DeSantis Signs Bill Banning Lab-Grown Meat in Florida
While the governor framed the legislation as necessary to protect Floridians from "the global elite," he's the real authoritarian.

On Wednesday, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) signed a bill banning the sale or production of lab-grown meat in the state. While a press release framed the bill as an attempt to advance Floridans' freedom by protecting them from the "World Economic Forum's goal of forcing the world to eat lab-grown meat and insects," all the legislation really does is stile competition for the state's meat producers.
"Today, Florida is fighting back against the global elite's plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs to achieve their authoritarian goals," DeSantis said in a Wednesday press release. "Our administration will continue to focus on investing in our local farmers and ranchers, and we will save our beef."
Cultivated, or "lab-grown," meat has been available in the United States on an extremely limited basis, generally limited to individual restaurants, since last year, after the Food and Drug Administration approved two different kinds of cultivated chicken for sale.
However, despite DeSantis' supposed fears about a lab-grown meat takeover, the small cultivated meat industry is struggling. The product isn't currently available anywhere in the United States, let alone in Florida.
Nonetheless, the governor signed Senate Bill 1084, which enacts a wide-ranging ban on cultivated meat, making it illegal "for any person to manufacture for sale, sell, hold or offer for sale, or distribute cultivated meat in" Florida. Violators of the law face misdemeanor penalties, and businesses caught selling the product could have their licenses suspended.
"We must protect our incredible farmers and the integrity of American agriculture," Florida Commissioner of Agriculture Wilton Simpson said in the press release. "Lab-grown meat is a disgraceful attempt to undermine our proud traditions and prosperity, and is in direct opposition to authentic agriculture."
However, it seems DeSantis is the real authoritarian in this situation. Instead of letting Floridians decide for themselves whether they want to try lab-grown meat, DeSantis is having the state step in, all in the name of protecting Floridians from an imaginary threat to their freedom.
Florida's lab-grown meat ban is a perfect marriage of protectionism and the culture war. By framing the tiny lab-grown meat industry as a left-wing threat, DeSantis can justify giving government kickbacks to the meat industry, all while protecting meat producers from a source of future competition. Wednesday's press release goes so far as to brag about a litany of recently passed legislation that "support[s] the state's agriculture and meat industry."
Unfortunately, Florida isn't the first state to ban cultivated meat. Alabama passed a ban on lab-grown meat last month, and legislation to ban the product is pending in Arizona and Tennessee. Italy banned it last year.
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Someone wants to force Floridians to eat bugs and lab-grown meat? Yes, I would support a bill against that.
Otherwise, it all falls under the realm of "choice."
Having a daily DeSantis beat is kind of odd. We need a daily Gavin Newsome beat too I think.
Nobody is forcing anyone to eat anything but De Santis is taking away some of your choices.
Not my choices, I don’t live in Florida.
"De Santis is taking away some of your choices"
"Choices"
You man like how democrats like to ban everything from Diesel trains to gas stoves, to ICE vehicles (if they get their way)? And you’re a democrat who has no problem with that.
So how is it a problem for you when DeSantis bans something?
If you didn't call everyone you disagree with a Leftist/Democrat then maybe your accusation would have more credibility.
DoL can't help rushing to protect his lefty boos from any criticism. So precious.
Fuck you.
Cause if we know anything about California they've never regulated any food.
I was wondering how you could possibly spin this. "Regulation"...
Desantis is basically Donald Trump-lite without the the sociopathy element that Trump relishes. He believes in despotism and big government police enforcement of his whims.
"the global elite,"
SHIT YER PANTS, BOYS!
"There's no need for a formal conspiracy when all of the economic and political elites share the same ideology."
-George Carlin
It's not infringing upon freedom when they ban something you weren't planning on doing anyway. Right?
That pretty much sums up the attitude of both parties.
you can't goto Georgia & buy the fake meat either would be the authoritarian part ...
Are we to the point where they're trying to figure out how to prosecute people for even having their own personal stash of the seed cell cultures, 80% complete growth medium, or both on their own property?
