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Immigration

Massive Migrant Reduction

Plus: Deepfakes of Biden, complaints of Californians, filters for aircrafts, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 1.23.2024 9:30 AM

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Bipartisan consensus: A deal is emerging in the Senate, supported by both Republicans and Democrats, that would reduce the number of migrants granted asylum and beef up immigration enforcement. Republicans have stipulated that a border-securing package be agreed to for Democrats to get additional Ukraine funding passed. More proof that whenever both parties agree on something, the resulting policy tends to be suboptimal from a libertarian standpoint. "It will be, by far, the most conservative border security bill in four decades," Sen. James Lankford (R–Okla.) told NBC News.

The bill will most likely restrict the president's ability to admit asylum-seekers via what's called "parole."

"Parole authority, which has existed since the 1950s, allows the government to extend migrants a special status to remain in the United States for a certain period of time," explains The New York Times. "It was designed to be used only in cases of humanitarian need, or if there was a public benefit to allowing a migrant into the country. But administrations have interpreted that guidance in different ways, sometimes ushering in whole groups of migrants under the authority."

State of play: On one hand, Republicans are correct to critique the expansion of executive power in this way. On the other, parole "serves an array of humanitarian purposes, including allowing foreign nationals without visas access to emergency or specialized medical care; allowing beneficiaries of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and green card applicants to travel internationally; or allowing undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens to regularize their status," notes The Hill.

But Republicans broadly disagree with the "catch and release" method where immigration authorities briefly detain someone who has come to the country, but then grant parole and allow them to have free rein inside the country as they await a court date. They also tend to favor axing group-based parole programs (the Biden administration has, for example, allowed many Afghans to come here following the U.S. pullout there in August 2021) and policies that force detained migrants to stay in facilities on the Mexican, not U.S., side of the border.

The Franceification of California: Teachers at all 23 campuses that comprise the California State University system walked off the job yesterday as part of a five-day strike. Roughly 29,000 employees will be part of this strike, affecting some 460,000 students. The picketers are demanding pay raises of 12 percent, instead of the mere 5 percent offered by university officials in the bargaining room. 

"University leaders said the system already spends 75 percent of its operating budget on staff compensation and cannot afford to increase salaries at that level," reports The New York Times. "The California State University Board of Trustees last year approved 6 percent annual tuition increases over five years because system officials said they could not balance their budget otherwise." 

Essentially, this is all a continuation of the trend we saw for much of last year: Workers demanding ever-larger paychecks yet remaining broadly oblivious to the economics of the broader institution. Case in point: the autoworker strikes, during which massive numbers of employees demanded that the Big Three carmakers appease them with more money, even though said carmakers are worried about how to make a pivot to electric vehicles and automated vehicles happen, and how to stay competitive in the future.


Scenes from New York:

A bunch of marching Nazis bumping into one another as they try to figure out Metrocards on their way back to Hoboken is a Mel Brooks scene https://t.co/WOqc5ryaB5

— Jordan Zakarin (@jordanzakarin) January 21, 2024


QUICK HITS

  • All signs are pointing toward a big Donald Trump win over Nikki Haley in New Hampshire tonight. Ron DeSantis' supporters, now that the Florida governor has dropped out, mostly seem like they're picking Trump over Haley.
  • Israel and Hamas are fighting in Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip, worsening the humanitarian crisis there. Ambulances are struggling to reach the injured, and hospitals are not equipped to save those who have been wounded.
  • Kayak.com now has a flight filter that allows travelers to exclude certain aircraft models from their search results—likely a response to a few recent high-profile flight mishaps.
  • Autoworker unions make cars more expensive, right after securing their pay raise (lol):

The UAW has asked the Biden administration to raise tariffs on imported cars (from everywhere (MFN), not just China): https://t.co/AfYP9gu88I pic.twitter.com/gJjAhPaJaS

— Scott Lincicome (@scottlincicome) January 22, 2024

  • New reporting from Israel, courtesy of Nancy Rommelmann (whose whole globetrotting Reason archive you should check out).
  • "The introverts have taken over the U.S. economy" announces a headline over at Bloomberg. "During the pandemic, a lot of Americans had to stay home—and many discovered that they preferred staying in to going out." I would theorize that the "takeover" is probably somewhat attributable to inflation—nights out got harder to afford—and also somewhat attributable to neuroses being indulged and fostered during the COVID era, during which virtue was made out of being a shut-in.
  • Nick Gillespie interviewed Coleman Hughes on the separation of race and state. It's a must-listen if you're interested in colorblindness, rolling back DEI, and questions of which activist techniques actually result in meaningful change.
  • And you thought we were getting deepfake porn! Instead, we're getting deepfake Joe Biden.

Who's behind this?

NBC News reports that residents in New Hampshire are getting robocalls with a deepfake of Biden's voice telling them not to vote in the state's Tuesday primary. pic.twitter.com/xEsumlLamv

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 22, 2024

  • Reminds me of AOC at the Met Gala:

I still think about this pic.twitter.com/n9TMv649Pt

— Mike Solana (@micsolana) January 22, 2024

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    A bunch of marching Nazis bumping into one another as they try to figure out Metrocards on their way back to Hoboken is a Mel Brooks scene

    I haven't seen the video, is it the Fed Nazis or the pro-Palestine Nazis?

    1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

      I'M KIDDING. RELAX.

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    2. Minadin   1 year ago

      Which are the ones who always show up with perfectly pressed khakis and government-issued boots?

      1. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

        ^This^

        The pressed khakis and clean, scuff free boots are a dead giveaway.

      2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

        How is it that no journolist follows them to see where they get off?

        1. HorseConch   1 year ago

          They know they won't like the answer.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Feds.

      1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

        It’s Nazis posing as Feds posing as Nazis. It fails because it’s so difficult to tell Feds and Nazis apart.

    4. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      They must be real Misek-level Aryan Pure Supermen if they think riding in a NYC subway is a "White Privilege. "
      🙂
      😉
      And hey! It's not like they have any gonads that can be damaged by the turnstile.
      🙂
      😉

    5. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      But somehow "white supremacy" is the paramount threat to the country?

    6. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      "A bunch of marching Nazis"

      Weird that we get a bunch more "gas the jews" rhetoric from the pro-palestine folks than the "NAzis" they rail against

      1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

        That is because, itonically, the Israelis are the Nazis for the progressive stack in that conflict.

        1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

          Its really bizarro clown world, imagine describing this scenario to anyone even 10 years ago.

          "Ya, the Nazi's are the evil people supporting the Jews, also the Jews themselves. Those guys over there, the "kill the jews" crowd? Ya, those are the good guys. They are fighting against the Nazis"

          1. DesigNate   1 year ago

            It’s quite amazing what the left is able to do to the language.

          2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            Herr Misek summed up.
            🙂
            😉

  2. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    All signs are pointing toward a big Donald Trump win over Nikki Haley in New Hampshire tonight.

    Kochtopus hardest hit?

    1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

      Boehm says it will be competitive.

      1. Quo Usque Tandem   1 year ago

        Talking heads and commentators always say what they want it to be, never what something is actually is or is likely to be.

        That is why when reality fails to conform to their ideology, they break down and cry.

        I love watching that.

      2. CE   1 year ago

        It looks pretty close so far, 53 to 46 percent with 27percent counted.

    2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      Nevertrumpers are going to run third party.

      1. CE   1 year ago

        RFK Jr starting to get ballot access to run against the geezers in November....

        https://apnews.com/article/robert-kennedy-president-election-utah-ballot-863513ec2bf75d1efc9b202cb8ddcc4a

        1. m1shu   1 year ago

          RFK Jr is 70 years old. It's pretty sad he's the spring chicken.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Israel and Hamas are fighting in Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip, worsening the humanitarian crisis there.

    Hamas is doing everything it can to get the Palestinian people everything it can.

    1. CE   1 year ago

      Imagine how much worse off they would be if all that aid money hadn't gone to procure rockets to defend against the colonizers.

  4. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

    Israel and Hamas are fighting in Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip, worsening the humanitarian crisis there. Ambulances are struggling to reach the injured, and hospitals are not equipped to save those who have been wounded.

    Hamas can end the suffering in 15 minutes. Surrender.

    1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      They need to end it sooner, as those hospital generators have only 10 minutes of fuel left.

      1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

        It ends when the bullet fired from an IDF gun enters the cranium of the last living Hamas member.

        As for the arabs living in Gaza, it is time to leave.

        1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

          No. They have to stay in Gaza. None of their Arab neighbors who are willing to give big bucks to Hamas for weapons and other support are willing to take them. The ones that they got stuck with in 1948 are still in “refugee camps “.

          1. CountmontyC   1 year ago

            I am all for finding them an island far away from everyone else and settle them there.

            1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

              Bikini Atoll?

              1. CountmontyC   1 year ago

                Does it still glow at night?
                I am thinking somewhere a couple hundred miles off of Madagascar. Let them prove that they can build a real society and let their sponsors like Iran fund it

          2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

            The Palestinians are to Arabs what the Aztecs were to Indians, murderous trouble.

      2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

        That was 10 minutes ago, now they only have a few hours left.

      3. Agammamon   1 year ago

        So . . . they can run for another 6 weeks;)

        And here we thought it was the Jews god delivered the oil miracle to!

  5. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Kayak.com now has a flight filter that allows travelers to exclude certain aircraft models from their search results...

    Should be fine as long as the aircraft in question isn't one of the most popular models in use.

    1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      Boeing CEO's bonus hardest hit, lol. And rightfully so.

      1. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

        Fly United.

    2. Eeyore   1 year ago

      When can I filter on the pilots gender? What if I only want to fly with a xe, xer, xhem, or whatever?

      1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

        What about by BMI? No fat chicks.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Look up "cargo cult".

      3. CLM1227   1 year ago

        Vaccinated status?

      4. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        Pilot's religion?

    3. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Pro Tip: You actually want to use the reverse filter and want to fly on the models that are getting all the extra scrutiny. Leave the derelicts waiting to blow up like a warm slot machine to the poor bastards that don't understand statistics and probability.

  6. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

    All signs are pointing toward a [Yuuuuuge!] Donald Trump win over Nikki Haley in New Hampshire tonight. Ron DeSantis' supporters, now that the Florida governor has dropped out, mostly seem like they're picking Trump over Haley.

    CO and ME ballot cases hardest hit...

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      MORE FORTIFICATION NEEDED!

      1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

        Another bullshit ballot case turned away yesterday, MI I believe.

    2. Eeyore   1 year ago

      CO won't matter. If Hitler himself was the only blue candidate on the ballot, he would win the state.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Gosh, it's totally unexpected that Trump Lite voters would be more likely to migrate to Trump rather than the Establishment/Deep State waifu.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    The UAW has asked the Biden administration to raise tariffs on imported cars...

    NEVER APPEASE TERRORISTS

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Best union president ever!

    2. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      I'm sure Boehm will be along shortly to blast the union chief for actual protectionist tariffs.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Haha, good one.

    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

      I saw that the UAW president said he wants “everybody to walk out”. But wait, didn’t they just sign new contracts with the big 3?

      Yup. He was talking about may 1, 2028 when the contract expires.

      Pre planned grievance. Must suck to live that way. Fuck that guy.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Autoworker unions make cars more expensive, right after securing their pay raise...

    That's one way I suppose of trying to stave off pricing yourself out of the labor market.

    1. Fats of Fury   1 year ago (edited)

      Here’s how many UAW-represented autoworkers are employed at each company:

      At Ford, there are more than 57,000 UAW workers. At GM, there are about 46,000 UAW workers. At Stellantis, there are about 43,000 UAW workers.

      Looks like the UAW is going to have to try organizing the robots or head down to Mexico.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    "During the pandemic, a lot of Americans had to stay home—and many discovered that they preferred staying in to going out."

    Also you fucks forced plenty of destinations out of business.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

      But they brought in many new food trucks.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        And hundreds of crafty businesses sold hip cloth masks on Etsy.

        1. CE   1 year ago

          Too bad they weren't emblazoned with:
          "This mask doesn't protect you, and your mask doesn't protect me."

  10. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    NBC News reports that residents in New Hampshire are getting robocalls with a deepfake of Biden's voice telling them not to vote in the state's Tuesday primary.

    Skynet Brandon taking a page out of Trump's playbook.

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      "Who’s behind this?"

      Well the last 20 or 30 similar incidents were the Lincoln Project or the FBI.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        The same fibbies who struggle with turnstiles have mastered AI?

        1. DesigNate   1 year ago

          Separate departments.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      I bet any members of The Free State Project who got those robo-calls were really pissed!
      🙂
      😉

    3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

      "The ruse failed however, as the sentences spoken were articulate and coherent."

      1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

        Ouch.

  11. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Massive Migrant Reduction'

    Is this a "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids" sort of reduction? Cuz that would be genius for solving the border crisis. Who wouldn't want millions of miniature migrants running tiny food trucks and candy factories?

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      I thought it was a sauce in a fancy restaurant.

      1. Anomalous   1 year ago

        Sounds spicy.

      2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        It's the only thing to serve on your soylant green. Once you've tried it, you'll never ask for it any other way.

  12. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

    Kayak.com now has a flight filter that allows travelers to exclude certain aircraft models from their search results

    Diversity is our strength. Also, nobody needs 23 kinds of aircraft.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Only a GenZer Socialist could say those two sentences in the same breath.
      🙂
      😉

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        But imagine the anti-capitalist, economic justice, diversity paradise if all planes had to be hand-made artisan products, built of only renewable materials, powered by gay unicorn farts, and flown by people at the very bottom of the intersectional oppression scale.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          Not to mention Fat Pride flight attendants and Islamist pilots.
          🙂
          😉

    2. Lester75   1 year ago

      Well, it would be good to be able to filter out the kinds of aircraft where the doors fall off.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    A deal is emerging in the Senate...

    Grooooan.

    ...supported by both Republicans and Democrats...

    GROOOOANNN.

    ...that would reduce the number of migrants granted asylum and beef up immigration enforcement.

    Well, it's settled. We're getting more migrants.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      The agreement essentially legalizes current practices.

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        They do have to get a court date, then bam, a work visa. I'm sure that won't cause more to keep coming.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Scheduled court dates 10 years out.

      2. CE   1 year ago

        Where "beef up" means "spend more money" to achieve the same thing.

