Millionaire Mars Missions
Plus: Republicans are trying to expand a tax deduction they once wanted to cap, a "shocking" and "stunning" January jobs report, and street blocking protestors in D.C.
We're one step closer to a private, for-profit, libertarian utopia on Mars. Well, sort of anyway. This week, NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratories asked private space companies to sketch out how they would complete one of four different missions to the Red Planet, Ars Technica reported yesterday.
Those missions would include one for delivering a small payload of miniature satellites to Mars, one delivering a larger orbital spacecraft, one delivering an orbital image servicing spacecraft, and one for establishing a years-long communications relay between Mars and Earth.
Companies would be paid $200,000 for studying one of these missions or $300,000 for studying two of them.
Already NASA is making heavy use of private capital to get to orbit. Beginning in 2020, the agency started sending its astronauts to the International Space Station (ISS) via rockets owned and operated by SpaceX.
That first Crew Dragon mission was the first time a private spacecraft had carried humans into orbit. Once a headline-grabbing event, private human space flight has almost become routine, judging by the lower profile of each subsequent SpaceX launch. Just last month, SpaceX carried its first all-European, all-commercial crew of four people to the ISS in a mission paid for by a private space company.
NASA is also leaning on private space companies to deliver payloads to the Moon and develop spacecraft and other technology for an eventual human return to the lunar surface.
This isn't necessarily free market capitalism. It's still the government paying contractors with tax dollars. But the increasing use of private contractors for space missions does open the door for more completely private, for-profit space flight.
"In recent years, NASA has been evolving from 'owning' all of the rockets and spacecraft that it uses to explore the Solar System to a more services-based model," writes Ars Technica's Eric Berger. The agency invests some of the money necessary to develop privately owned spacecraft, which can then be hired by the government or private sector.
Republicans are trying to save their slim House majority by expanding the dreaded SALT deduction. The State and Local Tax (SALT) deduction does what it sounds like; it lets people deduct their state and local taxes from their federal tax bill.
It's almost exclusively used by high-income taxpayers in high-tax Democratic states, effectively subsidizing those state's high tax rates while shifting the federal tax burden onto everyone else. The 2017 GOP tax reform bill imposed a $10,000 cap on the SALT deduction, much to the chagrin of some Democrats who favor the policy.
But with the Republican House majority dependent on a handful of vulnerable Republican-held seats in New York, today's GOP is warming to the SALT deduction as well.
On Thursday afternoon, Republicans on the House Rules Committee advanced a bill that would raise the SALT deduction cap to $20,000 for joint filers making under $500,000.
"This is about fairness with our constituents being double taxed," said Rep. Mike Lawler (R–N.Y.), per Politico. "This is pro-family. This is about ensuring married couples are not being penalized in the tax code."
Americans are getting back to work. The January jobs report released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics this morning says that the U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs last month and the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent.
These numbers are beyond the projections of many analysts, who'd predicted the economy would add somewhere from 160,000 jobs to 275,000 jobs. That's enough of an overshot to get reporters to describe the jobs report as "stunning" and "shockingly strong."
Scenes from D.C.
Pro-Palestinian protestors are winning hearts and minds by blocking off traffic in front of the D.C. Holocaust Museum.
Protestors blocking the street in front of the Holocaust museum pic.twitter.com/BxoSYvDwiU
— Boris Zilberman (@rolltidebmz) February 1, 2024
The nation's capital obviously has a robust protest tradition, from civil rights marches to civil rights for Juggalos marches. The courteous thing to do is restrict your demonstration to the National Mall, which is made for this kind of stuff. The monuments provide great optics for your issue too, regardless of whether you like or hate abortion, want America out of a war, or want it more involved in one.
Disruptive street blockers will typically argue their cause is so important that it requires shaking ordinary people out of their apathy by extraordinary means. One could easily argue the opposite too; that a truly urgent moral emergency requires effective activism and message discipline so as not to alienate ordinary people who could just as easily not give a damn.
That's something for people trying to free Gaza from the street in front of the Holocaust Museum to consider for the next protest.
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- New York, New York, the greatest city in the world and America's largest, is experimenting with a new pilot program where people throw their garbage in a bin instead of dumping it on the street. We'll see if it sticks.
Here's a demo of New York City's new automatic side loading garbage truck lifting large on street containers. A pilot program is expanding to all of Community Board District 9 in West Harlem. pic.twitter.com/d9NmXaupOC
— Emma G. Fitzsimmons (@emmagf) February 1, 2024
- President Joe Biden has imposed sanctions on four Israeli settlers in the West Bank accused of attacking Palestinians and Israeli peace activists, the Associated Press reports.
- The federal government is easing some restrictions on opioid treatments.
- Joe Biden and Donald Trump are taking a relaxed approach to the South Carolina primary, spending little time or money in the state.
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The lack of immigration articles here has become deafening silence.
LOL
Just wait, Fiona will be along shortly to tell us how bad Texas is, why we should have totally open borders with a welfare state.
ya, probably the only thing we will get from reason is “I mean, SHOULD we be mad about open borders?!”
Ship the illegal aliens to Fiona’s front lawn. Let them piss and shit all over her property, trample her lawn, break-steal-destroy her personal possessions. Because that is what is happening across the country to American taxpayers.
Then let her come back and write an immigration article.
When can I sign up for the OPA?
Usual link after this kind of article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons
Republicans are trying to save their slim House majority by expanding the dreaded SALT deduction.
Let the fattest of the tax cattle move if they don’t like the high-tax pasture they’re in. You can always get a K Street job.
Pro-Palestinian protestors are winning hearts and minds by blocking off traffic in front of the D.C. Holocaust Museum.
You know who else didn’t want people to know about the Holocaust?
Pro-palestine?
What is this palestine they speak of?
There isn’t such a place, never has been.
The area contained the five cities (the Pentapolis) of the Philistine confederacy (Gaza, Ashkelon [Ascalon], Ashdod, Gath, and Ekron) and was known as Philistia, or the Land of the Philistines. It was from this designation that the whole of the country was later called Palestine by the Greeks.
Yeah, those guys were invaders, too.
As were the Hebrews. At least, if you believe the Bible.
The “Hebrews” and the “Canaanites” were of the same ethnicity and spoke the same language. The distinction between them was religious/political. The “conquest” of Canaan by the Hebrews was more of a civil war. The descendants of the Hebrews/Canaanites/whatever continued to be the dominant ethnic group in Palestine/Israel/Judah/whatever even as most of them changed from Jewish or Semitic Polytheism to Christian to Muslim.
The descendants of the Hebrews/Canaanites/whatever continued to be the dominant ethnic group in Palestine/Israel/Judah/whatever even as most of them changed from Jewish or Semitic Polytheism to Christian to Muslim.
This is almost certainly the correct account, and also includes the Palestinians, although the Palestinians may be descended from the “Sea Peoples.” Even so, they’ve been there at least since the time of the Judges.
I understand that people on both sides of this issue really, really want it to be a clear-cut case of Good vs. Evil, but it just isn’t.
It doesn’t matter. I read an article by a supposed historical journalist who was trying to imply that the Spanish Reconquest of Spain from the Muslims, it was the Spanish who were the colonizers. As if the Muslim Caliphate had always been in charge of the Iberian Peninsula until those dastardly European Christians took it away from them (oh and the whole enlightened Muslim Caliphate kind of ended about the time the Berbers took over in the 12th century and even before that it really wasn’t as tolerant or enlightened as the portray it as). I’m waiting for the article condemning Charles Martel for resisting the Islamic invasion of Frankish Gaul. Maybe some form of intersectionality. The Franks were oppressing the Roma-Gauls, therefore the Sultans forces were fighting against the oppressors and therefore it was wrong that the Franks resisted.
it was the Spanish who were the colonizers. As if the Muslim Caliphate had always been in charge of the Iberian Peninsula until those dastardly European Christians took it away from them
I agree that it doesn’t matter – I think blood-and-soil nationalism of any stripe is deeply misguided. I’m simply responding to the notion that the Israelis have some sort of historically-based right to collective ownership that the Palestinians don’t have. This is exactly why ethno-nationalism doesn’t work.
One big reason I’m not an academic anymore is noticing the extreme pushback I got when I suggested, 25 years ago, that we could look at Medieval Europe through the lens of post-colonial theory (I was literally scoffed at) and that it made more sense to view the Arab invasion of Spain as that of a more highly-developed society (Arab Muslims) dominating a less-developed one (Western European Christians).
As you point out, the “indigenous” population of Spain was Celtic and Iberian, whereas the “Spanish” were largely Franks and Visigoths. The “original” culture of Spain was curb-stomped by Romanism, which was then adopted by Franks and Visigoths as their own.
Nowadays, the whole thing is viewed through a post-colonial lens, but with the assumption (which I was trying to dislodge) that Europe has always been the over-developed bully in an underdeveloped world, which is just facially untrue of the medieval period.
IMHO, no one has ever had a “right” to a piece of land on account of their race.
Yeah, who came first? Which group hasn’t migrated and displaced another group, conquered them and or enslaved them? And the history of the Eurasian Steppe is basically one conquest migration westward after the next, because there basically isn’t anything to stop it, geographically.
These are the same types of people who work at the Associated Press and write that Israel “captured” Gaza in 1967, without mentioning why.
Palestinians may be descended from the “Sea Peoples.”
The prevailing view about the Philistines is that they came from the Aegean region at the time of the Bronze Age Collapse, and then were assimilated into the Hebrew/Canaanite culture.
Misek
Misek
Definitely Misek
Misek, beyond a doubt.
Misek? I did not see that coming.
I was Göring to say I saw what you did there, but I won’t.
You did nazi that one coming?
Misek, and his multiple persona?
Misek.
Roosevelt
MTrueman?
Shit, that motherfucker is going full-on Nazi below.
Saw that.
GreyBoxman
Him and Herr Misek are the only people I had to finally mute.
I have Misek on view still, Rev Artie (Loser) Kirkland is muted. And I think KAR. Other than spam-bots, it’s a very short list.
Dunno how you tolerate Sarc and Sqrl. SQRL is just an offense to the eyes with psychotic walls of text. Sarc used to be more reasonable, but became such a moronic shill that I can’t be bothered to see it.
“This is about fairness with our constituents being double taxed,” said Rep. Mike Lawler (R–N.Y.), per Politico. “This is pro-family. This is about ensuring married couples are not being penalized in the tax code.”
Bullshit.
This is about trying to make me pay more federal taxes so rich fascists can pay less taxes. I can’t vote against these New York “republicans”, so it is taxation without representation. We know how to deal with that in America.
We know how to deal with that in America.
REGULATOOOOOOOOORS! MOUNT UP! (and don’t forget your fire extinguishers).
Prior to the Trump tax cuts the standard deduction for a married couple was 12,700. It is now 27,700. The higher tax brackets were also reduced. If you’re paying more than that in SALT you’re probably not middle class. Most middle class taxpayers don’t bother to itemize their personal returns.
It double taxation here – but ‘dual-sovereignty’ is ok when it comes to crimes?
It is yet another subsidy for the wealthy = doubling SALT deduction. I guess forgiving the student loans of the wealthy wasn’t enough.
Spoiler alert: it won’t help them and will just piss off the base.
“Protestors blocking the street in front of the Holocaust museum”
IT’S OKAY FOLKS, they’re Democrats.
Also, it’s anti-zionism, not antisemitic, because Israel was probably a thing when the holocaust happened.
Say, did you hear that someone gave Trump an analysis of Hitler’s speeches once?
It’s really weird that we have holocaust museums in the US.
No it isn’t.
Go ahead then.
Make the case.
Same reason we have museums of ancient Egypt.
Know history.
LOL
And you wonder how “white people evil” became the dominant moral imperative
America has the world’s largest Jewish diaspora and this happened to Jews and not Israel the country.
Jews in the US are a much, much, much smaller portion than most other populations in the US who have ancestors that were foreign peoples victims of other foreign peoples in foreign lands.
They can have holocaust museums too. I think they’re building one on the Armenian Genocide.
The thing is that Israel wasn’t a country so the US is just as valid a location as there, the holocaust didn’t just happen Germany, and people who were US citizens died in those camps. No Israeli citizen ever died in those camps.