If not, wake me when we get there.
Nothing in this article says the ban applies to making and consuming your own.
Zzzzz....
A person who knowingly violates this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 1060 775.082 or s. 775.083.
Phbbbt. Did you know that on Jan. 1, 2024 my State made it a Class 3 Felony to own an artifact that I legally owned on Dec. 31, 2023? GTFO with your 2nd Degree misdemeanor for buying and selling bullshit.
Keeping people from making choices is what liberty is all about. In the fantasy world that DeSantis lives in that is.
Otherwise, it all falls under the realm of “choice.”
If there were no other regulations on food and food products by the State and/or Federal Gov’t, this would be correct. But that’s not even remotely the case and this falls more under the subversive Marxism that Emma’s seemingly rehearsed retardation facilitates.
If horse meat is regulated by the FL Department of Agriculture, and it is, then cultured meat should be similarly subject to regulation. If Wheat Flour is regulated by the Federal Department of Agriculture, and it is, then cultured meat shouldn’t be exceptional to the same/similar regulations. There’s a case that no food, cultured or otherwise, should be regulated and that case would be pre-eminently libertarian but, as is routinely pointed out in these articles, that’s not the case Emma is making.
Instead this is a standard fare “Republicans pounce” salutary contradiction. “We’re not trying to preferentially force anything on anyone but your insistence that it all be regulated equally is stifling our progress in the ‘free market’.”
"If there were no other regulations on food and food products by the State and/or Federal Gov’t, this would be correct."
This is all just more "DESANTIS!!!!" by Team Koch and the Reason Democrats.
If every single Blue State in America hadn't imposed insane food regulations just in the last year I'd believe Sarcasmic's, Buttplug's and Mxyzptlk's opprobrium about lab meat was genuine.
Would I eat lab meat and crickets? Absolutely.
Does the WEF want us all eating only crickets in our pods? They say so right on their website.
You can't fault DeSantis for paying attention.
So, because there are already regulations that are unconstitutional its ok to pass more? Interesting perspective.
^THIS. If DeSantis wasn't such a power-mad freak he'd pass State legislation that disables the federal FDA not excuse his own tyranny as just another step-up the ladder of a tyrannical game gone mad.
No.
But what you for some reason you only bitch about the one side while ignoring the much more numerous actions on the other side. Youre a part time libertarian, when you can attack the right.
Oh fuck you with a running chainsaw you tyrant fan boy. The problem is that only liberty you right wing wanna be fascists care about is the 2nd Amendment. You want the rest to be pissed on.
Reason isn't trying to recruit from your numbers anymore so they aren't talking "guns, guns, guns" like you want to see. Gawd forbid there are other kinds of personal liberty out there, you just want to toss everyone who seeks that liberty in jail, oddly enough, the only place you do support anal sex.
While I do not fundamentally agree with squashing someone's choice, preemptively protecting the beef industry from the cow fart zealots isn't a bad thing.
We are one or two fortified elections away from living under the climate crisis theocracy.
Lab grown meat isn't going to go anywhere unless it gets a shit ton of government money to start up. Beef eats grass. Grass is dirt+sun+rain. Two of those ingredients are free. Everything in a Lab grown burger comes from stuff that costs money. I doubt ranchers need to be protected from Lab grown meat in our lifetime.
"isn’t going to go anywhere unless it gets a shit ton of government money"
Enter the ?green? energy lobby.
It's amazing how 'government money' gets thrown at the dumbest things one can ever imagine and indoctrination just covers-up for it.
Just get rid of the democrats. Problem solved.
If you kill people who vote for a specific political party is that Genocide? Maybe it's politicide...
Would you call Jews who shoot Nazi's trying to escape a Nazi-camp genocide? When the party ideology is criminal it's correctly phrased as self-defense.
The US Constitution (The Supreme Law of the Land) just needs to strip them of their UN-Constitutional Nazi criminal ways in D.C. is all and if it takes another Civil War it'd be worth it. There is no other USA out there to save us from the Nazi's within.
