement for an unrelated expense. Prosecutors suggested it was implausible that Trump actually thought he was paying Cohen for his 2017 services as a personal lawyer, and Cohen testified that Trump signed off on Weisselberg's plan during a meeting at Trump Tower.
To prove that Trump is guilty of 34 felonies, however, the prosecution had to show that his "intent to defraud" included "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." Lead prosecutor Matthew Matthew Colangelo said the other crime was a violation of an obscure New York statute: Section 17-152 of the New York Election Law, which makes it a misdemeanor for "two or more persons" to "conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means."
Prosecutors say the "unlawful means" was Cohen's payment to Daniels: By fronting that money, he made an excessive campaign contribution, thereby violating the Federal Election Campaign Act. Cohen accepted that characterization, which hinges on the fuzzy distinction between personal and campaign expenditures, in a 2018 federal plea agreement that also resolved several other, unrelated charges against him. But Trump was never prosecuted for soliciting that "contribution," probably because it would have been hard to prove that he "knowingly and willfully" violated federal campaign finance regulations. If Trump thought the nondisclosure agreement with Daniels was perfectly legal, as his lawyers maintain, he did not have the intent required for a federal conviction.
Does that matter under Section 17-152? Since it appears this provision has never been enforced before, the answer is not clear. On its face, the statute requires only a conspiracy to promote an election "by unlawful means." It does not say the conspirators must recognize that the means are unlawful. But ordinarily under New York law, proving a criminal conspiracy requires proving "a specific intent to commit a crime." If Trump did not think Cohen's payment to Daniels was "unlawful," and it is plausible that he didn't, he did not have that "specific intent."
The uncertainty about Trump's understanding of federal campaign finance regulations also figures directly in the felony charges under the statute prohibiting falsification of business records. If Trump believed there was nothing illegal about paying off Daniels via Cohen, it is hard to see how he could have falsified business records with the intent to hide "another crime."
Prosecutors presented testimony from Cohen and other witnesses who said Trump's main motivation in silencing Daniels was neutralizing a threat to his election, which goes to the question of whether the payment qualified as a campaign expenditure. Cohen averred that Daniels' story, coming on the heels of the Access Hollywood tape in which Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women, would have been "catastrophic" to his campaign.
That seems doubtful in retrospect. Trump won the election despite the Access Hollywood tape and despite his well-known history of adultery, to which the alleged Daniels encounter merely would have added another chapter. And right now he seems poised to defeat Biden again, even though the Daniels story is common knowledge and even though a jury found him civilly liable for sexually assaulting and defaming E. Jean Carroll. But when it comes to proving that Trump should have recognized that the hush payment was an illegal campaign contribution, what matters is whether he was worried about the potential electoral impact of Daniels' account, as opposed to the embarrassment it would cause or the damage it would do to his reputation, brand, and business.
When Cohen asked Trump how his wife would respond to the Daniels story, Cohen testified, Trump did not seem concerned. "Don't worry, he goes," Cohen said. "He goes: 'How long do you think I will be on the market for? Not long.'" In other words, Cohen said, "He wasn't thinking about Melania. This was all about the campaign." In fact, Cohen testified, Trump initially hoped to never pay Daniels. If he could stall her until after the election, Cohen said, "it wouldn't matter" to Trump.
If so, you might wonder, why would Trump be so keen to keep the story under wraps even after the election? The prosecution says he was trying to hide the fact that he and Cohen had violated Section 17-152 by violating the Federal Election Campaign Act. That theory hinges on several doubtful premises.
As New York Times columnist David French notes, "the state election law that the prosecution cites may well be pre-empted by federal law and therefore be inapplicable to the case." Even if the state law does apply, the prosecution's theory assumes not only that Trump recognized Cohen's payment to Daniels as an illegal campaign contribution but also that he knew it was a violation of Section 17-152—a provision so obscure that experts on New York election law say they have never seen a criminal case based on it.
It seems quite unlikely that Trump knew anything about that law, let alone that he anticipated how it might be construed by New York prosecutors. And if he did not know he could be accused of violating Section 17-152, how could he have falsified business records with the intent of covering up that alleged crime?
