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Energy & Environment

Will the Climate Deal Do Anything?

Plus: White supremacists and plagiarism, Milei and shock therapy, checking in on California, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 12.13.2023 9:30 AM

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This time, they really mean it: Though historically climate agreements have infrequently amounted to much of anything, journalists across the mainstream publications are heralding the resolution agreed to by diplomats convened at Dubai's COP28 climate summit as a huge deal.

The resolution calls for "transitioning away from fossil fuels … in a just, orderly and equitable manner … so as to achieve net zero by 2050 in keeping with the science."

"The sweeping agreement, which comes during the hottest year in recorded history, was reached on Wednesday," reports The New York Times, describing the two rival groups at the summit as fast-growing or Arab oil-exporter nations vs. European nations seeking an aggressive phase-out of fossil fuels.

"In the end, negotiators struck a compromise: The new deal calls on countries to accelerate a global shift away from fossil fuels this decade … and to quit adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere entirely by midcentury," adds the Times. "It also calls on nations to triple the amount of renewable energy, like wind and solar power, installed around the world by 2030 and to slash emissions of methane, a greenhouse gas that is more potent than carbon dioxide in the short term."

"Over 100 countries called for language in the COP28 agreement to reference the 'phase out' of fossil fuels," per Axios. "The deal reached at the summit that was supposed to wrap up on Tuesday commits to 'accelerating efforts towards phase-down of unabated coal power.' But it does not mention other fossil fuels, and major oil producing nation Saudi Arabia was strongly opposed to such language."

"We are what we do, not what we say," Sultan Ahmed Al Jaber, the summit's president (and a breath of fresh air on climate realism, despite his oil-industry conflicts of interest), said in a speech. "We must take the steps necessary to turn this agreement into tangible actions."

Therein lies the rub. It's extraordinarily easy to write headlines greeting the text of this resolution as some kind of historic victory; it's a lot harder for the assenting nations to keep their word and have the right incentives in place to actually implement the agreed-upon climate policies—and in a manner that doesn't hinder development.

More on this from Reason's Ronald Bailey, who reported from Dubai and writes that "there is no 1.5°C climate cliff."

Section 702 fight: On Monday evening, two dueling bills were pulled from the House floor. The bills would have reauthorized Section 702, which allows the federal government to warrantlessly surveil foreigners abroad—sometimes catching Americans' communications in their dragnet.

"The GOP has been divided over how to extend section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act," reports CNN, "and so [House Speaker Mike] Johnson was planning to put both bills on the floor Tuesday to see which one would garner the most support, but his right flank pushed backed on the idea."

Johnson had been intending to see which bill garnered more support among his party and send that one to the Senate. This plan fell apart.

Members of Congress "are especially at odds over how severely to restrict officials' ability to plumb Americans' communications once collected," per The New York Times. "On one side, progressive congressional Democrats have joined with harder-right Republican allies of former President Donald J. Trump to rally around a Judiciary Committee bill that would sharply curtail the law while enhancing protections for Americans' privacy rights."

But there's also an Intelligence Committee bill backed by national security hawks that contains a lot fewer privacy protections. Hawks "have denounced the more reform-minded legislation as likely to put the country in greater danger from terrorists, hackers, spies and other threats," per the Times.

The actual law on the books will lapse later this month if not renewed, but the program itself may stay in operation until spring.


Scenes from New York

"Earlier this week, the board of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA)—the state agency that runs rail and bus service in the New York City area—gave initial approval to a toll schedule that will charge the average driver $15 to enter lower Manhattan during peak times (5 a.m. to 9 p.m. on weekdays and 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. on weekends)," writes Reason's Christian Britschgi.


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  • "Covid lockdowns had a 'catastrophic effect' on the UK's social fabric and the most disadvantaged are no better off now than at the time of the financial crash, a new report claims," per The Guardian.
  • Per the New York Post, Harvard had been investigating plagiarism allegations against its president, Claudine Gay, for some time now. "The college announced Tuesday morning that it … had cleared her of breaching the college's 'standards for research misconduct.' Instead, it said that she would request four corrections in two publications to insert citations and quotation marks that were originally 'omitted.'"
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Right on cue, caring about plagiarism has been added to the "white supremacist agenda".

What's the implication here, that black people can't be expected to follow the norms of academic honesty?

How can the president of a university, who ultimately oversees the punishment of… https://t.co/uSId6EgVXv

— Coleman Hughes (@coldxman) December 13, 2023

  • And even more on double standards for university presidents in the era of wokeness:

This is sort of the inverse of the finding that a white man with a criminal record is more readily called back by employers than a black man without one

Magill didn't plagiarize; Gay did. Gay survived disastrous performance before Congress, Magill didn't.… pic.twitter.com/tSwNc6AfOl

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  • At Columbia, students seem to think they can go on tuition strike with no consequences. At Brown, meanwhile, 41 students were arrested and booked earlier this week for a sit-in at which they demanded an Israel-Hamas ceasefire.
  • San Francisco Supervisor Dean Preston—who represents District 5, which encompasses the Tenderloin—says the homelessness problem is "absolutely the result of capitalism." He blamed landlords and downplayed issues with drug use and psychosis.
  • Yes:

It's wild how there's an entire planning consulting industry that basically exists to help California cities subvert state housing law.

— M. Nolan Gray (@mnolangray) December 13, 2023

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  1. Chumby   2 years ago

    A few months ago at Koch Industries HQ

    Staffer: Sir, Reason magazine’s libertarian readers are threatening to revolt.

    CK: What does the polling data say?

    Staffer: Sir, it’s bad. Real bad. They are now taking shots at Haley and even making puns about you.

    CK: Goddam it, get Brown off the Roundup. Now! Tell her…tell her she can do ten abortion articles a week. I don’t give a shit. Just get her off it. And remind all staff to not mention sandwiches to her anymore. Last time I thought we would have have a goddam eight figure lawsuit on our hands. To get her calm her down, I had to hire a food truck operated by a sex worker. You know how hard it was to find a sex worker that also runs a food truck? Paid that fucker to drive by her apartment every day for two months. Two months!

    Staffer: Consider it done sir. She won’t like this. Even if we do the food truck thing again.

    CK: Goddamit no. That’s the only time I ever pay a sex worker and not get any. If she’s still upset, tell her…tell her on Fridays she can touch Robbie’s hair. That always makes me feel like a schoolgirl when I do.

    Staffer: But sir, who’s going to do the Roundup? Polling shows the libertarians won’t trust any of the current talent. Maybe try Ron?

    CK: Goddamit no! He’s there to make the people at my Wednesday night baccarat game happy. Something about their grandkids follow this Swedish girl on Twitter and they buy into that crap. Just keep him where he is.

    Staffer: But, but sir? Who? Nick?!?!

    CK: No. He’ll ask again for a jacket stipend again and I don’t trust his sideburns. I have the solution.

    Bring in the Wolfe!

    Staffer: Are you sure? That’s an extreme measure sir.

    CK: If Reason wants libertarian, then give them the Wolfe!

    I’m sick of these low numbers. I’m sick of readers making jokes about me like I’m Stalin.

    Just make sure she signs the agreement: No Haley hit pieces and nothing that highlights our open borders. All that cheap labor is priceless.

    Pay her the standard deal with performance bonuses. Dangle some possible merch opportunity without committing.

    Staffer: Understood sir.

    CK: One more thing.

    Staffer: Sir?

    CK: Drop a Webathon after the Argentina elections. I’ve paid off the ballot counters again. The winner has been instructed to mention Reason. That should bring in some cash. I’ll never catch Musk if I keep having to bankroll this thing.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Damn it, Chumby, you made me laugh out loud in the office this morning.

      LOL!

    2. THX1138   2 years ago

      *Chef's Kiss*

    3. R Mac   2 years ago

      Ha

    4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Very well played, Chumby! Your puns alone are gut-busting in their own right, but the skit tops even those! You have outdone yourself!

      The sex worker driving the sandwich food truck to appease ENB was a scream!
      🙂
      😉
      Thank you for starting my day with some-much-needed humor!

    5. Dillinger   2 years ago

      love it.

    6. Eeyore   2 years ago

      Robbie really does have the best hair.

    7. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      Well done, sir. Well done.

  2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    Climate deal follows the “science”.
    So comforting.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Sure they've been wrong on every prediction. Sure it will cost trillions a year. Sure green energy is shown in studies to be dirtier due to mining and such. But this time they will get it right.

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        The complicity they have found with a huge chunk of the population is astounding. They are selling poverty in exchange for feeling warm and fuzzy, and I'll be damned if they don't have millions of people that are hardcore believers. If I could hire a a couple salesmen of that caliber, I'd be a very wealthy man.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          50 years of brainwashing is effective

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        The only real ‘green energy’ comes from the great power battery on Oa. And that too is only in fiction.

    2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      Zero carbon by 2050. So that means we all have 24 years to figure out how to stop exhaling. Best of luck to you.

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        The good news is, pretty much all of the delegates who signed on to this deal will have stopped exhaling by then.

      2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        "we all have 24 years to figure out how to stop exhaling"
        Start with the democrats.

      3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Human species have been using fire for cooking and controlling landscapes through burning and for at least 1 million years, so this will be the first time in a long, long time we are zero carbon emissions.

        1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

          Many cities and states mandate some degree of environmental consciousness education, where they shame children in recycling plastics. Those same cities then take 95% of plastics in a recycling bin and go dump them into a landfill right next to all the other trash.

          If we were running out of fossil fuels, the cost of creating new plastics for single-use purposes would be so severe that it would only make economic sense for someone to reuse them. That's simply not the case.

          1. Minadin   2 years ago

            Could be worse - for a couple of years (Post-Covid) the city of St. Louis wasn't even picking up the recycling in many neighborhoods. They still put the recycling dumpsters in all the alleys, they just never emptied them.

        2. Public Entelectual   2 years ago

          What was the Flintstone's favorite fossil fuel?

      4. R Mac   2 years ago

        Any plans to address this?

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darvaza_gas_crater

      5. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        We can buy several decades by depositing all democrats in landfills and paving over them.

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago

      This is the slow turn that we've been talking about since ~2014. After it was clear that the US was, hands down, the winner of the Kyoto climate competition despite not having entered and/or having quit halfway through, it was obvious that something had to be done before the entire movement became a bunch of sandwich board "The End Is Nigh!" weirdo losers.

      Prediction: 2050 will come around. We'll still be burning fossil fuels at greater than 20% of the global energy production but, because it's not 80% and despite the fact that we said 0%, achieved nothing even remotely able to be confused with 0%, and any 60+% reduction we do achieve had precisely fuck all to do with windmills, solar panels, EVs, smart grids, lab meat, organic farming, cricket-eating, nitrogen-reducing, pod-dwelling, air travel-ending, public-transportation-funding, etc., etc., etc. bullshit it will be declared a victory for the climate. 5 of the hundred or so people working on next gen fusion reactors will drive Teslas and the first commercially-viable Solid Oxide Fuel Cell by a guy who doesn't eat meat and that will validate the climate cult has been correct since the 60s.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        I always laugh at the greenies who brag about the solar panels on their roof, and how going to EVs is an inevitablity for everyone. They go noticeably silent when I point out that people who live in apartments can't exactly plug in their cars at night, nor does the grid have the capacity to handle the load demand that going even 30% electric would entail.

