A Belated Bureaucratic Reversal on Pot
Marijuana's classification has always been a political question, not a medical one.

Since 1970, marijuana has been listed in Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act, a category supposedly reserved for drugs with "a high potential for abuse" that have "no currently accepted medical use" and cannot be used safely even under a doctor's supervision.
The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) has consistently rejected petitions asking it to reclassify marijuana, citing advice from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). But HHS changed that advice in August 2023, and its rationale, explained in a document it released five months later, confirms that marijuana's classification has always been a political question, not a medical one.
HHS was responding to an October 2022 directive from President Joe Biden, who instructed the department and Attorney General Merrick Garland to "initiate the administrative process to review expeditiously how marijuana is scheduled under federal law." Biden noted that "we classify marijuana at the same level as heroin" and treat it as "more serious than fentanyl," which he said "makes no sense." After conducting its review, HHS recommended that the DEA move marijuana to Schedule III, which includes prescription drugs such as ketamine, Tylenol with codeine, and anabolic steroids.
As recently as 2016, HHS was still saying marijuana should remain in Schedule I. Its turnaround was not based on new scientific evidence. It was based on a reinterpretation of the criteria for Schedule I that could have been implemented much sooner.
The DEA had long maintained that a substance can have a "currently accepted medical use" only if there is enough evidence to satisfy the Food and Drug Administration's requirements for approving a prescription drug. HHS replaced that dubious understanding of the law with a two-part test that takes account of clinical experience with marijuana in the 38 states that have approved medical use and asks whether there is "credible scientific support" for one or more applications. HHS found such support for treatment of pain, nausea and vomiting, and "anorexia related to a medical condition."
Regarding abuse potential and safety, HHS noted that marijuana compares favorably to "other drugs of abuse," such as heroin (Schedule I), cocaine (Schedule II), benzodiazepines like Valium and Xanax (Schedule IV), and alcohol (unscheduled). "The vast majority of individuals who use marijuana," it said, "are doing so in a manner that does not lead to dangerous outcomes to themselves or others."
This was not news to most Americans. Way back in 1988, the DEA's chief administrative law judge concluded that marijuana did not meet the criteria for Schedule I, only to be overruled by the agency's head. This time around, given the belated reversal at HHS, the outcome is apt to be different.
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"In the United States, cannabis is legal in 38 of 50 states for medical use and 24 states for recreational use."
In 24 states, I do NOT need a doctor's permission to ingest "pot"!
In 50 (all fifty!) states, I DO need a doctor's permission to blow upon a cheap plastic flute!!!
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To me...If alcohol is unscheduled, marijuana should be unscheduled. Not understanding how it is even debatable anymore, given over 30 states legalized for medical use, and a majority of states for adult use.
The medical marijuana programs promulgated by the states are safe, and effective. This is the human clinical data that we have. It is incredibly effective as an adjunct for pain relief; the route of administration determines what kind of pain relief sought.
I would much rather people consume weed, over alcohol. Far fewer poisoning deaths annually. It is less deleterious on the body and mind.
Congress should address this. Just make it legal and be done with it.
Both sides of the aisle have their reasons for keeping it illegal. Lawmakers aren't going to actually increase individual liberty in this case. In every case of legalization for either medical or recreational use that I am aware of it has been a petitioning process leading to a ballot initiative that has done the legalization. Then after it passes state legislatures do all they can to restrict use without violating the terms of the ballot initiative.
I've yet to hear of a single state that hasn't gone along with the feds and insured any medical use is accompanied by the loss of 2nd amendment rights. The older the initiatives passing is the more creative restrictions state legislatures have placed upon its use.
The states don't have a lot of say in the 2A question, as it's a federal law that federal firearm licensees have to follow when selling firearms. I obviously still think it's retarded, and the feds don't actually have the authority to have made that law, but that is how it stands at the moment. :-/
I don't see either side leaping up to try and fight for a pot smokers 2nd amendment rights. I doubt we ever will see that happen. In fact the rescheduling request is probably an underhanded trick to get more people to willingly surrender their gun rights. I wouldn't put it past either side to play that game.
"The vast majority of individuals who use marijuana," it said, "are doing so in a manner that does not lead to dangerous outcomes to themselves or others."
"The vast majority of individuals who use guns are doing so in a manner that does not lead to dangerous outcomes to themselves or others."
The vast number of any group behaves respectfully and responsibly. It's the minority of people who cause all the problems. Both sides want to preemptively police people to prevent possible problems. Instead let's just come down hard on the people who actually cause real harm to others and leave the majority of folks alone.
