Biden Sends U.S. Forces To Protect Israel's Borders for the First Time Ever
Washington quietly funded Israeli-Iranian proxy wars for years. Now American men and women are directly involved.

This weekend's air raids in the Middle East set a lot of records. Iran carried out its first ever direct attack on Israel from Iranian territory, launching an unprecedentedly large swarm of drones and missiles against Israeli military bases. And for the first time in history, U.S. troops engaged in direct combat in defense of Israeli territory.
The U.S. military shot down three Iranian ballistic missiles and 70 drones that were en route to Israeli military bases, officials told CNN. American ships and fighter jets were involved in the operation. Videos shared online also purport to show U.S. ground troops in Iraqi Kurdistan firing antiaircraft missiles. The British and French militaries assisted in the operation, and Jordan reportedly shot down Iranian drones over its own airspace.
Although Israel and its protectors stopped most of the Iranian air raids, Iranian state media has claimed that Israel's Nevatim Air Base was "damaged severely" and put out of service. Israeli army spokesman Daniel Hagari has denied this, saying that Nevatim was only slightly damaged and "continues to perform its tasks." No deaths were reported.
Iran was retaliating for an Israeli attack on the Iranian consulate in Damascus, Syria, on April 1. That attack killed 16 people, including an Iranian general.
President Joe Biden, after pledging his full support to Israel for months, may have finally tapped the brakes. After Saturday's air raids, he told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the United States will not support an Israeli counterstrike on Iran, according to Axios, because Israel already "got a win. Take the win." The New York Times reports that some members of the Israeli war cabinet wanted to attack Iran immediately but that Biden's call talked them out of it.
Publicly, Biden condemned the "unprecedented air attack against military facilities in Israel" and promised to "coordinate a united diplomatic response to Iran's brazen attack." He confirmed that "we have not seen attacks on our forces or facilities today."
Israel's next move—and America's—is anyone's guess.
Although the United States had not been informed of the consulate attack beforehand, Biden jumped to Israel's aid afterward. When Iran threatened to retaliate, Biden promised to grant Israel "ironclad" support and to "do all we can to protect Israel's security." And he had Gen. Michael Kurilla, head of all U.S. forces in the Middle East, fly to Israel a few days before the Iranian retaliation.
Iran and Israel have flung violent threats and proxy attacks at each other for decades. While Iran has armed Hamas and other Palestinian rebels, Israel has assassinated Iranian nuclear scientists and bombed Iranian troops in Iraq and Syria with tacit U.S. support.
The Hamas attacks of October 2023 and the subsequent Israeli invasion of Gaza escalated the conflict across the entire region. Iranian-backed forces in Yemen attacked Israeli shipping, Iranian-backed paramilitaries in Lebanon fired on the Israeli border, and Iranian-backed militias in Iraq broke their truce with the U.S. military.
Israeli leaders made it clear that they wanted to escalate and that they believed they had an American green light. Biden had to talk down Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant from launching a full-scale attack on Lebanon early in the war. But the U.S. president refused to place any actual limits on how many weapons the United States would send Israel or how Israel could use those weapons.
Early in the war, Biden showed that he was willing to put American lives on the line in Israel's defense. Even though his administration insisted that it had "no plans or intentions to put U.S. boots on the ground in combat," Biden deployed two aircraft carriers to the region as a threat to any other country that might join the war against Israel.
From Israeli leaders' perspective, the consulate attack was a win-win situation. Either Tehran would not retaliate, making Iranian leaders look weak, or it would retaliate, forcing Biden to make good on his commitments and bring U.S. power to bear against Iran.
Iranian leaders chose the second scenario, betting that Biden's commitment to Israel was not as "ironclad" as he claimed. Explaining Tehran's reasoning, an Iranian source told the news site Amwaj.media on Thursday that "the U.S. is not ready to go to war with Iran." But although Biden did come to Israel's defense, he appears unwilling to push the conflict any further.
Left out of the conversation entirely were the American people. Congress has not passed a declaration of war against Iran or authorization for the use of military force against Iranian troops. It hasn't even passed the supplemental aid package to Israel that Biden has been asking for.
Lawmakers from both parties have called this weekend for Congress to pass the package, although Democrats and Republicans disagreed on whether it should also include aid to Ukraine.
That wasn't the only way legislators reacted differently to the air raids. Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R–Tenn.) demanded that Biden "launch aggressive retaliatory strikes on Iran." Rep. Adam Smith (D–Wash.), on the other hand, called for "calm and restraint." Without naming Israel or Iran, libertarian-leaning Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.) was more blunt about the stakes than anyone else: "I'm against the next war already."
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Ass a self-proclaimed Glorious Expert on Everything, I firmly declare that...
...I am against war, except when I am snot!
Who’s the tail and who’s the dog?
Israel is committing genocide.
No they aren’t you nazi faggot. And it’s time for you to go. Even the pedophile, and the morbidly obese pedophile hate you. Your odious presence is the one thing that unites the entire commentariat.
So fuck off nazi lowlife.
Jews are committing a holocaust in Gaza. This video demonstrates how they carried it out.
It is the best compilation of evidence to date that October 7 was an inside job coordinated by Israel.
https://richardgage911.substack.com/p/new-documentary-on-gaza-october-7
The video proves that Israel, funded, coordinated and enabled the October 7 attacks.
It shows that Israel opened the gate to welcome trucks carrying Hamas through the wall.
It shows how Israel not only ignored repeated warnings from their many surveillance sources but withdrew all defences from the wall and emptied their military bases just hours before the attack and had ZERO response for more than 5 hours.
It shows and proves that the IDF attacked the concert goers and the kibbutz’s with Apache helicopters and tanks.
It shows that they sacrificed dozens of their IDF forces to blame Hamas.
It shows that only handfuls of Hamas soldiers wandered for hours through the evacuated areas looking for soldiers to fight but finding none.
It shows that the hostages that were taken by Hamas said they were treated well.
It shows that Israel has funded Hamas with billions in cash in suitcases in the backs of cars.
The world has recognized that Jews are currently committing a holocaust in Gaza and are denying it even though they’re on trial for genocide today in the United Nations international court of justice.
Biden is funding the genocide making him and the US complicit. How does that make you feel?
Netanyahu is responsible for telling the IDF to commit genocide by referencing the Jewish biblical genocide against women and children with the story of AMALEK. Clearly inciting genocide. With over 20,000 non combatant women and children intentionally targeted and killed and IDF soldiers on record rejoicing about it referencing amalek, the effect of Netanyahus instructions are clear.
Israeli defence minister Yoav Gallant said Israel was fighting “human animals” and that they will be “starved of food and water” which Israel has done and continues to do.
Amichay Eliyahu, the minister for heritage, who suggested dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza; Israel isn’t supposed to have nuclear weapons. Saddam Hussein was hung for crimes against humanity and he didn’t even have WMD much less threaten to use them.
The country’s mainly ceremonial president, Isaac Herzog, who described Palestinians as “an entire nation out there that is responsible” demonstrates the genocidal intention.
These statements in combination with their actual execution clearly meets the UN definition and criteria for genocide aka holocaust.
The world has recognized that Jews are currently committing a holocaust in Gaza
False
The evidence is irrefutable.
If you can’t refute what you deny, you’re irrational.
Empty evidence is also irrefutable.
Refute this: “”
Or this:
Or this:
Your evidence says nothing about the Israeli holocaust in Gaza or anything else for that matter.
Unless you want to try to demonstrate that it does. Do you fuckwit?
Refuted.
What a weak answer!
It must really suck to have such a shitty life that you think it more important to hate Jews than actually improve your own life.
There is no Israeli holocaust in Gaza. Repeating Hamas propaganda isn't proof of anything.
HAHAHA, you didn’t refute shit!
How exactly are undisputed quotes from the Israeli government, “Hamas Propaganda”?
So, are you like a 15 year old Nazi or a 75 year old Nazi?
Jews, not Nazis, are committing a holocaust in Gaza.
When you say “Nazi”, the world hears “Jew”.
also, he needs to review definitions for 'genocide' and 'holocaust'
The UN definition of genocide is clear and the US is a signatory to it meaning THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO OPPOSE IT. Not send bombs money and troops to support it.
Genocide
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
In your face.
I refute it.
Huh. Not that irrefutable.
refute
/rĭ-fyoo͞t′/
transitive verb
To prove to be false or erroneous; overthrow by argument or proof.
All you’ve proven is that your an idiot.
You didn't refute me or anybody else. Your[sic] anne id10t.
That was the equivalent of you denying the holocaust.
Therefore it is refuted. Your standards.
HAHAHA, you got refuted!
I challenged you to demonstrate that you made a statement to refute, like I have.
You couldn’t, obviously because your statement was idiotic.
In that way, I refuted your feeble attempt to demonstrate that your idiotic statements can’t be refuted.
I’ve made clear statements that nobody here has ever refuted.
If you think you have refuted anything I’ve said, you’ll have to prove more than you’re simply an idiot.
You’ve been ridiculed.
The arab populations of Judea, Samaria and gaza all increased in the last decade (per UN, and Israeli census data). Therefore, the charge of genocide is erroneous. And antisemitic.
Haha misconstrueman, your bullshit just got refuted bitch.
Regarding my question above, I'm gonna go with 15 year old Nazi.
Jews, not Nazis, are committing a holocaust in Gaza.
When you say “Nazi”, the world hears “Jew”.
You must be so upset that Hamas admitted they can't confirm over 1/3rd of the death numbers as any actual person. Or that they admitted 13000 of the rest were Hamas terrorists.
You're a dog chasing your own tail and I hope you do like the mythical Oroboro and eat yourself!
Fuck Off, Nazi!
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Nazi scumbag.
Who’s the tail and who’s the dog?
No idea, but you're the anus, Misek.
We all know that the ONLY reason that Biden got involved was because he can not win this election unless he creates a war.
Biden’s supporting a genocide.
He and bibi are going to swing on the gallows for their crimes against humanity.
WWTD?
What Would Trudeau Do?