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      The establishment uniparty will pretend to slow illegal immigration if you let them plow more money into their laundering op.

    3. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      What does it do to the migrants who are saying "fuck it lets just walk past this porous border wall and head to NYC for a free bed" ?

      Im assuming, unaffected to increased

  14. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    The picketers are demanding pay raises of 12 percent, instead of the mere 5 percent offered by university officials in the bargaining room.

    AND A GAZA CEASEFIRE, RIGHT???

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Just for fun, let's offer the strikers a choice: pay raise or ceasefire.

      1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

        would be a very entertaining, if not completely predictable, outcome

  15. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Republicans have stipulated that a border-securing package be agreed to for Democrats to get additional Ukraine funding passed.'

    Democrats as the war party? Excuse my Rip Van Winkle "Huh?"

    Somebody should check historical data, and see if Democrats support war only when they want to distract us from domestic problems.

    1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      Looking at the 20th century. Yeah, Democrats were in charge when four out of the five major conflicts we fought in started.*

      *Major Conflicts per my estimation WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Dessert Storm/Shield (a major conflict based on the number of troops involved not length of combat, if we only count the length of combat the Dems are four for four). Also, except WW2, we weren't attacked in any of the five major conflicts.

  16. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    "Parole authority, which has existed since the 1950s, allows the government to extend migrants a special status to remain in the United States for a certain period of time," explains The New York Times. "It was designed to be used only in cases of humanitarian need, or if there was a public benefit to allowing a migrant into the country. But administrations have interpreted that guidance in different ways, sometimes ushering in whole groups of migrants under the authority."

    Does working for Koch Industries count as a public benefit?

  17. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago (edited)

    ‘Essentially, this is all a continuation of the trend we saw for much of last year: Workers demanding ever-larger paychecks yet remaining broadly oblivious to the economics of the broader institution.’

    Dude, economics is racist. Fairness requires paychecks unconstrained by budgets.

    But millions of more immigrants will fix this, right?

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      We won’t stop until everyone is getting above average pay!

    2. mamabug   1 year ago

      12%? That is just demanding that salary's try to keep place with inflation at this point.

      1. CE   1 year ago

        How is that possible, in a country with The Inflation Reduction Act?

  18. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    A bunch of marching Nazis bumping into one another as they try to figure out Metrocards on their way back to Hoboken is a Mel Brooks scene

    Better known as feds.

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      Nazis don’t go for that gay bumping shit,

      1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

        There is a lot of nut to butt in government training I hear.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        The trans nazi planning a shoot out did.

      3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Ernst Röhm and the Brownshirts want a word.

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          Also, Irma Grese.

        2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          They would if the rest of the Nazis actually loyal to the Nazi ideology hadn't wiped them out, with support of both Catholic and Protestant Churches.

          By the bye, if Nazism really was Anti-Christian and Pro-Homosexual, it's not bloody likely it ever would have had much appeal in the prevailing Wowser culture of the United States at the time, as shown here below. (Note the Cross-shaped flag pole at :50--:56 and the God Talk of the Nazi speaker at 1:29--1:46):

          Nazi Town, USA | Chapter 1 | American Experience | PBS
          https://youtu.be/Cbp_nXMLonw?si=GmF4eYQi7HQFE_yB

  19. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'All signs are pointing toward a big Donald Trump win over Nikki Haley in New Hampshire tonight. Ron DeSantis' supporters, now that the Florida governor has dropped out, mostly seem like they're picking Trump over Haley.'

    WHY WON'T THEY LISTEN TO THEIR BETTERS?!?

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      This is why Jeff insists on Top Men. Leaving it to the voters is an assault on democracy.

    2. Super Scary   1 year ago

      They're voting against their own economic interests! Someone save them from themselves!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Translation: "Someone save our vision from how the rabble should behave from their independent choices!"

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      The hilarious part is the "center-right" simps in full cope mode right now, after months of claiming that "the majority" of Republicans didn't support Trump, or that his support was declining.

      This is why you shouldn't take their word that there is a "vast middle" that makes a third party viable here, either. These are self-soothing measures to avoid dealing with the fact that they are fully in the Democrat camp now. Some, like the Lincoln Project pedos or NeverTrump ex-GOP Coloradans, simply arrived there quicker than the Dispatch crowd has.

  20. JesseAz   1 year ago

    At the same time CISA, a subsidiary of DHS, was working to censor social for claims of voter fraud risks... internal DHS memos were highlighting the increased election fraud risk from mass mail in voting.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/dhs-agency-warned-about-integrity-mail-voting-2020-election-while

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      “It’s perfectly safe”!

      /jeff

      1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

        As long as you wear a mask - - - - - -

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        DHS agents are conspiracy theorists.

        /sarcasmic

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

      Did they censor themselves for spreading a racist conspiracy theory?

  21. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Two Americas.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/real-story-two-americas

    First, there are the cultural and over-educated snobs – the kind of people who religiously read the New York Times, drive EVs, wear Harvard or Yale sweaters, and have never even heard of NASCAR or eaten at Popeyes or ridden a John Deere tractor.

    And then there is normal main street America. The snobs thumb their collective noses at the unrefined working-class Americans. The elites believe they are intellectually, culturally, and morally superior to the working class and rural America. You won’t see too many elites at a Trump rally with 30,000 people.

    A group I helped found, the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, just published a study entitled “Them Vs. U.S.” examining how America’s cultural elites (defined as at least one postgraduate degree, $150,000+ annual income, high-density urban residence, and attended an Ivy League school) are hopelessly out of touch with ordinary Americans. Pollster Scott Rasmussen did the research.

    Here are some of the key jaw-dropping revelations from the survey:

    * Financial Well-being: Nearly three-quarters of the elites surveyed, believe they are better off now financially than they were when Joe Biden entered the White House. Less than 20% of ordinary Americans feel the same way.

    * Individual Freedom: Elites are three times more likely than all Americans to say there is too much individual freedom in the country. Astonishingly, almost half of the elites and almost six-of-ten ivy leaguers say there is too much freedom.

    * Climate Change: An astonishing 72% of the Elites – including 81% of the Elites who graduated from the top universities – favor banning gas cars. And majorities of elites would ban gas stoves, non-essential air travel, SUVs, and private air conditioning. That means no air travel with the kids to Disney World.

    * Education: Most elites think that teachers unions and school administrators should control the agenda of schools. Most mainstream Americans think that parents should make these decisions.

    Oh, and about three-quarters of these cultural elites are Biden supporters.

    Silicon Valley, Manhattan, and Washington, D.C. have become bubbles that have lost contact with everyday Americans. This explains why the political class – which is a big part of the elite group – is confused by poll numbers showing that voters are feeling financially stressed out. The elites are doing fine, so they believe that everyone is prospering.

    Crime, illegal immigration, inflation, fentanyl, and factory closings aren’t keeping the elite up at night because in their cocoons they don’t encounter these problems on a daily basis the way so many Americans do today.

    Not too many main street Americans are losing sleep about climate change or LGBTQ issues.

    1. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

      And majorities of elites would ban ... non-essential air travel... That means no air travel with the kids to Disney World.

      Well, no air travel to Disney World for anyone but them. They want to ban "non-essential air travel," and any flight they take on their private jet is, by definition "essential."

      The elites: "We're better than you, and we know it!"

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Corporate jets to escape EU’s ‘green’ aviation fuel tax

        Shitty peons annual holiday to Ibiza on a Ryanair deal isn't near as important as Top Men spending the weekend networking and banging hookers at Davos.

    2. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      Elites - "Let them eat gluten-free cake."

      Meanwhile, the unwashed are hatching plots.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Hey! A feature article about Rev. Artie!
      🙂
      😉

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        Impossible, there's no mention of flourishing capes.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Eloi and Morlocks.

    5. DesigNate   1 year ago

      “Financial Well-being: Nearly three-quarters of the elites surveyed, believe they are better off now financially than they were when Joe Biden entered the White House. Less than 20% of ordinary Americans feel the same way.”

      Considering OBL used to post links to how much better the donor class was doing under Biden, this isn’t that shocking to me.

      “Education: Most elites think that teachers unions and school administrators should control the agenda of schools. Most mainstream Americans think that parents should make these decisions.”

      Hmmm, now who do I know that sounds just like that?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        “Education: Most elites think that teachers unions and school administrators should control the agenda of schools. Most mainstream Americans think that parents should make these decisions.”

        Hmmm, now who do I know that sounds just like that?

        Fatfuck?

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Heavy is the head who carries Jeff's snacks.

        2. R Mac   1 year ago

          Trust the experts!

          —Collectivist Jeffy

    6. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

      Crime, illegal immigration, inflation, fentanyl, and factory closings aren’t keeping the elite up at night because in their cocoons they don’t encounter these problems on a daily basis the way so many Americans do today.

      Yeah, look at idiots like Patterico or Nick “Allahpussy” Cattogio thinking that the war in Ukraine was more important than inflation at home. People like this have no understanding of how anyone outside their upper-class bubble actually thinks, which is why they’re too stupid to figure out how to market a 2005-era GOP candidate, despite having corporate cock permanently lodged in their throat.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        I'll note here, because the center-right doofuses who read these comments sections certainly aren't smart or self-aware enough to recognize or acknowledge it, that while TARP was arguably the watershed for the populists and social conservatives from separating from the neocons, what really kicked things off was Bush's ham-fisted efforts to appease the pro-immigration lobby, during a period when Democrats were openly bragging that increased immigration numbers would turn states like Texas blue, and their anti-white beliefs were being solidified as the cultural consensus.

        It wasn't taxes or criticism of foreign wars or economic protectionism that made Trump the GOP standard-bearer--it was him homing right in on immigration and telling voters that he was going to put a stop to the Hart-Celler era. But the center-right doesn't want to believe this is the one of the most pressing issues the country's facing, and never did, mostly because they still believe we can take in unlimited immigration and the country will still retain the 1980s cultural identity they remember as the glory days--an identity that ended right around the time the first plane slammed into the World Trade Center. They're always trying to re-direct to some other issue while promoting warmed-over policy fixes that the vast majority of the party's voters simply do not support, or have no interest in whatsoever.

        Having consistently failed to understand the left's will to power, they also retain the naive belief that politics should always be an amiable exercise in compromise, not actually conserving anything but simply ensuring the left takes us into the wall at 40 mph rather than 100 mph. Meanwhile, they ignored or dismissed the fact that the party's voters were getting more and more pissed with them for continually retreating in the face of left-wing political aggression--a rather ironic pose, considering their chest-beating warmongering outside the nation's borders.

        That's how they got their asses kicked in the culture war, and why Trump was appealing to them here, as well, because here was an elite who wasn't afraid to tell his fellow elites to go fuck themselves. The center-right is congenitally allergic to actually pushing back against the left in any conceivable way that matters, but is forever scolding the right for not letting the left have their way in exchange for political wampum. Meanwhile, they celebrate every expansion of the surveillance state, because "if you have nothing to hide, what are you afraid of?"

        Hence, Haley's hilarious waffling on abortion ("6 weeks, 10 weeks, 12 weeks, 20 weeks, whatever the left lets us have, we should be happy with"), while taking hard lines on ending internet anonymity and expanding the TSA into schools.

        1. Minadin   1 year ago

          " . . . expanding the TSA into schools."

          I honestly didn't recall her saying this - I must have forgotten that she had. But she did.

          https://reason.com/2024/01/05/no-nikki-haley-we-dont-need-to-turn-schools-into-airports-the-place-literally-everyone-hates/

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            Shit like this was a big reason Rand Paul openly declared himself #NeverNikki.

          2. R Mac   1 year ago

            Yeah, it wasn’t bad enough she’s a warmonger, she had to toss the internet ID and School SA out there. Like who the fuck thought that would be smart to campaign on?

        2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          Well put. I have a hard time understanding the tendency, but living in a border state may make it somewhat more piquant and obvious for me.

    7. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      Reading a book on 17th century England, what led up to the English Civil War, the briefly lived English Republic and the return of the Stuarts and the Glorious Revolution. Only made it through the first two chapters covering the early years of James the 1st, but there are some definite parallels. History doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes. Then again, Samuel Clemens was a rich white guy who served (briefly) in the CSA Army so he's likely been cancelled (and I hear he used the word that shall not be named in some of his writings).

      1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        Oh and he helped ghost write Grant's autobiography and Grant once owned a slave (that was given to his wife and who Grant freed) and Grant was a Republican, so even more proof he, Clemens, needs to be cancelled.

  22. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Defense attorneys claim DoJ is ramping up charges against Blaze journalist who has been exposing the lies of the narratives of J6. Responsible for proving officers lied on the stand in the Oath Keepers trial as well as identified "undercover officer" who found the J5 pipe bomb (bomb was inert and never active).

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/6-attorneys-allege-doj-seeking-retribution-against-journalist-recent-jan-6-coverage

    1. Minadin   1 year ago

      Is that the pipe bomb that, once 'discovered', all the officers nonchalantly acted like it was the most routine thing ever, and not a danger to life and limb?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Maybe. The one they borrowed from the evidence room with a 1972 date tag?

      2. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

        Correct. The officers even watched, a few minutes after being informed about the "bomb," as a group of children were walked right by the bench the "bomb" was under. No effort to direct them away from what the officers supposedly thought was a bomb. Not suspicious at all.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      They're pissed that he helped blow up their narrative.

    3. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

      You might think this would be deeply concerning to an organization which is interested in freedom of the press.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        It is. Why libertarian outfits and others like zero hedge are mentioning.

        Oh. You meant Reason.

        1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

          I suppose that the reporter's employer is Blaze it is questionable to certain folks whether that person counts as a journalist with press freedoms.

          1. R Mac   1 year ago

            He should really just be murdered:

            https://twitter.com/mattwelch/status/1102654202545913857?s=12

            1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

              Welch? I mean, I can't argue.

    4. Sevo   1 year ago

      "...identified “undercover officer” who found the J5 pipe bomb (bomb was inert and never active)."

      That bit of BS came and went in the blink of an eye, along with the 'death by fire extinguisher' crap.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        To be fair, the death by fire extinguisher lasted quite awhile thanks to my old buddy Mike Liarson.

  23. JesseAz   1 year ago

    A deal is emerging in the Senate, supported by both Republicans and Democrats, that would reduce the number of migrants granted asylum and beef up immigration enforcement.