Juan Merchan, the judge presiding over Trump's trial, presumably will clarify these issues when he instructs the jurors prior to their deliberations, which are expected to begin next week. But the case presents such a tangle of interacting laws and mens rea puzzles that Trump will have ample grounds for appeal if he is convicted.
Those issues help explain why Bragg's predecessor, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., decided, after long consideration, that state charges based on the Daniels payment were too iffy to pursue. Mark Pomerantz, a former prosecutor in Vance's office who worked on the Trump investigation, concluded that "such a case was too risky under New York law." In a 2023 book, Pomerantz noted that "no appellate court in New York had ever upheld (or rejected) this interpretation of the law."
Pomerantz, who was so keen to build a criminal case against Trump that he agreed to work on the investigation for free, is by no means the only Trump critic who is skeptical of Bragg's case. "Numerous legal analysts, including people who are no friends of Trump, have expressed grave reservations about the case," French notes, "in large part because of the difficulty of linking the falsified records to an additional, separate crime."
While French condemns Trump's "morally repugnant" conduct, he emphasizes that "immorality alone doesn't make him a criminal." And he worries about the consequences of a conviction that is overturned on appeal. "Imagine a scenario in which Trump is convicted at the trial, Biden condemns him as a felon and the Biden campaign runs ads mocking him as a convict," he writes. "If Biden wins a narrow victory but then an appeals court tosses out the conviction, this case could well undermine faith in our democracy and the rule of law."
The problem, of course, goes beyond public perceptions. If Bragg is prosecuting Trump in a desperate, last-ditch attempt to prevent him from reoccupying the White House—and that is certainly how it looks—he is abusing his powers and perverting the law. The case seems to exemplify the very sort of misconduct that Trump's opponents fear he will commit if he wins the election.
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Know who else said "Give me the man and I will give you the case against him"?
Whichever anti trump prosecutor you and Jeff are defending at the moment?
Actually, it was a communist that originated the phrase.
Every DA going after someone for pissing off the powerful and connected?
Jack Smith?
Sarc thinks he is an honorable hero.
Every lawyer to ever work in a federal prosecutor's office?
Supposedly the lawyers from the A-USA office for the Southern District of NY (probably many other offices as well) play a game when they're out for drinks after work where someone will name a random historical figure and the rest will come up with charges that they think they could get that person indicted on.
Preet Bharara?
Well played sir.
Most prosecutors never go up against a defendant with resources.
Normally you just pile on the charges and then plea bargain.
Someone you would support over Trump, and bizarrely offer cover against any conservative/libertarian dissenters?
Stalin
Cohen must be glad he isn't a Clinton lawyer under the same circumstances...a glowie would have tidied that loose end years ago.
Well he was suicidal. Typically lawyers get that done by hanging themselves while shooting themselves in the back of the head with a shotgun.
And then hiding the gun afterwards.
The biggest thing I read about the discussion on the instructions to the Jury were the following.
Bragg doesn’t have to prove Trump violated any crime besides the charges.
Jurors will be able to pick and choose which of the 4 unproven theories Bragg mentioned and they don’t have to agree on a single one he tried to violate. Members can declare guilty if they think he broke any even of jurors disagree on which one.
Instructions will not include any discussions on how election laws are implemented to decide between personal vs campaign costs. It is again up to the jury in complete disregard to precedence.
Merchan will tell the Jury Trump didn’t have to scheme or direct anyone to make the false entries to be guilty.
It is a fucking clown show.
It could be worse, it could be a clown fucking show. 🙂
I'm sure those channels exist on porn sites.
Chicks love violent clown porn.
Dark Brothers. New Wave Hookers 2. Mid 90s classic.
Rule 34.
It's hard not to wonder if the judge in the case might somehow be deliberately setting up the grounds for any conviction to be overturned on appeal.
Now that the NY State appeals court consists of nine black women who apparently might be ideologically to the left of most of the cast of "The View", it'll be interesting to see if the next higher court above that might rule that there was literally no chance of trump's appeal being heard in an impartial manner with any sort of focus on the laws involved.
