AI's Cozy Crony Capitalism
Regulating artificial intelligence presents a "Baptists and bootleggers" problem.


In May 2023, OpenAI founder Sam Altman testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee about ChatGPT. Altman demonstrated how his company's tool could massively reduce the cost of retrieving, processing, conveying, and perhaps even modifying the collective knowledge of mankind as stored in computer memories worldwide. A user with no special equipment or access can request a research report, story, poem, or visual presentation and receive in a matter of seconds a written response.
Because of ChatGPT's seemingly vast powers, Altman called for government regulation to "mitigate the risks of increasingly powerful AI systems" and recommended that U.S. or global leaders form an agency that would license AI systems and have the authority to "take that license away and ensure compliance with safety standards." Major AI players around the world quickly roared approval of Altman's "I want to be regulated" clarion call.
Welcome to the brave new world of AI and cozy crony capitalism, where industry players, interest groups, and government agents meet continuously to monitor and manage investor-owned firms.
Bootleggers and Baptists Have a 'Printing Press Moment'
ChatGPT has about 100 million weekly users worldwide, according to Altman. Some claim it had the most successful launch of a consumer product in history, and Altman anticipates far more future users. He's now seeking U.S. government approval to raise billions from United States, Middle East, and Asian investors to build a massive AI-chip manufacturing facility.
In his testimony, Altman referred to Johannes Gutenberg's printing press, which enabled the Enlightenment, revolutionized communication, and—following the dictum "knowledge is power"—destabilized political and religious regimes worldwide. Altman suggested that, once again, the world faces a "printing press moment": another time of profound change that could bring untold benefits as well as unimaginable disturbances to human well-being. A related letter signed by Altman, other AI industry executives, and scores of other leaders in the field, underlined their profound concern and said: "Mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside other societal-scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war."
Altman's call for regulation also has a parallel in the early history of printing. Something similar to the licensing control suggested by Altman was used by Queen Elizabeth I in 16th century England. She assigned transferable printing rights to a particular printing guild member in a frustrated effort to regulate and censor printing.
Altman's moral appeal rests on the notion of preserving a nation of people or their way of life. In that way, it satisfies the "Baptist" component of the bootleggers and Baptists theory of regulation, which I developed decades ago and which explains why calls to "regulate me" may be seen as just about businesses earning extra profits.
An especially durable form of government regulation takes hold when there are at least two interest groups supporting it, but for decidedly different reasons. One supports the pending regulation for widely held moral reasons (like old-school Baptists who want to bar legal Sunday liquor sales). The other is in it for the money (like the bootleggers who see opportunity in a day without any legal competition).
Altman's "Baptist" altar call may well be altruistic—who can know?—but it shows his hand as a potential bootlegger, too. After all, a government-sheltered AI market could provide a first-mover advantage as his entity helps to determine the appropriate standards that will be applied to everyone else. It could yield a newer, cozier crony capitalism that has not previously existed in quite the same form.
Apparently, some other potential bootleggers heard the altar call too and liked the idea of being in a cozy cartel. Soon, Microsoft insisted that thoroughgoing government regulation of AI would be necessary. In another Baptist-like appeal, Microsoft President Brad Smith said:"A licensing regime is fundamentally about ensuring a certain baseline of safety, of capability. We have to prove that we can drive before we get a license. If we drive recklessly, we can lose it. You can apply those same concepts, especially to AI uses that will implicate safety."
Google felt the call as well and provided a statement recommending AI regulation on a global and cross-agency basis. Google CEO Sundar Pichai emphasized, "AI is too important not to regulate and too important not to regulate well." Another February 2024 policy statement from Google contains a litany of plans to cooperate with competitors and government agencies to advance a safe and effective generative AI environment.
How AI Will Regulate AI
In a December 2023 report on U.S. government agency activity for FY 2022, the Government Accountability Office indicated that 20 of the 23 agencies surveyed reported some 1,200 AI activities, including everything from analyzing data from cameras and radar to preparing for planetary explorations.
Bootlegger and Baptist–inspired regulatory episodes in the past typically involved in-depth studies and hearings and ended up with lasting rules. That was the case through most of the 20th century, when the Interstate Commerce Commission regulated prices, entry, and service in specific industries, and in the 1970s, when the Environmental Protection Agency was equipped with command-and-control regulations in an alleged attempt to correct market failures.
Sometimes it took years to develop regulations to address a particular environmental problem. By the time the final rules were announced and frozen in time, the situation to be resolved may have changed fundamentally.
Cheap information enabled by generative AI changes all this. By using AI, the generative AI regulatory process—pending at the level of California, the federal government, and other governments worldwide—so far favors ongoing, never-ending governance processes. These will focus on major generative AI producers but involve collaboration among industry leaders, consumer and citizen groups, scientists, and government officials all engaged in a newly blossomed cozy cronyism.Under the European Union's AI Act, an AI Office will preside over processes that continually steer and affect generative AI outcomes.