    Lol. The deal that limits the Biden administration to only 5000 catch and releases a day before they execute the actual border policy?

    1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

      The union will never agree to that. 5000/day seems like a lot of work.

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      On one hand, Republicans are correct to critique the expansion of executive power in this way. On the other, parole "serves an array of humanitarian purposes, including allowing foreign nationals without visas access to emergency or specialized medical care; allowing beneficiaries of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and green card applicants to travel internationally; or allowing undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens to regularize their status," notes The Hill.

      Economic, not humanitarian. At the costs of hundreds of billion a year based on recent paroles and illegal immigration.

      It was so bad illegals on new york protested when the state tried moving them from a hotel into a different shelter.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        More proof that whenever both parties agree on something, the resulting policy tends to be suboptimal from a libertarian standpoint.

        Yeah, whatever, Ms. "I Live 2000 Miles From The Southern Border".

        How about a deal limiting "asylum" claims to people who actually have the statutory privilege to seek asylum here. Like, for example, people who didn't pass through half a dozen other countries to get here. And a deal that sends everyone already here who came in claiming "asylum" who doesn't meet that standard back home. Or at least to the first country they passed through.

        The UN Asylum Protocol is to assist people fleeing wars and severe political persecution. It's not (intended as) a means to venue shop for economic advantage.

        If they're just economic migrants, make them admit that, classify them as such, hell, even let them in, but send them elsewhere if they can't be net positive taxpayers. We already cannot afford to support the poor people who are actually citizens. We certainly cannot support the poor of every other nation as well.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          One of the biggest jokes that open borders people take is declaring anyone should be able to cross if they have a sponsor. There is a sponsorship program detailing a business or individual is responsible for costs accrued by the state for supporting immigrants. It is never actually required as the law states to go after sponsors for these costs.

          If there was a true sponsorship program with people agreeing to bear the costs and did, there would be less pushback against illegal immigration. But right now idiots like jeff and sarc (see below) justify using the power of state to collect taxes to pay for their welfare.

          On top of that, letting in 3M (last year) illegals into the country isn't functional from even an infrastructure stand point.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Keep demonizing immigrants while demanding no changes to Social Security and Medicare.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Stop conflating legal and illegal immigration.

            2. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

              Where was the demonization?

              You seem extra emotional during your periods.

              Extra funny as I already responded to your lie and false assertion below. Lol.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                You attack anyone who questions them being called vermin that are poisoning the blood of the nation. That qualifies as demonization to me.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                  I haven’t attacked you for such. I attacked you for changing what Trump said (adding cleanse multiple times even after you were given the actual quote), pointed out your lack of outrage when the left calls conservatives vermin, and then laughed at you for pushing the leftist trump is hitler bullshit. This doesn’t make you a retard though. The entire summation of your knowledge makes you the retard.

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    I haven’t attacked you for such.

                    *snort*

                    I attacked you for changing what Trump said (adding cleanse multiple times even after you were given the actual quote)

                    Once I saw the original quote for myself I stopped, so you are stretching the truth in order to promote a lie.

                    pointed out your lack of outrage when the left calls conservatives vermin

                    I can't be outraged at what I don't see. Claiming I'm not outraged by something you saw on MSNBC, when I don't even have cable, is mind numbingly stupid and dishonest. Par for the course with you.

                    and then laughed at you for pushing the leftist trump is hitler bullshit

                    Laughing at a strawman you mean.

                    Honest question: Do you need to stab yourself with an EpiPen if you accidentally say something truthful?

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      You did not stop. You even added cleanse the next day dummy.

                      Pathalogical.

                2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

                  Trump never called immigrants vermin, he called leftist shits (like yourself) vermin.

                  You’ve been told this before, just like you’ve been told Tucker C didn’t get fired for promoting the false election claims of Sidney Powell

    3. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Also known as 1,850,000 a year.
      12 states have less population that that.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        They bring their own jobs, housing, and profit with them.

      2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        Only 2,100,000 in New Mexico, which is one of the states they'd be entering.

        We certainly don't have the excess housing stock to handle that.

    4. Illocust   1 year ago

      Wait is it actually 5,000 a day? Because I could see that being parody or reality.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        That was the leaked agreement. And would only take effect if the weekly average was 5000 a day, to allow for spikes to be offset by slow crossing days.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          The Republicans really are heroic negotiators aren't they. They'll only let the Democrats stick the tip and 25% of the shaft into America. No way they're letting them go balls deep.

  24. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

    And you thought we were getting deepfake porn! Instead, we're getting deepfake Joe Biden.

    Somebody is still getting fucked.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Yeah. Trump. When Biden beats him by 500M votes.

      1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

        I don't think so. That would require widespread fraud.
        Targeted fraud of less that 50,000 in the right precincts should do the trick.

        1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

          If it's targeted fraud of less than 50,000, that would mean there is "No WiDeSpReAd FrAuD!" So what are you complaining about?

    2. Unable2Reason   1 year ago

      How to pick up a goth chick

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        Hair-sniffing something like that might burn the nostrils!
        🙂
        😉

      2. Super Scary   1 year ago

        The Biden voice AI has gotten a lot better since there were those videos of AI Trump, AI Obama and AI Biden playing Minecraft. All they need to do now is add in the stumbling, mumbling and trailing off we get with the modern Biden.

  25. Randy Sax   1 year ago

    "University leaders said the system already spends 75 percent of its operating budget on staff compensation and cannot afford to increase salaries at that level,"

    Fire the massively bloated admin faculty. They are leeches who produce nothing.

    Recently there was been a minor uproar in the nerd community concerning Hasbro, (that owns DnD and Magic the Gathering), They made record profits last year, but still went through a wave of firing. Firing redundancies and useless people is a good thing. Regardless of profits. They seem to think "they made lots of money, so they should still keep paying for useless bloat". It's frustrates me that they can't comprehend how businesses work.

    1. Illocust   1 year ago

      Hasbro is fighting major bad publicity at the moment for having called the Pinkertons on a can recently, so that probably contributes.

      1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

        The Pinkertons incident was bad, I'll give you that. And on top of that the set the guy spoiled was terrible.

        1. MT-Man   1 year ago

          The sets have been bad since mythics and planeswalkers. Rules really got wonky there to satisfy the table top/EDH crowd.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        Did they sing into a can too?
        🙂
        😉
        And did the Pinkertons have the Kung-Fu Grip™?
        🙂
        😉

      3. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

        They also had some really bad marketing with Magic and seems to have oversaturated the market in a cash grab.

        Not to mention the Woke aspects their design staff, like downplaying race attributes in D&D, wanting to get rid of "witch" as a creature type in Magic, and unnecessarily race swapping major characters in their Lord of the Rings tie-in set.

        While it may suck that WotC is one of the more financially sound divisions of Hasbro and still getting hit with layoffs, Hasbro as a whole is not doing well, and this is an emotional reaction by the more left leaning parts of the Fandom.

        1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

          Witch was never a creature type, they use warlock for the type. They still use the word witch in the names of creatures. They did stop using the word "tribe" (in Magic slang it is short for "creature type"). They changed Tribal to Typal. Which is fuckn dumb. They stopped saying "man-land" (a land that turns into a creature) a few years ago because it has the word man in it. Other dumb shit like that.

        2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

          They also reprinted a card called "Bearscape", a card about literal bears, the animal, the reprint had art with a bunch of hairy gay men in it. When someone suggested they reprint "Aggravated Assault" with two of the main chicks pillow fighting in the art, they cried sexism.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

            Easy card to counter. Just play the “put them in trunks” card.

      4. DesigNate   1 year ago

        Didn’t they fire one of their best artist because her wife followed some bad think people on Twitter, too?

        1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

          Terese Nielsen. It wasn't her wife, it was herself. She is an amazing artist. WoTC dropped her for liking some tweets. It was ridiculous.

          https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=600789614&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1024US1024&q=terese+nielsen&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBtsH2kPSDAxWckokEHc3oCGMQ0pQJegQIDRAB&biw=1536&bih=738&dpr=1.25

          1. DesigNate   1 year ago

            I thought I might have the details wrong. I saw a blurb on Reddit and thought to myself: The guy that dug all that up is a neckbeard basement fuck.

            And fuck me those are gorgeous!

    2. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

      Is it wrong that after Randy's initial comment I have no idea what you people are going on about?

      1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

        It's nerd shit, don't worry about it.

    3. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      Just getting rid of the diversity departments would clear up a lot of spending.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        I have a woodchipper. Just sayin'.

  26. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'IMMIGRATION
    MIGRANTS
    BORDER CROSSINGS
    LABOR UNIONS
    CALIFORNIA
    CONGRESS
    SENATE
    REASON ROUNDUP'

    Looking at the key word links at the bottom, I wonder if this was the instruction sheet provided by the owners.

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      What? No “Orangemanbad”?

  27. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    So, what was that that Pluggo was pushing regarding Walmart closing some Sam's Club stores during the Trump Admin?

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_1628baa2-b979-11ee-bbcb-97ca6becce66.html

    More chain stores closed in 2023 as a result of high inflationary costs, with the trend continuing in 2024 led by the iconic department store, Macy’s.

    In 2023, retail stores, pharmaceutical and fast-food chains continued a trend of previous years: declaring bankruptcy and closing their doors or shutting down some locations to cut costs, citing inflation, higher costs, and profit losses.

    Last May, discount retailer Tuesday Morning announced it was closing its doors nationwide after being in business for 49 years. Home goods chain Christmas Tree Shops filed for bankruptcy and liquidated all of its stores as did the largest bridal-store chain in the U.S., David's Bridal, laying off tens of thousands of employees.

    New York-based specialty athletic retailer Foot Locker also announced it was closing 400 stores in North America by 2026, after reporting sales, gross margins and net income losses.

    Pharmaceutical giants CVS and Walgreens also closed stores as cost-cutting measures. CVS announced it planned to close 900 locations by the end of 2026; with store closures came diluted earnings per share for shareholders. After reporting over $170 million in earnings losses, Walgreens announced it was closing 450 stores to cut costs.

    Fast food chains Pizza Hut and Boston Market also closed locations in multiple states, with Boston Market’s failure to pay wages resulting in regulatory action in New Jersey and litigation in Arizona and Massachusetts.

    Since President Joe Biden took office in January 2021, inflation and prices for all goods and services soared, initially breaking 40-year record highs. As prices and costs go up, wages have gone down, “placing additional stress on family finances,” The Heritage Foundation’s “Biden Inflation Tracker” notes.

    From January 2021 to November 2023, Heritage notes that real disposable income has dropped by 7.5%, home ownership affordability has dropped by over 37%, credit card debt has increased by over 36% and Americans' monthly savings have dropped by over 81%.

    Over the same time period, consumer prices increased by more than 17%, gas prices increased by over 50%.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Nobody needs 23 kinds of stores. Or jobs.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      These people just don't understand how well Bidenomics is working. I blame the media.

  28. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Jordan Zakarin
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    A bunch of marching Nazis bumping into one another as they try to figure out Metrocards on their way back to Hoboken is a Mel Brooks scene

    Feds usually have cars, not used to public transport.

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      The entire event was staged by Feds, including the turnstile bumbling. Theater.

  29. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Tapping the brakes on EVs.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/pennsylvania/article_2e57381c-b94f-11ee-bc2b-93ffaebbc4dd.html

    Nearly 4,500 dealerships representing all major auto manufacturing brands from every state recently signed a letter to President Joe Biden asking him to “tap the brakes” on his proposed electric vehicle mandate based on a lack of consumer demand.

    The Biden administration set a target for battery electric vehicles, also known as BEVs or EVs, to account for half of all new vehicle sales by 2030 – some states have taken steps to ban internal combustion engine vehicles altogether by 2035.

    The letter says while admirable, the goal becoming a reality requires consumer acceptance. In addition to what customers are telling them, dealers say the best indicator of demand are the EVs “stacking up on our lots.”

    Enthusiasm for EVs has stalled, the dealers say, “even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives.”

    The letter goes on to say they are thrilled to sell them. However, the majority of their customers are not ready to make the change, citing concerns over affordability, charging access and range.

    Dealers are not required to take them, but the mandate requires manufacturers to build them. Anderson said he buys from the manufacturers to honor their partnership, but dealers have limits, and their lots are only so big.

    Last summer, for the first time since the pandemic, supply chains were reestablished, and they saw EV production outpace demand in a significant way. During meetings with peers nationwide, he discovered they were all experiencing the same thing.

    Through dealers’ visits to Washington, D.C. – both individually and collectively – they realized elected officials misunderstood the low demand for EVs, Anderson said.

    “If you can imagine the government mandating Chick-fil-A to make two-thirds of their sandwiches some vegetarian substitute,” said Anderson.

    They can make all those sandwiches, but you will still have most people in the drive-thru ordering chicken. He added, “You can make them, but they’re gonna just sit.”

    He said demand for ICE vehicles remains high, but it has significantly increased for plug-in hybrids. While he is sitting on a 200-day supply of EV’s, he has an almost year-long waitlist for those wanting to purchase a Toyota Prius.

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      “If you can imagine the government mandating Chick-fil-A to make two-thirds of their sandwiches some vegetarian substitute,” said Anderson.

      I'm surprised this hasn't already happened in some blue cities.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        And sold at "affordable" prices.

    2. Zeb   1 year ago

      Lack of demand isn't even the main problem. Lack of sufficient electric generation and infrastructure is also huge and makes any short term mandates a fantasy. It would be like mandating everyone switch from horses to ICEs before there was any large scale refinery and distribution capacity for gasoline.

    3. R Mac   1 year ago

      “Nearly 4,500 dealerships representing all major auto manufacturing brands from every state recently signed a letter to President Joe Biden asking him to “tap the brakes” on his proposed electric vehicle mandate based on a lack of consumer demand.”

      Business owners having to beg the president to run their businesses the way they would prefer to to make a profit, instead of to fulfill his idealogical goals?

      There’s a word for that, but I don’t want to hurt sarc’s feelings so I’ll leave it to you to decide.

  30. JesseAz   1 year ago

    All signs are pointing toward a big Donald Trump win over Nikki Haley in New Hampshire tonight. Ron DeSantis' supporters, now that the Florida governor has dropped out, mostly seem like they're picking Trump over Haley.

