The 'No Compromise' NRA Is Neither New nor Uncompromising
The book Vote Gun criticizes the NRA’s rhetoric but pays little attention to gun control advocates' views.

Vote Gun: How Gun Rights Became Politicized in the United States, by Patrick J. Charles, Columbia University Press, 488 pages, $35
The National Rifle Association (NRA) "favored tighter gun laws" in the 1920s and '30s, New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof wrote in 2018. But since the 1970s, Kristof complained, the NRA "has been hijacked by extremist leaders" whose "hard-line resistance" to even the mildest gun control proposals contradicts "their members' (much more reasonable) views."
Other NRA critics have told the same story. That widely accepted account, U.S. Air Force historian Patrick J. Charles argues in Vote Gun, is "based more on myth than on substance." In reality, he shows, the NRA's fight against gun control dates back to the 1920s. But in waging that battle, the organization tried to project a reasonable image by presenting itself as open to compromise. That P.R. effort, Charles says, is the main source of the erroneous impression that "the NRA was once the chief proponent of firearms controls."
Charles also aims to debunk the idea that the NRA's power derives from its ability to mobilize voters against elected officials who defy its wishes. Since it "commandeered the political fight against firearms controls from the United States Revolver Association" a century ago, he says, the NRA has been adept at defeating proposed gun restrictions by encouraging its members to pepper legislators with complaints. While such direct communications tend to make a big impression, Charles argues, they are a misleading measure of the electoral penalty that politicians are apt to suffer by supporting gun control.
Vote Gun—which covers the first eight decades of the 20th century, ending with Ronald Reagan's election in 1980—presents a wealth of new material to support its main theses. But the book is marred by many small mistakes, which appear on almost every page and typically involve misused, misspelled, misplaced, or missing words. More substantively, Charles is harshly critical of the NRA's rhetoric and logic but pays little attention to similar weaknesses in the arguments deployed by supporters of gun control.
In his prior work, Charles has portrayed the NRA's understanding of the Second Amendment as a modern invention. He alludes to that position in Vote Gun when says the "broad individual rights view" accepted by the U.S. Supreme Court is based on "historical sleight of hand."
Contrary to what the Court has held, Charles thinks the Second Amendment was not originally intended to protect an individual right unrelated to militia service. That idea, according to his 2018 book Armed in America, first emerged in the 19th century. Even then, Charles says, the Second Amendment was seen as consistent with regulations opposed by the contemporary gun rights movement. His lack of sympathy for the idea that the right to armed self-defense should be treated like other civil liberties colors Vote Gun's ostensibly neutral account.
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As early as 1924, NRA Secretary-Treasurer C.B. Lister was declaring that "the anti-gun law can be intelligently viewed only from the standpoint of a public menace." The organization soon began acting on that attitude by resisting new gun legislation.
Charles argues that the conventional narrative exaggerates the significance of the 1977 NRA convention in Cincinnati, where "hardline gun rights supporters" replaced leaders they perceived as insufficiently zealous in protecting the Second Amendment. "Many academics," he says, see that development as "a gun rights revolution of sorts—one that forever transformed the NRA from a politically moderate sporting, hunting, and conservation organization into an extreme, no-compromise lobbying arm." That view, he suggests, is belied by the NRA's prior five decades of lobbying against gun restrictions and its explicit adoption of a "no compromise" stance seven years earlier.
Here Charles' sloppy writing obscures his meaning. "This is not to say that the Cincinnati Revolt is insignificant in the pantheon of gun rights history," he writes. "It most certainly is." He presumably means that it is not insignificant. That's just one of numerous errors that would have been caught by any reasonably careful editor or proofreader. Although generally minor, they sometimes raise questions about the book's sources.
According to Charles, for instance, a member survey that the NRA conducted in 1975 included this question: "Do you believe your local police need to carry firearms to arrest and murder suspects?" We can surmise that the word and, which radically changes the meaning of the question, was included accidentally. But it's not clear whether the accident should be attributed to Charles or the NRA.
Despite such puzzles, Charles is on firm ground in arguing that the NRA has frequently portrayed even relatively modest regulations as the first step toward mass disarmament. But he also shows the NRA has blocked policies that would have substantially limited the right to keep and bear arms. Charles seems loath to acknowledge that such proposals lent credence to the NRA's warnings.
