Civil War Is a Brutal, Intense No-Sidesing of American Political Divisions
Alex Garland's latest post-apocalyptic thought experiment is a war movie without a take.

It is at least a little bit ironic that a movie titled Civil War, about a broken America at war with itself, is designed in a way that ensures that it will be divisive. For myself, I found it stirring, stunning, and cunningly crafted. It's a hell of a movie, and with some caveats, a remarkable feat of filmmaking.
But there is no doubt that it is very much a provocation, and it provokes as much by what it leaves out as by what it includes.
That's because Civil War is a political movie with no overt politics. It's a war movie in which the nature of the dispute is wholly unclear. It's a movie about journalism and journalistic ethics in which the media as we know it is a hollowed-out shell of itself, almost an afterthought. It's an of-the-moment, extrapolated-from-the-thinkpieces movie about a polarized and divided country that refuses to either explain the causes of that division or propose anything like a solution. If you're looking for a headline, a diagnosis, a lead, a thesis sentence, a compact Tweetable lesson, a talking point for a cable news roundtable, you won't find it. Civil War is designed to leave you feeling empty, exhausted, and adrift. It's a war movie without a take.
Written and directed by Alex Garland, the writer behind The Beach and 28 Days Later and the mastermind behind Ex Machina, Annihilation, and the still-underappreciated Devs, Civil War is not quite a science fiction movie, but it bears some of the same genre hallmarks. It's a dystopian thought experiment about the nature of humanity and morality in a world where the rules and conventions that are usually taken for granted have broken down.
As with those earlier works, what Garland posits is that the bonds of civil society—the customs and expectations and hidden social rules that ensure that most people act with something like decency and respect toward each other—are far more fragile and contingent than we think. Civilization, in Garland's stories, does not uphold itself.
When the movie begins, the American civil war is already well underway, to the point where it's almost taken for granted.
The Western Forces (WF), a coalition made up of California and Texas, are making their way toward Washington, D.C., where a president (Nick Offerman) who stayed beyond his second term in office remains. A third faction, the Florida Alliance, is also in play, perhaps in alliance with the WF, perhaps with its own goals. But the nature of the conflict, and the backstory, remains murky.
Garland's script plays coy on what seem like crucial context questions, briefly referencing, for example, an "antifa massacre." But wait, was the massacre against antifa? Or by antifa? If you're looking for answers to questions like what are the precise political aims of the factions? you won't find them. It's war. It's complicated, and it's ugly. Mostly, it's about staying alive.
Or documenting the brutality. The film's protagonists are a quartet of journalists: There's famous photojournalist Lee Smith (Kirsten Dunst) and Joel (Wagner Moura), a writer, both of whom work for Reuters, plus Sammy, an older, heavier journalist who walks with a cane and works for "what remains of The New York Times." And then there's Jessie (Cailee Spaeny), a young woman who idolizes Smith and who talks her way into a car with the other three. They're heading from New York to Washington, D.C., which thanks to the dangers of war, has become an 800-mile trip, to see what happens when the WF finally breaches the White House.
What follows is a taut, terrifying, increasingly surreal journey through a war-torn, quasi-apocalyptic America where gas station attendants hang looters and scenes of holiday cheer are marked with dead bodies. The quartet of journalists isn't there to stop the war or change its course. They're just there to witness what happens, to record it for others to observe and decide.
Garland's movie shares the same ethos. It's episodic, fragmented, essentially a twist on the road movie. We see bits and pieces of the war-torn landscape, and watch as the journalists participate in firefights and capture no-context images of desolation and destruction. But there's never a macro view. War, the movie suggests, can only be experienced in fragments, in moments, in scattered stories that don't always add up to something elegant and coherent.
Jessie, the youngest of the bunch, initially wonders if they can make a difference somehow. She wants to be a force for good in a landscape marked by atrocity. But she is warned off by the older, more cynical journalists she's traveling with. Their job isn't to alter the trajectory of the war, just to capture it. There's a brutal inevitably to their work, a sense of cosmic fatalism.
