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Congress

Playing Chicken

Plus: University reckoning, climate-grief vasectomies, Chinese garlic, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 12.8.2023 9:32 AM

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Gifts for Putin? "Republicans in Congress are willing to give Putin the greatest gift he could hope for," said President Joe Biden this week, in response to fiscal conservatives holding up a spending package that would dole out $110 billion in funding for Ukraine.

Republicans are saying that addressing the situation at the southern border is a necessary prerequisite, something that Biden must prioritize if he wants Ukraine aid approved. Biden said his political opponents, in opposing that massive chunk of government spending, "are playing chicken with our national security" but that he is also interested in "mak[ing] significant compromises on the border," if that's what is deemed necessary to get Ukraine money approved.

"Biden now faces a difficult choice about how much to throw himself into talks on an issue that for decades has defied efforts to reach bipartisan compromise," reports The New York Times. "And he will have to decide how far to go in giving in to conservative demands that he substantially choke off the number of migrants admitted to the United States while their asylum claims are considered."

It's a shame there are so few legitimately principled fiscal conservatives in Congress; holding up one form of spending to get another type greenlit is a time-honored tradition, but not one that truly dials back government spending.

Congressional testimony fallout: After the presidents of Harvard, the University of Pennsylvania, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology all testified in front of Congress earlier this week on the issue of antisemitism on campus, the board of Penn's business school, Wharton, is calling on President Liz Magill to resign.

It's crazy that the free speech hypocrisy on elite campuses has gone on for this long and gotten this bad. High-up university donors and governing bodies should have probably pushed for cleaning house long ago, and more forcefully communicated opposition to the imposition of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) bureaucracies, campus speaker shout downs, and the like.

Meanwhile, the mainstream media treatment of the issue has changed quite a bit over the last few days.

Difference between Day 1 and Day 2 Coverage of the same event by the NYT. What happened in the meantime? I mean the NYT saw the event unspool, and initially thought it was parrying not dodging. pic.twitter.com/R2EiIcFscQ

— Mike Pesca (@pescami) December 7, 2023

The distinction made between conduct and speech by all three presidents remains largely correct. University administrators should push for and enforce policies that are broadly speech-permissive. It's just that there's a hollowness to this being their stance now after years of skirting this commitment.

"What does it mean to make Jewish students feel safe on campus? One way would be to crack down on anti-Israel rhetoric that might make many Jews feel threatened. That would be consistent with the methods universities have sometimes employed to protect other minority groups," writes Intelligencer's Jonathan Chait. "But it would also be deeply illiberal."

"When elite university presidents claim that even hateful speech should enjoy ironclad protection on college campuses, they are absolutely correct," writes Reason's Robby Soave. "But if they are asserting that speech characterized as hateful currently enjoys ironclad protection on their campuses, they are blind."


Scenes from New York: Enjoyed chatting with Matt Taibbi on camera last night (possible Reason video forthcoming) at his provocatively-titled event "Hey, Haters: Come to Argue about Free Speech and Censorship in Park Slope." People were mostly sensible Taibbi superfans concerned by the government jawboning of social media companies.

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  1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

    "Today, at ReaSalon Magazine..."

    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      Biden said his political opponents, in opposing that massive chunk of government spending, "are playing chicken with our national security"

      How dare those evil Republicans play chicken with our national security by demanding actual national security?!

      Does Biden remember which country he is president of?

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Chicken Kiev

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          Current day: Chicken Kyifffuh

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Tucker reported that Lloyd Austin threatened to send Americans to war if Ukraine didn't get another hand out.

        Tucker Carlson
        @TuckerCarlson
        The Biden administration is openly threatening Americans over Ukraine. In a classified briefing in the House yesterday, defense secretary Lloyd Austin informed members that if they don’t appropriate more money for Zelensky, “we’ll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia.” Pay the oligarchs or we’ll kill your kids.

        A few other outlets have others in the Biden administration making the same claims.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Those warmongering Democrats are free to head there now and volunteer for the Ukrainian foreign legion. They should take the neocon Republicans with them.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Democrats were just as annoying but easier to ignore when they chanted for peace at all costs in all situations.

            1. damikesc   2 years ago

              As was said at the time...they were never anti-war.

              They were always pro-the other side.

        2. mad.casual   2 years ago

          The idea that you'll force other people to defeat your enemies for you at the point of a gun, especially people who overwhelmingly don't like you, is always an interesting idea.

          Did I say interesting? I meant stupid.

          1. damikesc   2 years ago

            Hey...at least there are no mean tweets, amirite?

        3. swillfredo pareto   2 years ago

          Lloyd Austin informed [House] members...if they don’t appropriate more money for Zelensky, “we’ll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia.”

          Assuming this is true, I would advise that bloodthirsty sack of shit to go say that to Cindy Sheehan's face. She was the face of Austin's and Biden's party when the R's were fucking things up militarily.

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            Democrat ant-war activists aren’t ant-war, they’re anti-Republican war. Remember all the big ant- war protests during Obama’s 8 years? Me neither.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Keep in mind, this is the same fuckwad that got caught flat-footed by ISIS when he was commander of CENTCOM, telling Obama that they were the "jv team" compared to al-Qaeda, and then got stun-locked during press conferences during the Afghanistan withdrawal.

            The asshole is the epitome of a diversity hire, and has been his whole fucking career.

        4. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

          Sexists! They should send the aunts and daughters, too.

      3. Dillinger   2 years ago

        >>Does Biden remember which country he is president of?

        No.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          Oh. Right. Fuck.

      4. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        But is it Garlic chicken?

      5. mamabug   2 years ago

        I am legit confused over what seems excessive support for Ukraine. At this point, I can only conclude that Zelensky is holding receipts on the corruption of a significant number of US and Western European politicians.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

          There’s no need to be confused. Zelensky is our puppet and allows American oligarchs and politicians to run graft and bribery deals in the country.

          If Russia beats Ukraine, they’ll put in THEIR puppet to allow Russian oligarchs and commissars to run graft and bribery deals in the country.

          Neocon dumbasses like Patterico and the Dispatch crowd can pretend all they want that this is about some noble purpose, but it really isn’t.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            This sums up nicely how blinkered and stupid these people are:

            Patterico
            @Patterico
            Yet another reason today's GOP is repulsive.

            Quote
            Jennifer Griffin
            @JenGriffinFNC
            21h
            Update: Russia fires cruise missiles at Kyiv for first time in nearly three months as Putin allies on Russian State TV praise Congress for not passing Ukraine aid.
            9:48 PM · Dec 8, 2023

            Yeah, Patrick, you warmongering sack of monkey shit--not funding your side's dumb forever wars is the reason today's GOP is repulsive, which is why you're a Democrat now.

    2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      Republicans are saying that addressing the situation at the southern border is a necessary prerequisite, something that Biden must prioritize if he wants Ukraine aid approved

      Sounds like Democrats are holding up Ukraine funding to spite any effort to secure our borders.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        ^

      2. BYODB   2 years ago

        It's also a tacit admission that other nations borders are somehow more important to our national security than our own borders.

        Certainly Mexico or Canada isn't an outright adversary of the United States, but Mexico also doesn't give much of a fuck who crosses the U.S. border from their side either so relying on them for 'national security' is stupid at best.

        What is weird is that the border is pretty much the one issue Democrats don't want to throw near infinite amounts of money at when that's their go-to solution to just about every other problem imaginable.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          Ukraine is allowed to have borders. The US isn't.

          (Apparently.)

  2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

    Another far right conservative shooting up synagogues while yelling free palestine.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/12/shots-fired-at-albany-ny-synagogue-suspect-shouted-free-palestine/

    The entire string of shootings this week must have made shrike mad. He couldn't use a single one.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

      Chemjeff and Buttplug warned us!

      Just last weekend Chemjeff pointed out that a GOP state funder had dinner with an impolitic minor podcaster who’d once been accused of antisemitism by Media Matters. And Buttplug noted criticizing George Soros was worse than Hitler.

      Now look what’s happening. Jewish shops getting their windows broken, assaults (and one murder) of Jews for being Jewish, marches calling for the elimination of the Jews, top university presidents saying they’re cool with calls for the same, and synagogues getting shot up.

      That darned MAGA!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        But no tiki torches, so there!

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Not a single super fit white guy in khakis and $100 sunglasses. FBI take the week off?

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Yep, definitely a far-right conservative.

      https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/mufid-fawaz-alkhader-heads-court-temple-israel-18541327.php

      Mufid Fawaz Alkhader, a U.S. citizen who was born in Iraq, allegedly told members of the Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms, Tobacco & Explosives task force that “events in the Middle East have impacted him,” according to a criminal complaint filed by an Albany detective who is a member of the ATF task force.

      Alkhader, a resident of Schenectady, allegedly shouted “Free Palestine” during the incident, according to city police and a person briefed on the matter. It's unclear whether he said that while being arrested or when he fired the weapon — or both.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Damn those far right white christian nationalist Muslims.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          Was he transphobic too?

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        One of the 10% of Democrats.

    3. Ben of Houston   2 years ago

      Unfortunately, I must ask you to add something explicit, such as a "sarc" tag or to present this "modestly" to let us know more explicitly that you are being satirical. Because if I didn't know your writing personally, I couldn't tell.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Meh. If someone is new here and accuses me ill let them know. Hate the /s nomenclature on everything.

      2. Azathoth!!   2 years ago

        Unfortunately, I must ask you to add something explicit, such as a “sarc” tag or to present this “modestly” to let us know more explicitly that you are being satirical. Because if I didn’t know your writing personally, I couldn’t tell.

        Taffaard.

        It ain't satire if you paint the word 'satire' in giant letters over top of it.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          I swear to fuck someone needs to come up with a sarcasm font for the internet.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...he is also interested in "mak[ing] significant compromises on the border," if that's what is deemed necessary to get Ukraine money approved.

    That excuse to deal with a problem a lot of democrat voters are concerned with is a gift to Biden.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    It's crazy that the free speech hypocrisy on elite campuses has gone on for this long and gotten this bad.

    When you exist in a bubble of your own making...

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      And that bubble includes cannibals who had been satisfied with victims you didn't care about, but now show up at your place for dinner.

  5. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Gaza woman informs reporter that Hamas has always stolen foreign aid.

    Yonatan Gonen

    @GonenYonatan
    A must watch:
    A Gazan woman surprises Al Jazeera reporter and tells him that Hamas is taking all the humanitarian aid to its terrorists in the tunnels. The reporter tries to convince her otherwise but she continues to attack Hamas.
    (Video)
    @MOhadIsrael

    https://twitter.com/GonenYonatan/status/1732514165984518175

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      The reporter tries to convince her otherwise

      Goddamn. Leftism is a death cult.

      LibsofTikTok videos are the creepiest shit ever regarding Hamas and Americans.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        We need to convince the liberal death cult that it's time for Kool Aid.

    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

      Is that reporter mtrueman?

      1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

        Did you see yesterday, I misspelled Goebbels name and he corrected me and then went on to actual state Goering was his favorite Nazi? Oh, and condemning neocons and calling out the blatant antisemitism is the true Anti-semitism per his post. Who the fuck has a favorite Nazi?

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

          Nope, missed that one. He must buy clown paint by the barrel.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

          Who the fuck has a favorite Nazi?

          Misconstrueman, as we learned yesterday. I'm certain Misek and Sqrlsy do too. Maybe Jeffy has one?

        3. mamabug   2 years ago

          Who the fuck has a favorite Nazi?

          People who didn't know pop-pop had a past?

          1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

            Okay that's good

          2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

            We would also accept the Canadian Parliament.

          3. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

            You know who else had a favorite nazi?

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              Eva Braun?

            2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

              David Duke?

            3. Chumby   2 years ago

              Rob’s best friend?

            4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Chemjeff?

    3. BYODB   2 years ago

      See, I'd have thought that the response from an even moderately intelligent journalist would have been more like a long drawn out 'Duuuhhhhhh' to that quote.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Good reporters tell, not listen.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    High-up university donors and governing bodies should have probably pushed for cleaning house long ago...

    They have their own social circles to contend with.

  7. Minadin   2 years ago

    Gifts for Putin? That's nothing.

    Wait till you hear what Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin had to say:

    "US defense secretary told House members their "uncles, cousins and sons" would be sent to fight Russia if they don't send more money to Ukraine"

    https://notthebee.com/article/tucker-carlson-says-us-defense-secretary-told-house-members-their-uncles-cousins-and-sons-would-be-sent-to-fight-russia-if-they-dont-send-more-money-to-ukraine-

    1. Chumby   2 years ago (edited)

      Their MIC masters have a huge warboner they want to stick somewhere.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

        Slow rolling war with the world’s largest nuclear weapons holder is always a dumb place to stick it.

