Georgia Bill Would Hobble Bail Funds Even as It Expands Cash Bail
By definition, people assigned bail have been judged safe to release into the general population. Requiring them to post cash bail is needlessly punitive.

A new bill in Georgia would make it more difficult for many people to get bail, both by expanding the use of cash bail and by preventing bail funds from helping out.
Under a cash bail arrangement, an arrestee must put up a cash bond to secure their release before trial. If you show up to all the hearings and the trial, you get the money back; if not, the government keeps the cash. If you can't afford to pay, you can enlist the services of a bail bondsman, who will put up the cash for you but will charge you a percent of the total, which is not refunded.
And if one can't afford to do either, then your only option is to sit in jail until the trial date—even though, by definition, the court has ruled that you could safely go free until trial. It's a needlessly punitive system in which people who have not been convicted of a crime must essentially buy their way out of jail and are penalized for not having the money to do so. Bail funds are nonprofits that put up cash on behalf of low-income defendants who cannot afford to post bail.
Currently, Georgia law establishes the criteria under which judges may release a suspect on bail ahead of trial, including considerations for whether the person poses a "significant risk of fleeing" or "significant threat or danger to any person, to the community, or to any property in the community."
State law also lists a number of "bail restricted offenses"—felonies including robbery, aggravated assault, and "pimping"—for which bail cannot be assigned "unless an elected magistrate, elected state or superior court judge…enters a written order to the contrary specifying the reasons why such person should be released upon his or her own recognizance."
The law includes a stipulation that "the term 'bail' shall include the release of a person on an unsecured judicial release," which is defined as any release that does not require the person to pay a bond or surrender property.
Georgia Senate Bill 63, which has passed both chambers of the General Assembly and could soon become law if signed by Gov. Brian Kemp, amends those statutes to make the entire bail process more difficult. If enacted, the bill would change the definition of bail to "only include the release of a person by the use of secured means," such as cash bail, "professional bondsmen…or property."
The bill would also add over 30 new charges to the list of "bail restricted offenses," ranging in severity from voluntary manslaughter to criminal trespass to setting up or participating in drag races. The list would even include failure to appear in court, "provided that such offense is the person's second or subsequent offense."
It would also remove the judge's discretion, mandating that "no person charged with a bail-restricted offense shall be eligible for release by any judge on an unsecured judicial release."
Even more perniciously, S.B. 63 includes a targeted attack on bail funds. The bill would add language to state law that "no more than three cash bonds may be posted per year by any individual, corporation, organization, charity, nonprofit corporation, or group in any jurisdiction."
In other words, the bill would require that countless more offenders be subject to cash bail while simultaneously making it nearly impossible for anyone to bail them out.
Tiffany Roberts, public policy director of the Southern Center for Human Rights, told WABE on Tuesday that the bail restriction was "an infringement on free speech, because [the Supreme Court] has said corporations are people and that money is speech. So then, how do you impair the ability to express yourself, your will, by donating money to causes that you find worthy?"
S.B. 63 "unconstitutionally criminalizes poverty and restricts conduct protected by the First Amendment, and the ACLU of Georgia will sue if the governor signs this bill into law," that organization's legal director, Cory Isaacson, said in a statement.
Opponents of the bill feel that it targets protesters, specifically those opposed to the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center, a police and fire training facility currently under construction on city-owned land in a nearby forest, which opponents derisively call "Cop City." Three of the 61 defendants indicted last year operated the Atlanta Solidarity Fund, a bail fund used by many of those arrested while protesting Cop City.
S.B. 63 also adds racketeering, criminal trespass, domestic terrorism, and destruction of property to the list of "bail restricted offenses," all of which the Cop City protesters have been charged with or arrested for.
"It certainly appears to be part of a broader trend," Roberts said. "This bill predates many of the Cop City indictments—however, this language about bail funds did not exist in this bill prior to last week."
Regardless of the motivations, cash bail is an unnecessarily punitive system that punishes defendants more for being poor than for being dangerous or recidivist. If passed, S.B. 63 would lead to more people incarcerated, even as the state's jails face overcrowding. When the bill reaches Kemp's desk, he should veto it without hesitation.
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Removing cash bail has been an absolute damned fiasco for the morons who tried it. And not allowing outsiders to pay the bail (while accepting zero responsibility for what they do) makes sense.
Fuck the lot of those people.
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I know your head is generally straight up your ass, but do you really need links to the onslaught of news stories showing how horribly this has gone in places like NYC, Chicago, LA, SF, etc.? You know, the places run by people who believe as you do.
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Come on, show us you're computer literate.
NYC too obscure for you?
>And if one can't afford to do either, then your only option is to sit in jail until the trial date—even though, by definition, the court has ruled that you could safely go free until trial.
No. That is not what the court ruled, Lancaster. Are you stupid here?