The US is the most invalid location possible for holocaust museums
Really? Why?
The “Jewish diaspora” is a myth.
PCA charts that show a 30 – 70% Bronze Age Levantine source in virtually every Jewish population (including Ethiopian Jews) says otherwise.
To showcase American benevolence having freed Western Europe from Nazi control.
Hahaahahahaahahahhahaahhahahahaahaahahhaahah
NYC is barely the US.
I haven’t been to the one in NY. I have been to the one in DC. (And in Berlin).
We have one here in St. Louis as well, but I haven’t been to that one.
Sounds like “the jews” won world War 2
Fortunately… there are hundreds of other museums and monuments throughout the US
It really isn’t.
LOL
No, it sure as fuck is.
12 million killed in the Holocaust (including a number of American citizens, including more than a few POE) Jews made up only half of that number. The Holocaust is not strictly a Jewish thing, but they were the largest victims of it.
Supposed to read POW not POE.
It’s really not, mainly because of what soldier said.
So we’re doubling the number now?
Wtf
25+ million Russians were killed, and they were actual allies.
It’s always been 12 million, six million of which were Jews. Fuck. I was taught that back in World History Class in high school in 1992. That’s not new information dipshit.
Yep, and percentage-wise, the two most affected groups were the Jews (about 2/3rds of Europe’s Jewish population) and the Romani (about 1/2 of the Romani population). No one seems to mention the Romani part for some reason.
Yeah, the Romani often get forgotten.
Certainly not any weirder than having art museums including art from foreign artists.
This is rather crappy point you’re making.
Hilarious how “libertarians” become Victims Studies proponents when it comes to worshipping this one event
“Hands off Yemen” – protestor sign
Any biologists out there want to handle this one?
Or he could just try drinking for one hand, stealing for the other.
Its spelled ‘Yemym’ you misogynist!
“Hands off Yemen” – protestor sign
Do they still chop off hands for stealing over there?
Wait till you hear how they deal with adultery.
Or homosexuality.
If they do, I suppose that would be the name of an anti-crime organization.
It’s not enough to not be a criminal yourself, you have to be actively anti-crime . . .
The January jobs report released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics this morning says that the U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs last month and the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent.
Watch, two months from now, this is going to be ratcheted down to below the original estimates as this administration lies about jobs numbers.
Heh.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/january-jobs-shocker-payrolls-explode-353k-double-expected-and-higher-all-estimate-wages
Anybody know anyone that was unemployed who just got a job?
Purely anecdotal data – my brother-in-law was laid off (along with his entire department inc. the VP) around mid-summer. He’s been applying and not received a single call.
My company (Fortune 500) has a full hiring freeze in IT except for contractors and has been doing rolling lay-offs all last year in a way to not trigger any type of reporting – roughly 10-15% across entire company. They are also shifting a ton of work to offshore.
We effectively outsourced a full department this past month. Not sure how many jobs were axed nationally, but around 20 disappeared at our branch. I’d be willing to bet that they didn’t hire anywhere near that many in FL to offset the workload being picked up there
Yeah the Jo’s thing is bs. They will come out on a random Friday mid Feb at 5pm and a ounce they have revised the numbers down
While all of this is clearly intended to create propaganda bulletpoints for the MSM/DNC I’m not convinced it will transfer into more votes for the regime. Most people are only paying attention to their personal economy and for a lot of us it still sucks no matter what numbers the bureaucrats puke up.
Biden’s BLS, where the numbers are made up and the points don’t matter.
Here’s a demo of New York City’s new automatic side loading garbage truck lifting large on street containers.
It would be nice if they could work AI into the mix there.
No Charges For Dem Staffer Who Filmed Gay Porn Video in Senate Hearing Room
Good thing he didn’t say a prayer for the Capitol police while wearing a buffalo headdress.
No charges, but they are keeping his deposit.
Any word on if he got a cleaning bill for removing the, uh, love stains from the carpet and furniture?
They should have had a blue dress to clean up with.
Must be nice to be a Democrat.
Turns out they gave him a pass because he was working with the capitol police to figure out who left their cocaine at the white house.
You know, between this, the Kraiger stuff below, Katie Hill, George Santos… I’m beginning to think Roy “Pillow biter” Cohn and the Lavender Scare was more of a “Trust me on this, I know what I’m talking about. These people have no business being in government.” situation. A bit like the regret about the 19A.
“This is about fairness with our constituents being double taxed,” said Rep. Mike Lawler (R–N.Y.), per Politico.
Seems like what is unfair are the excessive local taxes.
They’re not unfair – these are the people *who voted for those high local taxes*. They want them high in order to keep out teh poorz.
The problem is that they don’t want to actually pay them, so they’re paying them by refusing to pay their federal taxes on top.
Exactly. If you make $250k in TN, FL, or TX, you pay nearly $8000 more in Federal taxes than someone who makes $250k and lives in CA or NY. Fairness
Nobody ever wants to endure the costs of the policies they support.
Luxury beliefs.
Look what happend in Martha’s Vineyard, Chicago, NYC, and Denver the instant they had to deal with the consequences of their preferred policies.
Anyone couple less than $500,000 is poor, anyone retired making more than $25,000 gets their SS taxed and anyone with kids making less than $40,000 and not paying taxes gets a tax refund.
President Joe Biden has imposed sanctions on four Israeli settlers in the West Bank accused of attacking Palestinians and Israeli peace activists…
Biden’s handlers have discovered potential immigrants that they don’t like.
Colonialism only goes one way.
New York, New York, the greatest city in the world and America’s largest, is experimenting with a new pilot program where people throw their garbage in a bin instead of dumping it on the street.
We had been doing that in Tiffin, Ohio for at least 40 years. #highsociety
the greatest city in the world
Cite?
Your sarcasm meter is broken.
We’ve had automatic side-load garbage trucks here in flyover country for a good long while now.
They’re really amazing things, using only one person in the truck to grab the can and dump it into the truck.
Chicago on the other hand, still uses three people – one to drive and two at the back of the truck, all city employees.
No additional union supervisors?
I think one of the three is also a union supervisor, but don’t quote me on that. They’re all union, and all Department of Streets and Sanitation employees. Which is different than the Chicago Department of Transportation (CDOT) which actually maintains the streets.
Well they obviously need a DEI officer onboard.
Wouldn’t shock me if Mayor BJ added one to the crews.
That’s exactly where a DEI officer belongs.
In the back of the truck.
While the compactor is running.
Guys installing a new telephone pole in Columbus yesterday. One just absolutely working his ass off pounding the sidewalk with a sledgehammer. Seven… SEVEN… fuckers standing there watching.
It sucks being the new guy.
They usually have 2 guys running those trucks here. The driver gets out less often for any overflow trash and they can hit both sides of a street at once.
3 guys actually makes sense to me as the most efficient way to run their routes.
In Carroll County, MD we hire our own haulers. No governnent force needed and yet no litter.
#highestsociety
Where I live, we have to load our trash into the back of a pickup truck and drive it to one of several county-wide transfer stations. There are close to zero services provided. No water or sewer. No police. No trash pickup. No fire department except the all-volunteer one 10 miles away. County sheriff and I guess state troopers are pretty much the be-all, end-all of services provided. I suppose if I had kids, they would be eligible to go to school, too, but as it stands, no kids yet almost all property taxes paid are designated for schools.
Aren’t there any commercial trash pickup services?
The January jobs report released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics this morning says that the U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs last month and the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent.
Oh, the BLS. They’ve never been prone to exaggerating jobs reports.
It’s not like they have a Department of Adjusting the Previous Reported Numbers Down or anything.
My neighbor lost his job when his company relocated (fled) out of Illinois, I wonder if the BLS is counting those that transferred as new jobs. I recall back when, during giant whooshing sound of jobs going to China, they were counting hamburger flipping jobs as manufacturing.
The federal government is easing some restrictions on opioid treatments.
This is not good. That means they have another panic in the chute ready to go.
The clowns
The clowns? Oh, yeah, the clowns… we fight them too. Entire armies, spilling out of Volkswagens. We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending ’em in.
Agency Capture – Biden Allocated $1.2 Billion To The United Nations Relief And Works Agency (UNRWA). It’s Laced With Terrorist Extremists.
Biden Administration re-started Palestinian aid by pumping $1.2 billion through the United Nations aid agency. It was a reversal of the 2018 policy when President Trump had zeroed them out.
https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/agency-capture-biden-allocated-12
…However, according to the Israel intelligence dossier, approximately 10-percent of UNRWA’s 12,000 employees in Gaza have links to Islamic militant organizations such as Hamas and Palestinian Jihad. Furthermore, 49-percent of employees have “close relatives” who had “official ties” to the militant groups, “especially Hamas.” …
But, it’s 10% for the big guy, so it’s all good.
And they teach the kids great lessons like the jews a ficle and evil, and it’s an honor to marter yourself to kill them
I like the part where they actively participate in the raping to death civilian women and the hostage taking thing. It’s like they feel they don’t even have to hide it in a school or hospital anymore.
Joe Biden and Donald Trump are taking a relaxed approach to the South Carolina primary, spending little time or money in the state.
One is out of money and the other is out of lucidity.
Which is which?
Biden proved last time that the best campaign tactic is to stay in your bunker, issue a pre-recorded 40-minute video message every few weeks, and count on your supporters to produce box after box of mail-in-ballots to give you a record vote total.
Candidates could save a lot of money by copying his strategy.
Punxsutawney Phil predicts we’ll get an early Spring.
Rodent wishcasting.
Groundhog Day used to mean something in this town. They used to pull the hog out and they used to eat it. You’re hypocrites! All of you!
This is one time where television really fails to capture the true excitement of a large squirrel predicting the weather.
That seems totally impossible to not capture that level of sheer majesty.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/66890686@N02/51729268896/in/dateposted-public/
Groundhog day in NYC used to be exciting.
Groundhog day will come again on November 5 this year, as everyone relives a day they’ve already experienced.
Do we at least get Sonny and Cher on the radio at 6 AM?
Due to climate change its always a sweltering heat. Yep the earth has never been hotter than it is now
Hey, I just heard that Punxsutawney Phil predicts we’ll get an early Spring!
Hey, I just heard that Punxsutawney Phil predicts we’ll get an early Spring!
Lawmaker demands answers after Biden official implicated in Iranian influence scheme: ‘Unbelievable!’
A recent media report said Pentagon employee Dr. Ariane Tabatabai was tied to an Iranian government program
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lawmaker-demands-answers-biden-official-implicated-influence-operation
Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa, confronted one of President Biden’s nominees for a senior Defense Department position on Thursday concerning another administration official who was implicated this week in an Iranian influence operation on the U.S. government.
The exchange came during the Senate confirmation hearing for State Department counselor Derek Chollet to be the new DoD Under Secretary for Policy, when Ernst demanded answers on how Dr. Ariane Tabatabai, a senior policy advisor at the DoD who formerly worked at the State Department, was able to get, and keep, a security clearance considering her alleged involvement in the Iran Experts Initiative (IEI), an Iranian government operation to improve the country’s image abroad, according to a report by Semafor….
Shameless squatter who moved into pensioner’s empty home then sold it for £540,000 insists he didn’t ‘steal’ the property – and says HE has been left £255,000 out of pocket because of legal fees
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12824707/london-squatter-insists-didnt-steal-pensioners-home.html
More people need to lose their jobs at the LA Times, starting with whoever is in charge of the Opinions section
Remind me. Am I supposed to feel sympathy for all the journalist laid off? Schadenfreude? Or disappointment more haven’t been laid off?
Does delicious irony that the ‘Learn to Code’ class got replaced by AI count as Schadenfreude?
I think that’s pretty much the text book definition of shadenfreude.
President Erdogan sets up political party for ‘people with foreign roots’ that will ‘stand against anti-Muslim racism’ in Germany after country’s new laws granted 1.5million Turks the vote
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13022465/president-erdogan-political-party-people-foreign-roots-germany.html
Turkey’s President has set up a political party for ‘people with foreign roots’ in Germany that will ‘stand against anti-Muslim racism’.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced that the Democratic Alliance for Diversity and Awakening (DAVA), which was officially created on January 7, would take part in the European elections happening in June this year.