With Civil War, then, Garland is not asking the questions you might expect from a movie like this: Why are Americans fighting each other? Who is right on the issues, on the merits? The movie makes a dramatic case that the issues, the merits, the why of it all are mostly beside the point when bullets are whizzing by one's head.
No, Civil War is interested in other questions: What would it feel like to live in an America upended by violent conflict? What would the consequences be? How would the conflict play out in the towns and on the roads of the American East Coast? Because once a nation has arrived at the point of a war, the movie seems to say, the why of it all, the who's right? becomes irrelevant. All that's left is the violence.
Some viewers will no doubt cast Garland's choice to skirt contentious political issues as a dodge, a cheat, an unwillingness to confront the issues or offend certain parties. Media critics will gripe that his movie takes the View from Nowhere, that it is ultimately an extended exercise in bothsidesing America's political divisions.
But I found the movie's refusal to participate in that sort of easy partisan debate not only refreshing but clarifying: It's not bothsidesing American politics so much as no-sidesing an ugly and horrific conflict in which no one comes out with the moral high ground.
Civil War isn't an op-ed in movie form. It isn't a viral clip about how the other side are the real fascists. It's not a sick burn or an empty boast to retweet on social media. It's a movie about what happens after those arguments descend into prolonged violence. Because when that happens, there are no good guys, no winners, no sides worth taking. You can only watch in horror, in scattered bits and fragments that don't quite add up, and then decide for yourself.
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I got the skinny from Alex Garland himself! The REAL reason behind all of this fighting and killing in this "Civil War" is over this: Should the toilet paper roll on the wall be mounted paper coming off of the TOP, or off of the BOTTOM of the roll?
Hey, which side are ye ON, damn-shit!!! If vaccines and Drag Queen Spermy Daniels Story Hours can serve ass the basis of tribal fighting, then why SNOT toilet paper rollers?
Over the top. And I will fight to the death anyone who disagrees.
Not really, but it is the better option, IMO (the toilet paper alignment, not the fighting to the death part).
TEACH the controversy!!!
https://www.reelpaper.com/blogs/reel-talk/toilet-paper-over-or-under-the-toilet-paper-roll-debate#:~:text=in%20public%20restrooms.-,When%20the%20toilet%20paper%20roll%20is%20hung%20%22over%2C%22%20the,reach%20for%20the%20toilet%20paper.
I did think of the "cats" angle... Our 2 cats have never become addicted to un-ravelling the TP. "Over the top" for the win, then, IMHO!
Well anyway, I am still wondering if TP will ever "go tribal"... Tell me about tribal vaccines 10 years ago, and I'd have told you that you were crazy!
… what Garland posits is that the bonds of civil society—the customs and expectations and hidden social rules that ensure that most people act with something like decency and respect toward each other—are far more fragile and contingent than we think.
Chanting “Death to America” in Dearborn Michigan is cool though.
There will always be some people who seek to exploit the emotions of others in order to gain personal power for themselves. There will always be people who feel so strongly about a particular issue that they lose sight of the larger context of their advocacy and the irreparable damage it may do to the social "fabric." The only hope for any society is that the vast majority of people are not swayed into overreacting or joining into a game of tit-for-tat that gradually spirals out of control - much like the one we seem to be in currently.
The only hope for any society is that the vast majority of people are not swayed into overreacting or joining into a game of tit-for-tat that gradually spirals out of control – much like the one we seem to be in currently.
That's not how the dialectic works, though--it's done by acting in a provocative enough manner that you create a self-fulfilling prophecy of the oppressor oppressing you, so you can use political violence to help bring the communist revolution about.