If more traditional command-and-control or public utility regulation were used, which raises its own challenges, AI producers would be allowed to operate within a set of regulatory guardrails while responding to market incentives and opportunities. They would not be required to engage in cooperative engagement with regulators, their own competitors, and other supposed stakeholders in this larger enterprise. In this AI world, bootleggers and Baptists now sit together in the open.
Specifically, this burgeoning approach to AI regulation requires the implementation of "sandboxes," where regulated parties join with regulators and advisers in exploring new algorithms and other AI products. While sandboxes have some beneficial things to offer industries in new or uncertain regulatory environments, members of the unusually collaborative AI industry are poised to learn what competitors are developing as government referees look on.
The risk, should this environment persist, is that radically new products and approaches in the arena never get a chance to be developed and benefit consumers. The incentives to discover new AI products and profit from them will be blunted by cartel-like behavior in a new bootleggers and Baptists world. Countries and firms that refuse to play by these rules would likely become the only fountainhead for major new AI developments.
The End of the AI Wild West
No matter what form of regulation holds sway, generative AI is out of the box and will not go away. Already, computer capacity requirements for processing the software are falling, and already, generative AI's applications to new information challenges are exploding. At the same time, government agents' ability to regulate is improving and the payoff to the regulated for working hand-in-hand with government and organized interest groups is growing.
Generative AI's Wild West days may be drawing to a close. This is when invention, expansion, and growth can occur unconstrained by regulation while within the bounds of local courts, judges, property rights, and common law. Novel developments will still occur, but at a slower pace. The generative AI printing press moment may expand to become an era. But just as the Gutenberg invention led initially to the regulation and even outlawing of the printing press across many major countries, new information technologies emerged anyway and effective regulation of real knowledge became impossible.
A renaissance was set in motion despite official attempts to stymie the technology. Freer presses emerged, and eventually the telegraph, telephones, typewriters, mimeograph, Xerox, fax, and the internet itself. Knowledge flows cannot be stopped. We moderns may learn again that the human spirit cannot be forever bottled up, and over the long run market competition will be allowed, if not encouraged, to move mankind closer to a more prosperous era.
America's Founders were enlightened and well aware of Europe's troublesome efforts to regulate Gutenberg's printing press. They insisted on freedom of speech and a free press. We may eventually see similar wisdom applied to generative AI control—but don't hold your breath.
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The elite coerce the corrupt, governments and media in a war against the rest of us.
AI represents a significant change to human communication at what is already a time of unprecedented change, the internet.
While the benefits are touted, the risks of corruption by the many bad actors around us go largely unnoticed and played down as conspiracies to be ridiculed when they are. This is not by accident.
Just as the founders recognized that inalienable rights, those which can’t be taken away or sold, are necessary for the security of a free state, they didn’t foresee the internet.
Now, more than ever, with AI imminent we need to update the constitution to recognize that the internet is a public place where all our inalienable rights apply. Like free speech and privacy.
If we don’t update the constitution, AI will be used against us as we, the victims of it, can’t even imagine, and like you can bet the corrupt already have.
Fuck off, liar.
I love that Herr Misek acts like the government (especially the politicians) aren’t part of the elite.
SkyNet and RoboCop would make better company than you...especially after you lose your protected, cozy Übersturmführer gig and the machines get re-programmed with The Libertarian NAP/NIFF Laws of Robotics.
"You're Fired!"
https://youtu.be/Itfru6blTYc?si=fk0YO-TOwK5jzX4e
Fuck Off, Nazi!
We already don’t know what we don’t know on the internet.
Amid censorship, internet searches yield only the approved results.
AI will be used to bring the coercion of censorship to unimaginable levels.
Unless we update the constitution to prevent it.
Humanity may be at “peak silicon” and face a collapse not dissimilar to that of the early bronze age.
AI hadn’t help Chumby select, prepare for, or plant this year’s potato crop nor will it aid in its cultivation and ultimate harvesting. AI may have guided the US Postal Service in shipping the certified seed potatoes from a grower-supplier just a few hours drive away. Some years ago, that shipping would take a day or possibly two. Presently, it now takes over a week. Thank you AI. This spud’s for you!
They want to mash together regulations in a half baked attempt to fry to competition.
That's just Dixie-fried stupidity coming at us.
Well that was the fault of Cliff the Mailman trying to out-play the Chat GPT playah while drinking with Norm and Frazier at Cheers .
AI hadn’t help Chumby select, prepare for, or plant this year’s potato crop nor will it aid in its cultivation and ultimate harvesting.
Aye, there is no eye in "AI potato cultivation".
Our Congress:
Jasmine Crockett’s ‘Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body’ Roast Inspires Songs Mocking MTG
The Texas Congresswoman's comments about the Georgia Republican are apparently the gifts that keep on giving.