The party, which is an affiliate to the leader’s own party in Turkey, the AKP, has prompted immediate backlash and concern from other parties in Berlin.
Cem Özdemir, Germany’s agriculture minister who has a Turkish migration background wrote on X: ‘An Erdoğan offshoot running for elections here is the last thing we need.’…
It’s only colonialism and imperialistic if it goes one way.
The Hagia Sophia was always a Mosque.
And Castille reconquering Al Andulus was colonialism in action. The Spaniards were the conquerors, not the non-native Muslims.
So, since the Turks were never able to defeat the Holy Roman Empire on the battlefield, their now trying to defeat their descendants at the polls? I wonder if the Poles will ride to their rescue this time?
You ever smoke a pole?
You know who else was a ‘people with foreign roots’ in Germany?
The Romans?
The occasional Viking?
The huns?
Napoleon?
The US Army, British, French and Canadian Armies?
Also the Soviets
Czechs?
The Swedes?
First were the Danes, but they were less successful so the Swedes had to intervene.
Looking at the list, I’m thinking it might be better to ask which people with foreign roots haven’t been to Germany. I guess when you’re on the western edge of the Eurasian Steppe and bordered on the south by the alps, with two of the biggest river systems, and major trade routes and migration routes (the Rhine north of the Bavarian Alps, and the Danube south of the Bavarian Alps) you get a lot of ‘foreign visitors’.
Nancy Pelosi’s son Paul Pelosi Jr. dodges federal charges for the SEVENTH time after being linked to money laundering and mail fraud scheme involving a San Francisco Flop house
Bill Garlock and Gina Rodriguez will be sentenced in March on money laundering and mail fraud scheme charges involving a home linked to Paul Pelosi Jr., 55
The two are accused of duping investors out of over $1M for supposed real estate ventures – but instead used the cash for their own expenses
Speaking to DailyMail.com, financial crime experts question how Pelosi avoided charges himself, pointing to DoJ’s history of ‘protecting powerful political elites’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13023467/Nancy-Pelosi-son-Paul-Pelosi-Jr-charges-federal-case.html
He was supposed to wait until after he got elected like Mom did.
I for one am shocked, shocked, that the political class thinks they (and their children) are above the law.
And I wouldn’t dare to describe them as despicable and causing problems for the rest of society.
Really compared to a lot of politicians children, the Trump children are pretty upstanding citizens. Maybe it’s because they weren’t raised as political children.
I love how the article says that federal law enforcement protects “the politically powerful,” then gives examples of Democrats only.
Joe Biden and Donald Trump are taking a relaxed approach to the South Carolina primary, spending little time or money in the state.
Even they are scared of the immense power of the Murdaugh family. Anyone been following the craziness with jury tampering in that case?
No. Fill me in.
It’s a double murder case in South Carolina involving a family that’s prominent locally. The case ended up taking 6 weeks because the prosecution managed to convince the judge that all of the financial shenanigans this guy had been up to were relevant to the murder charge, when normally that stuff would be prohibited since it risks convincing the jury to convict on the basis of “This is a bad guy” as opposed to whether he’s guilty.
It comes out much later that the clerk of court, a member of court staff (who, oddly, is elected in South Carolina) whose job is entirely administrative, might have been making inappropriate remarks to the jury. Her only reasons to communicate with the jury are logistical concerns, like, “Here’s the plan for lunch today,” and “Does anyone need water?” She also wrote a book about her experiences in the trial that raised concerns about her having improper connection to the jurors. It also turns out she plagiarized sections of the book and had to stop selling it. But she had made comments about writing a book so she could buy herself some lakefront property during the trial to another clerk, and also comments about how the jury really needed to find him guilty.
Anyway, they had a hearing where, 10 months after the trial started, they had to bring back all the deliberating jurors and question them. One of them actually said that the clerk had influenced her verdict, which should have been a slam-dunk for a retrial, except that the judge walked her into saying that she was persuaded by the other jurors to vote for guilt, which is just a normal case of deliberation. Also, to complicate matters slightly, she’s the only one who substantiated certain allegations about the clerk, but she’s represented by a lawyer who is a very close friend of the defendant’s attorney. So there’s lots of speculation on the internets that she’s making it up after the fact or has been persuaded somehow, which ties into the narrative about the defendant’s family being very powerful and having a lot of sway in the community. There’s a big separate case in which charges were never brought about the defendant’s son in a case of drunken boating accident that killed someone, and that family is trying to sue this family.
It’s a whole big mess of drama and strange legal circumstances.
Sounds like par for the course nowadays. The North American legal system needs an enormous reckoning.
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/adult-survivors-act-linda-rosenthal/
Before Donald Trump faced 91 felony charges and the likely loss of his New York state business licenses in a massive civil fraud case, his first real taste of justice came when a jury found him liable for sexually abusing, and then defaming, the writer E. Jean Carroll last May, and awarded her $5 million. The law that let Carroll sue Trump for an assault she said happened in the mid-1990s was the Adult Survivors Act, which opened a one-year window for people who suffered sexual abuse to bring civil suits against their abusers. That window closed last week.
which opened a one-year window… That window closed last week.
Fedsurrection.
A law designed to help one person and hurt one person. Aren’t these called “bills of attainder”?
From a “slut walk” type of socialite who was notorious for publicizing her rape fantasies through multiple, random accusations.
Why deport for actual crimes?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/75-house-democrats-voted-against-deporting-criminal-migrants-who-commit-social-security
That second part is a bit buried in this post above…social security fraud AND drunk driving are fine by Dems, so longs it’s illegal aliens…
https://twitter.com/StephenM/status/1753088238057582951/photo/1
ALERT: Democrat Leader Jeffries and 150 House Dems just voted AGAINST deporting criminal illegal aliens convicted of DRUNK DRIVING.
Suburban moms, take note. Democrats think illegal alien trespassers who drink and drive should be immune from deportation. The party of NO BORDERS.
Woah hold off. Need to hear sarc and Jeff defend illegal immigrant criminals.
I’m surprised neither commented on this one. On the other hand, Sarc was busy trying to tell me that he didn’t have TDS while bringing up Trump and his dislike of Trump and his “defenders” in a thread where Sarc was the only one to bring up Trump, not even Greenhut, the author.
Start here: https://reason.com/2024/02/02/why-are-pickup-trucks-ridiculously-huge-blame-government/?comments=true#comment-10426512
Where did I say I don’t like Trump defenders?
Oh, I didn’t. So why say it? Because you, like your barking kennel mates, are allergic to honesty.
edit: I don’t like liars. If a Trump supporter is also a liar, well yeah I’m not going to like them. Not because they’re a Trump supporter though.
Let’s see, your half-ass backcronym “Trump’s Deranged Supporters” might just be a clue.
You’re just projecting your hatred for people who don’t like Trump.
Right.
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1752967434439663935
Judge Kathaleen McCormick rescinded Elon Musk’s $55 billion Tesla compensation package, overturning the company’s board and 80% of its shareholders.
McCormick also ruled against
@elonmusk
during his Twitter acquisition.
Before becoming the head of the Delaware Chancery Court, McCormick worked at a Delaware law firm called Young Conaway.
This firm and its employees have been major donors to President Joe Biden for decades.
In 2016, Hunter Biden hosted a gubernatorial campaign event for Congressman John Carney, with then-Vice President Joe Biden as the guest speaker.
This event took place at the Law Offices of Young Conaway in Wilmington, Delaware.
Carney, a close friend of Joe Biden for the last four decades, later became governor and nominated Kathaleen McCormick, a partner at Young Conaway, to her position on the Delaware Chancery Court.
In a March 2018 email, Hunter Biden claimed to personally know every judge on the Delaware Chancery Court while threatening legal action against his Chinese business partners.
“I will bring the suit in the Chancery court in Delaware – which as you know is my home state and I am privileged to have worked with and know every judge on the chancery court.”
After Elon Musk purchased Twitter with the stated goal of restoring free-speech, President Biden called for a federal investigation into Musk on the podium at the White House.
Following this, the Biden Department of Justice, Securities and Exchange Commission, and Federal Trade Commission initiated legal actions and investigations against Tesla, SpaceX, and X.
This recent decision by Judge McCormick, who worked with Biden’s top donors and was nominated by Biden’s close friend, to override Tesla’s board and the majority of its shareholders is another clear example of the Biden administration and its allies weaponizing the American legal system against their political opponents.
Tesla will reincorporate in Texas, as they should.
Nevada, according to Musk.
Doesn’t matter if you’re the world’s richest man, don’t talk smack against the Democrats.
^this
These are so obviously politically motivated that it should automatically get you kicked off the bench.
New James O’Keefe Undercover Video Exposes Dysfunctional Biden White House
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/01/31/new-james-okeefe-undercover-video-exposes-dysfunctional-biden-white-house-n4926017
Top White House Cyber Official tells O’Keefe in Disguise “they can’t say it publicly” the White House wants to replace Kamala Harris and Confirms President @JoeBiden mental decline: “Biden is definitely slowing down.”
“I’m just telling you what I’ve heard… they’re really concerned about it”
…“I think they need to get rid of him or her.”
“But no one in modern history has ever said, like, ‘We’re not going to renominate the president for a second term.’”
LBJ would beg to differ.
“Top White House Cyber Official” means someone 30, maybe 40 yrs. old, tops. “Modern History” dates back to the middle of the Carter Administration for them.
They’ll gently put him down (heart attack/stroke) and have Michelle Obama and Gavin Newsome ride in on white chargers to defeat the dragon Trump by 500 million votes.
Meh, Charlie Kraiger = Miles Taylor/= Top Official.
Also
“She will be the vice president nominee. There was a debate about removing her from the ticket, but sadly they didn’t, she’s not popular, but you can’t remove the first black lady to be vice president from the G***amn presidential ticket. Like what kind of message are you going to send to like African-American voters…People would be like, “What the f**k?” Like she’s a woman and she’s multiracial.”
There’s an easy path forward. Biden wins when the ballots are counted on the day after the election, but then drops out for health reasons before the Electoral College vote, leaving his sworn Electors free to vote for whomever they please. And since that will be Gavin Newsom, they can’t have a VP from the same state, and have to pick someone else.
Insurrectional lawfare.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_b336f508-c13e-11ee-ba5c-9768980ea63e.html
Ban Trump from the ballot in states they control. Exclude EC votes from states they don’t control (for siding with Texas on the boarder). Replace Biden at the last minute (Dem rules allow that if he drops out in August).
Protect democracy by having the Dems appoint a President.
And they’re all arrogant enough to be sure that it will work.
What’s going to stop it?
Nobody, but that doesn’t mean it will work.
Just fortifying elections for the safety of democracy!
How to Talk to Your Kids About the Situation With Iran
https://time.com/5760199/how-to-talk-kids-iran-soleimani/
Why don’t the U.S. and Iran get along?
The U.S. and Iran have a difficult relationship. It’s been this way for many years. In 1979, Iran took 52 American diplomats and citizens hostage. They were released after 444 days.
In 2018, tensions increased again after President Trump said the U.S. would no longer participate in a 2015 deal with Iran. This international agreement set strict limits for 15 years on Iran’s ability to create nuclear weapons. In return, the U.S. and countries in the European Union agreed to end trade restrictions. When Trump pulled out of the agreement, the U.S. put trade restrictions back in place. This has hurt Iran’s economy.
NBC News hypes live coverage of terrorist Qassem Soleimani’s burial in Iran
https://www.theblaze.com/news/nbc-news-hypes-live-coverage-of-terrorist-qassem-soleimanis-burial-in-iran
“Why don’t the U.S. and Iran get along?”
I wouldn’t be surprised if the conflict in Gaza led to a warming of relations between US and Iran. Neither side wants to escalate the tensions, the US grows frustrated with Israel’s intransigence, and Iranians are likely to exploit any divisions by concessions that will deepen them. The US too will realize that warmer relations with Iran will give it extra leverage over Israel at little or no cost.
You could not be more wrong.
You mean I would be surprised? Maybe so. Depends on just how warmer the relations get.