    Sarc already started drinking.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Of course, it's five-o'clock somewhere. I'm just waiting for whine-o'clock later today.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Trump supporters have the monopoly on whining.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Could've fooled me, Sarc.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            I'll remember that next time you whine about Trump, J6, Babbitt, the election being "stolen", culture war, and all the other things you whining Trump whiners whine about every single day.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              I know right. True Libertarians defend state abuses as long as it is people you hate.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                That's pretty rich coming from a guy who hates Chinese people, Muslims, anyone south of the border, Democrats, liberals, moderates, and basically anyone who doesn't salute whenever they see an image of Trump.

                1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

                  Pour sarc

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    Drinking used to make him feel good. Now it just drives his depression to come in and roll around in victimization.

                    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

                      Are you all a bunch of fucking goldfish? "Ooh! A castle! Ooh! A castle!" He was a retard yesterday, and the day before, and the day before that, repeat ad infinitum. He's always going to just be a retard.

                2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Do you have a citation for a single one of your claims?

                  Or just going with the standard leftist shouting of "you're racist" because youre too dumb to formulate an intelligent argument?

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    I'm not saying your racist. I'm saying you're a hateful little man who sees enemies all around you, and a savior in Trump. You defend language of mass murder because you want to see your enemies murdered.

                    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      "Language of mass murder"

                      Back to the vermin thing once again?

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Dehumanizing in general. While not all dehumanizing leads to mass murder, I can't think of any mass murder that wasn't preceded and justified by dehumanizing people.
                      I can only conclude that those who revel in dehumanizing their enemies condone mass murder.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Pour Sarc.

                    4. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      Do you have a citation for your bald assertion? Or just acting like an emotional leftist child who can’t formulate an intelligent argument?

                      Waiting on when Trump committed mass murder.

                      Waiting on you to condemn the leftist outlets using the same language.

                      I mean even one of the editors here tweeted out support of a Red Wedding. Lol.

                    5. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      This must be that darn Tulpa again. Only last week Sarcasmic swore he didn't do this.

                    6. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      "Back to the vermin thing once again?"

                      "DON'T TALK BAD ABOUT NAZIS!!!!"

                    7. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Waiting on when Trump committed mass murder.

                      Once again I can't tell if you're stupid or a liar, being that I never claimed that he did.

                      “DON’T TALK BAD ABOUT NAZIS!!!!”

                      Look at the Man from Toronto using the language of Nazis to dehumanize Nazis.

                    8. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Look at the Man from Toronto using the language of Nazis to dehumanize Nazis.

                      Your lack of geographic knowledge is showing. Since when did Canada = Toronto? Most Canadians hate Toronto, especially western Canadians.

                    9. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      He said he lives there, dumbass.

                    10. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Sarc, do you think your argument is one of intelligence? Because it is one of an emotional child.

                      Were policies under Trump anything like Hitler? Did anything he do approach genocide?

                      The fact you're so desperate to make these claims show how fucking far you've fallen. His claims are even less bad than Biden declaring half the country MAGA and insurrectionists with threats if jail and such.

                      Are you truly so stupid as to believe you're making an intelligent argument?

                    11. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      sarcasmic 14 mins ago
                      He said he lives there, dumbass.

                      ML has stated many times he's from BC or thereabouts, not Toronto.

                    12. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Oh yeah. I mixed up Vancouver with a lame movie on Netflix.

                    13. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Are you truly so stupid as to believe you’re making an intelligent argument?

                      The things you claim I'm arguing aren't intelligent, and that's why I'm not arguing them.

                      Long before Trump started using Hitleresque language I went off on Nardz for using dehumanizing language. Because while not all dehumanizing leads to mass murder, all mass murder (excluding war if you're going to continue your dishonest false equivocation) is preceded and justified by dehumanization. I don't care who does it, I'm going to speak out against it.

                    14. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Keep doubling down on Trump and Hitler comparisons. Totes makes you look intelligent.

                    15. R Mac   1 year ago

                      InsaneTrollLogic 3 hours ago
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                      Your lack of geographic knowledge is showing.

                      sarcasmic 2 hours ago
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                      He said he lives there, dumbass.

                      sarcasmic 1 hour ago
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                      Oh yeah. I mixed up Vancouver with a lame movie on Netflix

                      Thank you sarc, you really are the best at what you do.

                    16. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      "He said he lives there, dumbass."

                      I've been to Toronto only once in my life, Sarckles, and I don't live in on near Vancouver either, although that's 2000 miles closer.

                      "using the language of Nazis to dehumanize Nazis."

                      I'm collecting these for the day when Sarc insists he never ever said this.

  31. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Reeducation camp.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/22/the-shameless-campaign-to-silence-jordan-peterson/

    Writer and psychologist Jordan Peterson has lost his battle with Canada’s woke moralists. After a two-year legal fight, the Ontario Court of Appeal has ruled that the Ontario College of Psychologists has the right to send him for mandatory ‘social-media training’ – or to a ‘re-education camp’ as Peterson puts it. If he refuses, Peterson will lose his licence to practise clinical psychology.

    Peterson is effectively being punished for committing thoughtcrimes. His troubles started in 2022, when several individuals complained to the Ontario College of Psychologists about his tweets, particularly his criticisms of climate-change alarmism and gender ideology. The tweets also included comments that a plus-size model was ‘not beautiful’; that trans actor Elliot / Ellen Page ‘had her breasts removed by a criminal physician’; and that Gerald Butts, prime minister Justin Trudeau’s former principal secretary, was a ‘prik’ (sic).

    The Divisional Court also ruled that the order to undergo social-media training ‘is not disciplinary and does not prevent Dr Peterson from expressing himself on controversial topics’. This wilfully disregards the reality and impact of the order. Peterson has to undergo social-media training or he will lose his licence to practise clinical psychology. What is that if not disciplinary action?

    This isn’t just about Jordan Peterson. Ontario’s College of Psychologists is clearly using his re-education as a way of intimidating any other potential dissenters. It sends a message that opposing elite orthodoxies will not be tolerated. The precedent this sets is truly chilling.

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      LOL @ “social-media training”

    2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

      The tweets also included comments that a plus-size model was ‘not beautiful’

      "NOT HOT!"

    3. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Welcome to Florida, Jordan.

    4. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      Appreciate our freedom of speech while we still have it.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Then you have to fight for it instead of palling around with those who are against it (like your "friends" Jeffy and Pluggo).

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          At least they don't dehumanize billions of people in the hope that mass murder will follow, like your "friends."

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Then you will lose your freedoms and your rights to that crowd that you pal around with.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              While you brag about supporting mass murder.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                I know. We should just accept mass jailing of political enemies instead like you do.

                The oddest part here is the only one who actively defends murder is you mocking Babbitt.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  Keep up the boilerplate lies, officer J.

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    What lie sarc?

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                Got a cite where I brag about that, Sarc?

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                  That was adding to your future tense, dumbass.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    OK, so you have no actual citations of me doing so, so you claim I will in the future just to make yourself on the "right side". Got it.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Next time you defend the language of mass murder I'll point it out to you. Fair?

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      If you're sober enough there, buddy.

                    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Seems to be sarcs primary attack vector today. Just making shit up and not defending it even with examples. Standard leftist tactics due to ignorance.

              3. damikesc   1 year ago

                I did not see him justifying "To the River to the Sea", which is a quite explicit call for genocide done by your leftie buddies.

          2. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Pretends to defend freedom of speech, immediately attacks speech with leftist narratives. Hilarious.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              I never said you and your friends aren't allowed to voice your support for mass murder.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                I said you attacked what he said.

                Now go back to mocking J6 prisoners, saying how much it sucked Rittenhouse was allowed to defend himself, supporting deaths in Ukraine and whatever other leftist/neocon narratives you have today.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  Ok officer J, whatever you say.

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    And you coined it!

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      If you weren't a mendacious sack of shit who puts boilerplate lies into all of your posts, I wouldn't have coined the phrase.
                      Just like nobody would call Ashli "Saint Babbitt" if you hadn't canonized her as a religious martyr for the Church of Trump.

                    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Another term you coined! On a roll! Keep mocking a woman shot by officers. Truly makes the one true libertarian seem neutral.

                      But I forgot. You have no principles.

                      sarcasmic 3 weeks ago
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                      I’m saying that some people are so despicable that I’d rather disagree with them then have something in common with them.

                      Just an ignorant unprincipled emotional child. Always projecting your own behaviors on others.

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Note that I didn't say I actually disagree. The term "rather" means preference. But people don't always go with their preferences. My point was that agreeing with disgusting people like you makes me feel dirty. Not that I refuse to do it.

                      On the other hand you've made it abundantly clear that you'll never acknowledge that someone you hate is correct, that you'll never agree with someone you hate, and you show it by hating on Biden for continuing Trump's tariffs. While I can say "Good job Trump for cutting regulations and not starting any new wars. You get two pats on the back and four attaboys."

                    4. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Yes. Find ways to rationalize being unprincipled.

                    5. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      "Note that I didn’t say I actually disagree."

                      Another example of sarc's obfuscating when called on his bullshit.

          3. DesigNate   1 year ago

            They literally dehumanize: white people, heterosexuals, men, heretics & apostates (basically anyone not in those first three categories who goes against the group), capitalism, the rich, conservatives, business owners, etc. and have called for their termination.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Say what? I'm not sure who this "they" is, and I haven't seen the people you list being described as vermin that are poisoning the blood of the nation, or a cancer that needs to be cut out.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                I literally gave you the citation again (at least a dozen times now) this weekend.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                  Don’t know or care what you’re talking about. I performed a couple hit and runs, but otherwise was absent from the comments over the weekend. Like most weekends. And evenings. Though when I pop in you're always here.

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                    And another lie.

                    https://reason.com/2024/01/21/comedys-truthiness-problem/?comments=true#comment-10408577

                    Just because you have alcoholics amnesia doesn't mean you're right.

              2. DesigNate   1 year ago

                They as in the people threatening free speech (as you alluded to in your first response post).

                https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/cardiff-university-students-conservatives-tory-general-election-a9248701.html

                https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/05/arts/television/exterminate-all-the-brutes-raoul-peck.html

                Those are just the first two I could find.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                  Then fuck them too. Doesn’t make it right.

                  edit: Whoever they are. Seems pretty obscure to me. You've got academics being typical academics, and a race-baiter behind a paywall. Not very impressed.

        2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          And not voting.

    5. Super Scary   1 year ago

      "Gerald Butts, prime minister Justin Trudeau’s former principal secretary, was a ‘prik’ (sic)."

      Pretty tame if you're trying to insult a guy whose name is Butts.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        All of those seemed fairly mild by my standards. It's the internet, people are major assholes on it. You either grow a thick skin or start sounding like Sarc and Jeffy.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

          Language of mass murder!!!!

        2. Square = Circle   1 year ago

          All of those seemed fairly mild by my standards

          In fairness, though, we're talking about Canadians.

    6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      The Cuban heritage of Canadian government shows.

    7. mamabug   1 year ago

      I forget the details, but isn't there another round of appeals/extra-judicial proceedings if he refuses the training that is needed to actually remove his license and which has said he will force them to do in a manner open to the public (and recorded for posterity)?

      Why am I having visions of the 'obsolete' episode of the Twilight Zone?

  32. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Why do I get the feeling Democrats would love to try this in the US?

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/22/the-anti-democratic-plot-to-ban-the-afd/

    The rise of the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party has rattled the German political class. The right-wing populist party is now performing better in national polls than all three governing parties combined. It is also polling first in all five of Germany’s eastern states, three of which are due to hold elections later this year. Baffled and alarmed by the AfD’s growing popularity, many in the German mainstream have decided there is only one solution to their AfD problem: ban the party outright.

    Strikingly, all those campaigning for a ban claim to be doing so in the name of democracy. Last year, German president Frank-Walter Steinmeier delivered an astonishing speech in which he claimed that Germany has ‘it in our hands to put those who despise democracy back in their place’. Although he did not name the AfD or call explicitly for it to be banned, the implications were clear. Similarly, an editorial in German news magazine Der Spiegel last year called for the ‘enemies of the constitution’ to be banned, claiming that ‘it’s time to defend democracy with sharper weapons’.

    The problems with this approach ought to be obvious. It assumes that the elites should decide which ideas and parties are acceptable on the electorate’s behalf – in order to ‘save’ democracy from the errant public.

    The calls to ban the AfD also show us how easily the concept of ‘defensive democracy’ can be used to clamp down on parties the elite simply doesn’t like. For all its faults, the AfD is not a fascist party. Its opposition to migration can sometimes stray into contemptible racism and xenophobia, as the recent meeting with the Identitarian Movement demonstrates. But the growing support for the AfD is not a sign of a neo-Nazi revival.

    Far from heralding the end of democracy, many voters are turning to the AfD precisely because of Germany’s lack of democratic representation. Some 77 per cent of German voters feel they have no power over what the government does. Much of the growing support for the AfD is down to the failures of the political establishment and its refusal to even address key issues.

    In their clamour to ban the AfD, the German elites have revealed themselves to be the real threat to German democracy. Perhaps it’s no wonder that so many voters are desperate to find an alternative.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Democracy is trans now. Authoritarianism identifies as democratic.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

      It didn't work out too well for Germany the last time the Nazis took over.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        And your evidence that the AfD are Nazis, Pluggo? Or are you just slandering them?

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

          from your link:

          The right-wing populist party is now performing better in national polls than all three governing parties combined.

          Expel all the non-Aryans. I don't care.

          1. Nobartium   1 year ago

            You heard it here first folks. The retarded child-porn-spreader thinks Nazism is popular.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Right-wing and populist does not mean National Socialists (who were more of the left and embraced by the left until that little event called WWII).

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

              Secret Meeting of AfD and neo-Nazis: The Expulsion of Millions of People from Germany

              https://sarajevotimes.com/secret-meeting-of-afd-and-neo-nazis-the-expulsion-of-millions-of-people-from-germany/

              The whole fucking world knows that "NAZI" and "right-wing" are synonymous, you moron.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                This is a great example of why right-wing and left-wing are meaningless terms. Either side can cherry pick policies from any historical bad guy and claim they would have been on the other team.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Like claiming trump is Hitler for saying blood and vermin?

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    Keep defending the language of mass murder.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      Trump is a mass murderer now? How did the media miss this?

