Minimum Wage Laws Make for Great Politics, but Fewer Jobs
Hiking wages through law is a crowd-pleaser, but it kills employment unless you’re a robot.

Once again, for those who didn't pay attention during Econ 101, if you artificially hike the price of labor, you reduce demand for workers. In California, this is playing out in terms of lost jobs, increased automation, and other consequences that result when politicians signal a unicorns-and-rainbows vision of the marketplace to their allies and leave the public to deal with the resulting mess.
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Higher Pay, but Fewer Jobs
"A California state law is set to raise fast-food workers' wages in April to $20 an hour. Some restaurants there are already laying off staff and reducing hours for workers as they try to cut costs," Heather Haddon reported for The Wall Street Journal. "California restaurants, particularly pizza joints, have outlined plans to cut hundreds of jobs in the months leading up to the April 1 wage mandate, according to state records. Other operators said they have halted hiring or are scaling back workers' hours."
This comes after California Pizza Hut franchisees laid off over 1,200 delivery drivers in anticipation of the minimum wage hike. It comes in the wake of McDonald's and Chipotle Mexican Grill announcing higher menu prices to accommodate labor costs; those higher prices can be expected to drive away some customers, resulting in less need for workers to service lower demand.
"California had 726,600 people working in fast-food and other limited-service eateries in January, down 1.3% from last September, when the state backed a deal for the increased wages," Haddon added. "Total private employment in the state declined 0.2% over that period, according to state figures."
Of course, less customer traffic isn't the only way to reduce staffing needs; you can also replace people with technology. Chipotle announced plans to use robots to assemble burrito bowls. El Pollo Loco is doing the same for making salsa. Other restaurants are adopting automated fryers and burger-flippers to reduce the costs of employees.
"In a state where the minimum wage for fast food workers will soon be $20 an hour, having less people to pay can be a bonus for businesses," Joy Benedict and Kerry Breen noted in January for CBS News.
That point should have been clear to everybody when California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed the minimum wage hike into law last September, but he insisted the intention of the legislation was to put money into worker's pockets, not to force them out on the street.
"California is home to more than 500,000 fast-food workers who – for decades – have been fighting for higher wages and better working conditions," Newsom said at the time. "Today, we take one step closer to fairer wages, safer and healthier working conditions, and better training by giving hardworking fast-food workers a stronger voice and seat at the table."
Which table did the governor mean? A table at a soup kitchen? Because no matter what wages are required by law, nobody gets paid if they're unemployed. And unemployment was a completely foreseeable outcome when the state used the force of law to raise the minimum price of offering work to people in an industry known for entry-level and low-skilled positions.
Virtue Signaling in the Absence of Virtue
"It's increasingly hard to escape the conclusion that the continued push for minimum wage increases despite their predictably bad consequences is a triumph of in-group signaling over a concern for the material welfare of the poor," Chris Freiman, a professor at the John Chambers College of Business and Economics at West Virginia University, commented in response to developments in California. It wasn't the first time he addressed the issue.
"Imagine that you stop at a red light and see a man with a cardboard sign that reads: 'Jobless and hungry. Please help,'" Freiman posed in a 2017 thought experiment. He pointed out that you could legally offer the man a $5 handout or not as you please, but it would be illegal for the driver behind you to pay him $5 an hour to mow her lawn, because that's below the minimum wage.
"If you are within your legal rights to offer him nothing, why isn't the driver behind you within her legal rights to offer him something that's better than nothing?" Freiman asked.
But too many people get nothing instead of a paycheck because politicians seek popular approval by raising the mandated price of some people's labor—particularly those struggling to acquire skills and build resumés—above its value to employers. That in-group signaling referenced by Freiman was on full display recently when California U.S. Senate hopeful Barbara Lee raised the ante on what she saw as California's inadequate contribution to the ongoing debate over minimum wage laws. Pitching herself as the most progressive candidate in the race, she said she would consider mandating $50 per hour.