Prosecutors suggested it was implausible that Trump actually thought he was paying Cohen for his 2017 services as a personal lawyer, and Cohen testified that Trump signed off on Weisselberg's plan during a meeting at Trump Tower.
Legal accounts include salary and expenses Jacob...
"Expenses" are not the cost of the property you ask your lawyer to buy for you. But you do you, Jesse.
Brains are what some of us have, but you do you, NOS.
Political persecution. Banana Republic cosplay.
monkey shines to be sure
If Bragg is prosecuting Trump in a desperate, last-ditch attempt to prevent him from reoccupying the White House—and that is certainly how it looks—he is abusing his powers and perverting the law.
That is most certainly the case. Problem is that you didn’t condemn it at the right time for the right reasons. You were supposed to condemn this the moment the charges were filed and accuse the prosecutor of Trump Derangement Syndrome. The fact that you didn’t do that (even if you did it wouldn't matter because the narrative says you didn't) means that no matter what you say, you support this prosecution. So stop lying and applaud the prosecutor already.
The right time to condemn it was when the prosecution indicted him. No facts or evidence has changed.
Not only did you not condemn it, you initially supported it until the point even the NYT couldn't.
You do in fact have TDS.
The ultimate irony of this post is you still won't admit the democrats are using the state in any manner they can to go after a political opponent. You have supported it every step of the way. Or that the state did the same for J6 prisoners who you applaud arresting and defended the 20 year threats of jail even for non violent protestors. Or how you defended state induced censorship. Or you defend the government not actual auditing elections.
This is more of you being one of the least libertarian people here until the day that the bullshit you defended is no longer tenable to keep your mask on.
You have no principles.
He obviously has principles, they're just more aligned with fascists or antifa than libertarian thought.
Poor, pour sarc.
Poor sarc.
Donnie says he has total immunity. Like Putin and Lil' Kim - his two role models.
Cite?
The thing is--this prosecution is going to push SCOTUS to expand his immunity.
These maniacs are too blind to see that.
Not only that, but reinforce qualified immunity jurisprudence.
It takes a lot to get the Supreme Court to do anything, but the democrats are up to the challenge.
Too bad he can't get a plea deal on something minor which includes blanket immunity for all future crimes, like Hunters lawyers thought he was getting (and they might have got it if it weren't for that meddling Judge...)
"Access Hollywood tape in which Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women,"
And again. Sullum cannot bring himself to write an article involving Trump without telling at least one bald faced lie. Trump said women "let you grab their pussy". Touching a woman's pussy with her consent, something that Trump clearly stated, is not assault. If it were every hetero male and lesbian would be a criminal.
He also had to bring up the Carroll case as being against Trump when the reality it is a further indictment if lawfare used against him.
Yes. And that case was a joke, an example of the utter insanity of our civil legal system. There was literally zero evidence of an assault on Ms. Carroll but the jury decided in her favor anyway. Completely insane. And then they gave her even more money when Trump protested his innocence. Beyond insane.
This might come as some surprise to you; but testimony is a form of evidence. If a person testifies that the defendant "inserted his fingers in her vagina without her consent" that is evidence of sexual battery.
You can substitute your estimation of the witnesses credibility for the juries but it won't change the outcome. The jury heard the evidence, the defense case, and found him liable.
It may come as a surprise to you, but without physical evidence such testimony amounts to hearsay without corroboration.
It will come as a surprise to you, but we all understand you to be a TDS-addled pile of shit.
It's not even clear that labeling the payments to Cohen as "legal expenses" is a "falsification."
Or that any of these payments are "business records".
Another good point
Exactly. What was the alternative? "Hush money/Blackmail payment to porn star mistress?"
"Reimbursement" apparently not being a known word within Trump Towers. Perhaps they'd never reimbursed anyone for anything before?
“Sense” apparently unknown to ONS.
Payments for an ongoing retainer agreement. A retainer agreement that Cohen testified didn't exist. Unless I missed where the defense admitted the retainer agreement into evidence? That would have been very helpful evidence for the defendant.
Oh wait. Of course they didn't. What a huge oversight! Do you even know what "false" means? Does Trump dick riding make one forget how the English language works?