        Doesn’t a less dangerous target like Micronesia or Uruguay need some extra freedom?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          It is worse when that conflict is on that nation’s border, many people in the contested area look east, and thousands opposing the western hegemony had been killed in a campaign of genocide prior to the west breaking its agreements.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Looks like Lloyd has some un-mansplaining to do.

    3. Krokko   2 years ago

      Those fully equal women getting a pass...

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        Do trans-women get a pass on the draft?

        Klinger was only going for a Section 8.

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          The best thing about MASH was how when they needed to get something done, they gave it to the E-4s, first Radar and then Klinger. One of the most true things ever in a military focused show.

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      these fucking ghouls will not be satisfied until there's a billion dead.

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        I think you're underestimating them. They want the world pop under 1 billion total. For the planet.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          “I HOPE THE DEPOPULATION WILL OCCUR IN A CIVIL AND PEACEFUL WAY”
          Dennis Meadows…www.weforum.org/people/dennis-meadows

    5. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      White House official John Kirby had said that 'American blood' will be the cost of supporting Volodymyr Zelenskyy if no money is sent to Kyiv.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        This is just further evidence that the Ukrainians are at the end of their rope. These are the smuggest motherfuckers on the planet, and there's no way they'd be acting this desperate and hysterical if things were going well or if Ukraine was at least holding serve.

        It doesn't help that their puppet indefinitely suspended the election, as much of a tell that his support at home is in the toilet as anything.

  8. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Irregularities in the cleanest elections ever have had multiple instances of elections being overturned by judges this year. Most of the findings showing the same faults regarding mail in ballots claimed to be problems in 2020.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/election-irregularities-and-fraud-led-courts-overturning-ordering-new

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      No widespread fraud.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Just Move On.

        1. Quo Usque Tandem   2 years ago

          Or we will call you "Klinger." Minus the dress, because only thoughtful liberals are trans.

        2. Minadin   2 years ago

          .org?

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Dems got too bold and started using the same tactics against each other in primaries.

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          Primaries are where they've been practicing, refining, and perfecting the fraud, for decades.

          https://www.stlamerican.com/news/local_news/judge-orders-re-do-in-st-louis-city-election-between-bruce-franks-and-penny-hubbard/article_9bafdd92-7186-11e6-839f-7351f7fe11cb.html

          "The St. Louis Post-Dispatch conducted a scathing investigation, where it found several issues within the St. Louis absentee voting process. One man told Post-Dispatch that people working for Penny Hubbard’s campaign came to his house days before the election asking him to sign something. The man claimed he did not know what it was and was shocked when Post-Dispatch showed him a copy of his absentee application that had handwriting that wasn’t his and checked off that he was with the democratic party when he is really with the Green Party."

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

            They’ve been doing it, at least in Illinois, in the general elections as well. From the 1982 Illinois gubernatorial race:

            https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-chicago

            In 1982, Illinois was the setting for “a hotly con­tested” gubernatorial race between Democratic Senator Adlai Stevenson III, son of former governor and presidential hopeful Adlai Stevenson II, and Republican James Thompson.[4] “Big Jim” Thomp­son, the incumbent, was “a 15-point favorite going into the voting”;[5] and yet on election day, Adlai Stevenson came within 5,074 votes of capturing the governorship out of 3.67 million votes cast statewide-a 0.14 percent margin.[6] Stevenson had carried Chicago by 3 to 1, with a winning margin of 469,000 votes, although Thompson won 60 percent of the vote in the rest of the state.[7]

            After the results were in, Stevenson immediately filed suit, contesting the results of the election and asking for a recount. He conceded defeat only when the Illinois Supreme Court two months later rejected his request for a statewide recount.[8]

            Stevenson claimed there was evidence of voter fraud in areas of the state outside of Chicago. Although those claims “did not pan out,” it was clear that “the prospect of a close [judicial] look at the conduct of voting in Chicago did not please many of Chicago’s Democratic kingpins, already under pressure because of the federal [criminal] investigation of charges of vote fraud in the [1982] election.…” For that reason, “many committeemen privately had expressed a hope that Stevenson would lose his bid for a recount.”[9]

            Both campaigns had complained to the FBI, but the federal investigation was really sparked by a party worker from Chicago’s 39th Ward who was upset by his precinct captain’s broken promise to award him a city job for his participation in the vote fraud. The worker told a Chicago newspaper, and then the FBI and the U.S. Attorney’s Office, “what he knew about vote fraud in that precinct.”[10]

            Good reporting by the local media helped fuel the investigation. One wire story concerned “a man listed as voting at a Skid Row precinct in the 27th Ward [who] had been dead for more than two years.” He was listed as living at the Arcade Hotel, and his signature was among those of 47 other voters listed as living at the hotel. However, the “[o]perators and residents of the hotel told the Sun-Times that 41 of the 47 people did not reside at the Arcade.”[11]

            In its reporting, the Chicago Tribune discovered that the supposed home address of three voters in the 17th Precinct of the 27th Ward was a vacant lot. The paper also discovered that votes had been cast for seven residents of a nursing home who denied having voted-their signatures on the ballot applications were all forgeries. In fact, one resident had no fingers or thumbs with which to write a sig­nature.[12] The fraud was so blatant that the resident without fingers or thumbs “was counted as having voted twice by the end of the day.”[13] Not surpris­ingly, Stevenson easily won the 17th Precinct, by a margin of 282 to 30.[14]

            These stories illustrated what was to be a recur­ring theme in the grand jury investigation: the theft of identities and the casting of fraudulent votes on behalf of dead voters, prison inmates, and people who had moved, as well as forged ballots cast on behalf of the elderly and the handicapped. Even fictitious voters were invented and ballots cast in their names.

            What particularly struck FBI agent Ernest Locker was how routine vote fraud was for the pre­cinct captains, election judges, poll watchers, and political party workers he interviewed. They had been taught how to steal votes (and elections) by their predecessors, who had in turn been taught by their predecessors. Based on his investigation, Locker came to believe the claims, hotly debated among historians, that Mayor Daley threw the 1960 presidential election for John Kennedy with massive ballot stuffing in Chicago.[17] This type of voter fraud, stated Locker, “was an accepted way of life in Chicago.”[18]

            Soon after the investigation started, it became evident that this was not a case of isolated wrongdo­ing, but rather a case of extensive, substantial, and widespread fraud in precincts and wards through­out Chicago. The FBI investigators concluded that their regular tools-interviewing witnesses, obtain­ing documents, and using handwriting experts to analyze signatures on documents-would not be up to the task. After all, to conduct a complete investigation, they would have to review “virtually all of the 1,000,000 ballot applications submitted in the City of Chicago in the November election” as well as the voter lists maintained by the election board for all of Chicago’s 2,910 precincts (compris­ing approximately 1.6 million voters) to check for the names of voters registered in more than one pre­cinct, as well as registered voters who were dead.[19]

            Locker was shocked at the sheer magnitude of the number of fraudulent votes and the fact that fraud occurred in every single Chicago precinct.[21] More than 3,000 votes had been cast in the names of individuals who were dead, and more than 31,000 individuals had voted twice in different locations in the city.[22] Thousands of individuals had supposedly voted despite being incarcerated at the time of the election, and utility records showed that some individuals who voted were registered as living on vacant lots.

            Armed with that information, Locker did some­thing unprecedented: He convinced his supervisors to dedicate all of the agents in the FBI field office in Chicago for an entire week to nothing but review­ing all of Chicago’s voter registration cards and bal­lot applications.[23] So many signature comparisons were needed that the FBI flew in handwriting experts from its headquarters in Washington.[24] The Justice Department and the FBI have never concentrated that much manpower and resources, before or since, on investigating a voter fraud case.

            Teams of FBI agents were paired with Assistant United States Attorneys and assigned to investigate specific precincts, locating and talking to voters who had supposedly cast votes in the polling place.[25] They quickly learned that voters’ signatures on ballot applications “had been forged wholesale in many precincts.”[26] The investigation also “revealed that there were an extremely large number of tran­sients, incapacitated people, and senior citizens in whose names votes had been fraudulently cast” when they did not themselves vote.[27]

            Democrats have decades of experience in this field, and their test bed is Chicago.

            1. BYODB   2 years ago

              Not to mention this gem.


              the federal investigation was really sparked by a party worker from Chicago’s 39th Ward who was upset by his precinct captain’s broken promise to award him a city job for his participation in the vote fraud.

              If it hadn't been for this guy that was involved in the scheme but didn't get his payout, they probably would have gotten away with it. It takes some serious chutzpah to shaft someone with evidence of your misdeeds.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                Nah. Once they think they are untouchable, they don't give a fuck. Like the Biden White House.

                1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                  Hubris is often they're undoing. Such as taking gold bars in payment for your bribes and then storing them in your house and hiding money in the wall. Or storing your bribe money in the freezer.

        2. Minadin   2 years ago

          BTW some of the 'irregularities' found in that case were things like dropping off footlockers full of absentee ballots after hours at the election commission.

          They overturned the election. It was that bad. No one went to jail, so no record of fraud, per some standards.

          1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

            Nobody PROVED there was fraud, so it's all just speculation and accusations.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              Which in turn proves it was a far-right conspiracy.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            The person in Virginia who changed the official results just got his charges dropped.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    That would be consistent with the methods universities have sometimes employed to protect other minority groups...

    The key statement. However, it was an unwritten (maybe explicit somewhere) that wrongthinkers and Jews are not worthy of special protection.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      Telling that you separate Jews from wrongthinkers there...

      https://twitter.com/MythinformedMKE/status/1733103703702286579?t=nKiCAs7-HTNyRWH8TPW2xw&s=19

      While some colleges say they *might* start to address anti-Jewish sentiment on campus…

      American colleges & professors are still very comfortable with calling for white genocide and hatred for white people.

      Just listen to them:

      [Video]

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        Professors calling for genocide is about as scary as being challenged to a fight with a five year old. Not really scary, only slightly disturbing.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Yes, but their stupidity becomes culture ten to twenty years later. Look at all the mockery the proto-woke professors preaching political correctness were getting in the late 90's and now their insane views dominate HR departments and city councils.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Unfortunately true. But like with a crazy girlfriend, they can only accomplish what we let them get away with.

            BTW, the gender here is significant. From leftist university presidents to leftist city councils, the people in charge are mostly uterus-havers.

            1. mamabug   2 years ago

              In an egalitarian culture, anyplace you have an entrenched bureaucracy women will end up in charge of it.

              1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago (edited)

                And there is a reason Dolores Umbridge was the most evil person at the ministry of magic in the later Harry Potter books. Although, I doubt JK Rowling realized that when she created the character.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        I'd like to think everything I say is telling.

  10. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Biden to use decades old law to seize patents from drug companies to lower prices. But at least he recognizes the constitution.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/07/biden-administration-asserts-power-to-seize-drug-patents.html

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Losing a case at the USSC is no problem for Biden. He will still give another 5B away in student loan forgiveness. Because he recognizes the constitution.

      https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-administration-forgive-nearly-five-billion-dollars-additional-student-loan-debt

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        We are witnessing the collapse of an empire. Gets your preps in order.

    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      I'm not sure that one is totally wrong. If taxpayers funded the research, then the results should be in the public domain.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        The only winning move is not to play.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          That's why I stopped voting.

        2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

          Number of players equals zero.

        3. Dillinger   2 years ago

          greetings, Professor Falken.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Would you like to play a nice game of chess?

      2. Zeb   2 years ago

        Of course, it should be general policy, not selectively applied to things that might be politically advantageous.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Unequal application of laws is basically the cornerstone of this administration.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            And the core of the Democratic Party. See "equity".

      3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        Depends on the mix of funding or if the universities sold the patents (very common).

        This policy is just broadly applied from what has been said about it.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          I think the deal should be that if you accept funding for research from government, then all of the results of that research should be available publicly and not patentable.
          Government funding of research is a huge problem in the corruption of science and basic research. I want to see more incentives against taking government funding.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            It should be that way, but is generally not. Usually the University retains first rights to patents funded by research grants who then sell the parents funded to private corporations the professors later go on to work for or create.

            Even in the defense industry there is color of money fights all the time against IRAD.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    This guy got a vasectomy because he was worried a kid would cause climate change...