Go big or go home, right? But even in a state eager to deny workers the right to set their own prices, Californians seem to understand that at $50 per hour, you don't get 17-year-old burger-flippers taking home six figures each year. Instead, you get higher prices and fewer jobs. Lee finished in fourth place in the Senate primary on March 5.
After all, if making people more prosperous is just a function of requiring that they be paid more for their labor, why stop at $50 per hour? Mandatory million-dollar salaries, maybe with condos overlooking the Pacific, would be sweet deals for kids assembling burritos. But nobody really expects the result to be rich fast-food workers. Instead, you'll get fewer people employed and automation stretched to its limit.
What Are Robots Paid per Hour?
"Up to 82% of restaurant positions could, to some extent, be replaced with robots," global restaurant consultant Aaron Allen & Associates reported in 2022. That includes 57 percent of fast-food and counter workers, courtesy of a large array of ordering, vending, delivery, and food-preparation technologies, with more on the way. "Some estimates indicate robotics can save between 30% and 70% on labor cost for restaurants," the firm added.
Hiking the minimum wage doesn't guarantee more money in the pockets of workers. Instead, it makes robot replacements more attractive—and necessary for businesses that try to control costs and to keep the prices they charge acceptable to their customers.
None of this means that politicians like Gavin Newsom aren't aware of costs. When they mandate higher minimum wages, they're betting that the value of virtue signaling to their supporters is greater than the economic damage done in terms of lost jobs and destroyed opportunities. It's a cruel calculation, but one that they're more than willing to inflict on the public.
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This is so dishonest pols like Newsome, Biden and their corrupt ilk can claim they raised wages, despite not actually having to do the hard work of making a business' books meet, and encourage hostility from the employed to the employer. Meanwhile they can disavow the awful consequences of their policies by pinning it on the badly motivated capitalist.
By that logic, when wages are reduced to zero, slavers will employ everyone.
In addition to being a pile of Nazi shit, you are a stupid fuck.
Jews, not Nazis, are committing a holocaust in Gaza and are on trial for it in the International Court of Justice.
Why do you hate Nazis?
In addition to being a pile of Nazi shit, you are a stupid fuck and a liar besides.
Fuck off and die; your family will be proud.
Nope. No Holocaust in Gaza. That’s just Hamas propaganda. But you hate Jews. So you puke up the antisemitic pablum they feed you. Jus t like the good little Nazi you are.
The world has recognized that Jews are currently committing a holocaust in Gaza and are denying it even though they’re on trial for genocide today in the United Nations international court of justice.
Biden is funding the genocide making himself and the US complicit. He and bibi with his ministers along with everyone else enabling the genocide will dance on the gallows for committing crimes against humanity and be recognized as pariahs for all history.
Your crutch, the term “antisemitism“ is defunct, used up no more. Jews traded their bullshit victim gold card in for their holocaust in Gaza.
Netanyahu is responsible for telling the IDF to commit ideological genocide by referencing the Jewish biblical genocide against women and children with the story of AMALEK. Clearly inciting genocide. With over 20,000 non combatant women and children intentionally targeted and killed and IDF soldiers on record rejoicing about it referencing amalek, the effect of Netanyahus instructions are clear.
Israeli defence minister Yoav Gallant said Israel was fighting “human animals” and that they will be “starved of food and water” which Israel has done and continues to do.
Amichay Eliyahu, the minister for heritage, who suggested dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza; Israel isn’t supposed to have nuclear weapons. Saddam Hussein was hung for crimes against humanity and he didn’t even have WMD much less threaten to use them.
The country’s mainly ceremonial president, Isaac Herzog, who described Palestinians as “an entire nation out there that is responsible” demonstrates the genocidal intention.
These statements in combination with their actual execution clearly meets the UN definition and criteria for genocide aka holocaust.