So how many times has marijuana killed anyone? Zero.
How many times has putting guns in the hands of idiots and the insane killed anyone? (nonzero answer here)
Spooner's 1875 response to Comstock laws adds: "If a person really does become insane, non compos mentis, incapable of reasonable discretion or self-control, it is then a crime on the part of other men, to give to him or sell to him the means of self-injury."
Can you prove no one ever killed another motorist while impared on Marijuana? I doubt it.
According to NAIBHS, the folks who do all the research for the feds, states, & most importantly their Auto Insurance agency, it's extremely rare to find incidents of Marijuana only fatalities due to the presence of drugs & substances in a drivers blood or urine screens and the fact that Marijuana will be present in those tests for up 30 days given how its metabolized by the body. For one to assume that marijuana was in fact the basis for a fatal accident, the accident causing driver must be able to be evaluated at the scene in order to determine the probability the offender was currently under the influence which can really only happen when & if the offender was uninjured.
In the 80's I was in the Navy. We shared a hangar with DEA/Customs. One night after we had finished we were sitting at a picnic table outside the hangar drinking some beer. Some of the Customs guys joined us. We were talking about the "drug war". One of our guys said "Legalize it. Take the big money out of it." One of the Customs guys (a pretty senior person) said "Never going to happen. There's too much money to be made in selling them and too much money to be made in fighting them. Both sides own Congresscritters (his exact words)" He's right. If you look at where MJ has been made "legal" it is in Democrat run areas where the Democrats hope to make a windfall in deciding who gets the licenses to sell it and in taxes. That's it plain and simple. By the way I'm the guy who said "Legalize it".
As a disabled vet & medical marijuana patient, I've contacted the NRA at least 50 times and they have never responded. Luckily, I live in IL, home of the unconstitutional FOID card requirement. So while I can never walk into a gun store & purchase a firearm, I can buy one, w/a current FOID card, from another IL FOID card holder in good standing, as long as we write a bill of sale that includes all the firearm's particulars; I recommend including photo copies of both party's state DL/ID and FOID cards.
Illinois passed recreational marijuana via assembly bill (there is no ballot initiative process in IL) and their medical bill passed previously does not permit the state to revoke or deny a FOID card (firearms license) if the person also has a medical marijuana card.
As others have noted the problems come from the federal regulations, that FFLs still have to follow.
The FOID card is a 2nd amendment violation in my opinion but here in IL it's the only game in town. But you are correct. My wife has a medical card and had no problem getting a FOID, the question doesn't come up. When we buy a gun I sign the federal form only because if the feds decide to come after us for other reasons they can't make a perjury case. Also we pay cash for guns. She grows her own marijuana. After watching the J6 prosecutions you really can't be too careful.
Abortion was for a small group and now it is exploded. Marijuan was for a small group and now it's exploded.
Just make it illegal and be done with it
The feds have made themselves irrelevant on this issue. While they are trying to figure out how to program their VCR's we moved on.
I wish. They are still meddling as best they can. Any company with federal contracts has to do drug testing even if the state where their facility is in has legalized weed. Mybson has to submit to piss and hair testing for a summer internship. The feds are working hard to insure anyone who avails themselves of legal weed loses their 2nd Amendment rights. There are others I haven't been made aware of I am sure. But the feds are certainly keeping their fingers in this particular pie.
"Equitable Sharing" allows police departments in states that have banned them from keeping stolen loot to keep stolen loot. That's why most big busts involve the federal DEA.
Their goons know how to pull triggers.
If you want to get a job, especially one that receives federal money (like Medicare) you must pass a drug test that includes marijuana. If you take any type of controlled substance (ambien, for instance) your medical provider is required to initiate a contract with you that includes drug panels that includes marijuana; if you give birth to a child, hospitals are required to run a drug panel that includes marijuana (and if positive the mother is reported to child protective services, snd often forced to participate in recovery).
Note that positive results can occur up to 30 days following your last use, so this has nothing to do with sobriety.
And don’t forget that if you are apprehended in the possession of a gun and marijuana, that’s 15 years. And if you’re honest on an NICS form (you must complete when purchasing a firearm) you will be prohibited for using marijuana.
Now tell me that our government doesn’t suck.
See? Reasoning with the insane is pointless. That's why spoiler vote clout is the fastest route to repeal. Mule trainer (https://bit.ly/3QpGuKk)
It used to be our government. But Herbert Hoover did a victory lap around South America (Bolivia he kept beneath warship cannon) preaching sumptuary coercion. Both Jones laws (same Senator) ruined their shipping and soon the hook was baited with Moratorium on Brains to ruin Germany in July 1931. Almost all the old links to the Reagan-Gramm-Bush-Biden prohibition orgy of 1986-87 are disabled, the files hidden.
sorry, that is without meaning : sumptuary coercion.