While this week’s personal attacks between Congresswomen Jasmine Crockett and Marjorie Taylor Greene further exposed the ugly side of partisan politics, the dispute that began with the suspected white supremacist Republican from Georgia mocking a Black woman’s physical appearance has, at least, produced one real positive: It’s inspired a slew of singers to craft songs on social media that have been named after Crockett’s now-infamous alliterative description of Greene.
https://newsone.com/5240287/bleach-blonde-bad-built-butch-body-songs/
Sounds like a Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body Done Somebody Wrong Song to me!!! (Smoke some sexy dope ass well, and then shit becums a Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body Done Somebody Wrong Sing-Along Dong-and-Bong Song! In Hong Kong?)
"the dispute that began with the suspected white supremacist Republican"
"Suspected"
What sort of weaselly shit is that. Who declared her a 'suspect'? The SPLC? The DNC? Open Society?
Fuck you cranks are something else.
Meanwhile your ranks are filled with cretins calling black SCJs and politicians, 'Uncle Toms', 'Shine boys', and 'Lawn Jockeys'.
You know what is not suspected? The time Pluggo posted a link to child pornography here. That actually occurred. And Reason allows him to continue to post content in the comments. They did block the offending account. Maybe authorities should have just taken away the vehicle from the guy that plowed into that Christmas parade and allowed him to go free.
A pedophile and a Klansman. Buttplug is determined to check all the boxes.
Totes not a Democrat though. Just ask him.
Sounds like government-approved (and owned) AI will be the next generation of Experts that we all must obey. I bet one of our political parties will be much more inclined to embrace these new central planners.
I suspect both parties will jump in this one. Republicans to prevent AI pornography and Demicrats to.. um... prevent... er..
What exactly will the Democrats want to keep from happening here? All an "AI" does is take existing material and mix it up into something that seems new but is just a mic of old stuff.
Maybe to protect Unions I guess.
To prevent wrong think, obviously.
What is wrong think? Anything the Party says it is.
Pretty stupid (or stupidly feeble lying).
But to egg you on, we might expect Democrats to embrace the entire "let's all submit to the new 5 year plans created by official government sanctioned AI" thing. Anything besides letting people run their own lives, right?
They are already implementing it for social media censorship and discovery of misinformation posts.
Why do you always ignore what Dems are doing and attack what Republicans might do?
AI's Cozy Crony Capitalism
Regulating artificial intelligence presents a "Baptists and bootleggers" problem.
*Assumes Waylon Jennings voice and shows jeans and guitar on the smartphone cam.*
"Welp, looks like Bo and Luke Duke 2.0 have met their match with Boss Hogg 2.0 and his minions Roscoe 2.0 and Enos 2.0! Will the General Lee's EV batteries make it???..."
🙂
😉
Back from the “Don’t Forget The Fake Cheese!”™ commercial:
“*Whew!* The Duke Boys Rebooted escaped just in time!"
“Seems like Daisy Duke 2.0 sent some deepfakes of her *Ahem!* ‘In-Box’ to Roscoe 2.0 and Enos 2.0’s real In-Boxes!”
And speaking of, this distracted them long enough for Crazy Cooter 2.0 to drive up with his 50-ton Peterbilt Jumper Box, charging up The General Lee 2.0 just long enough to get outta Hazzard County’s 15-Minute County Seat!”
“And as for Boss Hogg 2.0? Well, Uncle Jesse 2.0’s laptop caused a rolling blackout that melted Boss Hogg’s frozen raw liver and all Boss Hogg had to eat was Kolonel Klink Klaus’ Cricket Croquettes! ‘Sure hope Ol’ Boss is happy!”
“Ya’ll come back now, ye heah?”
🙂
😉
The only knowledge it can retrieve is that which it has access to, not all "computer memories worldwide", and who controls that access if government has its way? But then, there's always hallucination.
Remembering the Covid fascism and then came upon this little gem.
Schadenfreude maxed.
Related but not as fun:
German MEP Christine Anderson says the rollout of the mRNA vaccines:
"It will be known as the biggest crime to ever have been committed on mankind"
In Germany, two wrongs can make a reich.
But what can two reichs make?
Not sure, but would guess Misek is holding out for the third one.
Hitler and bibi. Like peanut butter and chocolate.
The video is basically 2 hours of irrefutable evidence after evidence and a list of banned books and information about Hitlers connection to assist Jewish interests.
https://www.targetfreedomusa.com/the-nazi-zionist-connection-shocking-hidden-history/
"Irrefutable." I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Misek has apparently confused the prefix "ir" with the word "easily".
I like the video too.
So much evidence to share that people need to see.
And as usual, you can’t refute any of it.
Won't the other kids play with you? Awww.
There was zero evidence. An evil crank ranting and telling lies isn't evidence, you sociopath.
True. None of us can refute your retarded ideology.
At 15:10 in the video the book Hitlers Jewish Soldiers by Brian Mark Riggs is referenced.
Hitler had in his army.