I’ve refuted that BULLSHIT propaganda story, victim gold card crutch, countless times and to date none of you have ever refuted anything that I’ve said.
There are only two possible explanations for this.
First, I’ve shared the truth that cannot be refuted.
Second, you’re too stupid to refute what you deny.
Which is it?
The following points refute key elements of the embellished WW2 holocaust with logic and science. Truth can’t be refuted.
There has been no objective forensic analysis at any supposed site. There is no physical evidence. Any activity that demonstrates and shares evidence to refute the holocaust is a crime in every nation where it allegedly occurred.
The fact that all evidence that refutes the holocaust is criminal in every nation where it allegedly occurred is especially relevant if you are accepting any evidence at all from those nations.
Refusing to consider evidence is the definition of bias, bigotry and a disregard for justice.
Without objective forensic evidence all we have is a story made up of piecemeal recollections of events from paid and coerced fuckwitnesses.
I refute those stories with correctly applied logic and science.
The crucial event of the story is the cyanide gassing of millions of Jews. That couldn’t have happened as claimed. The story is bullshit.
Jews have published books illustrated with pictures of themselves shirtless dragging piles of gassed bodies from the chambers to cremation ovens.
But cyanide is absorbed through the skin and NOBODY could have survived a single day of such activity much less collecting reparations into their old age reminiscing about it years later.
Those Jews lied.
Anyone who ever saw the naked body of somebody who died from cyanide asphyxiation would NEVER forget the red skin colour. The bodies necessary reaction to being unable to process oxygen.
Not a single surviving fuckwitness ever mentioned it.
Also, no dark cherry red skin discolouration was visible in any supposed photographs of bodies of so-called victims of the holocaust.
The fact is that it can’t be explained it and only bigotry prevents you from recognizing the ONLY logical conclusion.
Not a single fuckwitness testimony or alleged photograph of bodies was of anyone who died from cyanide exposure.
So much for the “evidence” of a holocaust.
And so it goes with every bullshit story told by paid and coerced lying Jews. The facts prove otherwise.
Have you ever heard of the Bletchley park decrypts of the famous German enigma machines? It was credited for turning the tide of the war as allies knew what military actions the Germans were planning.
Only released in the 1980s those translated messages included prison camp information, deaths, transfers and requests for medicines to treat illnesses. The numbers of dead don’t support the holocaust narrative of which there was also no mention of.
Here are some actual enigma decrypts from Bletchley park in 1942 when deaths were at their highest.
Covering the period 3rd Aug. 1942 – 25th Sept. 1942
A further examination is made of Concentration Camp figures; deaths from typhus have reached a very high figure in AUSCHWITZ.
A suspected case of typhus is reported from AUSCHWITZ (223b/42). It is probable that on the 6th August Nachschubkdtr. Russland Mitte requests typhus vaccine for 50 men and spottenfever serum for 20
For the first time returns are given for deaths of prisoners (223b/14,24,43,50): the figures for August are: NIEDERHAGEN 21, AUSCHWITZ 6829 (or 6889) men, 1525 women;.
Firstly the number of dead for the month are nowhere near what is necessary to support the holocaust narrative.
Secondly, notable is the concern over typhus deaths and the requests for medical supplies to treat.
Thirdly, are you willing and eager to perform the feeble mental gymnastics required to believe, as the story goes, that Germans were communicating in code about prison camps while talking plainly about their military actions with their top secret enigma machines?
That would require you to really believe that Germany INTENTIONALLY lost the war to cover up the holocaust while ostensibly leaving lying witnesses alive in the prison camps to tell their stories as they retreated.
The contradiction refutes the story.
Let’s not forget another old timey favourite.The story of Babi Yar is a popular lesson in Jewish schools described as the single largest event of the holocaust.
The lesson is that between 30,000 and 100,000 Jews were taken to a ravine in Ukraine where they were killed.