        Shit, California has had rolling blackouts for DECADES now, and that's before all this green bullshit, simply because the idiots in the state house have no idea how basic physics on available wattage capacity vs. load demand works. Going from a model where you bought electricity from other states to one where you're producing it yourself with "sustainable energy" doesn't change the math on that equation.

        1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

          Ask them if they mined the rare earths necessary for the construction of those solar panels themselves, or the components for solar batteries, to ensure they were done in an environmental conscientious way that was carbon-neutral.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            And with labor that is not enslaved.

            1. Agammamon   2 years ago

              This has never been a concern for the Greens or Leftists.

              All that matters to them is that the slavery isn't 'official' and it happens out of sight.

              Hence why they scream about things like the 'Palestinian Genocide' but are silent on the Uyghurs and conditions in Apple's factories.

              1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                Read an article earlier this morning on Tablet about how the Arab minorities treat blacks in African countries they control or are seeking to control. Genocide, slavery, etc. about what you would expect. But remember they are oppressed people to fighting against colonialism. Not colonists themselves (because the Arab Muslim invasions of the 7th century was colonialism, only Europeans and Jews can be colonists).

                1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                  Haven't heard of Imperial Japan was wasn't a colonial power, they claimed to be fighting European Colonialism during their military aggression of the first half of the 19th century, but they are East Asians, so it may cancel out.

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                    Japan is considered a First World country, so they don't get privilege points on the progressive stack like Third World ones do.

                  2. Agammamon   2 years ago

                    Apparently Russia was the only white power that wasn't 'colonial'. Because the sort of people who say things like that loved the Soviet Union.

                    1. markm23   2 years ago

                      The conquest of Siberia was certainly colonial, as was the Russian colonization of Alaska (before they sold it because they could not protect their sea lanes), and the extension of Russia into Georgia, Kazakhstan, etc.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Yeah, we've been outsourcing a lot of our industrial pollution for over 30 years now.

          3. Public Entelectual   2 years ago

            And what rare earths might those be?

    4. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      Will the Climate Deal Do Anything?

      Make everything even more expensive.

  3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    See the highest quality AI footage in the world.

    Too many repetitive hand gestures.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      +1 I LOLed at the AI black guy who apparently doesn't know what to do with his hands when he's speaking. The others have repetitive hand gestures but for reasons I can only assume are racist, he only gets the one.

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        Remember, the AI was written by progressives. So, of course it's racist.

    2. Bubba Jones   2 years ago

      I'd be more concerned on the complete reliance of press releases for "real" footage.

      It's very well done, but it's the next generation of click bait advertisements.

      Every story I scrolled through was a product review. How does twitter feel about the cybertruck? Let's hear from the FBI about their sensitivity training.

    3. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      I thought the AI generated Biden was the worst. Seemed so fake. Very stiff. It hardly moved and mumbled a lot. Do better AI!

  4. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Quick warning if not a common reader here. A poster named Public Entelectual will be here shortly as the topic discusses climate. He will post a fake spam site trying to mimic wattsupwiththat. He will attempt to portray he understands climate science but is full of shit. /end public service announcement.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      I think he does understand Climate Science!, which means he/she/xe is full of shit.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Somehow Public Entelectual thinks "vvatts" looks just like "watts" in the url of his scam site.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        It fooled me once I think.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          If it fools you twice, shame on you.

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again.

          2. Chumby   2 years ago

            It should not fool you tvvice.

  5. JesseAz   2 years ago

    KKK still runs the DNC as Boston Mayer emails about race segregated holiday parties.

    Boston Herald
    @bostonherald
    A Wu administration official, on behalf of the mayor, mistakenly sent all Boston city councilors an email Tuesday inviting them to a holiday party that was meant exclusively for “electeds of color,” prompting an apology and mixed reactions.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      The Caucasians should start doing the same thing for the exact same reasons.

      "We are safer when we are not exposed to POC."

      Back up this statement with crime stats.

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        Scott Adams made a similar statement satirically and got ‘cancelled’.

        1. Z Crazy   2 years ago

          30,000 white girls, raped by black males, EVERY YEAR!

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Do you have a cite and a link for that, or are you just trolling for a response?

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

              I’m sure it’s bullshit. I’ve read a lot of Adams’ writings and the guy is acerbic and sarcastic, not racist. Only a democrat could think something so stupid.

        2. Agammamon   2 years ago

          Well, it wasn't 'satirically'.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            Yeah, it was.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Separate Whites and Coloreds parties. The real Democratic Party is back, baby!

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        I think they went too far when they took away Colored's drinking fountains. Don't they want them to drink water?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Lefties unironically calling for separate but equal policies certainly wasn't on my western civ bingo card when I was going to college in the 90s.

          1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

            ingo card when I was going to college in the 90s.

            Not sure where you went to college but this was exactly what was being proposed by students and universities in the 90s, except it was ridiculed into submission. They went to sleep for about 15-20 years and now they're back, everyone agreed to disagree, and it's the law of the land.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              What happened is the students who proposed it fully embraced the relatively new scholarship on "whiteness" and "white privilege" that was being created and presented at conferences during that decade and into the early 200s, and later became college professors. I'm not even joking here, because I still see a lot of people I went to grad school with at professional conferences, and they're being praised for the same stupid bullshit that was getting mocked in class during the 90s.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                I remember back in grad school (this was late 90s-early 00s), I was in class with some idiot who claimed that white people in the 1800s experienced hardly any discrimination. I shot back, "Oh, the Irish weren't also called niggers and kept out of hireable jobs?" and shut him up instantly.

                If I said that in class today, I'd probably get kicked out of the program.

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago

      I wish we (or our public education system anyway) could take credit for her but I think really, between her Harvard Economics and Harvard Law degree, Harvard deserves at least some of the credit.

      So fucking much for Taiwanese CCP fugitives making America more diverse *and free*.

    4. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      mixed reactions.

      Heh.

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      According to Tania Fernandes Anderson, 'Many groups celebrate and come together in various ways, and it's not about excluding anyone. Instead, it's about creating spaces for like-minded individuals to connect and support each other.'

      White people need to just repeat this verbatim when PeeOhhSees bitch about white supremacy or "non-diverse spaces."

    6. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Ironically according to the current prog rules Wu is prohibited from the electeds of color party.

  6. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    The sweeping agreement, which comes during the hottest year in recorded history</b:, was …….

    Just stop repeating that ridiculous phrase.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Don't worry, next year will be the hottest ever. Then the next, then the next, then the next.......

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        And if not, they will continue to lower historical records. Erase the MWP from climate models, etc.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Or they just change the range and cherry pick their temperatures as we've seen when they claim "hottest temperature", but they only use data from 1980 or later.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            And data from weather stations that were in a field but are now next to a parking lot.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              I've been saying things like that for the better part of 30 years, even during my college years.

              1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

                A hottest year on record which saw severe winter weather.

                https://abc7.com/snow-blizzard-warning-mountains-los-angeles-county/12861368/

                Exaggeration undermines their case.

            2. R Mac   2 years ago

              Don’t remember the specifics, but at one point someone found one of the thermometers used was moved to a place at an airport that was effected by heat from jet exhaust.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                University of Arizona put a facilities parking lot right next to theirs. Parking space 4 feet away.

              2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                And the weather station that's been operating for half a century on a USDA research farm near my town was recently closed.

      2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        Odds that next year's election will be the most important election of our lifetime?

        1. Anomalous   2 years ago

          You mean, there's a chance that it won't be?

          1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

            Just curious how long we'll keep up this streak.

  7. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Can some of the posters here pushing the false cleanest election ever narrative stop? Survey shows nearly 20% of voters admit to mailing in friends and family ballots they themselves filled out and some even fsked signatures.

    The poll of 1,085 likely voters released on Tuesday, which was conducted from November 30 to December 6, asked, “During the 2020 election, did you fill out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child?” A total of 21% of respondents who said they had cast mail-in ballots answered 'yes.'

    Many also admitted to voting in states they weren't residents of.

    Furthermore, 17% of mail-in voters admitted they voted in a state where they "were no longer a permanent resident.” Seventeen percent also said they signed a “ballot or ballot envelope on behalf of a friend or family member.”

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/poll-one-five-mail-voters-admit-committing-voter-fraud-2020-election

    Jeff will deny this polling exists.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Wisconsin requires election officials to verify those who utilize same day registration of votes. It turns out the DA refuses to do what is required of him. There is no election fraud if you dont look after all.

      https://publicinterestlegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/MKE-DA-Report-2023-FINAL.pdf

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "Jeff will deny this polling exists."

      No. He'll try to discredit your news source, and if that doesn't work he'll try to redefine the poll questions, and if that doesn't work he'll attack the pollsters.

      Let's watch.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Gald he didn't refresh before posting his long list of prevarications.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Rarely have I ever seen anyone use so much verbiage to say so little as he does.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            If there were a million bears in a million trunks with a million typewriters…

            1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

              They'd be pounding out a million copies of "Snow White is a Homophobe."

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      Let's do some fact-checking on this claim.

      From your link:
      One in five voters who cast mail-in ballots during the November 2020 election admit to committing voter fraud, according to a new poll by The Heartland Institute and Rasmussen Reports.

      But that conclusion is not supported by the evidence provided.

      The poll question was:
      “During the 2020 election, did you fill out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child?”

      We have no idea what the "in part" means - it could mean something as innocuous as filling out the return address portion of the ballot envelope, which would not meaningfully constitute "voter fraud". Furthermore, the legal definition of "voter fraud" varies from state to state - in Wisconsin, the state you mention, voter fraud in this context would consist of someone who "Impersonates a registered elector or poses as another person for the purpose of voting at an election".

      https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/document/statutes/12.13(1)(d)

      (If this is not the right statute, feel free to provide a correction.)

      If a person were to, say, fill out the return address portion of a ballot envelope, would this person fairly and legally be considered to have committed "voter fraud" in the state of Wisconsin? I think that would be a stretch.

      Furthermore, 17% of mail-in voters admitted they voted in a state where they “were no longer a permanent resident.”

      This poll question is a little bit confusing:

      "6. During the 2020 election, did you cast a mail-in ballot in a state where you were no longer a permanent resident?"

      It could be interpreted as meaning if someone voted in 2020 in a state where they are NOW no longer a resident. Also, even if a person voted in 2020 in a state where they weren't a permanent resident in 2020, it is not necessarily a crime as most states permit a grace period after moving to update a voter registration. Again this is not necessarily proof of voter fraud.

      Seventeen percent also said they signed a “ballot or ballot envelope on behalf of a friend or family member.”