Issue a strongly worded statement of support for Iran and then moments later clarify that he meant "Israel". After the inevitable violent burst of outrage from newly arrived Cultural Enrichers, he would quickly declare "both sides" and hint it happened because Israel was racist.
Fuck off, Canadian. Nobody cares what your prime minister would do.
Poor sarc
Pour Sarc indeed.
Sarcasmic: "WWTD?"
You must've been talking about Justin, because just a little while ago you claimed you were here for robust debate and not just to troll "Trumpistas". And who else could you mean?
Or was that that awful Tulpa spoofing you again?
What Would Tulpa Do?
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So is this, then, finally, the eagerly awaited “Drag Queen Spermy-Stormy Daniels Hour” that I’ve heard SOOO much about?
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I am still left wondering…
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Remember to use the spam flag folks.
Just use the mute button and provide a final solution to the Sqrlsy Problem.
Bidenettes will say the darndest things attepting to deflect from the difference in the Middle East today from just 4 years ago.
No Drunky, no one cares what YOU think. Now fuck off back to your refrigerator box. You’re shitting up the comments, again.
You've had a rough and retarded weekend.
How come you bring up Trump in every thread?
Still praying for a TDS vaccine.
hey - you asked
Dress in blackface?
Send Canadian doctors to help the Iranian guard learn about MAID?
No need. The Mullahs and Iran's Revolutionary Guard are already embarked on a course of suicide without any assistance.
🙂
😉
Not give Iran money like Joe did last year? Not have a foreign policy of saying "don't" to American media as the response?
The US didn't give any money to Iran last year.
“Never underestimate joes ability to fuck things up.”
Yep. He made all this happen.
"Iran carried out its first ever direct attack on Israel from Iranian territory, launching an unprecedentedly large swarm of drones and missiles against Israeli military bases."
I get the impression the attack was more a show than anything else. Shouting theater at a crowded fire, as the saying goes. The rockets fired from Gaza during Al Aqsa Flood by Palestinians were much more numerous and consequential. Of course the Iranian attack massively disrupted Israeli society, shutting down air traffic and bringing life in the cities to a standstill, but Israel claims to have neutralized 99% of the attacking force, and report no deaths. I suppose the attack could be seen as a probe of Israeli defenses, but as I say, more theater than a serious attack.
Not mentioned in the article is the Iranian seizing of the Israel linked ship in the Persian Gulf. I think that was more consequential, and if Iran wanted to do more than put on a show with their drone attack, they would have focused the attack in the Persian Gulf where any damage they inflicted would be more severe to Israel, or anywhere else in the world they chose to target.
I get the impression the attack was more a show than anything else.
Yes, countries often fire hundreds of deadly missiles and drones at other nations for show.
"countries often fire hundreds of deadly missiles and drones at other nations for show."
This is exactly my point. The Iranians announced the attack hours before any of the drones got close to Israel. A sincere attack would have required a modicum of stealth and deception - like the operation to seize the ship in the Persian Gulf. That was serious business and not announced ahead of time.
"countries often fire hundreds "
Not true, at least in this case. The article makes it clear that this was the first time in Iranian and Israeli history that such an attack took place.
“The Iranians announced the attack hours before any of the drones got close to Israel.”
When you’re sending hundreds of drones and missiles over hostile Muslim neighbors like the Saudis or Sunni Iraqis and you don’t want them to shoot them down or think your attacking them, you announces these things.
But I’m sure that occurred to you when you came up with your “Iran was being nice” theory.
"Not true, at least in this case. The article makes it clear that this was the first time in Iranian and Israeli history that such an attack took place."
I was being sarcastic, genius. Think about it for a bit.
" over hostile Muslim neighbors like the Saudis or Sunni Iraqis and you don’t want them to shoot them down or think your attacking them, you announces these things."
You should broaden your sources. Reason is not the best. The Jordanians did shoot them down, as did the Americans, French, British, and Israelis. All part of the show. If you think otherwise, fine with me. You don't seem to have put much thought into this, and I'm certain you'll change your mind with the passage of time.
"I was being sarcastic, genius."
Give the sarcasm a rest. Try to be smart instead.
You should broaden your sources. Reason is not the best. The Jordanians did shoot them down, as did the Americans, French, British, and Israelis.
Gee, I mentioned the Saudis and Iraqis who's territory those missiles were traversing for most of their trip and you invoke the Western powers and Jordan instead.
I can't tell if you're being deliberately dishonest or merely retarded.
“I can’t tell if you’re being deliberately dishonest or merely retarded.”
Can’t it be both?
Of course. And throw in some reflexive partisan ideology.
It's misconstrueman, it's obviously both.
"I can’t tell if you’re being deliberately dishonest or merely retarded."
That's because you are determined to put a mal fide reading on every comment I post here. A more charitable attitude would help you. Laying off the silly sarcasm too would help others understand your comments. I pointed out that many of the missiles launched were shot down long before they reached Israeli airspace. I'm not sure how you think this bolsters your case that this was somehow an all out serious attack on Israel, like the Al Aqsa Flood the Palestinians launched in October last year. I'm sure it wasn't and was meant as a show more than anything else, and you've contributed nothing here to convince me or anyone else otherwise. To repeat, think it over, don't simply reflexively dismiss my points, and eventually you'll see the truth in what I write.
You could be more charitable by fucking off and dying, shitbag.
There you go, Man! That's how you mix it up! It throws them a loop too.
🙂
😉
You seem to assume turd, for example, deserves something other than a copy paste; I don't.
Sevo, mixing it up is for the benefit of your mental faculties, not for the trolls and assholes, who are beyond hope.
At least give a preface of why they deserve the copypasta.
"That’s because you are determined to put a mal fide reading on every comment I post here"
Because every comment you've posted here was with mal fide intent. You're a ferocious antisemite who is creating nutty theories in order to cover for Iran and hate on the Joooz.
Imagine being so retarded as to think you could write off a huge attack involving most of Iran's ballistic forces as a friendly warning. Imagine being so retarded as to portray their plea to flyover nations not to counter attack, as a polite heads up to Israel. Your arguments are the distillation of bad faith, you clown.
"Because every comment you’ve posted here was with mal fide intent."
No, only some of them. Simply aks if you can't tell the difference.
"You’re a ferocious antisemite"
No, I'm just a normal antisemite who doesn't like apartheid, genocide, land thieving, or abusive treatment of poultry.
"Your arguments are the distillation of bad faith, you clown."
I asked you to give the matter more time. Come back in a week or so after the initial shock has passed and see what you think. Your emotional gut response is leading you astray. Letting Israel in on an up coming attack doesn't bolster your case. Neither does your immediate turn to bluster and personal insults.
Disagree on most points, but this was indeed for show. They did as much as they could get away with without provoking a response from the US. Or a direct attack on their territory by Israel.
It saved face with their hardliners and body politic but really demonstrates their impotence to the rest of the world. And boy oh boy do they look impotent! Russia and China aren't going to save them like we would Israel. Not that Israel really needs saving.
FFS they announced that their goals had been accomplished while their missiles were still hours away.
Closing the straight is the only power they really have. So on that I agree with you as well. I also expect them to start harassing our navy again with their speedboats.
"Closing the straight is the only power they really have. "
You're preaching to the choir. Save it for those who believe, apparently in all sincerity, that this was an all out attempt by Iran to destroy Israel and exterminate Jews.
"harassing our navy again with their speedboats."
Harassing Israeli linked commercial shipping will hurt Israel more and give the US an excuse to steer clear of direct involvement.
They announced it was over only after the US and other countries assisted in shooting down the attack.
This whole belief that if a country fails in their attack no bid deal is pretty amazing. Israel used 2 rockets on the compound attack in Syria. Iran escalates to 200. So now Israel should be able to fire 20,000 if we are going by this standard.
No, I’m just a normal antisemite
There it is.
Your emotional gut response is leading you astray.
Your antisemitism is leading you into nutty theories about ballistic missile attacks being a friendly warning.
They actually did do some damage to Israeli air bases, and Israel has decided they will respond directly, so if it was intended as just a friendly warning that’s about to backfire.
Please continue your idiocy though, misconstrueman, it amuses me.
"Your antisemitism is leading you into nutty theories about ballistic missile attacks being a friendly warning."
Please read my comments again. Start here:
I get the impression the attack was more a show than anything else. Shouting theater at a crowded fire, as the saying goes. The rockets fired from Gaza during Al Aqsa Flood by Palestinians were much more numerous and consequential. Of course the Iranian attack massively disrupted Israeli society, shutting down air traffic and bringing life in the cities to a standstill, but Israel claims to have neutralized 99% of the attacking force, and report no deaths. I suppose the attack could be seen as a probe of Israeli defenses, but as I say, more theater than a serious attack.
Not mentioned in the article is the Iranian seizing of the Israel linked ship in the Persian Gulf. I think that was more consequential, and if Iran wanted to do more than put on a show with their drone attack, they would have focused the attack in the Persian Gulf where any damage they inflicted would be more severe to Israel, or anywhere else in the world they chose to target.
I'm happy to clear up any questions you might have, but save them until you've had a chance to lose the hysteria.
miscontrueman, a lying antisemtic piece of shit, once again shows with his comments that he does not know his asshole from a hole in the ground.
misconstrueman, you are morally confused. Feel free to support a Judeocidal terror group and profess your neutrality. Dumbass. So not only are you a useless antisemitic piece of shit, you are dumb also. And an asshole to boot.
Hopefully, the ReEcogitationator will approve.
"Feel free to support a Judeocidal terror group and profess your neutrality. "
Profess my neutrality? I've been a supporter of the Palestinian cause since I was a lad. Worse still, I oppose apartheid, genocide, ethnic cleansing, starving or murdering children, and all sorts things you take as a matter of course and puts me at odds with the civilized world.
What's your opinion of homosexuals?
"What’s your opinion of homosexuals?"
Good ones or bad ones?
Why is it "for show" when Iran announces an attack - broadly targeted - but its genocide qhen Israel announces an attack on a specific set of buildings?
"Why is it “for show” when Iran announces an attack "
Good question.