The story is told by one Jewish survivor, Dina Pronicheva, an actress who testified that she was forced to strip naked and marched to the edge of the ravine. When the firing squad shot, she jumped into the ravine and played dead. After being covered by thousands of bodies and tons of earth she dug herself out, unscathed, when the coast was clear and escaped to tell the story.
She is apparently the only person in history to successfully perform a matrix bullet dodge at a firing squad. The soldier aiming point blank at her never noticed her escape. Never walked a few steps to the edge of the ravine to finish her off.
They were stripped naked to leave no evidence. Naked she had no tools to dig herself out from under 30,000 bodies and tons of dirt.
Only after the deed was done, the nazis realized that so many bullet ridden bodies were evidence. Oops, rookie move. So they brought more Jews and millions of cubic feet of firewood to dig them up, cremate them on gravestones and scatter their ashes in surrounding fields.
There has been no forensic investigation at the site. None of the bullets allegedly burned with the bodies have been recovered. Not one shred of physical evidence of this has ever been found.
There are military aerial photographs of the area at the time but they don’t show any evidence of the narrative, no people, no equipment, no firewood, no moved earth, no tracks of any kind.
Simply stating these facts is a crime in Ukraine where the Babi Yar narrative is taught in school.
The numbers of dead from German enigma decrypts does align with Red Cross numbers.
The Red Cross was founded in 1863 with the purpose of protecting the interests of victims of conflicts.
The Red Cross regularly visited all prison camps. It was their job to report the cause of all deaths. They recorded a grand total of 271,000 among all camps for the entire war. It is a matter of record.
The holocaust fairytale requires us to believe that they were so unaware of what might be happening that they completely missed 95% of the victims in prison camps.
AND that they had not so much as an inkling that a holocaust was going on right under their noses even though allied media propaganda was reporting it and it was their sole mission to identify it. Because there is no evidence of any Red Cross document suggesting they did.
Are you performing those feeble mental gymnastics?
Zyklon B is an off the shelf insecticide used for years before and during the war widespread and throughout Europe among other places in Prison camps to delouse clothing and bedding to save lives by preventing deadly typhus. The system employed heating to release cyanide gas, fans to circulate the gas and more to exhaust the chambers to make the de loused articles safe to handle.
Pictures of this equipment and the small de lousing buildings with clothing racks still exist in Prison camps. But no evidence of any gas delivery system has ever been found in the shower houses where the bullshit holocaust allegedly occurred. In fact, the story has changed to that they just threw the heat activated pellets onto the cold drainless floors in rooms full of people.
Such an inefficient method would have taken too long to kill the required number of Jews. The pellets couldn’t be spread evenly in rooms full of people. The cold drainless floors would have delayed the release of cyanide from the pellets that people would have swept away from themselves. Any dead would have released all their bodily fluids and their bodies covering the pellets. Vomit would have been added to the floor prior to entering such a room.
According to the testimony of the so called survivor, the timing entering the chambers immediately, the details shirtless survivor, piles of bodies with unvented cyanide gas pockets in every space between bodies, death from repeated exposure as per testimony would have been necessary, not just possible.
All Jews saying they did that necessarily lied.
According to Martin Gilbert in his book, Holocaust Journey, the gas chambers at Treblinka utilized carbon monoxide from diesel engines. At the Nuremberg trial of the Nazi war criminals, the American government charged that the Jews were murdered at Treblinka in “steam chambers,” not gas chambers.
Gasoline engine exhaust contains about ten times the carbon monoxide than diesel. Diesel exhaust is relatively safe. Even if the Diesel engines were running at their maximum of 500 ppm, death would take several hours. Far too long to support the narrative.
If Germans had used gasoline engines, death would have been in a few minutes. But in the holocaust narrative for treblinka diesel was used even though Germany had plenty of gasoline for their tanks. Nuremberg still recorded that they were “steam chambers”.
Somebody is lying. They weren’t both steam chambers and diesel gas chambers. Which stupid lie is more believable? Does it even matter to you?