      Again this is not necessarily a crime, as this can include individuals who hold power of attorney for elderly relatives.

      And, also just to point out the obvious, these are poll results, not proven facts according to any legal standard.

      I guess I would also question what is the purpose of publishing a poll like this, with blaring headlines about VOTER FRAUD when there are very obvious and easy explanations for the results that aren't necessarily voter fraud.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        did you fill out a ballot

        This has historically meant to select a candidate. Stop pretending to be obtuse.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          Again without precise definition of terms in the poll question, the meaning is left up to the respondent to fill in the gaps created by the ambiguities.

          A good-faith interpretation of this poll is that the authors wanted to try to measure how widespread voter fraud really was, in an admittedly flawed and limited way.

          A bad-faith interpretation of this poll is that the authors intentionally used ambiguous and non-legal terms to try to generate surprisingly large values for "voter fraud" to try to push a deceptive "widespread fraud" narrative.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            As t ‘bad faith’ your nickname in kindergarten?

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Did I call it or what?

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                You nailed it ML.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Pegged his response perfectly.

              3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                Spot on, as usual.

          2. Agammamon   2 years ago

            Oh, *now* we need 'precise definitions of terms'.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Of course, and they must be an agreed upon consensus of rules based on agreed upon facts. Didn't you get his memo yesterday?

              1. HorseConch   2 years ago

                He's right. There's no consensus on this poll or on the fraud.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              We have always needed precise definition of terms.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                OK, what is a woman?

        2. HorseConch   2 years ago

          I'm pretty sure he's that stupid.

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        The supposed benefits of mail in ballots are outweighed by the potential for fraud.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

          The fraud is the benefit.

      3. R Mac   2 years ago

        “The poll question was:
        “During the 2020 election, did you fill out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child?”

        We have no idea what the “in part” means”

        HONK HONK!

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          And your point is?

          1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

            You engaged is bad faith "fact checking" to deflect from the results of the poll. Chemjeff, radical prevaricator.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              I pointed out what the poll results *truly show*. The article is misleading, the poll results do NOT show "one in five voters who cast mail-in ballots during the November 2020 election admit to committing voter fraud". Because the way the poll was constructed, it didn't use the legal definition of the term "voter fraud" and it used very open-ended terms like "did you help someone else to fill out the ballot, in whole or in part", which could be a very de minimis amount of effort which did not meaningfully contribute to any sort of fraud, let alone with any intent to deceive.

              1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

                I pointed out what the poll results *truly show*

                Lol, you did no such thing. You have a rather unrealistic opinion of yourself. They aren't getting their money's worth even at 50 cents.

                Chemjeff, self-important blowhard

          2. R Mac   2 years ago

            You’re a clown.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              You know those clown cars at the circus? Where many clowns exit? Imagine a clown that couldn’t fit in the car by himself.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                But, could the bear fit in the trunk at the same time?

              2. R Mac   2 years ago

                Found Jeffy:

                https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/74fbb21f-fcf5-424f-9b97-eba70095a34c/dcuimm9-98bca07a-39f2-4bac-a261-ec61cc97b863.jpg/v1/fill/w_763,h_1048,q_70,strp/big_clown_by_rumpuboy4_dcuimm9-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTc1OCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzc0ZmJiMjFmLWZjZjUtNDI0Zi05Yjk3LWViYTcwMDk1YTM0Y1wvZGN1aW1tOS05OGJjYTA3YS0zOWYyLTRiYWMtYTI2MS1lYzYxY2M5N2I4NjMuanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEyODAifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.F-bWway4jQNxI12u8Gv_jnnfWjnTh4XbZzxXq54V4mY

                1. Chumby   2 years ago

                  Stuffed Krusty the Clown

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  What are you, 12?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    If he were, Pluggo might be interested.

                  2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                    Why Jeffy? Looking for a vicitm?

                    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      No twelve year old boy is going to keep his balls on chemjeff's watch.

      4. Agammamon   2 years ago

        https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/12/07/washington-state-economist-refused-to-lie-so-they-forced-him-out-n597366

        This is the 'shared understanding of reality' you like so much.

        'Consensus science'.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          No, it is not. Again you seem to have this paranoid idea that if we agree on facts, that we will descend into some 1984-esque hellscape.

          1. Agammamon   2 years ago

            And yet this is how every 'shared understanding of reality' mediated by other people - and this is what you have been advocating for - turns out.

            Maybe you're not paranoid enough?

            Maybe you're part of the egregore. How's Twitter?

    4. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      Neither 17% nor 20% meet the threshold of "widespread".

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        To be completely fair, it was 20% of the 30% who said they voted by mail, which comes to 65 of the 1085, basically 6% of respondents to the poll, which falls pretty close to my "troll" range.

    5. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Its a poll. If that's what your grasping at as evidence that Trump won, it's not very compelling.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        I know it's hard for some people to move past Trump but that's a pretty fucking seriously critical crack in your electoral system to just acknowledge the existence of and leave completely unrepaired and unaddressed going forward.

        If next year, someone (or Trump if thinking of people besides him is too difficult) campaigns on getting everyone to fill out ballots for their infirm, older relatives, on getting assisted living administrators to fill out and submit ballots for anyone and everyone under their roof, no matter how dementia-addled, should the Zoomers and Millennials who took off work just accept the outcome supported by the jobs program that is the post office?

        Even by ATM's troll calculus, performatively fucking the goat is still throwing billions at Ukraine, doubling down on EVs, etc., etc., etc.

        1. HorseConch   2 years ago

          Lots of countries don't know who the president is for several days after. Totally normal and secure.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Days? Hell, in my state, Illinois, it can be up to two weeks afterward.

          2. Chumby   2 years ago

            Bush-Gore certainly didn’t have an instant result.

      2. R Mac   2 years ago

        Ctrl+F “Trump won” = 0.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Shhhh. Narratives have to be said.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Also ignore the DoJ is trying to convict trump from claiming election issues exist.

      3. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Got it. Voter fraud is good because of Trump. Go with that.

    6. Super Scary   2 years ago

      I don't understand how you don't get it yet JesseAz. The tweets were so mean. Something had to be done!

  8. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Sure Joe lost at the USSC regarding student loan bailouts, but as sarc always tells us, Joe recognizes the constitution. Such as when he brags about stoll forgiving student loans despite the loss.

    President Biden
    @POTUS
    We’ve approved over a total of $132 billion in student debt cancellation for 3.6 million Americans through various actions.
    .
    Getting student loan debt relief to borrowers that need it is about extending the power of possibilities to every American, not just those at the top.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      Jesse, is it your claim that all $132 billion of the student loan forgiveness is unconstitutional?

      My understanding is that at least part of it was due to fixing a screw-up at the Department of Education where they would deny student-loan forgiveness for individuals under certain circumstances according to existing law, such as working for nonprofits for a certain period of time.

      But it could be that a good portion of it was unconstitutional, and if so, that is wrong.

      I'd just like to see a breakdown of how much of it, if any, was legal and how much of it was not.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        So is Joe a liar or what?

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          Obviously yes.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Your understanding is wrong. Imagine calling yourself a libertarian while defending government changes ex post facto of agreed to contractual terms causing bailouts for favored constituents for political reasons.

        The hilarity of your post is you admit to being ignorant about the issue but still rush in to defend Joe.

        You are free to go give the break downs to prove your assertions and feels, but we know you won't.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          I will even clarify it for you jeff. It wasn't a system glitch or mistake. The forgiveness regulations were changed, not fixed, in order to expand the number of loans forgiven in order to increase the number of loan forgiveness. This was done after he lost at the USSC. The entire impetus was a run around the ruling. He has stated clearly in the past, even post ruling he would find ways to subvert the ruling relying on the slowness of the courts to stop him.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            Do you have a source for your claim? Or do you expect me to just take your word for it?

            1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

              No one expects anything from you except obfuscation and lies and denial.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                I'm asking a straightforward good faith question. What is the harm in answering it?

                Do you think it is some sort of trap to ask for a source for a claim about the regulations changes for student loan forgiveness?

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  You’re not fooling anyone.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                    So is this where you claim that I really meant something other than what I said, and that I am a liar for not stating what you claim that I really meant but didn't say? And that, oh, if I were to do the same thing to you - try to claim that you really mean something different than what you say - that if I were to do so, it would make me a liar by attempting to change your words into something different than what you said?

                    That your words are to be taken at face value, but my words are to be "reinterpreted" to mean something other than what I say? Is that the double standard that we are operating under now?

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      The infer what you really mean, and when you disagree you're the liar.

                    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      *They*

                      (edit is busted)

                    3. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

                      You've lately been complaining that people are only citing your exact words without your interpretation behind them, and now you are complaining that they are inferring your (or Jeff's in this case) interpretation?

                2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  Classic Pedo Jeffy sea lioning.

              2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                Do you think Jesse is telling the truth here? How do you know he is?

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  He knows JesseAz is a liar. He can't be that stupid. He overlooks it because he hates the people who Jesse lies about, so that makes it ok.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    You realize how dumb your constant bald assertions countered by actual evidence makes you look right?

                  2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                    Fuck off, you drunk piece of shit. You’re just mad because Jesse slaps you around like the little bitch you are.

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            The forgiveness regulations were changed, not fixed, in order to expand the number of loans forgiven in order to increase the number of loan forgiveness.

            Even if this is true - was this change legal, or illegal? If the change was legal, then even if it we might object to it, it is constitutional, no?

            I don't think anyone here disagrees that Biden is interested in forgiving student loans in order to help his re-election chances, and I don't think anyone here seriously disagrees that he is not above bending the rules to accomplish this. But does it matter that in this particular case whether the action was legit or not?

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              It rotten and you know it.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                It is very obviously a political stunt, yes. He is literally trying to buy votes with taxpayer dollars.

                1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                  It’s worse than a “stunt”.

                  1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                    Notice how he won’t outright condemn straight up de o rat criminal behavior? Just like he won’t condemn letting illegal alien rapists into the US.

          3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            So what was this, 20-30 posts of trolling and insults, that could have been all avoided if Jesse could have just posted whatever source he had that was the basis for his claim that "It wasn’t a system glitch or mistake. The forgiveness regulations were changed, not fixed, in order to expand the number of loans forgiven in order to increase the number of loan forgiveness. This was done after he lost at the USSC. The entire impetus was a run around the ruling."

            So, my hypothesis is that Jesse does not have a solid source for his claim, that he heard it from some social media rumor mill or some very biased right-leaning site that would obviously not be considered a trustworthy source.

            Meanwhile, I found this source:

            https://studentaid.gov/announcements-events/idr-account-adjustment

            If you’re on an IDR plan or working toward PSLF, your remaining loan balance gets forgiven after you make the required number of payments (the amount of time depends on your plan, see below).

            In the past, there were a variety of reasons why some months may not have been credited toward loan forgiveness—for example, months when you were in a payment plan that wasn’t eligible.

