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Artificial Intelligence

OpenAI Basically Unionizes

Plus: Getting babies out of Gaza, lobster roll economics, gerontocracy update, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 11.21.2023 9:30 AM

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Dust settles from the coup: Early Monday morning, the employees of OpenAI circulated a letter saying they would quit the company, which made ChatGPT, over the board's unexpected and unexplained dismissal of CEO Sam Altman. Microsoft has offered jobs to all employees who want to leave, as well as Altman and former OpenAI board member/president Greg Brockman, who was pushed out by the board as well. 

As of today, 749 of 770 have signed the letter, threatening to leave unless the board reverses its decision and reinstates Altman. (Disclosure: My husband works at OpenAI and signed the letter.)

Tech world Judas: Possibly the most interesting signatory is Ilya Sutskever, the chief scientist and a board member who had played a major role in the Altman/Brockman ouster. He added his name to the letter and tweeted that he regretted his actions of the last few days, signaling remorse following his betrayal of Altman. The Judas memes, of course, followed.

No additional information has come out about why the board stabbed Altman in the back. Some people have speculated that there must have been quite serious wrongdoing by Altman that hasn't been made public yet, which is why the board remains dug into their position yet employees remain en masse supportive of Altman. This would not explain Sutskever's bizarre about-face though, which lends credence to the idea that this is more of a power play by the board or a dispute over the speed of commercialization than something more serious.

No confidence: "The idea of a standoff between 3 board members and 95% an organization's employees is so unprecedented that it seems almost grammatically ill-formed. I wouldn't have thought such a thing was even possible," wrote Y Combinator founder/tech-world doyen Paul Graham on X. "If 95% doesn't count as a vote of no confidence, what number would?"

OpenAI is run by a nonprofit with a board, which clearly has extraordinary power to dismiss those in charge. The board operates the for-profit subsidiary so that the whole entity "balances commerciality with safety and sustainability, rather than focusing on pure profit-maximization," per the company. But OpenAI employee/Tech Twitter provocateur Roon's take is perhaps best, that just because something is run by a nonprofit focused on erecting guardrails against sheer profit-pursuit doesn't mean best outcomes are necessarily achieved:

the update for me and likely for many others is the benevolence of Microsoft aligned via normal capital mechanisms and the total destructive power of a nonprofit board armed with good intentions

— roon (@tszzl) November 21, 2023

Northern front with Lebanon heats up: As Hezbollah strikes have grown more frequent, so too have Israeli attacks in response. Just last night, three people—two of whom were journalists—were killed by Israeli strikes in southern Lebanon.

Situation deteriorates for civilians in Gaza: The World Health Organization now reports that, of the 36 hospitals in Gaza, none are able to perform surgery. Many have been closed due to lack of power or lack of supplies; some have been essentially razed to the ground or so damaged by strikes that they are unusable. The remaining few, in southern Gaza, that have supplies, are so short on critical infrastructure that they essentially operate like community clinics, not hospitals, providing only the basics.

Humanitarian aid workers took 28 premature babies who were in the intensive care unit at Al Shifa Hospital to Egypt so they could receive medical care, per United Nations officials.

Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesmen say that approximately 1,500 aid trucks have been allowed into Gaza via the Rafah border crossing that the Strip shares with Egypt; Gaza's Hamas-controlled health ministry reports that this is still not enough. Medical supplies, for example, have been insufficient to restore hospitals to any semblance of their former capacity.

And yesterday at around 2:30 a.m., an Israeli strike hit the Indonesian hospital in Gaza, killing 12 and injuring many more.

Meanwhile, the IDF's Al Shifa Hospital raid has uncovered more evidence bolstering the theory that Hamas has been using Al Shifa as a shield, hiding in tunnels underneath and using the hospital grounds as an access point. "IDF troops exposed a 150-ft-long, 30-ft-deep terror tunnel under Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital, further corroborating the longtime position of American and Israeli intelligence that the hospital complex has long served as a base of operations for Hamas's terror activities," read an IDF press release from last night. "The tunnel features military defenses including a blast-proof door and a firing hole, and was uncovered in the area of the hospital underneath a shed next to a vehicle containing RPGs, grenades and Kalashnikov rifles."

Ceasefire discourse: "As long as Hamas clings to its ideology of destruction, a cease-fire is not peace," wrote President Joe Biden in a Washington Post op-ed this past weekend. "Even as many Democrats in Congress have called for a cease-fire and questioned the Israeli offensive, Biden has remained adamant that Israel is exercising its right to self-defense and has instead supported humanitarian pauses," reports Politico.


Scenes from New York: 

Inside the restaurant economics of Red Hook Lobster Pound, where a lobster roll costs $32.


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— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) November 20, 2023

  • More on Javier Milei, the world's first libertarian president, from the Reason Roundtable. And from Reason's J.D. Tuccille:

Whatever Milei's quirks, and the *huge* challenges he faces, his free-market views are a welcome break from the statism that has impoverished Argentina for decades. https://t.co/kuFDdupSm6

— J.D. Tuccille (@JD_Tuccille) November 20, 2023

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  • President Joe Biden turned 81 yesterday. Down with gerontocracy!
  • "Markets around the world are caught between sharply higher borrowing costs—likely here to stay—and a shortage of homes that's keeping prices elevated," reports Bloomberg. "That's made housing in many areas even less affordable, while property owners with resetting loans face increasing financial strain."

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  1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

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    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Gen Z will find out that employers are looking for workers with a productive personality.

      1. D-Pizzle   2 years ago

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        1. Chumby   2 years ago

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          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

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      2. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        Yeah, Zoomers with their depression, anxiety, and need for safe spaces. That's the vibe that 's delivered.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Victims rule!

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

            Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair!!!!

            To be fair it’s not just zoomers setting that “vibe”.

        2. CE   2 years ago

          Zoomers want to spend their money on experiences, not things.
          Shouldn't companies be the same way? They can pay for a fun work environment, instead of worrying about producing stuff.

      3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        No one gives a fuck how interesting they are or not. Although I would offer them a chance to prove that premise under duress. They could put their personalities in display as I bullwhip them.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Such a refreshing, childlike attitude about life.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        "Influencer" generation. Meanwhile her coworkers actually hate her. Her boss just wants to fuck her.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          The boss would be damn crazy to try that. Workplace sex nowadays is lawsuit bait, especially with The Junior Anti-Sex Leaguers among today's yutes.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Maybe. I bet that some far-right worker who resists the boss and her lady dick might not have standing for a suit, and may commit a criminal violation.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

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    3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      You are supposed to doing "the work". "The vibes" can take care of themselves.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Is that like productive work, as desired by others willing to pay, or Marxist "work", as in revolutionary disruption?

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

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    5. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      True and recent story:

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      I then humored them, put my right hand on my heart, and gave them a mini history lesson at the same time:

      "I pledge allegiance
      To the Flag
      Of the United States of America,
      And to the Republic for which it stands,
      One Nation
      --And this was added in 1954, Kids--
      Under God,
      Indivisible,
      With Liberty and Justice for all."

      They then said: "Now bow to the American Flag."

      I then gave them a civics and political philosophy lesson and said:

      "Kids, being an American means you don't have to bow to anything or anybody."

      If it wasn't so busy at work, I would have given them the history of The Pledge of Allegiance and told how it was written by Christian Socialist Francis Bellamy, who wanted to indoctrinate children in obedience to the Nation-State. Perhaps another time...