150000 Jewish Soldiers
1100 Jewish officers
79 high ranking Jewish officers
9 Jewish generals
Yet the popular narrative, the ONLY LEGAL narrative in many countries is that his objective was to kill all Jews. My ass!
Brian Mark Riggs was engaging in rhetorical tactics popularly called “lying his ass off” and “making shit up”, you credulous toad.
None of those "Nazi Jewish soldiers and generals" existed. Stupid fuck.
You’re a lying waste of skin Kol Nidre boy.
From the video, and Riggs book, and Wiki etc etc.
“Helmuth Wilberg 1880-1941
Served in Imperiel german Airforce and was a World War II Luftwaffe general (According to Jewish religious Law considered to be Jewish as his mother was Jewish)”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Jewish_military_personnel_of_World_War_I
Hitler liked him so much, he made him an honorary member of the Aryans.
“Kill all Jews” MY ASS!
From 18:00 in the video “the final solution to Hitler” by Dave Condit jr.
1933 was a big year for Zionists.
Both Hitler and FDR came to power.
Jews globally boycotted all German trade.
Hitler made the transfer agreement with Zionists to ship Jews, their money and Nazi made goods to Palestine.
FDR closed US borders to Jewish immigration.
Jewish ships carrying Jews, their money and goods like building materials to Palestine, Tel Aviv, flew Nazi flags.
Hitler never complained.
“Kill all Jews”. My ASS!
https://www.palestineremembered.com/Why_Did_Zionists_Hoist_Nazis_Swastika_Flags_On_Their_Ships.html
Wait for it.... refuted.
Fourth, Sir.
Hard to say. The left says the reich was far right, the right says the reich was far left. My guess is a moderate who supports abortions in the fourth trimester and howitzers for all.
So a hardcore libertarian?
(The 3rd was obviously of the left economically.)
We have two actually Nazis, Misek and Misconstrueman, spreading hate in this thread right now, and all the "righties" are telling them to fuck off.
But what are all the Sarc, Jeff and Buttplug-type far-left 'moderates' doing? Trolling the righties.
Looks like we have our answer to sarcasmic's "The left says the reich was far right, the right says the reich was far left" statement.
"Misconstrueman, spreading hate in this thread right now"
You have this wrong. I am the opposite of Nazi. I am opposed to the state of Israel and ethno-theocratic states. The Nazis supported the Zionist project in Palestine, offering German Jews money to settle there. Ranking members of the SS visited Palestine, met with leading Zionist fascists, hoping to forge some anti-British alliance. The Nazis were much more aligned with your thinking on Israel than I am. Same can be said with most pro - Israel Americans. They are motivated by their own interpretation of the Bible, but strongly pro-Israel, nevertheless. Pro Israel, anti Jew. That describes the Nazis and America's Christian Zionists perfectly, waiting for the second coming at which point the world's Jews can all go to hell.
I admire Jews, not all of them. I detest Israeli politicians and their Western cheerleaders but generally, and in all fields I respect and admire them - Spinoza, Rosa Luxembourg, Bob Dylan, Albert Einstein, even George Soros. How many right thinking supposedly 'non Nazis' like yourself can make the same claim?
I get that you love Israel. But that only puts you in the same boat as the Nazis. To get out of that boat you have to not hate the Jews, and I see no evidence that this is the case. So, for the time being, Nazi it is.
So if you're so anti-theocratic and ethno states, why is Israel the bad country? Not the Islamic Republic of Iran, not the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, not the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, not the Syria Arab Republic, not the United Arab Emirates, not the Arab Republic of Egypt, nor any other country in the area which defines itself based on a cultural or ethnic group (like Turkey)?
Why is it Israel that is so singularly bad?
"Why is it Israel that is so singularly bad?"
They are committing genocide against the Palestinians. Iran isn't doing that. Neither is Pakistan, Jordan, Syria, Emirates, Egypt or Turkey. Israel is also far more engaged in corrupting American politicians than the nations you mention. Saudi is a possible exception, but you don't mention that in your laundry list of bad countries, for whatever reason.
"Why is it Israel that is so singularly bad?"
Why? Probably because of America. Israel simply couldn't do the nasty things it does without American funding, moral and material encouragement, or turning a blind eye to Israeli war crimes. Iran, doesn't get any such support from America, and doesn't engage in genocide or ethnic cleansing. So, blame America if you're looking for a scapegoat. America is the big brother enabler.
First genocide I've ever seen where the primary aid provided to the genocided country comes from the one committing genocide. So weird.
"First genocide I’ve ever seen where the primary aid provided to the genocided country comes from the one committing genocide."
Israel's genocide only goes as far as Biden allows it to. You've doubtless been following the news and learned that he's running for re-election. It's not so weird at all if you stop and think of it for a moment. Stop parroting media talking points and think a little for yourself.
"They are committing genocide against the Palestinians."
How come the only source, and I mean the ONLY source, for this "Israeli genocide" is Hamas and nobody else?