The court ruled that you could go free *if you posted a bond that is sized to incentivize you not to flee*.
If the court thought you were no risk *at all* of fleeing or failing to show - then they would have released you on your own recognizance.
These articles are so bad, Mangu-Ward. A lot of these people don't seem to bother to understand the subject they're writing on, just pushing out surface level screeds that are based around bad assumptions - the other option is that this is all deliberate lying in order to push a narrative?
Courts would lose interest-free use of defendant's money if they didn't collect bond. That's why there are so few releases on recognizance. It has nothing to do with risk.
Nope. Bail funds are held in a trust account.
But also bail funds have only been allowed for marxist causes. Any right of center person that tries has the fund shut down instantly.
I’m talking about how the court handles bail funds received. They don’t earn profit from any interest. They are held in a trust account.
Bail funds are not held in interest bearing accounts. Learn about the topic before you start making excuses.
... Is there a reason why they aren't? Obviously you won't be playing the stock market with those funds, but surely they could put them in a savings account and get 0.5% or whatever. If innocent the interest should go to the defendant; if guilty it should go to court costs.
At its core, the bill removes 'unsecured bail'.
So the opening paragraphs about *secured bail* are fucking irrelevant in addition to Lancaster not understanding why someone gets assigned a secured bail vs an unsecured one.
Finally - the real questions at the core here are
1. Should unsecured bail exist. I think Lancaster and I both agree that it should be an option even if we would disagree on the details of when it should be applied.
2. How many people are getting unsecured bail in the first place. If its, like, 10 people a year in the whole state - then its not being used anyway, no loss.
3. When its used, how many of those people actually show back up to the full court, all the way to sentencing (if applicable) and how many are bolting?
4. What would be the minimum cash bail required if this bill passes? If you're sittin in jail for petty theft and you need to fork over 100 bucks in order to bond out - remember, bail is a surety to incentivize you to stick around for the trial, not 'payment to get out of jail' as Lancaster asserts - then . . . either you can afford that or why'd you steal a bottle of Tide in the first place?
"either you can afford that or why’d you steal a bottle of Tide in the first place?"
Really? You think everybody that steals something is Daddy Warbucks? And people never steal because they have little or no money? That is truly bizarre thinking.
How about all those folks in cities run by your fellow travelers that walk into retail stores, load up their carts and run out? Knowing that people like you have removed any consequences for theft.
I think if you're stealing a bottle of Tide to resell then maybe you should stack a couple hundos to the side to cover your bail and that you're not the sort of person to be let out to roam while waiting trial.
>Even more perniciously, S.B. 63 includes a targeted attack on bail funds. The bill would add language to state law that "no more than three cash bonds may be posted per year by any individual, corporation, organization, charity, nonprofit corporation, or group in any jurisdiction."
>In other words, the bill would simultaneously require that countless more offenders be subject to cash bail while simultaneously making it nearly impossible for anyone to bail them out.
1. Yes. Now make an argument why those offenses should be eligible for unsecured bail.
2. No, it makes it nearly impossible to bail out *serial criminals* who are being arrested 4+ times a year. If you get arrested once or twice a year everyone can carry on as normal. If you get arrested for the 4th time - you're gonna have to convince a different bondsman to bail you out instead of the one you've got the 'preferred customer' discount with because you've used their service so many times.
Normal people aren't finding themselves in jail 4 or more times in a single year. The 50 or so people I know fairly well have a cumulative *2* arrests (both for DUI) in the last 12 months. And these are 90% Mexican-Americans so you can't even say 'white privilege' here.
No, it makes it nearly impossible to bail out *serial criminals* who are being arrested 4+ times a year.
I don't think this is a correct interpretation of the proposed law. The limit isn't on the perpetrator, it's on the "bail fund" itself.
I.e.: "Joe's Let-Em-Go Bleeding Hearts, inc" can only use their funds to bail out three people per year, if they aren't a licensed "bail bondsman" firm.
Now, that's assuming I understood the proposed law correctly, which is not guaranteed. But I think that's why the one proponent of bail funds brought up the SCOTUS rulings about corporations as people and money as speech.
The law appears to be making a distinction between corporations which post bail for people and charge the bailee a percentage, and those that do it without charging the bailee a percentage.
Notionally, the latter are acting out of a sense of charity, though more often they are politically motivated. Those sorts of funds are the type that Kamala was pimping during the Floyd Mostly Peaceful Riots.
Oh, you may be correct - based on the excerpt in the article.
That part of the law is definitely bullshit. How TF is a bondsman supposed to exist if they can only have three clients a year?
I don't think it would affect licensed bondsmen. I suspect it was written to take on the leftie funded "get Antifa goondahs out of jail" Marxist "bail funds". Those don't charge their bailees to be bailed out, unlike a bail bonds firm. They're ideological, not economic in nature.
Different animals, even if they notionally serve a similar purpose.