      Thankless Yeoman's work for a Secularist Libertarian, but if it pushes back the frontiers of ignorance just a little, it's worth it!
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      1. CE   2 years ago

        Let me guess, they didn't invite you to their party.

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          Right. Too young anyway, so no loss.
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  2. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Forced Transgender Boy Quickly Returns To Normal After Removal From Mother’s Care
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2016/10/22/boy-treated-as-a-girl-by-his-mother-suffered-significant-emotional-harm-court-hears/

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Behind every single transgender kid under 10 there's an AWFL mother with Munchausen's.

      Behind every single transgender teen over 10 there's a woke teacher.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        an AWFL mother with Munchausen’s

        Transhausen's by Proxy.

        https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tranhausen-proxy-parents-personality-disorders-driving-surge-trans-kids-psychiatrists

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Usually I default to the supremacy of parental rights, but these assholes are making me think again.

      2. Chumby   2 years ago

        Behind some transgender teens, there may be a Pluggo.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      And this has to be part of the conversations with groomers like our resident pedos Jeff and buttplug going forward.

      They throw out incendiary questions like "what are you gonna do, punish the parents for teaching kids something you dont like?!"

      And the answer has to at least be "maybe, it depends".

      If parents are teaching their kids that they can fly like an eagle, and a bunch of them start jumping off rooftops crippling themselves, do we do nothing? If they teach their kids that drugs are great and the kids start overdosing, do we do nothing? If we teach them that you know what you are probably a different gender, and then they mutilate them beyond repair and the kid kills themself, I think its time to put those parents in jail. At least the ones who knowingly put their kids on this path and mutilated them, to start.

      We have well established that you cant knowingly harm and abuse your children, its time to start applying this to the very obvious case of munchy patents and the trans cult

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

        They throw out incendiary questions like “what are you gonna do, punish the parents for teaching kids something you dont like?!"

        And the answer has to at least be “maybe, it depends”.

        Well, now we are getting somewhere.

        So, please enlighten us how this morality police of yours would work. We want details.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          So, please enlighten us how this morality police of yours would work. We want details.

          I would model it on the American education system's teaching of morality in school.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          "So, please enlighten us how this morality police of yours would work."

          Can it work like yours with doxxing and harassment campaigns?

        3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago (edited)

          Where were you during the clitorectomy fad, assuming that parents always know best?

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            I don't assume that parents *always* know best. But our libertarian impulse ought to be to give parents the benefit of the doubt, no?

            As far as clitorectomy goes, if it is not a valid medical treatment to treat a diagnosed disease state, then IMO it ought to be considered a type of child abuse. To the extent that these clitorectomies are justified as religious practices, I frankly don't put a lot of weight on the argument that religious liberty also grants parents the right to do harm to children. Although I also freely admit I have an anti-religious bias on this score. I would be open to listening to persuasive arguments to the contrary.

            When it comes to gender-affirming care, to the extent that it is a valid medical procedure to treat a diagnosed disease state, then ultimately IMO the parents' consent should take precedence over Mike Parsons' morality police. Now if the anti-trans crowd wants to advocate for various safeguards to be put in place - mandatory counseling, adoption of a strict standard of care, strict liability rules, waiting periods, that sort of thing - to make sure that the choice is a genuinely informed choice, then I am willing to listen. But it shouldn't be banned entirely. (I'll also point out that not even lobotomies are banned entirely.)

            And personally I would never advocate it for my child. I just don't think it should be banned for all parents and all children everywhere, because I do not know what it is like for them and I am not so arrogant as to think I have the moral authority to decide for them.

            That's my position on the matter.

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

              You are not libertarian. You only have Authoritarian and collectivist impulses.

              Now GTFO of here.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                You are a fascist. Get your redneck Nazi ass out of here.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Narrator: So Buttplug said to the image in the mirror.

        4. Uilleam   2 years ago

          The system is already in place. It's locally elected officials being kept in line by voting parents. Which apparently is working just fine in that it is frustrating pedophiles like you.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Jeff was all for school boards deciding how to effect children. Until parents took notice during covid and started electing people to support them instead of the bog pedophile supporting Democrat. Jeff quickly raged when Florida school boards stopped buying grooming books then switching the determination of how to teach children to the bog pedophile teacher. Was hilarious.

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

              Jeffy has consistently been on the side of pedophiles for at least five years now. So much so that it is likely he is one.

              At a minimum, he is a booster for their cause.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Homo.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  That's the best you got, pedo?

                  1. Chumby   2 years ago

                    He may have been referencing jeff and not attempting to issue an epithet towards Fudd. Perhaps just enhancing Fudd’s post.

        5. Azathoth!!   2 years ago

          So, please enlighten us how this morality police of yours would work. We want details.

          No need for morality police.

          Just real police.

          Make all cosmetic surgery, save for reconstructive surgery illegal for those under 18.

          Problem solved.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            Criminalize the practice of Marxism. With penalties up to and including the death penalty.

  3. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Food Trucks.

    MIT Explains Why It Didn’t Suspend pro-Palestinian Students Threatening Jews: ‘Visa Issues’
    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2023-11-11/ty-article/.premium/mit-on-why-it-didnt-suspend-pro-palestinians-students-threatening-jews-visa-issues/0000018b-be9b-df42-a78f-bfdb51c00000

    The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has acknowledged that the reason it did not follow through with threats to suspend students participating in an unauthorized anti-Israel protest this week was its concern that they could face deportation because they were not U.S. citizens.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Cultural enrichment.

      1. CE   2 years ago

        They want a campus that looks like America. Oh, wait....

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Amazing how immigrants are exempted from regulations and laws in a lot of these areas. In California they don't get arrested for many crimes. Many states provide free legal representation to non citizens. Etc. Etc.

    3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Weird, parents who ARE U.S. citizens get reported to the DOJ as domestic terrorists for wrong think and wrong speech, but people who clearly dont share American values and aren't citizens have to be protected.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        So it's an "American value" to support Israel?

        I happen to support Israel in the current conflict but I don't think this support is intrinsically American.

        1. Uilleam   2 years ago

          It's a Christian value, which most Americans are. But that wasn't his point you dissembling jackwang.

        2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

          They were threatening other students. Auto expulsion for anyone else fvckstik

        3. R Mac   2 years ago

          So dishonest.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            I wonder how many Jeffy’s would fit in a single landfill?

        4. damikesc   2 years ago

          They were forcing Jewish students to hide and not attend classes.

          That is un-American, no?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            It depends. If "forcing" is shouting and displaying mean words then no. In that case, cowering from words and demanding intervention by authorities is unAmerican.

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              Not sure what happened at MIT, but several of the videos at other campuses I’ve seen are clear examples of physical intimidation and harassment, including a group of Jewish students locked in a room while a mob is outside pounding on the doors, and a single Jewish student trying to walk to class surrounded by a mob that was impeding his ability to walk down the sidewalk.

              The point is that other students would have been punished, but these students were not because they’re not citizens.

              1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                Any foreign students doing this should be kicked out of the US. Case closed. Like we need more Muslim monsters here anyway.