The same guys who filmed themselves massacring peace protesters, abducting and beating children, parading the corpse of a young woman they caught and raped at a rave, ad nauseam. The same guys designated as a terrorist group by the entire European Union, the entire Organization of American States, Japan and Korea, Canada, the US, the UK, Australia and New Zealand.
The fact that you choose to believe and repeat their propaganda, shows what an evil monster you are.
"How come the only source, and I mean the ONLY source, for this “Israeli genocide” is Hamas and nobody else?"
You are ignoring the statements of high ranking Israeli cabinet members, military leaders, and media personalities. They aren't Hamas, are they? Is your contempt for Jews really so deep that you're willing to turn a blind eye to their despicable disregard for civilized norms?
"The same guys designated as a terrorist group by the entire European Union, the entire Organization of American States, Japan and Korea, Canada, the US, the UK, Australia and New Zealand."
This is irrelevant. Whether Hamas is designated as a terrorist group or not by US stooges like the EU etc has no bearing on the question of Israel's genocide against Gaza.
"You are ignoring the statements of high ranking Israeli cabinet members, military leaders, and media personalities."
So cite them.
Don't weasel out. Give us a reliable citation from a "high ranking Israeli cabinet member" or "military leader" that proves Israel is genociding Gazans.
"So cite them"
Read the South African legal brief against Israel if you really want to know. It goes to great lengths to establish intent to commit genocide. Get back to me once you've managed to digest it. We can discuss it then if you wish.
“Read the South African legal brief against Israel if you really want to know.”
Made up horseshit that EXPLICITLY also cites Hamas as its primary source. Just like you. And just like you, antisemitism is the only explanation for why they did so.
Also, the South African Jew haters aren’t exactly the “high ranking Israeli cabinet members” or “military leaders” leaders that you claimed in the last post.
Everyone here knows what your real game is. Just admit it like Misek does.
I don't think you've read the document. You've only read tendentious summaries of them in neocon media. Basically that means you're only hearing what one side wants you to hear. I honestly think you should make an effort to expose yourself to Hamas side of the fight. Know your enemy, the advice of Sun Tzu and Sinwar. But to you they are sub humans and are unworthy of your consideration. Well, it's precisely thinking like that what got Israel into this fix. Thanks to arrogant, delusional, hate filled people like you.
George Soros has never considered himself a Jew. Maybe that’s why you like him? Aside from him hunting down Jews of course.
"George Soros has never considered himself a Jew."
Spinoza was expelled from the Jewish community for heresy. Bob Dylan embraced Jesus as his saviour, and Albert and Rosa were left leaning atheists. Maybe I just like bad Jews. Doesn't make me a Nazi, though.
But what are all the Sarc, Jeff and Buttplug-type far-left ‘moderates’ doing?
Cute how you call me far-left when you can’t name a single far-left policy or politician that I support without being a Jesse and calling me a liar when I say you are wrong.
Poor sarc
Easy peasy.
Joseph Robinette Biden.
Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Charles Ellis Schumer.
Barack Hussein Obama.
Nancy Patricia Pelosi.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Gavin Christopher Newsom.
Elizabeth Ann Warren.
Bernard Sanders.
Kamala Devi Harris.
Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg.
Robert Francis "Beto" O'Rourke.
Amy Jean Klobuchar.
Ladda Tammy Duckworth.
As for the policies they're all listed here.
like clockwork
"like clockwork"
Lol, sometimes I'd swear you're a random text generator.
Hitler would have felt right at home here with our holocaust denying, god bothering Christian commenters - loving Israel, hating Jews. Right up until the outbreak of war Hitler was offering German Jews money to relocate to Palestine, or anywhere else. These efforts occupied the best minds of the SS like Eichmann and Heydrich. (Check out the biography of Walter Benjamin - he had plenty of chances and invitations to emigrate to Palestine, but he declined because he didn't know Hebrew and the place was a backwater anyway.)
You’re kidding right?
He’s nuts.
Yes, Hitler could only speak German. He wouldn't have 'felt right at home here' as this is an English speaking board. And it's a bit of an overstatement to say Hitler loved Israel or Zionism. He just found both extremely preferable to having an unwelcome alien race living amongst the Germans, his own version of God's chosen people. Otherwise, no, I'm not kidding. Next question please.
I keep thinking you can’t get any worse and I keep being proved wrong.
"I keep thinking... "
I see no evidence for that. You don't appear to be thinking at all, but instead mindlessly repeating vapid insults and smears.
If the smear fits, Herr Goebbels.
I'm seeing how you get your negative reputation.
"I’m seeing how you get your negative reputation."
A negative reputation here is a badge of honor. If you think upholding your reputation among the scum who post here is a worthy aim, well, I just don't know.
I prefer to have a reputation that isn't built upon lies.
The only person here who denies the Holocaust and hates Jews is Herr Misek and he is roundly mocked for it. So I don’t get your attempt to smear that shit on the rest of us.