Meanwhile. Looks like Hunter's sugar daddy might be a CIA asset.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/cia-prevented-hunters-hollywood-tax-sugar-daddy-becoming-federal-witness-whistleblower
"DOJ officials restricted what investigative steps the investigators could pursue, tipped off Hunter Biden’s attorneys about investigative steps, and even prevented investigators from conducting witness interviews. The whistleblowers’ testimony about the preferential treatment provided to Hunter Biden has been corroborated by testimony from other witnesses and documents the Committees have received."
And now we know who that witness is...
In a Wednesday statement, the House Ways and Means Committee wrote that whistleblower documents indicate "In 2021, Assistant U.S. District Attorney Leslie Wolf told investigators they could not pursue Hollywood lawyer Kevin Morris as a witness based on information she received from the CIA. Investigators were never provided the same information that AUSA Wolf received."
"From whistleblower-provided evidence, we know Hunter Biden and his business associates made millions from selling access to Joe Biden and the quote ‘brand’ that is Joe Biden around the world. We know President Biden’s denials of any knowledge or involvement are not true," reads the letter. "We know the Department of Justice tried to undermine, stonewall, and block the investigation into the Biden family, including President Biden."
From IRS SSA Shapley's newly released affidavit:
The CIA "summoned" prosecutors to Langley, VA for a classified briefing on Hunter Biden's sugar brother/balcony bong lawyer.
After that, it was hands off w/o telling investigators why.
https://twitter.com/JsnFostr/status/1793325118111764984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1793330365664210992%7Ctwgr%5Ea81a391dd51454755b694731f3e173d7c4927a11%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fmarkets%2Fcia-prevented-hunters-hollywood-tax-sugar-daddy-becoming-federal-witness-whistleblower
I'm sure a non insignificant segment of Hollywood is glowies.
It’s not what you know, it’s who you know.
easier piece:
Miscarriage. Of. Justice.
I do appreciate the seriousness with which the VC bloggers have finally given to this case, but I think the less I know about the secret-decoder-ring-4D-chess-New-York-dusty-lawbook aspects of this case, the better.
It hurts me to watch our courts get mangled by such raw partisanship.
All for Horse Face.
This is so damned banana republic, and of course it’s in New York.
Can’t we all just secede already? Might also do a lot to remove us from bankrolling the whole freaking world and every war therein.
Countries that aren't giving and imposing are taking and being imposed upon.
Some countries I suppose do both.
I don't see why people are so pissed off to be the top dog in the USA, China, Russia, Germany weight class.
But for the record I agree with secession.
File this under no shit.
>>Michael Cohen, supplied crucial evidence
then I decided to read the piece and found this gem buried in the second line …
edit: are you supposed to be the Legal Guy around here?
Just because the defense proved he lied about the crucial evidence on cross doesn't mean the evidence wasn't crucial.
Sullum just can’t help it. His TDS comes to the fore regardless.
His TDS is so incredibly great that even this tepid condemnation of the prosecution speaks volumes to how far NY State has gone off the rails.
It doesn't matter how the judge instructs the jury because the jury will be sleeping through the instructions. They couldn't care less about the laws, mens rea, who Trump might have "defrauded" in the first place or whether Cohen is a liar and convicted felon. They will unanimously vote to convict Trump because they already knew he was guilty of something when they were chosen for the jury. Trump doesn't care because he knows that at some level of the appeals process he will encounter an honest justice (or a justice biased in his favor) and then it will all go away again after the election.
My money is on a hung jury.
Oh my…
Doubtful, I'm expecting a conviction. The judge is setting up jury instructions so there's no clear explanation of the requisite mens rea, nor what the requirements are for the underlying act being illegal. And it's so many layers of issues-if the jury believes the NDA was illegal-which is possible, since everyone has described it as "hush money," which sounds illegal-then they're going to convict him because of something that was perfectly legal to do. Or they can just have in their heads that Trump was probably doing something wrong and choose to convict on that.