              2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                Agreed. But just like in any confrontational public encounter, the distinction between aggressive speech and physical intimidation is fuzzy. And relying on the intended target to make that determination does not work.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  So maybe foreigners should refrain from protesting while they are a guest in our country. Avoids the problem entirely

        5. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          Yes it is, you fat piece of shit. Israel is a modern society that treats citizens equally and has the diversity leftist scumbags like you rave about. Hamas is a terror group that murders, kidnaps, and rapes innocent civilians.

          And o don’t believe for a second that you really support Israel.

        6. CE   2 years ago

          You don't have to support Israel to be American.
          But if you don't oppose Hamas, right-minded people would question not just your patriotism, but your humanity.

    4. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "MIT Explains Why It Didn’t Suspend pro-Palestinian Students Threatening Jews: ‘Visa Issues’"

      They are one of the few schools that exclusively uses American Express.

    5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Nothing to do with students from overseas who pay list price tuition, and their wealthy parents (and governments) who donate to the school?

      1. John C. Randolph   2 years ago

        MIT has many times more applicants than students. They could bounce every larval Hamasshole they've got overnight, and fill those slots the next day.

        -jcr

    6. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

      So? That sounds like a good thing. They have no first amendment rights here. They’re foreigners. Just visitors, not citizens.

  4. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    ‘I’m 12 and I advise the UN on climate change’
    By David Alexander - TheTelegraph - 10/11
    https://www.iscaninfo.com/article/13673721/%E2%80%98I%E2%80%99m-12-and-I-advise-the-UN-on-climate-change%E2%80%99

    The United Nations is hiring advisers as young as 12 to consult on climate change as the “Thunberg effect” takes off.

    Madhvi Chittoor, 12, skipped school to attend climate rallies after watching a documentary on the impact of plastics on the Pacific ocean.

    At the age of seven, and with the help of her parents, she published a book called “Is Plastic My Food?” on Amazon and last year she was selected to join a team of young advisers to the UN.

    Ms Chittoor is one of a growing number of young people advising world leaders on climate change.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Plastic in the water has nothing to do with climate.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Almost nothing people do has anything to do with climate.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        It's not about climate change or environmentalism, and it really hasn't been for a long time...it's about socialist economic policy--redistribution of wealth. The leaders of the movement readily admit as much.

        For example, let's look at the IPCC report on climate change...Let's see...it doesn't seem to be about the effect of climate on plants and animals (and humans). It does mention climatey things...It said that without action to address the problem, by the year 2100, hundreds of millions of people could be affected by coastal flooding and displaced due to land loss. "Impacts from recent extreme climatic events, such as heat waves, droughts, floods, and wildfires, show significant vulnerability and exposure of some ecosystems and many human systems to climate variability," the report warned.

        But mainly, the IPCC report seems to be about poverty and income inequality and funding needed to address it.

        The report also said climate change had the largest impact on people who are socially and economically marginalized. "Climate change will exacerbate poverty in low and lower-middle income countries, including high mountain states, countries at risk from sea-level rise, and countries with indigenous peoples, and create new poverty pockets in upper-middle to high-income countries in which inequality is increasing," [the report] said.

        But funding needed to offset the impact of climate change is lacking, the report warned, saying developing countries would need between $70 billion to $100 billion a year to implement needed measures. And efforts to reduce the effects of climate change would only have a marginal effect on reducing poverty unless "structural inequalities are addressed and needs for equity among poor and nonpoor people are met."

      3. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        (OTTMAR EDENHOFER, UN IPCC OFFICIAL): "Basically it’s a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization. The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War... First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.

        Rep. Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, made the revealing admission in a meeting with Democratic Washington Gov. Jay Inslee’s climate director in May. A Washington Post reporter accompanied Chakrabarti to the meeting for a magazine profile published Wednesday: “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal, is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all...Do you guys think of it as a climate thing? Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing,” he added.

      4. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: “No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits.... climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

        Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S undersecretary of state for global issues, addressing the same Rio Climate Summit audience, agreed: “We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”

        Monika Kopacz, atmospheric scientist: "It is no secret that a lot of climate-change research is subject to opinion, that climate models sometimes disagree even on the signs of the future changes (e.g. drier vs. wetter future climate). The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention. So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today’s world, this is the only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to reduce the scientific uncertainty."

        Researcher Robert Phalen's 2010 testimony to the California Air Resources Board: "It benefits us personally to have the public be afraid, even if these risks are trivial."

    2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      The Experts.

    3. Overt   2 years ago

      There is exactly one reason why the UN is welcoming 12 year old girls to its advisory panels, and it has nothing to do with their expertise on the climate or environment.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        Why do you hate children?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          You know who loves children?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Pluggo?

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

              I’ll bet he has a T shirt that says “Jeffrey Epstein is my spirit animal”.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Pizzagate?

          3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            According to Neal Boortz:

            "Allah loves the little children,
            All the little children of the world!
            Red and yellow, black and white,
            Loaded up with Dynamite!
            Allah loves the little children of the world!"

            1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

              Ah, miss Boortz on the radio.

          4. Eeyore   2 years ago

            The Gates Foundation

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Especially on Little Saint James Island.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                Is that the Epstein after-school club?

          5. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            Pedo Jeffy?

    4. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      ....why do left leaning collectivists keep trying as hard as possible to look like pedophiles?

      Im kind of wondering if its one of those things where they get off on doing it in broad daylight, seeing how ridiculous they can make it without anyone balking

      1. Anomalous   2 years ago

        They don't really try that hard. It comes naturally to them.

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        Shreek certainly has no shame.

    5. damikesc   2 years ago

      Because it's mean to criticize youngsters. Even if their idiocy is causing idiots to fuck up our world.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Off to the cornfield with you!

    6. CE   2 years ago

      Is she the reason we get paper straws now? Those things get soggy.

  5. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Lawsuit dropped by X against unbiased media matters. Elon has shown the length if manipulations MMFA went to in order to get the results they wanted, leading to many companies to pull ads.

    Jeff will be here shortly to proclaim this as wrong despite applauding defamation against Fox for DV.

    He will ignore MMFA themselves produced the garbage story, not guests. He will ignore X lost money unlike DV whose customers are the state. But he will rationalize why this suit is wrong and the one against Fox was right.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dont-be-manipulated-stand-x-elon-promised-x-files-suit-against-media-matters

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Truth Social has also filed lawsuits against a dozen media companies for falsely reporting financial statements. The coordinated reports claimed a loss of 73M when in reality the statements showed a profit of 35M. Only a few of the outlets have corrected stories since the lawsuit threat was made.

      https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/holdtwin-lawsuits-fraud-investigation-mark-bad-day-news-media-already-bad-year

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        Many media companies should be shut down, and their management and talent tried for federal election law crimes, and ultimately prosecuted under RICO statutes.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Lawsuit dropped by X against unbiased media matters.

      Jeff literally hardest hit. That's his paycheck.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Eating through his emotions as we speak.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          He had a pretty bad day yesterday after getting his ass kicked all weekend here. Maybe that was why he was bitchier than usual.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Has he ever had a good day here?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Fair point.

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          Jello puddin pop pacifier

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      Jeff will be here shortly to proclaim this as wrong...
      He will ignore MMFA themselves...
      He will ignore X lost money...
      But he will rationalize...

      Now I know why you accuse me of being fat: look at how many arguments you tried to stuff in my mouth!

      If Jesse were *actually* paying attention, and honest, he would note that when it came to most all of these lawsuits, including the Fox/Dominion one, I tend not to say anything in the early stages of the litigation, because so little is definitively known at this stage. The only people who tend to have much to say at the early stages of any lawsuit like this are the tribal boosters on either side.