    And latex destroys the environment.

    ...racking up about 4-12x a normal person's emissions all in one go.

    They were going to have 13 kids.

    1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      13 kids

      Not with those T-levels.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Yesterday, a sitting US Senator actually claimed that imported garlic was a national security threat...

    Senator Vlad the Impaler (R-Transylvania)

    1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      It is a security threat like open borders is not a security threat.

  13. JesseAz   2 years ago

    It's a shame there are so few legitimately principled fiscal conservatives in Congress; holding up one form of spending to get another type greenlit is a time-honored tradition, but not one that truly dials back government spending.

    The spending on illegal immigrants already exists. Estimated at hundreds of billions. Is the border security less than those costs?

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      It is a sour grapes attack on what the GOP is doing because Reason's editorial stance does not want the border secured because it is mean to "migrants".

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        New Data Show Migrants Were More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden
        .
        According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
        .
        In absolute terms, the Biden DHS is removing 3.5 times as many people per month as the Trump DHS did. These figures are important for understanding how each administration has carried out border enforcement.

        https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show-migrants-were-more-likely-be-released-trump-biden

        MAGA! FATASS DONNIE IS JUST SO GODAMN DREAMY!

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          ^Isn't this the same fuck that was gloating how officials were ignoring Trump's immigration orders four years ago?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Um, yes, yes he was.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Hey, it must be Trump's fault that Resist! heroes in government refused to follow orders.

          3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Isn’t this the same fuck

            Not me, dipshit.

            Now tell me how Donnie is worse on the migrant crisis again. I want to hear the Big Wingnut Aborto-Freak admit it.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Are there more illegal immigrants crossing and in country today or under Trump?

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Examples.

                Right wing politico.

                https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017f-d8bd-d522-ab7f-debd59400000

            2. Sevo   2 years ago

              the TDS-addled turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
              But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

            3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              "Now tell me how Donnie is worse on the migrant crisis again. I want to hear the Big Wingnut Aborto-Freak admit it."

              What does this even mean?

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                CATO statistics show that Donnie failed as badly or worse than Biden on the migrant crisis.

                Therefore:

                You admit so now. Just admit it.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  No they didn't. The open borders advocates claimed rates were different while ignoring total numbers. And used bad data from the Biden administration to do so.

                2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  Lying fuck. They certainly did not.

                3. R Mac   2 years ago

                  You were banned for posting links to kiddie porn.

                4. Sevo   2 years ago

                  turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                  If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                  turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          Biden provided an app to release migrants for years under false asylum claims. They even have an app. All so idiots like you can claim they were released. Lol.

        3. Sevo   2 years ago

          The TDS-addled assclown turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  14. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

    “Darryl,” my then-partner called out from a few rows back on a crowded flight. We’d originally been seated together, but I’d relocated so a mom could sit with her kids. When I looked back over the packed seats, amidst the roar of burning engines, she smiled at me and mimed a scissor-cut with two fingers. “Yes,” she finally said, in a gesture understandable only to me.

    Hey wordsmiths, what do we call this kind of awful, emotional, narrative driven writing in modern newsprint?

    It’s like the sweater tied around his neck is choking off the oxygen to his brain.

    And can we fucking stop with the “partner” designation? Yeah, that got popular in the 90s when gay people were starting to get married and there was some confusion as to what a man called his “husband” or a lesbian would describe her wife or life-long ‘companion’. But we grew out of that and men started calling their husbands… husbands, and bitches called their wives wives.

    But then suddenly we regressed and now [ostensibly] straight people are now ‘encouraged’ to use the term “partner”. And yes, I’m aware it has to do with the rejection of “gendered” language. Which makes it even more annoying. Fucking ‘current day’ shit.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      I'm all for the two of them never breeding, but what I can't understand is how they can even like each other. They seem insufferable.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        THANK YOU! Yes, this^

    2. BYODB   2 years ago

      That entire screed is simply a justification for an entitled and selfish millennial that can't bear the thought of having children because it would mean they can no longer be a child themselves.

      Any preening about the decision resting on climate concerns is just a thin and culturally acceptable reason for a selfish lifestyle that can't bear the thought of being responsible to anyone but themselves.

      Which is fine, I suppose, but don't make it out to be some grand moral gesture to save the world. That's just plain bullshit.

      1. mamabug   2 years ago

        Any bets on him suddenly changing his mind 50s when he first gets hit with an understanding of his mortality, dumping his 'partner' for a younger model, and having that one pop out 2-3 kids?

        1. BYODB   2 years ago (edited)

          Not really. It seems improbable given how deeply they appear to be saturated in goodthink.

          I have no problem with people who don’t want kids, but people who try to say they’re saving the world by not having them are inherently broken people.

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            I don't have kids and have ensured that I won't via the same method, though that's because my genes in particular suck, and I'd not inflict those on anyone.

            If I need to raise a child. I'll adopt. But honestly, I'm a far better uncle than parent, and I can accept that.

            And even if my primary purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others, at least thus far, none of my nieces or nephews have an engine block collection, thus far. And given that my uncle had a whole pile of wives, was a felon, and got a 15 year old pregnant when he was 24... Well, I'm carrying on that tradition of serving as a warning to the children of my chosen tribe.

            1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              If the engine blocks are part of a auto repair and salvage business, that wouldn't be bad at all. Quite lucrative actually.

              As for purpose, only living things can have an purpose of their own and only humans can choose a purpose. Looks like we've both chosen the Childfree By Choice option well.
              🙂

        2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Said no man I've ever heard of, and no "younger model" I've ever heard of would have children in mind. Think Anna Nichole Smith.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        While I don't buy the couple's "man is a virus on the Planet" zero-sum mentality on Environmentalism, you don't have to have children to acknowledge you are grown-up.

        If anything, one could say not bringing children into a war-torn, terror-filled, increasingly tyrannical world where they are born with now over $66,000 of debt on their heads in the U.S. is profoundly mature.

        Being Childfree in it's own way can express love for children, especially when coupled with devotion to making the world better for children who are here. At least all this is speaking for me.

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      she sounds horrible

  15. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

    That would be consistent with the methods universities have sometimes employed to protect other minority groups," writes Intelligencer's Jonathan Chait. "But it would also be deeply illiberal

    And "liberal" Jonathan Chait delves no more into that observation. The obvious conclusion is that the methods employed on behalf of other minority groups is also, in fact, deeply illiberal. And that's where people like me feel the need to step back. The college administrators and the Jonathan Chaits of the world are never going to come to terms with that fact. Giving their friends on the "anti-colonialist" left a pass isn't going to do a damned thing to get them to recognize the legitimacy of free speech principles. It may well be, as I'm inclined to think, still the right thing to do. But, don't kid yourself. On a practical level all you're saying is that their speech is protected and their enemies' is not.

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      The principle of equal treatment under the rules is nonnegotiable. Even before a liberal policy on free speech, a double standard is intolerable.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Equal treatment is racist. Ask Kendi and other CRT cunts.

      2. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

        I get your point. And it's actually the point I'm trying to raise here. Too many libertarians simply assume away the question of whether unequal treatment at least partially favoring libertarian principles is preferable to equal treatment at odds with those principles. Here's a case where you've got it. And it's not going away.

        1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

          Unequal treatment doesn't favor libertarian principles at all. Unequal treatment is the whole reason for having authoritarian policies in the first place; you have authoritarian policies in place and then use them against your opponents but not against your friends. This is authoritarianism 101.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            There is a bit of a libertarian debate around whether it's better for bad laws to go mostly unenforced, or if it's better that they are vigorously enforced so people see how bad they are and demand change. A lot comes down to what you think of the concept of rule of law (and if you even thing that's a real thing).

        2. BYODB   2 years ago

          It's 'assumed away' because libertarian principles simply do not allow unequal treatment. If there is unequal application of the law you've already give away the debate and are now squarely in the realm of authoritarianism. Any freedom you may enjoy is a gift that can be taken back on the whim on the king.

          Which, one might notice, is exactly the world we actually live in today.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            Which is also why it's important that law be simple and minimal. With the amount of legislation on the books in our current situation, it is impossible to consistently enforce all the laws without setting up a massive police state and they will inevitably be applied selectively.

            1. BYODB   2 years ago

              Precisely. In fact, that is the goal of complex legislation and deeply entrenched bureaucracy as it ensures that one cannot follow the law thus enabling any number of victimless crimes one can prosecute against one's enemies.

              Which is also exactly what we see today, perhaps most prominently displayed against Trump who has held the highest position possible in American government yet still ran afoul of the bureaucratic state.

  16. Minadin   2 years ago

    "When elite university presidents claim that even hateful speech should enjoy ironclad protection on college campuses, they are absolutely correct,"

    I think there might be a line somewhere. Maybe at calling for violence against or genocide of groups of people based on immutable physical traits.

    I'm pretty sure that if I showed up on campus wearing a sandwich board that said 'Murder all Women' on the front and 'Rape all Mexicans' on the back, I'd be escorted away fairly quickly. Whether it would be before or after I got my ass kicked would depend entirely on the response time of the campus cops.

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      Probably depend on the campus as well. Pretty sure I could take down a dozen or so soy boys and blue haired freaks in short order if I needed to.

  17. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1733112684994757108?t=Gdh42sTRquGcwvUVC8BcgA&s=19

    She’s fortunate that she didn’t misgender someone or say “White lives matter”, because then she would have been immediately expelled

    "An NYU student who tore down posters of Israeli hostages complains that she's been suspended from school, had her scholarship rescinded, and will be kicked out of campus dorms next semester."

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Go back to a time when men were men and women were happy for it

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Yup, on campus to get their MRS degrees.

  18. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    The unemployment rate has reportedly gone up, from 3.9 percent to 4.

    UE just released 3.7%. GDP growth 5.2%. Crude oil $70.

    ECMONY SUKS! CHEESY POOFS TOO HIGH!

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      But you assured us everything was terrific throughout 2022 as well.

      Stocks fall to end Wall Street’s worst year since 2008, S&P 500 finishes 2022 down nearly 20%

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        I hope you bought your gold-plated doubloons like they hawk on Fox News all the time.

        That or a MyPillow pillow to cry on.

        1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

          Why did you spend 2022 gaslighting us that everything was fine?

          Is CNBC a "wingnut.com" site that can't be trusted?

          If 2022 was the worst Wall Street year since 2008, doesn't that mean it was worse than every year under President Game Show Host - worse, even, than the pandemic / lockdown / #BLM riots year?

          What is a more reliable indicator of a disappointing economy: Wall Street having its worst year since 2008, or Sam's Club closing a few stores (which you thought was devastating news 5 years ago)?

          If dissatisfaction with #Bidenomics is an inherently MAGA wingnut.com position, why do so many Democrats feel the same: DNC Touts ‘Bidenomics at Work’ Hours After New Poll Shows Just 24% of DEMOCRATS Say They’re Financially Better Off With Biden?

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            180 million people get $1400 Donnie Checks and the stock market bubbles up.

            Coincidence or cause?

            You get one guess, gurl.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

            2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              "180 million people"

              oops - 300 million instead. What's a few trillion to Fatass Donnie?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Cite, pedo?

              2. Sevo   2 years ago

                turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

            3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              "180 million people get $1400 Checks"

              Golly, who passed that Pluggo?

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      Want something more recent?

      Poll Shows Just 14 Percent Of Voters Say Biden Has Made Them Better Off

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        I mean blackrock, vanguard and the entirety of the deep state is probably close to 14% of the population

    3. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      When asked whether Biden or Trump has done "a better job handling the economy," 54 percent said Trump and just 36 percent said Biden. - Buttplug's schoolboy crush ENB plunging a dagger through his heart

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Pluggo’s schoolboy crush is on a schoolboy.

    4. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      I like how you’re dead set on claiming expanded government spending (responsible for your GDP numbers) is a good thing. Ask Argentina how well government spending worked.

      Youre basically applauding inflation.

    5. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    6. R Mac   2 years ago

      New government employees is the largest driver of new jobs you lying pedophile.

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        And even then, the employment numbers will be revised to reflect reality in a couple of weeks.

  19. Chumby   2 years ago

    Fuck Joe Biden

    The US govt should not be in the war they are waging against Russia nor should they be in the one against the US taxpayer.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Better to wage war on foreigners who want to be Americans, on Americans who reject conservative culture, and on Americans who want to buy stuff from foreigners.