            In a one-time adjustment, we will change whether certain payments or months are credited toward your loan forgiveness.

            So, this "one-time adjustment" appears to be one source of student loan forgiveness. I don't know how much of it constitutes the $132 billion that was referenced above and I don't know if the "one-time adjustment" is congruent with existing law.

            Also, this is I think what sarc and I were referring to when we discussed student loan forgiveness as correcting past errors:

            https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/19/politics/student-loan-debt-forgiveness-repayment/index.html

            The changes announced Tuesday will help federal student loan borrowers who did not get accurate information from their loan servicers about their repayment options and were steered into forbearance – which allows for a temporary stop in payments – when they could have been enrolled in an IDR plan.

            So because the borrowers were in forbearance, and not IDR, they didn't get credit towards forgiveness that they would have had if they had been in the IDR plan. So that was a legitimate mistake. Also note the date of the article is in April 2022, which is before the SCOTUS ruling on Biden's big student loan plan that was struck down.

            So there are a lot of different student loan forgiveness plans and programs out there, and so that is one reason why it would have been nice to have seen Jesse's source so I know which one he is talking about (if any!). Is it the one mentioned above, the "one-time adjustment"? Or is it the one mentioned below, the "forbearance error"? The "one-time adjustment" seems fishy. The "forbearance error" seems like a legitimate mistake on the part of the government and/or the loan servicers.

            But maybe none of this matters, let's just sit around and say it's all unconstitutional when it's not.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              So what was this, 20-30 posts of trolling and insults, that could have been all avoided...

              Stop right there. You could've ended it at any time, yet you willing persisted and participated, and now you want to blame others for the volume of posts you made. Cut the crap, Jeffy, and be concise and to the point early on instead of dancing around, obfuscating, and practicing a Gish Gallop. That's how these threads get so long.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                Do you have a comment to make on the substance of what I wrote above?

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  At this point, what does it matter? The point of argument and debate is to present ideas and convince people of positions based on facts. You've been told and shown facts, yet you fail to heed them consistently and persist in indulging in your ignorance. You bluster and bloviate while obfuscating your lack of knowledge in torrents of bullshit. You willingly partake in trolling and insults yet whine when they are used on you. So, what does it matter other than demonstrating your willful ignorance on an issue? You manage to use more verbiage than almost anyone I've ever seen to say so little.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                    So what exactly do you want from me?

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      How about you be concise and honest for once, eh?

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      No guarantees on being concise. I try to be thorough.
                      Where in the discussion today have I not been honest?

                    3. R Mac   2 years ago

                      He’s not capable.

                    4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      Leave, and never come back.

            2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

              “So what was this, 20-30 posts of trolling and insults, that could have been all avoided…….”

              Yes, we’re tired of your behavior. So stop posting on Reason and never come back. You belong with your fellow travelers at someplace like WaPo.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          rush in to defend Joe.

          Like where I said this?

          "But it could be that a good portion of it was unconstitutional, and if so, that is wrong."

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t! Guess we’ll never know! Just asking questions here, right?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              Guess we’ll never know!

              No - I think we can know, which is why I'm asking for some sources so that we can try to figure it out.

              I'm absolutely willing to believe that some of it is unconstitutional. But I would like to have a firm base of knowledge upon which to make that determination. Wouldn't you?

              Or do you simply say "well, it's a Biden student loan forgiveness program, Jesse said it's unconstitutional so therefore it must be so"?

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                Nobody’s forcing you to remain ignorant.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  His religious beliefs in leftism forces just that.

      3. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

        Fuck off cunt, you're looking to deflect and call the whole thing fine if even a single dollar is legitimate. There isn't a reason to bring any of this up if you cannot cite the actual value of the "correction" (ie, not a redefinition to squeeze more in) versus the total amount.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          you’re looking to deflect and call the whole thing fine if even a single dollar is legitimate.

          Like where I said this?

          "But it could be that a good portion of it was unconstitutional, and if so, that is wrong."

          There isn’t a reason to bring any of this up if you cannot cite the actual value of the “correction” (ie, not a redefinition to squeeze more in) versus the total amount.

          I would like to understand the truth of the matter, wouldn't you?

      4. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        I heard something similar, that the majority of people getting this round of loan forgiveness were already eligible due to income or place of employment.

        As far as the legality goes, that is judged by the political tribe doing it, not the law itself. You should know this by now.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Yes. You have the same leftist narrative sources as Jeff. We know. Note neither of you bother to back up your assertions.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            And the source for your claim is...?

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Likely Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                I think he likely did hear it somewhere on social media, but hey I'm willing to listen to some credible source.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  And what, do tell, is your definition of "credible source"? You've been given some in the past just for you to dismiss.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                    Well, the most credible source would of course be the primary source material. Why don't you start there?

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      We've given you such in the past. You've rejected it fairly consistently for some reason or another.

                    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      I do all the time, and so what you've done here in the past is search up partisan sites with news stories on the primary source material and attack that instead.

                      You're really quite something, Jeffy.

                    3. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Let’s try again:

                      The article about the UN instructing governments how to control their citizens speech had a link to the primacy source in the first paragraph. He refused to read it.

                    4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      I did read it. You were the one who refused to read it.

                      So do you have the primary source material, or not?

                    5. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      We’ve given you such in the past. You’ve rejected it fairly consistently for some reason or another.

                      All you have to say is that you have no interest in providing a source, all you care to do in this conversation is criticize me, and that would be more honest. Plus it would save time.

                    6. R Mac   2 years ago

                      I read the beginning of it liar. I even quoted the intro liar. It was bullshit about misinformation and disinformation liar. And you never refuted anything in the article that was discussing it.

                      As usual, you’re just being a dishonest lefty bullshitter and other than pour sarc everyone here knows it. You’re a clown.

                  2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Do you see the irony in that statement?

                    From what I can tell when a source says something you don't like you say it's not credible, and when you like what a source says then you say it's credible.
                    Heads I win; tails you lose.

                    1. R Mac   2 years ago

                      The article about the UN instructing governments how to control their citizens speech had a link to the primacy source in the first paragraph. He refused to read it.

                    2. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Guess the edit isn’t working.

                      Anyway wrong place for this comment.

                    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      You literally just said information was false because of Hannity and Tucker dumbass.

                      Here is the funny part. You and Jeff refuse to read links to read information.

                      The rest of us always read your links and point out the issues or counter information. Ask Shrike.

                      This is projection buddy.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Sarc, do you still wonder why people call you a leftist? Youre defending you and Jeff from pushing a bald leftist narrative using a common leftist strawman of Hannity and Tucker. And unfounded attempt at an ad hominem mind you, most every leftist utilizes.

                Thanks for once again demonstrating why you're called a leftist.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Your own comment record speaks for itself.

          2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            I'm just repeating what I heard.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              Was it from Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity?

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                You're as stupid as R Mac.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Well, do you have a source (any source)? If so, post the cite and the link.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    I can't post or cite the radio.

                    My comment to Dlam was referencing the fact that neither he nor R Mac know what the word "likely" means.

                    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity usually have their transcripts posted online.

                    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                      I never questioned the use of any word, just wondering where you “heard” it.

                    3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      Fuck off you drunken pussy.

                    4. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Tucker Carlson’s show is on Twitter now. It would be very easy to cite.

                      And do you really think people here are watching or listening to Sean Hannity? Please say yes.

                    5. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Sarc will never provide his sources. It is always vague and nebulous. It is amazing.

                      Just like last week when he refused to cite his evidence a Kirby press conference was fake. Despite being given a link to the video he claimed was fake.

                    6. Chumby   2 years ago

                      The actual press conference video drop was slow played because it was amusing seeing the level of smugness rise. But who knows, maybe Tulpa was running his account that day after having hacked it.

      5. R Mac   2 years ago

        “I’d just like to see a breakdown of how much of it, if any, was legal and how much of it was not.”

        HONK HONK!

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          Ya know what? I apologize. I should never have asked for clarification on some action taken by a Democrat. I should simply assume that whenever a Democrat does something, it is wrong and evil and unconstitutional, and if anyone is pushing a narrative that complies with this assumption, I should let it go unchallenged, because pushing narratives about how terrible Democrats are is more important than seeking the truth.

          On the other hand, if it is some action taken by a Republican, then we ought to do our due diligence and understand it fully, because sometimes it is good and sometimes it is bad. Sometimes they mean well, sometimes they don't! We can't just automatically assume they are terrible awful people, like we can with Democrats.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            "STOP ATTACKING THE DEMOCRATS!!!! SURE YOU ALL SHIT CONSTANTLY ON THE GOPe AND THE NEOCONS BUT YOU'RE ALL REPUBLIKKKANS!!!!"

            You would have been better off calling us "MAGA" or "Populists" or some other name that sounds super-bad to DNC shills like you.

          2. R Mac   2 years ago

            So your response to me calling you a clown is to make up more bullshit.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              Oh you are right, I screwed up again. Obviously I should have done what you did, and just kept my mouth shut and let questionable statements remain unchallenged if they are helpful to my cause. Who cares if people believe in lies, as long as those lies help the cause of liberty, right?

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                “I mean, as we all learned from the COVID lockdowns, noble lies in the pursuit of a greater good are totally awesome, right?”

                Amazing.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  You are advocating for "noble lies" right here. If Jesse's claim is that all of the student loan forgiveness that the Biden admin has approved is unconstitutional, then based on what I have found, that claim is not just false, but a lie because Jesse knows better. However, it's a claim that advances the interests of liberty, insofar as a belief in the lie deters support for these types of wealth redistribution schemes, so why wouldn't libertarians just perpetuate the lie? Hmm? I'm opposing this garbage and all you do is throw shit at me. Why aren't you also opposing the "noble lies" here, just like you opposed the "noble lies" of the COVID lockdowns? Because you are an unprincipled fraud and a troll.

                  1. R Mac   2 years ago

                    Bullshit.

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      That is what you are doing, implicitly. When Jesse says something false about Biden or Democrats, but it nevertheless propagates a libertarian-friendly narrative, and I say something to object to Jesse's false claim, you sure do seem ready to lambaste me for my objection. What is that if not a defense of Jesse's "noble lies"?

                      Take a look at what happened today:

                      Jesse claimed that Biden's student loan forgiveness programs are unconstitutional.

                      He doesn't present any evidence for his claim.
                      On the other hand, I present evidence which casts doubt on this claim.

                      Now, it would be nice if Jesse's claim was true, wouldn't it? Because if it were true, then it would cast Biden and the Democrats in an even worse light. Wouldn't that be a victory for liberty?

                      And so, predictably, what did you do. You rushed to defend Jesse's lies and attack me for criticizing Jesse's lies.

                      You defended the noble lie. You pulled a Fauci. Own up to what you are doing.

                    2. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Nope. You’re full of shit Lying Jeffy.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              I mean, as we all learned from the COVID lockdowns, noble lies in the pursuit of a greater good are totally awesome, right?

