20 Percent of Welfare Spending Goes to the Households Taxed To Fund It
It's not robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's more like robbing Peter to pay Peter.

About one in every five dollars that passes through the federal welfare system ends up right back where it started, according to a new report.
It's not robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's more like "robbing Peter to pay Peter," wrote the report's author, Judge Glock, director of research at the Manhattan Institute.
As the federal welfare state has grown to a point where many middle-class and even some upper-income households receive benefits, it has become more common for the same households to both pay federal taxes and collect federal transfer payments. Glock's paper shows how significant that overlap is: About 20 percent of the annual funds in the federal welfare system are simply returned to households that paid that amount in federal taxes.
And if you don't count households that are receiving Social Security—the largest federal welfare program, even though it is rarely identified as such—the percentage of welfare payments canceled out by taxes within the same year is 29 percent, Glock's research shows.
Seems like those individuals and families would be better off simply not paying so much in taxes in the first place.
"Such a system of taxing and returning the same amount of money is a pure waste," Glock wrote, "since both the taxes and transfers limit households' options, and there is a bureaucratic cost to circulating income from households to the government and back to households."
Economically, those transfers and taxes simply cancel each other out and households are left—on a balance sheet, at least—no worse off than if the money had never been taken by the government and then returned.
Glock argues that perspective is missing some important, but often overlooked, details. Dollars returned in the form of welfare transfers are often restricted—food stamps can only be used for certain purchases, for example—in ways that dollars never taxed away from someone's paycheck aren't. Or the funds might only be available at certain times of the year, as is the case with welfare delivered via refundable tax credits. There's also the cost of cycling that money through the system: paying for the IRS to collect it and various bureaucrats in other places to oversee its return.
Because of the size of the federal welfare state, that 20 percent represents a huge amount of money being returned to the same households that paid it. In 2022, those so-called netting taxes would have been equal to about $800 billion, or 3 percent of gross domestic product, Gluck calculated.
This relationship between federal taxes and the federal welfare state has little relevance for the most recent effort to expand the welfare state. Congress is currently working on a plan to expand the child tax credit program to make it fully refundable for low-income parents who do not qualify for the full amount of the tax credit under current law.
As it currently stands, a single mother with three kids who earns $10,000 annually gets a refundable tax credit (which is really a transfer payment) of $1,250 while a mother with three kids who earns $150,000 can qualify for a $6,000 tax credit, as The Washington Post noted. The proposed change wouldn't affect the wealthier parent, but would allow the poorer mother to collect $3,750 instead.
The mother earning only $10,000 is unlikely to owe any federal income taxes, so increasing transfer payments to her doesn't increase the amount of "netted" taxes. However, the wealthier mother is a good example of Glock's point in a different context. When the per-child tax credit was temporarily expanded to $3,000 per child during the pandemic, even for families earning six figures, those extra payments were delivered in the form of checks. In many cases, the federal government was simply returning funds that those same families paid in taxes throughout the year.
The same is likely to be true of any other expansion of welfare programs to middle- and upper-income households.
"A large welfare state inevitably ends up taking from the same people it supports," Glock tells Reason, "and the larger the welfare state gets, the more it will do so."
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Well, stuff happens when everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else.
And Boehm strategically voted for it.
Many government programs are explicitly, though secretly, engineered to benefit upper income people. Employer provided health insurance is a "classic" example: the more money you make, the valuable it is to have your income sheltered from taxes. Because employer provided health insurance is not treated as income, it's always been a hidden subsidy that benefits the rich more than the poor. Of course, only a tiny minority of people are aware employer provided health insurance is "welfare", much less that it's deliberately "rigged" to favor the rich. Back in the day, liberals liked to say, among themselves, "a program that only helps the poor is a poor program"--it doesn't benefit enough people to be politically viable.
Yeah, that government program that lets people keep some of what they earned favors the "rich" more than those who earn nothing.
Classic. The State not taking someone's property is "welfare".
To be fair, this promoted the whole concept of "health insurance" as being pre-paid medical expense and, pushed any sense of cost controls in the healt care industry aside. After all, who cares how much it costs. Insurance is paying for it.
The income tax system would be much "fairer" and the health care system would be much better balanced, if we didn't have the exclusion for employer provided perks. Something that happened during WWII when wages were government controlled.
That's the common element here. Isn't it? Attempts at Government control of the marketplace causing distortions.
Nah, the income tax system would work better if it taxed actual income (net), that being what one has left after paying for the necessities of life. Individuals ought to pay for their own upkeep and a enlightened system would only tax earnings over and above what is needed for basic necessities. An even more enlightened system would not tax incomes at all, as we ought to encourage individuals to work and excel.
Deductibles and copays address the "who cares, insurance pays" issues.
Well you do know you can opt out of employee health care? Also, you do realize that you get paid less because these benefits are part of your package.
But sure it favors the rich, or you know people with jobs.
Can I opt out of taxes?
"In total, about 59.9 percent of U.S. households paid income tax in 2022. The remaining 40.1 percent of households paid no individual income tax." Statistica, Nov 23, 2023
Recently this non paying percentage [yes, I know everyone gets hit with regressive taxes like sales] has been as high as 49%.