That's all it would take for the left to prevent all the discord in the USA is to stop passing legislation that is UN-Constitutional and stop putting justices on the bench who don't even pretend do their job of enforcing the Supreme Law. That's it. That's all. BUT they won't. Over and over and over again they just keep trying to pass 'armed-theft' of those 'icky' people for the Nazi-Empire.
If the jews shot back I don’t think we’d call it genocide. If both sides have a body count its just war, not genocide.
As for passing unconstitutional law I agree. Too bad there isn’t a majority party that defends the constitution and bill of rights. As such we just get more and more unconstitutional laws. We’ll, from a strict constructionist point of view of course. I’m sure the left thinks they are within constitutional bounds with their Living Constitution interpretation and the right thinks they too are within constitutional bounds with their Christian Nation interpretation.
Problem is, whose right? Jefferson is quoted as saying that further generations can not be expected to be restricted by the views of their barbaric ancestors any more than a grown man can be expected to wear the same coat he wore as a boy. It’s not letter perfect I admit but if you look up his coat quote the right one usually comes up.
Hamilton didn’t even think the common citizens should get a vote. He wanted a monarchy. We don’t really know what Washington thought because his diaries were boring as whale snot. All he talked about was planting and weather.
The Supreme Court isn’t even supposed to rule on the constitutionality of law. They stole that power when Jefferson was in office and a he didn't think a fight was worth it so early in the nation’s existence.
Rules as Written it seems the constutution was to be interpreted through elections. A horrible idea today but the guys writing it couldn’t have predicted Television.
It may happen. If it does the funding of said needs to be fought. Banning the sale in Florida will just be evaded by manipulating ingredients to get past the law. DeSantis is just virtue signaling to his supporters in the agricultural lobby.
Is that how you explain money going to sport stadiums?
OMG... I finally understand the 'green' in the green-energy...
It's $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$-green of stolen money. 🙂
The BIG-$$$$$$$$$$$ energy lobby. All makes sense now.
EVs provides exemplary testimony. Astronomically expensive technology subsidized by government while every alternative is regulated to extinction.
The problem is that, fairly predictably, we're looking at the same dynamic that pushes solar and EVs. You subsidize and mandate the shit out of the new tech, paying for the subsidies with taxes on the old tech, and the new tech starts to look sorta kinda reasonable because most of it's expense has been dumped on the new tech, hiding the actual cost differential.
I don't think actually banning the product is the right way to interrupt this dynamic, but it has to be interrupted somehow, or some years down the road every time you buy your $20 a pound real hamburger half the price will be subsidizing your neighbor's Frankenburger.
While grass feed beef is not as rare as lab meat it is not the most common meat either. Most meat is grain fed which does cost, but is subsidized by the government.
All beef is grass fed. Except veal. But that's beef for pussies.
Grass FINISHED is the special stuff. It doesn't get a few months on a grain/hay mix in a slaughter yard to develop that nice white fat. It has that yellowish fat like a deer.
Most poultry and pork are grain feed and most cattle are grain finished.
That's because chickens can't turn grass into meat like a cow can. They also won't produce eggs without a very rich diet. Hogs are fed such a careful diet to maximize protein and minimize fat I don't know that you can call it "grain" fed. More like some grain but mostly supplements to make the low far "other white meat".
Grass finished beef is garbage. Tastes like venison. May as well eat venison, it's cheaper to get the license and pay the locker to process the meat.
Allow me to suggest the following test report showing that venison and beef taste the same.
https://sportsmansblog.com/2010/10/25/humor-comparing-venison-vs-beef/
Grass finished beef tastes like venison. Grain finished beef is delicious. I suspect the lab grown beef will taste better than grass finished beef. Venison tastes better than grass finished beef.
We are only 1 more election away from despotism, and that will make cow fart regulations seem quaint. Trump is a dictator in waiting and he has all you MAGAs fooled lmao.
So how many new E.O.'s did Trump sign and how many did Biden sign and how many of Trumps E.O.'s were cancelling Obama's?