              Just like when anyone posts anything authored by the UN. Any good libertarian ought to ignore it, because it is likely to be anti-liberty and bullshit. I mean, we don't know for certain, because we wouldn't have read it, but who cares? It's the fucking UN. They suck. We don't need them. Ignorance is our strength.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                It’s the fucking UN. They suck.

                Yeah, if it's one thing a "radical individualist" would do, it's defend a global world order organization.

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  Who wants to live in a world without the UN telling its member nations how to control their citizens speech?

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                    All hail radical managerialism!

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  And here we go again. Saying "I normally don't agree with them but I am willing to listen to what they say" is not the same as defending them.

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                    What if what they say has no actual value?

                  2. R Mac   2 years ago

                    It’s not about normally agreeing or disagreeing with them.

                    IT’S NOT THE UNITED NATIONS FUCKING ROLE TO TELL GOVERNMENTS HOW TO CONTROL CITIZEN’S SPEECH. FUCK OFF SLAVER!

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      It’s not about normally agreeing or disagreeing with them.

                      Is that why you refused to read their report?

                    2. R Mac   2 years ago

                      Are you really this dense or just being dishonest?

      6. Agammamon   2 years ago

        My claim is that the government guaranteeing student loans in the first place is unconstitutional.

        And yes, taking my money from me to give to rich kids that took on stupid debt is unconstitutional.

      7. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        Ah, I see the problem. An individualist can see the objective reality that the loan program in its entirety is unconstitutional. A typical collectivist thinks that since they can get away with it because it falls within the framework of current law and the Supreme Court hasn't stopped it, it's totes constitutional.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          An individualist can see the objective reality that the loan program in its entirety is unconstitutional.

          That's not "objective reality". That is a belief, a conclusion based on evidence.

          All I am trying to do in this discussion is to uncover facts. How about you?

    2. Chumby   2 years ago

      Maybe this is why the dollars in my wallet are shrinking. Though the shrinkage in my pants pocket could be due to just seeing a photo of Dr. Jill Biden.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        Tulsi Gabbard could potentially be the cure to both of your ailments.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          I hear Susanna Gibson's looking for work.

          1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

            I hear she's great at fundraising.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              She is looking for donations from those with large endowments.

      2. Agammamon   2 years ago

        You just need to start using the 'objective facts' provided by the Biden Administration.

        Then your 'shared understanding of reality' would let you understand that you chocolate ration changing from 30 grams to 20 grams *is an increase!*

    3. Minadin   2 years ago

      Every single one of my new student loan payment statement envelopes, since the moratorium ended, has been over 50% filled with material regarding various programs to lower my payments or fully or partially cancel my debt.

      Rather odd behavior from a lender.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        Ditto. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you look at it, I make WAY too much money to qualify.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          So you see the changes to the programs Joe is making in order to get around the USSC, yet right above you claim it was just fixing errors for people already eligible. Weird.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            You know it’s all a lie when he claims to make too much money.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              If you are half as poor as you are stupid, you must be living in squalor.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Ah yes, ideas.

              2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                A former homeless drunk that burned steaks as a cook is suddenly making 6 figures. Sounds plausible.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Wasn't sudden. Took years.

                  1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                    Sure pussy. Years of severe alcohol abuse to reinforce the delusion that your welfare check is a ‘six figure income’.

                    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                      Let’s be fair. He did once stay a weekend in a half million dollar lakefront rental home.

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      It required others chipping in for that trip mind you.

                    3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                      I’m pretty sure that too was a drunken delusion. With the ‘lakefront home’ being a piss soaked alley behind some dive bar. The ‘cool dudes’ were likely the other hobos.

                      I’m sure he was sleeping off a half gallon bottle of the cheapest booze he could buy.

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Lol. I didn't want to point that out to him.

          2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            I didn't make a claim beyond "this is what I heard."

            Funny how you can't even repeat a single sentence without being a piece of shit liar.

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              chemjeff radical individualist 19 mins ago
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              And the source for your claim is…?

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              sarcasmic 14 mins ago
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              Likely Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity.

              Where did you hear this?

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                like·ly
                adjective
                1. such as well might happen or be true; probable.
                "it was likely that he would make a televised statement"

                I'm not claiming anything as fact, rather saying something is probable. Learn the English fucking language you illiterate boor.

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  Keep spinning clown.

                2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-was-only-pretending-to-be-retarded

                  1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                    Sarc should try spending a year dead, for tax purposes. Maybe it will take

        2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          I call bullshit. No way your welfare check is ‘too much’ for anything. It clearly doesn’t even cover your bottom shelf liquor consumption.

        3. Minadin   2 years ago

          I've mostly thrown it away, but yeah, unless you work in some preferred field deemed public service, like teaching or nursing or for the government, the qualification limits are far too low to affect me.

          Not that I'm trying to lower my payments. On the contrary, I've been trying to raise them. (Successfully now that the payments have restarted)

    4. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      but as sarc always tells us, Joe recognizes the constitution

      To anyone new to the comments, whenever JesseAz invokes my name he is always lying. If he told the truth he'd probably have an aneurism. Truth is that I once pointed out that Biden said something along the lines of "The Constitution says I can't do that" while Trump said something like "The Constitution says I can do whatever I want." I was pointing out that at least Biden gives lip-service to the Constitution, while Trump acts like a petulant child. Being the piece of shit liar that he is, JesseAz claims I say this all the time when it's he who says it all the time, while always ignoring what Trump said.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        And then Biden did exactly what the Constitution said he could not do. Trump did not.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          And then Biden did exactly what the Constitution said he could not do.

          Yup. A politician didn't keep his word. Shocking, isn't it?

          Trump did not.

          That all depends on who you ask.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            And what is your cite that Trump acted outside the Constitution? We have ample evidence of Biden doing so with student loan forgiveness.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Oh come on. Just google it and you'll get a million hits.

              What does it matter? Seems like your goal here is to somehow prove I was wrong when I quoted the two men, based upon what has happened since. So fucking what? It doesn't change what they said. I'm sure you're employing some logical fallacy here but I'm not going to put in the effort to identify it.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Just google it and you’ll get a million hits.

                Most of which tends to be Democrats merely posting slander and rumors that have never been true. They hate the man (TDS is a bitch, isn't it?) and will do or say anything due to their blind hatred.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Meanwhile Trump's Deranged Followers (TDS is a bitch, isn't it) believe the man never did anything wrong, and anyone who says different is mentally ill. Oh the irony...

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    However, there are not many (if any) of those here. A number of us either didn't vote for the man the first time, or never voted for the man. Some of us even despise having to be put in a position to defend the man. Yet, if we don't here, we see the erosion of the rule of law and the erosion of equal treatment under the law.

                    1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                      Sarc has long made it clear that if you treat Trump fairly at all, that means you not only voted for him but want him to be Fuhrer and Ayatollah combined.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      Some of us even despise having to be put in a position to defend the man. Yet, if we don’t here, we see the erosion of the rule of law and the erosion of equal treatment under the law.

                      Why is this true only for Trump?

                      Why is this not true for any person you don't particularly agree with?

                      Wouldn't it also be equally true that "even though you despise Biden, if you don't defend Biden, you would see the erosion of the rule of law and the erosion of equal treatment under the law"? Or substitute Obama, Bush, etc.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Why is this not true for any person you don’t particularly agree with?

                      I never said it wasn't true, even if I'm not fond of the person. Personally, I'm not fond of Trump, but the witch hunt is ridiculous.

                      Wouldn’t it also be equally true that “even though you despise Biden, if you don’t defend Biden, you would see the erosion of the rule of law and the erosion of equal treatment under the law”? Or substitute Obama, Bush, etc.

                      I would defend Biden from it, were it shown to be a witch hunt. The problem here is that, instead of a witch hunt, it's more of a coverup by the press. They run interference for the man.

                      Back about 20 years ago, we had a governor by the name of George Ryan. He was a Republican, and was governor from 1998-2002. Prior to that, he was secretary of state (SOS). Now, in Illinois, the SOS handles the motor vehicle and driver licensing functions. Ryan' office had been selling CDLs for campaign contributions during his tenure as SOS. I wasn't fond of Ryan, but I championed the prosecution as Ryan was filthier than sin and the evidence was obvious (as obvious as it is currently for Biden and his son). I didn't care what political stripe he was, Ryan was a filthy rat who earned his place in a federal pen.

                      That said, all prosecutions need to go through proper due diligence and due process, regardless of how obvious the guilt is. Should Biden be indicted for what he has done, it should be done with proper due process, instead of having a judge who is so obviously playing sides, you'd swear that if he were a referee, he'd be wearing team colors.

                    4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      It is good to see that you support getting rid of corrupt politicians even Republican ones.

                      I do note, however, in the above discussion, that you seemed to be incredulous to the idea that Trump violated the Constitution while he was president. Here's a partial list of candidate offenses for you to consider.

                      https://www.cato.org/commentary/exit-survey-trumps-constitutional-misdeeds

                    5. R Mac   2 years ago

                      The bumpstock ban was criticized by many of us at the time, Lying Jeffy. You’ll keep ignoring that though.

                      Having acting directors for too long was particularly atrocious though.

                  2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                    No pussy, Trump made a number of mistakes. Some glaring. Like allowing democrat trash like you, Jeffy and Pluggo to live.

                  3. R Mac   2 years ago

                    Who said Trump never did anything wrong?

                  4. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Do you have a citation for your strawman sarc?

                2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Fucking edit doesn't work. Replace "Followers" with "Supporters."

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Yeah, the edit function needs repair this morning.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Why are you not able to defend your bald assertions?

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        I'm lying?

        sarcasmic 4 months ago
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        Why wouldn’t there be? Despite all his faults, at least Biden recognizes the Constitution. Can’t say the same about Trump.

        You even know I have this bookmark. How fucking pathalogical are you?

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          In that thread you double and triple down that Biden follows the constitution even. Lol.

          Youre so full of shit sarc. You even get called out for putting words over actions and then deny you are doing so. Here is the link. You look fucking terrible in it.

          https://reason.com/2023/08/07/hollow-major-parties-preside-over-a-politics-of-fear-and-loathing/?comments=true#comment-10186871

          So another clear example of you lying about your past statements as well as motivation. Because youre pathalogical.

      3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        To anyone new to the comments, Sarc is a thoroughly discredited leftist, rageaholic who often posts while getting blackout drunk. Earlier this year he he drunkenly threatened me with violence then hid from me for months afterwards. As he is a massive, gutless pussy. He is also an inveterate liar. Obsessed with Jesse AZ, who frequently points out Sarc’s stream of dishonesty. This is why he’s falsely claiming Jesse is a liar.

        Sarc is a bottom feeding, drunk troll who won’t go away. Everyone here hates him except the pedophile, and the really fat pedophile. Yet we are the closest thing he has to friends.

  9. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Will the Climate Deal Do Anything?

    Will it do anything for climate change? No.

    Will it do anything for bloviating politicians? Yes.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      What will it do for them?

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        Further enrich.