      Fuck those stupid libertarians who oppose coercion no matter which political party is doing it. They need to get with the program and support Republican authoritarians.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        The libertarian approach is stop fighting proxy wars, stop sending money overseas, and end the welfare state. Biden (D) should stop his war against the productive Americans being forced to fund his follies.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Good thing Republicans support the libertarian approach.

          HAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            It wasn't that long ago they told us that we had to re-elect Dumbya because you can't change presidents during two wars.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Most. Important. Election. Of. Our. Lifetime.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                How the GOP learned to love the PATRIOT ACT and Big Government ver. 2004

                Much like version 2020 was.

                #DonnieTrumpTripledDeficit

                1. Sevo   2 years ago

                  The ass-clown turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Who do you plan to murder first?

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      White knighting the pedo does not become you.

                    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      White knighting the wannabe mass-murderer truly becomes you.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      I'm not backing up Sevo here, but you are backing up Pluggo everywhere you can.

                    4. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I’m not backing up Pluggo here, but you are backing up Sevo everywhere you can.

                    5. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      Oh no, you're definitely backing up Pluggo here.

                    6. Sevo   2 years ago

                      "Who do you plan to murder first?"

                      Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.

                    7. Sevo   2 years ago

                      "Oh no, you’re definitely backing up Pluggo here."

                      And too fucking imbecilic to know it. Or drunk.

                    8. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Oh no, you're definitely backing up Sevo here.

                    9. R Mac   2 years ago

                      You watched the actual video of Trump saying he’ll be a dictator for one day yet, or are you gonna just stick with pushing the left wing talking point about it, definitely not a lefty sarc?

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Sarc totally isn't defending democrats whole ignoring democrats on every policy while accessing the GOP of doing what democrats openly advocate for.

                And just ignore his best friends are shrike and Jeff. Lol.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  JesseAz totally isn’t defending republicans whole ignoring republicans on every policy while accessing the Democrats of doing what republicans openly advocate for.

                  And just ignore his best friends are Nardz and Sevo. Lol.

                  1. Sevo   2 years ago

                    Fuck off and die, lying pile of lefty shit.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      You plan on shooting people? Using a bomb?

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Asking someone to "fuck off and die" is not a threat of murder. It follows in the classic tradition of "eat shit and die", aka ESAD. In other words, bugger off, sod off, piss off, etc.

                    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                      Declaring half of the voting population to be a cancer, with cancer being something to be killed or cut out, he is saying that at least a quarter of the adults in this country should be killed. That’s a declaration of mass murder. If he doesn’t want to do it himself, he still wants it to be done. So he’s a wannabe mass murderer or wants others to do it for him.

                      And those of you who white knight for him, like you are right now, are complicit in this desire for the death of tens of millions of Americans over how they vote.

                    4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

                      Yep, it’s whine-o’clock somewhere. I’m actually kind of surprised you don’t white knight misconstrueman, with him having a favorite Nazi and all.

            2. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
              turd lies. turd is a TDW-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

            3. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)
          2. Chumby   2 years ago

            Biden (D) and his lackey Austin certainly don’t. I recall then senator Biden (D) going all in for the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Biden (D) later helped oversee the occupations when he was assistant manager. During the botched Biden (D) abandonment of Afghanistan, Biden (D) managed to drone strike murder eight children and an aid worker.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Good thing Republicans are without sin.

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                I’m not saying they aren’t. The current Democrat administration is talking about conscripting Americans to fight a war halfway around the world against the planet’s largest nuclear power, on their doorstep, that no libertarian could support because congress won’t borrow more money to continue the failed proxy war. Biden (D) owns this mess.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  The current Democrat administration is talking about conscripting Americans...

                  A quick Google says that is based upon a faked video.

                  1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                    Yup, disinformation conspiracy stuff. So it will turn out true in 6 months, right?

                  2. Chumby   2 years ago

                    Faked video? It was reported when Austin communicated with congressional members.

                    It echoes Kirby’s recent statement.

                    The libertarian approach is to stop funding for Ukraine and exit NATO.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                      Got any credible sources to back up the claim that there’s serious talk about conscription?

                    2. Chumby   2 years ago

                      That is what had been reported. DoD and Austin have not responded.

                      You good with the Kirby claim?

                      You agree that the libertarian approach is to pivot far from the current Biden (D) approach and leave the region?

                    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I said before that I'm ambivalent about Ukraine. I don't want to see them ruled by Putin, but I don't think it's our business to fund foreign conflicts.

                      Regardless, your mere assertion isn't persuasive evidence that there's serious talk about reinstating the draft. Everything I've looked up says you were duped by liars.

                    4. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Ambivalent means Biden (D) sending more money is good or bad?

                      Kirby’s slippery slope is ambivalently ignored? It sounded like the domino theory 2.0.

                    5. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      So you've got nothing.

                    6. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Sarc refuses to do a quick Google of Kirby press conference VIDEO and will deny any source that talks about it because he hates who is talking about it. But he isnt a Democrat.

                    7. Chumby   2 years ago

                      It was reported above. You’ll have to unblock Jesse.

                      Can’t answer the funding question?

                      Can’t answer the Kirby question?

                      It would be too sobering for you to answer those?

                    8. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Sarc refuses to do a quick Google of Kirby press conference VIDEO...

                      I did and got nothing, so I asked your girlfriend for a cite. Got nothing.

                      All I can conclude is that you are both full of shit. As usual.

                    9. Chumby   2 years ago

                      I pooped a just few hours ago. Should be empty now, unlike your posts.

                    10. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Not one link to back up your assertion that there's serious talk of a draft. Just personal attacks.

                      Sad. So very sad. But not surprising. Nope. Not one bit.

                    11. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Jesse provided that.

                      You have a cite beyond “Google”?

                      Still no comment on Kirby’s statement? Kirby does serve under Biden (D), is that why you are avoiding commenting?

                      Still no comment on additional funding request for Ukraine by the Biden (D) admin?

                    12. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Jesse provided that.

                      No he didn't. I see no link. And I've googled every combination of Kirby, press conference, Biden, draft, conscription, Ukraine etc and got nothing.

                      So if you've got proof of what you claim, provide it. Because I can't find it.

                      Otherwise admit to being wrong.

                      Haaaa ha ha ha ha! I'm kidding. You'll never do that. You'll just wage more personal attacks.

                    13. Chumby   2 years ago

                      There are other outlets that reported this, but this had the video of Kirby’s slippery slope fallacy channeling the Vietnam era domino theory.

                      https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/12/06/john-kirby-says-to-imagine-the-cost-in-american-blood-of-not-supporting-ukraine-n2390562

                      Kirby talked about American blood. Not conscription.

                      Still crickets on Yes/No to sending more money to Ukraine? Biden (D) wants to send more money. What say you?

                    14. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      It is amusing how Maines greatest programmer can't find a single video even given specifics. Something widely reported and linked to.

                      But he did find evidence the video was fake somehow despite it being a press conference.

                    15. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Perhaps Tulpa dressed up as Kirby and that was him giving the presser.

                  3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Link and a citation?

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                      Google. Try it.

                      Oh, never mind. I forgot that fallacies like 'switching the burden of proof' are considered persuasive arguments around here.

                      My bad.

                    2. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Just to be clear, “Google it” is a good cite and providing the entirety of your posts is a bade cite because…reasons?

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      You're the one saying what it is or is not. Therefore, the burden of proof and a citation is on you.

                    4. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I assume you're talking about a certain loser who makes Mary Stack look sane. That certain loser puts up my posts, infers things that weren't said, then insists that the inference is what was really said. And you back up the sack of shit every time.

                    5. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      You’re the one saying what it is or is not.

                      I'm responding to the claim that there is serious talk about the draft. The burden of proof lies with that person.

                      Oh, shit. I mistook you for being honest again. So sorry. I need to stop doing that.

                    6. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Using Tulpa as an excuse is just that, an excuse. Be a man and take responsibility for your own posts.

                    7. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Your entire quotes are being provided, not some snip from them. Is this one of those emotional truths thing where words don’t mean what they mean?

                    8. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      So you've got no proof to back up what you said and are resorting to personal attacks.

                      I'd be a liar if I said I was at all surprised.

                    9. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Sarc makes an assertion.

                      sarcasmic 27 mins ago
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      The current Democrat administration is talking about conscripting Americans…
                      .
                      A quick Google says that is based upon a faked video.

                      People ask him for his evidence of said assertion and he calls it switching the burden by asking him for his evidence.

                      I'll add it to the list.

                    10. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Your entire posts are included in quotes. Playing the victim card before noon is poor sport.

                    11. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Your entire posts are included in quotes.

                      What part of "That certain loser puts up my posts, infers things that weren’t said, then insists that the inference is what was really said." did you not understand?

                      Sorry. I keep mistaking you for someone with integrity. So fucking stupid of me. I really need to stop doing that.

                    12. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      People ask him for his evidence of said assertion and he calls it switching the burden by asking him for his evidence.

                      I’ll add it to the list.

                      My post was in response to the assertion that there is serious talk about conscription. The burden of proof lies with that person, not me.

                      So please add it to your list, Mary Stack. The only people who believe your shit are liars and morons.

                    13. Chumby   2 years ago

                      I read your entire quotes. As have others. Absent of possibly the progressive pedophilic playpals, the same conclusions are made.

                      Is this you right now or os this Tulpa?

                    14. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      So you're a moron too. I'm sorry. I thought better of you.

                    15. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Tulpa is smarter than this. Guess your account hasn’t been hacked today. Well, until a few days from now when somebody posts the entirety of something you post today then who knows.

                    16. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                      When your words are directly quoted in the same thread, you immediately move the goal posts.

                    17. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Chumby 17 mins ago
                      Your entire posts are included in quotes. Playing the victim card before noon is poor sport.

                      Like I said yesterday, it's whine-o'clock somewhere.

                    18. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Keep up the personal attacks. So much better than providing proof of your assertion that there's serious talk about a draft.

                    19. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      You've got no links because you were duped. But rather than admit it you go on the attack. I would say I thought you were better than that, but then I'd be a liar.

                    20. Chumby   2 years ago

                      You are projecting. The cite was provided above.

                      Are you looking for the Kirby cite or are you ok with that? Assuming you are ok with that, still crickets on it and will chaff and redirect with a victim card play again?

                    21. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      Sarcasmic one post before: "So you’re a moron too."

                      Sarcasmic one post after: "Keep up the personal attacks."

                      You know how I know you're back on the bottle, Sarckles?

                    22. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      "So you're a moron too." was an observation, not an attack. Learn the difference.

                      You know how I know you’re back on the bottle, Sarckles?

                      You spent years trying to prove SPB, Squirrely and others were all socks run by yours truly. You knew it was true. You just knew it. Even when you accidentally provided proof that someone else was impersonating me and others, you still knew you were right.

                      Sorry bub, but you don't know shit.

                    23. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                      Sarc - When I do it, it's an observation. When you do it, it's an attack.

                    24. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I apologized while I was saying it because I thought better of him. It's not an attack. I wish I didn't have to say it. But if he agrees with JesseAz's inferences and believes I say what JesseAz says I say instead of what I actually say, he is indeed a moron. Again, I wish he wasn't. He's almost likeable.

                    25. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                      People post your exact words, and then you deny it, and typically pull out the "voices in your head" line. You seem to be degenerating more every day.

                    26. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Exact unedited words despite sarc lying about it.

                      Again, clearest example of sarcs pathalogical lying from a few weeks back. 24 hours later he claims a lie about something he said.

                      https://reason.com/2023/11/06/blinkens-mission-impossible/?comments=true#comment-10306317

                      Nothing altered. Word for word post. Sarc says I lied. Then tries to claim he didnt say what he said even after the citation.

                      He is pathalogical.

                    27. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                      He can't be expected to remember what words he used moments ago, much less weeks ago.

                    28. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      "You spent years trying to prove SPB, Squirrely and others were all socks run by yours truly. You knew it was true. You just knew it. Even when you accidentally provided proof that someone else was impersonating me and others, you still knew you were right."

                      Just Sqrlsy, Sarckles. Nobody thought you were the Pedo.

                      Your schtick was getting blackout drunk and writing all sorts of freaky shit, and then not remembering and blaming Tulpa the next day.

                    29. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Heavy alcohol use can impair short- and long-term memory.

                  4. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                    faked video

                    Project Veritas again! Those chucklefucks!

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      And just why do you have a "2" after you name, Pluggo?

                    2. Sevo   2 years ago

                      The TDS-addled turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
                      But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

                  5. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Fuck. You'll push any god damn leftist talking point.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Fuck. You'll push any god damn GOP talking point.

