The Economy Is Doing Way Better Than Many Believe
Despite the popular narrative, Millennials have dramatically more wealth than Gen Xers had at the same age, and incomes continue to grow with each new generation.

America is celebrated for its economic dynamism and ample and generously paid employment opportunities. It's a nation that attracts immigrants from around the world. Yet Americans are bummed, and have been for a while. They believe that life was better 40 years ago. And maybe it was on some fronts, but not economically.
Surveys repeatedly demonstrate that Americans view today's economy in a negative light. Seventy-six percent believe the country is going in the wrong direction. Some polls even show that young people believe they'll be denied the American dream. Now, that might turn out to be true if Congress continues spending like drunken sailors. But it certainly isn't true based on a look back in time. By nearly all economic measures, we're doing much better today than we were in the 1970s and 1980s—a time most nostalgic people revere as a great era.
In a recent article, economist Jeremy Horpedahl looked at generational wealth (all assets minus all debt) and how today's young people are faring compared to previous generations. His findings are surprising. After all the talk about how Millennials are the poorest or unluckiest generation yet, Horpedahl's data show them with dramatically more wealth than Gen Xers had at the same age. And this wealth continues to grow.
What about income? A new paper by the American Enterprise Institute's Kevin Corinth and Federal Reserve Board's Jeff Larrimore looks at income levels by generation in a variety of ways. They find that each of the past four generations had higher inflation-adjusted incomes than did the previous generation. Further, they find that this trend doesn't seem to be driven by women entering the workforce.
That last part matters because if you listen to progressives and New Right conservatives, you might get a different story: that today's higher incomes are only due to the fact that both parents must now work in order for a family to afford a middle-class lifestyle. They claim that supporting a family of four on one income, like many people did back in the '70s and '80s, is now impossible. Believing this claim understandably bums people out.
But it's not true. One of its many problems, in addition to the data evidence provided by Corinth and Larrimore, is that it mistakenly implies that single-income households were the norm. In fact, as early as 1978, 50 percent of married couples were dual earners and just 25.6 percent relied only on a husband's income. I also assume that there are more dual-income earners now than there were in the '80s. While this may in fact be true for married couples (61 percent of married parents are now dual-earners), because marriage itself has declined, single-earner families have become relatively more common.
Maybe the overall morosity on the economy has to do with the perception that it's more expensive to raise a family these days than it used to be. Another report by Angela Rachidi looks at whether the decline in marriage, fertility, and the increase in out-of-wedlock childbirths are the result of economic hardship. She finds that contrary to the prevailing narrative, "household and family-level income show growth in recent decades after accounting for taxes and transfers." Not only that, but "the costs of raising a family—including housing, childcare, and higher education costs—have not grown so substantially over the past several decades that they indicate an affordability crisis."
So, what exactly is bumming people out? We may find an answer in the 1984 Ronald Reagan campaign ad commonly known as "Morning in America." It begins with serene images of an idyllic American landscape waking up to a new day. It features visuals of people going to work, flags waving in front of homes, and ordinary families in peaceful settings. The narrator speaks over these images, detailing improvements in the American condition over the past four years, including job creation, economic growth, and national pride.
I believe this feeling is what people are nostalgic about. It seems that they are nostalgic about a time when America was more united and it was clearer what being American meant. Never mind that this nostalgia is often based on an incomplete and idealized memory of an era that, like ours, was not perfect.
This is a serious challenge that we need to figure out how to address. One thing that won't help, though, is to erroneously claim that people were economically better off back then and call on government to fix an imaginary problem.
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Holy shit, Reason really is going full force into trying to gaslight people into believing the economy is doing well. One has to wonder if that coincides with their political preferences and the fact that incumbents rarely lose when the economy is perceived to be good
Methinks, between the articles and Reason+, somebody may've donated too much money to Haley's structured opposition nuclear train wreck and is now desperately seeking desired political return on their political influence dollar wherever they can find it.
I feel sorry for Wolfe, Remy, Heaton, and Bragg.
I wonder how all that gas lighting affects the environment.
You are so right!! We can't believe facts. We can't believe statistics. We can't believe data. We need to believe YOUR OPINION!!
No moron, we’ve seen the facts and data. This article is designed to persuade us not to believe our lying eyes.
Walmart literally lowered wages in July of 2023. I don't want to hear a damn word about wages going up.
That's starting pay for new workers hired after July 2023. It was cut by $1/hr for new stockers and online order fillers. Meanwhile, in January 2023 Walmart raised pay for existing workers by $2/hr
"Errors using inadequate data are much less than those using no data at all." - Charles Babbage
Wages are going up in California, (unless you work at Panera bread).