The National Firearms Act of 1934, for example, originally would have covered handguns as well as machine guns and short-barreled rifles. The law required registration of those weapons and imposed a $200 tax on transfers, which was designed to be prohibitive, amounting to about $4,600 in current dollars. Had Congress enacted the original version of that bill, possession of what the Supreme Court would later describe as "the quintessential self-defense weapon" would have been sharply restricted.
More generally, Charles depicts the NRA's concerns about gun registration as overblown, verging on paranoia. But while registration is not necessarily a prelude to prohibition, it is a practical prerequisite for any effective confiscation scheme, and such schemes were seriously entertained even after the debate over the National Firearms Act.
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In 1969, a bipartisan majority of the National Commission on the Causes and Prevention of Violence, which President Lyndon B. Johnson had appointed the previous year, recommended confiscation of handguns from those who failed to demonstrate "a special need for self-protection." Charles says Richard Nixon, Johnson's successor, was initially inclined to support a handgun ban. Although "his advisors convinced him otherwise," the policy remained a live issue.
The National Coalition to Ban Handguns was founded in 1974. Two years later, Atlanta Mayor Maynard Jackson urged Congress to "immediately ban the import, manufacture, sale and possession of all handguns." Congress never did that. But cities such as Chicago and Washington, D.C., did ban handguns via laws that the Supreme Court eventually overturned. In this context, it is not hard to understand why the NRA objected to national gun registration, which was backed by prominent legislators such as Sen. Joseph Tydings (D–Md.) and Senate Minority Leader Hugh Scott (R–Pa.).
Charles notes that Scott repudiated his support for registration in 1970 because he worried that it could cost him reelection, and he describes several similar reversals. But Charles argues that the NRA's bark was worse than its bite. Although the idea that the NRA and other gun rights groups could swing elections became widely accepted beginning in 1968, he says, a closer look at races where they supposedly did so makes that proposition doubtful.
Charles is similarly skeptical of the idea that policies such as federal restrictions on the inexpensive handguns known as "Saturday night specials" and California's 1967 ban on carrying loaded firearms without a permit harked back to the racist roots of gun control. Scholars such as Fordham University law professor Nicholas Johnson and UCLA law professor Adam Winkler have suggested a racial motivation can be inferred from the context of those policies. While the circumstantial evidence in both cases strikes me as pretty strong, Charles apparently would be satisfied only by explicit statements of anti-black animus.
Charles' skepticism does not extend to the reasoning behind gun restrictions that the NRA often opposed and sometimes accepted. Once Congress excised handguns from the National Firearms Act, for instance, the rationale for restricting short-barreled rifles—that they were relatively easy to conceal—became nonsensical. And does anyone seriously suppose that the 1968 ban on mail-order rifles had a significant impact on violent crime?
Nor does Charles delve into the logic of the "prohibited persons" categories that were established by the Gun Control Act of 1968 and broadened by subsequent legislation. You might think a policy of disarming millions of Americans with no history of violence would merit a little more discussion, especially since the NRA supports that policy, notwithstanding the organization's supposedly resolute defense of gun rights.
Such compromises, which make the right to armed self-defense contingent on legislative fiat, help explain the emergence of groups that position themselves as more steadfast than the NRA, such as the Second Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America. Charles presents compelling evidence that the NRA's resistance to gun control long predates the 1970s. But so does the NRA's acquiescence to gun control, which continues to this day.
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the NRA has frequently portrayed even relatively modest regulations as the first step toward mass disarmament.
Do you think maybe that's because "gun control" advocates are constantly and explicitly advocating mass disarmament?
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This article brought to you courtesy of Little Billy Kristol and his fellow travelers, and pResident Brandon (aka Joetatoe) agrees with his message.
BTW, the gun banners don’t want to ban all guns. They just want to ban your having a gun if you are not one of them, support them, and willing take all orders that they issue.
They keep trying to say they want “common-sense” gun regulations and would never in a million years seek to ban and confiscate your weapons. Sometimes (rarely) the truth will out, and even more rarely will it be reported. The esteemed senior senator, D. Feinstein (D-Cal), years before her passing, in an unguarded moment, said it best: “That’s right Mr. and Mrs. America. Turn’em in. Turn’em all in.” The Democrat mayor of New Orleans demonstrated it best during Katrina, when he ordered the National Guardsmen on scene to either confiscate citizens’ weapons or shoot those who resisted. I would be remiss not to point out that those National Guardsmen followed orders to confiscate weapons at gunpoint, and certainly convinced their
subjectsvictims that they would be shot should they resist.But no, I don’t want to seem radical. I’m sure the bunch in W. D. of C. now would never – never, ever – think of banning and confiscating weapons unless they could just figure out how to do it without they themselves having to take the risk of knocking on doors.