      2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        They've collectively reasoned that it will make themselves much, much richer.

      3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        Travel and fine dining perks.

    2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

      It won’t do anything for climate change because the climate evolves naturally, irrespective of human activity or the wish dreams of Marxist politicians, or their morbidly obese groomer Marxist drones.

  10. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Harvard cancels conservative event 2 days after congressional hearings.


    Sohrab Ahmari
    @SohrabAhmari
    Two days after Claudine Gay claimed that genocidal rhetoric might be protected speech at Harvard because that’s how committed she is to free speech, her university canceled an event featuring a congressman who’d mocked …. Harvard cancel culture.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      And? When it comes to genocide and free speech, Republicans aren't a genus to be genocided the way Mexican is a race for Trump to be racist in opposing immigration.

      Seriously, these people aren't going to stop until they've pushed the pendulum all the way back to the point where they're the ones getting punched in the face and, even then, they'll use it to score victim credit points.

    2. Super Scary   2 years ago

      This whole "free speech on college campuses no matter what!" thing has been purely a "a broken clock is right twice a day" situation.

  11. Minadin   2 years ago

    What did you guys do with FoE?

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      He’s having trouble adjusting to the whole daylight savings time thing.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      We beat him to the punch is what we did.

    3. Chumby   2 years ago

      I’m the staffer at Koch Industries identified above. I get to comment on articles before they get posted.

    4. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      He's probably stuck on the PA turnpike.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Ouch, that's a pricey place to be.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          I believe it is the 5th circle of Hell.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            You’ve Got a Friend in Pennsylvania…because he’s indentured there until he pays off his turnpike tolls.

          2. Stuck in California   2 years ago

            Wow, I just realized why the beltway in DC is roughly circular.

  12. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

    shift away from fossil fuels this decade … and to quit adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere entirely by midcentury,

    And billions of people will starve.

    1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

      That *is* the plan.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Has been for some time:
        https://realclimatescience.com/2023/11/un-1991-we-must-eliminate-350000-people-per-day/#gsc.tab=0

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Not even the Nazi's were that ambitious.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Not going to reach the UN/WEF target omelet of 500 million people by 2100, without breaking 7 billion eggs.

    3. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      Feature not bug, to these monsters. The people who will starve are poor and out of sight of the wealthy elite when attended the event.

    4. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      And billions of people will also rebel.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        I mean, ..... hopefully? I wouldn't really bet on it though.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Hopefully. The problem is, do most understand what is actually going on? Is there even a critical mass that understands the issue?

        2. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

          Watching your children starve is a helluva motivator.

          1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

            You would've thought that putting a diaper on your child's face was a motivator too, but people gladly did (and still do).

            1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

              You would’ve thought that putting a diaper on your child’s face was a motivator too, but people gladly did (and still do).

              Sure, but millions of Americans refused diapers and jabs. These Americans are also armed and would kill for their families. Don't expect them to go quietly into the night.

          2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            Pretty sure this will be the next level of virtue signaling for the wokies after chemical/surgical mutilation of their own children.

            Chemjeff approves. As it is more 55 gallon drums of Ben & Jerry’s for him.

        3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          I would. If the French, yellow vests, could muster the fortitude to rebel against these types of laws, it gives me hope.

        4. Randy Sax   2 years ago

          Neither critical mass of understanding, nor motivation are my main concerns. Capability of billions to rebel in the third word, (many of whom are already starving) I think would be the primary roadblock.

        5. R Mac   2 years ago

          https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/how-sri-lankan-protests-unfolded-2022-07-22/

          1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

            Don't forget the Dutch.

            1. tracerv   2 years ago

              You're going to get Nigel Powers worked up.

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        Peole should be rebelling now. Why wait for starvation? The Davos crowd should, be hunted.

    5. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

      And many of those people in our own country are more concerned about not saying anything to upset the people who support their oppressors than avoiding that fate. If the average American had any sense, democrats would be hunted to extinction.

    6. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

      Why has no clandestine service organization, like Mossad, eliminated Klaus Schwab, George Soros, etc.? That would save a lot of lives

  13. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    "so as to achieve net zero by 2050 in keeping with the science."

    "So as to achieve holiness throughout the nation in keeping with scripture."

    The new papal enclaves remind me of the old.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      I love pointing this out to the lefties I know. Throw in some penance comparisons and watch them seethe.

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        Carbon Credits are basically indulgences.

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          Okay, where can we find some climate Wycliffe, Hus and Luthers?

          1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

            And where do we nail the thesis to?

            1. Minadin   2 years ago

              These very cerebral foreheads for starters:

              https://twitter.com/LexitMovement1/status/1735012468693553431

      2. Super Scary   2 years ago

        Recite 20 Hail-Faucis and pray for forgiveness.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Jeffy says the modern world is no longer guided by religious mumbo jumbo.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        But should be by collective consensus.

  14. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

    Covid lockdowns had a 'catastrophic effect' on the UK's social fabric and the most disadvantaged are no better off now than at the time of the financial crash,

    So covid lockdowns were a social justice program designed to bring equity to the disadvantage?

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Equity is always achieved by bringing those who succeed down to the levels of those who don't. See any socialist paradise.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        (Certain successful people will be exempt, of course).

        1. Super Scary   2 years ago

          You were also exempt from the lockdowns if you were protesting the right thing. Hell, protesting the right thing even LOWERS the covid infection count. https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/police-protests-coronavirus-spread/

          1. Eeyore   2 years ago

            It might be true. Doing nothing probably would have lowered the number of covid infections as well.

  15. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Didn't think this would happen to them.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ibm-slapped-federal-civil-rights-complaint-after-racist-ceos-obviously-illegal-hiring

    IBM has been hit with a federal civil rights complaint after James O'Keefe posted video leaked by an insider of CEO and Chairman Arvind Krishna outlining racist business practices.

    "On December 11, 2023, a tape of IBM Chief Executive Officer and Board Chairman Arvind Krishna was released on X.4 In the video, Krishna promises to fire, demote, or deny bonuses to corporate executives who either fail to meet the corporation’s racial and national origin hiring quotas or who hire too many Asian individuals," reads a letter from America First Legal Foundation.

    The letter references the below video of Krishna admitting to using coercion to fire people and reduce their bonuses if they don't discriminate in the hiring process.

    "You got to move both forward by a percentage that leads to a plus on your bonus," Krishna said, referring to hiring hispanics. "and by the way if you lose, you lose part of your bonus."

    He also said that "Asians are not an underrepresented minority in tech in America...I’m not going to finess this, for blacks we should try to get towards 13 percent."

    Meanwhile IBM subsidiary chairman Paul Cormier of Red Hat says in the recording that they've terminated people unwilling to engage in racial discrimination.

    As an aside, this comes as Krishna, a racist, was Reelected as a Class B Director of the New York Fed.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Skin color is the most important thing

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        I thought genital identify was currently more important than color?

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      He also said that “Asians are not an underrepresented minority in tech in America…I’m not going to finess this, for blacks we should try to get towards 13 percent.”

      One of the more interesting aspects of Hollywood propaganda, and this goes back to fucking Die Hard all the way up to that dumb Robyn Hood teevee show, is that your average tech genius character should preferably be black.

      Yet, for all the black people who are actually in the industry, which LOVES to virtue-signal about inclusivity, it's notable that they aren't actually at the forefront of a lot of actual tech innovations. When they're featured, it's mostly about various grifter outreach programs, not technological research and development.

      Ironically, Krishna is basically following a standard EEOC pretense dating back to the 70s that said workforces needed to reflect established ethnic percentages. So him stating that 13% of the company workforce needed to be black made sense in that regard.

      Too bad a similar policy on percantages can't be applied to modern commercial actors.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Yet, for all the black people who are actually in the industry, which LOVES to virtue-signal about inclusivity, it’s notable that they aren’t actually at the forefront of a lot of actual tech innovations. When they’re featured, it’s mostly about various grifter outreach programs, not technological research and development.
        ...
        Too bad a similar policy on percantages can’t be applied to modern commercial actors.

        Whaddyatalkinabout? I'm a member of the tech elite after Amazon gave me this job that I didn't care one wit about until they promised to pay me more to quit working in their warehouse. Now, rather than being just some middle-aged craft Mom designing buttons and flair as a side gig, I'm a fully engaged, highly paid, highly valued part of the highly technical trade of designing UI buttons and flair.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Or the infamous Adria Richards, who worked as a "developer evangelist."

      2. markm23   2 years ago

        "Too bad a similar policy on [percentages] can’t be applied to:"

        ...professional sports. I want to see 5 foot tall Asians playing in the NBA!
        ...TV newscasters. I want to see ugly stutterers reading the news.
        ...Politics. How many autistics should be in Congress? How many with Downs Syndrome? (If you ever voted for Biden or Harris, you can't claim that they are unqualified because of stupidity.)

    3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

      Why do we let these people live?

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        The NAP?

        1. Eeyore   2 years ago

          Anarchists don't necessarily follow the NAP.

    4. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      13%? At IBM that's 37479 employees. Going to be the world's biggest DEI department. I wonder if Herr Krishna, being Asian and all, is going to fire himself?

  16. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Attempting to dismantle the censorship-industrial complex.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ready-rumble-lawsuits-against-censorship-industrial-complex-heat-after-musk-kicks-open

    It took the richest man in the world to begin dismantling the censorship-industrial complex; a tightly connected network of government agencies, think tanks, private media platforms, and activist organizations whose goal is to censor, control, and bankrupt free speech platforms under the guise of battling 'hate speech' and 'misinformation' that run counter to prevailing establishment narratives.

    One of these entities, the Center for Countering Digital Hate, is a dark money organization run by an alleged former British intelligence operative.

    We know all this because just over a year ago, X (formerly Twitter) owner Elon Musk disseminated the "Twitter Files" to a small group of independent journalists, from which we learned that the Biden administration collaborated with Twitter to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story, ban Donald Trump, and that the FBI essentially had its entire arm up Twitter's ass in order to shape and control narratives.

    In August, Musk kicked off what has become several lawsuits against anti-free speech advocates, filing a lawsuit against the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which X has accused of "actively working to assert false and misleading claims encouraging advertisers to pause investment on the platform."

    In October, Consortium News sued NewsGuard - a company which assigns scores to websites alleging to rank their credibility, for "acting jointly or in concert with the United States to coerce news organizations to alter viewpoints" regarding Ukraine, Russia and Syria, and has impsed a form of "censorship and repression of views" that diverge from US policies and those of its allies. The Biden administration was also named as a defendant in the lawsuit.

    Then in November, X filed a lawsuit against Media Matters, after threatening to file a "thermonuclear lawsuit" against the left-leaning activist group "and all those who colluded" with them in a disinformation campaign and advertiser boycott against the social media platform.

    The lawsuit, just filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas Fort Worth Division, alleges the organization's tactics were manipulative and deceptive.