This is an important and intriguing point. Of course, it DOES matter how the civil war started and which side was right or if both sides were wrong. It is not necessarily "anti-war" to want to try as hard as possible to avoid civil wars right up until the last possible moment. When I was younger, I used to consider myself to be some form of pacifist, in the sense that war was NEVER a good thing. As I became older and (hopefully) wiser I started to realize that pacifism was a guaranteed way to invite conquest and abuse by non-pacifists. I became convinced that SOME things are important enough to defend with one's life and that war to defend oneself against military invasion or attack was justifiable and justified; and that preparation to be able to defend yourself could and frequently does actually prevent the need to fight wars. If people watching this movie conclude that war - all wars - are horrible and should be avoided as much as possible then I believe it will have served a useful purpose. If people conclude that all wars are bad and that it doesn't matter what started the war or who was right and who was wrong, then it's a misfire. If people fail to develop a strong sense of right and wrong and the willingness to stand up for the right, then meaningless civil wars may be inevitable.
A civil war is preferable to democrat hegemony. Seriously, would you rather fight for your freedom, or live under woke Stalinism?
If there is a civil war it will be sort and the Left will lose immediately. The second amendment ensures this outcome. I guess Democrats can call their lawyers.
You seem to assume it'll be fought with guns. What if it's fought silently and stealthily with poison?
Sure they will. You assume a lot. What if the opening salvo is cops knocking on doors and arresting gun owners who don't give up their guns. You're willing to shoot a Democrat, what about a cop?
^THIS. Will the left ever give up it's 'Slavery' concept.
They managed to deceive the public by using words like 'equality' but the foundation of taking labor they didn't *earn* is still their manifesto.
In the big picture, it absolutely matters what started the war and what's being fought over.
There was an interview with Garland in which he said that he really just wanted to tell a story about the journalists passing through a world in which this was happening. He didn't get into whatever motive he might or might not have had for wanting to depict it happening in the United States (maybe just to be able to have everything plausibly happening in English?) when there's any number of places in the world where the overall level isn't far off from what's depicted in this. In that regard, I think the movie actually accomplished what it set out to do.
The choice of having CA and TX make up one faction together was supposed to make the premise "non-partisan" and establish that the whole issue was some bigger principle. The problem there is that anything "big" enough to get CA and TX to "team up" would have to have been big enough to have put at least 35-40 additional states into that coalition, and since so many of the military vehicles in use by the "western alliance" have US Army unit insignas, and the fact that at the time the movie is set, the "front lines" are well into Virginia and advancing on DC (being defended by a last few "holdouts" and Secret Service who apparently chose to abandon the oaths they took to protect the Constitution from a President who's taken a 3rd term of office apparently by force) it would seem that at least some of the active military also turned against their invalid "commander in chief" as well.
It takes some work to ignore the "forest" with this movie because it's definitely somewhat preposterous, but if you can the point of it is to tell the story of a handful of "trees" and it's as effective as most of Garland's other work in that regard.
Bleah. Sounds like the sort of thing that is systematically designed to leave an unsatisfied audience behind.
I mean, sure INVENT some new conflict if you must, to avoid taking sides in current conflicts. But there has to BE a reason for the conflict! Movies where the characters lack any discernible motivation suck.
You could have it be over the President's refusal to allow a new election, and be vague about his party. You could have the NSA taking over through a campaign of blackmail. You could invent all sorts of reasons for the conflict.
But there must BE a reason. Hard pass.
I haven't watched the movie, but it seems to me, from everything I've heard, that it's premised on a Trump-like president played by Nick Offerman. He refuses to leave the White House after his second term. I've hear the left constantly claim Trump won't leave after his second term if he's elected, destroying "democracy" in this country. To me that seems like the movie is trying to bolster that paranoia about Trump, in an effort to convince people not to vote for him in Nov. So I don't see how this is a completely apolitical movie, as Suderman claims.
Then again, I haven't seen the movie, so I could be completely wrong about this.
No, you're right, the POTUS is obviously supposed to be Trump. Timcast IRL went through a spoiler version of it.
And yes, the POTUS is the bad guy.
So no, this isn't apolitical. It's a movie about what the Left thinks Trump will do and their fantasies about what they'd do about it and to him.