Here’s a clue for the clueless, misconstrueman, our issues with Iran have very little to do with Israel. Look up the following, 1953 coup, and 1979 revolution.
“Look up the following, 1953 coup, and 1979 revolution.”
Ancient history. Do you really need me to remind you of the Vietnam war? Vietnamese killed Americans in numbers far greater than anything the Iranians managed. And humiliated America too. Yet Vietnam today enjoys partnership with the US. Granted Vietnam doesn’t have Iran’s huge fossil fuel reserves, but that’s another issue. Crisis events like Gaza also provide opportunities which can dramatically change the political landscape. Do I also need to remind you of WWII and what happened when Hitler invaded the USSR?
Everything in the past plays into what is going on currently. Those who are ignorant of the history are a) doomed to repeat it, and b) never learn the lessons of why we are here.
Feel free to add anything besides platitudes and cliches.
I’ve added history. You refuse to learn from it. Instead, you continue to spout nonsense.
“You refuse to learn from it.”
You’re not being clear. I’m familiar with all of your platitudes, and heard them many times before. I’m familiar with the history you refer to. I’m speculating that the crisis in Gaza might lead eventually to warmer relations between US and Iran. We’ve already seen some evidence of this with US not retaliating over the deaths of 3 service persons, with Iran withdrawing personnel from the area and making conciliatory remarks (not reported in Reason, I grant you).
A warmer relation between US and Iran could be mutually beneficial and beneficial to the planet at large, with the possible exception of Israel. If you have anything interesting to say in response to these speculations, feel free to add them. Otherwise find someone else’s heels to nip at with your inanities.
A warmer relationship between the US and Iran was flushed down the drain in 1979.
“A warmer relationship between the US and Iran was flushed down the drain in 1979.”
There’s a Democrat in the White House. You elected him back in 2020. Even Reason covered this.
It’s also worth noting that what is important for people to understand is also important for countries to understand: it’s not always about you. Yes a lot of our troubles with Iran stem from some very ill-advised foreign policy decisions after WWII and into the future. But some of it is simply our alliance with Iran’s main direct competitor, Saudi Arabia. Iran and Saudi Arabia are unlikely to get along any time soon regardless of what the USA does. Picking a side in that conflict obviously draws a target on us.
“Iran and Saudi Arabia are unlikely to get along any time soon regardless of what the USA does.”
Their relations are warming. But you’re correct, it has nothing to do with the US which arguably benefits from poor relations between the two gulf powers. In case you missed it, last summer diplomats from both countries met in Beijing to re-establish diplomatic relations after years of frosty relations. Another thing you’ve apparently missed is that from Jan 1 this year both Iran and Saudi Arabia have joined the anti-American BRICS block. If Reason covered neither of these developments, all the more evidence you need to look elsewhere for news coverage, especially if it’s non food truck related.
Saudi Arabia isn’t in BRICS, they were invited to join, they have not accepted. Try again with them warming up too each other, lol.
“Saudi Arabia isn’t in BRICS, they were invited to join, they have not accepted. ”
I did not know that. Any word on the situation with Saudi food trucks?
Nope. Iran (and China) will just be lucky if the USA doesn’t cripple their oil market with cruise missiles. If anything the USA should be using this as leverage over China.
“Iran (and China) will just be lucky if the USA doesn’t cripple their oil market with cruise missiles.”
I doubt that will happen, and I think it will be because of calculation of what serves American interests and nothing to do with luck.
” If anything the USA should be using this as leverage over China.”
Warmer relations between Iran and America could conceivably be used as leverage against China, but we’re not anywhere close to that yet. Baby steps.
And not a single word about the 1953 coup, nor about all that Carter did, first with the Shah, and then after the embassy was taken, nor about all the shit done by the mullahs?
Washington Post criticised, and lampooned, over Baghdadi headline
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50205592
The Washington Post faced criticism on Sunday for calling Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State group who had died the day before, an “austere religious scholar”.
The newspaper amended its headline to call him an “extremist leader”.
Vice president of communications Kristine Coratti Kelly said the headline “should never have read that way and we changed it quickly”.
Baghdadi detonated a suicide vest during a raid by US special forces.
His death was announced by President Trump in a nationally televised address on Sunday.
The first version of the Washington Post’s headline called Baghdadi “terrorist-in-chief”, before it was changed to “austere religious scholar at the helm of Islamic State”.
It must be Groundhog Day, I’m reliving this story from 5 years ago.
Import foreign troops to oppress Americans. AKA Treason.
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1753065151563997284
I believe there is a strong possibility the US is recruiting illegal immigrants into the Army.
With fear of WW3, several nations calling for conscription, and a recruiting shortfall, I dont believe the US would simply ignore the risks
hence the video of what appears to be a drill sergeant guarding illegal immigrants at the Atlanta airport
Durbin already said it needed to happen; I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Austin and General Brown directed such recruitment efforts.
And make no mistake, this isn’t about preparing for war against Russia or China, although that’s the rhetoric–it’s because Zoomers in general aren’t signing up to fill even today’s pathetic recruitment quotas after 20+ years of pointless conflict, and conservative military veterans don’t want their kids under the command of the wokey assholes in the current administration.
And with the administration doing more and more to alienate roughly half the country, thanks in no small part to the neomarxist commissars throughout the federal government creating such policies, the probability is quite high that these new recruits will effectively be foreign mercs that will be trained to go after Americans, not the Russians or Chinese, as they will have no other loyalty to anyone or anything other than who’s paying them.
Michael Lind says that this is due to the Dems’ fracturing native citizen base in a recent Tablet article:
[T]he Democratic Party is an alliance of interests threatened with long-term demographic decline–declining industries, declining states, declining cities, declining churches and nonprofits. These civic downtrodden have united around the hope that they can reverse the unpopularity of their offerings among U.S.-born Americans by importing new citizens en masse.
A politics founded on this idea–namely, that if not enough American voters like what you are offering, you should compensate by importing supportive voters–may seem like something from Alice in Wonderland. But that’s exactly what the leadership of the Democratic Party is doing, by refusing to enforce existing immigration laws and preventing states from securing their borders–while counting on the Democratic bureaucrats and judges to enforce the dubious legality of such moves.
You’re just saying that cause you hate Democrats!
‘Drill Sergeant’ isn’t a rank – its a position. He’s the person in charge of training a group of recruits. In Basic training, not under the airport. They don’t guard people.
Plus, I watched the video – didn’t see anyone in uniform.
The guy sitting in the chair to the left of the frame appears to be wearing ACU and a round brown (campaign hat). However, it isn’t in frame so it’s hard to tell. Also, he seemed more relaxed than most drills, definitely no military bearing.
His unit patch, it’s blurry, so I can’t make it out clearly looks like it’s from the 201st troop support command of the Georgia National Guard, which does have drill sergeants, as part of their mission is training soldiers. There are both reserve and guard drill sergeants. I never dealt with them, but I knew some who belonged to units whose mission included basic and or AIT drill sergeants when activated and whose Annual Training included two weeks of being a ‘drill sergeant’ (my son had one for awhile, said they were worse than the active duty drills). I went in the fall and they generally do AT in the summer rotations. It would make sense if there is a lot of migrants coming through Georgia that the Georgia governor has some guardsman on duty, and the 201st or the the MP detachment would be tasked with such duties.
Correction 201st Regional Support Group.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/201st_Regional_Support_Group and according to wiki they do have MP units subordinate to them also.
Netherlands backs euthanasia for terminally ill children under-12
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54538288
Well good, we didn’t need doctors and nurses wasting their time looking for any possibility of saving them.
Here in Canada poverty, homelessness, mental illness and a non-life-threatening physical disability will also earn you a euthanasia recommendation from a government agency.
But the difference between us and the Nazis is we’re ‘compassionate’.
No chance a cure might be discovered for an 8 year old in the next 60 years.
The children are terminally ill is there some reason that the Dutch people would not allow them the dignity in death that they allow for others? Maybe you are one of those that think people have to suffer in pain until the last minute. I am not so.
We are always 100% correct on diagnosing terminal diseases in children, so we should put hem out of their misery, but we can’t execute murderers because we might get one wrong.
Hey, those 12 year olds might turn into hardened criminals.
THEN we will protect them.
They’re not dogs, you fucking ghoul.
Trust me, for progs like Moderation4ever, kids are lower than dogs.
We could dress them up as dogs, then cops will just jump at the chance to shoot them.
The euthenasia isn’t *limited* to the terminally ill though.
And, as we see in Canada (and elsewhere in Europe) if its not limited then it will be expanded.
As we have seen in both the Netherlands and the UK, the state can decide to euthanize patients or withhold medical care no matter what the patients’ or their families wishes are. Fuck, the Dutch government forced a woman to follow through with her euthanasia after she changed her mind.
Medical care is a limited resource and the allocation of that resource can be a person hands, an insurance company or a government run program. Some countries do ration care, in the US care is usually rationed by the patient’s insurance company. In many countries people benefit from national healthcare but must accept that that care may be rationed. Many of these same countries have better overall satisfaction with their health care systems.
As for the euthanasia case mentioned this patient had dementia. She had chosen euthanasia and the point when she wanted to die. When she was euthanized she had a significant level of dementia and it is unclear what her true wishes were at the time. I think this is a difficult issue, especially as dementia is likely to be more common. Whether it is euthanasia or other end of life care decisions, people are encouraged to make plans while still mentally and physically competent. How do we treat those plans when a patients move to a point in an illness when they can no longer make real decisions? The case involved euthanasia, but lets take something more accepted. If at the start of an illness you ask for a non resuscitation order, now does that order stay in effect if you develop dementia?
It doesn’t matter if she has dementia she still has a right to decide her own medical care. I take care of patients with dementia, among other problems, and we can’t force them to take medications or undergo medical procedures they want. And no, the government shouldn’t decide for someone when they should die. Fuck off with that tyrannical bullshit.
The patient did decide on her medical treatment early in her illness and the question is that decision still valid as her dementia progresses? Answer that question.
So she can’t change her mind? Fuck that. She can change her mind at any time.
And having dementia does not exclude you from having day in your own personal healthcare. It’s still your body, you don’t lose your right to decide your own care. No, her answer is not still valid, just because her disease has progressed. Period. That goes against all medical ethics.
And better satisfaction except those who did as a result, or have loved ones die. But hey, a few broken eggs aniright? Fuck you leftist aren’t even hiding your fascism anymore, what with MTrueman going full on anti-semeitic and you praising eugenics (because that is what you’re preaching, the government deciding who does and doesn’t live).
I am not suggesting eugenics in anyway, I am suggesting that healthcare is a limited resources and it is limited in a number of ways. For some it may be the government that says we will not provide for some illnesses or for people above a certain age. The same is true for insurance companies. For the individual the rationing may be money. I am happy with my health insurance, but what about the person who illness is not covered by the type of insurance? I was there as my son needed a surgery my policy would not cover. I had to do a lots of work to arrange for my son to get the surgery. Very happy that I did that work. This is not eugenics, this is the market place that says there are limits on resources.
It’s been stated by people on this side for years that socialist medical systems were unsustainable, and that euthanasia was an inevitable policy once that became apparent. It’s the left and the moderates who played “extend and pretend” until the laws of thermodynamics asserted themselves who were in denial about it.
Rationing based on inalienable characteristics is a form of eugenics. SMH.
“Medical care is a limited resource and the allocation of that resource can be a person hands”
Fuck you. Seriously, fuck you sideways you death ghoul.
under-12
You misspelled “before the 51st trimester”.
Colorado State Rep Blasted for Saying ‘Misgendering’ and ‘Deadnaming’ Not Allowed in State Capitol
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/02/01/colorado-state-rep-on-dead-naming-n2392425
It’d be nice if state reps had the tiniest inkling of what is actually legal.
I’m familiar with Leslie Herod, as one of the vermin lawyers running the lawsuit to get Trump off the state ballot, Mario Nicolais, was part of her Denver mayoral campaign team.
She’s a typical race-baiting Critical Theory-spouting bobblehead, and a great example of why a strategic nuke needs to be dropped on Colfax and Broadway.