The only use in political discussion is sumptuary laws.
sumptuary law, any law designed to restrict excessive personal expenditures in the interest of preventing extravagance and luxury. The term denotes regulations restricting extravagance in food, drink, dress, and household equipment
There's an entire government industry build around busting, robbing, and imprisoning growers and dealers. Legalization at the federal level would cost thousands of government jobs and millions in lost revenue. That's why it's still Schedule I.
Yup-yup yo and a bottle of rum! DEA agents, FDA to some extent, cops of all kinds, judges, prison guards, administrators of all sorts. Social workers, shrinks, and therapists (some of them NOT directly employed by Government Almighty, but they ARE "special interests" at the feeding troughs, and making campaign contributions). PLUS of course LAWYERS (private and public employees both) who make LOTS of money off of this... And pay TAXES on their loot! NO ONE wants to give up an easy gravy train!
A reason article detailing how many parasites are fastened to the DEA, the sumptuary arm of Treasury and DOJ, and the arm-twisters at State polluting smaller, weaker nations with hidden persuaders. Then there's the old CIA-style mob that has sown hatred for the US since banana warfare. But the whole point of spoiler votes for a repeal party is to cut through all that and offer the choice between repeal and being replaced. Since both halves are the same, the difference (shown by Chase Oliver) is 2% with a 200x dollar leverage. Oliver (http://bit.ly/3hFH6QJ)
An 'explanation" that refutes itself. Once ensconced, yes ,status quo is maintained but WHY did that industry start in the first place.that you ignore. After all, you could have a nationalized growing and dealing and that would more jobs and more revenue.
Though you really need to see reality here, AMTRAK is a loser top to bottom
'HHS was responding to an October 2022 directive from President Joe Biden, who instructed the department and Attorney General Merrick Garland to "initiate the administrative process to review expeditiously how marijuana is scheduled under federal law." Biden noted that "we classify marijuana at the same level as heroin" and treat it as "more serious than fentanyl," which he said "makes no sense."'
How close to November will Biden announce federal legalization, and a government program to provide free weed?
That sclerotic old drug warrior will never yield; but then you are talking about votes…
There actually was (and I believe for a few people still is) a federal medical marijuana program, and yes they get their weed for free from the feds.
I don't understand why this is posted now in advance of the April edition, or why it's even IN the April edition. There is nothing new in the part of the article posted today and, as far as I can tell from a google search, they have not made any new Schedule changes officially.
Sullum's capacity for suprise is itself surprising. The law says to rob and shoot kids for marijuana. The law says whatever you can get a court to say it says. Chicago corn sugar plants hired Al Capone to make beer. Saint Louis corn sugar plants (Anheuser Busch) hired Henry J Oldani. Both were protected by local and state courts until the Feds found a way to use tax laws to rob and jail them. Capone was noisy; Oldani was quiet. Behind both were town-sized sugar-beer operations with money to burn. When prohibition wrecked the economy they bought repeal and soon the law said to shoot kids for weed, not beer.
again , wrong,esp on the moral side.It was Catholics who fought Prohibition unceasingly.
How the Jesuits of ‘America’ heroically defended booze against Prohibition
https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2019/11/08/how-jesuits-america-heroically-defended-booze-against-prohibition
I worked at A-B.No,that was an issue about genetically modified ingredients for beer.
Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice. — Harry J. Anslinger
Jim Crow generation heard that for 30 years, when Biden announced we were a Racial Jungle populated with Clinton’s Super Predators. I would DARE any one who has armed government agents teaching children to tell me the difference between the dictionary and legal definitions of genocide.
This nation has been groomed to be pro-authoritarian.
This is why when Dad says 'No' we run to Mom. Then we get our way, there is a big fight -- but who cares? we got our way.
Bezos is worth approachign $200 Billion and
"Apr 20, 2023 — Amazon is asking Virginia for nearly $153 million in state incentive payments."
Biden complains about pollution and environment and then gives great help to Amazon , like USPS delivery on Sundays
" Amazon generated 599 million pounds of plastic packaging waste in 2020. This is a 29% increase of Oceana’s 2019 estimate of 465 million pounds. The report also found that Amazon’s estimated plastic packaging waste, in the form of air pillows alone, would circle the Earth more than 600 times."
So you are paying to help increase a problem that will cost trillions for your children to clean up. The stupid and lazy President could care less.