Leftard Self-Projection. Will it ever end?
On a per year Trumps tops out both Obama and Biden on EOs.
Would you like to cherry-pick the seconds next? /s
What-ever it takes to sell the 'big' government party right, right?
I've been hearing that threat since 1988, the first election I voted in. Both sides play that tune to keep voters from going minor party. I doubt it's any more true now than it was then.
I can see why the repooblicans didn't nominate Dick Sanctis. He's prolly the only one on their team--aside from anarco-Beavis and Boothead--who makes Trump seem sane by comparison.
I don't always agree with the nick names Trump comes up with for his opponents but DeSanctimonious hits the spot.
Speaking of authoritarians, the DOJ is defending the Whitmer kidnapping entrapment in oral arguments in the circuit court.
Not going well for them.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1786041225499320539.html
Kessler argues concealed messages were irrelevant bc the jury still found Fox and Croft were "predisposed" to commit the fednapping.
Judge: "Isn't that not quite, right? The case law suggests it's a sliding scale. The more you are induced, the less predisposed you need to be. They are related, they're not separate."
BINGO.
Kessler explains that inducement requires "excessive pressure, repeated solicitation..."
Judge Larsen (Trump) interrupts: "But that's their point...the jury never heard all these statement, repeated pressure, that if they would have come in, they would have seen...this is their argument...the government informants pounding on them, 'make a plan, make a plan, you're just sitting around, you're all talk no action, make a plan.' Surely that's relevant?"
Kessler: "Theoretically, yes." LOL
Larsen and Kessler getting into it.
Larsen: "Our case law says things like encouragement, friendship." (This was KEY to Chappel entrapping Fox, whom he considered a father figure. Something like 10,000 messages btw Chappel and Fox.)
Nessler: It has to be more than friendship.
Larsen: That's not what the case law says.
Even the Biden judge (Davis) asks about judge's "blanket" denial of messages. (I will post separately.)
Now Judge Readler (Trump) is reading aloud two of the messages from FBI informants not allowed into evidence.
"There's a lot of stuff about 'we need to keep moving, we need to keep the plan going, come on guys," and "we are running out of time."
Kessler, whose mouth is becoming increasingly dry, claims those plans came from Adam Fox--the broke guy who lived in the basement of vacuum repair shop in Grand Rapids with no running water or toilet.
Chappel on at least 4 occasions offered Fox a credit card with a $5k limit (courtesy of the FBI) Fox said no.
OOF.
Larsen and Kessler at it again. Kessler claims Jonker's decision to conceal messages from informants that didn't specifically regurgitate what an FBI agent said is consistent with a ruling in their circuit.
Larsen: Oh come on, really?
This shit is becoming insane, here’s Colorado
https://www.reuters.com/technology/first-law-protecting-consumers-brainwaves-signed-by-colorado-governor-2024-04-18/
Blissful political ignorance is underrated
It's going to get really goddamned interesting* when the State of Colorado discovers that clumps of cells have brainwaves that need protecting at ~8 weeks.
*As someone who's been in favor of the "heartbeat and brainwaves" standard since they unplugged Terri Schiavo, I mean "interesting" in the "predictably retarded" sense.
Making someone create something isn't 'protecting'.
Only if the woman has the technology implanted in vitro.
the demarcation has always been viability outside the womb without medical intervention. No matter what MAGAs think they can't change that standard.
Never-mind Trump is more Pro-Choice than Pro-Life lefty-indoctrination must blame it all on the MAGA crowd because ... And I quote from the DNC platform, "The bill has come due on the Trump Administration’s hollowing out of our ?public? /commie/-institutions".
It's actually quite obvious where the Trump witch-hunts motivation really lies. He "hollowed" out some of the [Na]tional So[zi]alist Empire.
Wow. That is a really stupid law. We don't even have the technology yet, unless you believe in the Orbital Mind Control Lasers.
Fuck dudes, now do all the data slurping from a car.