Or dropping to $0 in some cases.
Geez fuck this article is a bunch of carefully picked strawmen. Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining.
First, nobody gives a shit about whether "the economy" is doing well, if they're seeing their own standard of living and their own prospects in decline. Cherry pick all the data you want, and they won't convince me that a middle class lifestyle is as attainable as it was for my parents. (note, I'm GenX, not millennial. But, still..)
Good example, I rent a room from a friend. He bought this house on a single, working-man's salary. Paid 165K for it 25 years ago. Comps in the neighborhood are a million dollars. If it wasn't a total wreck that needs to be torn down, it'd be closer to a million three. Even nationally, housing prices from the 60s through the end of the 20th century were about 4-4.5x median household income. Now they're around 8x. Note, that's HOUSEHOLD income. Where I live it's more like 10X or more.
In other words, you inherit from your boomer parents here, are straight up rich, or you will NEVER own a house.
Same with the "wealth at their age" of the millennials. Not that I don't like poking fun at them, they're absolutely the worst generation, but where did their wealth come from? And why wouldn't you note that a lot of their dark views on the economy come from graduating college right into the the Great Recession? They saw college costs tripled over what their parents paid, housing costs doubled, and have no other perspective.
Inherited wealth is not the same as the opportunity and social mobility. When all that great gain in income (BTW, I checked, median household income is 74K in 2023 and was about 70K in 1999/2000 inflation adjusted to 2023 dollars.) goes to paying rent and buying food, nobody gives a shit if the GDP is up 3.5% instead of 3%.
Oh, next time you want a million illegal aliens to come across the border, same argument.
As of 4 years ago you could still get a house in Maryland a little north and west of some of the richest counties in America (“rich”thanks to being DC overflow parking). But it took some effort. (I could never do it if my wife didn’t make as much as I did). I imagine it’s harder now. But not impossible.
Renting is what’s really getting brutal around here. Last I checked, It’s almost like you need 3 minimum wage incomes to get a one bed room apartment.
One of the fun things we recently learned is how home owning can punish you for making a savvy investment. The going value of the of our house went up 100K in a few years. Even with a fixed rate mortgage, our payments went up 200+ a month due to increased property taxes and our insurance spiking.
Wouldn’t be so bad if everything else wasn’t spiking at the same time, or if we could sell and bail to somewhere half the price that still had an economy of any kind. But right now it’s pretty much purgatory. And don’t even get me started on the cost of oil heating. Lessons learned.
Even with a fixed rate mortgage, our payments went up 200+ a month due to increased property taxes and our insurance spiking.
Round here that's how they get rid of poor people. Rich people move in, home valuations go up, property taxes skyrocket, and homes that have been in families for generations have to be sold.
Yes, but boomers with their large-family houses and their desire to downsize are losing a lot of money on those homes.
JOEL KOTKIN sees our stupid and lazy President as a chief culprit
"President Biden’s administration seems determined to push rent-focused California-style densification across the US. The president’s plans include such things as forcing racial diversity on suburbs, even though 96% of all suburban growth in the last decade was from non-white people. He also has chosen to spend massively on rail, buses and transit rather than on roads, which are used by the vast majority of Americans. One might be inclined to ask why, if transit constitutes less than 1% of passenger travel in the US, does it represent 28% of the funds Biden proposes to spend on transportation? The answer is clear: to make it easier for people to live in deep blue, high density areas. "
How much did your household income go up in those same "few years"?
Nationwide wages have increased at half the rate of inflation over the last three years.
From about 95K-100K to about 110-115K over 5 years. With way less back in taxes. And if that seems like a lot to you, you’re not living in Maryland.
Get out of Maryland.
It’s a long term plan, for sure. But where do you suggest upstaking and heading to from our entire lives? Somewhere that that there’s no work? Should I be like half of southern PA, West Virginia, or Delaware commuting hours into Maryland to pay for a slightly cheaper house?
Or Is this somehow a dodge on blaming the actual culprits and me bitching about artificially contrived costs of living?
Cool story, bra. Tell us another one. BTW, the median sales price of new houses sold in the US in 4Q-2023 was $417,700. Existing was $379,100. That's 5.6 X median household income of $74,000 for new houses and 5.1 for existing. Source: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MSPUS
Stuck in California
Yeah, I see your problem.
It's hilarious when people in California moan about million+ houses considering the average home price here in New Mexico is $354K.
Ah, yes, Ed G's magic of picking and choosing his statistics and pretending they say what they don't say.