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                      You truly love being an ignorant clown sarc.

                      You won’t even source the lies and assertions from the left you push. What did you check, media matters?

                      The Kirby press conference is real you retarded fuck. You deny it because people you hate took notice.

                      Yourr such a sniveling retard.

                    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      You truly love being an ignorant clown JesseAz.

                      You won’t even source the lies and assertions from the right you push. What did you check, Alex Jones?

                      If the Kirby press conference was real you retarded fuck, you'd have provided a link by now.

                      Yourr such a sniveling retard.

                    4. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      "Fuck. You’ll push any god damn GOP talking point."

                      Except this isn't even remotely true. Jesse attacks the GOPe on a daily basis. If you would have said "MAGA" or something you might have been on to something, but not GOP.

                    5. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Jesse attacks the GOPe on a daily basis.

                      *cough cough cough*

                    6. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Sarc denies reality. He prefers the reality found at the bottom of a bottle.

                2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                  Over and under on how long it takes Sarc to go full on Mike Hihn?

              2. Zeb   2 years ago

                Pouring stupid amounts of money into foreign conflicts we shouldn't be involved in is unfortunately a pretty bipartisan thing.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  The only thing both parties agree on is that initiating violence on people they hate is ok. They differ on who they hate. Well, almost. They can both agree that they hate libertarians, because libertarians oppose initiating violence on anyone regardless of which party is in power.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Quick, democrats are being criticized for things they openly say! Yell both sides to protect them!!

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Quick, republicans are being criticized for things they openly say! Yell both sides to attack them!!

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      I attack them constantly dumbfuck.

                      Do you think you're doing well this morning?

                    3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                      "Quick, republicans are being criticized for things they openly say! Yell both sides to attack them!!"

                      Who is the "them" in that sentence?

                  2. Zeb   2 years ago

                    They also largely agree on dumping tons of cash on the military industrial complex. One of the few issues where the divide isn't very partisan. Establishments of both parties are all in on that shit.

              3. damikesc   2 years ago

                Keep forgetting that criticizing the current President is a no-no.

                1. Chumby   2 years ago

                  Fuck Joe Biden

      2. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        You'll excuse any Dem behavior because "GOP BAD!"
        It can be both are bad, ya know.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          You’ll excuse any Rep behavior because "DEMS BAD!”
          It can be both are bad, ya know.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            He staid full retard since yesterday. Anyone still think he is sober?

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              I didn't post at all yesterday. And you accuse me of being drunk?

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago (edited)

                Yeah, it was day before yesterday.

                Also, I thought you had JesseAz muted?

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Fine. Full retard for the entire week.

                Feel better?

        2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          It can be both are bad, ya know.

          YOU PEDOPHILE!

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            When I sarcastically said "Fuck those stupid libertarians who oppose coercion no matter which political party is doing it." that was code for "DEMS GOOD GOP BAD!"

            Mmmm hmmm.

            And Bob isn't stupid, unlike others in these comments. Guess he's just another lying sack of shit like the rest. Kinda sucks because I used to respect the guy.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              See, you are working with Buttplug.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                See, you are working with Idaho-Bob.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Is your whole reason for being just to be contrarian?

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    He's kind of lost the plot, so now he's just basically trolling again.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Someone should let him know that he's shit at trolling.

                    2. Chumby   2 years ago

                      On a scale of Biden to 10, how would you rate his trolling?

                    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      Depends on how drunk he is. He gets closer to a Biden as the bottles go down and the day progresses.

                      I was actually really rooting for his sobriety. Too bad he couldn't do it.

                    4. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Did anyone here think he could after even the first day? It requires behavioral changes and work. The only reason he mentioned sobriety was to get attaboys and to claim he was a victim. There was no honest intention behind it.

                    5. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Are you saying he tried to bamboozele folks?

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Tell us again why you have a "2" after your name.

          3. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      3. JesseAz   2 years ago

        And sarc breaks out the ignorance and strawman arguments yet again as he intentionally mischaracterizes the arguments and ignored the costs. Amazing.

      4. DesigNate   2 years ago

        The things you listed aren’t the same as Ukraine, you get that right?

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      It's funny that the Democrat have put us in the position that what's good for Russia is good for the US

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        The only winning move is not to play.

  20. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    The state of California—which is hemorrhaging its population—is staring down a $68 billion budget deficit next year.

    Illinois: "Welcome to the club."

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      The real issue is that they don't tax commuters by the mile. - Veronique

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        lol what the fuck was that yesterday nonsense?

        1. BYODB   2 years ago

          My best guess is it's some kind of effort to appease Progressives, but charging motorists a per-mile price to drive on public roadways would obviously require an extra extension of the surveillance state into your vehicle. Not that there is any shortage of that, given that the government is insisting on kill switches in every vehicle.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            Red Barchetta

            if I wanted to keep my '13 Mustang but put a new motor in it would the new motor have the killswitch?

      2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

        I actually think the idea of toll roads (preferably privately operated but state is fine) rather than gas taxes is a far better way to fund roads and road maintenance. Also offer the chance to buy annual passes, so they just have to pay tolls when driving where they normally commute. Also, at the same time do away with car registration etc. All surface transportation costs to be user pay, i.e. tolls.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          We're talking about Illinois. The real one. Talk like that will get you a gas tax, tolls, per mile fees, income tax, pensions and wages for all the union employees building and operating all the literal and bureaucratic machinery involved, excessive borrowing against all of it, and like it.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Send them all the illegal aliens flooding across the border.

  21. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "It's crazy that the free speech hypocrisy on elite campuses has gone on for this long and gotten this bad. High-up university donors and governing bodies should have probably pushed for cleaning house long ago, and more forcefully communicated opposition to the imposition of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) bureaucracies, campus speaker shout downs, and the like."

    Think of this like having a crazy girl friend. At first she seemed interesting and exciting, if a bit weird. Then she got more extreme, but still satisfied some other needs. But one day you come home and she has a coven meeting in the basement, and wants to castrate you as part of a healing ceremony.

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      What is crazy is how little attention has been paid to this problem which has existed for years because before it was only affecting "right wing" figures. Now it is directed at a demographic that straddles the Left/Right divide, it is now Important.

      Glad those guys have shown up to the party, but they are rather late.

      1. mamabug   2 years ago

        It's like none of them ever had the 'first they came for the socialists' post stuck on the wall of their HS English/History class.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Never stick it in crazy.

  22. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    " University administrators should push for and enforce policies that are broadly speech-permissive. It's just that there's a hollowness to this being their stance now after years of skirting this commitment."

    Skirting? Censoring speech and persecuting undesired groups have been a core part of campus leadership for decades. Digging around in the academic attic to find the free speech banner now is like Nazi camp guards rediscovering their civilian clothes.

    1. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

      "When I am weaker than you I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles."

  23. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    "Special counsel David Weiss leveled a nine-count indictment against Hunter Biden late Thursday

    WITCH HUNT!

    (saith Fatass Donnie concerning any indictment directed his way)

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      What you will say when Chris Hansen starts investigating your hobby.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        I see you enjoy the taste of Putin's rancid cock. Does it taste like Fatass Donnie's?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          I don’t partake in your wishful thinking fantasies.

          Why do you think you are pedophilic? Did something wrong happen to you earlier in your life?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            And why does he feel more at home with Democrats?

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              Now see? This is a good question. I do like liberals far more than Bible-beating moralist conservatives. Liberals are just better people. Even the rich conservatives are just angry cocksuckers - see the Fat Rush's, Greg Gutfelds, Beck/Hannitys, Levin - they all peddle anger to moralist types that want to rule your life.

              A long time ago I was watching Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid with a friend when his roommate walked in. He said "You're watching those two goddamn liberals?" He was right - Paul Newman and Robert Redford - two rich cool guys and he hated their fucking guts.

              THAT is a conservative for you.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Then why do you even call yourself a libertarian? You pal around with Soros's idiots, peddle kiddie porn, and support every Democrat and Democrat position you see.

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                  I call myself a classic liberal, you lying piece of shit.

                  Progressives, while well-meaning like Bernie Sanders, are too stupid to make laws.

                  To both parties - quit trying to make things better. Leave us alone and markets will make us all richer. No more $1400 handouts.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    You're about as classically liberal as Karl Marx.

                  2. Sevo   2 years ago

                    turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
                    But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken. He's dishonest since he's too stupid to understand there is "honesty".

                  3. DesigNate   2 years ago

                    You’re not a classical liberal.

              2. Sevo   2 years ago

                turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

              3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                "Liberals are just better people."

                Especially the ones chanting from the river to the sea.

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                  Those are progressives. They are loathsome people.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago (edited)

                    Riiiiiiiight… No true liberal!

                    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                      Those progressive idiots hate Joe Biden.

                      But for very different reasons than you do. Tlaib calls him Genocide Joe.

                      MTG is an idiot but Tlaib is worse.

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                      I wonder who they voted for?

                    3. Sevo   2 years ago

                      Everyone knows turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
          But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      If Democrats had any sense they'd be pointing to Republicans who have done similar things in the past, and then used the Trump Defense: "They did it first so it's ok!"

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)

        “If Democrats had any sense they’d be pointing to Republicans who have done similar things in the past”

        If there was even a remotely similar situation happening on the other side, they would have already.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Sarc would have as well. Why he created the strawman.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Remember when Mike et. al. tried to claim “bipartisan” when one or two Republicans would support some stupid Democratic Party bill and the rest of the Republicans opposed it?

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  24. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    Do you think students would be protected if they walked around chanting "from the pacific to the pond, all the blacks must be gone"?

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      That will be obviously indenfensible hatred.

      The Palestinian chant is nuanced and can be interpreted in benign ways. You cannot hold all Palestinian supporters to the nastiest possible meaning.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Yes you can

        1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

          That was sarcasm. I was listening to The Fifth Column podcast with Shadi Hamid this morning and he made that argument. The gaslighting, obfuscation, and cognitive dissonance coming from Hamid was frustrating.

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

            My sarc detector is usually better

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              My sarc detector goes off whenever I pass a homeless person passed out on a corner.

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                With a sealion spooning the homeless person?

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Sea lion is still going through gender transitions. Corners and homeless people would harm his/her recovery.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    And here I thought the sea lion was just a squawking bird named Dee.

                  2. Chumby   2 years ago

                    Sealioness?

          2. MasterThief   2 years ago

            Tbh, I've heard that dumb ass deflecting claim too often from people lately. Lately I've been shocked by how common antisemitism is. I knew it was the case for the left and certain fringe right groups, but the amount of self-described libertarians ascribing to it has been alarming

  25. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Interesting, and bit thought provoking, even if I'm not a fan of Alex Jones (and my jury is still out on the interview).

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/if-people-think-things-are-bad-now-tucker-and-alex-jones-talk-deplatforming

    In a deep-dive on everything from 'deplatforming' to 'depopulation', Tucker Carlson sat down with Alex Jones.

    [Carlson:] "To this day, nobody has been more aggressively censored, I don't think, than you... I read about it, and I felt that it was a major moment in the history of American media. I don't think anybody defended you when that happened. Anybody, with any kind of audience,"

    [Jones:] "When Tim Cook admitted that he met on the weekend in August of 2017 with the other big tech heads, and they made the decision to "curate" like it's a museum - and take me off, it was hundreds of platforms. It wasn't just the big ones. Everything from LinkedIn, to our bank accounts being taken away, to everything ensuing over the next week and that month. And I knew I was a test case."

    "Once they deplatformed me, it made the show in ways only get bigger... So then they panicked and said 'okay, let's look at his record and create more of a reason,' so they took things out of context from 5-6 years before, blew em up as a current thing out of context, and deceptively reported on what I said to create a strawman argument to then facilitate the reason."

    The discussion turns to the current state of America with Jones laying the blame for the growing division of the nation by race squarely at the feet of China.

    Jones warns however that "they are panicking" because "more and more blacks and hispanics are voting Republican," which, he explains is why the open border policy is being allowed.

    Jones then explained that the elites demonize rural Americans in order to blame them for the ills of society.

    "The reason you're doing bad is not blackrock and the WEF and Bill Gates. It's all those evil people in the countryside. They're all white supremacists, terrorists and racists. Let's go get 'em! Cause the last group they don't control is rural people that are self-sufficient. And so I get going to the countryside, protecting your children. That's the holy grail. The problem is, you gotta have one foot in each - you gotta go back and fight in the city for the infrastructure, for the government."