I want a Mustang that doesn't datalog everything I've done, everywhere I've gone, and demand that I agree to them using that data and releasing it to law enforcement without asking me.
Just for the record, Emma, the governor is signing legislation passed by the elected legislature, not acting like a democrat executive order signing dictator.
By the way, how would you compare this legislation to the California one ending diesel locomotives, in terms of harm to the general populace?
This isn't a competition to see which side is pissing on more of the constitution and bill of rights. Both are guilty. Both need to stop. Since none of us are voting Democrat here we aren't going to influence them.
Since none of us are voting Democrat here we aren’t going to influence them.
Wink wink. And just a day after saying libertarians need to go towards the democrats.
Fuck you. I said we are recruiting FORMER Democrats voters. Not that we are voting for Democrat politicians.
Are you retarded or something?
The answer is not in one party but in the sane people in the middle of both parties. Banning Foie gras and banning lab grown meat are the same thing. It is people in the middle saying both extremes are crazy.
One of the lab grown chicken products the fda approved still requires fetal bovine growth hormone from aborted calves. I guess aborted babies are vegan?
Thry may be vegan but are they kosher?
Only if you don't melt cheese over them. They taste best with cheese.
The vegan diet is complicated, as are many other diets. Some vegans are motivated by protecting animals while other believe in the diet for health reasons. Honey is a good example as it is not uniformly rejected by vegans. I am not sure that I would accept a person telling me they are vegan while eating lab grown meat.
One of the byproducts of tofu manufacturing is the soy solids and fiber. That is used to feed pigs. By eating tofu you are contributing to the production of bacon. There is no such thing as ethical food.
Doesn't preventing people from accessing lab grown meat just make it a forbidden fruit and increase its appeal? If it's inferior, let the market take care of that. If it's superior, why suppress it? People aren't dumb. They'll buy what's best for them.
People aren’t dumb. They’ll buy what’s best for them.
Did you type this with a straight face? 🙂
Apparently wasn’t around during Covid
People aren’t dumb.
You must not read many of Emma’s articles. Or Elizabeth “Sonograms detect electrical currents.” Nolan Brown’s articles. Or Ron “MOAR TESTING” Bailey’s articles… I mean you know adults sitting in traffic and gluing their hands to the floor and then demanding they be fed is a political thing now, right?
We practically have an entire political party devoted to the idea of answering the challenge of “You can’t legislate against stupidity.” with “Hold my fair trade, free trade, half-calf, ecologically sourced, locally-grown from a DEI-managed Co-op, almond milk, double-shot, no foam, 6 pumps of vanilla and 4 splendas, latte.”
Rather ban fake meat than guns.
Because you can eat guns.
How bout stop banning shit in general? When in doubt choose liberty.
Shouldn't be banned, definitely shouldn't be mandatory.
However, we should have honest marketing. If McD's or whoever starts selling chicken and it's 90% lab grown and 10% real and they advertise it as "real meat," they should be liable for... well, something. Breach of contract, maybe.
If we were to accept its stated premise, the regulatory state *should*, in theory, be enforcing this kind of thing on the big guys. But they're captured, corrupt, and used as a cudgel to persecute the little guys (or big guys who step out of line with the globalist tyrants' agenda and/or narrative) over trivial infractions instead. Right now, big business is basically an oligopolistic cartel with an army of government enforcers -- not a good situation.
Ostensibly, reason would be against this.
I mean, I kinda understand it. Emergent technology - especially when it's based in environmentalist cultism - hasn't really worked out very well for us to date. (And, let's call a spade a spade: we know with absolute certainty that the WEF is up to seriously no good actual villainy type stuff.)
But - just like there's no reason to be reflexively opposed to alternative energy sources, there's no reason to be reflexively opposed to alternative meat sources. However, there IS a valid argument to be made that the "alternative source" is technologically premature and potentially more harm than good. Just as there's a valid argument that we don't want to hamstring current technology - which we know works - just to try and nurture said alternatives into existence.