Even the Colorado Libertarian Party got in its licks on this mongrel:
Libertarian Party of Colorado @LPCO I don’t know who needs to hear this, but democrats hate free speech. The locked comments is just the cherry on top
“This is about fairness with our constituents being double taxed.”
Yay! No more sales/property taxes for people who pay income tax!
Where do I sign up?
But I have to pay for that “double tax” that I had absolutely zero say-so over?
Yeah, that is a great deal.
“One could easily argue the opposite too; that a truly urgent moral emergency requires effective activism and message discipline so as not to alienate ordinary people who could just as easily not give a damn.”
That’s a cynical argument – that ‘ordinary people’ will be driven to support or ignore genocide out of spite because they are momentarily inconvenienced. I doubt such calculations enter the minds of the people doing the blockading.
“The courteous thing to do is restrict your demonstration to the National Mall, which is made for this kind of stuff.”
A blockade is not a demonstration. It’s rather a form of direct action to confront the state, an easy way to throw a wrench into the works and actually get the attention of those in power. Something a demonstration off in an isolated park won’t do, no matter how photogenic the surroundings.
A blockade is not a demonstration. It’s rather a form of direct action to confront the state, an easy way to throw a wrench into the works and actually get the attention of those in power. Something a demonstration off in an isolated park won’t do, no matter how photogenic the surroundings.
As long as it’s not on January 6th.
Jan. 6 is a hybrid. Part demonstration, part occupation, part attack on government functions, part attempt to hang Mike Pence. It was too disorganized and confused about its goals to be effective.
The Palestinian protests in Washington are a much better example. After almost 4 months they are going strong without let up. There was a massive pro-Israel demonstration in Washington back in October, I believe, where protesting students were bussed in and paid $250 to attend, but nothing since then.
“Jan. 6 is a hybrid. Part demonstration, part occupation, part attack on government functions, part attempt to hang Mike Pence. It was too disorganized and confused about its goals to be effective…”
It’s spelled “protest”, shit-stain.
The Pro-Israel side tends to have jobs.
Time to severely reign in tax-exempt orgs that are just political activism and that is all.
“The Pro-Israel side tends to have jobs.”
My point exactly. Their love of Israel only goes so far. It ends with any need to sacrifice time or effort for something other than purely personal matters. ‘Virtue signalling’ is the term we internet commenters use to describe such phenomena.
And yet you decline to go to Palestine and fight.
“And yet you decline to go to Palestine and fight.”
The Palestinian cause is better served by Americans pressuring the American government. Palestinians are more than capable of fighting their own battles.
Your desire for me to go to Palestine, put my life on the line and kill Jews, only speaks to your contempt for human life. Not a good look. It’s understandable why you post your cowardly suggestions behind a pseudonym.
Somebody has to do the killing, why shouldn’t it be the interested parties?
“Somebody has to do the killing,”
The problem isn’t a shortage of people doing the killing. The problem is too much killing. That’s what these blockades are all about. Blame Reason’s shoddy coverage if you weren’t aware.
If killings are the problem, I suggest more violence until fully exhausted.
We won’t have to worry about Palestinians afterwards.
“I suggest more violence until fully exhausted.”
As long as it doesn’t inconvenience your commute. Then you draw the line. Don’t you see the moral bankruptcy of your position?
Your desire for me to go to Palestine, put my life on the line and kill Jews,
I never said anything about you killing anyone. I just want you to put your life in the line.
“I just want you to put your life in the line.”
More cowardly suggestions. Got anything interesting to say?
Yeah, fuck off.
Do you have a job, mt卐ueman?
How come you’re not in the Levant right now shooting Jewish schoolkids?
“How come you’re not in the Levant right now shooting Jewish schoolkids?”
I do what my Iranian-backed paymasters order me to do. Any more questions?
Since when was ActBlue and MSNBC hot takes “Iranian”?
“My point exactly. Their love of Israel only goes so far. It ends with any need to sacrifice time or effort for something other than purely personal matters. ‘Virtue signalling’ is the term we internet commenters use to describe such phenomena.”
mtrueman coming out in support of temper tantrums.
“…That’s a cynical argument – that ‘ordinary people’ will be driven to support or ignore genocide out of spite…
Most ordinary people do oppose genocide, but not your Nazi-defined “genocide”, shit-stain.
The most effective way to support Palestine would be to jump on an airplane and get your dumb ass over there and fight for your stupid cause.
I’d chip in for misconstrueman’s one-way ticket.
I disagree. As I said, a blockade is an easy way to confront the state. And our Palestinian brothers and sisters seem more than able to fight their own fights on their own lands. What they need is pressure on the US government, and that is best done in Washington, where the blockade took place. You’d understand all this if you put aside your emotional response against Palestinians and their American supporters and gave the matter some thought.
And our Palestinian brothers and sisters seem more than able to fight their own fights on their own lands
So the protesters asking our government to “do something “ is pointless.
“So the protesters asking our government to “do something “ is pointless.”
They have a point, but the question is about effectiveness. But your idea is correct, as with demonstrations in general. Which is why demonstrations are tolerated and promoted by the likes of Reason, every time direct actions like blockades or occupations take place.
“They have a point, but the question is about effectiveness…”
Yeah, pitching antisemitism isn’t real popular anymore.
Yeah, why run the risk of getting shot for lobbing random rockets into public areas, raping women and children when you can sit in your easy-chair spouting Nazi antisemitic lies?
“And our Palestinian brothers and sisters seem more than able to fight their own fights on their own lands.”
The Palestinians survive because of Israel’s grace and mercy. They could snap a finger and turn them to dust. They have no ability to wage an actual military campaign, and absolutely in no way can fight this on their land or any other. This is why they resort to terror attacks against civilians and firing rockets from afar.
Israel instead are having their own young men going door to door risking their lives to minimize civilian casualties.
Probably the best thing to do from their perspective would be to give a couple weeks warning, tell the neighboring muslim countries its best if they take in their palestinian brothers who they apparently love and care about so much, and then turn the region to glass, before cleaning it up and claiming it as beachside property. Which is the price you pay for fucking around. These have been the rules for all of human history, the terrorists need to be wiped out
“They have no ability to wage an actual military campaign, and absolutely in no way can fight this on their land or any other. This is why they resort to terror attacks against civilians and firing rockets from afar.”
‘They’ is Israel? I think you are being too negative. Israel is doing very well in killing women and children, leveling hospitals, churches, schools and houses. Their ability to neutralize the militias is what’s lacking. Also the ability or desire to free the hostages is particularly notable, though you fail to mention.
Yes Israel has no military capability…
“Yes Israel has no military capability…”
Too pessimistic. Israel is blessed with the finest military in the world when it comes to massacring women and children, leveling hospitals, schools, churches and homes. True, it’s not so capable when it comes to freeing hostages or countering the militias, but that’s beside the point when the game is genocide.
They need to treat Hamas the way we treated the Nazis post-WW II.
Yup. Death for Hamas, death for anyone helping Hamas, and shame/punishment for any useful idiots. You cant live next door to someone who does something like this, scorched earth, and whoever lives through it, they have to know hell will rain down on them if they step a toe out of line.
No mercy for terrorist scum
The terrorist group, in the terrorist state, with a terrorist govt, elected by the people who still overwhelmingly support both Hamas, as well as the oct 7 attacks, caused what is happening to them. The fact that the country is mostly young, violent, radicals is also causing what is happening to them. The fact that their slogans involve versions of ‘death to the jews, death to israel, death to america’, is also causing what is happening to them.
They have two options. Fully surrender all hostages and present for execution. Or they can hide behind their own citizens and get them killed. The blood is on their hands.
Your histrionic whinging about ‘muh genocide’ is fodder for wapo comments, if you want to try and sell it there. No one gives a shit about your virtue signaliing that isnt based in reality, and they wont give a shit when more terrorists are wiped from the earth
“They have two options. ”
I’m beginning to see a third option. After months of not rescuing a single hostage or stopping the attacks on Israeli cities or military, Netanyahu will ditch the impotent right wing extremists in his coalition and embrace Hamas and ceasefire crowd. Bibi’s first priority is Bibi, and he’s already had a long history of promoting and strengthening Hamas to further both them and his career.
Black Genocide, Trans Genocide, and now Palestinian Genocide. What is it with leftists and Genocides?
They don’t actually understand what genocide is?
Could be a bit of projection regarding what they wish to do to their enemies. They aren’t the most imaginative bunch.
That’s a fair point. They ARE masters of projection after all.
While screaming everyone is a racist is getting less traction so they have to come up with something else to hype. Guess genocide it is (except the ignore actual genocide in places like Sudan, the Caucuses and Niger since it’s just Christians being targeted).
Opposition to genocide is not a bad thing. It’s the moral thing to do, especially when one’s nation is complicit. Your attempt to deny, justify or minimize genocide in Palestine while paying lip service to atrocities elsewhere is despicable.
A targeted attack to root out a terrorist organization bent on your own genocide could only be described as “genocide” by those who are habitual liars or intent on changing the topic from the reason the targeted attack was started, and deflecting blame from those who could have prevented such an attack merely by maintaining the previous ceasefire, or surrendering at any time.
“A targeted attack”
I’m not sure what you mean by ‘targeted attack.’ Is that a term you’ve picked up from Israeli spokespersons?
An attack aimed at razing an apartment block or school or church killing dozens of sleeping women and children while militants are safely ensconced a dozen meters in underground tunnels. Hardly anything a self respecting military would want to boast about.
Like many here, you’re moved to excuse and justify genocide rather than deny it’s taking place. Not a good look. May your next commute be an inconvenient one.
The urgent moral imperative for those who view it as genocide isn’t to protest in their hometown, its to go join those who are resisting it and help them fight. I would say funneling them money would be an option, but generally and morally and legally, that would be viewed as aiding and abetting a terrorist organization, which is hugely frowned upon.
” its to go join those who are resisting it and help them fight.”
If Palestinians want such help, surely they’d put out a call inviting international brigades to come and join the fight. Much like the Leftists did during the Spanish Civil War. Or they might put out a call for those who support their cause to murder Jews and commit acts of terror on their behalf. I’m not familiar with any such calls. What are you basing your argument on? I suspect your ‘moral imperative’ is merely disingenuous moral grandstanding. I’m right, aren’t I?
Good news for capitalists, Peanuts.
World Trade Data Begin to Show Early Signs of ‘Reglobalization’
Vietnam, Mexico, India are among gainers at China’s expense
Trade-landscape transformation has started but will take years
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-06/world-trade-data-begin-to-show-early-signs-of-reglobalization
Article from last year but the USA is realizing the fruits today.
Jobs up 353,000! Thanks Sleepy Joe!
“Article from last year”
LOL
I have something more recent.
Only 24% of Democrats say they are better off financially under Biden, poll says
You’re such a shameless partisan hack that even most *Democrats* don’t buy your cheerleading for the Biden economy.
Kind of like when Dems called their economic program the “Inflation Reduction” Act when you swore inflation was a fake issue.
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
I put America first, Sandy.
Jobs for everyone, high GDP, record stock market highs, manufacturing returning, wage gains.
#BidenEconomicBoom
turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud to be!
I put America first, Sandy.
Bullshit. You put the WEF and Soros first, fucktard.
Is this more of the legendary disdain you have for Biden?
I have never seen you actually criticize him.
“I put America first”
You’d be cheerleading for Biden (or any Democrat) even if he sent Americans to die for Ukraine.
Buttplug is a neocon par excellence, after all.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Happens almost every time there’s some overexuberant jobs report…
Aug 23, 2023:
“Last year’s booming job market wasn’t quite as robust as believed.
“The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics on Wednesday revised down its tally of total employment in March 2023 by 306,000. The change mostly means there were about 300,000 fewer job gains from April 2022 through March 2023 than first estimated.
And…
“Employers added 253,000 jobs in April, defying expectations amid a slowing economy. But the strong gains of March and February were revised down significantly, the Labor Department reported on Friday.
Economists had expected an increase of around 180,000 after March’s 236,000 gain – now revised to 165,000. February’s gain is now 248,000 instead of the 326,000 original estimate. Combined, the two months were revised down by 149,000 jobs.