                      You keep clowning yourself like your ignorance on the history of slavery yesterday. Lol.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I said "language of mass murder" officer J. Keep up the lies. I'd be very concerned if you said anything that was remotely close to the truth.

                    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Hitler said many things. He used nouns, verbs, adjectives. What language?

                      You mean the quotes you had to add words to to make up your attack?

                      You mean words the left corporate media you support gas used for years?

                      You really are more of an emotional child today than usual.

                    4. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      “language of mass murder”

                      Fuck, wait until you hear what Churchill and Roosevelt said about the Nazis. Practically genocide, right Sarc?

                    5. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      "I said “language of mass murder”

                      This is such an incredibly contrived and dishonest claim. Sarc's performed Olympic-tier mental gymnastics over the last two weeks trying to make opprobrium against Nazis and communists a bad thing.

                    6. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Not all dehumanizing leads to mass murder, but all mass murder is preceded by dehumanizing.

                      Keep on defending the dehumanizing of people ML. Your end game is clear.

                    7. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Lol. Your ignorance of base sociology is mesmerizing. The 100 years war didn't involve dehumanization, it led to a lot of damn deaths. World War 1 had a shit ton of deaths, was political.

                      Are you this fucking retarded sarc? Learn from your ignorance on slavery. Stop saying stupid shit.

                    8. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      And if you want to claim wars are not mass murder….

                      Siege of Tyre. Alexander the great kills an entire town. For merely refusing to surrender. Hannibal raided and killed many on his March. Kublai khan and ghengis khan.

                      Your ignorance to history is mesmerizing.

                    9. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                      And if you want to claim wars are not mass murder….

                      Caught your own lie then doubled down on it. I would expect nothing less. Because you know I'm not referring to war. You know this. That's why you're making a false equivocation. Anything else would be honest, and we all know you have a severe allergic reaction to honesty. You probably carry an EpiPen on the off chance you accidentally tell the truth.

                    10. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      Wait. Youre going with conquests including mass murder of civilians isnt mass murder?

                      LOL.

                      Wow. For the love of God sarc. Read a fucking history book.

                      The examples I gave in the post included straight conquests. Not wars. God damn youre an idiot.

                    11. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      False equivalence for the win!

                      You and your fallacies. Like chocolate and peanut butter. Can't be beat.

                    12. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      I'll add false equivalence to words you don't understand.

                    13. R Mac   1 year ago

                      “language of mass murder”

                      You’re a fucking clown, sarc.

                    14. R Mac   1 year ago

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                      Wow. For the love of God sarc. Read a fucking history book.

                      Reminder: all the people killed by the Bolsheviks were killed by governments!

                    15. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      "Keep on defending the dehumanizing of people ML. Your end game is clear."

                      WHAT'S MY END GAME SARCKLES?
                      Eliminating Nazis?
                      You've got me dead to rights on that.

                      ...Fucking moron.

                      "False equivalence for the win!"

                      That's not false equivalence, you absolute retard. I swear you get it wrong all the time on purpose.

              2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                Your use of false leftist narratives instead of historical facts is noted.

              3. Sevo   1 year ago

                turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

              4. damikesc   1 year ago

                Hmm, the original reporting from Correctiv seems quite laden with "was said to..." in describing what occurred.

          3. Sevo   1 year ago

            turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
            But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

          4. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

            Expel all the non-Aryans. I don’t care.

            That looks like decolonization.

            Surely you have heard of decolonization.

          5. DesigNate   1 year ago

            No matter how much you try to spread that lie, Nazism was never and will never be a child of the right, as all forms of collectivism come from the left.

            Oh, and that pernicious little detail that they were fucking socialist.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

              "right wing" has meant special group or privileged class since the French Revolution you idiot.

              Go tell millions of journalists (like the ones I quote) and scholars that you invented a new meaning.

              1. Nobartium   1 year ago

                You heard it here first: Blacks are now right wing.

                All Hail the CP spreader, and his infinitely wrong knowledge.

              2. R Mac   1 year ago

                Nobody believes your bullshit. Except sarc now, I guess.

              3. damikesc   1 year ago

                "“right wing” has meant special group or privileged class since the French Revolution you idiot."

                So, the entire DEI machine is now "right wing"? They very much have a special group and privileged class.

                Must be nice to simply label everything embarrassing as "Well, that is not my group"

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

        Mass protests against Germany’s far-right AfD over deportation ‘master plan’
        .
        A ‘master plan’ for deportation
        Many Germans are outraged by reports that senior members of the AfD discussed a ”master plan” for the mass deportation of German asylum-seekers and German citizens of foreign origin during a meeting late last year.
        .
        The gathering of AfD members, neo-Nazis and other far-right extremists took place at a lakeside hotel outside the city of Potsdam on November 25.

        https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/20/europe/germany-protests-far-right-afd-migrant-deportation-plan-intl/index.html

        1. Sevo   1 year ago

          turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Did you really choose an author who equates deportation with genocide?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Of course. All the more to be disingenuous with.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Shrike and sarc seem to be full on false appeals to emotion today. Are they cycling their periods together?

        3. damikesc   1 year ago

          No comments on the Correctiv reporting being laden with "said to have" when discussing the goings on?

      3. Sevo   1 year ago

        turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      4. Ed Grinberg   1 year ago

        See kids? It's easy!
        step 1: Label your political opponents "Nazis."
        step 2: Ban them.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          But don't go too far. See French Revolution, Russian revolution, Cambodian revolution, Chinese revolution...

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          Step 1: Label your political opponents "vermin"
          Step 2: Ban them.

          Now you are catching on as to why it's a bad idea!

          1. damikesc   1 year ago

            ...where is this banishment plan?

            Do you mean deporting illegals?

          2. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

            Vermin in the context of infestation. That's a positive vibe in your place? Have you visited NY?

            The Migrants/Immigrants/Border crossers/ rule breakers are not really 'political opponents' in this context.

            Try again.

            If a bear is in a trunk, and it jumps out and votes against your political beliefs, is that your fault?

      5. Zeb   1 year ago

        Germany is not shy about banning Nazis. If they were anything close to Nazis they would have been banned long ago.

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      has ‘it in our hands to put those who despise democracy back in their place’.

      that's your team, with your revenge fantasies against Team Blue for their supposed subversion of democracy via the courts. that is Trump vowing revenge and retribution against everyone who was mean to him. that is you and your team.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Dude, nice try at deflection, but you can stop with the asinine posturing. There's ample evidence that when a populist movement gets going, the elites try to stop it in its tracks. Those elites being from the left, including the Democrats here in the US. What do you call knocking Republicans off ballots, Jeffy?

        Of course, you seem to only want "Top Men" in charge of everything.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          He calls it defending democracy like all good leftists.

        2. Zeb   1 year ago

          Republican establishment elites hate the populists just as much as Democrats.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Sigh. Progressives and Democrats actually breaking laws and subverting the Constitution is protecting democracy. Republicans who want to prosecute those Democrats is irrational political revenge. Got it.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          Yes yes, more benefit of the doubt. When Trump speaks of 'revenge' and 'retribution', what he REALLY means is 'prosecute'. How incredible that Trump ALWAYS gets the benefit of the doubt. Every fucking time. Not once is Trump to be criticized for the words he actually uses.

          1. damikesc   1 year ago

            He has a four year track record of NOT doing so.

            Biden has a thre e year track record of specifically doing so.

            Cannot figure out why somebody gives Trump the benefit of the doubt here.

          2. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

            So you are worried that Trump might do to the Dems what the Dems are CURRENTLY doing to Trump?

      3. Nobartium   1 year ago

        So far, only one party has tried to remove candidates from ballots.

        I'll give you three guesses as to who tried to ban whom.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          But if Democrats don't know how to do democracy who does?

        2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          It’s for your own good!

      4. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago (edited)

        God you are a fvckin idiot.

        The DEMOCRATS are banning Trump, Jill Stein, RFK Jr, No Labels, Cornel West, etc from the ballot, and moved to Superdelegates should primary challengers upset the establishment. The most anti-democratic force in recent US history.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          They have chosen our democracy for us. Now shut up and get on the train.

      5. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        that’s your team, with your revenge fantasies against Team Blue for their supposed subversion of democracy via the courts.

        LOL, your team is openly banning ballot access and unironically calling for political parties who don't walk the left-liberal line to be suppressed. Don't act shocked when the right decides a soothing knee to the neck is the proper reaction.

      6. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

        He might do what we've been recently doing is not the win you think it is.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      'In their clamour to ban the AfD, the German elites have revealed themselves to be the real threat to German democracy. Perhaps it’s no wonder that so many voters are desperate to find an alternative.'

      And might some of them be tempted to select leaders they otherwise might ignore, because those leaders are fixated on defying the elites?

      Like others have written, Trump is a phenomena induced by progressive elites, not a cause (or justification) for their crusade.

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Again, if the elites weren't so corrupt, a dictator who promises to stop their abuses wouldn't look like such an appealing option.

  33. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

    Pleas don't put the phrase "deepfake porn" in that close proximity to the phrase "deepfake Joe Biden."

    And you thought we were getting deepfake porn! Instead, we’re getting deepfake Joe Biden.

    Now it's in my head.

    1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

      Are you saying you want to FJB?

      1. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

        With pluggo's dick...

        1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

          Damn it. Now that image is in my head.

  34. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

    It does seem the Republicans in the House and Donald Trump want the border as an issue more than they want solutions. So, I like to see Fox News change from Biden Border Crisis to House/Trump Border Crisis just in the interest of accuracy.

    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      You can bet that if Trump is elected, the Biden Border Crisis will go *poof* just like the Bush's Iraq War went *poof* when Obama was elected.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Is this where we pretend we didn't see illegal immigration drop under Trump?

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          Why aren't you praising Biden for continuing Trump's economic policies that you vehemently defended with hateful accusations of derangement and economic ignorance?

          1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

            Why are you deflecting when your idiocy is exposed?

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              White knighting for officer J. Classy.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                White knighting for Officer M4e. Something, something, pot, kettle, something.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Did you know he coined officer J? He is really desperate for it to become a thing lol.

                  Oddly he is the one who supports Capital Capitol Officer murder for trespassing.

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    "PEOPLE SMEARED POOP ON THE WALLS!!!"

                    Honest, Chuck Schumer's aide swears he saw it in the bathroom.

          2. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Because he isnt.

            See Bidens energy policies. His increased regulatory state. His green agenda.

            Are all of your talking points based on pure ignorance?

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              I said economic policies. Maybe I should have been more specific and said trade policies.

              Either way you can't and won't credit Biden for continuing things you defended under Trump because you weren't defending policies, you were defending the man.

              Principals, no principles whatsoever.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                Because retaliatory trade policies to force bad actors to stop being bad actors and become freer actors isnt the same as protectionist trade policy retard.

                We've been over this dozens of times.

                Are you truly this much an alcoholic and short/long term brain damaged you are incapable of learning?

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  So you were defending Trump, not his policies.

                  1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                    Do you think there’s no difference between protectionist tariffs and retaliatory tariffs? Legit question as I can see the argument for one over the other, but understand that some people dislike both.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Do you think there’s no difference between protectionist tariffs and retaliatory tariffs?

                      Different excuses for the same thing.

                      but understand that some people dislike both.

                      Count me into that group. I oppose tariffs because they are the equivalent of a nation imposing an embargo against its own citizens. An embargo is an act of war by the way.

                      On the other hand, if, and that's a HUGE IF, the federal government went back to getting most of its revenue from consumption taxes, then I'd change my tune. As it is the money collected from tariffs is negligible compared to other taxes, which makes it a tool of politics, not a source of revenue.

                    2. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      Sarc, let’s see if you can answer honestly.

                      Tariffs and increased costs from paying for security due to theft (and even theft itself) BOTH increase costs of service and goods, yes or no?

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I'm trying to put dressing on that word salad.

                      Your argument is that IP theft justifies tariffs, is that correct?

                      https://cafehayek.com/2019/07/do-allegations-of-intellectual-property-theft-justify-protective-tariffs.html

                      What he said.

                    4. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      My informed opinion is Chinas government promotes anti free trade behavior to the tune of 100s of billions a year. And a much smaller cost on tariffs got China to agree to crack down on the anti free market actions.

                      https://www.marketwatch.com/story/five-things-to-know-about-chinas-promised-crackdown-on-intellectual-property-theft-2019-11-25

                      The security costs to protect theft from china:

                      https://cybersecurity.att.com/blogs/security-essentials/how-to-justify-your-cybersecurity-budget

                      Billions a year.

                      The tariffs were done due to an act china’s government was not only ignoring but condoning.

                      The costs of theft and security dwarfed the tariff costs and achieved an agreement to reduce anti free market acts.

                      Probably the 5th time ive tried to fix your ignorance.

                    5. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      From sarcs link everyone. Because he didn't actually read it.

                      The first step in stopping such theft should surely be Apple itself bringing suit within China, or otherwise seeking the cooperation of Chinese authorities. If this step fails, the next step should be U.S. government recourse to the WTO. Only if this second step fails should the discussion even begin about other possible actions by Uncle Sam.

                      Both steps 1 and steps 2 have failed. This is a multi decade fight. The writer seems to be ignorant to this. But even in sarcs OWN citation he states step 3 which is what I discuss.

                      Lol.

                    6. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      And since sarc is ignorant. Here you go buddy. Step 2 failed.

                      https://www.cigionline.org/articles/understanding-intellectual-property-disputes-between-china-and-united-states/

                      Imagine actually advocating every company spend millions of dollars to dispute theft in China. That cost would also dwarf the costs of the tariffs. Lol.

                  2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    You get dumber by the response sarc.

        2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

          Yeah, a pandemic and 30 million lost jobs will deter immigration - wreck gas prices to boot.

          Chaulk one up for Fatass Donnie. He did do something after all.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            This is sad watching you, sarc, and Jeff all spiral down to full retard at the same time. You guys should form a retard leftist support group.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              It's sad that you can't praise Biden for continuing policies that you defended with personal attacks while Trump was president.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                Be specific. Which one? No general bald assertion, give a specific example.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  You weren't specific when you were defending Trump with accusations of hatred and derangement. Which is actually quite hilarious considering your deranged hatred for Biden, and your inability to credit him for doing what you so hatefully defended under Trump.

                  No principles at all. Just pure emotion.