I regularly watch Timcast IRL (unless Libby is on--I can't stand her constant interruptions to interject banal comments or to engage in logical fallacies) and watched last night. I had already heard that Offerman's character was an obvious caricature of Trump, but hearing last night that the portrayal also uses some of Trump's mannerisms underscored that.
Heard that this morning. It sounds like it is overtly political and very blatant in which sides it supports. They might not delve into ideology, but from the sound of it the movie is supposed to make you side with the left-wing agitators and aggressors. Also, Suderman is retarded for pretending that modern journalism isn't a bunch of dumb people pushing propaganda to trick the public and increase their own prestige/power
Seems TDS is raging still which is odd since Biden has been slapped down by SCOTUS over foisting the student loan debt on us but said screw you and keeps trying to foot us with the bill for endless women's studies degrees. Biden is the real dictator and his actions have proved it from refusing to enforce US Border laws to rule by dictate using the Deep State.
The GOP and Dems both predicted Theodore Roosevelt would declare himself Czar if nominated for a third term. Before that, Republicans swore Bryan would do the same if elected in 1900. There's even a book about it online, by the author of Little Baron Trump stories.
The left continuously claimed that trump would have to be forcibly removed from the White House after his first term if he lost the election, and they've also chosen a "take" on the riot of 1/6/21 that they think proves they were right.
Of course they've also both insisted that "election denial" is in and of itself seditious while continuing to deny the validity of nearly every outcome in which their party doesn't come out victorious; along with a raft of rationalizations why their opponents are so singularly evil and inhuman that the only reasonable conclusion is that they "can only win by cheating".
Offerman's screen time is mercifully short in the movie, which is both good and bad. I'm a fan of his in general, both as a performer and in a lot of the non-political parts of his world-view; his book "Paddle Your Own Canoe" could almost convince a reader that the author is more libertarian than leftist, even though he's in many other ways as deeply "progressive" as most of his professional peers in "the business" seem to require for social acceptance anymore. He had years to flesh out the character of Ron Swanson into something more than the caricature of a non-statist which probably amounts to the limits of the imagination of a standard-issue NBC writers' room (where diversity means a variety of levels of "melanation" and gender identity in the faces covering the monolithic Ivy League-indoctrinated hive mind that's been deliberately cultivated, and divergent viewpoints are excised before they get in the door), but in this movie was likely both written and directed to stick to the caricature of the "bad orange man" with the only thing missing was a mention of the President's twitter output as evidence of his lunacy.
The fact the wokies at the AV Club are praising it is a pretty good indicator that the "no-sidesism" cited in the article is little more than a Maoist unity-criticism-unity tactic.
"To elaborate, it means starting from the desire for unity, resolving contradictions through criticism or struggle and arriving at a new unity on a new basis"
The fact the wokies at the AV Club are praising it is a pretty good indicator that the “no-sidesism” cited in the article is little more than a Maoist unity-criticism-unity tactic.
Well said.
All the way down to Suderman's piece pondering "Does the term antifa (lower case because Antifa isn't a proper noun, just a regular noun like an apple or a car... an antifa) massacre mean antifa did the massacring, which the media would totally report as a massacre if such a thing were to happen, or that antifa got massacred, which again, the media and or the government wouldn't collude to portray a banal case of civil unrest or even a blatant case of self-defense as a massacre?"
JFC.
For a long time my stock answer to the question (on Quora for instance) of what caused a particular war, any war, has been, "Hotheads." I still believe hotheads have been the cause of every war, but since watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxdKvPcov98 (before the takedown — interesting case) I now know where the supply of hotheads comes from. Excellent vid even among his, which are generally good.