The story of gassing Jews began as British propaganda to turn popular opinion against Germany. It was inspired to draw attention away from Jewish Bolshevik war crimes in Russia because that would work against allied propaganda. It also served global Jewish interests to create undeserved sympathy for Jews who had publicly organized boycotts of Germany to drive Germany to war.
There is a documented letter from the head of British propaganda to the head of the war office recommending that they cease the “gassing Jews“ propaganda because there was no evidence for it and if found out would work against their propaganda efforts.
Head of British Psychological Warfare Executive (Propaganda), Victor Cavendish-Bentick in a handwritten note, wrote on Aug 27th, 1943,
“We have had a good run for our money with this gas chamber story we have been putting about, but don’t we run the risk eventually we are going to be found out and when we are found out the collapse of that lie is going to bring the whole of our psychological warfare down with it? So isn’t it rather time now to let it drift off by itself and concentrate on other lines that we are running.”
Public Record Office Document F0371/34551 revealed by Stephen Mitford Goodson, ‘Inside the South African Reserve Bank’.
Jews had been publicly claiming holocausts of 6 million Jews in various nations no less than 166 times between 1900 and 1945.
Holy Crap the stupid is out of control.
'Gov-Guns' forcing a price on your head is the opposite of slavery? Do you also wear shoes on your head?
Zero wages for 'Gov-Gun' packing criminals and their gangster-voters???
One can only hope for such justice to materialize.
The reasoning is the income disparity between the workers and the bosses CEOs of McDonalds, etc. If the politicians were being ethical rather than exploitive, and if the Constitution permitted it, they would set maximum corporation size as some multiple of the workplace size, and the boss of your local 'McDonalds' would be as high as it goes and earn correspondingly.
The law, so far, only applies to employers of a certain size. Not mentioned are customers buying from food trucks instead. Not mentioned are the prospective rise in quick 'gypsy' black market restaurants. I saw an article discussing the topic in 1993 and saved the magazine. One woman profiled in the article operated a food cart in front of the county building. She at the time earned less than $5,000/year and thought it better than her earnings in the past.
Why would setting a maximum corporation size be even vaguely ethical? That makes no sense.
Fuck off and die, slaver.
"Biden and their corrupt ilk can" ... "encourage hostility from the employed" ... "disavow the awful consequences of their policies by pinning it on the badly motivated capitalist"
It is a perfect repeat of the German-Nazi's.
The Nazi Party, officially the [Na]tional So[zi]alist German Workers' Party.
Were the political game is building 'Gov-Gun' toting mobs ([WE] identity) against those 'icky' people to STEAL from them everything they can and then proceed to KILL them off once they've been drained of asset.
It's so obvious the mentality behind the left. From building race-battles, building sex-battles, building class-battles, what-ever [WE] mob of 'Gun' toting self-entitlement they can round up enough gangsters from.
Karl Marx was a Jew.
Karl Marx wrote in Zur Judenfrage
that the worldly cult of the Jew was huckstering and his worldly god,
money, and that the most Jewish country on the face of the earth was New
England because of the Puritans who settled there:
the devout and politically free inhabitant of New England is a kind of
Laocoon who makes not the least effort to escape from the serpents which
are crushing him. Mammon is his idol, which he adores not only with his
lips but with the whole force of his body and mind. In his view the
world is no more than a Stock Exchange, and he is convinced that he has
no other destiny here below than to become richer than his neighbour.
Trade has seized upon all his thoughts, and he has no other recreation
than to exchange objects. When he travels, he carries, so to speak, his
goods and his counter on his back and talks only of interest and profit.
And you're a fucking Nazi imbecile.
Make you dog happy: Fuck off and die.
How about we do a variation on starship troopers, where only veterans could vote, and make a law only (successful) business owners can run for office?
First flaw is why would a successful business owner run, but we have to start somewhere.