      If MMFA committed fraud against X, then they should be punished for it.
      If Fox committed defamation against Dominion (and they did), then they should be punished for it (and were).

      I'm content to wait until the facts are revealed at trial and then form a more substantive opinion at that time.

      1. Uilleam   2 years ago

        Nobody cares what you think about anything.

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        You’re a morbidly obese groomer Marxist who pretends to be libertarian and shitposts here. one really cares what you think, as you have been so thoroughly discredited.

        Everyone here prefers that you go away forever. Barring that I hope you die.

  6. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Putting The Experts in charge of healthcare:

    Parents of Indi Gregory tell how their terminally ill daughter was in 'excruciating pain' before she died and say 'we didn't leave her side - we couldn't bear to leave her' after life support was turned off
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12766551/Parents-Indi-Gregory-tell-terminally-ill-daughter-excruciating-pain-died-say-didnt-leave-bear-leave-life-support-turned-off.html

    ...Indi's heartbroken parents today said they were 'angry, heartbroken and ashamed' following her death, accusing the NHS and the UK courts of 'taking away her chance to live' by stopping them from taking their baby daughter to Italy for treatment.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

      The NHS deliberately murdered that little girl just to prove a point about who the real bosses are.

      She would have gone on living happily a painlessly with breathing support. Four European hospitals said that they could do treatment to alleviate her condition. Two billionaires offered to pay her bills and any transportation costs. The Italian government offered free transportation. The pope tried to intervene. And they had the cops hold back her parents and they murdered her anyway.

      Everyone from the judges to the head of the NHS should be up on first degree murder charges.

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        The village will take your child to raise; or kill
        (or something like that)

        So the NHS is now into post birth abortion?

      2. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        When they ask the question; "Who radicalized you?"

        A - You did.

      3. Eeyore   2 years ago

        I'm somewhat thankful that all my parents died before covid. If they hadn't then I would have been on the news. That's never a good thing.

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      One of the more disturbing stories recently. And that’s saying something.

  7. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Inflation has driven Americans to raid their 401k accounts to afford their spittin tobaccy. Don't they know how great the economy is?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/inflation-battered-americans-raiding-401ks-pay-mortgages-and-rent

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Spittin tobaccy is the new currency.

      1. CE   2 years ago (edited)

        We use Diet Pepsi in these here parts, son.

        https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson/

        It works like this: Once a month, the debit-card accounts of those receiving what we still call food stamps are credited with a few hundred dollars — about $500 for a family of four, on average — which are immediately converted into a unit of exchange, in this case cases of soda....

        It’s possible that a great many cans of soda used as currency go a long time without ever being cracked — in a town this small, those selling soda to EBT users and those buying it back at half price are bound to be some of the same people, the soda merely changing hands ceremonially to mark the real exchange of value...

    2. HorseConch   2 years ago

      Bidenomics is working from the middle out or some other mumbled horseshit.

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Gold over 2k today just sayin

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Commodities like gold are not linked to inflation but demand. - pluggo

        1. Eeyore   2 years ago

          Demand for gold is linked to inflation.

    4. Chumby   2 years ago

      They could save thousands a month on their food bill if they just did this one simple trick of buying cheesy poofs at Sam’s Club. Click on the link for more tips!

  8. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Food Trucks.

    Residents of Irish Village Rage as Planned Nursing Home Is Scrapped to Make Way for ‘Male Adult’ Migrants
    https://www.amren.com/news/2023/11/residents-of-irish-village-rage-as-planned-nursing-home-is-scrapped-to-make-way-for-male-adult-migrants/

    A derelict hotel in Ireland that had been earmarked to be converted into a nursing home will now be used to accommodate an initial 170 adult male asylum seekers — and that figure could quickly rise to 400.

    The Department of Integration confirmed on Monday that the former Great Southern Hotel site located in Rosslare Habour would be transformed to house migrants and the new arrivals will be in place in a matter of weeks.

    “We anticipate that the building will be ready by the end of the month and that approximately 170 people will be in a position to move in as part of a phased move,” an email sent by the Green Party-led governmental department to local elected officials read.

    “It is likely to be male adults in this first phase given the shortage of accommodation for this cohort,” the circular added.

    The Irish integration department assured local officials that the accommodation would be “of a high standard” and “well-managed,” and vowed to disclose further details about the plans “as soon as possible.”

    The site was initially to be converted into a 90-bed nursing home, providing a vital service and generating employment opportunities for the local community, but these plans have now been scrapped.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Sign them all up for flight training school. Save money by skipping the “how to land an airplane “ portion of the training.

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      Weird how only young men need asylum.

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        Only the best and the brightest. I'm sure all these hard working young men are off to get good government benefits for their families.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Well, that's one way to throw a wet blanket on the "Free Palestine" sentiment in Ireland.
      🙂
      😉

  9. JesseAz   2 years ago

    The National Institutes of Health (NIH), under Dr Anthony Fauci’s leadership, infected 12 Egyptian fruit bats with a ‘SARS-like’ virus called WIV1 at a lab in Montana in 2018.

    The WIV1-coronavirus was shipped from the Wuhan lab the FBI believes caused the Covid pandemic and was tested on bats acquired from a ‘roadside’ Maryland zoo.

    …The 2018 experiment was carried out at the NIH’s Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Montana, which was overseen by Fauci, the former director of National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

    The research was a joint venture between the NIH’s Rocky Mountain Laboratories and Wuhan Institute of Virology collaborator Ralph Baric of the University of North Carolina.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/11/senators-probe-fauci-run-biolab-in-montana-where-scientists-conducted-bat-research-with-covid-like-virus-in-2018/

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

      See?!??! SEE?!?!? It wasn't Wuhan, the CCP is exonerated!!!

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        Zoonotic origin confirmed: The non-migratory African Swallow Egyptian fruit bats gripped the coconut virus by its husk spiky capsid.

        1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

          What about the raccoon dogs?

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            They mated with the fruit bats.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Let them all immigrate to the US.

        2. damikesc   2 years ago

          Damn Chinese people eating Egyptian fruit bats from their wet markets...

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            I blame fruit bat globalization.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      The phrase "fuck around; find out" comes to mind here.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        The fucking around was deliberate.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Yep. They fucked around. We found out. Fauci really needs to be behind bars at the least.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            If those bars are part of a sinking shark cage, then OK.

    3. Eeyore   2 years ago

      Sars will be carried by bats if we have to force it.

  10. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Defund the police. Eliminate bail. Make self defense illegal. Import people who support the Oct 7 attacks wholeheartedly.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    The West Should Welcome Gaza Refugees
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-west-should-welcome-gaza-refugees-asylum-seekers-hamas-terrorism-displacement-5d2b5890

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      How did that work out for Lebanon and Jordan?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        And Kuwait and Egypt.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      Shocked nobody from Reason wrote it.

    3. CE   2 years ago

      And when the WSJ says "the West," they mean California, not New York.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        Not Texas? Keep them all in Texas seems to be the answer most leftists want for the illegals coming over the southern border.

  11. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Oh! Happy Birthday and Fuck Joe Biden.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      If the birthday cake was made to look like a little girl, Biden would try to sniff the candles out.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Or shower with it

      2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        Or try to take showers with Ashley again...