    Last week, the state of Texas, the Daily Wire and The Federalist sued the US State Department for conspiring with Newsguard to censor American media companies, and that the government agency funded censorship technology designed to bankrupt domestic media outlets which have disfavored political opinions.

    On Nov. 30, streaming video platform Rumble sued two liberal activists who they allege worked in conjunction with Media Matters to lie about their source of ad revenues, thereby causing material damage to their reputation, as well as the destruction of more than $185 million from their market cap - despite the fact that Rumble notified them that they were incorrect.

    And so, as the lawsuits against the censorship complex begin to fly, one can't help but feel that the tide may actually be turning - or at least, said censors will think twice before spouting defamatory claims about platforms that allow divergent opinions.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Who gets killed first, musk or trump?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Trump.

        They won't off Musk right now because they need him still. They're more likely to force him to publicly recant if possible.

        Trump, on the other hand, they want dead yesterday.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Trump lost his "made man" status when he went after Obama. Musk hasn't quite gotten to that point because Bob Iger doesn't have those same progressive stack protections, especially after the recent Hollywood strikes, and the US government hasn't found a reliable alternative for his Falcon rockets to get our satellites into space.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      The one against Rumble is notable because they will allow a lot of stuff that the trannie jannies at YouTube will nuke. Twitch, which is notably a tranny streamer haven, was also notably left alone in this little repressive tolerance crusade.

    3. Zeb   2 years ago

      we learned that the Biden administration collaborated with Twitter to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story

      Didn't that happen before there was a Biden administration?

      1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

        It wasn't exactly a one and done thing.

  17. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    The new machine in town.

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago-teachers-union-affiliates-biggest-spenders-on-chicago-politics/

    After the Chicago Teachers Union and its allies paid Brandon Johnson’s way through the Chicago mayoral election in February, the Chicago Tribune’s editorial board asked, “Is the Chicago Teachers Union the new machine?”

    If campaign spending on Chicago politicians is any indication, the answer is an unequivocal yes.

    CTU and its state and national affiliates – the Illinois Federation of Teachers and the American Federation of Teachers – spent nearly $6.5 million on Chicago mayoral, city council, city clerk and city treasurer candidates between Feb. 28, 2022, and May 4, 2023.

    That makes CTU and its affiliates the largest spenders on Chicago politics.

    Johnson’s deep ties to CTU should worry Chicagoans. Johnson, a former “legislative coordinator” for CTU, will be sitting across the table from his former CTU colleagues when they negotiate a new contract in 2024. Their tight relationship effectively places CTU on both sides of the bargaining table.

    CTU’s political spending should also worry its own members. Among other poor financial decisions, the union spent nearly three times more on politics in 2023 than the year before, yet just 17% of its spending was on representing teachers. It also ran its first deficit budget since it started filing reports with the U.S. Department of Labor. It has since raised dues on its members by 13%.

  18. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    AI applications are cool, but this news channel doesn't look very good

    Good enough for porn.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Digital manipulation

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Either way, with AI, I know it when I see it.
        🙂
        😉

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "Digital manipulation"

        All ten of them.

    2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      Artificial Insertion?

  19. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Voting for the system that milks and bilks you.

    https://johnkassnews.com/there-are-no-victims-of-the-system/

    “I was hysterical,” Lisa Markiewicz told ABC-7 News recently. “Are we going to lose our house? What do we do? How do we stop this? We worked hard to get here.”

    Markiewicz lives in the Cook County portion of Tinley Park, one of the areas comprising this year’s triennial county property tax reassessment. She was hit with a 210% increase in the assessed valuation of her home in a county where any talk of rising home values in the actual marketplace is properly treated as gallows humor.

    During the 1970 Illinois Constitutional Convention, like cat burglars in the night, Chicago Democrat shot callers quietly seized the homes of Cook County families to use as collateral to finance the seven-figure net present value, defined-benefit pensions they guaranteed for their political warriors in the public sector unions.

    They have been slowly liquidating people’s homes through confiscatory property taxes ever since.

    “The system is broken,” said Markiewicz.

    No.

    To paraphrase what I once said about the entire State of Illinois, Cook County isn’t broken. It’s fixed.

    The System is producing exactly what those in charge desire.

    In 1972, two years after the new state constitution, the longest-serving state House Speaker in American history, Mike Madigan, founded his property tax appeals law firm, Madigan & Getzendanner.

    Therefore, getting back to poor Lisa Markewicz of Tinley Park, we should all feel great empathy for her and her neighbors and bring down fiery condemnation on the longevity lords of The System, right?

    Not exactly.

    At some point over the past five decades, this stopped being a story of politicians fleecing their constituents and became a story about the residents of Cook County and ultimately greater Chicagoland playing Patty Hearst to the Chicago Democrats’ Symbionese Liberation Army.

    Madigan and Burke were getting property tax relief in the billions for their corporate clients while Joe Punchclock and Sally Housecoat saw the property taxes on their bungalow launched upward like a Space X satellite.

    Yet, Joe & Sally threw in with Madigan & Burke. They didn’t question the local government school superintendent’s salary. They didn’t question K12 spending at all, in fact, even up against student achievement. And they certainly didn’t question the innumerable sweeteners and other pension manipulations by the public sector unions. Further, they punished anyone who did.

    Just as in “1984,” the Joes & Sallys took the political lords’ anthem of deceit, injustice and betrayal that was dressed up in high-minded antonyms. And they made that anthem their own.

    Now that the Joes & Sallys are being done in by The System they propagated, they cry out for help.

    The two longevity lords who bilked tens, maybe hundreds, of millions of dollars out of The System are going to spend their 80s, or whatever time they have left in federal prison. Appearances must be maintained by The System at the federal level too.

    And Lisa Markiewicz and the rest of Chicagoland’s Joes & Sallys will continue to be whittled down to nothing by The System they spent their adult lives serving.

    1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      I know a white woman,married to a black man, who lives in a black neighborhood in South side Chicago. She was complaining about her recent reassessment and tax bill increase. Yearly she'll pay three hundred and 50 dollars.

  20. Super Scary   2 years ago

    ""Covid lockdowns had a 'catastrophic effect' on the UK's social fabric and the most disadvantaged are no better off now than at the time of the financial crash, a new report claims," per The Guardian."

    I guess the media fully dropped the "lockdowns didn't actually happen" thing. That's good, it didn't really have that much traction anyway and it's a better idea to wait a bit before gaslighting everyone.

  21. Sevo   2 years ago

    "...The resolution calls for "transitioning away from fossil fuels … in a just, orderly and equitable manner … so as to achieve net zero by 2050 in keeping with the science."..."

    Science is a process; it requires theorical claims, which are then tested and found to be true or false. If they are true, they advance knowledge in that field.
    So far, in the 30 years of whining about 'the climate', not one single specific prediction has been found to be true.
    This is not science, this is a post-mosaic religion, and I'm an atheist.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      This is not science, this is a post-mosaic religion, and I’m an atheist.

      Heretic.

      You are not allowed to be an atheist to the climate change cult.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Even worse, you could be named a “denier”.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Heh. Been there, done that, got the fucking T-shirt. Why? Because I've dared to question their models in the past; note the omission of the Roman Warm Period, Medieval Warm Period, and Little Ice Age in their data; and point out to them the concentrations of CO2 found in the geologic record that are substantially higher than current.

    2. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      a single failed prediction is enough to prove a hypothesis false.

      Ken Ribet predicted, under the hypothesis that Fermat's Last Theorem is false, that immodular semistable elliptic curves existed. When Andrew Wiles proved that all semistable elliptic curves are modular, that was enough to show that Fermat's Last Theorem is true.

      UNEP published a theorem showing that climate change would result in 50 million climate refugees by 2010.

      https://ethicsalarms.com/2011/04/17/global-warming-advocates-flunk-ethics-and-credibility-again/

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Except Ken Ribet was correct that IF Fermat's last theorem is false, then the other stuff follows.
        Scientific theories (there are no theorems in science) that fail are just wrong.

    3. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      Not to mention that science and politics shouldn't mix. Even if/when "The Science" is correct politicians have no business using it to further their own agendas.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Our generated anchors deliver stories that are informative, heartfelt and entertaining.

    Skynet is your trusted source for news.

  23. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    It's wild how there's an entire planning consulting industry that basically exists to help California cities subvert state housing law.

    No, it's not that wild at all.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The resolution calls for "transitioning away from fossil fuels … in a just, orderly and equitable manner … so as to achieve net zero by 2050 in keeping with the science."

    Nice try. We have 12 years to save the planet and that was six years ago.

    1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      The Ghost of Climate Change Furture.

      https://www.flickr.com/photos/66890686@N02/51686573242/in/dateposted-public/

  25. Sevo   2 years ago

    "San Francisco Supervisor Dean Preston—who represents District 5, which encompasses the Tenderloin—says the homelessness problem is "absolutely the result of capitalism." He blamed landlords and downplayed issues with drug use and psychosis."

    AFAICT, there is not one single elected official in the SF city government who has ever held a real job; one where your performance (or lack thereof) can get you fired. Let alone managed any sort of business whatsoever.
    Preston's concept of capitalism came from Disney comic books with Scrouge McDuck swimming it a pool full of gold coins.

    1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      From Wiki
      "Personal life
      Preston is married.[1] He and his wife live in a single family house in the Alamo Square neighborhood in San Francisco.[1] He has been on the board of the Alamo Square Neighborhood Association.[92] In the early 2000s, he worked to stop fast-food franchises such as Burger King and Domino's from moving into Alamo Square.[92] Preston’s house is worth $2.7 million, the most of any supervisor, and he owns stock shares valued between $400,000 and $4 million in Apple, Microsoft, IBM and Cisco"

      A regular Nieman-Marxist.

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        But he hasn't forgotten the little people. He cares. He's often heard promoting that they be fed cake.

  26. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The GOP has been divided over how to extend section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

    Not if? That would be nice.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      You can't repeal without a replacement plan. Do you even Read the articles?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        WHO WILL PAY FOR THESE TAX CUTS?

  27. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    San Francisco Supervisor Dean Preston—who represents District 5, which encompasses the Tenderloin—says the homelessness problem is "absolutely the result of capitalism." He blamed landlords and downplayed issues with drug use and psychosis.

    Now you know why San Francisco won't solve it's homelessness problem with wonky tweaks to zoning.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      You have to love how his argument goes:
      a) The homelessness problem is obviously the fault of his ideological enemies.
      b) It's not even really a problem, actually.

      What's next? c) Here's why it's a good thing: ?

      "Yeah, I mean, I don't even think it's a problem, but if you do, then it's clearly the other guy's fault." "Yeah, the guy who hasn't been in charge here in 60, 75 years."

  28. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...a toll schedule that will charge the average driver $15 to enter lower Manhattan during peak times...

    Making allowances of course for times when roads are blocked for the latest DEI soyboy cuck fad.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      The BLM banner on 5th Avenue is still closed.

  29. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    This is like the Oscars for Journalists.