Why, it’s almost like someone makes up fake numbers to lend support to droolin’ Joe, only to have them shown to be fake when they’re ‘old news’!
This is the exact play the Democrats ran under Obama too. And shrike was right here sucking him off too.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Happy to see more private companies in space business. Still worth noting that government is putting up the money for the studies. That said probably better and cheaper than doing all work in-house. I would still like to see government more focused on basic science with robotic missions and see the people on Mars entirely left to the private sector.
Happy to see more private companies in space business. Still worth noting that government is putting up the money for the studies.
Musk is putting up something like 80% of the country’s satellites into space because NASA is effectively out of the rocket business. They don’t really have any other choice but to go through him.
> New York, the greatest city in the world and America’s largest, is experimenting with a new pilot program where people throw their garbage in a bin instead of dumping it on the street.
I hope this catches on in San Francisco. Oh wait, who am I kidding.
I honestly didn’t know that yew norkers were dumping garbage in the streets. Must be a 19th century nostalgia thing.
But would it be ok to keep shitting in the streets in Frisco?
You mean sanitation or overspending on technical engineering solutions to Medieval-era social problems?
Because one of them is a “Who am I kidding? That’ll never happen!” and the other is a “Who am I kidding? It’s a lead-pipe cinch.”
HELL YEA!
Another shockingly good jobs report shows America’s economy is booming
https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/jobs-report-january-02-02-24/index.html
#GreedyCapitalistPig
So.
Why did you spend all of 2022 gaslighting about this?
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Biden’s job approval drops to 38% as border worries rise – Reuters/Ipsos
“Nearly two-thirds of respondents, including 47% of Democrats, said the country was on the wrong track.”
Isn’t it weird how Mr. “I don’t root for either team; I just want gridlock” constantly goes to bat for this century’s Jimmy Carter?
It’s almost as if he’s actually a dyed-in-the-wool true blue Democrat.
The big guy makes Jimmy Carter look like Ronald Reagan.
Carter might have been ineffective, but no one suspected him of being actually of malicious intent or corrupt.
Dumbya and Donnie consistently ranked the worst presidents since WW2.
Not by the polls. Creepy Sleepy Corrupt old Uncle Joe has that title hands down.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Biden’s only had 3 years though. Give him time.
Carter was also highly intelligent, and not in the advanced stages of age-related cognitive decline.
I dunno, I mean it has to be partly that, but I’ve seen some video of Biden from the ’90’s where he appeared to be remarkably dim-witted.
Hey….Carter was never a pedophile and while a raging asshole, not blatantly on the take.
I don’t think you could be a bigger Biden shill if you tried.
No one mentioned Biden.
The economy is booming. That is it. End.
#GreedyCapitalistPig
You didn’t have to. You see, this is the worst economy ever and we’re heading towards being like Argentina. Anyone who says different is running cover for Democrats and Biden.
Sarcasmic, who didn’t read the thread, jumps on his charger and rides to fair Buttplug’s rescue.
Whoof!
Yeah, go bark up a tree, drunky.
Go cry more about the worst economy ever.
Just how many Colt 45s did you imbibe prior to commenting this morning?
Tell me again how inflation going from 8% down to 3.5% is the path to triple digit inflation because prices are still rising. Idiot.
If inflation isn’t negative, brainiac, it’s still going up.
Inflation is the rate at which prices are increasing. Unless inflation goes zero or negative, prices will continue to rise. Contrary to your claims, there was inflation in 2019. The rate of inflation has decreased from the latest peak in 2022. As in the rate at which prices are increasing decreased. Understand? Didn’t think so.
So, tell me again how this means we’re headed towards triple digit inflation. I need a good laugh.
I’ve seen a few of you guys saying the same thing, so I figure you got it from the same source. Well, that source is either lying to you or stupid. If you came up with it on your own and the others are copying you, then you’re all stupid.
“You see, this is the worst economy ever”
Sarcasmic the Strawman Slayer demonstrates the insightful commentary that he just wishes the rest of us could match. 🙁
Today’s Sarcasmic retort was “Whoof”. Sheer genius.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
“No one mentioned Biden.”
LOL
Defending Biden is so automatic for you, it’s like blinking for normal people. Just happens! You can’t even remember doing it!
Jobs up 353,000! Thanks Sleepy Joe!
I know it. Anyone who reports anything favorable about the economy is a Biden shill.
Unbiased people put their hands over their ears and yell “La la la I can’t hear you la la la” whenever anyone says something good about the economy.
Whatever, drunky.
Then why did you react to the good economic news by denying the numbers are true and attacking the source?
We all know the numbers will be revised downward, it’s how it’s done.
“by denying the numbers are true”
Every single time for the last three years the numbers have been revised downwards. No exceptions. But THIS time they’ll be true, right Sarc?
Maybe because we’re spending $1.55 in budget deficit, and $2.50 in new debt to create $1.00 in GDP now, those “jobs” are mostly government jobs, and the service for our debt is at $1 trillion a year now?
Don’t dare mention that $8,000,000,000,000 that Trump added to the debt. No, blame it all on Biden.
Yeah, let’s not point out the actual fallacies of the hicklib pederast’s propaganda. Let’s whinge about Trump some more.
FRED shows the rocket ride on debt service (“Federal government current expenditures: Interest payments”) started after Biden took office, BTW. In fact, it’s effectively doubled since then.
That’s because it takes time for inflation to kick in, a little more time for the Fed to react by raising interest rates, a little more time after that to issue new bonds with higher interest rates, and a little more time after that for federal interest expenditures to finally increase.
Yes, I’m sure the ongoing spending has nothing to do with it either. Again:
Maybe because we’re spending $1.55 in budget deficit, and $2.50 in new debt to create $1.00 in GDP now, those “jobs” are mostly government jobs, and the service for our debt is at $1 trillion a year now?
The baseline budget set during Trump’s last year in office does indeed suck.
The ’emergency’ pandemic spending isn’t a baseline, unless you’re a Democrat.
That would be like trying to take credit for all the jobs created by the post-pandemic bounce-back.
The baseline budget set during Trump’s last year in office does indeed suck.
And what, may I ask, happened during that last year, starting in March?
And what, may I ask, happened during that last year, starting in March?
According to many in the commentariat, Democrats put a gun to Trump’s head and forced him to increase federal spending.
The ’emergency’ pandemic spending isn’t a baseline, unless you’re a Democrat.
Show me ’emergency’ spending that didn’t become the new baseline. TARP, 9/11, COVID…
What did those new baselines all have in common besides being ’emergencies’?
You guessed it. They were all signed by Republican presidents.
How is it a “baseline” to anyone who isn’t looking to whine about Trump some more?
Also, please refrain from spouting shriek’s lie about the FY09 budget. Bush said he’d veto that, and that’s why it didn’t actually pass until Obama took office.
“Don’t dare mention that $8,000,000,000,000 that Trump added to the debt. No, blame it all on Biden.”
Looks like Sarckles has adopted Buttplug’s mantra that Covid debt is all attributable to the guy who who was given veto proof spending bills, and vetoed the one he could, even though it was the middle of an election campaign. Pelosi had nothing to do with them. No sirree.
Next thing you know Pluggo will have convinced him to post kiddy pics.
You claim he’s not responsible at all because had he vetoed it his veto would have been overridden.
You dishonestly ignore that he enthusiastically signed the bill into law, dishonestly ignore that wanted his name on the checks, and dishonestly ignore that he initially balked at signing the bill because he wanted the checks (with his name on them) to be $2000 instead of $600.
But it’s not his fault. No. Congress gets 100% of the blame.
You’re a liar and an idiot.
He did veto one of them, sarcasmic. I know you have an alcohol induced brain injury, but you must remember that shitstorm. He also refused to sign another, how come you don’t remember that? And the first was veto proof. How come you don’t remember that?
And who wrote those bills Sarckles? Was it Trump or was it Pelosi? Did Trump create those bills or did the Democrats?
You Know the answer but you blamed the whole 8 trillion completely on Trump, you dishonest little asshole. Why did you do that if not to cover for Pelosi and the Democrats?
You’re a DNC shill and you’re not even trying to hide it anymore.
Are you high?
He’s probably drunker than a skunk.
Republicans are trying to save their slim House majority by expanding the dreaded SALT deduction.
Get rid of federal income tax, problem solved.
All efforts in Congress revolve around reelection and amassing power.
Correct. But I do feel that being able to clawback any of it is better than nothing, regardless of whom it goes to.
https://twitter.com/Partisan_O/status/1753450049281851647?t=VeRWj2YX09F0_MxdfbsRGg&s=19
The collapse of our southern border is a catastrophe, and it will have serious consequences not only for Americans today but for future generations as well. That citizens are not allowed to freely discuss this crisis—the most important event since 9/11—without being bullied, censored, or smeared, proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the collapse is deliberate; it’s a betrayal.
MAGA World Is About to Meet Taylor Swift’s Fandom. It Won’t Go Well.
Swift expert Brian Donovan on why the political right is targeting a rich, heteronormative pop star.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/01/the-twisted-logic-of-the-taylor-swift-backlash-it-seems-like-political-suicide-00138924
#TaylorSwiftEconomicIndex
Morning Consult did a deep dive into her fan base demographics. And they found, not surprisingly, that her main fan base is primarily white, primarily women and primarily millennial.
Not sure why that would be political suicide being that that demographic tends to vote for Democrats, if at all.
They also tend to mob riot Target in search of limited edition Stanley cups. (The kind unrelated to hockey).
turd lies. That’s not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
But it’s becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of “evidence” or “relevance”, the concept of “honesty” is simply beyond turd’s ken.
Being a billionaire puts here square into the “evil 1%”.
Not endorsing Trump is even worse. Makes her a leftist.
Swift expert Brian Donovan
?!!
It’s quite the moniker. Seems he’s reached the pinnacle of his profession. If not all professions.
Just because her boyfriend plays football doesn’t mean she’s heteronormative.
“…That’s enough of an overshot to get reporters (working for CNN-NBC-PBS-Bloomberg-CBS) to describe the jobs report as “stunning” and “shockingly strong…”
Oh, and the liar turd.
What good is a talking points memo if you don’t use the talking points?
I’m all for the SALT tax deduction. You shouldn’t have to pay tax on income you never actual receive in any fashion. That it might help people in New York or California is irrelevant. Any type of clawback of any excessive income taxes is fine with me. That it helps people unequally isn’t the problem of the clawback, it’s the problem of the massive income tax industrial complex that exists.
That it might help people in New York or California is irrelevant.
That means it might help Democrats. That’s bad all by itself.
No, it means low tax states have to pay for the asinine policies of high tax states.
But, Democrats uber alles, amirite?
Like I said, it means Republicans have to help Democrats. Doesn’t get any worse than that.
How, exactly? If the government jacks up the taxes in general to pay for the SALT deduction, that’s just a tax increase. The SALT deduction didn’t do it. A principle is a principle: taxing someone on income they never received is simply a theft, and should be opposed in principle.
Saying that the SALT deduction gives to Democrats and takes from Republicans is just yet another way to say all this money belongs to the government in the first place. And it doesn’t.
Maybe those states should respond by lowering their own income taxes.
“How, exactly? If the government jacks up the taxes in general to pay for the SALT deduction, that’s just a tax increase. The SALT deduction didn’t do it. A principle is a principle: taxing someone on income they never received is simply a theft, and should be opposed in principle.
Saying that the SALT deduction gives to Democrats and takes from Republicans is just yet another way to say all this money belongs to the government in the first place. And it doesn’t.”
Why can’t the fuckwits in blue states demand lower taxes there? I did not vote for every asinine policy that will cost more money while whining about how high your tax bill is.
They sure as hell are not getting good services.
It is up there with demanding high school grads and people who actually did the right thing to pay for the student debt of fucking morons who stayed in college for far too many years getting far too few skills that useful to anybody.
A principle is a principle: taxing someone on income they never received is simply a theft, and should be opposed in principle.
Unless they’re Democrats.
If somebody votes for high taxes in their area, why should anybody subsidize their voting decisions? I do not care if blue states want to tax themselves into oblivion…I do care if I am required, in any way, to pay for that.