    "You gotta give people hope, while also building a backup operation of farming and ranching and self-sufficiency," Jones continues.

    "So that's why the WEF and the UN are coming in in Ireland and in areas of Asia, and in the Netherlands, and saying 'by 2030, 80% of your cows gotta be dead,' and they just banned like 30% this year in the Netherlands."

    "The Globalists have gone from testing-phase to fully operational now," he warns, noting that "they say - read their writings - we are going to have a post-industrial world by 2030... and we will start the depopulation of 90% of the people by 2045."

    Jones replies: "they want to bring the world population down to 500 million."

    The two also discussed the upcoming US election next year. According to Jones, both Biden and Trump are 'liabilities' for the deep state

    Alex Jones says sources in the White House have told him that Biden "wanders around naked" and is on a constant cocktail of amphetamines and benzos.

    Tucker says he knows someone who witnessed Biden taking amphetamines in 2020.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      >>“Once they deplatformed me, it made the show in ways only get bigger

      "If you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

    2. BYODB   2 years ago

      Jones is a nightmare person, I can't deny that. It's possible he may be right since even a stopped clock can be right twice a day, but if he's right about anything it's through the sheer volume of shit he throws at the wall.

      I thought that his case was a disgusting miscarriage of justice and was absolutely a way for the government to set bad precedent in favor of their authoritarian tendencies, but that issue is separate from his worth as a 'reporter' which is actually a negative value.

      It boils down to I have to defend Jones, even though I loathe him, simply because what the government did to him yesterday is probably what they'll do to me tomorrow.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Exactly. We were pointing this out when he got deplatformed, what, two years ago now? "If they can do this to him, however obnoxious he is, they'll do it to anyone that doesn't tow the line." That's why the left and establishment right chimped out about Musk turning Twitter into a more politically neutral platform that wasn't taking direction from the DNC and its media allies.

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      the overwrought hysteria over Alex Jones is second only to TDS.

  26. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    If only more climate freaks and other progressive retards would get physically neutered (in order to match their psychological profile).

    But of course that's why they need to control schools, so they can replenish the cult.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      There should be mandatory suicide for all climate activists that believe people are destroying the planet

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        Practice what you preach.

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          Per polls, people who view climate change as an existential threat are between 10-30% of the world's population (and also tend to be the wealthiest) imagine the decrease in GHG emissions of they all swallowed a nine?

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            and the redistribution of wealth ...

            1. Minadin   2 years ago

              . . . which is another thing they preach.

              1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                We can kill multiple birds with one stone. Also, as the wealthiest people tend to be white in Europe and North America it would also drastically reduce 'white privilege'.

                1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                  I'd even be willing to kick in a couple boxes of Winchester defender rounds so we can make sure it works. We could probably pay for this by donation only.

                  1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

                    I have a whole case of 10mm I'll put towards this good cause.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        Yeah, those folks never volunteer to make the world a better place by eliminating their own carbon footprint forever.

  27. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "New York City Mayor Eric Adams' poll numbers are dropping."

    How much fun would it be to have even more democracy, and require weekly approval votes for all sitting officials?

  28. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    More communists who think they're exempt from paying their bills to government.

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago-teachers-union-president-owes-city-5579-for-utilities/

    Newly uncovered records show Chicago Teachers Union President Stacy Davis Gates was $5,100 behind on her water, sewer and garbage services before starting a payment plan in July 2023. She almost immediately defaulted on that plan – despite making more than $289,000 a year.

    She owed $5,579 to the city as of Nov. 7, 2023.

    Davis Gates’ debt is part of over $6.4 billion in unpaid fees, fines and other debts left uncollected since 1990, according to a Chicago Sun-Times analysis. City Comptroller Chasse Rehwinkel said collection efforts are focusing on debt less than five years old owed by those with the means but who are skirting responsibility.

    Davis Gates’ tenure as CTU president has been filled with controversy, from taking a homestead exemption on an Indiana home she doesn’t live in to killing school choice for low-income kids while putting her own son in private school. CTU has also come under fire from its own members for potentially misappropriating members’ dues for politics.

    This latest revelation adds to the mounting evidence of her hypocrisy. She spurns responsibility and accountability both in her role as CTU president and in her daily life, while pushing for “wealthy” taxpayers to pay their “fair share.”

    In July 2022, the Chicago City Council passed an ordinance prohibiting water shut-off for non-payment. It followed a 2019 moratorium on residential shut-offs implemented by former Mayor Lori Lightfoot to “protect Chicago residents’ fundamental right to water access.”

    It raises the question of whether Davis Gates – whose own income tops $289,000 a year – is using an ordinance intended to benefit lower-income residents for her own personal gain.

    1. BYODB   2 years ago


      In July 2022, the Chicago City Council passed an ordinance prohibiting water shut-off for non-payment.

      Which means, in some fairness, that if you actually pay that bill you are the idiot. This was so predictable it boggles the mind that anyone is surprised about it.

  29. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    If Darryl was committed he would kill himself

    1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      People like Darryl should be committed more often.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        What about his brothers Larry and Darryl?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          "that settles it — no more Japanese food before you go to bed."

  30. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "The state of California—which is hemorrhaging its population—is staring down a $68 billion budget deficit next year."

    I assume this is fake news, direct from the DeathSantis campaign.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Saw in the WSJ today that Newsom wants to rethink the guaranteed $25 minimum wage offered to health care workers under state employ as one way to help offset the $68B deficit.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        $25 an hour for LVN's is fantastic, but for an RN or NP they can get a better deal elsewhere.

      2. mamabug   2 years ago

        Only $25?

        I had a remote position open for my company for a just-above-entry-level IT analyst. One of the offers I made was to someone living in CA and they made me offer in the 100k a year range due to the 'geo adjusted market data'

      3. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

        $25 for a nurse would, especially in California, be ridiculously low but below average for most of the country, for a CNA that's a couple dollars more than what my wife makes after 30 years as a CNA. And I'm betting their definition of health care workers is probably very broad, to include people with no direct patient care, and probably includes kitchen staff, central supply, environmental services etc. Vital to healthcare but unskilled labor for the most part. And they wonder why healthcare costs so much.

  31. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Soros, #MeToo, & Oct 7.

    https://johnkassnews.com/me-too-only-if-youre-not-jewish/

    Was it only yesterday that critics of left-wing billionaire George Soros were apt to be denounced as antisemites, and socially isolated and silenced, threatened with loss of career and status?

    But now it appears that the worm has turned. And that Soros defensive shield that relied upon fear and intimidation of good people has been weakened.

    It started on the beginning of Hannukah, as Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Gilad Erdan condemned Soros as “shameful” for reportedly funding pro-Hamas groups to the tune of more than $15 million. Some reports list more than $24 million or more.

    “George Soros’ donations to organizations that seek the destruction of the State of Israel as a Jewish state is shameful,” Erdan told Fox News. “However, I am not surprised, for years, Soros has backed and transferred money to organizations supporting BDS that want to isolate Israel,” added Erdan, who has been leading the diplomatic campaign at the U.N. to spell out Hamas’ crimes against humanity. “They have never been about real peace or any solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”

    Just follow the money. Or ask the “rogue prosecutors” he has backed, in part because they don’t follow the law and they don’t compel lawbreakers to abide by the law.

    If, say, you lived in Chicago–where violent crime has been on the increase–and dared condemn Soros for funding the political campaign of hard leftist Kim Foxx for Cook County State’s Attorney, or other similar “rogue” prosecutors, then you run the risk of being denounced as an anti-Semitic bigot, a hater of Jews, even if you never mentioned (or even considered) Soros’ ethnicity or religion at any time.

    And then came the Oct.7 bloodthirsty attacks of the pro-Iran terror group Hamas against Jewish children and women.

    An odd thing was the silence of the left—in media, politics and the universities—that refused to criticize Hamas.

    “One of the jaw-dropping aspects of American reaction to Oct. 7,” Huntley writes, “has been the virtual silence from progressive feminists and Me-Too activists over the rape rampage against Jewish women.”

    In that public hearing conducted by Rep. Stefanik, the presidents of Harvard, Penn and MIT could not answer the most simple question. And they were afraid of angering the hard-left that for decades has controlled the universities and shut down the free speech of conservatives.

    Asked repeatedly, they could not answer the question whether the public pro-Hamas demands calling for the genocide of Jews violates standards and codes of conduct. They couldn’t answer and said it “depends” on context.

    What if the radical pro-Hamas protesters called for the elimination of blacks or homosexuals? Would the presidents of Harvard, MIT and Penn find the courage to say something.

    It tells you what you already know. The Ivy League is the place for cowards, a place for men and women without chests. A place that curries favor from Jewish donors, but also a place that won’t protect donors’ children.

    And Soros will do what Soros will do, no matter the costs to the cities where his politics have unleashed anarchy and chaos and a sense of utter lawlessness for all the victims of brutal violent crime.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      “One of the jaw-dropping aspects of American reaction to Oct. 7,” Huntley writes, “has been the virtual silence from progressive feminists and Me-Too activists over the rape rampage against Jewish women.”

      I thought that Feminists weren't silent on this... I thought they said that condemning rape in THIS circumstance was essentially Republicans Pouncing in order to keep the poor freedom fighters of Hamas oppressed.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        Look, Hamas is very feminist. They put a bullet in the brain of the women they gang rape within an inch of their lives out of pity to make sure they don't have to live with the pain of what they just went through.

        What could possibly be more feminist than that? I mean, other than ladydick that is. Obviously!

        /s

    2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

      Can we return to the rich (who attended elite universities) of the gilded age who championed ruggedness, played contact sports like football (by the old rules where mortality was a risk that you ran every time you stepped on the field), hunted rhino's hippos, elephants and cape buffalo in Africa, ran cattle ranches in North Dakota, actually did serve often in the military (made up a large portion of the officer class)? Believed in hard work? Etc. And the wealthy before that took part in duels and not just served but were expected to serve as part of their noblesse oblige.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        The concept of noble obligation isn't dead, it just morphed into what's best for the commoner is death instead of servitude.

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          They've traded the title of Duke, Earl, Baron, etc to activists and philanthropist. Then again, some didn't even change their titles (King Charles I'm looking at you you hypocrite).

          1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago (edited)

            I nominate at the next Climate Change conference the Royal Navy pulls the HMS Victory out of ordinary and Chucky takes that to the conference. Biden can take the Constitution, which would be easier since the Constitution is still in sailing order and not in ordinary.

            This would be great because they're already pushing new 'wind powered' freight and passenger ships (and yes, they are talking sails and or kites, the magazine I read about that in even called it an exciting new technology).

  32. Spartacus   2 years ago

    Rick Scott has had an upgraded AI Trump Emulator installed. It's entertaining to watch.

  33. Brandybuck   2 years ago

    > This guy got a vasectomy because he was worried a kid would cause climate change

    Performative vasectomies. I really home this guy wins an Oscar.

    What's next? Tubal ligations to protest GMOs?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      To be fair, these are the type of people who absolutely should not be breeding.

  34. Sevo   2 years ago

    "The White House is threatening the patents of high-priced drugs developed with taxpayer dollars"
    [...]
    "WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration is putting pharmaceutical companies on notice, warning them that if the price of certain drugs is too high, the government might cancel their patent protection and allow rivals to make their own versions.
    Under a plan announced Thursday, the government would consider overriding the patent for high-priced drugs that have been developed with the help of taxpayer money and letting competitors make them in hopes of driving down the cost..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-white-house-is-threatening-the-patents-of-high-priced-drugs-developed-with-taxpayer-dollars/ar-AA1l99Nu

    1) When you sup with the devil, you had better have a very long spoon.
    2) Under what authority are taxpayer dollars used to develop meds?

    1. NOYB2   2 years ago

      Even worse than these massive government subsidies of an industry is then trying to change the rules after the fact and use that as blackmail to get concessions from private actors. Because such arbitrary after the fact rule changes mean that private actors will be unwilling to invest even when government takes a more free market approach.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        You might call it a chilling effect, and you'd be right.
        Droolin' Joe seems to imagine he was crowned.

  35. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/1732966799430353372?t=SR09EZAODh2uAp7BZgagoA&s=19

    New: Quick action by MLK Center visitors saved Martin Luther King’s birth home from arson. @FBI engaged: Woman arrested for pouring gasoline, trying to burn down Martin Luther King Jr.’s birth home

    [Replies]

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      And this is the woman:

      https://www.ktvu.com/news/martin-luther-king-jr-birth-home-scene-of-attempted-vandalism

      Two off-duty New York City Police officers and two Utah tourists are being credited with helping to stop the intentional burning of what Atlanta Police Chief Darin Schierbaum describes as a "jewel of the city."