Iran attack - 0 deaths - for show
Israel attack - tens of thousands dead - genocide
I call BS to your entire thought process. The fact is the Hamas is an internationally recognized terrorist organization and was ELECTED by the people of Gaza. The attack on Israel is and was a terrorist attack and targeted CIVILIANS and takin them PRISONER. Many died as prisoners and many were foully treated, women raped and much worse.
You can not hide ten thousand rockets from the population of Gaza, an area the size of Dallas Texas. The PEOPLE knew and wanted this terrorism. Workers allowed daily in Israel from Gaza were spies to gain intelligence of locations of kitchens, common areas, and medical facilities to attack.
Gaza brought this on itself with the help of Iran.
"Gaza brought this on itself with the help of Iran."
Your first paragraph is Israeli/Biden boiler plate propaganda, so let's skip that. Your second paragraph, i agree with. The Iranians were even more surprised by Al Aqsa Flood than the Israelis were, who had reports that something was afoot but chose to ignore them for whatever reason. Lots of countries could be said to help Hamas, not least of all Israel. Also Qatar with money, and even North Korea lends a hand with advice on tunnels, I believe. Iran helps too, of course, but they were never the mastermind and guiding force. That's Hamas. (And Allah, too.)
Yes, countries often fire hundreds of deadly missiles and drones at other nations for show.
... across the intervening neighbors' sovereign territory... for show.
“Hey everyone. We’ve launched a whole bunch of slow moving missiles and drones at Israel. Repeat, they’re in the air and they’re not very fast. You’ve got hours to prepare for this. So get your defenses ready. You know the path they will take and what forces you have in between. Get them ready. Get everyone ready to shoot them down.”
-Iran
Worst sneak attack in history.
No harm no foul, right?
"Sure I tried to stab him in the belly, but it's okay because the knife was stopped by the phone book he had stuffed under his shirt".
“I’m going to stab your belly with this dull, plastic knife in five minutes. Get your phonebook ready. Five minutes start now.”
It was a show. If they wanted to do damage do you think they've have used their slowest and most unreliable weapons while giving advanced notice? Get real.
"I’m going to stab your belly with this dull, plastic knife in five minutes."
Yeah, that always happens. I must've been crazy with my knife analogy
Also the reason those missiles were blocked had nothing to do with high-tech Israeli technology and was just because Iran was being nice.
You're in top form this morning, Mr. Jim Beam.
"and was just because Iran was being nice"
No, it was show business. You don't open with your best number. Save the show stopper till the end.
Because attackers never start with "Shock and awe" or "Blitzkrieg". They just fire a few to see what the other guy will do.
Brilliant.
This was neither shock and awe nor blitzkrieg. Iranian propaganda may portray the attack as such, but it's purely for domestic consumption. Don't be such a stooge as to believe it. I suppose you have other reasons for intentionally mischaracterizing the nature of the attack, like to celebrate, at long last, a glorious victory for Israel that doesn't involve starving and murdering children, for example.
“This was neither shock and awe nor blitzkrieg.”
No it wasn’t, but it was still the best that medieval pariah terrorist state could do, no matter how you try to spin it, antisemite.
"No it wasn’t, but it was still the best that medieval pariah terrorist state could do"
Human animals, right? You don't agree that pariah terrorists couldn't have shut down the Straight of Hormuz had they wanted to do something serious and consequential? Again, I understand your impulse to mock Iranian efforts and pump up a brave victory for the Israelis, but you should be past your emotional reaction by now. Sober reflection on your part will probably change your mind, if it hasn't already.
"Human animals, right?"
Wrong. I know that you're a psychotic fuck but that's a horrible thing to say, misconstrueman. Animals don't fire three hundred missiles at the Jooooz.
"I know that you’re a psychotic fuck but that’s a horrible thing "
I'm a psychotic fuck who says horrible things. I don't know why you bother.
Because I enjoy discrediting midwit politruks who do nothing but regurgitate DNC narratives here.
You’re a stooge. And you believe a lot of stupid things.
How do you characterize the attack? Is there a TV personality or politician whose take you found persuasive? Please share it with us.
Iran who has spent the last thirty years attacking Israel via their Hezbollah proxies, fired well over half their entire ballistic missile stockpile in a single attack and weren't "treading gently".
Is there a TV personality... whose take you found persuasive?
This tells you everything you need to know about mtrueman.
Right. Like the US doesn't do.
You open with your beat shot - always - and if its good enough you don't need a second.
It's violent conflict, not show business.
"It’s violent conflict, not show business."
Zero deaths according to press reports.
Oi! Leave Jimmy alone!
He seems much more likely to sour mash it up out of a plastic bottle, with 'Gentleman' in the name. Or 'Old Crow' if it's a special occasion.
They used short range ballistic missiles as well retard. Those aren’t slow moving. The entire point of the swarm was to try to overwhelm Israeli defenses.
Are you so far gone you now defend Iran?
"Are you so far gone you now defend Iran?"
Even farer goner. Don't get me started on the Houthis and their splendid efforts in the Red Sea.
Worst sneak attack in history.
A face-saving attack designed to minimize conflict.
I know when I fire 300 bullets at the guy down the street it's to cool things down.
You know what else minimizes conflict? Not sending hundreds of weapons into another country.
It's like somehow Buttplug just up and forgot that the Iranians used their Syrian embassy to direct the lobbing of thousands of rockets into by their militias.
What a shitty excuse to give the Iranians.
Just say that they were wrong, you child porn spreader.
Fuck Iran. I'm on the US-Israel side you clown. Israel has to crush Hamas.
But this little exercise last night was just for show.
Nobody conducts live fire for show, you retard.
You are incorrect.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt11001074/
LOL
Ok, you got me there.
Youre using your own ignorance of weapon systems to defend it as show because that is the leftist narrative to defend Joe.
It is pathetic.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying. The TDS addled turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
But in the 21st century, there is no "wrong". Just like "minor-attracted people" we have to accept "missile-prone nations".
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Are you and sarc intentionally retarded. One of the tactics against a defensive system like Israel's Arrow or Iron Dome is to swarm it so they can't take everything down. Just like the US missiles defenses don't work against Russia who can overwhelm the system.
You guys are relying on your fucking ignorance to justify the attack.
"One of the tactics against a defensive system like Israel’s Arrow or Iron Dome is to swarm it so they can’t take everything down."
Evidently the attack was not severe enough to swarm and overwhelm the defenses. This only bolsters my point. Had thousands of missiles been launched as the Palestinians did during their Al Aqsa Flood operation, we'd be talking about a serious attack. A few hundred, and "it's show time, folks!," to quote Rob Schneider in the blockbuster "All That Jazz."
It was done to test the quality as well as reduce the number of armaments for the defense.
So the attack wasn't meant to swarm and overwhelm Israeli defenses. Tell that to Mother's Lament. He's still confused.
If the defense system didn’t work as well as it did would they have hit the targets?
Why are all you leftists so retarded?
Iran doesn't know what the full capabilites are dumbass.
Iran probably had a fair idea of Israel's air defense capabilities. They have been supplying and advising Lebanese militias like the Party of God for decades now. Still, I'm sure Iranian military analysts will pore over the results for any weaknesses they can find. But essentially this was more of a theatrical event for domestic and foreign audiences. Except for the business seizing shipping in the Persian Gulf. That wasn't theater.
Just some “mild , harmless bombing “.
From cultural knife fights to cultural missile fights. It is amazing what the tik tok leftists condone.
"Just some “mild , harmless bombing “.
Just like in the movies. It's all for show. I wrote as much in my original comment. Note, they didn't bomb or kill anyone when they seized shipping in the Persian Gulf. That will do more to hurt Israel, and the rest of the world, if they chose so. It's the oil, you see, life blood of the planet's economy, and much of it flows through the straits of Hormuz only as long as Iran allows it to.
Or - they don't have thousands of missiles and drones they can fire off fast enough.
That must be it. Or they have thousands of missiles and drones but lost the key to the warehouse where they were stored.
Thanks, I had not been aware of that...
More commercial ships should be armed to guard against this kind of crap! Attempt to forcefully board, at your own peril! Talk about the freedom to defend oneself, WHERE is the outrage at commercial ships not being allowed to defend themselves? Maybe someone could make a bunch of money lending arms to ships on the high seas, and taking the weapons back, only after the commercial ships are ready to enter the territorial waters of their destination nation... 'Cause I know, shitloads of nations are all about disarming everyone except their own power pigs...
https://www.npr.org/2024/04/13/1244583830/iran-seizes-container-ship-strait-of-hormuz-israel
So, Iran gave less advance notice of its attack than the Jordanians in Gaza receive for any Israeli action and that is not a humanitarian crisis.
I've yet to see anyone characterizing Iran's attack on Israel as a humanitarian crisis. Air traffic was disrupted and Israelis retired to their safe rooms and bunkers for a few hours, but nobody was killed and according to Israeli sources, 99% of the missiles were neutralized before reaching their targets. You may want to maximize the intent and severity of the attack like Mother's Lament is attempting to do but it's not persuasive.
So if you have worse defenses, you can attack at will? Intent means nothing?
"Intent means nothing?"
Intent means everything. In this case the intent was to put on a show, both for Iran's domestic audience and the international one. I don't know what you think Iran's intent was. You haven't told us yet, have you? Saving that it for later, perhaps?
The show was only for the domestic audience.
This pathetic response after Israel took out their military commanders on their sovereign territory? The international community is embarrassed for them.
Xinhua didn't even report on it.
"The international community is embarrassed for them."
Look at the comments here. They are enraged at Iran's attempt to destroy Israel. Any embarrassment will come, in time, from the likes of Mother's Lament when he's calmed down and realized he's been played for a fool.
That's right, I'm the retard who thinks that lobbing 300 ballistic missiles and drones at cities is small beer because a miraculous piece of ultra-high technology fortunately managed to stop them from killing hundreds of thousands of people... oh, wait.
"That’s right, I’m the retard who thinks that lobbing 300 ballistic missiles and drones at cities is small beer because a miraculous piece of ultra-high technology fortunately managed to stop them from killing hundreds of thousands of people… "
You sound strangely disappointed. If the war goes on long enough, there'll be plenty of corpses for you to celebrate.