  12. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    German Parliament Accepts Constitutional “Children’s Rights” Petition From Pro-Pedophile Activist Group
    https://reduxx.info/german-parliament-accepts-constitutional-childrens-rights-petition-from-pro-pedophile-activist-group/

    Among the rights listed within the petition’s text is the assertion that children have “the right to have a say in all matters that affect their emotional, mental and physical well-being,” and “the right to the free development of their personality.”

    “Sexual self-determination” is included in Article 2 of the Basic Law under the phrase “free development of personality,” a fact that Gieseking made certain to point out to his followers on his website.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      So that's why Jeff disappeared for a few weeks.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Reminder that in the 80's the German government deliberately gave young orphan boys to pedophiles because they thought their sexual interest in children would result in better overall care.

        It turned out exactly like you imagine it would.

        Any guesses what the peccadillo of the social scientist who proposed the project was?

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

          That does not surprise me.

          https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.israel/c/vC-wAlcJ_PU/m/WHwNHEWWt7gJ

    2. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      It is consistent with the sexual tastes of Kevin Alfred Strom.

    3. Eeyore   2 years ago

      After the right to die comes the right to be raped.

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        He right to starve to death is coming soon to a locality near you.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Canada has already moved beyond that.

  13. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Models, wrong?!?!?!?!?!?

    Global warming might not happen quite as fast as we thought – here’s why
    Plants will absorb more carbon dioxide than predicted, meaning models could be overestimating the speed which the planet will heat up
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/17/plants-absorb-carbon-dioxide-photosynthesis-trinity-college/

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Facts changed!

    2. Chumby   2 years ago

      The more CO2 that John Kerry and blue cities belch out, the quicker my forest grows. Woo hoo!

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        Their CO2 protects you and your forest protects them!

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Models based on 70 year old assumptions about atmospheric interactions might be wrong?
      That's impossible you conspiracy theorists, now let's give the UN and NGOs more power to enact impoverishing social and economic changes.

    4. Zeb   2 years ago

      I seem to recall a number of people have been predicting that for years.

    5. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Absorb more carbon and less water. This is why it needs to stop.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Why does bill gates want to clear cut forests?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          To fuck with people. Duh.

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          Maybe he just wants to branch out into new fields. Not sure. I’m stumped.

    6. Anomalous   2 years ago

      All models are wrong, but some models are useful propaganda.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        But some propaganda models are too fat, and Victoria Secret sales drop.

    7. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      That was discussed at least ten years ago, and there was already a handy rebuttal to it: The increased uptake results in unnatural rapid plant growth which causes faster plant deterioration and crop failure.

      Climate change is literally an unfalsifiable proposition.

      1. Square = Circle   2 years ago

        And don't forget that it also leads to a reforestation crisis in which the precious, light-colored-and-therefore-cooling sands of the Sahara are replaced by heat-trapping trees that make climate change worse.

    8. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Trust the science

    9. Eeyore   2 years ago

      I still can't find the proof that co2 is actually a green house gas. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. I find lots of anecdotes that it is just like the windows in your car on a hot day. Except it isn't glass and we don't live inside a car.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Some day you will wish for a high enough social score to get to live in a car.

      2. Obviously   2 years ago

        CO2 absorbed infrared radiation from earths surface that would have otherwise simply radiated out to space.

        https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2021/02/25/carbon-dioxide-cause-global-warming/

  14. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    The Dream Keeper Initiative: How San Francisco Defunded the Police for a Historic Racial Equity Cash Grab
    in 2020, san francisco announced it would defund its police department of $120 million to fund a racial equity program called the dream keeper initiative — here's how the money was spent
    https://www.dolorespark.pw/p/the-dreamkeeper-initiative

  15. JesseAz   2 years ago

    OpenAI is run by a nonprofit with a board, which clearly has extraordinary power to dismiss those in charge. The board operates the for-profit subsidiary so that the whole entity "balances commerciality with safety and sustainability, rather than focusing on pure profit-maximization," per the company. But Open AI employee/Tech Twitter provocateur Roon's take is perhaps best, that just because something is run by a nonprofit focused on erecting guardrails against sheer profit-pursuit doesn't mean best outcomes are necessarily achieved:

    I know Liz wasn't the roundup at the time, but why so much focus on this? The same thing happened to Project Veritas and it was almost celebrated by the writers here.

    The rules in place for non profits allow activists into the room to regulate what they deem unacceptable. They need to remove the regulations requiring these boards.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Her husband works there. We're getting the insiders scoop.

      Also, ENB hated Veritas because it embarrassed the Democrats.

      1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        Not simply the Democrats. Veritas embarrassed Planned Parenthood and the pro-aborts.

        1. HorseConch   2 years ago

          You mean they embarrassed the pro-women's healthcare people? Clearly, killing a full-term baby is health care.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      If the AI was so great, it could write its own code, employees not needed.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        Give it time..."self-aware" isn't just for movie AI villians.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        By the time it takes a coder to write the proper psuedocode for AI to generate the proper algorithm, a competent coder could have coded it.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Only if a coworker provides the proper “vibe”.

  16. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    "Just last night, three people—two of whom were journalists—were killed by Israeli strikes in southern Lebanon."

    Oh no, not journalists...

    Maybe next time the AP needs to move quicker after launching missiles.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Oh no, not journalists…

      In an ongoing war zone.

      Get back to me when you discover the missing journalists that were going to save thousands of lives and avoid an occupation of Gaza by warning everybody about Oct. 7th.

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      “There we were, just minding our own business, watching Hezbola launch rockets into Israel, when BLAM!”

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Hey, someone has to "document" the Resistance.

  17. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    a shortage of homes that's keeping prices elevated

    This can't be true. Wingnut.com says that home prices are rising because Biden and supply/demand imbalances don't matter.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Is Wingnut.com the Democratic party? Because they're the only ones who'd think that the Democrat's regulatory policies aren't to blame for shortages.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Strawman argument to defend Biden noted.

    3. R Mac   2 years ago

      You just made that up, and nobody believes you.

    4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Got a citation and a link?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Of course he will deny building supplies are still way up, regulatory costs to build new homes are up, polis and other dems are requiring more expensive regulations, Chicago requiring landlords to install EV chargers, etc.

    5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      But let's not talk about demand, i.e. the extra 20 million people looking for houses in the US. Can't blame that on Biden, right?

  18. Chumby   2 years ago (edited)

    Lobstah prices are affected by Biden’s high diesel prices. This affects the cost of bait, lobstermen fueling their boats, and later the transportation to places such as restaurants in New York. For reference, a local grocery store in inland Maine has lobster going for $8.99/pound for the small ones. Part of the referenced high price is that transportation and because it is New York. If I were there hankering for some lobstah, I’d be crabby about that price too.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

      Sumtin fishy in the state of Denmahk Maine.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Are you saying the lobstermen are trapped?

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        it will be a tough go for them to claw their way out of this.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          They will leave with their tail between their legs.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Inflation butter stop. Can't keep rolling like this.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              The lobstah industry is a shell of its former self.

              1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                I sea what you did there.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  He's boiling.

                  1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

                    That's .... insane boil logic!

                    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                      Don't get steamed up!

              2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                Will the Cheddar Bay Biscuits go the way of the lobstahs? People in my area think Cheddar Bay Biscuits are like The Host! It would be blasphemy to deprive them!