Does that include knives? Asking for my ethnic dance troupe.
"More generally, Charles depicts the NRA's concerns about gun registration as overblown, verging on paranoia. But while registration is not necessarily a prelude to prohibition, it is a practical prerequisite for any effective confiscation scheme, and such schemes were seriously entertained even after the debate over the National Firearms Act."
According to the article, yes.
I also wonder why anybody would assume the group not enforcing current gun laws would enforce new ones.
Allow me to introduce the phrase "selective enforcement".
That sounds like an incredibly boring book.
And it stops in 1980? Is 20+ years not long enough to at least bring it up to the end of the Century?
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/12/texas-majority-pac-george-soros-democrats-fundraising/
New George Soros-backed, Democratic PAC aims to turn Texas blue
Are they going to try to convince FJB to close the border?
By the way, how was Texas in the 1980's (when it was blue)?
Fuck George Soros.
Uh oh, you lit the Shreek Signal.
Auntie Semitism
He's a little old. BTW, your response is not very "REASON" like.
What about his sniveling little progeny?
Hmmmm. You don't say.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-01-27/ukraine-says-it-uncovers-mass-fraud-in-weapons-procurement
Ukraine Says It Uncovers Mass Fraud in Weapons Procurement
Remember how 10 years ago Ukraine had a bottom quintile corruption rating? And was ranked worse than Russia?
But I am sure that receiving billions in foreign aid inspired them to clean up their act.
Pot meet kettle...
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/28/us-reviewing-venezuelan-sanctions-policy-in-wake-of-court-decision.html
U.S. reviewing Venezuelan sanctions policy in wake of court decision
What "mildest gun control proposals"????
That line was passed up over a century ago.
Well, the "Bipartisan Gun Contemplation Act of 2022" was pretty mild--to the point of being almost point-less.
Its only function is to help certain people pretend that they've "done something" after 30 years of absolutely nothing.
Hey sullum, when are you quiting reason and going over to jacobian?
Better reading are the entrenched Kleptocracy faction platforms that take eight hours (8h) to read--two workdays if you want to read both and compare. Both support the communist income tax, at-gunpoint prohibition of everything BUT gin and cigarettes and do everything possible to keep women, hippies, libertarians and brown people in general from voting, owning a gun, or copping a non-alcoholic buzz. So when a looter gang promises to loosen one of the myriad shackles, who but an idiot would throw away a dime or vote instead of supporting Chase Oliver? (http://bit.ly/3hFH6QJ) Libertarian Donations buy leveraged votes to repeal bad laws.
The NRA almost ruined the case against Washington DC gun control. When “Heller” was working its way to court, the NRA filed a competitive lawsuit that would have almost certainly failed. Was the NRA seeking credit for fighting for the right to bear arms? Or was it deliberately filing a poor case that would lose so that the gun control issue would continue and NRA donors would keeping the money flowing?
The Tuberculosis Association became the Lung Association when tuberculosis was no longer a major threat in the US. The March of Dimes turned its attention to the health of mothers and babies after polio cases receded to near insignificance.
What could the NRA do after the right to bear arms was established in court? Gun safety? Target practice? Climate change?
The NRA always wanted to portray itself as the “reasonable” gun rights organization and showed this by its willingness to compromise individual rights. Compromise has been it M.O. since its inception and compromise always leads to defeat in the long run.
All charities (can we call the NRA that?) are constantly in tension between their stated goals and the goals of those in charge of them. There just aren't enough Mother Teresas to staff them all.
Well, the NRA does do a lot in education and promotion of shooting sports. But not having the political lobbying as a major function would cut off a lot of their gravy train.
Anyone that thinks the nra is pro gun rights is a retard.
*checks author
Ooooo that makes so much sense now
I am pleased to announce a milestone event in Reason history; a Sullum article with no mention of Trump at all.
It's a (post) Christmas Miracle! We are truly blessed!
Having read several of Patrick Charles’ works regarding the second amendment, I also find his writing to contain obvious errors that ought to have been caught and corrected by an alert proofreader before publication.
For instance, in footnote 683 to his law review article (Arms for their Defence) Patrick Charles fails miserably in his attempt to chide Individual Rights advocates for (supposedly) misreading an often cited snippet from the writings of John Adams.