It was in Syria where the commanders were killed. Granted an embassy.
lets face it - if this was a serious attempt to do Israel harm then Iran just learned it is in deep deep trouble if any larger hostilities break out with Israel and it doesnt have all its jew hating neighbors signed up to help them.
Russia Today kinda ignores any details of the attack's results while alternatively calling Israel and US each others pawns.
I like to try to read foreign popular news sources to get a feel for where the propaganda is steering us.
Why no US coverage of the Ecuadorian attack of the Mexican consulate?
Attacks on embassies is a tricky subject in America. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Usually best ignored.
Since Iran attacked a US embassy in the late 70s, US should be able to launch at least 200 rockets right?
"Since Iran attacked a US embassy in the late 70s"
You've got a good memory. That was one of the bad attacks on embassies. Maybe even the worst.
"US should be able to launch at least 200 rockets right?"
I don't think that's in the cards. Isn't Biden a not so secret of friend of Iran?
"You’ve got a good memory."
Wait what? Who doesn't remember or didn't learn about the Iran Hostage crisis?
Maybe you are a parody.
Or maybe just dumb as fuck.
"Iran Hostage crisis?"
Isn't that the one where a bunch of students attacked an embassy? That was one of the bad attacks on embassies. Maybe the worst. Here's hoping the next embassy attack will be a good one.
Your comment about embassy attacks being good/bad wasn't clever. Inside jokes that only involve one person aren't funny.
Ah, I get it - attempted genocide is ok when it's perpetuated against Jews is what you're saying.
Are Muslims human?
Yes, but Arabs aren't, which makes for some interesting sorting.
Technically.
Muslims and Arabs are both humans, but humans can be morally deranged and fucked up too.
Human is a pretty low bar. I have been told that normal human nature includes emotional reasoning, extreme tribal behavior, violent outbreaks, and delusional world views.
Now if you want to know if Muslims can be super-human, and generally behave like restrained rational and tolerant beings, then probably not. But neither can most labeled groups.
Don't forget cannibalism.
Ver much so, yes. Have you met humans? They are really good at doing horrible things to each other.
Troops in Israel will be the end of Bidens election chances.
You don’t think it will result in some Trumpian Zionists changing their mind about their orange savior?
Trumpian Zionists
Weren't you just calling them anti-Semites a few weeks ago?
No, but that won’t stop you from saying I did. One thing you can be trusted to do is repeat things after I say they’re not true. Because that’s the kind of swell guy you are.
I'm pretty sure you were. Let me go look for a quote so you can say I'm stalking you when I find it.
He probably did while he was blackout drunk, then forgot. His memory and cognition are compromised from decades of severe alcoholism. And let’s be honest. Sarc was obviously not very bright to begin with. Just like his lord and master, Joe Biden.
Awe, pour sarc.
They're anti-Semitic Zionists.
That's a new one.
Biden is going to fuck this up, and all you can talk about is trump.
Because he's here to troll.
Sarc says nothing of importance anymore, he isn't worth responding to.
And hasn't been, for years.
To quote Biden "I'm going to fuck Isreal like it's my daughter"
Israel needs to start showering when it knows Biden is out.
But Donnie has talked about fucking his own daughter - Ivanka.
You cultists are amazing.
Joe's daughter said he was always trying to shower with her.
Buttplug: "But Donnie has talked about fucking his own daughter"
Even though we all know he never did, and Buttplug will never post the actual quote because it's just a Dad publicly boasting how beautiful his offspring are.
But a pedophile like Buttplug can't fathom a parent boasting about their adult kids looks to an audience, without a prurient interest.
Uh huh. But Ivanka hasn’t said anything about it. Like Ashley did.
Idiot.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
He’s waiting to get Bibi in the Oval Office and corner him like Tara Reade.
Only if he actually sends troops into Israel.
He has not, and you know it.
(assumption: you read the article)
No. No. No. I have it on good authority that boots on the ground in Ukraine is the *only* thing that could cause Biden to lose to Trump. There are either no other
unforeseeablepossible outcomes, or they’re foreseeable but do not lead to a Biden defeat.boots on the ground in Ukraine
Fighting for which side?
The British and French militaries assisted in the operation, and Jordan reportedly shot down Iranian drones over its own airspace.
BIDEN DONE STARTED WORLD WAR 3!
(Breathlessly excited Trump Cultists at wingnut.com)
Tell us again how Biden is a strategic genius giving Iran $6 billion. That “Don’t” on Friday sure was impressive.
Another “red line” situation.
The red line; that's the one that goes to Maryland, right?
again how Biden is a strategic genius
Again? You constantly lie. I have consistently said Joe is “in over his head”.
He is just no pro-Soviet Trump Cultist. That is a low hurdle to clear for most US presidents.
ETA - no one "gave" Iran a dime, you liar.
#Donnie&Vlad-BFF
Biden did. Billions. After Obama ALSO gave them billions. Then reduced sanctions on them.
And define "pro-Soviet" Trump. I'm curious where that laughable assertion hails from.
Liar. They unfroze Iranian funds.
Wait till Donnie "gives" Vlad back his frozen funds (if Russia wins our election in Nov). You will piss yourself making excuses for him.
Sanctions aren't the same as asset seizures, you retard.
Liar. They unfroze Iranian funds.
Ah, so when they gave the Mullahs six billion belonging to the Shah they overthrew a half century later, it was just being "unfrozen".
If you're talking about the money from the 70s frozen because of the hostage situation then yes. It belonged to Iran.
Just because you pull off a successful home invasion it doesn't give you the right to someone's bank account.
As successive US governments argued for decades, the money belonged to the Shah and the Pahlavi dynasty, not the Khomeini Mullahs and Islamic Revolutionary Guard who Joe and Barry gave it to.
It doesn’t belong to the current regime. Case closed.
We all know you’re a child molesting pedophile, and Soros lackey. Must we add Islamic terror apologist to the list?
More anitisemite than Islamist terror apologist.
Why not both?
The monies were STILL owed to the families and the hostages.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a TDS-addled pederast besides.
The 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back.
Obama (and Biden and Clinton) gave billions to Russian proxy states and 'reset' relations with Russia. The Clinton photo-op with the idiot button is still out there.
Observably, the Obama administration (which yes included Biden) could be interpreted as being far more pro-Russian than any administration since the Tsar's were overthrown. The hilarious thing is the missiles, drones, and bombs that Iran sends at Israel were likely purchased and manufactured using the funds that the Obama administration (and Biden) gave them.
You know, just like some of us were saying at the time you abject fools.
Russian proxy states = not Russia.
Who the fuck is a "proxy state" of Russia? I'm calling bullshit.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit, an asshole and a pederast besides.
Nobody believes your bullshit, pedo.
And yet he’ll never stop peddling it.
How many missiles does $6 billion buy?
turd calls someone else a liar?
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Are those the iranian funds that they owe to victims of terrorism from the 80s?
So giving that $6 billion to Iran was because Joe was “in over his head”. I’m pretty sure you were heiling that payoff when it happened last year.
How Iran can use the $6 billion involved in the release of 5 Americans
You can quit lying. Tucker Carlson already has the Secretary of
State gig locked up.
Pro-Soviet MAGA are so predictable.
So the CNN link is lying and so were you when you were boasting about it last year?
He’s too stupid to keep track of his lies.
turd lies. The TDS-addled turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
How are you still pushing the Russia narrative? How desperate are you to deflect from Joe?
Holy fuck. Don't you have anything better that "Donny and Vladdy sitting in a tree..."?
How mature are you?
He's in his 60's, but to be fair he spends a lot of time with very young children.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
“President Joe Biden, after pledging his full support to Israel for months, may have finally tapped the breaks.”
Which breaks did he tap? What was broken beforehand?
More top tier “editing “.
Yeah, pretty sure the word the author was looking for was 'brakes' but spell check won't catch that particular error.
Guess someone didn't go to Columbia?
Biden’s brain is broken. Has been for decades.
“Bidens call talked them out of it.”
Lol. Sleepy joe called from the 20th century and calmed everything down.
Also, if troop usage for border defense is acceptable, why doesn’t that apply to the US?
Our border does not matter when compared to literally every other country on Earth’s borders.
It's almost like the people saying "Borders are just figments of imagination." didn't mean it less in the "We should end all limits on personal liberty for everyone everywhere." sense and more in the, for expedient political purposes some of our laws should apply domestically and others should apply abroad in a very Drittes Reich/Lebensraum sense.
Donnie told his clan to hold off on a border security bill because he needed to demagogue the issue until the election.
That must be why democrat mayors are arguing for tighter restrictions.
Never stop being retarded.
House passes bill rejecting Trump's border wall emergency
Congress to sue to block Trump border wall funding action: Pelosi
The Latest: Dems block Pentagon funding over border wall
Democrats on high alert to block any funding for Trump’s border wall
Old shit. This is 2024 and Donnie wants to demagogue.
Old shit
Hahaha, you're lost without your talking-points cheat sheets.
LOL, no, the Soros-puppeted Dems wanted a shitty deal that wouldn't actually cut back on the border flood. Trump had nothing to do with killing the deal, but that's what the left and center-right have to claim because their agenda was resisted.
Soros-puppeted Dems
Conservative GOP Senator from Oklahoma wrote the bill. You can't lie to me.
Donnie killed it.
Conservative GOP Senator from Oklahoma wrote the bill. You can’t lie to me.
Conservative GOP Senator from Oklahoma got used as mark by Cocaine Mitch to give Schumer what he wanted.
Donnie killed it.
Actual conservatives read the bill, noted how much it would help the left, and made enough noise to shut it down.
HR2 is still available to be passed.
Your lies have no power here, pedo.
Yeah, but at least while we keep him foaming at the mouth here, he can't be stalking kids in the park.
The dem border bill that just legalized current policies? Lol. What a retard you are shrike.
There was no ‘border security’ in that bill you child raping faggot. Not was a de facto amnesty bill with funding for bureaucrats who would be unilaterally empowered to rubber stamp phony asylum claims.