The judge isn't going to issue clarifying jury instructions on this, he's going to let the vagueness of the law stand as it is and let the jury choose their own adventure in arriving at guilt. Plus there's at least one lawyer on the panel who is almost certainly suffering from TDS because he's a lawyer in New York, and he'll argue from authority into browbeating the other jurors to accepting that Trump is a criminal.
My guess is they deliberate less than 4 hours and come back with guilt. I think the judge will try to go extremely light on sentencing to provide the appearance of fairness when he's been ridiculous with rulings throughout this proceeding.
I hope they convict him, then the real fun can begin.
AOC admitted out loud today this trial is to keep Trump from campaigning.
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1793267044315783672
Even if the appeals doesn't force him to go to jail while waiting appeal, he won't be able to leave the state.
I'd say AOC is as dumb as a box of rocks, but even a box of rocks knows enough not to spill the beans and say the unsaid.
They know. They just don't care. Trump is such a danger that anything is justified if it stops him. It's why they're hoping someone goes full Lee Harvey Oswald on him.
I think this was the thinking behind the post-2020 Election Time Magazine piece about the election "fortification" efforts. The thinking being that since preventing Trump from winning was an obvious good thing, then these "fortification" efforts were therefore a good thing.
I thought that was the FBI's job?
Yet another thing the FBI failed at.
A good analysis. It's a show trial with a likely predetermined outcome.
At this point, I have no hope with the judge or prosecutors. However, Juries don't like being lied to. I hope for their are at least some of them that say "this is a complete mess. I can't put my name to it".
The only way the deliberations last four hours is if they get the case early in the day and the jurors want one more free lunch.
An acquittal would be the worst possible outcome. Trump would have to admit that the justice system isn't actually totally corrupt, Manhattan juries weren't biased, and that he got a fair trial...
An acquittal isn't happening.
But in a hypothetical world where it did happen...one court case being decided correctly after an abortion of justice by the prosecutors and judge doesn't mean every court case is on the up and up.
Regardless, I'd expect you to form your opinion in whatever way that goes against Trump, as you don't seem to have principles, other than, what's good for the dems is good, and what's good for Trump/MAGA is bad. You actually already did it with your comment above: This one case ending in acquittal proves there is no lawfare or abuse of the judicial system against Trump, so all the other cases are just.
I was obviously sarcastically forecasting the horror which would await Trump should he be acquitted. You didn't quite follow.
That's because, given your idiocy, we're never quite sure if you are attempting sarcasm, or posting your usual drivel.
It's possible to lose a rigged game. Either it was poorly rigged or you were just that much worse.
If he did get acquitted, despite the transparently corrupt nature, it will be heralded as a triumph of truth over corruption.
If he gets convicted, it will be decried as corruption upon corruption.
If the jury is hung, it will be considered a victory, since even tying in a game rigged this heavily against you is impressive.
Isn't negotiating and executing a NDA contract on behalf of a client a legitimate legal service?
Only in a politically motivated prosecution could recording payments to a lawyer for doing the work of a lawyer as "payment for legal services" be considered some kind of fraudulent conspiracy.
It also seems like it should be relevant context that the people who claim that outbidding a tabloid for the "story rights" to what was, by every claim, a fully consensual encounter between two mentally competent adults is somehow criminal "election interference" also thought that publication of Sid Blumenthal's emails regarding the rigging of the 2016 Dem Primary should have been suppressed not because the content of the messages was untrue but because they happened to be damaging to the candidate they preferred.
The people who think that the public was somehow deprived of some kind of fundamental right to hear about movie night with Stormy and Don also see nothing at all inappropriate about the FBI encouraging every major social media platform to prevent any spread of the reports about the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop using a false inference that those stories were "foreign misinformation". Based on the sample of those people who I know personally, at least half of them still believe that Putin actually has a videotape of trump being pissed on by Russian Prostitutes despite the creator of that claim (a PR operative who worked for the HRC campaign at the time and fed most of the salacious claims to the Russian source used by Christopher Steele). Most of them still believe (as does Joe Biden, apparently) that trump's use of the term "fine people" in an interview with CNN was meant to refer to neo-nazis despite the next sentence in that interview in which it was made explicitly clear to not be the case.