The opium wars were caused by prohibition. These also include WW1 (as the Hague convention gathered signatures during a Balkan glut) and WW2. Thanks to Bert Hoover's Moratorium on Brains and simultaneous League Narcotics Limitation Convention helping Germany's dope trade competitors, Hitler was financed and elected inside of 2 years beginning july 1931. It is impolite to mention France's use of Vietnam and Britain's use of India and Burma to make dope in competition with Germany and the Balkans', so the subject is unmentionable. But the facts never went away, and all recent Crashes were prohibition-related.
No. They could all have been making money instead, but for hotheads.
Lies start wars. "Remember the Maine!" Which wasn't attacked, it had a boiler blow all by itself. "The Luisatania" which was carrying arms for the British and was thus a legit target but was played up to get the US into WWI. Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin... the list of lies goes on and on.
I haven't seen this yet, but I snorted my coffee at a Texas / California alliance.
It's a good idea. Keep them politically neutral.
I'm reminded about how Chris Rock put a picture of Reagan in his office in Head of State just to confuse people about the political party that he was running for.
The problem with the premise of an alliance between TX and CA is that about the only thing the leaders of both states agree on is that the other state has no business remaining as part of the USA, and shouldn't be allowed to send a congressional delegation to DC or have any electoral votes.
The idea that something could be "big enough for those states to set aside political differences" as the ignition source for an actual Civil War might be hypothetically possible, but anything that big would have also brought in every state between the Mississippi River and the Pacific Ocean as well as at least half the States east of the River into that coalition.
A President claiming a 3rd term might make that cut, but it would have to be a GOP President for CA to take umbrage (which then puts the ball into the court of the "red" states as to whether or not their leaders have actual principles); the lemmings in the electorate here will re-elect Biden's corpse as many times as they're able to list it on the ballot as a Democrat, and if a Dem Incumbent were to call off the election altogether more than half the voters and 80% of the politicians in CA would see it as merely eliminating the danger of the GOP somehow managing to steal another Electoral College victory rather than leaving the result to the popular vote outcome (which is virtually foregone because of the millions of extra Dem votes that L.A. County has become a reliable source of whether it's all above board or not)
It looks like Hollywood have learned some lessons - they are finally realizing that even though they lean wildly left, the US audience doesn't, and that's why so many woke films have flopped.
On other hand, they can't stomach taking sides with the political right, so they avoid taking sides altogether. It's a take, and I respect that. But I do find it hard to believe Texas and California would be in some kind of alliance, not just because of political differences, but they don't have a lot else in common. The two states don't share a land border, they border two totally different oceans, and their economies are based on different things.
Unless the president staying in office pisses off both Republicans AND Democrats.
Or they go with the premise that one of the states “flipped” after his election.
The only way that happens is if a Libertarian is elected President. Then fuck yeah California and Texas would become allies. Both major parties would go ape shit.
Well, in that kind of scenario Arizona, or at least the urban areas and Indian reservations, might go along with California, along with Seattle, Portland, and the Colorado Front Range. But there's no way in hell New Mexico would ever get in any kind of alliance with Texas; that's a hate that goes back generations.
And looking at the alliance map, the movie is obviously trying to have its cake and eat it with the Trumpy president and Jesse Plemons playing a redneck enforcer, but having the states of the upper Mountain West and upper Great Plains ally themselves with the commies in Seattle and Portland, as opposed to simply hitting those cities with the ICBMs in those states–much less Texas and California being allied.
Yeah, despite my post below, sum total we're all being too generous.
The "They Live!" moment is when Suderman said "But wait, was the massacre against antifa? Or by antifa?" like we didn't all live through "mostly peaceful protest" and "insurrection".
Offerman is invoking Ron Swanson is invoking Donald Trump. CA gets paired with California because Garland knows absolutely dick about any culture outside his own bubble, is struggling to avoid the term "Latinx", and needs at least one Coast to be the good guys if Ron Swanson-Trump is the evil dictator serving their third term on the East Coast.
They didn't learn dick. They just dialed the insanity back from 11 to 10 to make it seem like they're being more reasonable.
Without having seen the movie, I can't tell you if they've learned anything or not.