How is not taxing income they never received a subsidy?
Because the money has to be made up somewhere.
If I do not get a massive tax cut because my state is not run by spending-happy morons, it is fundamentally wrong.
People make the votes. People can live with the consequences.
Less stealing is less stealing. More tax credits is more freedom, as long as the tax credits are less than the total taxes owed, and not a direct subsidy.
Why should a doctor who lives in Nashville and makes $250k pay $8000 more in Federal income tax than a doctor making $250k who lives in Fresno?
Where is the basic fairness in that?
It boils down to forcing individuals in lower tax states to subsidize the taxes paid to high-tax states. New York could make the SALT limit a far smaller issue by cutting their taxes.
I don’t think the limit should be there at all for starters. And low tax states aren’t subsidizing high tax states: the money does not belong to any of these states. It belongs to the people who earned it. If New York takes 5% and South Dakota takes 2% and the Fed takes 40%, and there is no deduction at all, the Fed has now taken 42% more than it should from SD residents and 45% more than it should from NY residents. SALT deductions lessen that taking for both, though obviously NY sees a bigger reduction in what was taken.
What SALT does is allow states to hide the impact of their high state and local taxes from the taxpayers. They get to deduct their extreme local taxes from the other taxes they’re still legally obligated to pay. The federal government is thus forced to either cut spending or raise taxes to account for the other tax revenue it’s not getting.
I don’t get how you DON’T see that this is subsidizing high tax states and localities.
It means if someone pays ten grand in state taxes, that that ten grand is not taxed by the feds.
You make it sound like the feds write a check for ten grand to the state.
Except they got the money. They just had to shovel it all to their state.
Vote better.
Exactly. So someone living in a low tax state pays more in Federal Taxes than someone making the exact same amount in a high tax state. For the sane Federal services (or probably worse, since Democrats politicize everything. see: East Palestine OH)
The person in the high tax state still pays more taxes overall.
Do you think it’s fair for them to pay federal income taxes on income the state took out of their paycheck? Or to put it another way, do you think it’s just to be taxed twice for the same income?
Those tax dollars are paying for things in that state that other states are opting not to pay for, while they’re getting the same federal services paid for out of their less proportionate taxes. It’s entirely a check written from the Feds to high tax burden states.
So yes, you think it’s fair and just to force people to pay federal income tax on money they never saw because it was taxed away by the state. Just want to be clear.
Wouldn’t the appropriate solution be to vote to get the local and state taxes reduced?*
*SLD: income taxes are ridiculously immoral and the appropriate amount to be paid is $0.
Yes, I do. They voted for those higher taxes, they should pay them. If they don’t want to pay them, they need to vote for people advocating tax cuts or move to a different state.
Voting for stuff you don’t want to pay for is just stealing.
Not stealing from someone is not stealing.
“Do you think it’s fair for them to pay federal income taxes on income the state took out of their paycheck?”
Yes. Their beef is with the officials they elected in their state.
Bull. It’s subsidizing the tax spending on high-tax states, in exactly the same way that mortgage interest deduction subsidizes home buyers.
GFY
2 million Palestinians are being starved to death in Gaza, but all Ms. Wolfe wants to write about is pro-Palestinians blocking traffic. Well, you can’t cover everything.
One more Nazi shit heard from.
Hint: You don’t want to be shot at? Don’t shoot first. But to antisemitics like AV here, those damn Jews shouldn’t shoot back, right, Alan?
Wolfe didn’t even write this article?!
We will gladly set up a go fund me account to buy you an airplane ticket to Gaza so you can help out.
Yes, Reason is an American publication, with its the largest readership demographic being American; so it stands to reason that Reason’s coverage focuses on America.
Also don’t go to war if you don’t want famine (and disease) doubly so if you lack the ability to feed your own people. Hamas can surrender anytime they want.
Perhaps the government they voted for should stop the famine, which are universally caused by governments.
Sounds like a great opportunity to negotiate.
Again, if, on Oct. 8th, Hamas had said “Oh Shit! Sorry! Here’s the hostages, and here’s the guilty parties we could find, alive anyway. You guys can take them. Any help getting rid of shitheels like them would be greatly appreciated.” The region would be buried under a mountain of foreign aid. People saying it’s a backwards, uncivilized, corrupt Hellscape would be seen as part of the problem and/or perpetuating a narrative.
Instead, Hamas said, “Yup. We did it. Iran helped.”
Was food hard to come by in Hiroshima on August 7, 1945?
Hamas decided to fuck around and now the people of Palestine are getting to find out.
Remind me again dipshit? Who broke the ceasefire by killing 1200+ people, mainly civilians, including women and children, some of who (a large number from the reporting I’ve seen) they literally raped to death (including numerous underage girls)? Which side was that again?
Isn’t garnering attention the whole point of blocking traffic in front of the holocaust museum?
All of which could have been prevented if Hamas had surrendered months ago to face justice for their crimes.
“wants to write about is pro-Palestinians blocking traffic.”
It’s the politically correct topic. Inconvenienced motorists. Anything remotely critical of Israel, her leaders or the conduct of the genocide will run the risk of being labelled as antisemitic.
Inconvenienced motorists.
Yeah, dickheads like you conveniently omit medical emergencies, parents retrieving children, and any other situation deemed more than an inconvenience.
But hey, I don’t live in a city so fuck ’em.
“Yeah, dickheads like you conveniently omit medical emergencies, parents retrieving children, and any other situation deemed more than an inconvenience.”
A veritable holocaust of inconvenience.
And totally ineffective in stopping a war.
“And totally ineffective in stopping a war.”
I’d settle for stopping a genocide.
Pretty shitty genocide when the population of Palestinian Arabs has been increasing.
if you repeat a big lie enough…
You have those figures at hand? Care to share?
Genocide is massacring large numbers of people. Maybe you’d like to see more death and destruction, but the numbers so far are well over the numbers in Srebinica. Only 8,000 victims there and the perpetrators ended up tried and convicted in The Hague.
Sure, but don’t say I didn’t warn you.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/gaza-population
ooof.
Rekt by the numbers. Maybe mtrueman should do some basic research before opening his mouth. Yikes
Least successful ‘ethnic cleansing / genocide’ in the history of the world, despite the most significant disparity in military capability between the supposed people committing the genocide and the brave victims.
Weird, its almost like the story is completely made up
Misconstrueman is only here to bleat out anti-Semitic talking points and nonsense.
Are you claiming that Gaza’s population today is more than it was in September 2023? The numbers you post here don’t seem to back up such a claim. The latest figures you past date back to 2020.
In any case, whether the total population is increasing or decreasing is not relevant to genocide, something that requires only large numbers of people killed. I’ve already pointed this out in the previous comment. You couldn’t have missed it.
If large numbers of folks are dying, there would not be sufficient births to offset that.
The claim is ridiculous. It’s like saying there was no holocaust because the total number of German Jews was increasing until 1939, and here’s the figures to prove it. Surely you’re not falling for this idiocy?
Wars kind of suck. Hamas shouldn’t have started one on Oct 7th. And they could have prevented all of the subsequent civilian casualties, by either A) allowing civilians to evacuate when Israel warned them of the coming invasion, or B) surrendering to Israel to face justice for their horrific crimes of Oct 7th, and releasing all the hostages.
“Hamas shouldn’t have started one on Oct 7th.”
The argument that genocide in Gaza isn’t taking place because the population of Palestinians increased between the years 1950 and 2020 is particularly idiotic. But I agree wars do suck, and this one started long before Oct. 7. It’s been sucking a long time, good that you finally noticed.
“It’s like saying there was no holocaust because the total number of German Jews was increasing until 1939”
German Jewish population Jan 1933: 503,000
1939: 234,000
Slightly more than 50% decrease. But, yes, other than the massive reduction, their population was REALLY growing.
Try better arguments.
“But I agree wars do suck, and this one started long before Oct. 7.”
We SHOULD count every single rocket fired at Israel as the start, but Nazis like you do not approve.
Take it up with CE who claimed the war started on Oct. 7. If you disagree with him, tell him directly. And if you disagree with the claim that genocide can’t be happening today because the population increased between 1950 and 2020, tell that directly to InsaneTrollLogic who made the claim.
“German Jewish population Jan 1933: 503,000
1939: 234,000”
Those figures are the population of German Jews in Germany, are they not? My claim was about German Jews regardless of where they lived. Your figures may lead the ignorant to believe that some 1/4 million German Jews disappeared from 1933 to 1939, though this clearly did not happen. My analogy stands, in other words. It was after 1942 that the holocaust started and the population of German Jews declined precipitously because they were being murdered, not emigrating to other nations.
“Those figures are the population of German Jews in Germany, are they not? My claim was about German Jews regardless of where they lived.”
So, your argument is that Jews who left Germany prove there was no genocide in Germany? “Well, there was no genocide because 20 Jews left Germany and went elsewhere. Ergo, NO GENOCIDE!!”
Are you REALLY making an argument this asinine?
The population of Jews in Europe overall has STILL not recovered their numbers from 1933. The p[opulation of Jordanians living in Gaza and the West Bank do not have similar issues.
“Are you REALLY making an argument this asinine?Are you REALLY making an argument this asinine?”
No. I will try to be more clear. You don’t appear to be following. I asked InsaneTrollLogic for figures to back up his claim that there couldn’t be a genocide because the population of Gaza has increased:
“You have those figures at hand? Care to share?”
With me so far? He posted a long comment with citations for Gaza’s population going back from 1950 to 2020:
” In 1950, the population of Gaza was 63,444. … By 2020, the region will have 2.1 million people.”
Now this is the part that might have confused you. In Oct. 7 2023, the Israelis initiated their genocide against the people of Gaza, blocking food, water, electricity, medicine, as well as bombing hospitals, schools, churches, markets, housing, grave yards and cultural sites. Tens of thousands of victims have died, half of whom are children, but also women, medical staff, aid workers, journalists, artists, athletes, and even half naked Hebrew speaking hostages waving a white flag. The problem with InsaneTrollLogic’s comment, if you haven’t spotted it already, is that 2020 predates Oct. 7 2023 by 3 years, therefore doesn’t prove that Gaza’s population has increased as he claimed. I don’t have the figures, but I’m assuming that the population of Gaza has declined since Oct 7 2023. Perhaps you agree, and if not, maybe you could make the contrary case.
In any case whether the population of Gaza is larger or smaller is immaterial. Genocide requires only the large scale massacring of a people. It doesn’t require a decline in total population of the people in question. Check any dictionary if you doubt me.
“The population of Jews in Europe overall has STILL not recovered their numbers from 1933.”
This is not relevant for the reasons I gave in the previous paragraph, ie genocide is about murder on a massive scale. Intentional mass murder of a selected people, to be more precise. Whether the population of Jews in Europe is less, equal or greater today than it was in 1933 is immaterial when deciding whether or not genocide took place in 1942.
I know it’s a long winded reply but you really seemed to be having trouble understand an argument that I thought was fairly straight forward. If you still have trouble, I recommend you read this comment again carefully, or go back to the beginning of the thread or even ask me for clarification.
Genocide is massacring large numbers of people
Nope, that is not what genocide means. CNN and MSNBC talking points are meaningless.
What you are describing is war.
Ugly yes, but not genocide and not stopped by the unemployed blocking streets in blue cities.
Ya you aren’t following leftist retard logic.
In leftist retard logic, in which mtrueman is fluent, if you are the right protected class, you can
– break a ceasefire repeatedly by firing rockets at your enemy
– break a ceasefire by invading with a horde of barbarians and decapitate, maim, rape, and murder
And if you are in the non-protected (read: white) class, your only response allowed is to turn the other cheek, and any retaliation isnt war, its “MuH gEnOCiDE!!!”
If it sounds like the kind of logic you get from ignorant, emotional children, well…
“Nope, that is not what genocide means.”
It’s exactly what genocide means. If you have a personal definition for the word, now is a perfect time to share it with us. Meanwhile, go find yourself a dictionary and see for yourself.
“the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.”