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                    Give an actual citation or even an example of either bald assertion. I’ve been very specific when asked.

                    This is hilarious by the way. I'm the only one between us that has cited evidence in any response today child. Lol.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I don't bookmark Reason comments and I'm certainly not digging through them. That's your job.

                    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Give and EXAMPLE. You can't even do that.

            2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

              They already have. Unfortunately, this is their meeting spot.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                Fair.

          2. Sevo   1 year ago

            turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. damikesc   1 year ago

        "You can bet that if Trump is elected, the Biden Border Crisis will go *poof* just like the Bush’s Iraq War went *poof* when Obama was elected."

        ...As did the COVID death count where Biden TRIPLED Trump's number...

        1. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

          You can bet that if trump is elected every fucking judge in this country will rule against any thing he tries to do. Like build a wall or ask about citizenship in the census. You know like in his first term.

          1. Lester75   1 year ago

            How is that going to happen given how many judges his administration appointed?

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Now do abortion.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      It does seem the Republicans in the House and Donald Trump want the border as an issue more than they want solutions.

      Except your solutions suck donkey dick, so why should anyone listen to you?

  35. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Secret Meeting of AfD and neo-Nazis: The Expulsion of Millions of People from Germany
    .
    Deportations could take place in an area in North Africa that offers space for two million people. According to witnesses, Sellner allegedly said that people working for refugees in Germany could also go there.

    https://sarajevotimes.com/secret-meeting-of-afd-and-neo-nazis-the-expulsion-of-millions-of-people-from-germany/

    The Balkanization of Germany is inevitable.

    1. Sevo   1 year ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Um, you must misunderstand the meaning of the term "Balkanization", Pluggo. To balkanize means to divide even further, usually with multiple ethnicites, each going their own way. Wouldn't deporting Muslim immigrants to Germany be the opposite of Balkanization?

      1. Nobartium   1 year ago

        Cheese pizza rots the brain.

        Having a set of talking points without anyone double-checking the meaning of words doesn't help.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

        They will never deport them. They may as well ask for a separate state.

        1. Nobartium   1 year ago

          Because you didn't just use the Nazis (who did successfully expel millions) as an example of it will never happen.

          Never change, child porn spreader.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

            The Fourth Reich will die stillborn at the hands of the liberal globalists.

            Globalization is inevitable. All these Make America/Germany Great Again movements will fail. Even Italy will become the Tunisia of Europe.

            1. Nobartium   1 year ago (edited)

              OMEGALUL: Fourth Reich.

              That’s the EU, you retarded retard.

            2. Sevo   1 year ago

              turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
              turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

            3. damikesc   1 year ago

              Globalization is inevitable as long as the USA is willing to spend the money to make the seas free for shipping.

              Moment we stop and, well, globalization stops and dies.

        2. Sevo   1 year ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago (edited)

      Balkanization is the result of different cultures with different languages and religions and social mores existing in a single state, then self separating and fighting as the state collapses.

      In other words, what the AfD wants to prevent.

      Your track record is indeed impressive. Give us a missive in the sky is green next

  36. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

    Trying to legislate restrictions on migration is like trying to legislate restrictions on drug use. People will just find a way around the restrictions.

    For the most part, people migrate here because they want better opportunities for themselves and their families.

    So if you really wanted to stop them from migrating here, you would take away their opportunities. That means making America an unwelcoming place for migrants. It's not enough just to deny them welfare (that is already the case at least at the federal level). Their opportunities in the market have to be taken away as well.

    But trying to take away their opportunities via legislation is doomed to fail. It has to be a cultural change. The government ultimately cannot stop a willing employer and a willing employee from agreeing to an 'employment contract' even if it is under the table. But on the other hand, if the employer is a xenophobic bigot, then the government won't need to try to police the employer's activities - the employer will naturally refuse to hire those filthy foreigners anyway.

    That is what "Making America Great Again" actually means from an immigration standpoint. Make America into a closed, unwelcoming, insular, bigoted place so that foreigners won't want to come here and even if they do, no one will treat them with dignity. In that way, America will belong to Americans, the way it was meant to be!

    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      They all come here to go on Welfare and vote for Democrats.

      -what Trump defenders really believe

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        They lounge about on welfare, when they aren't stealing jerbs from Real Muricans.

        1. MT-Man   1 year ago

          It's funny you take offense caricatures of immigrants and what people to take or listen to your position but then immediately make the same thing happen in support of your position for what I'm guessing is a rural American?

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            I take offense at unfair caricatures of powerless people who have done nothing wrong.

            I take great joy in mocking stupid people who advocate for ignorant xenophobic bigotry.

            Glad I could clear that up for you.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Yet, you continually conflate legal and illegal immigration.

            2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              "I take offense at unfair caricatures of powerless people who have done nothing wrong."

              Moments earlier...

              "if the employer is a xenophobic bigot, then the government won’t need to try to police the employer’s activities – the employer will naturally refuse to hire those filthy foreigners anyway.
              That is what “Making America Great Again” actually means from an immigration standpoint. Make America into a closed, unwelcoming, insular, bigoted place so that foreigners won’t want to come here and even if they do, no one will treat them with dignity. In that way, America will belong to Americans, the way it was meant to be!"

              Like a living cartoon.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                I'm mocking you and your tribe, yes. That is your goal, as stated above - to "make America great" by making it hostile towards foreigners.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  I’m mocking you and your tribe, yes

                  Just like everything else, you're doing a half-assed job of it.

                2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  "That is your goal, as stated above – to “make America great” by making it hostile towards foreigners."

                  I AM a foreigner, you fucking retard.

                  My brother and sister are immigrants to the US, and I know that you know this because I've told you several times before.

                  But that doesn't fit your conflation narrative so fuck it, right? Idiot paid shill.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        I mean one could educate themselves and see the tens and hundreds of billions spent on illegal immigrants last year.

        Or they could just remain ignorant and strawman with their favorite leftist allies. Meh.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          Is Jesse ever going to consider the cost to liberty of immigration restrictions? Ever? Nah. That is too hard.

        2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          Whining and crying about money spent on immigrants while not saying a single word about Social Security and Medicare (which are what's bankrupting the country) is akin to playing the fiddle while Rome burns.

          1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

            People actually paid money into those programs expecting to be paid back seems rational.

            1. Nobartium   1 year ago

              Worse, expecting the government to have a preference for it's own citizens versus non-citizens.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                Non-citizens don’t receive Social Security or Medicare. They us an ITIN which functions like a SSN for paying payroll taxes, and they don’t get a penny back. It’s pure profit for the government.

                1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

                  That point completely sailed over your head.

                2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  This is the lie leftists promote. But real analysis shows than even the minority, yes minority, of ITIN users game the return with false deductions to get max returns. It doesn't include under the table work which doesn't require an ITIN.

                  But yes. Idiots use a small percentage of illegals to claim all illegals are profitable. Just ignore the costs they bare on infrastructure, schooling, medical, homeless shelters, etc.

                  It is pretty pathetic when you've been given the economic impact in Maine and you're such an ignorant fuck you still deny the impact. Lol.

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    Do you read your own posts?
                    First you declare that I'm wrong because a minority of ITIN users game the system, then accuse me of saying you're wrong about the economic impact of immigrants because a small percentage are profitable.
                    Too funny.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      A minority if illegals even use ITIN dummy. Those that do game the returns.

                      Understand?

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Explain how they "game the returns".

                      Please.

                      Because as far as I know they pay in but get nothing out.

                      Ejumukate me.

                    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      I mean I literally stated above hoe much migrants get out on average.

                      Easy to game. Increase dependencies.

                      https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/irs-overlooks-fraudulent-itin-applications-tigta-finds

                      Have you ever considered educating yourself instead of arguing from ignorance?

          2. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

            I have constantly attacked SS, medicaid, Medicare, welfare, etc. It is easy for me to do so again as I have principles and am against those things. Those should be held as voluntary charities. Meanwhilr you pal with jeff who demands government act if individuals do not voluntarily do so as you migrate to an ignorant leftist due to your hate of Trump and lack of principles.

            See sarc, when you lie about my views it is very easy for me to repeat my views.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Principles? Ok. Praise Biden for continuing Trump's trade policies.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                They don't have the same trade policies dumdum.

                There is some overlap but the general practice is not identical.

                Are you really this ignorant?

            2. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

              Despite you constant lies, I don’t hate Trump and I give credit where credit is due. He cut back on regulations and didn’t start any new wars. Good job Trump.

              Now lets see if you can get over your visceral hatred for Biden and credit him for expanding upon Trump's policies that you defended with personal attacks.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                Wow, that's one comment out of thousands, Sarc, where otherwise your TDS is on full display.

              2. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                Lol. Nobody believes you retard.

                You repeating your economic ignorance isn't an argument.

                If you think Biden and Trump have the exact same policies you truly are fucking retarded. And I criticized Trumps policies often where I disagreed. He wasn't perfect retard. Nobody here has ever claimed he was. Just your delusional alcoholic brain has made that inference.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  And I criticized Trumps policies often where I disagreed.

                  And you call me a liar? Hilarious.

                2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  If you think Biden and Trump have the exact same policies

                  Look at the strawman! I never said "exact" you liar. Biden has most definitely continued and expanded upon Trump's tariffs. The ones you so hatefully defended. Why aren't you defending them now with accusations of irrationally hating Biden and being deranged?

                  Because you have no principles. None. Zero. Zippo. Nada.

                  1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                    I may be wrong, but through all of the posts on tariffs, it seems that Jesse is saying that the policies are different, even if you think the outcomes are the same. Which is logically consistent if you think there is a difference between retaliatory and protectionist tariffs.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                      How are they different? What changed other than the guy in the White House?

                      My point is that the guy who attacked critics of Trump’s policies with accusations of hatred and derangement is himself full of deranged hatred for the president who continued Trump’s policies.
                      He’s no different than the war protesters who evaporated when Obama was elected.

                      edit: Ironic that someone who fervently hates leftists behaves exactly like one.

                    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Sarc: Look at the strawman! I never said “exact” you liar.

                      Also sarc: How are they different? What changed other than the guy in the White House?

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Look at all the outrage from JesseAz at libertarians who criticize Biden's tariff policies. It's right next to the outrage from leftists against Obama's war policies.

                    4. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Sarc retreats to a nonsensical non sequitur after being shown to be a fucking hypocrite. Lol.

                  2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    Now lets see if you can get over your visceral hatred for Biden and credit him for expanding upon Trump’s policies that you defended with personal attacks.

                    You've said this variation 3 times. I asked for a specific instance above and you didnt give one.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      You aren't specific when you attack anyone critical of Trump's policies with accusations of TDS.

                    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Cite? I say you have TDS because you'll attack him for everything and claim he is equivalent to Hitler. Lol.

                      You brought him up in a food article here dumbass. Youre obsessed. You talk about him more than anybody else here.

            3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              I have constantly attacked SS, medicaid, Medicare, welfare, etc.

              You spend approximately 0.01% of the time criticizing entitlements for natural-born citizens as you do criticizing ANY spending on illegal immigrants.

              We all understand what really motivates you here. The amount of public money consumed by illegal immigrants is MINISCULE compared to the amount consumed by native-born citizens. But that MINISCULE amount generates disproportionate rage and anger. It's not because of the dollar amount. It's because you are irrationally angry that they are getting any benefits at all no matter how minor.

              1. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

                Illegal aliens do not belong in my country.

              2. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                The amount of public money consumed by illegal immigrants is MINISCULE compared to the amount consumed by native-born citizens.

                Yup. Fiddling while Rome burns.

                It’s because you are irrationally angry that they are getting any benefits at all no matter how minor.

                "They" are vermin that are poisoning the blood of the nation. They're not even human. Just cut them out like cancer.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                  Wow, you two really are ignorant. Hey there are 350M Americans who spend more than 20M illegal immigrants, therefore it is fine to spend hundreds of billions on the latter!!!!!

                  What fucking idiots you two are.

                  And for the 50th time for you two retards. Who keep remaining intentionally ignorant.

                  The average household headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) costs taxpayers $6,234 in federal welfare benefits, which is 41 percent higher than the $4,431 received by the average native household.

                  https://cis.org/Report/Cost-Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    So you're not going to argue against them being subhumans to be cut out like cancer. Or, to put it another way, mass murder is honky-dory.
                    Wow. A brief moment of honesty.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      See the appeal to emotion you and Jeff are claiming I’m using below? Lol.

                      Where did I dehumanize them?

                      What does your non sequitur have to do with you and Jeff lying about their costs? For the 50th time.

                      Do you think WaPo was committing mass murder against conservatives for calling them vermin? Or do you save that only for Trump?

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      How does the cost of immigrants compare to Social Security and Medicare?

                      I'll give you a clue. It doesn't.

                      So why do you continue to call immigrants vermin that are poisoning the blood of the nation, without a peep about what's bankrupting the nation?

                      The answer is pretty obvious.

                    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Full retard achieved sarc. Good work.

                  2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                    The average household headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) costs taxpayers $6,234 in federal welfare benefits, which is 41 percent higher than the $4,431 received by the average native household.

                    This is an example of a deceptive use of statistics. To compare directly the average immigrant household to the average native-born household is an apples-to-oranges comparison. Because native-born households tend to be richer, better educated, and have fewer children, then immigrant households. Therefore, if one wants to make a *fair* apples-to-apples comparison, one would control for these variables.

                    But you don't want a fair comparison, and neither does CIS. They just want to present a number in the headline that blares "immigrants are moochers!!!" backed by a veneer of math.

                    If you actually dig into their own numbers and look at comparisons between households of comparable demographics, the two are about the same. Immigrants consume a little bit less here and there, actually.

                    Also note that these statistics conflate legal and illegal immigration. I thought you were opposed to such a thing. Oh, I guess not, if the result helps you make your anti-immigrant case.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Figures don't lie, but liars do figure.

              3. DesigNate   1 year ago

                I’m just spit balling, but it may have something to do with the fact that the immigration to ss/medicare posts are about 1000:1. It might also have to do with the fact that while either side may not consider the other libertarians, we all basically agree on doing away/scaling back those programs so there’s no reason to discuss it in every thread.

          3. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

            That logic really means you do not do any saving at all, even where you have the political will to accomplish some.