There's plenty who deny genocide which is arguably worse than denying the holocaust of the 20th century. Today's holocaust in Gaza is ongoing and could be stopped if only Biden would put his foot down. We can't do anything to stop a historical holocaust that's already happened.
I suspect the hatred for Jews is a lot more prevalent than you do. I see it every time somebody here accuses me of being a Nazi or anti-semite. I see you haven't done so here, to your credit. But read Mother's Lament's comments. These accusations fly freely with him showing a contempt for Jews and a willingness to degrade and water down reprehensible and hateful attitudes to the point where they become meaningless school yard taunts.
ML hates a lot of people. I mean A FUCKING LOT of people. He takes pride in his hatred.
Thing is, he then assumes that everyone else is equally ruled by their emotions like a Vulcan in heat. He's in pon farr all the time, and can't imagine anyone not being a slave to their feelings.
Is ML first on the list?
"Is ML first on the list?"
Who can say? For me most of the commenters here sink into an undifferentiated mass of pond scum. Present company excepted, of course. Your own comments speak for themselves, quite a rare quality around here.
“Thing is, he then assumes that everyone else is equally ruled by their emotions like a Vulcan in heat. He’s in pon farr all the time, and can’t imagine anyone not being a slave to their feelings.”
Lol, okay drunky. You just cozy up to your brand-new antisemitic pal and commiserate together about how mean old Mother’s hates Nazis and fascists, and how awful that is.
It’s been incredible to watch how TDS and alcohol can push a midwit blue-collar liberaltarian into accepting antisemitism and authoritarianism.
@sarc: ML may hate a lot of people, but even you can admit he’s never shown any towards Jews.
@mtrueman: fuck off, I don’t need a terrorist defender’s credit. And hating Nazis & Anti-Semitic pieces of shit is not hatred of Jews, no matter how many times you try to spin it as such.
Oh, and there is no fucking Holocaust in Gaza. Talk about cheapening words.
"And hating Nazis & Anti-Semitic pieces of shit is not hatred of Jews"
Your error lies in the belief that love of Israel is love of Jews. You evidently share a love of Israel with Nazis, Joe Biden, and most of the commenters here. Your contempt for Jews is evident in how you debase the anti-semitism concept for cheap political shots. Are you a Christian, or what?
"Oh, and there is no fucking Holocaust in Gaza."
Was there a holocaust on Oct. 7th in Israel? Please let me know which words I can use that won't offend you.
There are these weird things they teach 5th graders called primary sources. Have you ever considered reading some?
In these comments two wrongs make a right winger. Or a 180 degree turn. But I repeat myself
Often. Seldom correctly.
He's a treasure.
It is (D)ifferent when his team (D)oes (D)astardly (D)eeds.
It’s (R)elative when (R)ighteous (R)epublcans (R)egoice and (R)evel over (R)epugnant (R)ules
Though contrary to the narrative I despise both political tribes. Retards and Deficients.
(G)o (A)nnoy (Y)our (F)riend (A)nd (G)ish (G)alloping (O)bese (T)ard
I always imagined Sarc as meth-skinny, rather than obese.
Do all of you Canadians hosers still shave?
Sarc lets his happy-trail travel where it wills.
I thought Strange Brew was a documentary about your life. Not just you, but all Canadians.
Oh, yeah, that's probably because you're an idiot.
Why do you always lie.
Example. Go into any article critical of dems or Joe and who are you attacking?
Jeff also claimed to be neutral then his Twitter was found retweeting the worst of dems.
And the 2nd reich makes Trump. Ask Jeff or sarc.
I hope she's correct that history will judge it that way but I have serious doubts. The media the state and most of the public are in complete denial. And the expert class is complicit. Winners write history and I'm pretty sure AI will regurgitate the conventional wisdom. I'm still waiting to see the JFK files for crissake and once the boomers are gone nobody will give a shit. Will Millennials demand answers in 20 years? Or will it all be down the memory hole.
Ouch.
Funny.
They died for their cause.
Wow. You really are an evil piece of shit. Here we have a bunch of people who died, and you are dancing on their graves only because they advocated for people getting vaccinated. Go fuck yourself.
I seem to remember you doing the exact same thing over Herman Cain’s death, you hypocritical fat fuck.
Every one of those authoritarian fucks censored, and declaimed, and demanded that hospital care be witheld for people who refused your fucking garbage phony therapeutic.
People were removed from surgery, fired from their jobs, and denied public services because of those discount bin fascists your now pretending to morn.
So drop your phony opprobrium, Nazi. Those politruks dying from the clot shot are getting karma hard and fast. They chose this.
Oh, and fuck you. I didn’t get a chance to say it yet today, and it’s a good habit to get into.
The only grave I’ll ever dance on is that of my ex wife. I can’t imagine having that kind of hatred over politics that you’d do that to a complete stranger.