    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Would say you people in Maine can switch to Cuban sandwiches, but ham is way up too.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Given the high prices of pork under the Biden economy, I’d feel swinedled if I ordered a Cuban and the chef fucked it up.

      2. R Mac   2 years ago

        Sarc still knows where to get $6 lobster rolls.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          There are no Cuban sandwiches in Maine.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            At least none sarc has heard of.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Why we need more illegal immigration so he can get global food trucks.

    4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      To paraphrase Pinkard & Bowden, If they lobster, will they ever flounder?
      🙂
      😉
      https://youtu.be/r2JM2ea_bmU?si=HUCwMJucPR8KoOY7

    5. CE   2 years ago

      How do we get a story that mentions lobster prices, but no accompanying Lobster Girl pics?

  19. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Food stamp spending has doubled from $60 billion in 2019 to $120 billion in 2022, and part of that is due to people who are ineligible for the program receiving benefits anyway, The New York Post reported.

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/11/21/waste_of_the_day_cutting_food_stamp_fraud_waste_could_save_1_billion_monthly_993027.html

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Equity!

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        Charging for food is a construct of white supremacy. Do they want us to all live in food deserts?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Yup. If we could only get rid of white people, food, and everything else, would be free.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          I live in a food desert.

  20. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    The Ruling Class needs to get its new organs from somewhere.

    FIRST READING: All this assisted suicide has been a boon to organ donation
    A Dutch study found that Canada is now the global epicentre for organs harvested from people who have died by assisted suicide
    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/assisted-suicide-canada-organ-donation

    With more than 10,000 Canadians now dying from medically assisted death each year, a report out of The Netherlands has found that Canada is now the global epicentre of harvesting organs from patients who have undergone doctor-assisted suicide.

    A recent review published by Dutch researchers in the American Journal of Transplantation examined the growing medical practice known as ODE; organ donation after euthanasia.

    Of 286 worldwide instances of ODE identified by the paper, nearly half of them (136) were Canadian.

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      " 10,000 Canadians now dying from medically assisted death each year"

      Holy shit, I didn't know it was that big. I figured, maybe, 100 a year or something.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Canadians have lost the will to live.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          They're literally telling depressives and the physically handicapped that euthanasia is the best treatment.

          Turns out the slippery slope was actually a cliff.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Greta and the WEF approve!

          2. CE   2 years ago

            There's no actual death panels, just an organ harvesting recruitment drive.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          All down hill after the queen died.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago (edited)

            Dear Queen,

            I’m sorry that you died. I really like your song Bohemian Rhapsody.

            – Joey B

      2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        It's cold in Canada, hot in hell.

      3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        No, this is the fastest growing industry in Canada.

    2. MK Ultra   2 years ago

      Canadian hockey fans who lost the will to live.

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Don't make me think positively about Canadians committing mass suicide.

  21. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Sweden is suffering a grim wave of gang violence
    The country has Scandinavia’s highest rate of shootings and bombings
    https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/11/13/sweden-is-suffering-a-grim-wave-of-gang-violence

    The current wave of violence is largely driven by feuds involving Foxtrot. The gang draws its name from its leader, Rawa Majid, a 37-year-old Kurdish Swede. (“Rawa” sounds like räv, Swedish for fox.) Mr Majid immigrated from Iraq with his mother as a child and grew up in Uppsala, a city about 70km north of Stockholm. Over the past few years, police say, he has turned Foxtrot into the country’s biggest distributor of illegal narcotics, co-opting competitors or seizing their territory. He now directs these efforts from Turkey, where he moved after completing a prison stint on drug charges in Sweden in 2018.

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      I thought the Kurds were the good guys?

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Only if FOX News is all somebody watches.

        While they were victims of discrimination and genocide by both Saddam Hussein and the Ayatollahs of Iran, Kurds also helped the Ottoman Turks commit their genocide against the Armenians and also harber the same Anti-Jewish sentiments of many other Muslims.

        As Paul Harvey always observed: "It...is...not...One...World!"

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Pretty sure it wasn’t Fox attacking Trump for trying to pull out of the area because it would cause the Kurds to get slaughtered, but I could be mistaken.

    2. The Last American Hero   2 years ago

      So What the Fox says sounds like Aloha Snackbar?

  22. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Does anyone still do COVID tests?

    I've never taken one.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      What about bears in trunks testing?

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

        Can't let bears swim nude!

      2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        Easy.
        Open the trunk.
        If you get eaten, there was a bear.

        1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

          Schrodinger's bear,Is it nude or in trunks?

    2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Probably not, but Medicare still processes phony claims at $100 a pop.

  23. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Election rigging by dictators is too easy, and the West often looks the other way
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/election-rigging-by-dictators-is-too-easy-and-the-west-often-looks-the-other-way/2018/07/05/d2898ddc-53bf-11e8-a551-5b648abe29ef_story.html

    In their book “How to Rig an Election,” Nic Cheeseman and Brian Klaas issue a plea to American and European leaders: Take a more skeptical look at fraudulent elections and recognize the danger of endorsing rigged votes. The book is an instructive, though thin, primer showing that sham elections are depressingly common. Today, “more elections are being held, but more elections are also being rigged,” write Cheeseman, a professor at the University of Birmingham, and Klaas, a fellow at the London School of Economics (and a contributor to The Washington Post’s DemocracyPost blog). The authors warn that “counterfeit democrats” have figured out not only how to rig elections but also how to dupe Western observers and governments into accepting the outcome — and often emerge stronger.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      I'd say the Democrats learned rather well.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Good thing that could never happen here.

    3. CE   2 years ago

      That's insurrectionist talk right there. Lock him up until he signs the loyalty oath.

  24. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

    Why conservatives want to ban TikTok: Reason # 1254

    Bella Rose Mortel, a 22-year-old social media strategist at newsletter platform Beehiiv, went viral this week labeling herself a personality hire, and suggesting that other Gen Zers might embrace a more “playful” attitude at work. . The term “personality hire” refers to an employee beloved for bringing a positive attitude and seamless interpersonal skills to the office — usually to compensate for a lack of hard skills or productivity. . “A lot of my previous managers have told me that they really like the energy I bring,” she said, “and that’s the nicest compliment I could ever get in my whole life.” . In her series of TikToks, Mortel suggested Gen Z viewers might lean into a more playful approach at work. She said she interacts with her managers by using slang terms like “Hey king, “Slay,” and “Y’all ate.” (Being a startup, she acknowledged to Business Insider her workplace is a bit more lax than most. She also said she built rapport with her manager first, and now he’s even started to reciprocate, greeting her with, “Hey queen.”)

    https://www.insider.com/personality-hires-bring-soft-skills-to-work-2023-11

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Why so you have a 2 after your name?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Because he's full of shit?

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Everyone knows that governments and companies are banning it because of Chinese spyware, but every day Buttplug tries to pretend it's those darned conservatives hating what the kids like.

      Maybe Open Society didn't can him. I can't imagine another reason why else he'd keep pushing a discredited narrative. It's like his "Bidenomics is great" mantra.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Well, turd lies.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        But is it OK for "conservatives" to dislike retarded GenZ attitudes about life and work?

      3. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        Much like how it yelled "dick pics!" whenever the Biden foreign bribe scandal came up.

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  25. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

    Markets around the world are caught between sharply higher borrowing costs—likely here to stay—and a shortage of homes that's keeping prices elevated," reports Bloomberg. "That's made housing in many areas even less affordable, while property owners with resetting loans face increasing financial strain."