All to accelerate what Biden has already done.
Quit lying, Tulpa.
The National Border Patrol Council — which represents more than 18,000 agents — said the bill would “drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our border illegally and evade apprehension.”
NBC News - and the same council endorsed Donnie in 2020.
4,000 more encounters a day than what even Obama called a "crisis level" is hardly a bill that will drop the crossings, and Biden was allowed to ignore it any time he wished.
That's what your side and the center-right deliberately and dishonestly leave out.
It would drop illegal crossings by making the crossings legal you brain dead retarded fuck.
I’m not Tulpa you dumb bitch. The volition in my screen name represents obvious continuity. This is the third incarnation of my Fudd persona. Tulpa doesn’t do that. Although expecting you, Kiddie Raper, to understand that is unreasonable, as you are incredibly stupid.
And I don’t give a fuck what you’re raving about. I know what’s in that bullshit bill you faggot Sorosites want to pass. So does everyone else here.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
It was a shit bill you lying pedo.
"Donnie told his clan to hold off on a border security bill because he needed to demagogue the issue until the election."
Exactly correct! https://apnews.com/article/biden-border-trump-immigration-9fd40a8ba7096362ca3ff4d810c01b21
Biden determined to use stunning Trump-backed collapse of border deal as a weapon in 2024 campaign
Godspeed to Biden on this one at least!!! WAY too many fuckers like Trump are willing to BREAK things in order to blame their political enemies! Just like Mao Tse Dung-Face!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward
To be fair, if hundreds of drones are sent towards our southern border, with a warning beforehand, Joe might, just might, shoot a few down.
Like how he shot down the Chinese soy balloons?
Will the Chinese soy balloons turn as all into Soy Boys like YOU, Punk Boogers? How large are yer floppy tits by now, Soy Boy Punk Boogers? Do they trick and attract REAL men yet, ye flaming she-male?
Warboners a poppin’!
I say we drop The Dispatch and Bulwark crowds in the middle of war zone, and hope a Scud falls on their heads.
Can we strap them to nukes before dropping them on said war zone?
A couple of cluster bombs would have less fallout.
No need for expensive nukes. They'll be just as dead if they play Slim Pickens strapped to cheap 100 pound conventional bombs.
Send all the democrats. I want to see what badasses all those soyboys really are.
"We will do everything we can" - Biden
Except impose sanctions, and become energy independent; which would reduce Iran's ability to fund the war.
He won't do that.
Or demand Hamas end hostility immediately and return ALL hostages, or face a full on attack by the US military.
He won't do that.
Or tell the democrats to pass Israeli finding bills immediately.
He won't do that.
ETC.
Sorry, Joe. What you are (not) doing is speaking so loud I can't hear what you are saying.
become energy independent
We're more energy independent than with Fatass Donnie, you moronic bot.
U.S. Energy Independence Soars To Highest Level In Over 70 Years
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/05/02/us-energy-independence-soars-to-highest-levels-in-over-70-years/?sh=7cdc3279977f
Is that why gas costs more now?
Demand is up because of a much stronger economy.
Remember, most of us are much better off than four years ago. If by "better off" we mean employed.
But your Cheesy-Poofs cost more too.
Nope. Not gonna stop pushing back against your #DefendBidenAtAllCosts gaslighting. Especially when it can be done so easily with mainstream sources.
Only 24% of Democrats say they are better off financially under Biden, poll says
Hey remember you used that lame Cheesy Poofs line throughout 2022 insisting everything was wonderful?
We knew you were lying then too:
Stocks fall to end Wall Street's worst year since 2008.
I don't want to interrupt your perfectly accurate and appropriate tirade against SPB2 too much.
I just inserted this comment to say "Hi!".
So the 30 million jobs lost in 2020 were all Republicans?
I don't dispute the polls. I just call out dumbasses that don't recall what a real shitty economy is like (see 2008).
2008 was bad. 2020 was bad. Republican presidents had to beg for bailouts.
2023-24 is a fucking bloom in the desert.
So the 30 million jobs lost in 2020 were all Republicans?
No, they were all Democrats, due to wrong-headed Democrat pandemic policies.
2023-24 is a fucking bloom in the desert.
The hicklib always defends his fellow Democrats.
2008, 2020, or 2023? Best year for Americans prosperity?
Be honest for once. Seriously. For once.
That's rich for a guy that was already demonstrated to be lying four times today.
We’re honest. You’re an inveterate liar pushing Soros talking points.
Does he pay you in little boy’s rectums?
The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
2009, 2019, or 2022? Best year for Americans' prosperity?
Be honest for once. Seriously. For once.
You beat me to it.
Aggregate 19% inflation, record credit card debt, foreclosures and repossessions climbing, real wages down 6%
What a booming exonomy?
This is just embarrassing.
You give Biden credit for things being better right now than they were during the uncertain early months of a pandemic / lockdown year.
"Wow! Biden is awesome! There are more major theatrical movie releases in 2024 than 2020! A longer Major League Baseball season too! GO JOE!!!!!!"
Yeah, I did. The question is "Are you better off now than four years ago?"
The vast majority of people are.
The vast majority NOT being non-"Newcomers".
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/job-gains-are-going-to-immigrants-and-keeping-young-us-born-men-out-of-the-workforce/ar-BB1ieibI
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Ok. Let’s try 5 years. Or even 3.
Idiot.
Nope. You saying it doesn’t make it so. All the evidence, and public opinion shows you are full of shit.
Vast majority of people are worse off. Lower real wages. Paying more for necessities. Higher credit card debt. More people working 2 or 3 jobs.
Try again dumbass.
And think of those poor college graduates still suffering from not paying off their student loans.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
“Employed” = more people taking on multiple part time jobs as full time jobs continue to decline. 30% of all job gains are government.
The energy independence observed in the article you cited is attributed to the shale boom from 2005. Energy also includes “green” sources and nuclear power.
We will never produce enough energy alone to power the entire nation. We’re a net oil importer well in 2022. Because oil exports increased thanks to world events, you can create some illusion we’ve become slightly more “energy independent”.
Go ahead, stop importing energy and see what happens. Biden cancelled keystone and won’t facilitate permit approval for drilling. If Trump was still president, we’d be even MORE energy independent now.
What about 5 years ago?
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Senator Rand Paul op-ed: The Great COVID Cover-up: Shocking truth about Wuhan and 15 federal agencies
How vast was the Great COVID Cover-up? Well, my investigation has recently discovered government officials from 15 federal agencies knew in 2018 that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was trying to create a coronavirus like COVID-19.
What does this mean?
It means that at least 15 federal agencies knew from the beginning of the pandemic that EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of Virology were seeking federal funding in 2018 to create a virus genetically very similar if not identical to COVID-19.
Disturbingly, not one of these 15 agencies spoke up to warn us that the Wuhan Institute of Virology had been pitching this research. Not one of these agencies warned anyone that this Chinese lab had already put together plans to create such a virus.
Peter Daszak concealed this proposal. University of North Carolina scientist Ralph Baric, a named collaborator on the DEFUSE project, failed to reveal that the Wuhan Institute of Virology had already proposed to create a virus similar to COVID-19.
And now we know that 15 agencies heard the proposal and when each agency discovered that COVID-19 was strangely similar to DEFUSE’s proposed virus creation, not one agency head stepped forward to warn the public that the virus might be man-made and therefore already adapted to transmit freely among humans.
Not surprising to some of us, Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) was not only briefed on Wuhan’s desire to create this virus, NIAID was actually listed as a participant in the initial DEFUSE pitch. Fauci’s Rocky Mountain Lab was named as a partner alongside the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the proposal.
They released a biological weapon on humanity, hundreds of thousands died freighted and alone, they impoverished millions, and not a single one of them will lose a thing. They'll move on to directorships, quangos, give paid speeches, have a book tour.
federal funding in 2018 to create a virus genetically very similar if not identical to COVID-19.
Mr. “Nobody knows biotech like I do” has blood on his hands then.
Yes, Fauci should be in jail.
Now that he's off the payroll he never thinks his clever burns through. The entire involved establishment was trying to discredit Trump with exactly that “Nobody knows biotech like we do” narrative.
He should be awaiting execution for a few million counts of felony murder.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit, an asshole and a pederast besides.
Maybe Chemjeff selectively nuanced defeatist will throw in the towel on defending these assholes.
Haha. Just kidding. Not happening. Dude is committed.
He'll fight to the death for his narrative until the second the DNC decides to flip flop, and then he'll be 100% in the other direction.
He was already given this information and stated since media didn't find out until now it doesn't mean wet market was less plausible than the lab leak.
It doesn’t matter you all were right, I don’t approve of how you got it right so it doesn’t count, and the people that got it wrong were doing it right, so they’re right.
— Lying Jeffy
And for the first time in history, U.S. troops engaged in direct combat in defense of Israeli territory.
Save the
misinformationlying for the real journalists, Reason. They don’t need your help.Your own fucking link is CNN reporting the Navy shooting down the drones/ missiles
I honestly don’t know to what extent America should defend/fund Israel, if at all. Israel has a highly sophisticated military and an advanced economy and is probably capable of financing its own war at the expense of American taxpayers.
While I believe Israel’s war against Hamas is just, we can no longer overlook the cost. I could use every synonym of “terrible” to describe the horror in Gaza (just as I would to describe the attacks on 10/7), but Israel appears to underestimate the PR victory being handed to Hamas and other Iranian proxies via the massive civilian death toll in the Strip. Any hope of a two-state solution has been tragically destroyed for generations to come.
Although the specter of a wider regional war looms large, Iran would do well to remember that its sworn enemies would very likely win such a conflict. I’m confident America can show restraint and rely more heavily on diplomatic pressure to dissuade Iran, but I’m not certain the Israelis would show similar restraint when faced with this kind of threat. Israel has nuclear weapons, and when staring down a fanatical religious regime hell bent on its obliteration, could very well use them.
While I believe Israel’s war against Hamas is just, we can no longer overlook the cost.