Meanwhile, "High-Income Taxpayers Paid the Majority of Federal Income Taxes. In 2020, the bottom half of taxpayers earned 10.2 percent of total AGI and paid 2.3 percent of all federal individual income taxes. The top 1 percent earned 22.2 percent of total AGI and paid 42.3 percent of all federal income taxes. Tax Foundation Jan 26, 2023
Correct me if my math is wrong, but that means the group between 50% and 99% of tax payers basically paid 49.5% of all income taxes collected?
So in other words, Democrats lie when they say that increases in tax rates won’t affect the middle. I’m shocked!
Your math is fine but your logic is faulty.
About one in every five dollars that passes through the federal welfare system ends up right back where it started,
Bullshit. It is not a 1 for 1. Those receiving and paying get back much more then they put in.
Doesn't say that.
I'd have to look into the actual data, but this sounds really damn misleading. What forms of welfare are included in this? Did they have to eliminate those who don't earn money or pay taxes to come to this conclusion?
I'd also like more clarification on this 20% claim. It sounds to me like 80% of that money is being supplied by those that receive no benefit.
I get the sense that this whole article is more about advocating for progressive taxation than lowering taxes.
This is Reason. They're into the mechanics of administering the welfare state, not eliminating it.
Looks to me like the paper the article is reporting on is saying 20% of taxpayers have a net tax burden of zero after credits and other transfers are taken into account. I thought it would be higher than that.
Exactly!
Judge Glock for SCOTUS!!!
I read many many years ago that the federal budget spent $1.2T to distribute $0.2T in benefits. I don't know if the 0.2 was included in the 1.2, but it hardly matters. I don't remember which budget, the year, anything. I mainly remember the extreme inefficiency, and that the article was not upset by the inefficiency nearly so much as just being annoyed that the benefits were so low.
Did you read that on "Phony Rightwing News"?
This analysis is contemptible. Totally missing from it is the detail needed to determine if the low-income taxpayers are better off individually by paying some taxes in but getting more back than they paid in. I also found no reference to the non-cash benefits those people might have received above and beyond what they personally paid into the "system."
Yep. A lot of phrasing that doesn't really explain anything but sounds like it's fact based and meaningful. It almost sounds like welfare recipients are receiving a 5x return on their tax investment. But that assumption is surely dampened by the overhead and waste in the system.
Oh... now that I'm reading it again it doesn't speak to the contribution amounts of recipients. So 20% of recipients also paid some amount into the system.
Idk. The wording sucks and I feel less informed about welfare benefits and how they are funded
"It's more like robbing Peter to pay Peter."
But federal employee Paul gets a huge salary and benefit package, and supports democrats.
Pretty much
lol... "About one in every five dollars".
Well I'm not a Commie 'expert' but if Peter is only getting 20% back who's taking the other 80%? Certainly couldn't be a Paul.... /s
So, if my "29%" were not taxed it would put me into another tax bracket that would be taxed at a higher rate... 😉
20 Percent of Welfare Spending Goes to the Households Taxed To Fund It
Well, that means 80% goes to the people not taxed to fund it. Since the purpose of welfare spending is to take from some and give to others, why does this surprise you?
Why should the welfare class be exempt from taxes?
“And if you don't count households that are receiving Social Security—the largest federal welfare program, even though it is rarely identified as such….” Sorry Eric, it’s not a welfare program. It’s a poorly-constructed insurance program.
Yep. Just an annuity with an actuarial component that they have been ignoring all along. Otherwise known as a Ponzi scheme.
"a bureaucratic cost"
No, they call it an "admistrative cost". And, if you've ever looked at the interactions for much of what government funding provides at the state and local levels, you'd see that this is much worse there.
I worked in public transit. Much of it is funded by federal dollars. But, the Fed creates programs and policies, and then doles out the funds to the states. The states in turn, dole out the funds to the localities, usually regional transportation organizations. These then dole out the funds to the actual, local transit operators.
Each of these fund sources take their cut along the way. Usually about 4%. It's the best way for bureaucracy to fund itself! Minimal oversight. Lot's of room for shenanigans. Always keep the programs going.
This is why I find Poole's constant harping about privitization of transportion by the use of PPPS so frustrating, Has he been in the trenches? This is exactly what's already happening and, those private contractors who get the contracts are a unique and exclusive bunch focused on gaining government contracts, with all their ridiculous, unrelated requirements. Like DBE participation. It's not the open and competitive system that Poole and others beleive it is. It's the transportation industrial complex! Engaging in a game of milk the treasury.
How did you write 500+ words on the subject and not once mention that the point is to eliminate the middle class?
Any spending that is funded by general taxes that most people pay is going to benefit some of the people that paid the tax. Some taxes are actually designed that way, like gas taxes.
Is the point of the study and this article is to say that the transfer payments of social welfare spending should be funded with taxes that don't get paid by those that benefit from those programs? Somehow I doubt that.
More like robbing Tom, Dick, and Harry to pay the robber, and telling all of them they should be thankful for whatever isn't stolen.