See JOHN ADAMS, A DEFENCE OF THE CONSTITUTIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 475 (Da Capo Press 1971) (1787-1788). “Individual right” proponents also argue that Adams’ Defence of the Constitution of Government of the United States of America supports their stance. They believe Adams viewed arms ownership as a right because he recognized the propriety of “arms in the hands of citizens, to be used . . . in private self-defence.” Id. This is another quotation that Individual Right Scholars take out of context. Adams was actually articulating a principle that undercuts the “individual right” theory. He believed “arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion” would be “to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man—it is a dissolution of government.” Id. There were two exceptions to this rule that society may allow. These were (1) “private self-defence” and (2) through the militia “by partial orders of towns, counties, or districts of a state.” Id. While the former allowance—self-defence—was not articulated as a right—fundamental, natural, or constitutional—the latter was described as “the fundamental law.” As many proponents of the militia believed, Adams felt that “[t]he arms of the commonwealth should be lodged in the hands of that part of the people which are firm to its establishment.” Id
The often cited quote from John Adams: “To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defence, or by partial orders of towns, counties, or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed, and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws”
Contrary to Charles’ claim, Adams makes only one exception in the above cite and that is for private self defense. The other “exception” identified by Charles is instead a misuse of arms in the hands of the citizen that would lead to the destruction of the laws. Charles might have avoided his error if he had read more than the just the often cited snippet. Had he done so, he surely would not have concluded that Adams was in favor of anyone acting on “partial orders.“ Moreover his confusion regarding the right to have arms versus the duty to have arms might have been remedied by considering Adams’ teaching that men do not need to be compelled to defend their own homes and families -they need only to be compelled to defend the wider community.
From A Defence of the Constitutions:
“men often confine their benevolence to their families, relations, personal friends, parish, village, city, county, province, and that very few, indeed, extend it impartially to the whole community. Now, grant but this truth, and the question is decided. If a majority are capable of preferring their own private interest, or that of their families, counties, and party, to that of the nation collectively, some provision must be made in the constitution, in favor of justice, to compel all to respect the common right, the public good, the universal law, in preference to all private and partial considerations.”
In addition to elucidating Adams disdain for those acting on “partial orders,” the above is completely in line with the assize of arms of 1285 known as the Statute of Winchester. There King Edward directed that steps be taken to punish those who commit felonies. He held the Lords responsible to capture criminals and set fines for failure to do so. That statute included a recitation of the types of arms men were required to have based on each man’s station in society. Surely the Have Arms provision of the Statue of Winchester was a command rather than a right, but the King’s annoyance was not with persons defending themselves poorly, it was instead with those failing in their duty to defend the wider community.
Charles’ miscue exposes a blind spot in his thinking about the framers’ views on private self defense, and since Charles is silent on the point, we are left to wonder what rationale he might offer for Adams’ insertion of an exception for personal self defense in that long discourse on the proper role of the militia in maintaining order in a free state. It must be noted that the deference shown by Adams to private self defense fits well with the Standard Model but is not at all consistent with Charles’ political rights only view.
I'd bet a large amount of money that not one single member of the Reason staff owns any type of firearm, and furthermore I bet most have probably never even fired one.
If any of them owns a firearm, my guess would be KMW.
2Chile has gunz. In Arizona, even the hippies living in Sedona have guns.
You know what, I'm big enough to admit when I'm probably wrong on something, and upon further consideration I suspect that you're very likely right about Tucille!
I don't believe for a second though that Mingo-Mango-Mongo owns a gun though, Tucille is the outlier.
Damn, if we weren't both anons I'd happily take that bet.
Guess Chocolate Jesus and Potato Head should not have taken Iran off sanctions & given all that money back, huh?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-troops-killed-jordan-american-service-members-syria/
3 American service members killed and dozens injured in drone attack on base in Jordan, U.S. says
Three U.S. troops killed, up to 34 injured in Jordan drone strike linked to Iran
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/28/three-us-service-members-killed-34-wounded-in-jordan-drone-attack-linked-to-iran.html
Remind me where in the United States Jordan is located.
I thought it was next to Chicago.
Given what money back?
"Contrary to what the Court has held, Charles thinks the Second Amendment was not originally intended to protect an individual right unrelated to militia service."
Even if this were true - which it's not - the same people who want to ban guns in America eliminated the militia! There is still a Federal law on the books that declares that all men between certain ages are automatically members of the unorganized Militia of the United States, while it attempted to declare that the Reserves and the National Guard are the only organized militias. Since several states of the United States still have state militias and local militias have have been essentially banned, this turns the "original intent" of the Founders completely on its head. The whole point of the right to keep and bear arms was to keep local militias well trained and well regulated to respond to local emergencies; and so they could be called up on short notice to respond to larger emergencies.