My personal example is, well, personal. But the numbers are national. Here's the FIRST link on a search: https://www.longtermtrends.net/home-price-median-annual-income-ratio/
That's just home prices. Rents have gone up the same. And I doubt Boise, or Austin, or Denver, or Tampa, or a bunch of other places I had been looking to move pre-pandemic are MORE affordable than they were a decade ago.
Sacramento makes things worse here, but these are national trends. Bad interest rate policy, propping up bankers who committed fraud and made terrible decisions, engineering a "soft landing", trying to bolster the economy with QE when interest rates have been so low there's no room to lower them any more. That's just housing.
Let's do food next, with government policies forcing consolidation of meat packers. Or ethanol subsidies causing a massive change in crop selection so everything from animal feed to bread and tortillas became way more expensive.
But, good for you, living where you are. Where median household income is 59K so that $354K is still 6x annual household income for a less desirable location.
I thought the same thing. Choosing to live in a jurisdiction that does everything it its power to screw up the housing market and inhibit new construction, then complaining about the costs of those policies seems more than a little short-sighted.
If Stuck wants a decent home, move someplace sane (and importantly, leave your self-destructive policy choices in California).
Which is half the equation. You can find houses for a fraction of the price in plenty of states with no freakin’ work.
Hey America, don't sweat it, the economy is actually fine. All that economic pain you feel? You're imagining things.
It is just cheesy poofs and spittin tobackey.
Well, that cleared things up. I was going the opposite direction with my first hand experience. You can never trust your damn lying eyes.
Please elucidate. What is your monthly income now compared to 3 years ago? What are your monthly expenses now compared to 3 years ago? What is your current net worth (assets - debts) now compared to 3 years ago?
You might want to stop. The numbers don’t support your democrat talking points.
Ed just picks numbers, not the numbers that matter or even directly relate to what is being discussed, and then pretends they say something good.
Which, I guess, works here. Because that's what all the "The economy is great!" headlines have been doing. But that's Ed's shtick on absolutely everything.
Well, if you have the numbers provide them please.
Wages rose about 10% over the last three years. Prices rose 20%. Even more on necessities.
Thank God!
Every time I buy groceries or gasoline or get an estimate for any kind of work on the house (arthritis keeps me off ladders) I now can be assured I am wrong in thinking things got a LOT worse when the democrats took over.
Glad to hear it.
Gasoline is now about 60 cents more per gallon than the average price from 2017 to 2020.
If you say so - - - -
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W
Looks like an average of at least $1.25 more. And I’m being conservative in that estimate.
So now that Haley support has been pulled, time to start building up reluctantly voting for Biden? What is this article?
Exactly what you said
'Reluctantly'
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Oh. The economy is doing great. I just didn’t get the message. Thanks for setting me straight, Veronica.
GTG. Time to cook some $4.50/lb chicken for dinner and cruise Redfin for some modest houses that I’ll never be able to afford. Or maybe I can just rent a house from Blackrock instead. Oh, the joys of the 21st century economy!
Is that the price per pound for a whole chicken or for skinless, boneless breasts? We buy leg and thigh quarters for under 2 bucks a pound. Maybe you shouldn't try to live so high on the.. er.. chicken.
Gotta save money for all the alcohol and sly white knighting for Reason when they push DNC narratives, eh, sarc?
So, no answer then.
But when Trump left office you could buy boneless chicken breast for $2.96 that went to $4.76 and is now around $4.09. Only useful idiots praise government for lowering their standard of living
No. 74 cents more now. Source: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000FF1101
St. Louis =/= rest of country
Even if we granted your argument, the economy is still in a worse condition than it was prepandemic. Stop defending Biden and the gaslighting media.
Bone in skin on thighs in an air fryer has literally become a staple in our house. You can make some great stuff with it in a pot, too. But it still sucks when you know the real reasons you can’t afford steak once in awhile were totally avoidable consequences of idiotic policy.
And going out to eat and drink. Holy crap. Hitting the “cheap” Mexican place down the road with my wife was still $80 after tip. No appetizers. Two entrees. Two big margaritas (rail tequila). Most bar/restaurants around here, the bill is over $100 for two of us, with happy hour prices. Can’t do a big concert right for under $200-$300 a person. That’s just tickets and boozing. Not even mentioning getting an Uber or a room to stay.
Bone in skin on thighs in an air fryer has literally become a staple in our house.
Slip some butter under the skin to get it extra crispy.
Grey box says what?
Put some thyme in the butter to make it extra yummy.
I wouldn't know about concerts. I only go to them at the Buffalo Chip. Pay for a tent site and watch all the concerts you want.