It’s worth it. Whatever it is, it’s worth it. Iran has got to go. It’s been past its expiration date for over 40 years. We’re long past “dissuading” Iran. Diplomatic pressure translates to giving them time to scheme and attack from the shadows. Iran loves American diplomacy. It shows them our belly.
Sure, you can say that the US miscalculated back in 1953. But that doesn’t change the fact that Iran should have ceased to exist in 1979. But instead, we played pattycake with Saddam, when what we should have done was ornament the top of the Washington Monument with Khomeini’s corpse, and gave a century-long menacing stare at Khamenei. Instead, we’ve let that cancer fester for forty years, and all Iran has done since then (and continues to do to date) is plot, sabotage, and murder.
It’s well past time to redraw the maps. Iran should not exist. Anyone loyal to Iran should be put in the dirt. Any refugee of the former-Iran should be carefully vetted and watchlisted, probably for the rest of their lives. Every major Iranian city should be razed to the ground, the oil should be raided, the land (which includes Syria, Lebanon, “Palestine,” Yemen, etc) should be put under Israeli control, and if Russia or China have any thoughts on the subject, we go to Defcon 3.
Simmer down, you sound like a neocon. Jk, I agree 100%.
Someone has to have the stones to win a war eventually.
The regimes of Iran and all the other Islamofascist regimes of the Middle East should not exist, but take it from a U.S. Citizen, Israel does not need bigger borders. The borders we have are a mess enough to patrol and defend.
Also, the LGBTQ of Israel don't need Torqamadas like you as a defender, so Fuck Off!
Your replies aren't even subject related. You've just got a pure hate-on for me personally, don't you Peter Pan.
I honestly don’t know to what extent America should defend/fund Israel
America shouldn't defend Israel or give it one red cent. Instead in can get the fuck out of Israel's way and let it defend itself.
This would have all been over in June of 1967 if the US and Soviets had stopped meddling and let Israel finish the job. But nooo, need to worry about the oil producers and reducing capitalist/communist influence.
From the river to the sea all isralies will be free
When the Zionists say that, they mean the Euphrates river.
Not the Ganges?
How about the Niger?
Only the racist Meir Kahane crowd want that. All other Zionists with sense don’t want an Israel with more borders to patrol. It hasn’t worked well with the U.S.
Based on the original land grant?
On that day, the Lord made a covenant with Abraham, saying "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates". Genesis 15:18
Well, the Jews and Arabs both believe that Arabs are descendants of Abraham's son Ishmael... so prophecy fulfilled I guess.
Wait a sec. Only last week God promised me the same parcel of land. I have it written down somewhere if you don't believe me.
"Israel has nuclear weapons, and when staring down a fanatical religious regime hell bent on its obliteration, could very well use them."
Half the population of Israel are Muslim. Israel's nuclear deterrence won't work on them. It didn't prevent Palestinians from launching the Al Aqsa Flood in October, last year. A military solution, even detonating nuclear missiles across the mid east isn't going to solve Israel's difficulties, neither is Uncle Sam who grows weaker and more exhausted with every humiliating loss on the battlefield.
Have you ever actually responded to what someone actually wrote?
Usually not. However, if I precede my comment with a quote from the original like so,
"Israel has nuclear weapons, and when staring down a fanatical religious regime hell bent on its obliteration, could very well use them."
What follows is my attempt to respond to the quoted material. In this case it was to pooh pooh the usefulness of nuclear weapons at resolving Israel's underlying conflict with the Palestinians. If anything, the Al Aqsa Flood has done more to undermine Israel's deterrence than anything else I can think of.
So, you changed the subject. Typical.
You asked me:
Have you ever actually responded to what someone actually wrote?
I answered:
Usually not.
But by all means, cling to the idea that nuclear weapons are the solution to Israel's troubles. I won't laugh much.
Yeah, you really got Vernon there. He underestimates what a disingenuous asshole you are.
I'll get you too if you don't shape up and start agreeing with me.
I had him on mute for a long time. I had forgotten why.
Israel's Muslim population is less than 20%.
How many nuclear weapons will it take for Israel to rid itself of the Muslims? For a long time now, I've been advising Israel to put aside her fantasies of nuclear annihilation and stick to the old stand bys. Zyklon B, from our labs in Auschwitz, will do the job cleanly, cheaply and humanely.
You are sick.
So you were completely refuted with your bullshit claim and just moved on to more bullshit.
18.1%
Add the Christian Arabs to that and the Israeli stands at 2.1 million people, accounting for 21% of Israel's total population.
Americans often conflate all Arabs with Muslims, not realizing that in British Mandate Palestine and other pre-48 territories that became Lebanon, and parts of Egypt and Jordan, Syria and Iraq, the Christians outnumbered Muslims. Post-48, at the same time the Muslims expelled the Mizrahi Jews, they also got rid of most of the Christians.
From the river to the sea, it's 50/50. Zionists could have stayed put in the West but they thought it was preferable to plonk themselves down among a population of non Jews who resented and hated them. Reap what ye sew.
They're literally from that area and have continually occupied it - like when they were driven out of the Muslim countries around Israel.
Few of them are from that area. Most are of European or North African descent.
Again it’s becoming difficult to ignore mounting evidence that a significant portion of the “trans community” are violent, misogynist and mentally ill.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1779181667715883383.html
Choice quotes:
“if you’re a woman, I will not hesitate to snap your neck”
“if you don’t think I should be allowed to use women’s restrooms because I’m a man, I will come to your house and shit down your throat”
“If you’re a woman, you can get fucked with the business end of the barbed-wire wrapped around a baseball bat”
“Any trans allies at #PrideLondon right now needs to step the fuck up and take out the female trash. Get in their faces. Make them afraid. Fuck them up”
“oh so men aren’t real women?” ya know what’ll be unreal?? Ur pain when my fist meets ur face”
“Stab a local woman” is being sold at best offer in my Etsy shop”
@Etsy “stab a WOMAN today! Remember to twist the knife and then remove it!”
“it’d be nice if there were roving gangs of men beating the shit out of women, but alas, that doesn’t seem to be the case”
@Etsy “I’d stab a woman in the crotch and give them a reason to need a tampon”
Lots more if you’ve got the stomach for it.
To be fair, if you were a pornsick terminal coomer, and destroyed your ability to coom by cutting your dick off, you'd probably have a lot of unchecked aggression, too.
Problem is most of these guys are still swinging dicks.
We could help them with that.
Anybody got a pocket guillotine?
I guess that would be gender affirming. But who's insurance covers it?
Interesting how the spectrum collapsed down into non-metaphorically stabbing women in the cooch. I'm sure the FtM trannies, teen girls in chest binders, think this is the way to attack the issues putting pressure on their lived experiences.
Goddamn! That's all horrible!
I'm a Libertarian who supports Individual Rights regardless of what's between the legs or in the DNA, but Individual Rights do not mean initiated coercion including murder and genocide!
Also, I'm Pan and can be attracted to Trans people, but not to these thuggy assholes!
Criminals like this are why I have a term for the Trans version of Karen and Chad: "Frank N. Furters!"
And I also hold to "Equal Rights, Equal Fights" and these Frank N. Furters who practice their open calls for rape, torture, murder, and genocide might end up getting their asses shot by modern-day Annie Oakleys and members of Pink Pistols who don't share their hatred!
So edgy.
So repetitious.
Oh, so we are back to "words matter" now, then?
Did you hear that Trump said he wanted to be dictator "for a day"? Isn't that horrible?
You’re trash.
Agree Jeff. We should continue ignoring actual actions by Joe and focus on clipped words from Trump answers on CNN instead.
Trump never removed his opponent from a ballot. Team Jeff did.
Trump never used the Government against his opponent. Team Jeff did.
Trump never censored speech. Team Jeff did.
Trump never laid frivolous charges against his primary opponent in an effort to break or imprison him. Team Jeff did.
Trump didn't use the FBI to lie and present documents that they knew were fraudulent to a federal judge in order to get permission to spy on opponents' campaigns. Team Jeff did.
Look where it got him. He lost. How on earth can he expect to win if he's unwilling to play by the same rules as his opponent? It's as silly as calling on an unarmed mob to hang the VP and stop the steal.
Well, except that isn't what he said.
Wow, Buffalo Bill and the girls seem a little fucked up in the head.
Who could have guessed?
Seems like it would be pretty reasonable to shoot these assholes in the head.
Lots more if you’ve got the stomach for it.
I wish I had a quippy, male chauvinist line to throw out here to demonstrate how even pretty ardent male chauvinism/supremacism isn't as violently divisive but, I'll I've got is... damn, that's messed up.
Don't these people have mothers and sisters? Or brothers and fathers with wives and daughters to pound some sense into them? Or is it just "We support you know matter how terrible your decision making gets?" all the way down into the 10th circle of Hell?
American support during the Iranian attack on Israel had a clear operational goal. To protect Israeli airspace from missiles and unmanned aircraft. It also gave President Biden some leverage to tell PM Netanyahu to the win.
An expanded conflict is in no ones interest and Iran's statement that it is satisfied with the useless attack makes that point clear. So, while I would prefer the US to avoid conflict altogether, the fact that our service people had clear objectives, the US involvement is over, and that our involvement may stop or at least slow expansion of the conflict make this acceptable to me.
Mission Accomplished!
"Iran’s statement that it is satisfied"
Oh, as long as Iran is satisfied after firing 300 fucking ballistic missiles and drones at the country.
After all, it's not like they were using their Syrian embassy to direct Hezbollah rocket attacks on Israeli towns.
" Hezbollah rocket attacks on Israeli towns."
The towns have been evacuated. Same with the towns surrounding Gaza. Something like 80% of the inhabitants have been moved to Tel Aviv and are put up in hotels at (US) government expense.
Oh, well that's fine for Iranian Hezbollah to be shooting rockets into Israeli towns then, as long as the population has already fled in terror.
What wonderful chaps they are.
Sad to say, but nobody won a war by being a wonderful chap.
They win by bending over and not responding to ballistic missile attacks, right?