      3. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

        You should read the Boston Globe circa 1982. ME must have that paper at the local library on microfiche. History can be enlightening.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      There you go again, Jeffy, lying your ass off as you conflate legal and illegal immigration.

      1. defaultdotxbe   1 year ago

        When supply can't keep up with demand a black market develops.

      2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        "Lying your ass off as you conflate legal and illegal immigration."

        Conflation is the only way they can make their stance seem moral.

    3. Nobartium   1 year ago

      Even if true: And?

      Insular cultures are no more or less libertarian than open ones.

    4. Randy Sax   1 year ago

      "That means making America an unwelcoming place for migrants. It’s not enough just to deny them welfare (that is already the case at least at the federal level)."

      Wrong. It is enough to deny them welfare. It is not the case at the federal level. Where do you think the money for all the NY shelters comes from?

      "That is what “Making America Great Again” actually means from an immigration standpoint."

      Wrong again. People don't want the Government spending their money on the migrants. That IS the long and short of it.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        Wrong. It is enough to deny them welfare.

        Is it? Then why is it illegal for a private employer to hire an undocumented immigrant? That is not welfare.

        1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

          Because the Dems want them on welfare. The illegals should absolutely be able to work IMO.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            Because the Dems want them on welfare.

            lol - the prohibition of private employers hiring undocumented immigrants was due to Reagan in 1986. the idea was to take away their job prospects, as I said.

            1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

              Then why haven't they changed the law in the last ~40 years?

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                Because that's the way they want it - domestic jobs only for legal residents. They want the undocumented migrants to turn around and go home once they realize they can't get a legal job here.

                But of course this doesn't prohibit entrepreneurial activity. So lots of undocumented migrants instead form their own businesses.

                I am sure that is next on the list to make illegal for the undocumented.

                1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

                  Dems have had plenty of opportunity to change the law. They don't want prosperous immigrants. They want dependents they can exploit.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                    Both Republicans and Democrats would rather have the issue of immigration than actually doing something meaningful to solve the problem, because they use the issue to fire up emotions and drive voters to the polls. That part is true.

                2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                  Who is the they in this post?

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                    Congress.

            2. DesigNate   1 year ago

              Is that the act that Regan agreed to sign on the assurance that Congress would actually get serious about border security and amnestied the immigrants that were here, thus allowing them to work and live, but then Congress never held up their end of the deal?

              1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

                Yes.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

        Story out of Chicago where the mayor pleads to stop sending less than 1% of illegals to Chicago because they can’t build shelters quickly enough and it would bankrupt the city.

        Jeff and sarc rely on intention ignorance and appeals to emotion.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          intention ignorance and appeals to emotion

          That is you and your team, Jesse.

          You continually repeat arguments and statistics that we have shown to be flawed and deceptive. You remain intentionally ignorant of the glaring flaws in the arguments that you make.

          And remind us again, who was it who declared that illegal immigrants are "poisoning the blood of the nation"? I do believe that is an appeal to emotion, a deliberately inflammatory way to describe illegal immigrants so as to provoke a reaction of hatred and loathing.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            I do believe that is an appeal to emotion, a deliberately inflammatory way to describe illegal immigrants so as to provoke a reaction of hatred and loathing.

            I'm trying to think of something Trump that isn't an appeal to emotion. Everything from the "stolen" election lie justifying criminal acts by saying Democrats did it first is an appeal to emotion. The fact that Trump defenders are incapable of praising Biden for continuing the trade policies they so angrily defended with personal attacks is proof that they are governed by their emotions and have no principles whatsoever.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              insert "to" between "lie" and "justifying"

            2. JesseAz   1 year ago

              You two and your projecting lol.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                Says the guy who defended Trump's tariffs with accusations of being deranged and full of hate, who now says "Fuck Joe Biden" like Catholics say Hail Mary, and absolutely refuses to defend Biden for continuing Trump's tariffs.
                All you've got is hate. That's it. Hatred and lies. That's all you are.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Find me one time saying that sarc.

                  I also can't help that you're an idiot and can't understand deltas between economic policies.

          2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

            "we have shown to be flawed and deceptive"

            "who was it who declared that illegal immigrants are “poisoning the blood of the nation”?"

            Seems like you just turned from "we have the numbers" to "TRUMP IS HITLER!" on a dime. Which of course is the classic cable news playbook. You dont have the stats to back up anything, therefore "MEAN TWEETS!! ORANGE MAN BAD!!"

            When you have a better argument than "look! squirrel!" come back and see us

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              While accusing others of appeals to emotion.

              It is fucking amazing watching them clown themselves.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              I didn't say "TRUMP IS HITLER". I have been very careful not to make such a hyperbolic claim. Trump is not nearly as smart nor as murderous as Hitler.

              I do say that Trump is using the Hitler style guide when writing his speeches, whether he knows it or not, whether he wants to admit it or not.

              You are the one claiming THEY THINK TRUMP IS HITLER as not just a lie, but as a further appeal to emotion: to get your side worked up by such an inflammatory false accusation.

              sarc is right: what is Trump's appeal OTHER than just a raw appeal to emotion?

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                Trump is not nearly as smart nor as murderous as Hitler.

                That made me laugh out loud.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  Well, it's true. The people who actually do think "Trump is Hitler!" are wrong because Trump is just dumber than Hitler. Hitler was shrewd and cunning and knew exactly what he wanted to do. Trump just bumbles into things led by his huge ego and his demand for loyalty.

                  One would never mistake a Hitler speech for a Trump speech, because a Hitler speech is simply better written.

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    That and the murderous part. As much as ML and others would like to see Trump commit mass murder, it's not going to happen.

              2. Zeb   1 year ago

                Trump's appeal is that both parties' establishments have given up on working class populism. There's a lot of truth to the observation that Trump is a lot like a Democrat from the 80s.

                1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                  Because he IS a Democrat from the 80’s.

                  It’s just that the party has gone so far off the left end of the pool he looks conservative by comparison. (Note also that the Republican Party base has also shifted to be more 80’s Democrat as the party abandoned them.)

              3. Nobartium   1 year ago

                Nationalistic policies.

                Obviously.

    5. Zeb   1 year ago

      People will find ways around restrictions. But they also respond to incentives. Even just forcing people making asylum claims to wait in Mexico for their claims to be reviewed would probably cut down on the numbers making the trip to the border quite a bit.

    6. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Trying to legislate restrictions on migration is like trying to legislate restrictions on drug use. People will just find a way around the restrictions.

      Except immigration did drop in the 1920s with the hyper-restrictive laws in place.

      You're basically arguing the anarchist position that no laws should be in place at all, because they aren't 100% followed at all times.

  37. Sevo   1 year ago

    "Judge orders the unsealing of divorce case of Trump special prosecutor in Georgia accused of affair"
    [...]
    "The judge ordered the unsealing of the divorce case involving special prosecutor Nathan Wade after a request brought by a defense attorney who alleges an inappropriate relationship between Willis and Wade. The judge also put off a final decision on whether Willis will have to sit for questioning in the divorce case, but delayed her deposition that had been scheduled for Tuesday..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/crime/judge-orders-unsealing-of-divorce-case-involving-georgia-special-prosecutor-accused-of-affair/ar-BB1h5he1

  38. Sevo   1 year ago

    JP Morgen CEO points out that Trump was a very good POTUS, warns TDS-addled shits:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I-S0IJOINI

    1. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

      He was, relatively speaking, a very good president. He was so much better than I expected him to be. Meantweets notwithstanding...

  39. CLM1227   1 year ago

    Any immigration bill will be designed to fail because neither party apparatus wants immigration fixed. Illegal immigration is what they want - a permanent underclass to exploit. It’s why amnesty will never accompany border control. And amnesty without border control will result in serious political fallout. So, look like you are doing something and blame the other side for failure.

    1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

      And a nonvoting class that pumps up census numbers in urban areas for redistricting purposes.

  40. Randy Sax   1 year ago

    Here is an issue where the GOP is absolutely incorrect.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/pawn-stars-rick-harrison-blames-border-crisis-for-sons-overdose-death-we-need-to-do-better

    Most illegal drugs are smuggled by US citizens at official border crossings. Not migrants.

    https://www.cato.org/blog/fentanyl-smuggled-us-citizens-us-citizens-not-asylum-seekers

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      His kid died because he was an idiot.

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

      Right? We should be allowing Afghani farmers to openly ship pure, graded heroin here, to be distributed through legitimate channels. Best way to cut down on fentanyl overdoses.

      1. DesigNate   1 year ago

        Can’t tell if sarcastic or real.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          Real. Sorry, I know, Poe's Law, but I do usually specify when I'm being sarcastic.

  41. NOYB2   1 year ago

    On the other, parole "serves an array of humanitarian purposes, including allowing foreign nationals without visas access to emergency or specialized medical care; allowing beneficiaries of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and green card applicants to travel internationally; or allowing undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens to regularize their status," notes The Hill.

    Let's explicitly abolish parole for all these cases.

    If you want to come to the US, do so legally and with a visa, period.

    1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

      How many humanitarian problems does it cause? Like where to house these people?

  42. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>A deal is emerging in the Senate, supported by both Republicans and Democrats, that would reduce the number of migrants granted asylum and beef up immigration enforcement.

    this is fucking criminal.

  43. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>All signs are pointing toward a big Donald Trump win over Nikki Haley in New Hampshire tonight.

    did nobody tell Eric?

  44. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>A bunch of marching Nazis bumping into one another as they try to figure out Metrocards on their way back to Hoboken is a Mel Brooks scene

    feds aren't exempt from Metrocard?

  45. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Israel and Hamas are fighting in Khan Younis ... Ambulances are struggling to reach the injured, and hospitals are not equipped to save those who have been wounded.

    Find Out, Level 8

    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      "hospitals are not equipped"

      Ah, finally ran out of gas for the generators I guess

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        is Gazannukah finally over?

        1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

          Eight(y) crazy nights

  46. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Kayak.com now has a flight filter that allows travelers to exclude certain aircraft models from their search results

    love it. when they have a flight filter allowing me to exclude certain aircraft pilots I can return fully to safe thoughts about commercial flights

  47. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

    https://groups.google.com/g/Talk.Politics.Guns/c/7ObR5rPvu5I/m/1wfwsEhrBAAJ

    Opinion: The absurdity of the return-to-office movement
    Opinion by Peter Bergen
    4 minute read
    Updated 12:27 PM EST, Mon January 22, 2024

    Editor’s Note: Peter Bergen is CNN’s national security analyst, a vice
    president at New America, a professor of practice at Arizona State
    University, the host of the Audible podcast “In the Room” also on Apple
    and Spotify and was the founding editor of the Coronavirus Daily Brief.
    The opinions expressed in this commentary are his own. View more opinion
    at CNN.

    CNN
    —
    I host a podcast, “In the Room with Peter Bergen,” which focuses on
    national security issues. Every day, I see the merits of being part of
    an entirely remote workforce.

    We have a production team, around half of whom live in Brooklyn and
    Manhattan, and the others live in places like Chicago, Mexico City and
    San Francisco. We have met in person only twice in the year that the
    production has been up and running, and we have put out dozens of highly
    produced episodes, often featuring multiple guests, which go through
    many rounds of edits.

    In my four decades of working in media, I have never worked somewhere
    with a better esprit de corps, creative energy and a collective
    willingness to help everyone else out.

    And yet, some corporate titans are still pushing for their employees to
    return to their offices. Banks like Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase and
    tech giants like Meta are demanding that their staff be back at the
    office several days a week.

    Those return-to-office demands are often couched in non-falsifiable
    claims about the necessity of having chance encounters at the office
    where folks bounce creative, productive ideas off of each other.

    Typical of this view is JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon, who claimed in 2021
    that working from home “doesn’t work for spontaneous idea generation.”
    There is no empirical evidence for this claim, and the desire for
    employers to see their employees working in their offices seems to be
    more about the need for control and an attachment to the old ways of
    doing things.

    The return-to-office demands also make little sense from an overall
    economic perspective at a time when a third of Americans who can do
    their job remotely now only work from home, up from only 7% before
    Covid, according to the Pew Research Center, yet the economy is very
    strong in terms of low unemployment and GDP growth. If working from home
    suppressed innovation, productivity and creativity, you would expect
    quite different economic results.

    Further, working from home saves Americans an average daily commute of
    72 minutes a day, to say nothing about the reduced pollution and energy
    consumption that comes from fewer commuters, according to a 2023
    University of Chicago study.

    Working parents, in particular, benefit from not having to waste time,
    money and flexibility commuting to an office. A 2023 Bankrate survey
    found that 74% of working women with children are in favor of remote
    work, while 64% of all working Americans support it.

    I have some insight into this as a parent who now works mostly from
    home. This arrangement gives me a lot more time to spend with my kids,
    and if there is any kind of unforeseen emergency, I can be there for
    them in a way that, during the era of the office, I couldn’t be.

    The internet and cell phones obviate so much of what was once done at
    the office, which is, after all, largely an artifact of the 20th century
    thanks to the rise of mass transportation, the ability to build tall
    office buildings and the previous immovability of the “work” telephone,
    which was stuck to a desk. All this, thankfully, is going the way of the
    dodo.

    During the office era, so many workers spent so much time at their desks
    that workplaces often tried to present themselves as some kind of
    alternative family. You had your “work husbands” and mandatory “team
    building” events. Of course, this all came at the expense of your loved
    ones at home, as you had to spend time away from them while doing all
    your office-based events and tasks.

    I am writing this column in Washington, DC, but work with editors in New
    York, London or Atlanta. In fact, I have written several hundred of
    these columns over the past dozen years and I have never met most of the
    editors I work with, and yet I still have a warm, productive
    relationship with them.

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    To be sure, a Starbucks cappuccino is not going to make itself, and
    certain kinds of work environments — such as hospitals, restaurants,
    film sets or government offices where classified material is handled in
    a secure environment — require employees to be in person.

    But for much of the economy where work doesn’t need to be in person, the
    demand to “return to office” is not rooted in any concern for employees,
    a large majority of whom want to work from home — not because they are
    lazy or don’t want to be productive, but because it gives them more
    freedom and control over their own lives.

    So why do some bosses still feel it necessary to prolong the slow and
    necessary death of The Office? Beats me.

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      >>JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon

      agree with T, incur wrath of Peter Bergen.