That assumes someone will go through the expense and trouble of putting her in a graveyard. Like I'll get that kind of satisfaction.
I can’t imagine hating someone enough to do it either, but partaking in some Schadenfreude isn’t dancing on “people’s graves” though.
Also, some of those people did a lot more than “advocate for people getting vaccinated”.
I don't laugh when people fall off ladders.
" I can’t imagine having that kind of hatred over politics that you’d do that to a complete stranger."
It’s not politics, retard.
It’s the tin-pot dictators who got people knocked off surgery lists, fired from their jobs and censored on the internet, who are dying from karma induced by their own hubris.
The fat fucking Nazi who gloated at Herman Cain’s death, is now mock outraged for someone noting their deaths from their own actions.
He’s still mad that you found him on Twitter.
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I don't share your hatred.
I know you don't. That's because you're not a decent person, Sarc.
Learn to hate evil and do good.
Why you pay for the internet every month:
Muslim Style Techno Dance
Nuh uh. Not a single pair of naked titties.
Diversity?
https://abcnews.go.com/International/iran-president-ebrahim-raisi-helicopter-hard-landing-search-underway/story?id=110374228
Iranian president's helicopter suffers 'hard landing,' search underway: Reports
Unscheduled rapid disassembly.
Did he annoy Putin or the Clintons?
Good one.
Couldn't have been Putin, so that leaves...
From all the videos, it just looks like poor weather conditions.
So capitalism and racism which causes climate change.
Red Crescent now reporting no signs pf life after crews have reached the supposed crash site.
https://ktla.com/entertainment/sean-diddy-combs-admits-responsibility-apologizes-for-beating-ex-girlfriend/
Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs admits responsibility, apologizes for beating ex-girlfriend
I bet Diddy is calling in all his blackmail markers from all those years of his freak parties with the famous/powerful. Black Epstein.
Very relevant political news.
Last I checked, Sundays are open thread. Fuck off.
Point of order, every day is open thread day. Rules, make them I do not.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rep-crockett-ripped-hawking-t-shirt-based-feud-mtg-start-spelling-your-last-name-correctly
Rep. Crockett ripped for hawking T-shirt based on feud with MTG: ‘Start by spelling your last name correctly’
Seems they hate Rudy as much as Trump. They always show the absolute worst photos of him in articles. Always cracks me up for some reason.
Have to admit; Like Trump, ol' Rudy can't shut the fuck up sometimes.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2024/05/18/Rudy-Giuliani-served-indictment-fake-electors/6741716042125/
Rudy Giuliani served notice of Ariz. indictment during birthday party
Right in the middle of his 80th birthday party. Even the most bitter of psychotic assholes have nothing on a Democrat.
"Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes confirmed on social media that Giuliani was served with a notice of indictment Friday evening.
"The final defendant was served moments ago. @RudyGiuliani nobody is above the law," Mayes wrote."
I wonder if he'll feel the same way sharing a cell with Mike Nifong ten years from now.
Frauded elections have consequences, America. Look at Arizona as a cautionary tale.
A judge has already admitted Mayes won by less than uncounted ballots or even suspected fraudulent ballots but is slow rolling the case.
I do not recall having heard of the “Baptists and Bootleggers” concept before but I like it! Neatly and succinctly captures the essence of liberty. One also drifts naturally over into contemplation of all the Baptists who were also Bootleggers, profiting socially from the religious camp and financially from the pirate camp! Thank you, Bruce Yandle, BA, MBA, PhD.
Uh, have you ever heard why you have to take two Baptists when you go fishing?
Same reason you have to take two Mormons. One alone will drink all your beer.
No, but I have heard that Baptists don't have sex standing up because people might think they were dancing.
I do not recall having heard of the “Baptists and Bootleggers” concept before but I like it!
Surprise! The guy who thinks BLM is right about cops killing too many (black) people has never heard of the “Baptists and Bootleggers” concept.
Lets play a game here
X = where industry players, interest groups, and government agents meet continuously to monitor and manage investor-owned firms.
Is X capitalism or socialism?
That’s right “crony capitalism” is an oxymoron (BS phrase) of [Na]tional So[zi]alist propaganda indoctrination. It has and always will be “crony socialism” which fully fits the definition of fascism.
What about new-age compassionate capitalism?
The new-age 'armed-theft' compassion?
TJJ2000 – My problem with your opinions is that you play the game of “fast and loose” with facts and logic. Capitalism does not require involvement by industry players, interest groups OR government agents to be capitalism. Free market capitalism is still capitalism whether government or other interest groups are involved in any way or not. Capitalism is a system where 1) everyone is allowed to own private property; 2) everyone who owns property is allowed to keep the proceeds of their private enterprises using that property; and 3) no one is allowed by government to infringe on the equal rights of others in the process. Although reasonable laws may be included in a practical capitalist system, regulating the free exercise of mutually agreed upon trade transactions in any way changes it from “capitalism” per se to a “mixed economy” system. Once the right to free exchange between and among capitalist enterprises is regulated in any way, the next step is for wealthy, unscrupulous or powerful individuals to buy favors from the regulators that give them an unfair advantage over potential competitors, corrupting the governmental “equal protection under the law” presumption. That is accurately called “crony” capitalism. Socialism is not crony capitalism. Socialism is state ownership and operation of the major means of production with private property either totally banned or marginalized to personal property only or small family enterprises. It is impossible for anyone possessing at least two Bett cells to rub up against each other to misunderstand those definitions.