On the one hand, it could be a convenient euphemism to ingratiate ideas that have been in American subculture (and rather specifically this genre) for 40+ yrs. to cloistered, white, affluent, liberal sensibilities. Ideas like Aztlan and The Reconquista. Ingratiate them without getting the "EVUL WHITE ADJACENT KRISCHUN SOOPREMACYST!" label slapped on them or their work.
On the other hand, it could be a voice still trapped inside the the cloistered bubble that's completely clueless as to any sort of reasonable ties between TX and CA other than, "Uh, they're both in the Southwest?"
Ah, another altruist struggling to invent a distinction between altruist nationalsocialism and altruist international socialism. Both value the initiation of force above life itself.
The POTUS is obviously supposed to be Trump. Timcast IRL went through a spoiler version of it.
And yes, the POTUS is the bad guy.
So no, this isn’t apolitical. It’s a movie about what the Left thinks Trump will do and their fantasies about what they’d do about it and to him.
(This was a reply to someone else, but I realized it belongs here too.)
It is a pointedly political movie.
The president is Trump, all the bad guys are rednecks or racist or right wingers, all the leftists are portrayed a politically neutral, as centrists.
The people whining about 'incoherence' wanted the movie to be even more explicitly left wing warporn.
The president is Trump, all the bad guys are rednecks or racist or right wingers, all the leftists are portrayed a politically neutral, as centrists.
Sort of like how leftists immediately blurt out "I'm independent!" when you call out their blatant left-wing partisanism.
post-apocalyptic
I do not think this word means what you think it means.
But wait, was the massacre against antifa? Or by antifa?
Fuck you Suderman. I hope somebody mostly peacefully kicks you in the nuts so that all of us can stand around entertaining ourselves by pondering "Was it their toe or Suderman's testicles that got massacred?" artfully.
You fucking dickwad.
Just saw the movie, this review is spot on. Forget all the MAGA comments, this isn't about Trump. The President has literally a bit part in this movie. He's a cardboard character, things happen TO him, he doesn't initiate anything.
The movie is about civil war, its effect on people, places, and the press. The battle scenes are intense. Seeing a wartorn US is difficult. Knowing that there are crazies out there, and if they get access to military hardware then all bets are off, is sobering.
Best line in the movie is, "[Don't shoot], I'm an American." "Yeah? What kind?"
The point of the movie is that war is hell. Not everything is political, people.
Just saw the movie, this review is spot on.
Dude, the review isn’t even spot on for Suderman and your own telling. The more you read what he wrote the more it reads like something someone wrote to try to convince leftists and/or himself that the movie is impartial.
Post-apocalyptic? I wish even FDR didn’t have a third term but (post-)apocalyptic?
Does ‘antifa massacre’ mean antifa did the massacring or they got massacred? I guess no one will ever really know the truth and you and find that entertaining or thought provoking? If only there were real life people who's job it was to dig deep and find those truths... too bad for us but good for the movie, I guess.
You showing up to chip in your “I saw the whole thing but the only thing I can reference the line the counterculture turned into a meme to make it seem like we all share the same values.” and earn your $0.50 is just icing on the cake.
I mean, there are untold depths of personalities that could be inserted as usurping the Presidency for a third term and triggering a Civil War that completely obviate the issue and a halfway sane writer/director could even see fit to splitting the difference between Biden and Trump. FFS, even the Wachowski Bros. were sane enough that they managed to set their allegory in England and have John Hurt play the role of dictator and they've since convinced themselves that they're biological women.
Yes, you won’t need to know ANY of the reasons for the war in this movie. They are completely irrelevant, intentionally kept ambiguous and unexplained. Details such as a “Western Forces” made up of California and Texas are there to force you to abandon any hunt for a "side".
Because the film is not about politics. It just isn’t. Sorry. “Top Gun” it ain’t.