Instead of veterans only, I'd include property owners, income tax payers, and exclude all gov't employees.
"exclude all gov’t employees."
This one makes a lot of sense. We need this one.
Lifetime disqualification for ever sucking the public tit.
Why make it so complicated? You and Idaho-Bob should just propose what you really want – only people that will vote the same as you get to vote. Or hell, even better would be to forget elections entirely and just give the power to the right people directly.
Of course people suggest the voting requirements that they think will advance their preferred policy outcomes. The same is true of people who want to expand suffrage. The idea in Starship Troopers was to make sure that only people willing to personally make sacrifices for the general good get to vote, and in theory that means people who can vote don't just vote to enrich themselves.
^ This is the steaming pile of lefty shit who promotes murder of the unarmed to prevent, well, he's too stupid to know:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Salaries for elected officials are much too low to attract competent and honest candidates.
We don't have honest and competent candidates now.
Did I stutter?
Make it like jury duty then.
I've actually seen people propose something like that. A legislative body for an area (city, state, or nation) is randomly selected from among a very large group of citizens. That then becomes the city council, state legislature, or Congress for a set period of time, and they would only ever serve that one term.
I think they assumed that the pool would consist of volunteers and that they'd meet some minimum qualifications of age, no criminal record, etc.
It could be interesting to see how that would work out. If the pool was large enough compared to the size of the legislature, then power-hungry people might not bother, since the odds of being chosen would be really low.
Unfortunately...
... the power-hungry just become the staffers and aides, puppeteers that pull the strings of the voluntold officials.
^ This is the steaming pile of lefty shit who promotes murder of the unarmed to prevent something or other.
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?…”
Low salaries is hardly the main reason we end up with incompetent and dishonest candidates. The main reason we end up with garbage running for office is because so many voters won't punish incompetence and dishonesty as long as it comes from their side.
^ This is the lefty asshole who promotes murder of the unarmed to prevent something or other.
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?…”
Evidence from other countries does not show any correlation between salary and ethical behavior by politicians. What evidence do you have that it's different here?
As far as I know, there are no democratic republics that offer salaries to government officials that are commensurate with the salaries of highly competent people in the private sector. Please give examples if I'm wrong.
Sarc and company say successful business owners know nothing about economics, so bad plan.
Lottery, but nobody wins.
You don't remember Starship Troopers very well. Citizens had greater privileges and 'service' in the armed forces guaranteed citizenship. (No mention of voting or elections was made in the movie at all, as I remember it.) Presumably there were other ways of becoming a citizen. It was just that they needed cannon fodder, so they dangled the lure of citizenship privileges to recruit young people that would be unlikely to gain citizenship any other way.
Of course the other thing you might have missed about Starship Troopers was how fascist the federation was. Dressing it up as a standard sci-fi action with clear good guys and vicious monsters as the enemy and attractive young stars was genius level satire, since that makes for highly effective propaganda.
It was a book first. The book is pretty different and gets into more detail on the setup and purpose of the political system.
It's militaristic (what else are you going to do when you are at war with space bugs?), but I don't think Fascist really fits. The military is all volunteer and non-citizens are free and prosperous and have a great deal of personal and economic liberty.
One only becomes a citizen when one leaves active federal service, and service is more than military, though the other assignments s may be much worse.
^ This is the steaming lefty shitpile who promotes murder of the unarmed to prevent something or other.
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?…”
Starship troopers- terrible movie but late 90s Denise Richards is my favorite Denise Richards. She wore way too much clothes in that movie.
Now Wild Things on the other hand- yummy.
Coming soon to California: the Robots' Rights Movement.
Too Slow.
https://blog.apaonline.org/2023/01/12/the-coming-robot-rights-catastrophe/
When they mandate higher minimum wages, they're betting that the value of virtue signaling to their supporters is greater than the economic damage done in terms of lost jobs and destroyed opportunities. It's a cruel calculation, but one that they're more than willing to inflict on the public.