What if the Iron Dome only stopped 90% of the missiles, so thirty rained on Tel Aviv and Jerusalem killing hundreds of people? What if 80% got through? When is it okay to treat an act of war like an act of war and reciprocate?
"What if the Iron Dome only stopped 90% of the missiles"
You're not following me.
A) Iran wanted a show of force with little or no consequence
B) Iran had a good idea of Israel's air defense capabilities
That explains why the damage from the attack was minimal and the death toll was zero. If the Israeli air defenses had failed Israelis would have suffered. I suspect Bibi would be blamed for the fiasco, just as we're seeing after Hamas crossed their billion dollar fences unopposed and wiped out an IDF infantry division. Had Iran wanted to inflict significant damage on Israel, they would have done so in the Persian Gulf, a part of the world where Iran is conveniently located and where a significant portion of Israel's vital oil supplies pass through.
"When is it okay to treat an act of war like an act of war and reciprocate?"
When someone destroys your consulate in Damascus? When do you suggest?
Trueman doesn't know and doesn't care, as long as Jews are dying.
The point is that Iran has indicated they are done and that is good. Their attack did not do squat and they are willing to leave it at that suggests that they as much any other country don't want a wider conflict. Best if things can stay that way.
They won’t.
The point is that Iran has indicated they are done and that is good.
Done what? Done with this missile attack or done firing rockets for decades into Northern Israel via Hezbollah?
Fuck, you're evil.
Kinda like Palestine saying they want a cease fire immediately after they've butchered 1000+ Israelis.
*kills a thousand people*
"Whoa whoa whoa, we come in peace! You guys are the bad ones for not accepting our parlay."
Now do Ukraine.
“the US involvement is over”
See? Parody.
Scoop: Biden told Bibi U.S. won't support an Israeli counterattack on Iran
Biden tells Iran not to launch an attack. They do it anyways with unprecedented firepower. Biden responds by demanding Israel not retaliate and leaks it to the press as a signal to certain voters.
If that’s not a perfect encapsulation of this admin’s FP, I don’t know what is.
G7 leaders today agreed to use all channels of influence on Israel to not launch retaliation attack on Iran now, Bloomberg Business reports.
How’s everyone loving the Susan Rice administration?
Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure if Iran had proxies attacking a G7 nation for decades, then directly attacked it itself after the G7 nation fought back, this "influence" would not be applied.
This guy gets it>
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/read-ludwig-von-mises-motherfkers-brazilian-ufc-fighters-victory-speech-pumps-austrian
“I’m a huge advocate of the First Amendment. Today, of course I want the $300k bonus but they not going to give [it to me] because somebody say, 'hey, this is fucking Disney, you cannot curse'…so I’m not going to do my speech, but...
First off all I love America. I love the Constitution. I love the First Amendment. I want to carry all the fucking guns. I love private property. And let me tell you something: If you care about your fucking country, read Ludwig von Mises and the six lessons of the Austrian economic school, motherfuckers!”
Nick Gillespie responds.
https://twitter.com/nickgillespie/status/1779331619406422353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1779331619406422353%7Ctwgr%5E3d66ac306c8e01097aafc195972ab29039ffd61d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fread-ludwig-von-mises-motherfkers-brazilian-ufc-fighters-victory-speech-pumps-austrian
"read Ludwig von Mises"
Well that's going to trigger ENB, Boehm and Lancaster.
Reason cocktail party,
Bohem: What's up with this boxer dude yelling about Mises? Isn't that like a caucus or something?
Lancaster: Dunno. I think it's like a Ron Paul thing. Ya know the racist libertarians.
Bohem: Well Nick is reposting it and shit. Guess he's stuck in the 80s or something.
Lancaster: Nick's about 2 weeks from a nursing home. Once those fucking boomers die off we decide what's libertarian.
Bohem: Fuck yeah! High Five!
Lancaster: I'm gonna grab another vodka martini. That shit's like 300 buck's a bottle. You ready... Oh fuck. Here comes ENB.
ENB: Hi Fellas! What's up?
Bohem: We were just talking about Kari Lake freaking out about abortion.
ENB: I know, right? What a cunt. Okay see ya later!
Lancaster: She's such a pain in the ass.
Bohem: Yeah but she makes a helluva sammich.
Lancaster: Yeah she's got that thing down.
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Heh.
Wow! If only somebody from the days of Wrestlemania had said this! As popularized as they were by Meat Loaf and Cyndi Lauper, TV stations all over, and "Rawdy" Roddy Piper on They Live, we might be a fully Libertarian society today!
Progs are never actually "anti-war", they are just on the other side.
American Anti-War Activists Cheer for Iran’s War
But then a man stumbles to the podium, wiping sweat from his forehead. He grabs the microphone to announce that the Islamic regime of Iran has launched missiles and drones heading straight toward Israel.
“They believe that they will be in Palestinian—I don’t call it Israeli—airspace between two and four a.m., which means about two to four hours from now,” he says. “In addition, there are reports of drones having been fired on Israel from Yemen and Iraq.”
The crowd, all wearing black N95s, erupts into applause. Someone in the back lowers their mask to send a celebratory whistle soaring throughout the room...
“This is when this country and the world needs us because the United States is going to, quote unquote, defend the criminal Israeli state,”...
After the boos and calls of “shame” subside, Abudayyeh says it is “incumbent” upon Americans to “stop the United States from expanding this war and hitting Iran.”
“We’ve got to be the strong, powerful anti-war movement that we are,” he says, placing the microphone down and exiting the stage.
The crowd immediately began chanting, “Hands off Iran.”
A woman in a hot pink gas mask, wielding a matching neon cane and dressed in a “Protect Trans Kids” t-shirt, throws her fist in the air. Nearby, a service poodle is taking a nap under the chair of his owner, who is wearing a leather harness over his t-shirt. Then the group that has joined here from cities across America—Seattle, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles—cheers and claps in celebration.
"A woman in a hot pink gas mask, wielding a matching neon cane and dressed in a “Protect Trans Kids” t-shirt, throws her fist in the air. Nearby, a service poodle is taking a nap under the chair of his owner, who is wearing a leather harness over his t-shirt."
Pretty much describes Biden's constituency.
"a service poodle... his owner, who is wearing a leather harness over his t-shirt.”
Apparently Tony showed.
[video]
AOC crying after the US approved funding for Israel's Iron Dome in 2021.
The Iron Dome has stopped over 10,000 rockets fired into Israel since October 7th, saving hundreds of thousands of lives.
I'm sure that she is crying because she hates seeing taxpayer money sent to foreign governments and totally not because she's just another antisemite Democrat.
So if you listen carefully to the background chatter in this video, you can hear the speaker referring to "House Resolution 483".
In 2021, there was a House Resolution 483 introduced, but it was never voted on.
There was a House Resolution 483 introduced in 2023 that was voted on, it was:
"H.Res.483 - Recognizing the month of June 2023 as "Immigrant Heritage Month", a celebration of the accomplishments and contributions of immigrants and their children in making the United States a healthier, safer, more diverse, prosperous country, and acknowledging the importance of immigrants and their children to the future successes of the United States."
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/483?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22House+Resolution+483%22%7D&s=9&r=4
So, nothing to do with Iron Dome.
Not sure if this is the "House Resolution 483" that the speaker in the video is referring to, but since in the video they are all wearing masks, it is probably not a pre-2020 resolution. So these are the only two reasonable choices.
It sure looks like this Twitter user is lying to you.
You sure work hard for your fifty-cents. Anyway, here you go, Jeffy:
House approves $1 billion for the Iron Dome as Democrats feud over Israel. - New York Times Sept. 23, 2021
"The vote was 420 to 9 to help Israel replace missile interceptors used during heavy fighting in a devastating rocket and missile war with the Palestinians in May, reflecting the widespread bipartisan support in Congress for Jerusalem that has persisted for decades.
But the lopsided vote came only after days of acrimony between progressives who have accused Israel of human rights abuses and other lawmakers, including party leaders, who said they were appalled and astonished by their colleagues’ refusal to fund a defense system to protect Israeli civilians.
Bitter recriminations over the measure spilled onto the House floor on Thursday, as some progressive Democrats who were opposed called Israel an “apartheid state” and proponents hurled accusations of antisemitism. By the end, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, a vocal critic of Israel who had come under scathing criticism from pro-Israel activists for refusing to back the measure, was in tears after switching her “no” vote to “present.”
If Plug had put Lying Jeffy's level of effort into shilling too, he would have still had a job.
It may well be time to start hunting these fuckers down and exterminating them.
You know a politician is serious when they vote present. That way everybody knows that they showed up.
Participation trophies!
Nice of you to implicitly admit that the New York Times is a more reliable source than whatever bullshit Twitter commenter posted that video. But I thought NYT couldn't be trusted and they are full of lies???? Now you turn to them as an authoritative source?
What is the House Resolution 483 about in that video? What is that video really about?
If AOC cried after this Iron Dome vote, is it because she hates Jews or she was legitimately upset over the result of that vote? If we're going to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, why not AOC?
I know why: Because That's (D)ifferent.
This is a weird way to admit you were wrong and you were ignorant.
Oh, and by the way, in anticipation of the fallacious attacks that ML is sure to raise:
- I'm not defending AOC. She may very well hate Iron Dome, she may very well be an anti-Semite who hates Jews (although I find that unlikely, she does represent urban NYC after all, and there are a lot of Jews in NYC). But the evidence presented in this video for this claim is lacking.
- I'm not saying that this Twitter user is definitively wrong, only that it appears as if this Twitter user isn't being honest. Maybe if we had an extended clip of this interaction we would have a better idea of what this scene is supposed to truly represent.
Basically, Trump defenders like ML get all bent out of shape if you try to even suggest that Trump said Nazis are "fine people" in his remarks after the Charlottesville riot in 2017. ML and his pals will insist that this is a lie, his comments were taken out of context, you should read the full transcript and give Trump the benefit of the doubt in his comments. Well, fair is fair. If Trump gets the benefit of the doubt, then why not AOC?
Youre still pushing the lie regarding fine people despite given the very next sentence dozens of times?
I don't call him Lying Jeffy for nothing.