Which is it you fucking retard? Is it a non-political “war is hell” movie and I don’t have to understand the politics motivating things any more than War Of The Worlds or Inglorious Basterds or is it totally a political movie that I have to see full-length and understand the motivations of both/all sides in order to appreciate?
Because, either way, it seems like an overpriced bag of shit that needs retards like you carry water and mott-and-bailey on behalf of in order to make any money.
Because the film is not about politics. It just isn’t. Sorry. “Top Gun” it ain’t.
Right. So it's just a lame, uninspired war journalism movie like Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
"Does ‘antifa massacre’ mean antifa did the massacring or they got massacred? "
They're saving that for the sequel. Can't wait!
"Best line in the movie is, “[Don’t shoot], I’m an American.” “Yeah? What kind?”
You can’t be serious.
He's not. It's two lines.
See the movie. You won't forget those lines.
They’re in the damn trailer, why would I need to see the movie just to see that part again?
Because the trailer, like all trailers, is a dumbing down of the real thing, and that line has zero impact outside of its context. See the movie, stop making excuses.
You are really a cheerleader for this movie. Are you an investor? Is a relative of yours in it?
And the critical lynchpin of the line is because there are two, or more, kinds of Americans. But don’t believe your lying eyes and ears, it’s a completely apolitical movie. You haven’t been to see it like DaveM, supposedly, has (despite doing nothing but regurgitating the meme from the trailer and making himself look retarded by saying “It’s not divisive/political.”).
It’s a “war is hell” movie but, again, from the previews, it’s not Blackhawk Down or Saving Private Ryan or Apocalypse Now or Dunkirk or Das Boot or All Quiet On The Western Front or Full Metal Jacket or Platoon or Patton or countless others… it’s a “war is hell” movie the way Forrest Gump or Good Morning Vietnam or the MASH movie is a “war is hell” movie.
I think this movie has already been made by the Marx brothers as "Duck Soup".
Whatever it is, I'm against it! No matter how you say it or present it! I'm against it!
Now that's a political platform we can all get behind.
The next civil war will be brother against sister, dog against cat, in which you won't know anyone's trying to kill you until you wake up dead. It won't even be widely recognized to have been a war until years later, and the only way you'll know you've won is that you survived.
It won’t even be widely recognized to have been a war until years later, and the only way you’ll know you’ve won is that you survived.
Sounds like COVID War IV or V… I think. I’ll have to check with my parents about how many pandemics they were surprised to find out they had lived through and whether they involved raccoon dogs or pangolins or not.
Dogs and cats are already at each others throats. That's why, "Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria." Was such a classic Ghostbusters line.
The next civil war will start with seizures of online assets and restrictions on online services. Once paper currency is eliminated, it is just a matter of time before a crossing of the Rubicon event
States won't go away, I suspect.
I'll watch it just because it's Alex Garland. That man has never disappointed me in a story.
I don't plan on going out of my way to see this. Journalists trying to cross the country to save the country seems like a stupid plot. I can't imagine journalists traveling without air conditioning and a wet bar.
If that's your impression of the movie, you definitely should go see it.
I haven't gone to a theater since before Covid, I think the last movie I saw in a theater was the Avengers Infinity War. This dumpster fire of a movie won't be the reason I go back to a theater. My wife has all the fucking streaming services and it will be free at some point. Even then I doubt I'll watch it. Journalists saving America. The Dungeons and Dragons movie had a more believable premise.
So see it in one of those luxury theaters with air conditioning and a wet bar.
Beer is cheaper at home. It will be on a streaming service for me to ignore and fall asleep to without paying 12 bucks for a theater seat.
Altruist Republicans and altruist democrats have nothing to offer but coercion. Both gangs want to kick your door in and shoot your dog for YOUR OWN GOOD. They only rob you for your own good, never their gain, unless speaking about one another in the third person. The solution to the three-party problem is to not be one of the looters. It's like the Ayn Rand homily, where the best way to help the poor is to not be one of them. When looters lose because a libertarian got 2% of the vote, they have to repeal coercive laws--and we win.