Well, of course. The workers themselves think it's a good deal and will happily vote for these people precisely because they were never taught economics and genuinely don't know about these downsides.
The politicians are counting on that, and it's also probably why they don't teach economics before college outside maybe a half semester in high school.
"Chipotle announced plans to use robots to assemble burrito bowls. El Pollo Loco is doing the same for making salsa. Other restaurants are adopting automated fryers and burger-flippers to reduce the costs of employees.
"In a state where the minimum wage for fast food workers will soon be $20 an hour, having less people to pay can be a bonus for businesses," Joy Benedict and Kerry Breen noted in January for CBS News."
I don't see anything wrong with replacing humans with machines. It's been happening since the industrial revolution. Now suddenly it's something to be avoided? Because automation is somehow bad and, worse, a bonus for businesses? A $20 minimum wage will allow employers to hire the best, most compliant and diligent employees, leaving the dead wood to seek other ways to make a living.
We are approaching a time in which it will simply not be possible for all low-functioning and mediocre people to make a living. There won't be "other ways" for an increasingly large segment of the population.
"There won’t be “other ways” for an increasingly large segment of the population."
Very likely. Clinging on the current regime of lower wages and avoiding automation for drudgery doesn't seem to be the solution. Maintaining a large segment of the population in unproductive, low paid jobs doesn't seem a worthy goal.
"it will simply not be possible for all low-functioning and mediocre people to make a living."
It's probably not a good idea to shape society around keeping the low functioning and mediocre people in low paying and unproductive employment. Better to cut our losses, make employment about skill. And those currently languishing in drudgery will be free to find and make the most of their talents in new and interesting ways. Those 17 year old burger flippers everyone is wringing their hands over can go back to school or learn a decent trade, for a start. Those unable to exploit their independence and freedom will have to fall back on the mercies of the state, their neighbors and so on. Just like orphans, the mentally ill and physically incapacitated do today.
We are approaching a time in which it will simply not be possible for all low-functioning and mediocre people to make a living.
If it was just "low-functioning and mediocre" people struggling to make a living, then there would at least be an argument that a kind of survival of the fittest was taking place. Instead, we mostly have people unlucky enough to be born into low income families struggling to move up and out of poverty and low-income lives, all while mediocre individuals born into wealthy families do quite well.
There are plenty of paths for a smart, low income person to get ahead. Skilled trades are desperate to get new apprentices. There are tons of scholarships available. There are certainly some "poverty trap" kind of situations people can get into. But the idea that people are generally stuck in one economic class for generations is largely bullshit.
^ This lefty asshole promotes murder of the unarmed to prevent something or other.
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?…”
If business owners decide on their own to replace workers with machines, great. I have no complaints. If, however, business owners are effectively forced to do so, since the government is mandating a high minimum wage, and workers' work isn't worth $20+ an hour, I have a problem. That's not the free market at work, but responses to a problem created by the government.
"That’s not the free market at work"
This is ideology at work. You are putting airy fairy concepts like 'free market' over the ability of workers to make a decent wage. A $16/hour wage won't even cover the rent of the average California 1 bedroom apartment, let alone food, clothes, transportation, medical, education, and entertainment. If that's the free market you want to elevate above all, good riddance!
Not everyone needs to maintain a household on a single income. It's just retarded to pretend every job needs to support a family of 4. Young people starting out have always been poor, needed to have room mates, etc.
"Not everyone needs to maintain a household on a single income. "
At $16/hour an individual can't even maintain their own needs. Keeping a roof over one's head would take up a month's wages without anything left over for food, clothes and other essentials. In other words, a $16/hour wage is impossibly tight for one person. For your family of four, it's four times as impossibly tight.
"Young people starting out have always been poor, needed to have room mates, etc."