Hey Jesse, remember back in 2022 when Biden said this:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/07/22/remarks-by-president-biden-in-a-cnn-town-hall-with-don-lemon/
I remember that when he said those things, you all went apeshit bananas claiming that Biden wants to ban handguns now. But if you read his remarks in context, he is talking about so-called “assault weapons”, not ordinary handguns.
So I note that you all love to talk about parsing statements accurately and representing faithfully their full and complete statements, but you only apply that standard to the politicians that you like. You don’t hold it as a universal principle.
So maybe you deserve a taste of your own medicine. Why shouldn’t people run around claiming that Trump called Nazis fine people? You have no problem running around claiming that Biden wants to ban handguns. Isn’t this the standard that you routinely claim that you hold – no tactic is off-limits while your enemies are engaging in the same tactic?
Jeff. I literally give you the exact words from trumps speech down below. Weird you skipped over that post. Almost like you're intentionally dishonest.
Also remember when you tried this Joe gaslighting last time and I gave you multiple examples of his clear speeches in context with links as well as the legislation he was backing from sponsors in the House?
Is this all you do jeff? Try to lie your way out of being exposed? With moronic gaslighting?
How do you continue to push a lie about a well know hoax regarding the fine people? The full speech is linked just below to expose your lie. You've been given this information dozens of times. You are intentionally lying about the speech despite being given the actual speech. Ironically you do the opposite for Joe. Again it is me who provides the direct evidence and words and you whi lies about the direct evidence and words.
here is your dishonesty: in this discussion, *I* didn't claim that Trump called Nazis "fine people". I said that you all get bent out of shape when *others* do it. You demand that others treat Trump with the benefit of the doubt that you refuse to grant to others. THAT is the point I am making.
And you twisted that into a personal attack against me.
Every time that you all get upset when someone says "well, Trump called Nazis fine people", I just smile. Because it is a taste of your own medicine. You deserve to get upset.
Jesse, in that speech I linked to above, did Biden say he wanted to ban handguns? Yes or no?
When does Biden get the benefit of the doubt?
When does AOC get the benefit of the doubt?
Hell, when does Kevin McCarthy or Liz Cheney or Mike Johnson get the benefit of the doubt?
Why are the standards so much lower for Trump? Why does everyone have to bend over backwards to try to demonstrate how Trump isn't as awful as he appears, but every tiny imperfection from everyone else is exaggerated into a mortal sin?
yeah as I figured, Jesse the troll coward runs away. god what a fucking asshole.
"fallacious attacks that ML is sure to raise"
Lazy Jeffy knows that, as always, we're going to poke all sorts of holes in his bullshit, so he's attempting to pre-discredit via prognostication.
ML and his pals will insist that this is a lie, his comments were taken out of context, you should read the full transcript and give Trump the benefit of the doubt in his comments.
Say, Lying Jeffy - was it a lie? Were his comments were taken out of context? Did you read the transcript or even those couple of sentences in the transcript?
Lol. There is even a website put up to stop the lies Jeff and Joe spread.
https://www.finepeoplehoax.net
Jeff tells ridiculous lies as a form of attack. A way to dishearten his interlocutor.
Jeff tells ridiculous lies as a form of attack. A way to dishearten his interlocutor.
confession via projection
Lying Jeffy is pure trash. Fortunately we broke him like sarc, and now he just tard rages and nobody takes what he says at face value.
Jesse could post the sky is blue and he'd post some bullshit to argue it.
I enjoy being Jeff and sarcs number one antagonist. Top of the list.
No lists have been published, so we can’t be sure about that.
You have no proof of that. I'd point to the fact that I stay on mute for both of them that I'm #1.
You're not on mute. Their entire job is to be dicks and make disingenuous arguments to fill up the comment section and displace genuine discussion. They don't mute anyone.
Their entire job is to be dicks and make disingenuous arguments to fill up the comment section and displace genuine discussion.
you are referring to Jesse and the rest of the Mean Girls, right?
It is amazing how so many people call you and sarc out yet you both seem to be deluded as to your own actions.
the only way you can get away with your bullshit is because you have a bunch of cheerleaders here egging you on.
When have you *ever* discussed any issue *honestly* and *in good faith* with someone who wasn't already a right-leaning individual?
You can't because you lack the capacity to do so.
They aren’t cheerleaders Jeff. They’ve just been reading and/or posting here long enough to see what you do and call you out on it too.
you enjoy being a Grade A troll?
Except I dont troll. I just counter your retarded sophistry and your leftist gaslighting. And it makes you fucking angry.
no, you troll. you immediately turned my comment about anti-war libertarianism into a false personal attack against me regarding St. Ashli Babbitt. that is trolling.
Well, that's probably because Trunp didn't do that.
“If you try to even suggest that Trump said Nazis are “fine people” in his remarks after the Charlottesville riot in 2017”
Maybe because it’s so not true that even liberal fact checkers have admitted it?
Didn’t Trump make a peace deal with Iran and the UAE in 2020? Didn’t he also de-escalate the war in Ukraine and refuse to engage in Syria? Now we have a warmongering president that was clear in Foreign Affairs about his plans prior to his presidency, and we’re surprised by the outcome?
Yes, but Joe is an elderly well meaning person.
According to Reason editors it was reluctant but strategic. WW3 is just an unfortunate byproduct of adults in the room. As long as the populists are quashed it's all worth it.
"As long as the populists are quashed it’s all worth it."
They're very icky.
"Didn’t Trump make a peace deal with Iran and the UAE in 2020"
It was a peace deal between Israel, the UAE, Bahrain and Morocco. Oman was going to sign but balked when Biden took over.
Iran wasn't involved, and even though Biden gave them $6 billion of the former Shah's money last year, they were still firing rockets into Israel via their militias every day.
How many missiles would it take to get from the river to the sea? I'm beginning to think that this whole thing is a coordinated PR stunt designed to cover everybody's domestic political ass. Israel "takes the win" with the magic dome, Iran demonstrates their "shock and awe" with lights on every drone and missile, while Biden lectures Bibi but gives him military support. Win, win, win. But Biden can't win this one in Dearborn or with the pink haired nose ring class.
So what is the libertarian rationale for an anti-war position?
My reason for being generally anti-war is because war is the largest mass violations of liberty that one can possibly imagine. It can only be justified in stark utilitarian terms - the alternative to war would have to be far worse. So defensive wars against aggression would be justifiable, because the alternative is conquest and/or annihilation. All other wars, however, deserve very careful scrutiny in order to pass libertarian muster. War or war-like actions for the purpose of "making a point" seem incredibly dumb, whether it is Israel attacking an Iranian embassy, or Iran sending 300 drones to Israel (that are easily shot down).
Youre not libertarian. Stop pretending.
Murder by the state is also a gross violation. But you support the state killing a woman on J6 for entering a public building. For trespassing.
Need your quote?
In Jeffyland trespassing is a far worse crime than burning down laundromats, churches and courthouses, or looting a footlocker... until the moment a Republican does it.
Murder by the state is also a gross violation.
So you're opposed to capital punishment now? Didn't think so.
But you support the state killing a woman on J6 for entering a public building. For trespassing.
I see, so you are now opposed to officers using force to defend themselves or the property of others. Who knew you were a "defund the police" type.
Look at jeff try to flip it around.
Force such as killing a woman for trespassing. You actually double down jeff? Lol.
How far you fell from unmarked vans being the worst crime the police ever made to applauding and condoning murder for trespassing.
Almost like you have no principles.
yeah you cannot stand having your own statement subjected to scrutiny. When you wrote "Murder by the state is also a gross violation" you squirmed when it was applied to capital punishment. Because you very much do support capital punishment and don't really care if the state murders people. It's only when an officer of the state kills someone on YOUR TEAM that you get upset, and in this case, even when that person is the *aggressor* and the officer is acting in self-defense.
You are an unprincipled troll. Come back when you actually mean it when you say "murder by the state is a gross violation of liberty". You don't.
Jesse will take the “defund the police” pose when it’s HIS TEAM on the receiving end of state violence. But when it’s everybody else, then fuck ’em all, who gives a shit what happens to them.
Shorter Jesse: "I have no principles, my team comes first and everyone else can go fuck themselves"
Nobody believes you're a libertarian, Fascist Jeffy.
Israel didn't attack that military compound hiding in an embassy to 'make a point'.
The Iranians responded to do that.
'After Saturday's air raids, he told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the United States will not support an Israeli counterstrike on Iran, according to Axios, because Israel already "got a win. Take the win."'
What would Hunter do?
What would Hunter do?
More cocaine?
His sister in law?
¿Por que no los dos?
His niece.
House Speaker Mike Johnson says he will push for aid to Israel and Ukraine this week
They must have pictures of him banging a goat.
A billy goat.
At the point you're fucking goats, does nanny or billy really matter?
What is a nanny goat?
Female goats are called Nanny goats. Male are Billy goats.
I don't know what to call the ones that identify as gender queer otherkin or whatever the fuck, but I'm not a biologist.
Dead kid.
Probably completely innocent, but the story about his adopted (?) son is a bit of a head scratcher. You can bet it’s been thoroughly investigated by the agencies.
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-johnsons-adopted-son-speaks-out-1840867
I am disheartened, but not surprised, that the US Government is defending, not condemning, Israel for bombing the Iranian Consulate in the first place.
Why? They've been under attack by Iran's surrogates for decades. A consulate is not off limits when it's being used as a base for aggression.
Because attacking an official diplomatic building is a violation of international law, perhaps?
You mean like the Iranian attack on the Israeli embassy in Argentina in 1992? Or the Iranian attack on the Israeli embassy in Azerbaijan last year? Or the attempted Iranian attacks on the Israeli embassies in India, Georgia, and Thailand in 2012? Or the 2020 Iranian plot to attack Israeli embassies in Europe that was thwarted by Mossad?
attacking an official diplomatic building is a violation of international law
Please link to the law you are referring to.
Calling Iran Israel conflicts proxy wars is anti-Semitic. This is no proxy war for Israel it is a struggle to prevent another Holocaust. And many commenters here want one.