>S.B. 63 also adds racketeering, criminal trespass, domestic terrorism, and destruction of property to the list of "bail restricted offenses," all of which the Cop City protesters have been charged with or arrested for.
1. Is this stuff you think protestors should be allowed to do?
2. They've shown themselves to be potentially violent so, IMO, they wouldn't be getting unsecured bail anyway - so the bill actually makes no difference here (more political grandstanding on the part of GA pols - and Lancaster).
This could be something that you point out Lancaster, that there's no need to single-out by name these crimes as people accused of them are unlikely to have gotten unsecured bail in the first place.
The cash bail requirement isn't for public safety, it's to give the defendant an incentive to appear in court when requested.
If the government does away with cash bail, it gives them the freedom to lock up political prisoners without bail. Cash bail is a bulwark of freedom against oppressive government.
On the contrary, we've seen very much in the past several years that cash bail has a very strong public safety incentive.
In no-bail states, there have been countless cases of serial offenders that are let out immediately and go right back to their crimes. This includes everything from shoplifting to stalking pop stars.
After all, if you can rack up 20-30 arrests and will not have to face the music for months or years due to the speed of the courts, why stop? If you had to be bailed out, you would quickly run low on funds, friends, or bondsmen willing to pay these funds.
Cashless bail can only work if there is a structure for remand for re-offenders that is used consistently.
Failing to acknowledge this makes the article not worth the pixels it's displayed on.
I don't think you'd run out of bondsmen. They'll probably keep posting your bail as long as you keep paying the 10% you don't get back to them, and don't look like a flight risk.
But yeah, you're probably going to run out of friends willing to front you that 10%...
*Bail/denial of bail* is a public safety measure - charging for bail is to incentivize you to stick around for the trial.
The issue with 'no money bail' in these jurisdictions is they've essentially gutted any ability of a judge to say 'no' to granting bail.
What country do you live in? I'm asking because here in the United States, bail isn't mandatory -- A judge may set bail at any amount that is not objectively unreasonable or may deny bail altogether. The Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibits "excessive bail" but does not state that courts are required to allow bail.
Nor should they be.
Which is kind of weird; an excessive bail and no bail amount to almost the same thing.
I'm guessing this bill is occasioned on coordinated actions wherein an organization anticipates multiple arrests and wants to prepare for them.
Interesting.
Forget bail funds, wouldn't that put all the bail bondsmen in Georgia out of business?
I don't think so. This is just a small excerpt and I highly suspect the part that exempts licensed bondsmen is in another section.
I would hope they aren't that bad at drafting bills
But who knows. I've seen some incredibly terrible bills.
Bail, and most sentences for crime, are just a total clusterfuck here.
Most crimes should not have a imprisonment penalty. One big reason being – most crimes should not, by default, become adversary trials. The reason they do is because the penalties are too harsh so people fight it. Further, imprisonment destroys the notion of restitution or compensatory damages. As if the state is the real victim here rather than merely the ‘objective’ adjudicator. Even worse when all of that is politicized and pols get votes by advocating harsher punishments.
Once the focus of sentencing changes – then bail becomes near irrelevant. If the sentence won’t be prison, then who’s gonna flee? If the sentence can be prison, then it is likely serious enough to have no bail.
And that slew of crimes that are focused more on restitution/compensatory than punishment, sentences morph into day-fines. X days income – same for everyone – either you pay or you sit in jail for that amount of time.
Not only that, but if the sentence couldn't be prison, why are you putting suspects in jail? Then the process is the punishment, or worse.
How do you get restitution from someone who doesn't have anything?
You gonna force them to work for the injured party? What ya gonna do if they refuse?
More to the point: What do you do when they "work", but their work has less value than the cost of supervising them? That's often why they were supporting themselves with crime in the first place.
Is anyone surprised that bail reform is being re-reformed back to what it was. One only look at what has been happening in every "blue" Jurisdiction across the US - thieves and violent thugs, even repeat offenders, are released with no bail or joke bail, and those considered to be politically correct prosecutions are being hauled over the coals.
And, somewhat related, need I mention the politicians, officials and lower courts who routinely disregard law and supreme court decisions who suffer absolutely NO consequences. Bail reinstatement being right or wrong, people are fucking pissed!
In other words, the bill would require that countless more offenders be subject to cash bail while simultaneously making it nearly impossible for anyone to bail them out.
aka *jams a spike in the revolving door*
I like it.
Joe pimping his pro-criminal Antifa cred. I'm not seeing anything here that is really worrisome unless you are a career criminal or on the side of career criminals against ever facing justice of any kind.
"an infringement on free speech, because [the Supreme Court] has said corporations are people and that money is speech."
No. Money is speech when you're spending the money on speech. Money is not speech when you're spending it on bailing people out of jail.
Once again, "I want to do this thing" does not convert your actions into speech, or else we couldn't have laws prohibiting anything.