‘from a particular nation or ethnic group’
– the nation happens to be a neighboring one, that attacked them, with the intent of murdering their entire people, so pretty big disqualifier here
‘with the aim of destroying that nation or group’
– Israel’s aim is to destroy Hamas, the terrorists who want them dead, not all Muslims, and not all palestinians. Evidence: the gaza strip still has palestinians and isn’t glass.
Sorry, but the most lazy scrutiny completely tears your argument to shreds. Dim bulb
“Sorry, but the most lazy scrutiny completely tears your argument to shreds. Dim bulb”
But you’re not denying there’s a genocide. You’re merely engaging in apologetics and trying to justify it. Two different things. You need to calm down and consider the matter coolly without letting your emotions get the better of you.
I honestly didn’t think I’d have to supply the definition, you disingenuous asshole.
Mike provided the definition and an explanation. You deserve neither.
“But you’re not denying there’s a genocide. You’re merely engaging in apologetics and trying to justify it. ”
No, im denying there is a genocide, based on the definition of genocide.
You said it before mate, war is hell. Sorry your prefered terrorists are on the receiving end.
But no, this doesn’t fit the definition of genocide for multiple reasons, and you know that. You are playing chemjeff sophistry games, and no one here is dumb enough to buy it. By your very loose (and incorrect) use, every war was a genocide
“Mike provided the definition and an explanation.”
Where does Mike Parsons deny there’s a genocide taking place? His focus is only to provide the apologetics to justify the genocide, not to deny it. Read it again carefully if you doubt me:
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“the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.”
‘from a particular nation or ethnic group’
– the nation happens to be a neighboring one, that attacked them, with the intent of murdering their entire people, so pretty big disqualifier here
‘with the aim of destroying that nation or group’
– Israel’s aim is to destroy Hamas, the terrorists who want them dead, not all Muslims, and not all palestinians. Evidence: the gaza strip still has palestinians and isn’t glass.
Sorry, but the most lazy scrutiny completely tears your argument to shreds. Dim bulb
“Genocide is massacring large numbers of people”
So genocide happening weekly in Chicago?
Seems to be by misconstrueman’s measure.
Know what was closer to a genocide?
10/7.
Correct. And done by people who loudly shouted “we are here to genocide the jews!”
Lefties response: “…Israel are genocidal Nazis”
“From the River to the Sea”
“I’d settle for stopping a genocide.”
Good idea. Unfortunately, Nazi shit-stains like you don’t know what it means.
No matter which side someone thinks is committing the supposed genocide, it could be stopped simply by Hamas surrendering.
meh, fine. You shrug off causing harm to your fellow citizens, we will happily shrug off Israel taking out the trash.
Even stevens?
One dead America is greater than 5 million dead Jordanians living in Gaza.
And one inconvenienced American is about as great as you can get.
How do you feel about the Uyghur muslims in camps in China?
Why have you never uttered a peep about them but have a boner for Hamas?
China can put them in labor camps, but Israel cant root out the terrorists who attacked them? Thats pretty bizarre.
Its almost like you just hate the jews and you work backwards from there
“How do you feel about the Uyghur muslims in camps in China?”
I’d avoid the hashish they sell. Much better to get it from the street vendors in places like Shanghai.
Nice. Concentration camps not a big deal.
Why would I give the tiniest sliver of a damn for a people that have decided to kill themselves incessantly to attack Jews. If only they loved their kids anywhere near as much as they hate Jews.
“Why would I give the tiniest sliver of a damn for a people”
I’m not the one to answer this. It sounds like you’re in need of soul searching.
Nah. People need to live with the consequences of their actions.
FAFO and all.
You are justifying genocide, collective punishment and other crimes, as long as the victims are Palestinian. That’s despicable.
Germans got punished over the actions of their government.
Such is life.
All the Jordanians in Gaza have to do to live happily is lay down their arms. It is ALL on them.
So, you think Israel’s perpetrating genocide against the people of Gaza is deserved, justified, legal and righteous? I think many here agree with you but for whatever reason think it’s politically incorrect to cheer on a genocide. Joe Biden, for example, bristles with anger when called Genocide Joe.
“All the Jordanians in Gaza”
I don’t think there are many Jordanians in Gaza, and I don’t think they are bearing arms. Most are in the business of aiding the victims.
GFY
The only inconvenience this should be is washing the blood out of your grill.
The people aren’t critical of Israel though – they want to extermintate Jews.
What’s the difference? Isn’t exterminating Jews just as antisemitic as criticizing Israel? Or even wearing a checkered scarf? What’s with the quibbling?
Terrorist sympathizers impeding traffic and interfering with the economy is newsworthy though, especially if local authorities fail to prosecute them.
“Terrorist sympathizers impeding traffic and interfering with the economy is newsworthy though”
More photogenic and easily ignored venues are close by. That can’t be emphasized enough. And of course we need repeated reminders that a motorist who opposes genocide will turn on a dime and support it if his commute is inconvenienced.
I’d have no problem with it. Would likely laugh at it.
Don’t be where you do not belong.
>New York, New York, the greatest city in the world and America’s largest, is experimenting with a new pilot program where people throw their garbage in a bin instead of dumping it on the street. We’ll see if it sticks.
So *that’s* why Wolfe isn’t here – she’s partying with the rest of NYC now that its garbage collection has finally caught up to where the rest of the country was *in 1990*.
>President Joe Biden has imposed sanctions on four Israeli settlers in the West Bank accused of attacking Palestinians and Israeli peace activists, the Associated Press reports.
Hamas, however, is still to be protected by the US.
Also, they’re not ‘pro-Palestine’ protestors – they’re agitators for Hamas. They’re terrorist supporters.
When they call to take the intifada global, they don’t mean over there.
That’s enough of an overshot to get reporters to describe the jobs report as “stunning” and “shockingly strong.”
Scene: Reporter in self-driving Tesla as he goes by a huge favela of tents as Meth addicts roam around the streets. He speaks to editor on bluetooth
Reporter: Did you see the job report?
Editor: And how!
Reporter: This is great news for the Biden administration. Hey, what say I write an article about how good the Biden economy is.
Editor: Great idea. I would suggest using the words “stunning” and “shockingly strong”
Reporter: Great idea, Barbara. I’d also like to write about the disconnect about how normal Americans feel about the economy vs. how good it really looks on paper.
Editor: Definitely. Make sure to get some quotes from normals to fluff up the piece a bit… give it a feel of authenticity.
Reporter: Yeah, definitely. I’ll scroll through Twitter to find some.
You still think the reporters come up with story ideas and write them on their own? Aren’t they really just told what to write from the DNC?
The wishful thinking and sweeping generalizations continue apace:
Haley didn’t bring up secession, the questioner did. It’s not like this is a dog whistle she can’t wait to blow.
It’s in her best interest to get off of fringe questions. I sense she tried. Am I concerned that she will do nothing to prevent Texas from seceding? No. That’s silly talk. I much more care about her plans for NATO, Ukraine, Iran, and immigration. But frankly when the choice is Trump, Biden, or her….it’s a non-choice. I trust she will pick good people and return us to a more normal Republican administration that will put America out front yet reflect the lessons learned from Iraq and Afghanistan. She continues to represent the best opposition vote to Trump…and a remnant of normalcy.
People are free to take their balls and go home. But now is the time to show MAGA how much of the GOP is uncomfortable with Trump. If 30% can become 40%, that exhibits more leverage and more hope for an eventual new base. Perfect is the enemy of good enough.
AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 2/2/2024 @ 10:47 am
Are we back to “adults in charge”?
The hilarious part is that these types say they’ll vote for Biden if Trump is the nominee, but act petulant at the possibility that Trump voters might do the same thing to them if Haley gets the nom.
No self-awareness and no shame at their actual lack of principle whatsoever.
Just brand her a neoconfederate and torpedo her political aspirations.
But philosophically, why shouldn’t Texas have the right to secede?
Why was it okay for slave-holding Virginia to secede in 1776, but not in 1861? Texas doesn’t even allow slavery now. What happened to self-determination and the rights of man?
As I’ve mentioned, the legalities can be debated for eternity, but ultimately secession/rebellion is a political question, not a legal one. If part of a nation decides to leave, or wants to join another country, then it’s up to the rest of that nation if it wants to try and force them back into the fold or not.
I liked Nikki’s Tweet where she included fan mail…that she had failed to send to herself.
https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1753241117040971963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1753241117040971963%7Ctwgr%5E42f5859da47fcf903de95e9977472ba1d70b0b5c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Famy-curtis%2F2024%2F02%2F02%2Fnikki-haley-emails-n2392473
BTW, a writer for the WSJ claims that EV cost/mile claims are far worse than you imagined:
“The Electric-Vehicle Cheating Scandal
A government rule makes them look nearly seven times as efficient as they are.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-electric-car-cheating-scandal-subsidy-rule-efficiency-falsehood-2798b4ab
I can tell you with this cold snap, the people that have a long commute here have been bitching and moaning that on a full charge they are getting 40-50% less mileage than they are supposed to, and it has to be charging pretty much non stop once they get home to make sure they have enough battery for tomorrows commute.
When they have a family trip, they almost always take the gas guzzler
The WSJ writer isn’t wrong about the factor or the relative comparison to the VW scandal, but this isn’t new.
I’ve been saying this for years. People say, “Oh EVs are just really popular.” but even from the early days of MPGes it was readily apparent that EVs were going to get away with fudging their sticker numbers by 20-30% or more while ICEs were going to get cracked down on for esoteric environmental regulations that benefitted neither the seller nor the buyer, didn’t sacrifice (or even improved) performance, and only served to justify regulator’s jobs.
“Americans are getting back to work. The January jobs report released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics this morning says that the U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs last month and the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent.”
I wonder what they’ll be revised down to when the real numbers are published. You do know that they’ve revised the numbers down every month for at least a year, right Christian?
Ten years ago, MIT hosted a number of panel discussions to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the aeronautics and astronautics department, aka aero/astro. Many if not most of the panelists were, in fact, Apollo astronauts–including Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins. Buzz was in his usual feisty form and his take was disappointment: “By 2000 they promised me Mars and gave me Facebook.”
Most interesting, though, were thoughts about Mars. First, with a single exception, every astronaut believed that we’d reach Mars by private enterprise, not by government funding. And it’s looking more and more like they were right.
Secondly, the question of one-way vs round trips came up often. By the last day, the chairman of the department interviewed Elon Musk. He–the chairman–posed a question to the audience, all of whom were Techies or those along with us. The question was: many of you are talking about going to Mars, even if it’s going to be a one-way trip. How many of you think you’d actually go if it is guaranteed to be one-way?
Amazingly, about 50 hands went up. (Mine was not among them–I like it here.) Musk pointed out that he wants his rockets back–with or without astronauts on them. So staying for an extra season or two might be an option. Getting resupplied is an option, but it wasn’t a requirement.
Ever hear of Mars One? It was based on a one-way ticket. Not taking return fuel with you makes the trip much cheaper, and if the rocket doesn’t come home, you can salvage it for habitat building.
People would point out that the volunteers/contestants for Mars One would die on Mars, to which they would reply, “you have to die somewhere.”
Dying can’t be avoided. You want to avoid surviving on a diet based on insects – meal worms, crickets and the like? Avoid Mars.
+1 Thank you! I couldn’t remember the name of that program/scam/promotional stunt.
Yes, you have to die somewhere, but the reality-style selection process for a Squid Games style space mission that, at best, turns out like one of the social experiment vaults from Fallout seems like a terrible way to die in the “how” sense.
Huge government contracts awarded to giant corporations and funded from taxpayer debt are not exactly the libertarian path to Mars colonization.
A real libertarian colonization would follow more of the early North American settlement path, with privately funded companies paying the freight and taking the risks themselves, charging passage to colonists and hoping to make the money back on trade. I’m not sure Martian tobacco will have a big market back on Earth though.
Americans are getting back to work. The January jobs report released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics this morning says that the U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs last month and the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent.
These numbers are beyond the projections of many analysts, who’d predicted the economy would add somewhere from 160,000 jobs to 275,000 jobs. That’s enough of an overshot to get reporters to describe the jobs report as “stunning” and “shockingly strong.”
And the numbers will be quietly revised downward in a month, like nearly every other one before it.