Radical far-left Second Amendment deniers seem to be under the delusion that Congress will do little to restrict gun rights because the NRA is giving them bundles of campaign cash. Rather than the more obvious explanation, that gun laws are already far more restrictive than the Second Amendment allows, and the reason Congress doesn't want to tighten them further is that it is a hot button issue for a lot of voters. Few Congressmen are going to change their position on new gun laws, which largely reflect what voters in their districts want them to do.
Sometimes I forget that when Sullum isn't writing about Trump, he can do good work.
>the NRA has frequently portrayed even relatively modest regulations as the first step toward mass disarmament.
1. They're not 'modest' regulations. None of them are - not red flag laws, not storage laws, not 'universal background checks'. The latter, literally, is a necessary prelude before mass disarmament is possible.
2. The NRA plays up fear in its fundraising - but its actually been basically useless for 30 years except as cover to distract the Left while other capable activist groups get stuff done.
2. Agreed. Constantly haranguing people who had already joined the NRA to protect gun rights is annoying and counterproductive. They should have been working to increase membership, not trying to wring additional pennies from their captive audience. I guess the latter was the easier course, but it caused me to decline to renew. That, and the fact that the organizations which were then active in the courts were not the NRA anyway.
I stopped giving them money because they wouldn't stop calling me asking for more, even after I asked repeatedly to be removed from phone lists.
>And does anyone seriously suppose that the 1968 ban on mail-order rifles had a significant impact on violent crime?
*Akcherally* (pushes glasses up nose) this (along with the 4473 NICS check) might literally be the only gun control law that did anything useful.
https://hwfo.substack.com/p/visualizing-the-state-of-us-gun-law
While I get the point (Ca having over 100 gun laws that statistically do not do anything to reduce violence) I also kind of wonder about the definition of "work" and whether it matters.
For example, working "some" means what? Just enough of a reduction in gun-involved violence to be statistically detectable? Is that, in itself, enough to violate the constitutional right to bear arms with, say, a "may issue" carry law?
I might be touchy here, though. I just don't trust government to make judgement calls or balance harm with benefit. For example, may issue means you have to ask permission from the police, which is just asking for corruption, favoritism, graft, or straight up denying everyone based on the politics of the cop in charge. No law should hinge on the whims of an individual or bureaucratic department's judgement. Likewise, "some" is how much? Because the whole "if it saves just ONE child" bullshit has stripped our freedoms and destroyed the culture I knew as a very young man, so "some" may be detectable, but not nearly enough to counteract the loss of liberty the restriction engenders.
So, yeah, 101 laws that don't work and three or four that do, but even allowing all four of those is a slippery slope without rigorous debate. And advocates for more control are unlikely to engage in good faith, considering how irrational those other hundred are.
My point wasn't to get in the weeds as to whether or not these laws were *worth the tradeoff* (they're still infringements even if they're effective' but to point out that they're the only laws that have shown *any* positive correlation with reduced 'gun violence'.
Everything else has been a was or even makes things worse.
but pays little attention to gun control advocates' views.
Because who cares what those sissies have to say.
Yep, "shall not be infringed".
Bad people will do bad things so long as their isn't enforcement of our laws. This plays out with foreigners ignoring our immigration laws in the same way citizens do this with our gun laws. You can pass a laws that says no one at all is allowed to own a gun, but unless you have the wherewithal to back that up everyone will ignore it. That is the problem with gun control laws, especially in blue cities and states. They pass laws that ONLY law abiding citizens will comply with. Which is doubly not fair to the law abiding citizens. Now they are both disarmed and because the criminals know that they are more emboldened to commit more crimes (and they know they won't be prosecuted even if caught). Thats basically where the NRA stands...trying to stop the passage of do nothing laws that serve only to disarm the law abiding citizens with no effect on reducing crime. I am no longer a member of the NRA however as in recent years they have backed bills that meet that definition. One guy used a bump stock and the NRA jumped on the bandwagon to ban them. That is not how this country is supposed to work. If we could use that logic on the rest of our problems in america, I have a lot of analogous situations (far more aggregious situation in sheer numbers) that would result in many rights of people that vote Democrat being severely infringed. I would not support doing that in the same way I would not support banning anything because of the acts of a handful of people (or in this case just one person out of 340MM people).