      Atlanta police officers rushed to Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birth home in Atlanta just after 5:45 p.m. Thursday after reports of vandalism in progress.

      Chief Schierbaum says two tourists from Utah saw the woman dousing the plants, porch, and the front door of the home with what smelled like gasoline. The bystanders told officers they intervened when they saw her try to ignite a lighter.

      The name of the woman was released early Friday morning. Atlanta Police identified her as 26-year-old Laneisha Shantrice Henderson. She has been charged with arson in the 2nd degree and interfering with government property. She has been booked into Fulton County Jail.

      How much you want to bet this disappears in short order, never to be heard of again?

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago

        "Laneisha Shantrice Henderson"

        Sounds like a white, racist, nazi chud to me!

      2. BYODB   2 years ago


        Laneisha Shantrice Henderson

        Obviously a white supremacist in the vein of Clayton Bigsby.

      3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        if she had been white this would have been front page news for the entire month

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Woman arrested for pouring gasoline, trying to burn down Martin Luther King Jr.’s birth home

      The most important thing of everyone involved might surprise you!

    3. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

      Given that no race is mentioned, we have to conclude that it was someone black who is the arsonist.

      And… look at that, that’s what happened.

      She was stopped by “two tourists from Utah”...

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        It's quite obvious from the KTVU article I linked above.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        Whenever race of an accused criminal is NOT mentioned...

  36. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    This is disturbing.

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1733081814179217919

    [YouGov Survey] Top groups that believe the Holocaust didn’t happen:

    -Democrats: 10% (vs 5% of Republicans)
    -Black people: 13% (vs 5% white people)
    -City residents: 14% (vs 3% rural people)
    -Young people: 20% (vs 0% of age 65+)

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      Young people are on Tiktok more than most demographics. Turns out Tiktok use correlates pretty well with antisemitism.

      https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1730255552738201854

      1. NOYB2   2 years ago

        And that's no accident either, that is deliberate, destructive propaganda spread by China.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

          Are you saying Misek is Chinese?

          1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago (edited)

            Possibly. Before 1938, Germany was the largest weapon supplier and military advisor to the National Chinese Government during the second Sino-Japanese War and Hitler actually stated in 1938 he didn’t consider the Chinese (or Japanese) as inferior to Germans and that they had an older culture that historically was superior to German Culture.

      2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        And stupidity.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      -Democrats: 10% (vs 5% of Republicans)

      To be fair, it's possible the entirety that 10% of Democrats is simply "Muslim immigrants".

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Kids who don't believe the Holocaust happened are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      100% of misk (VS 0% of the rest of reason commenters)

  37. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    HAHAHAHAHAHA! Sure, Reason, the problem is qualified Immunity and The Jones Act...

    A Seattle police officer fired after she and a colleague fired dozens of rounds at a stolen car fleeing a crowded neighborhood was wrongly terminated, an arbitrator has ruled, underscoring ongoing accountability issues dogging the department and possibly undermining efforts to finally end federal oversight.

    The arbitrator, an attorney in Wisconsin, didn’t order Officer Tabitha Sexton reinstated to her job as a Seattle Police Department patrol officer, saying she’s likely moved on from her 2017 firing. But the arbitrator did order the city to pay back wages that, based on her prior salary, will exceed $600,000.

    Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell condemned the decision, saying the policy violations were clear and the discipline commensurate with the seriousness of the incident.

    “The Chief of Police’s decision to dismiss should be upheld. Effective public safety requires real accountability, and, as such, we are calling for this decision to be appealed,” Harrell said in a statement Thursday.

    The arbitrator concluded Sexton and a second officer, Kenneth Martin, both violated policies relating to de-escalation and use of force, which he found to be confusing and ambiguous.

    1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

      Is this arbitrator chosen by the voters, or selected by elected officials? Or is (s)he appointed by joint agreement between the government and the cop union, putting the people's representatives and the people's servants on an equal plane?

  38. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    It's a shame there are so few legitimately principled fiscal conservatives in Congress;

    And there never will be.

    It's best to accept and understand that now, so that going forward you know what to expect.

  39. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    The Republicans are wrong on border and immigration policy. And Biden is wrong about spending American tax money on Ukraine's defense against the Russian invaders. They're both wrong to play politics with policy issues and spending. Anyone who wants to visit the U.S. or work here should be allowed to do so after a simple criminal background and security check as long as they support themselves. Ukraine has a right to defend themselves as long as they pay for the weapons they need to defeat the Russian aggressors.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      "...Ukraine has a right to defend themselves as long as they pay for the weapons they need to defeat the Russian aggressors..."

      Or perhaps get the Euros to kick in, since it's their asses on the line. Maybe Francois can cut his 6-wk vacation back a bit and do his part to defend himself instead of depending on the US taxpayer to do it for him.

      1. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

        NATO should accept Ukraine's application to join immediately and Ukraine's nuclear deterrent should be restored. Just before that the United States of America should drop out of NATO - "Mission Accomplished!"

    2. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

      Anyone who wants to visit the U.S. or work here should be allowed to do so after a simple criminal background and security check as long as they support themselves.

      That is unenforceable: people will enter and then just stay.

      In terms of national wealth, anybody who contributes less to GDP than the average American makes us poorer as a nation.

      In terms of fiscal health, anybody who contributes less in taxes than the average American makes our debt and spending problem worse.

      In terms of cost/benefit, merely being allowed into the US is a benefit worth at least $20000/year in terms of infrastructure and implied insurance, security, and government services. I’m not talking about welfare, but just the kind of stuff the US provides to everybody in the country.

      Those government services and invisible benefits are why so many low skill illegals want to come here in the first place, rather than going to Somalia and Western Sahara.

      1. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

        "That is unenforceable: people will enter and then just stay." You really should try to avoid remaining clueless. The number of illegals has been hovering around thirty million for the last four or five decades. Your quota system is a massive failure and has been for a very long time. It escapes me how your fevered imagination can produce a crisis over the possibility that a few million extras would arrive here if the failed immigration policy were finally abandoned.

        1. BYODB   2 years ago


          The number of illegals has been hovering around thirty million for the last four or five decades.

          Surely you must realize these numbers are pulled from an asshole? No real numbers exist for this one way or the other.

          1. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

            Still insisting on remaining clueless?

            1. BYODB   2 years ago

              I'm not the one using entirely manufactured numbers here.

              Sorry, but that's a fact.

              I notice you made zero effort to shore up those numbers as anything other than nonsense extrapolation. Therefore I assume you already know this is a fact, and since you can't refute it you're going to resort to grade-school name calling.

      2. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

        "anybody who contributes less in taxes than the average American makes our debt and spending problem worse"

        That is a truly pathetic attempt to deflect, even if it were true! There is one, and ONLY one culprit behind our debt and spending problem: The Congress of the United States of America. Shame on you!

  40. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Special counsel David Weiss leveled a nine-count indictment against Hunter Biden late Thursday, accusing President Joe Biden's son of failing to pay $1.4 million in taxes from 2016 to 2020," per ABC News.

    Please, please, PLEASE let this drag on throughout the election. It will be the greatest spectacle.

  41. mad.casual   2 years ago

    This guy got a vasectomy because he was worried a kid would cause climate change and then he and his wife took a 4-year traveling honeymoon around Asia running a travel writing gig and racking up about 4-12x a normal person's emissions all in one go.

    JFC. This isn't even the half of it, the vasectomy is the intro. The buildup is that he kept his sperm on ice before, during, after and the trip was the final motivation to stop running the freezer for the sperm not one of his partners wanted.

    Good fucking riddance.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Yeah, this seemed to be more of a personal story full of trials and tribulations about relationships and personal growth, where the Vasectomy was the the opener.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        The whole 'snip snip' motion was some pretty fucking bizarre in-group/mutual brainwashing... and I'm married to a Catholic.

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          When we were dating, my then Catholic (from a very Catholic family) asked me what a Lutheran was.

          I replied "You've heard of Hidden Valley Light, all the flavor half the calories, well, we're Catholic light, all the ceremony, half the guilt".

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago

            To your point about the various Christian faiths coming together to found a no-shit Theocracy:

            Jeff Foxworthy used to do a joke about someone more urbane asking for a U2 album from redneck relatives who reply "You mean us?"

            The opposite side of that joke is an ethnically diverse group of Catholics asking "What does non-denominational mean?" and Mrs. Casual short circuits the discussion with "He's read The Bible and knows what it says." and they all nod at each other knowingly.

            1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

              It is really surprising how many Christians haven't really taken the time to read the Bible. I'm sure there are Lutherans who haven't but Lutheran doctrine encouraged deep Bible study. And Lutheran ministers do a deep dive into the Bible in seminary school (that's why it takes six years to finish seminary). They even require ancient language study, so that the ministers can understand how the language has changed to give a deeper understanding of the Bible.

    2. Illocust   2 years ago

      He's going to end up marrying a girl someday who already had kids with someone else. Odds are strong.

      1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        Or a girl with a penis.

    3. Minadin   2 years ago

      "Help control the progtard population - Have your global warming alarmist spayed or neutered."

  42. NOYB2   2 years ago

    The distinction made between conduct and speech by all three presidents remains largely correct. University administrators should push for and enforce policies that are broadly speech-permissive.

    No, they shouldn't. Universities are not by their nature public forums, they are institutions of higher learning. Students and professors should be held to a high moral standard. Calling for anybody's genocide, even if it is "just speech", is incompatible with the educational objectives of a university. Taxpayers ought not to be forced to fund activities that are not just contrary to the educational objectives of universities, but morally reprehensible to many.

    Let's not forget that universities were not just educational institutions, but Christian institutions for most of their existence.

  43. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Well this is a pleasant surprise. A case where LGBTQI2MAP+'s want to keep a distance between themselves and small children.

    I mean, don't get me wrong, it's full of 100% retard, but at least they want to be retarded without children present.

    “I’m a Black transgender man and a homeowner in the city. Denny Blaine is the only park that I feel safe to swim in,” added Vince Reiman, who grew up in Seattle. “When I transitioned, I thought that I would never be able to swim in Lake Washington again … Denny Blaine is my miracle.”

    No one who spoke at the microphone during Wednesday’s meeting backed the playground plan, though one neighbor told KOMO 4 he wants the project built and “lewd behavior” reduced for his kids, the outlet reported.

    Another neighbor, Sunit Anandwala, said he was initially excited to hear about the playground plan. Then Anandwala learned about the park’s historical use as an unofficial nude beach and now feels differently, he said.

    “You have people in the community who support you,” he told the crowd.

    And Miguel Lugo said he moved to Seattle eight years ago “looking for an accepting community,” having suffered from suicidal thoughts since coming out as gay, mostly due to body dysmorphia. His mental health has improved after making friends and spending time at the beach.

    “Being nude at Denny Blaine quite literally saved my life,” Lugo said.

    I mean, yeah, America is a picked flower, but thanks, I guess for not wanting to wave your junk in a 3 yr old's face.

    1. Agammamon   2 years ago (edited)

      I mean, we do say that these weirdos should keep their weird shit off the street so I think its fair to designate an area where they can do their weird shit together and when they’re done doing their weird shit, can put their clothes back on and come be normal with us everywhere else.

      Not having a place where weirdos can go and be weird together makes them want to blur the lines between 'things that should be kept private because no one wants to see that disgusting shit' and 'this is an all-ages, public area so behave yourself'.

      1. NOYB2   2 years ago

        I don't see what's "weird" about nude beaches. It's not a particularly gay thing. Lots of people and families go to nude beaches all around the world. Sports and even education used to be done in the nude ("gymnasium").

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          I don’t see what’s “weird” about nude beaches. It’s not a particularly gay thing. Lots of people and families go to nude beaches all around the world. Sports and even education used to be done in the nude (“gymnasium”).

          It's hard to explain why, but in Seattle, it is a VERY gay thing.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Sounds a bit different than the Florida experience with them. I mean, the northern quarter of Haulover is obviously gay, but the rest of the beach is about equal male and female just enjoying the sun and surf, not bothering anyone else.

        2. Agammamon   2 years ago

          Doesn't matter - not really the point.

          The point I was trying to make is that *whatever* some group is doing that you think is weird, them having a place where it can be cordoned off from the rest of the public is a good option.