Yeah, it’s skinless boneless breasts. I’m kind of busy, with a full time job, kids, and other stuff going on, so I’m willing to pay a little more for my chicken so I don’t have to add “butcher” to my list of amateur occupations. I guess cooking pre-butchered chicken at home is now a luxury in this economy.
Average chicken price is now 74 cents per pound higher than when Biden was inaugurated. Source: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000FF1101
Is this retail cost or sale cost? How are they averaging the chicken parts? Have you seen wings lately?
Some people can't find anything positive when their guy isn't in office. These Republicans sound like Democrats when Trump was in office or my old boss when Obama was in office.
I see the sock puppet mask is off.
Read my reply to EdG above.
I get pissed when eggs cost more than the carcass.
Eating lots of pork butt/shoulder.
That actually got expensive around here after pulled pork became hipster food. At least if you want a trimmed up Boston butt and not a huge skin on half picnic or something. And of course it depends on the sales. You can still get a deal time to time. I think it pre-dates the Bidenflation but the stuff virtually doubled back in the 2010s.
Similar things happened to flank steak and a lot of other cuts heavily featured on food network.
Nuh uh! Recent inflation negates all the economic gains of the last fifty years!
When Obama was president I moved from Colorado to South Dakota. My new boss was a hard core Republican. So hard core he thought George Bush Jr. was a great president. He, with no evidence to back up his assertions other than his perceptions of things, decided the economy was in the toilet. He cut our hours to 30 a week and refused to turn on the AC in the shop in July because the economy was so bad.
Now, the truth of the matter was he was such a cantankerous old bigot he was driving customers away with his grumpy nature. His bigotry he freely shared with any customers who dared asked him how he was doing. He would reply with some variation of "Not good since they put that nigger in the White House." I heard him say this many times. I fully expected the Secret Service to raid the shop.
After his dog bit a customer he started trying to sell the business. A young couple from Minnesota heard of this and bought the company while Obama was still.president. Within a couple months of the change in ownership we were busy and pulling in a lot of money. Customers would actually say, "well, since the previous owner is gone we can start doing business with you again."
Perceptions and personal politics often color our judgements. Now I'm not saying I 100% agree with this article, but I am saying I've seen first hand how a bad attitude about the occupant of the white house can make one see only thorns and no roses.
It's been my experience that a state government impacts the economy far more than the federal government. Yes the feds mess with the money supply and Biden is all but having money printing presses put on C130s and spewing money out the back as they fly over the country but politicians have been doing that for.most of the 20th century.
Maybe it'd not as bad as you think?
Maybe it’d not as bad as you think?
Or, sarc, maybe as indicated below, we're looking at the data provided, noting that it doesn't necessarily or clearly support the conclusions presented, and realizing the obvious reasons as to why such contrivances would be undertaken.
Maybe you just like to feel like you are being repressed. It's a problem a lot of Christians have.
Mentioning facts about how bad the economy is means we like to feel oppressed? Do you actually believe that?
Fake anecdote.
Half of Americans own no stock, so the Dow matters little to them. A car loan that costs twice as much as three years ago, gasoline that is a third more expensive, and food that costs a quarter more is what they see every day. Rents are up and home loans cost much more, as well as interest on credit card debt.
If you live paycheck to paycheck the economy sucks.
The car thing is under appreciated. I’ve got a $400/month payment on a ten year old car I bought last august. My previous loan for the same make (about the same age car) with way worse credit was $276.
I bought a minivan for $1,000 last year. Sure it's old and has issues. But I don't have a monthly payment and that means a lot.
Maybe some of these whiney Republicans thought Trump was going to be president forever and went into too much debt so now they feel economic pain.
Nice dodge on the actual topic. (Pun intended).
Apparently being forced to drive a beater means the economy is doing great?
Trump-morons can't get over the fact that the economy is doing much better than since the Orange Gasbag left office.
GDP - much better
UE - best all time
personal income - up
business conditions - much better
personal wealth/stock market - much better
That's not what most people see. Most people see their expenses rising faster than their incomes and feel that the economy is terrible. They're focused on the here and now, not comparing the overall economy to that of decades past.
See: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/
That says that wages are outpacing inflation. Did you mean that? Because that's blasphemy in these parts.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/two_thirds_of_workers_say_incomes_haven_t_kept_up_with_inflation
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He’s flim flammed the numbers. Claims $118K net worth at age 30 ($86K w/o Real Estate included ) but the average wealth for that age is only $39K which seems to indicate the rich are starting to die off and hand their wealth (or a house) to their kids. Using ‘average’ wealth with no consideration of ‘median’ or inherited wealth and how it was earned is worthless drivel. If you want to return the economy to the Post WWII and the baby boom, deport every illegal and put a leash on Government, e.g. flat tax and a balanced budget without gimmicks. The explosion in GDP and wages might bring on another Baby Boom. At least I didn’t have to pay to respond to this drivel.