    Here's a red-hot investment tip that is also a long-time personal fantasy! It could also provide at least a partial solution to the housing shortage:

    Invest in real estate and construction/renovation firms that specialize in re-purposing closed houses of worship, 10,000 a year in the U.S., according to this video:

    Why Religion is Declining in Modern Societies | Ryan Cragun
    https://youtu.be/oPp-NTE6QwQ?si=6ysCv87l12XTwODu

    And, of course, get any zoning and land use regulations that stop this construction/renovation out of the way!

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Religion isn't declining, people are just moving to new ones.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        The new cathedral is going to be spectacular:

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/08/fbi-headquarters-chosen-greenbelt/

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Praise Gaia!

      3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Some, maybe, and I can't speak for Canada, but around one in three U.S. Citizens identify as "Nones" on the question on religion.

        While a portion may also believe us some form of the Supernatural, they are not to be pidgeon-holed and definitely do not cotton to organized religion and it's dogma and authoritarianism.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Nones are the most religious of all. Their new faiths are Wokianity and Gaia.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "is also a long-time personal fantasy!"

      I'm going to say this clearly. I think most Salafists, Fundamentalists, Hindutva and Ultra-Orthodox are far better people than the average American anti-theist.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        The daily headlines from "The Holy Land," the larger Middle East, North and Central Africa, the Indian Subcontinent, and Eastern Europe and Russia simply refute your "thought" (read: Feelz.)

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          200 million murdered by various anti-theists last century make your average jihadi look like a piker.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            Everything to do with Totalitarianism, nothing to do with Atheism, and you know this.

            And you still didn't show how your cavalcade of bloodthirsty Theocrats from all world religions are better than American Atheists or Anti-Theists.

    3. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      Seeing as how The State is the new God, perhaps they can all be converted to government facilities.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        As the video above shows about the skateboard arena made from a cathedral, uses of houses of worship are not a binary of Religion and State. Uses can be commercial or residential as well.

  26. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Wait until interest rates leave the left too little money to pay off all their voters...

    ‘This Is Not the America I Knew’
    The recent wave of nearly 130,000 migrants to New York City is angering Hispanic residents—enough to make them consider voting red.
    https://www.thefp.com/p/hispanic-immigrants-angry-nyc-migrant-crisis

    But now, he hears that migrants, who are currently pouring into New York City by the thousands, are given hotel rooms, laundry, and daycare. Mayor Eric Adams says that every night a migrant family is in the city’s care, the local government spends an average of $394 for food, shelter, and medical care. And that makes Marte, who now sells construction supplies, “angry.”

    “It’s the mindset of the piñata—somebody’s going to hit it, and everybody’s going to pick from it. And before, it was like, work, save, and enjoy your retirement with dignity. Not anymore.”

    He takes a deep breath. “It’s not fair.”

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      There is no cost! They bring their own jobs with them! All profit!!

    2. tracerv   2 years ago

      I'll believe it when I see it.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      That can't be right. Shika and others in the commentariat keep telling us that immigrants are ALWAYS net positive and NEVER use welfare of any sort.

  27. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    "Markets around the world are caught between sharply higher borrowing costs—likely here to stay—"

    It's almost like the goal is to drive the lower/and middle class family's into perpetual renting... Or make sure they will own nothing

  28. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    I reject the Western Capitalism that oppresses me and I'm converting to Islam.....

    Why Western Women Are Converting to Islam
    https://www.thefp.com/p/why-western-women-are-reverting

    Rice is among a new swath of TikTok users—typically non-Arab, left-leaning Western women—who consider themselves “reverts” to Islam, based on the belief that all people are born on a natural path to Islam and therefore revert, rather than convert, to the religion.

    There are currently scores of TikTok hashtags that include the word revert, including #WhiteRevert (1.6 million views), #BlackRevert (174K views), #JewishRevert (131K views), and #JapaneseRevert (278K). Biggest of all is the simple hashtag #revert, with 2.9 billion views, followed by #RevertMuslim (1.4 billion), and #MuslimRevert (525 million). At the same time, Osama bin Laden’s Letter to America, in which the terrorist justifies Al Qaeda’s hatred of the West and its attack on the Twin Towers, went viral this week on TikTok as young Americans declared admiration for his ideas.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      That aren’t serious unless they move to the Middle East.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        They’re bringing the middle east to the west.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

          Yeah, think globally, act locally.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            That means burkas, home imprisonment, and honor killings, right?

      2. Dillinger   2 years ago

        "get the fuck out of my house and find a job with that thing on" should do the trick.

    2. D-Pizzle   2 years ago

      What's the over/under on how many of them ever set foot in a mosque?

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Zero.

      2. Chumby   2 years ago

        They are mosquerading?

    3. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      Send the to gaza. They can go be Hamas Honeys.

    4. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

      It will be interesting to see how many rerevert when they find their new comrades do not welcome them with open arms.

      The reaction from existing Muslims will also be interesting.

    5. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      Privileged white women desperately seeking oppressed/victim status.

      Options are transitioning or wearing a burka.

      Wearing a burka lets them keep their tits.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        ^. exactly this

        it's not enough to just call yourself "bi" at the party anymore.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          probably still helps the fun though.

    6. Fats of Fury   2 years ago (edited)

      So the TIK TOK nonbinary gender swap fad among girls has switched to the Islamic conversion one. Is that a plus or a minus?

    7. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

      Fortunately, while Islam is the fastest growing religion, it is also the fasting shrinking religion also. Many new converts both quickly and quietly shrink away when they see the amount of regimentation and misery it brings to their lives.

    8. mad.casual   2 years ago

      1.6 million views... 174K views... 131K views... 278K... 2.9 billion views... 1.4 billion... 525 million

      No offense Ra's, but I've seen some of the "nom.nom.nom.nom. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. nom.nom.nom. Mmm Pizza" (x5) NPC videos and am confused as to why anyone believes these aren't just shy of random numbers spit out by TikTok's Chinese RNG?

  29. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    WHERE MY COUNTRY GONE?

    Airlines brace for record Thanksgiving air travel
    .
    Airlines expect record travel demand this Thanksgiving. Executives say they’re prepared for the hordes.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/18/thanksgiving-flights-bring-record-numbers-of-passengers.html

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      You’ll be cruisin the nearest airport looking for any kids that got separated from their parents?

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        You gay-fag Republicans still bring the QAnon? No one believes you.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

          Who said anything about QAnon? We’re talking about your known history here, twit. So, please tell us why you use a “2” after your handle.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Why is there a “2” on the end of your handle, Plugly?

        3. Chumby   2 years ago

          Ronald McFondled, you such a clown.

        4. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

        5. R Mac   2 years ago

          Hey pedo, the reporter that “debunked” Pizzagate just got arrested for child porn. Might want to stop with the Qanon talking point.

          https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/ex-news-site-editor-had-hundreds-of-child-sex-abuse-images-mass-da-says/3194061/

          The fact that you didn’t have the new talking point ready supports ML’s hypothesis that you’ve been fired by your pal Soros?

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            The FBI planted it.

            Isn't that the standard wingnut alibi?

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Just like they posted CP here under your handle, right?

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Did the FBI plant the hardcore CP link you posted to Reason and get your original handle banned for you?