          If weirdos don't have that, then they want to try to 'normalize' it so they can do it everywhere.

          Weirdos, gay dudes, trannies, whatever, off on their own little secluded beach getting up to whatever depravity best suits them out there can then put on their suit and tie and mingle with the rest of us normies everywhere else rather than them demanding to be able to do whatever they want behind every bush in every park.

    2. NOYB2   2 years ago

      So, there's a nude beach on Lake Washington. Why shouldn't there be? Aren't there enough other beaches where nudity isn't tolerated?

      Whether you take your kids to a nude beach is really up to you. Lots of Europeans do that, with no ill effect.

      And what does that have to do with "LGBT..." anyway? Gay guys look the same as straight guys when they are nude. And it's hard to claim you're a woman when your dick is in plain sight at a nude beach.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        And it’s hard to claim you’re a woman when your dick is in plain sight at a nude beach.

        I'm actually surprised the trans folks haven't tried to ban nude beaches yet as they can't hide what they are there.

        1. BYODB   2 years ago

          In some fairness, all except the very incredibly rich among them can't hide what they are anywhere anyway. It's obvious.

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

            But for trans men (FtM, right?) are there really people on beaches, nude or clothed, running around pointing out mastectomy and/or implant scars and shouting “Get off my beach!” Wouldn’t they wind up shouting “You’ve got mastectomy scars (and a vagina), GTFO!” at some poor cis-female breast cancer survivor? Does everyone else just sit around while said person laughs/harasses/shames whatever biological female (trans or cancer survivor) off the beach?

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        See my comment above. In Seattle, it's a gay thing. Extremely gay. Gay as the day is long. Gay as a $3 bill gay. Like so gay, gay normies look at those beaches and say, "My god how gay can you get?" Nude beaches in Seattle is the gayest thing since the Village People did something gay.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          Right, per the trans person, it sounds less like "I just want to swim naked." and distinctly more like "I want to swim naked around other gay men while they're doing gay men things." A place where trans men go in the hopes that the concentration of cis-manliness creates some manner of manly gamma radiation chain reaction.

          1. BYODB   2 years ago

            Unfortunately, it turns out that gay men still don't like vagina's even though it's owner happens to have a beard.

    3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      I am afraid that I do not understand why not having a place to swim in the nude means never being able to swim.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        People with body dysmorphia want to swim naked, according to the article. Don't question it.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          To be clear, true to form: They want the corner of a lake in WA to do whatever that is among themselves? It's a free country.

          Mentally, personally, about a third of my brain wants to wish it all away to the corner of a lake in WA. It's a free country. Good on them for leaving the kids out.

          That said, another third of my brain needs to dissect exactly who is throwing trans men off of regular nude beaches or even just regular beaches. Other women? Insecure men? People with X-ray vision who can see through men's swim trunks? Am I completely autistic and there's no actual swimming critically involved?

          The final third of my brain, agrees with the second third, if only because it feels like there's a news story about a K-3 naked swimming classes somewhere else waiting in the wings.

          1. Agammamon   2 years ago

            I don't think there are generally all that many nude beaches in the US in the first place.

            And from the article and from what I know of nude beaches in the US in general, a lot are really just gay sex hangouts.

            1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

              There was a nudist colony near our place in North Idaho, even owned lake front property on Lake Coeur d'Alene (average depth 120 feet, glacial, fed by two glacial/snowpack fed Rocky Mountain rivers, with a lake temperature in the mid-50s even at the height of summer). Kind of made me wonder what they did from September to May (and in the evening, given we were primarily arid mountain climate category and even in July and August night time temperatures dropped routinely into the 50s, sometimes even into the 40s).

              1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                Wikipedia says 68 degrees for Lake Coeur d'Alene in the summer. It never seemed that warm when we swam in it.

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Especially as a transgender man.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          I enjoy still not knowing exactly what a transgender man is.

          1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

            Delusional.

  44. Agammamon   2 years ago

    "It's a shame there are so few legitimately principled fiscal conservatives in Congress; holding up one form of spending to get another type greenlit is a time-honored tradition, but not one that truly dials back government spending."

    One type of spending is to address an immediate national security priority - the other isn't.

  45. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    The Axios article about the fallout of Congressional testimony conveniently avoids mentioning in the "context" section the lack of free speech adherence on campus previously concerning other culture wars hot button topics.

    1. NOYB2   2 years ago

      I still don't see why there should be "free speech" on college campuses.

      I mean, you can make a legal argument for government-supported schools if you invoke a contorted interpretation of the 1A together with the incorporation doctrine. But that doesn't go to the heart of why or what the purpose is, or even why taxpayers ought to be obligated to pay for others calling for genocide on their dime.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        I'd just like to get rid of this idea that so many seem to have that doing loud, obnoxious activism is an essential part of the college experience.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          if those chicks had any men to choose from their college experience would be different.

        2. BYODB   2 years ago

          It's a leftover relic from the 1960's and since these students were never really taught anything about the reality of the Vietnam conflict they see no difference between microaggressions and being conscripted to fight a 'definitely not a war' in a foreign jungle.

          1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago (edited)

            Given how the wealthier you were the less likely you were to be conscripted during that time, many of these sort still wouldn’t understand conscription even if they were alive during Vietnam.
            One of the biggest changes to occur post conscription, all volunteer military (besides creating a generational military, my son and nephews are fifth generation Army for instance) was that the average familial income level for service members actually increased pretty dramatically. Historically, even pre-draft (especially during times of more or less peace) the average enlisted person would come from the lower classes. Post Vietnam and the end of the draft, the average recruit is white, male, from solidly middle class, working class backgrounds, with at least a high school diploma (albeit a large percentage, but not a majority, have some college).

            The percentage of blacks has actually decreased since the end of the draft, Asians has remained mostly flat to slightly decreased (historically always this group is underrepresented in the US military compared to their percentage of the general population), Hispanic has increased, and Amerindian has remained flat, but far above their percentage of the population (make up about 1% of the adult US population and about 5% of recruits). The Army and Marine Corps tend to be much more white, Hispanic and Amerindian than the general population and much less African American and Asian. Asians are actually the least represented in comparison to their general population, followed by blacks. Most overrepresented are Amerindians and Hispanic, but whites also serve at a higher percentage than their share of the general population. Several years ago one of the usual suspects media actually did a story about this and tried to imply it was because of systemic racism, especially in the Army and Marine Corps (the disparity is even higher in combat arms, and goes even higher in special units like Airborne and even higher in special warfare units to the point that blacks and Asians in those fields are rounding errors). Of course they didn’t explain why Hispanics and Amerindians are overrepresented if white supremacy/privilege/systemic racism is the cause of underrepresentation by blacks and Asians.

            1. BYODB   2 years ago

              Interesting stuff, although my point was simply that these kids just know that those 'protests' helped end Vietnam in at least some small part and mistake the protests as being the proximate cause rather than the general population actually agreeing that maybe Vietnam was a terrible idea in the first place.

              There is no such general agreement about their current causes, and the method of their protests actually hurts their stated goals.

              As a simple example, the 'climate protestors' throwing paint on works of art admired the world over doesn't make people think better of their zero carbon demands. It makes them look like idiot children throwing a tantrum with no idea what they're actually saying.

              Rather like a 14 year old that just discovered Marx and see's it as a great way to piss off their conservative parents even though they have absolutely no context and haven't even read Marx at all.

              Which, in fairness, is understandable given the concentrated propaganda about all these subjects that they are exposed to by people with their own ideological axe to grind. One hopes that they'll 'grow out of it', but frankly I doubt they will since victimhood is apparently a rather potent drug.

              Being able to blame some nefarious 'other' for your own trials and tribulations essentially guilt free is intoxicating for many people of all ages.

              1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                I would point out that the protestors back then tended to be as low informed as today or as incapable of deductive reasoning. One of the complaints by the activists (and has created a myth) was that white people were drafting more blacks to die in Vietnam. The truth is, yes blacks served at higher rate than their percentage of the general population, however, it wasn't in the combat arms, it was largely in non-technical combat service support (e.g. supply, cooks, etc). Which also still tend to have the highest rate of blacks in the military today, even in more technical branches like the USAF and USN, which also have higher percentages of blacks, especially the USN than the Army and Marine Corps. Historically speaking blacks have always served at a higher percentage in the Navy than the Army. Blacks also were never banned from service in the Navy like they were in the preceding years before the Civil war. This was also somewhat of an abhorrention, as blacks generally weren't allowed to serve in the peace time Army but had served in every war before the Civil War in the Army, and it never really was an official policy during peace time generally, it just generally they weren't recruited or recruiters rejected wouldn't enlist them (which, given the fact that the 19th century peace time US Army was always below recruitment needs speaks volumes about the times).

              2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                And just because this is one of my favorite subjects, I would like to add some other interesting facts. By the time of the French Revolution/Napoleonic Wars the English Nobles far preferred Royal Naval service over Army service but the officer class in both was more likely to be made up of the upper middle class and wealthy, especially in the Army. This was likely because the nobility was generally less wealthy than these classes, some stigma attached to Army service (nobles who did serve were either younger sons with no inheritance or minor nobles, Wellington was both) and the fact that the upper middle class, as a result of being wealthier due to the industrial revolution had more money to spend on buying a commission and buying promotions (which was how you received a commission and generally promotion in the British Army, the Royal Navy on the other hand tended to be much more of a meritocracy).

                1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                  Note meritocracy until reaching post captain, then it was entirely seniority based but well you might get promoted to the ranks of admiral (if you lived long enough) and promotion was only through the shoes of dead men, most admirals were admirals of the yellow, e.g. no active commands and no prospect of a command, on half pay. Yes, there was a lot of patronage, but merit accounted for most promotions.

          2. Zeb   2 years ago

            It's kind of hilarious how they seem to think that doing over the top protests on college campuses is going to change the world. No one in real life gives a fuck about that shit.

  46. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"Biden ... throw himself into talks on an issue that for decades has defied efforts to reach bipartisan compromise,"

    bipartisan requires two parties with non-conjunctive interests

  47. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>This guy got a vasectomy because he was worried a kid would cause climate change

    nothing screams should not procreate like this fucking guy.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      That guy is doing all he can to protect his virginity.

    2. Agammamon   2 years ago

      Ironically - he was never going to get laid in the first place.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        even more ironically the Seinfeld where Elaine is dating Kevin & tells him she [cough] doesn't want kids so he runs out & gets a vasectomy was on while I was home for lunch lol

  48. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >I think I can help the Times with this stumper: No, he should not. Down with the gerontocracy!

    if Brandon bows out now I won't be able to mock my (D) friends after he loses

  49. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Is Chinese garlic…a national security threat?

    idk but lately I roast some to use during the week and the garlic has been garbage lately so maybe it's China's fault

    1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

      You too?

      I bought some recently that was terrible, and there didn't seem any that looked fresh and good. Strange. Maybe all the rain the got in Gilroy last winter was just too much for them.

  50. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    "It's a shame there are so few legitimately principled fiscal conservatives in Congress; holding up one form of spending to get another type greenlit is a time-honored tradition, but not one that truly dials back government spending."

    So very true.

    OTOH, why are Democrats willing to borrow $150B or so to hand it to Ukraine to protect THEIR border but not spend a penny to protect our own border?

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      "...OTOH, why are Democrats willing to borrow $150B or so to hand it to Ukraine to protect THEIR border but not spend a penny to protect our own border?"

      Perhaps to protect some Biden business interests?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        Nikki's too ... and the bio-labs ...

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          THERE’S NO BIOLABS! (Also, we can’t let Russia get ahold of the biolabs.)

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        I have a funny feeling it's more than just Biden. Anyone check on Schumer's business interests?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Schumer or later someone will.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            http://instantrimshot.com/

  51. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

    It’s crazy that the free speech hypocrisy on elite campuses has gone on for this long and gotten this bad.

    I believe those of us who started warning of this in 2014-2015 were accused of “fighting kulturwar hurr durr” and told to shut up.

    There were more important issues at hand, like weed and and inexpensive mandated heat pumps free from tariffs.

  52. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Reason's Matt Welch and I will be on The Megyn Kelly Show today at noon. Tune in!

    ask Matt whether the Red Wedding Tweet is the genocide context we've been hearing about all week

  53. Jerry B.   2 years ago

    Hunter Biden sure is competitive. He’s apparently trying to break Trump’s indictment record.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Pfffbbbt. Even with performance enhancing drugs he struggles to keep up with a 77 yr. old.

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