Oops ... Betz cells.
He conflates Nazism with Fascism too.
As opposed to what?
As opposed to not conflating them. Two different words, two different things. Nazism is all about German nationalism. Fascism is about the state colluding with financial interests against the working class. We call it 'austerity' today rather than fascism as both fascism and Nazism are severely stigmatized.
LOL... Do you think German Nazi's weren't fascists? Or did you think the parties coined acronym [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] is a misnomer? Seems about the only point you have is banging your head against the wall.
Fascists are lined up with big business, finance, the military, aristocracy etc against the working class. Socialists are as MWAocDoc described them. Both share a view of the world as divided by the upper cream and the masses, and each takes an opposing side. It comes down to a question of how to divide the nation’s and its citizen’s wealth.
Nazism is about Making Germany Great Again. It’s first and foremost, right down to its name. The first two letters of Nazi, Na stand for National in German, English, French, any way you look at it. The Socialist part of the name was mostly a cheap political trick to syphon votes from their main rivals, Socialists and Communists. There were genuine Socialists in the early days, most famously the two brothers, name escapes me, but they were dealt with after Hindenberg and Papen maneuvered Hitler into the chancellorship. One exiled one murdered.
Hitler wanted the classes to live in harmony, as long as they were all German. He did have some leveling instincts, but he was far more deferential to the aristocracy, the capitalists and the military to be confused as a Socialist. See Joseph Stalin in next door Russia for a picture how a leftist treats aristocrats, capitalists and military once given unlimited power. As far as economics was concerned, Hitler wasn’t interested. He liked movies, architecture and music. He left the economics to his minions. So Nazi Germany was a mish mash of left leaning and right leaning policies. His autobahn and car ownership project is a perfect example.
It amazes me how you claim the "The National Socialist German Workers’ Party" is not to be confused as "Socialist". Care to make excuses on how blue isn't really the color blue too?
The only thing refuting the oxymoron of "crony capitalism" is you down right making contradiction itself a claim.
And P.S.; Hitler wasn't on the 'right' in this nations conceptual political spectrum. His party was socialists struggling against full-blown communists. Two fully Left-Political ideologies by today's spectrum just a matter of how extreme.
You define capitalism very well.
Then do a complete blatant contradiction of your own definition (oxymoron) with “fast and loose” *excuses* on how a "crony capitalist" can exist without being fascism/socialism.
Fascism - dirigiste[15][16] economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky (national economic self-sufficiency) through economic interventionist policies.
Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems[1] characterised by social ownership of the means of production,[2] as opposed to private ownership. Social ownership can take various forms, including *public*, community, collective, cooperative,[7][8][9] or employee.
The German Nazi party was indeed both a fascist economy and by it's very party name (EXACTLY an acronym of [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] or fully spelled out The Nazi Party,[b] officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party)
Perhaps your only logic error is compulsively trying to link the two with 'capitalism' when you obviously know better simply because leftard-propaganda has for years indoctrinated you to twist your logic into an oxymoronic contradiction.
"A renaissance was set in motion despite official attempts to stymie the technology."
I very much doubt it was officialdom what stymied the use of the printing press in the Muslim world. It was aesthetics. The original printing press worked well for languages using the Roman, Greek or Hebrew alphabet where each individual letter is separate and distinct. Arabic is not like that. The letters run together similar to cursive writing. There were attempts made to publish Arabic manuscripts by separating out the letters but the results looked alien and bizarre to Arabic readers, and the efforts were not followed up.
Arabs continued to write by hand, as calligraphy was appreciated as an art form in itself apart from the content. It was much later that technology improved to accommodate Arabic texts with the letters joined together.
Biden is launching his back in chains campaign.
Get ready for racism, reverse racism, anti racism, quasi racism, double blind racism.
Good times are a coming.
This is America. When are we not ready for racism, reverse racism, anti racism, quasi racism, double blind racism?
Pink is for girls, blue is for boys. Welcome to the
1950s2020s.What is Yellow for?
Altman demonstrated how his company's tool could massively reduce the cost of retrieving, processing, conveying, and perhaps even modifying the collective knowledge of mankind as stored in computer memories worldwide.
How to make me uncomfortable with your technology without kicking me in the nuts while saying it.
Did he throw that last bit in there to assure the Biden Administration's disinformation industrial complex czars?
Automated memory holes.