All that said, it's still my opinion that trump is far too narcissistic to be fit for any elected office, or to be a nominee to run for such an office. I've never voted for the man in the past and don't intend to in the future, but that doesn't make any part of Albert Bragg's prosecutorial premise true or legally legitimate regardless of the fact that it'll likely lead to a conviction (and immediate appeal).
“Isn’t negotiating and executing a NDA contract on behalf of a client a legitimate legal service?”
Yes, but you see, paying off a porn star was totes about trying to keep people from learning he was a massive cad and adulterer right before the election. Just ignore the previous 40 years the man had been in the public eye.
People have asked me to draft and/or review NDAs a lot more often than I'd have liked. Not once has anyone suggested that I then pay someone else out of my own pocket in connection with one!
If the "fraudulent" billing/payments to Cohen were planned to conceal the fact that the money was to be used as payment on the NDA, then it was never expected for Cohen to actually pay the amount of the NDA out of his pocket either; he merely fronted the payment as a short-term personal loan to trump.
If you had a very wealthy client whose business made for a lot of billables, or was possibly your sole client at that time, would you refuse to make a similar loan to that client? It seems like with the amount of work that Cohen was doing for trump at that time, he'd possibly even have taken a "retainer" payment up front large enough that some or all of that "loan" could be made out of that sum without Cohen actually having to go "out of pocket" himself even for a short time (this seems like something the defense would have gone into on cross if it were the case, though).
Let's say that hypothetically, a client of yours has some relatively minor issue which would, for some reason require you to "front" $5-10k to close a negotiation with a couterparty who's demanding expedience, and you know without question that the client will quickly make you whole on that "line of credit" or possibly even pay with interest. Do you do it? What if you happened to also be operating at a lower ethical level (as is almost everyone connected to the trump/Daniels case, it would appear) and had already stolen at least enough from the client in question to cover the "loan", still knowing with full confidence that it will be paid back?
As far as the "campaign finance violation" is concerned, the wording of those laws don't apparently make much distinction between loans and donations if they're improperly recorded. However, my understanding is that most violations of the type which Cohen was leveraged into making a deal on are punished with a fine, and the few which go to trial have generally ended with acquittal.
Also, the laws involved are apparently left enough to interpretation by prosecutors that if the "hush money" payment had actually been paid out of "campaign" funds, it would have exposed trump and Cohen to prosecution for using campaign money to pay for a "personal" legal matter based on the premise that the intention was only to avoid personal embarrassment; with the ways that such laws can be leveraged by a motivated prosecutor, it would seem like the only thing which prevented Bill Clinton from catching a charge for making a settlement with Paula Jones which included a NDA in 1992 is that no A-USA ever chose to take up the matter once Clinton left office (or possibly the statute of limitation had expired by then?).
What would the real difference be, in terms of accounting on either side of the transaction if Cohen advanced the $130k for the sake of expedience and then billed it to trump as "expenses" or some other non-labor itemization on the bill to his client?
Did trump, or his company deduct the full cost of the payments made to the lawyer on either corporate or personal income tax filings? Are legal services paid for by a privately held company even considered to be deductable on corporate tax filings in NY state/city? Bragg doesn't seem to have ever made a claim that anyone was harmed by the manner in which trump and Cohen did their bookkeeping, and since the claim that it was somehow meant to "cover up" an activity which only became a "crime" after the fact because of a Federal Prosecutor (looking for scalps, apparently) chose to leverage a novel interpretation of a vague statute into a charge which could be used to compel Cohen into a plea deal.
I'm only a mere "rocket scientist", and not trained in the intricacies of the law, but it seems to me that if the whole basis of the charges being brought at the "felony" level is that the intention was to "cover up another crime", but the jury has been instructed to not consider trump to have been involved in any of the campaign finance "crime" to which Cohen pled guilty, then doesn't that nullify the entire premise of the case? Can trump really even be charged (let alone convicted) for intent to "cover up" a crime he's not alleged to have had any knowledge of or involvement with?