This move isn't unexpected by DeSantis - or anyone with a functioning brain. It's a natural extension of, "Hey, before you try to replace our entire power grid with easily breakable sun gobblers and eagle choppers, maybe perfect this technology a little more so that we can be more confident in relying upon it."
Yes, I appreciate that the meat argument is a lot more individualized than the energy argument - but let's also not forget that the energy requirements to produce lab-grown meat are VASTLY greater than that of traditional ranching. Which undermines the environmental argument for it.
As is the market price of it. Which undermines the economic argument for it.
I don't know if an outright ban is the correct approach - but it may well be the only effective means to prevent what the environmentalism cult (whether ignorantly, carelessly, or malevolently) is doing to the energy sector, from also starting in on the food production sector.
I had suspicions about this, so decided to look it up. Sb 1084 is a large bill that has over a dozen changes to laws. The way Emma writes about this as if this was a solitary item in a bill. But it is one part of many changes from licensing to certifications, etc. Basically an add in.
From the article you dont get this fact. There are no comments directly relating to the wide number of changes in the 89 page bill. It is one of the bills we see all the time where random additions are added.
Law here: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/1084/?Tab=BillText
But from the tenor of Emma’s article one would conclude the bill had a single topic. Weird.
I mean I get your point, but why does he have to purposely grandstand on this issue by saying something so dumb?
"Today, Florida is fighting back against the global elite's plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs to achieve their authoritarian goals,"
It's almost like he's not reading from Jesse's script.
Have you ever heard that moron speak before? He stuffs his foot in his mouth more than Trump.
lol won't last 15 minutes in court when it actually becomes relevant. As long as it proves safe, there is nothing he can do to stop it.
"Rational basis" test. It's not quite as tough as it sounds...
This is right up there with banning Foie gras, GMO, or pigs raise in factory farms. It is simple the right's attempt at the culture wars. It is all stupid and the fact is the market is a far better place to settle the matter.
I don't think those are apt comparisons. In the case of foie gras and factory farms, the legislation is intended to reduce animal cruelty. One may argue how true that is - but it's different from banning a product that itself reduces animal cruelty. Both may be battles in the culture wars but the nature of the intended outcomes matters.
I think you are just rationalizing here. The reality is that the market can better sort out what is an is not acceptable. The informed consumer understands that what goes into Foie gras, how animals are raised and how lab grown meat is produced. Let the consumer decide.
I take your point about the market sorting it out - subject to the "informed consumer" caveat, which is why ag-gag laws should be opposed. But I have reservations about how far the market should sort out ethical issues such as our treatment of animals.
I like the idea of producing meat in a “lab” (actually a factory once the tech is scaled up), but not because it may someday deliver hamburger. Think about it: If we come at meat production sideways, then we can end-run the reasons that some kinds of meat are super-expensive.
As it brings production costs down from the stratosphere (and I agree that subsidies are bad policy too) factory meat will challenge the wagyu beef market long before it challenges basic ground round (yes, hamburger arrives first while engineers figure out how to build textures, but even that could be ground filet mignon, not ground-round).
Similarly, factory prices will undercut seafood, veal, duck etc before economical offerings, bringing exotic meats within reach of the middle class. By the time factory meat is cheap enough to compete against chicken nuggets, the poor will already be buying factory prawns and other delicacies.
That kind of explosive diversification and downward price pressure on luxuries is the standard trajectory of free-market capitalism. Florida’s ban is just a typical Luddite reaction against today’s luxuries being mass-produced for the masses.
I think you are right on point with this comment. Engineers will be able to take the genetic material from the best meats and reproduce those meats. Where I think the hamburger comes in is that the large volume users, McDs and the rest will find lab grown meat far more economical and switch to these meats.
I disagree with Florida banning lab meat. I think they should have just taxed it at 1000%.
Where does DeSantaphonius stand on lab-grown beef guns ?
A dry aged GMO sinew-wound marrow bone makes a capital blunderbuss.
Fortunately, a similar bill in Tennessee did not pass and the Tennessee House has sent to "summer study," which is another way of saying it is dead.