  30. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...as the first steps in President Javier Milei's shock-therapy program...

    Does he not know that the first thing you do when entering office is deploy the diversity zampolits to all federal agencies and the second thing you do is exactly the same thing your predecessors did?

  31. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Covid lockdowns had a 'catastrophic effect' on the UK's social fabric and the most disadvantaged are no better off now than at the time of the financial crash...

    In other news, the deadliest strain of COVID is being reported next door to you and is killing your neighbors. Drastic measures are needed.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      Not close enough to the election yet.

  32. HALTheLibertarian   2 years ago

    Reposting this again... All Things Considered, unreleased interview with the Reason crew... WITH SPECIAL CAMEO!

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      Which Reason staffer are you?

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Staffer: Yes sir. I’ll spam the unreleased Reason editors interview in the comments section.

  33. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...Harvard had been investigating plagiarism allegations against its president, Claudine Gay, for some time now.

    Ask the Egyptian air force how devastating the Jews' preemptive strikes can be.

  34. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Right on cue, caring about plagiarism has been added to the "white supremacist agenda".

    Goddamn this is fun.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      Harvard tried to claim that she forgot to use quotation marks in 2 instances and had 2 more instances of 'improper citations'. In just 2 papers.

      When in fact what the Post was investigating was 27 instances of direct plagiarism across several peer-reviewed published academic papers and at least one magazine article over a 24-year period.

  35. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    At Columbia, students seem to think they can go on tuition strike with no consequences.

    I'm assuming they're right.

  36. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    At Brown, meanwhile, 41 students were arrested and booked earlier this week for a sit-in at which they demanded an Israel-Hamas ceasefire.

    Do they not offer any electives that teach how the world works? I don't recall being an infant when I was in college.

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "Do they not offer any electives that teach how the world works?"

      I think them getting arrested for protesting is their first lesson.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        That is part of civil disobedience.

  37. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    He blamed landlords and downplayed issues with drug use and psychosis.

    I certainly would hope an official in San Francisco would have exactly this level of understanding of basic economics.

  38. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    It's wild how there's an entire planning consulting industry that basically exists to help California cities subvert state housing law.

    I'm sure their lobbyists are very good at creating that housing law.

  39. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    San Francisco Supervisor Dean Preston—who represents District 5, which encompasses the Tenderloin—says the homelessness problem is "absolutely the result of capitalism." He blamed landlords and downplayed issues with drug use and psychosis.

    It's the landlords' fault... in a city where the landlords have almost no control or oversight of their own properties.

  40. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    "Argentina devalued the peso by 54%, overhauled its crawling peg and announced massive spending cuts to eliminate its primary fiscal deficit next year as the first steps in President Javier Milei's shock-therapy program," reports Bloomberg.

    Another beauty:

    On his first day of office, newly elected Libertarian President Javier Milei cut the number of Argentina government ministries in half

    Dude cut more actual government spending in 24 hours than the entire GOP establishment has managed to accomplish in the last 60 years, including that dumb "Women, Genders, and Diversity" office that was probably a sop for WEF good boi points. Those jobbers can't even get a single cabinet department slashed.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      So far, I'm impressed enough. I wouldn't mind seeing something happen like that here.

      1. Roberta   2 years ago

        What, you mean 130% inflation so you could then have someone come in to stop it?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          We already have high inflation. That said, I'd love to see the federal agencies and departments either whittled down or eliminated altogether.

        2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

          What? The shit show we got in, and emanating from D.C. isn't a problem?

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      This guy is a super hero

    3. Roberta   2 years ago

      I'm sure the same institutional factors that allowed Argentina to get into so much trouble also allow them to get out of it quickly. I wouldn't wish it.

    4. Chumby   2 years ago

      Hope he has someone taste his food before he eats.

  41. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    At Columbia, students seem to think they can go on tuition strike with no consequences.

    Didn't the Biden administration strike on their behalf?

  42. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    San Francisco Supervisor Dean Preston—who represents District 5, which encompasses the Tenderloin—says the homelessness problem is "absolutely the result of capitalism." He blamed landlords and downplayed issues with drug use and psychosis.

    There is no free market for housing, so I have no idea how it can be the fault of capitalism. There is strict government interference and regulation in what you can do with housing, how it can be built, where it can be built, what criteria it needs to adhere to. And beyond that, they've made being a landlord so unappealing that it's very difficult to profit from. If you have a non-paying tenant, you can't evict them. You have to continue providing services and utilities to that tenant.

    You don't have control over your own property because the government tells you that you simply CAN'T do what you with it. That poor tenant who is being actively destructive to the property, who is creating noxious odors, who isn't paying you, and who is a drain on your resources, THEY have property interests in your property. Oh, sure, it's probably your fault for renting to them, despite the fact that you only let them rent because you were forced to meet a specific quota.

    Government poisons your crops, burns down your barn, shoots your milk cow, releases toxins into your well, and steals all your chickens, then says, "SEE, we TOLD you that you weren't doing agriculture right!"

    1. Eeyore   2 years ago

      Fascism could be to blame, which is capitalism adjacent.

  43. Roberta   2 years ago

    For those not entering via bridge or tunnel, how, technically, is the CBD entering-or-remaining toll going to be billed?

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Plate scanners is one way.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      If I recall correctly, electronic toll gates like those found on various tollways (example from Singapore on a city street: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_toll_collection#/media/File:ERPBugis.JPG) will be installed just south of 60th Street in Manhattan. Electronic toll gates will also be installed on the currently free bridges such as the Brooklyn Bridge, Manhattan Bridge, and Williamsburg Bridge. The wild card is the Queensboro Bridge which enters Manhattan at 60th Street. The tolls will be collected via EZ Pass (and compatible systems like SunPass Pro).

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        I hope the businesses and restaurants are prepared for the "fuck that I'm staying in the suburbs" decline in revenue.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          I'm willing to wager that that will be the case. Or the, "fuck it, I'm staying in Brooklyn/Queens/Staten Island/Bronx" factor too. They'll get the full charge as well for driving into Manhattan south of 60th Street.

  44. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>At Columbia, students seem to think they can go on tuition strike with no consequences.

    I have worked with exactly one person who attended Columbia, and exactly one person who thought enough of herself she threw a 3-ring binder at me and believed it appropriate office behavior.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Oh yeah? Happy Gilmore took off his skate and tried to stab a guy with it.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        are you watching the new season of Fargo? efficient use of skate as weapon in the first episode.

    2. tracerv   2 years ago

      This sounds like a great story. What lead up to the throw?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        literally (and millenialliterally) asked her to do "a favor for me" that was already part of her job and made completion of my job impossible. I don't think she liked me as a person which was totally on her I'm awesome.

  45. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>And even more on double standards for university presidents in the era of wokeness:

    I assume the early days of the Colosseum were confusing to attendants as well.

    1. Eeyore   2 years ago

      Especially the participants.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        exactly.

  46. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    "The sweeping agreement, which comes during the hottest year in recorded history, was reached on Wednesday," reports The New York Times

    I wonder if the Newspaper of Record (TM) ever feels embarrassed by their evolution into cheerleaders for Our Democracy (TM) instead of actually, you know, investigative journalism?

  47. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    "Johnson had been intending to see which bill garnered more support among his party and send that one to the Senate. This plan fell apart."

    Where's the hard-hitting investigative journalism that explains HOW "this plan fell apart?" If Johnson pulled both bills from the floor to promote the default position of sunsetting Section 702 that's a good sign. If he pulled both bills so he could broker a behind-the-scenes deal that violates his promise to open debate in the House on controversial issues, then it would be a very discouraging step back to the Imperial Speakership.

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      Probably the latter, but at least the former is a small possibility, unlike the last speaker.

  48. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    The absolute state of academia, Brooks Simpson edition:

    "So let me get this straight:
    Republicans assault a President who cares about his son, claiming there's more to be seen there...
    ...but support a man who cheats on his wives, dumps on his sons, and wants to date his oldest daughter.
    And they are the traditional values party?"

    Yeah, Brooks, nothing says "traditional values" like enabling your crackhead son's destructive habits, including fucking your dead son's wife and being a deadbeat dad. And pointing that out is "assaulting" the President, as if he wasn't a shit-talking asshole himself who claimed voting for Romney would put black people back in chains.

    But then, your side always was inordinately proud of its own social degeneracy.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      the trope that Trump wants to date his own daughter is even more absurd than the "nazis are fine people" hoax. Just ridiculous

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        And this same tard will parse every utterance of his political opponents for the slightest inaccuracy.

      2. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        She has the biggest tits, America's tits, very patriotic. China has been killing us in the tits department. Vote for me to bring back America's tradition of... tits. In 2024 we will grab Joe Biden by his bussy. Very bigly. America first.

      3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "the trope that Trump wants to date his own daughter is even more absurd"

        It's the hypocrisy of it all that really makes me shake my head. I watched the clip. Trump was bragging about how good looking his kid was. He didn't want to date her. It was obvious to everyone who watched it.

        Meanwhile, point out that Joe Biden's daughter actually wrote that her Dad was always trying to take showers with her that she called "inappropriate", and that she would avoid taking showers when he was around, and these same idiots lose their minds.

  49. a.heroic.dose   2 years ago

    Gotta love how the only mention of the currently ongoing war crimes against civilians in Gaza is about arrests of college students conducting sit-in protests. I thought, generally speaking, that libertarians understand war to be a racket and a mass murder project of the state. Shame on you Reason, shame. Liz, you have kids. You don't feel any kind of way about what's happening to the kids over there? Your kids don't have to live on a starvation plus diet and worry about US made rockets coming to join you in the living room. You're good, they're good, maybe spare the innocents a thought?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      I told you yesterday to take the heroic dose, you simple simon gorilla.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "ongoing war crimes against civilians in Gaza"

      Oh?
      Like what?

      No photos of crying women pretending toy dolls are dead babies, or the same kid in five different hospitals faking five different injuries either please, but real stuff.

      Like abducting a peace rave attendee, raping her to death and parading her corpse through the streets. Stuff like that.

  50. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    At Columbia, students seem to think they can go on tuition strike with no consequences. At Brown, meanwhile, 41 students were arrested and booked earlier this week for a sit-in at which they demanded an Israel-Hamas ceasefire.

    Proof of the horrible double standards that are always facing Brown student bodies.

  51. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

    Russia invading a threat which was killing ethnic Russians is bad..Israel invading land and continuing to occupy land and denying the occupied natural rights is good. Interesting how the neocons and their allies the Israeli lobby and US media look at this...

    "If we dont' stop them here..." sure corn pop and nuland/kaganovich....Eastern Europe will fall like a set of dominos and Russian Tanks will be crossing the Rhine on the way to Paris. JC how stupid are people. Deport all the neocons....like Italian Mafia bosses who were deported back to Italy, deport them back to Ukraine, Russia, Vienna where ever the hell their commie ancestors came from.

  52. Simon Goodfellow04   2 years ago

    Thank you for starting my day with some-much-needed humor!

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