      1. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

        Dimon claimed the existence of "spontaneous idea generation", without any empirical evidence.

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          ya he also said "T was right!" @Davos last week and now wears a target

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago (edited)

      I mean… OK?

      If that’s so, then the places that insist on Return To Office policy will lose out to places that don’t have one, and take advantage of this “dynamic environment”. And if it’s not true, a bunch of startups will collapse and the old players will stay in business. But like… so what? It’s certainly nothing that the government should stick its dick in.

    3. mamabug   1 year ago

      Because many of them are stuck paying leases or owning buildings and the lack of people in them is seen as a cost.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Typical urbanite bugman advocating for increased social atomization.

  48. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

    https://groups.google.com/g/Talk.Politics.Guns/c/JPTPpFDzI_c

    Empirical Root Cause Analysis for Human Error
    Because people often can’t remember what they forgot
    PUBLISHED: MONDAY, JANUARY 22, 2024 - 12:03

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    Aroot cause analysis (RCA) should be empirical; however, this can be
    difficult when dealing with human error. A typical human failure is a
    missed operation, such as when a process step isn’t carried out. This
    could mean a part wasn’t installed, a bolt wasn’t tightened, or a server
    didn’t deliver a food item that had been ordered.

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    The simplest answer in such a situation is “the employee forgot.”
    Perhaps, but there’s often more to the situation than simple
    forgetting—and forgetting isn’t so easy to evaluate empirically. We
    can’t ask somebody who assembles hundreds of parts a day, “Did you
    forget to tighten a bolt four months ago?” We have only the evidence, in
    the form of an untightened bolt, and the untestable hypothesis,
    “employee forgot.” Fixating on the untestable hypothesis does little to
    identify the cause of the problem so that adequate corrective actions
    can be implemented. This is the point in supplier quality where the
    supplier often submits an 8D report listing both the root cause,
    “employee forgot,” and the corrective action, “employee retrained.” Such
    actions do little to prevent a reoccurrence of the failure.

    Instead, it’s better to look at the entire system that led to the
    failure. W. Edwards Deming tells us that 85% of all problems are due to
    the system and solvable by management only, and 15% of problems are due
    to employees. Somebody may have forgotten, but how was it possible for
    one act of forgetting to cause the problem? Is there any way to reduce
    the chance of somebody forgetting in the future?

    Investigating to identify the weak points in the process is the first
    step. Here, a flowchart of the process may be helpful. This flowchart
    shouldn’t be created in a meeting room based on knowledge of the
    process; the process should be followed and mapped to see how it truly
    operates. The objective is to identify improvement areas that can
    prevent the failure from happening again as well as to prevent the
    failure from escaping if it does occur. This second point is especially
    important when the only line of defense against an occurrence is hoping
    nobody forgets.

    Every organization has different processes, so the actual actions to
    take will vary. Figure 1 shows a generic Ishikawa diagram for a missed
    operation, with various items to consider when dealing with such a problem.

    Figure 1: Ishikawa diagram for a missed operation

    People
    A person may have made a mistake, but there could be contributing
    factors that need to be addressed by the organization’s management.
    Could fatigue have contributed to the failure? If so, there may not be
    sufficient break time, or breaks may be long enough but too infrequent.
    This is especially important if the operation requires intensive
    concentration for long periods of time.

    Is the person even capable of correctly performing the operation? More
    mistakes could happen if an inexperienced person was never shown how to
    perform the operation, or a person was placed in the job without any
    training in how to perform the task. If one person was untrained, then
    there may be many more. So formal employee training and training
    tracking should be instituted.

    Method
    Ensure that procedures or work instructions are up to date and available
    at the place of work. Also, make sure they are written in a way the
    operator can understand. Technical instructions written at a graduate
    school level might not be understandable to a production operator. Be
    sure to determine whether the operator is capable of reading the
    language used for the work instructions. If not, update the instructions
    to be more graphic or translate them into the appropriate language.

    Are part counters available? If so, were they turned on? If not, perhaps
    a part counter should be installed. Is there a check to ensure that
    there are no unused parts left after the operation is completed? This is
    an indication that there is a part from the last order still around. One
    simple solution is to ensure that only parts used for the current order
    are on the work surface.

    Machine
    Is there a poka-yoke system in place to ensure the machine automatically
    stops when a process step is missed? Poka-yoke can remove the need to
    depend on people not forgetting. Was a poka-yoke in place but turned off
    or removed? One organization received customer complaints due to mixed
    parts. The subsupplier that produced the parts kept reporting that there
    was nothing more they could do because a divider was in place, and
    production employees still mixed up parts. The root cause was clear
    after a visit to the subsupplier’s production floor: All dividers had
    been removed. During previous complaints, the supplier had not thought
    to actually check to ensure that the dividers were still being used. The
    problem was blamed on employees, but a simple solution was available.

    An operation may be stopped in the middle for an operator to collect the
    correct tool. Stopping an operation in the middle and a simple “don’t
    stop till finished” procedure would be insufficient if the operation
    can’t continue until the required tool is available. In such a
    situation, all required tools and equipment should be made available in
    the work area.

    Environment
    Lighting for people isn’t a typical item on an Ishikawa diagram, but it
    should still be considered. It would be difficult to correctly complete
    many detailed operations with insufficient lighting, so this is an item
    that should be checked.

    Are there loud sounds in the work area? Some people might not be able to
    concentrate with the constant thump of a machine, so noise mitigation
    efforts or hearing protection may be needed to help employees
    concentrate in a loud work area.

    Are co-workers interrupting the operator? A machine operator who needs
    to frequently stop to assist others might not restart an operation at
    the correct step. If interruptions are unavoidable, it may be necessary
    to implement a policy requiring the current operation to be completed
    before stopping to respond to the interruption.

    The temperature in the work area should also be considered. Heating or
    cooling may be necessary; it can be difficult to perform tasks requiring
    fine motor skills in a very cold environment, or it could be difficult
    to maintain concentration in an overly hot room.

    Employees might also forget to install a part if they are working in a
    cluttered work area. Parts from various work orders may get mixed up,
    making it difficult to notice if there is an extra part left over after
    an operation. Implementing 5S may be helpful. The work area should be
    sorted to remove unneeded items, straightened to ensure things are
    stored in an orderly manner, scrubbed to clean the work area, and
    standardized. Self-discipline should be used together with the
    assistance of a regular cleaning schedule to make sure the work area
    stays clean and orderly.

    Measurement
    Is there sufficient time to complete the operation? Assembly personnel
    might be expected to move quickly, but is the takt time for the
    operation too short for the operation to be correctly completed?

    Material
    Was the part delivered to the work area? The employee might have missed
    the operation because the part was never there in the first place. In
    such a situation, there’s the failure of “part not delivered” in
    addition to somebody forgetting. Here, the failures should be
    investigated to ensure that proper corrective action is implemented.

    People make mistakes, but...
    People do make mistakes. But often the process or organization
    contributes to the mistake happening. Reminding an employee to “stop
    forgetting” isn’t a sufficient corrective action. The organization must
    investigate the underlying factors that helped to contribute to the
    failure; otherwise, another employee can be expected to make the same
    mistake. Wherever possible, poka-yoke should also be implemented to
    ensure that failures can’t happen. Such actions are far more effective
    that telling people to remember to stop forgetting.

    Originally presented at the IAQ Quality Forum in Bled, Slovenia.

  49. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

    https://groups.google.com/g/Talk.Politics.Guns/c/j0M_rPI3qJg/m/6ATmKJ9rBAAJ

    Counseling Psychology Targets Students with Social Justice Ideology

    It’s rare for an academic to undermine her own discipline and to mimic
    the old Soviet Union’s attitude toward social science, but that’s
    exactly what Prof. Lisa Spanierman does in the following article.

    In this piece, she harnesses psychology to her “social justice” agenda
    and calls for application of psych-manipulation of students to achieve
    political goals.

    Dr. Spanierman, a faculty member in the psychology department of Arizona
    State University, calls for the use of psychological manipulation in the
    college classroom to induce a sense of guilt in white students about
    events in which they played no personal role or even peripheral role.
    The only connection between these students and the events they are
    exposed to is their skin color.

    In this instance, she suggests that “white guilt” can be generated to
    manipulate students into working for the social causes she believes
    salutary.

    Dr. Spanierman’s work is typical of the political infiltration and
    subsequent degradation of the subfield of psychology called “counseling
    psychology.” Unfortunately, her influence is significant. She is
    professor of counseling and counseling psychology and associate dean for
    academic personnel and faculty success in the College of Integrative
    Sciences and Arts at Arizona State.

    More of these “scholar practitioners” are exposed in BRUTAL MINDS.
    Hyperbole? Judge for yourself.

    1. Z Crazy   1 year ago

      I read this.

      It's outrageous.

      Can you imagine inducing black guilt for crime in the ghetto? Or raping white girls?

    2. DesigNate   1 year ago

      “that “white guilt” can be generated to manipulate students into working for the social causes she believes salutary.”

      So CRT is happening, and it’s a good thing?

      (Also, does she not understand that it will also manipulate students into the opposite?)

  50. EdG   1 year ago

    OMG!! Workers are buying into Inflation Hysteria® and wanting raises to compensate for all they've lost thanks to Bidenflation!!

  51. TJJ2000   1 year ago

    The very problem in using gov-guns for pay. Why don't those teachers go ask their customers for a pay-raise?? 'Gun' mobs do not ensure fair or peaceful markets.

  52. Agammamon   1 year ago

    >More proof that whenever both parties agree on something, the resulting policy tends to be suboptimal from a libertarian standpoint.

    The other option is 'money for Ukraine *and no border security at all*.

    So . . . sounds like this is the closest to liberarian that we'll get.

    1. mad.casual   1 year ago

      I can remember a proposal to secure the border and/or limit immigration in exchange for defense spending cuts (or limit the rate of increase or whatever it's come to mean over the last 8+ administrations)... from a Republican no less.

  53. Agammamon   1 year ago

    >sometimes ushering in whole groups of migrants under the authority."

    I think you mean 'all the time'.

  54. Agammamon   1 year ago

    >On the other, parole "serves an array of humanitarian purposes, including allowing foreign nationals without visas access to emergency or specialized medical care; allowing beneficiaries of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and green card applicants to travel internationally; or allowing undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens to regularize their status," notes The Hill.

    1. Why isn't Mexico doing this? Why is Mexico never criticized for the lack of support it shows for immigrants in into its country? These people didn't teleport into San Antonio.

    2. If these people need 'humanitarian support' - well, they're safe in Mexico now. They reached a safe country.

  55. Agammamon   1 year ago

    > They also tend to favor axing group-based parole programs (the Biden administration has, for example, allowed many Afghans to come here following the U.S. pullout there in August 2021) and policies that force detained migrants to stay in facilities on the Mexican, not U.S., side of the border.

    1. Yes. Because there's no vetting of the Afghans. We're not getting all former translators and drag queens fleeing the country, after all.

    2. No one is forced to stay in Mexico. The policy prevents anyone from staying in the US - doesn't force them to stay in Mexico. That's a choice they make because its the path of least resistance for them. They could head back south. They could fly to Canada. They could do any number of things.

  56. Agammamon   1 year ago

    >even though said carmakers are worried about how to make a pivot to electric vehicles

    This part has already been solved for them - no one wants the POS' and so they're going to stop making them.

  57. Agammamon   1 year ago

    >A bunch of marching Nazis bumping into one another as they try to figure out Metrocards on their way back to Hoboken is a Mel Brooks scene

    Everyone's confused - no real New Yorker uses a Metro card. They just jump the rails. The stiles haven't worked for a decade, no one noticed until now.

  58. Agammamon   1 year ago

    >and also somewhat attributable to neuroses being indulged and fostered during the COVID era, during which virtue was made out of being a shut-in.

    This is bubble living, people. The reality is 85% of the country only locked down for, like, a month. Then we all went back to work. Only crazy places like New York and the biggest blue cities tried to wall everyone in for a year.

    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

      There were an awful lot of pickups and dropoffs in flyover country that made me wear a stupid fucking mask while I was tarping a load on my flatbed while I was 13 feet off the ground and separated by 20 feet from the next truck over. I wish it had just been NYC.

  59. Agammamon   1 year ago

    >And you thought we were getting deepfake porn! Instead, we're getting deepfake Joe Biden.

    Q: How do you know its deepfake?

    A: Biden's talking coherently.

    1. mad.casual   1 year ago (edited)

      Yeah, really abusing the “deep” portion of “deepfake” in several dimensions when it’s just the imitation of probably one of the top 5 most robotic voices you know.

  60. Agammamon   1 year ago

    >Reminds me of AOC at the Met Gala:

    ooo! *SNAP!* meeeoooow.

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      she did kill the dress.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        I'd bang her, but only as part of a spitroast so she couldn't talk.

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          it's the only way.

  61. CE   1 year ago

    "[Cal State] University leaders said the system already spends 75 percent of its operating budget on staff compensation and cannot afford to increase salaries at that level,"

    Unless maybe they started to get rid of the bloated staff positions and funnel more funds to instructors.

  62. CE   1 year ago

    Rejecting Davos was easy, when I wasn't invited.
    Now I'm in the cool kids club!

  63. mad.casual   1 year ago (edited)

    “The introverts have taken over the U.S. economy” announces a headline over at Bloomberg. “During the pandemic, a lot of Americans had to stay home—and many discovered that they preferred staying in to going out.”

    LOL. Libertarians Introverts – Plotting to take over the world and leave you alone.

    I would theorize that the “takeover” is probably somewhat attributable to…

    Blameshifting by shallow, extroverted, egomaniacal drama queens trying to fuck everyone over?

  64. ElvisP   1 year ago

    So what will happen? Dems and swamp Repubs will get billions for Ukraine and none of the new immigration restrictions will be enforced. Why should they - there are already laws on the books not being enforced and no one has gone to jail or been impeached.

  65. Lester75   1 year ago

    Republicans do not want any deals with Dems to fix border crisis. The border crisis is a great tool for electing Trump. If possible they would make it worse. No deal will occur and Fox News will explain why it's not the Repubs fault.

    1. TJJ2000   1 year ago

      Yeah ... Gosh... It's not as if Dems fix for "the border crisis" wasn't just to open up the border for a massive invasion or anything. /s As-if that exact thing isn't playing out in Texas right now.

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