Would it even be possible to prove "intent" which would necessarily be predicated on knowledge that the accused is not alleged to have had? In other words, if trump never even knew that a crime had been committed, then how could he possibly be proven to have intended to conceal it?
You sure have a lot of questions! However, I'm only commenting about the "payment for legal services" argument you advanced above.
FWIW, no one has ever asked me to "front the payment as a short-term personal loan", either! I think I'd instead look for a different client without cashflow or criminal problems...
Moreover, the "retainer" claim falls apart when you realize that there was no retainer agreement--and Trump never paid Cohen a "retainer" in the classical sense (which is a lump sum paid in advance, not afterwards).
One can only speculate as to what was "so important" that it had to be done this way. Bragg has a theory; I'm not sure I buy it.
This is not my favorite Trump criminal case, for many reasons. It's convoluted and the jury will either not understand it or will throw up their hands and vote how they feel.
Who was ever intended to be defrauded by these records? Who was expected to look at them? That's what's been eating at me the whole time this has been an issue. If they're not official filings that had to be submitted for some benefit or requirement, what difference does it make what the payments are called?
If “structuring” (effectively, modifying one’s behavior to comply with the law) can be a crime, then so can falsely characterising an indirect payment for the purchase of goods as compensation for legal services in order to conceal the nature of the payment.
Of course, the payment at issue has to be a crime.
So, by the legal theory the Biden Adminstration is applying against Oklahoma for applying state penalties for violations of federal law (see next article), Bragg's legal theory in this case is unconstitutional for applying state penalties to a violation of federal law.
"the Access Hollywood tape in which Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women"
Which didn't happen. What he said was that "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.". He doesn't say he grabs them by the pussy, he says if you're a star you can. And he's right. That doesn't mean he ever has and nobody actually claimed he did that to them. Try to get basic facts right.
Why would a TDS-addled slimy pile of shit like Sullum care about facts?
"He doesn’t say he grabs them by the pussy, he says if you’re a star you can. And he’s right. That doesn’t mean he ever has and nobody actually claimed he did that to them. Try to get basic facts right."
Are you actually this unaware of the facts of the E. Jean Carroll case?
"In her opening statement on Tuesday, one of Carroll’s attorneys, Shawn Crowley, wasted no time bringing it up. After telling the jury that they could expect to view the recording during the trial, Crowley said, of Trump’s prior admission that he grabbed women’s genitals, “This is not locker room talk—it’s exactly what he did to Ms. Carroll and other women.”"
"Nobody actually claims he did that to them" Hmmm... i am trying to think of at least one person who said he did in fact do that to her. Having a hard time coming up with her name. Will you give me 96million guesses?
It seems perfectly reasonable to leave it up to the lawyer whether or not the act in question of disbursing payments for a current employee to keep quiet when not performing sexual favors.
It's not like Trump graduated from the bar or anything, and it's not like any lawyer who does would not have legal recourse to sue for being exploited for criminal purposes.
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”
Such a great book.
But why not just cut a check from the Trump organization instead of going through a cut-out and then grossing him up? It's not like Melania is going through the Trump Org's books and would have spotted the payment. So that there is a pretty good indicator of intent.
My question is why the AMI catch and kill is not considered a campaign finance violation? They provided quite a service to the Trump campaign by paying McDougal and generally blocking bad press and making hit pieces against is opponents. With Cohen, because he was reimbursed, in the end it was Trump's money anyway.
But seriously, the facts lead to the conclusion that Trump was operating intentionally to cook the books. With hindsight we now know that even his religious backers don't care about his affairs, but at the time that was a big unknown. He did lose the popular vote by quite a bit and so it was something for Trump to worry about. We don't get to use hindsight to declare his innocense. Trump has bragged about knowing campaign finance laws very well. John Edwards had been in the news (2012) for much the same thing and the prosecution showed that Trump was big into the details of his organization. You really have to bend over backwards to concoct a story where Trump was doing nothing wrong.
But seriously, the facts lead to the conclusion that:
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Alvin Bragg's Case Against Trump Presents a Tangle of Interacting Laws and Intent Puzzles
Actually, it CLAIMS a crime based on a tangle of absurd "interpretations" of laws that don't interact.