In a recent article, economist Jeremy Horpedahl looked at generational wealth (all assets minus all debt) and how today's young people are faring compared to previous generations. His findings are surprising. After all the talk about how Millennials are the poorest or unluckiest generation yet, Horpedahl's data show them with dramatically more wealth than Gen Xers had at the same age.
Holy Fuck! You're own-goaling yourself with this interpretation.
If Millennials had consistently done better than GenX, it would be reflected in the data. It isn't. What's shown is that Millennials were, again by your own data, *worse* than GenX 19-29 and then suddenly jumped to better at 30. A jump that rather overtly corresponds to the Dot-com and Housing bubble's popping in GenX's 30s. Meaning, the "greater accumulated wealth" is not actually accumulated wealth but simply a reflection of the fact that Millennials don't own houses and stock or businesses the way GenX did when the bubbles burst!
You're using a statistical, cognitive dissonance trick in order to make a statement your data doesn't support and it's obvious and doing so when, if you were right, you wouldn't even have to be making the lie in the first place.
The main statistic is disposable income. Whether individuals invest, save or spend their disposable income is a different question. Zero upward mobility can occur without disposable income and after the WEFs great reset, DI is non existent. Paycheck to paycheck after rent/mortgage, maintenance, food and healthcare without gifts from wealthy parents.
Bloomberg interviewed economist Pikettey, asked “what’s wrong with wealth inequality”? Had to cut to commercial he yelled “the country will become isolationist and lose free trade.
An interesting point on disposable income is that if a migrant in Colorado gets subsidies for all the expensive stuff; healthcare, housing, food, energy, daycare, a migrant can have more disposable income than someone making above median household income. Diversity Equity Inclusion
Still, you’re going to run out of other people’s money for the subsidies.
Don't believe your lying eyes everyone.
That fast food hamburger that now costs as much as a casual dining experience? Totally normal.
Horpedahl's analysis of generational wealth looked only at personally held assets and debts and completely ignored government debt. When you allocate out the government debt, the findings invert. In other words, when measured in aggregate across the entire economy, the gains in personal assets are being outstripped by the increases in government debt and total wealth is at best stagnant and maybe declining.
Cash equivalent subsidies are great for the economy until they run out of other people’s money.
What is the copyright for Creators.com? Was this shopped out? Seems kind of sketchy if this was a guest post.
That's exactly that. I see the same for stuff other authors have published in local news, like one writes for the OC Register and then republishes it here.
So I think if it was written for a different paper and republished here it'll have that tag on it.
"The Economy Is Doing Way Better Than Many Believe."
It sure is.
Just look how much lower the prices are under Biden than under Trump at your local grocery store.
Or housing, or energy prices, etc.
Or cars.
If I wanted to be condescended to by a shill for the status quo, I'd go to CNN. Are you trying to send me to CNN? My respect for this author has cratered instantly.
Here's your 10% raise. Too bad everything costs 23% more!
This amounts to pissing on our heads and telling us it's raining.
The 'inflation adjustment' since the 1990's is telling, let alone the 1980's.
Amusingly, the hiring wage for a McDonalds burger flipper is $17.50 where I live. Adjusting for inflation since the 1990's comes out to $8.75 or so, which is a mere buck fifty more than the current-day minimum wage.
A starter home in the area goes for a minimum of $550k today. In the 90's it was $82k. It's enough to wonder if the economic measures being used are poor or if there's some political interest in putting a thumb on the scales.
Such bullshit...the people I know are wrong because the people I don't know are doing better. Such bullshit. Get a real job. You remind me of Paul Krugman
"Nobel economist Paul Krugman gets trolled for saying inflation is over if you just exclude most of what people buy"
But he had the decency to not stand with a stupid statement in your piglike manner
Deaths of Despair climbing steadily but litte boy next door can now afford an Xbox at an earlier age than his brother.
Can't say I ever had respect for the author.
she says
"to erroneously claim that people were economically better off back then and call on government to fix an imaginary problem."
But people were better off, I KNOW THOSE PEOPLE, I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. And who is calling on government. The asshole who said "I will bring America back together" and "I am the man for the family" is neither. GROW UP VERONIQUE DE RUGY (nobody has that name)
Are you having a stroke? Or did you forget to switch socks for your ‘replies’?