Average 1 bedroom apartment goes for about $3000 per month. How many room mates are needed to share that bedroom before one can afford clothes, food, transportation, medicine, education and entertainment? Not all that long ago, the rule of thumb was that accommodation shouldn't take up more than 30% of one's income. Now, libertarians are defending a figure of 100%.
No, libertarians are saying that government meddling with prices is a big part of the problem and further such meddling isn't a solution because it will create a bunch of new problems while not really solving the old one. Libertarians also think that it's not employers' problem that rents are too high and understand that the real minimum wage is 0.
“libertarians are saying that government meddling with prices is a big part of the problem”
Government also meddles with housing regulations. Without this meddling, the housing problems in the US would be solved as they are in Hong Kong, stacks of modestly priced wire cages. Hong Kong’s minimum wage is about $5US/hour, similar to work on Amazon’s Mechanical Turk. If Libertarians offer lower wages and wire cages as a solution, no wonder they can’t garner more than 1% of the vote in elections. A solution has to do more than comport with your ideological inclinations. It must be pragmatic as well as just to be acceptable to the public. If $16/hour is deemed too high, I can’t see how a lower wage is going to be acceptable to anyone. It would mean less money for employees, and none of that ‘bonus for businesses’ mentioned in the article.
Does it ever strike you that HOA, ?free? money for housing, Building regulations, Commie-‘federal’ massive land claims, etc, etc, etc, all part of the UN-Constitutional Socialist America
…………. IS EXACTLY why your California 1-bedroom fascist ran apartment costs so much???? As-if Commie-Healthcare and Commie-Education don’t meet the EXACT same status-quo…
Your excuses are just a root of despair digging yourself into china with.
If you had a government that ensured maximum Individual Liberty and Justice how much do you think an RV on a 300 sq-ft lot is going to cost???? UR socialist tactics is exactly why that's been 'banned'.
"…………. IS EXACTLY why your California 1-bedroom fascist ran apartment costs so much???? "
Hong Kong style wire cages stacked up to the ceiling would certainly be cheaper. Californians seem to prefer housing with running water, privacy and cooking facilities. Californians also seem to believe that higher minimum wages are more preferable to lower or no minimum wages. It's time Libertarians realize that the American voter is more communist than they would like.
The USA is NOT a democracy. Gov-Gun criminals "prefer" ... but don't want to EARN it so they use 'Guns' against those 'icky' people doesn't really matter in a sound USA because the US Constitution forbid this evil and criminal way of governing.
Entrepreneurs are simply those who understand that there is little difference between obstacle and opportunity and are able to turn both to their advantage.
Niccolo Machiavelli
The promise of supply-side economics from the Reagan era was that wealth would 'trickle down' to those working low-wage jobs. We got aphorisms like "a rising tide raises all boats" and rhetoric about "welfare queens" and people being "trapped" in cycles of welfare instead of actual policies to incentivize businesses to share the gains of worker productivity equally with the workers. As the Great Society and War of Poverty failed, the right-wing response was to go with literal magical thinking about the "invisible hand" of the free market curing all economic ills.
What's stopping workers from keeping their own productivity????
Shouldn't that be an incentive to start a business????
BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses... BS excuses...
It never F'En ends with you armed-theft criminals of self-entitlement.
JasonT20 is the lefty asshole who promotes murder of the unarmed to prevent something or other.
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?…”
“…..incentivize businesses to share the gains of worker productivity equally with the workers.”
JFC, there are too many things wrong with this sentence to count. God damn, you suck, comrade.
'Gov-Guns' will put a price-tag on your head (minimum wage). One of the worst [Na]tional So[zi]alist policy curses/destroyers in the USA. Only surpassed by massive Socialist Security, Commie-Education and Socialist Healthcare.
That right there is the root reason the USA is no longer competitive and too many lazy self-entitlement with 'gov-guns' citizens have arisen.
Once a society gets the notion that it's ok to push people around in service of a greater good, the destination is always the toilet. Things get worse, and therefore the "cure" has to be applied even harder.