            3. R Mac   2 years ago

              Only when the FBI plans it. But you pedos are legit.

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      The TDS-addled the ass-clown of the commentariat, turd, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  30. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    No additional information has come out about why the board stabbed Altman in the back.

    The hand holding that knife had seven fingers.

  31. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Sleepy Joe just lost the youth vote

    Biden seemingly confuses Britney Spears and Taylor Swift
    During the annual Thanksgiving turkey pardon, President Joe Biden seemingly confused Britney Spears with Taylor Swift, who is currently on the South America leg of her Eras tour.

    CNN

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      You are always thinking about the young ones.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Buttplug always endeavors to be in touch with the youth.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          He has his finger on the pulse of the youngest of society’s members.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            I wasn't aware one took a pulse by touching that particular part.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              He figured it was a stroke of good fortune when that idea popped into his head.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                If only the stroke was in his head.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                He just keeps rubbing it in.

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    3. damikesc   2 years ago

      The youth will never lose your love, though.

  32. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Situation deteriorates for civilians in Gaza...

    The leadership in Gaza has done all it can on this front.

  33. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Saying the quiet parts out loud.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-has-be-eliminated-another-dan-goldman-gaffe-or-call-assassination

    Trust fund stock guru Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY) can't stop saying stupid things.

    And so when Adam Schiff's budget mini-me piped up over the weekend to say that former President Donald Trump "has to be eliminated," eyebrows were raised over exactly what he meant.

    "His rhetoric is really getting dangerous. More and more dangerous. And we saw what happened on January 6th, when he uses inflammatory rhetoric. Now, in his recent Truth Social posts, is incredibly, incredibly scary for anyone uh, that, might be trying to work in government - and, it is just unquestionable at this point that that man can not see public office again. He is not only unfit, he is destructive to our democracy, and he has to be eliminated," Goldman told MSNBC's Jen Psaki.

    1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      That was crazy. Calling for the 'elimination' of a presidential candidate. To be fair, though, Goldman later apologized.

      Is it wrong to question his sincerity?

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        He’s sorry people realized he’s a raving lunatic hypocrite.

      2. Chumby   2 years ago

        As long as he avoided referencing a woodchipper, totes ok.

      3. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        Morning Joe projected that Trump would execute anyone who disagreed with him if he gets elected.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      It’s simply amazing how one man has driven so many people absolutely crazy.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Get in the way of people's grift and this is what happens.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Violence by me but not by thee.

  34. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    So Microsoft is taking over without taking over?

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Picking up the pieces of a failed venture.

  35. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Even as many Democrats in Congress have called for a cease-fire and questioned the Israeli offensive, Biden has remained adamant that Israel is exercising its right to self-defense...

    I can see where congressional Democrats would a problem with that last part. But Joe insists Israel can fire that shotgun in the air from its back porch.

  36. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...where a lobster roll costs $32.

    To be fair, it's thirty-two of today's dollars.

  37. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A new AI cancer detection model trained to spot pancreatic malignancies—the most deadly solid cancer— outperformed expert radiologists...

    But wait until you see Dr. Skynet's copay.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago (edited)

      AI only charges 2 bits.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        No.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Does that come with a shave and a haircut?

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

      Are we more concerned that it outperformed expert Chinese radiologists at the repetitive, mundane task of looking at all the cells on the slide or less concerned that it only beat out the discount expert Chinese radiologists?

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Outsourcing lowers prices.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Paging Doctor Theranos...

  38. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Time to change the definition of "recession" again.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_e03beb1a-8879-11ee-8136-2740bfe50add.html

    A new economic analysis of the U.S. economy projects a recession around the corner.

    “The US LEI trajectory remained negative, and its six- and twelve-month growth rates also held in negative territory in October,” Justyna Monica, senior manager, Business Cycle Indicators, at The Conference Board, said in a statement. “Among the leading indicators, deteriorating consumers’ expectations for business conditions, lower ISM® Index of New Orders, falling equities, and tighter credit conditions drove the index’s most recent decline."

  39. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    *snort*

    I can get a lobster roll for twelve bucks down the street.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Are you forgetting the $20/lb middleman markup --- er,, some call it "transportation" cost.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Paying a driver, for the vehicle, and for fuel costs money. Did you fail Econ 101?

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        No. It's three miles away.

      3. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      That’s just for the roll, if you want lobster in it, that’s extra.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        I was wrong, it's actually ten bucks. For four more you can get a cup of clam chowdah with it.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          How much more for a whoopie pie? And not one of those shitty ones they add mint to the filling.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Never bought one.

  40. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Whatever Milei's quirks, and the *huge* challenges he faces, his free-market views are a welcome break from the statism that has impoverished Argentina for decades.

    He will use the state to destroy the state.

  41. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Does anyone still do COVID tests?

    COVID is what was. When are they coming out with aliens test kits? Or (what was the distraction after that?) test kits?

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      (what was the distraction after that?)

      Once Asians started acing all the COVID tests, we had to stop using them.

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        Nice.

  42. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    File under "headlines that make me want to scream."

    "Should America Keep Celebrating Thanksgiving"

    Only if it's with tofu and seaweed and bugs.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      What about the shaming of white people?

  43. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...10 people share how reactions to the October 7 attacks have changed relationships with their friends and family, in ways they didn't expect.

    If your circle survived Floyd, Trump and COVID, Israel was the inevitable, definitive end.

  44. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    President Joe Biden turned 81 yesterday.

    I'm sure the dementia will improve.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      It's not dementia that's the problem, it's his age.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        No, it’s the dementia.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          No, it's the age. Every media outlet repeats that, including Reason. So it's just the age.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            And here I thought it was because Joe has an uncanny ability to fuck things up.

          2. R Mac   2 years ago

            He’s been a piece of garbage for half a century. What with supporting every war on drugs policy and actual wars. That’s why Reason was so reluctant in their support.

  45. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Markets around the world are caught between sharply higher borrowing costs—likely here to stay—and a shortage of homes that's keeping prices elevated...

    The global American Dream died in Wuhan.

  46. Sevo   2 years ago

    "...The board operates the for-profit subsidiary so that the whole entity "balances commerciality with safety and sustainability, rather than focusing on pure profit-maximization," per the company..."

    This is not going to end well.

  47. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    two of whom were journalists—were killed by Israeli strikes in southern Lebanon.

    Hopefully they were the ones who filmed the October 7 murder spree.

  48. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    The remaining few, in southern Gaza, that have supplies, are so short on critical infrastructure that they essentially operate like community clinics, not hospitals, providing only the basics.

    How big is Gaza that it can sustain 36 hospitals, capable of doing no-shit surgery?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      We were asking that question a few days ago when another commenter mentioned something about MRI machines needing to always be on and hence magnetized. They apparently found a weapons cache next to one such machine.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        all the guns were stuck to it & the idiots couldn't turn it off?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          https://reason.com/2023/11/16/xi-jinpings-in-the-house/?comments=true#comments

          Indeed, IDF video provided to the press shows grab bags with AK-47s, ammo, and grenades hidden behind an MRI machine at Al Shifa, per Conricus.

          https://reason.com/2023/11/16/xi-jinpings-in-the-house/?comments=true#comment-10320673

          THX1138 5 days ago (edited)

          “Imagine the carnage if they turn the MRI on.”

          See, this is the thing. MRI magnets are always on. They use supercooled superconducting materials that cannot be turned off (unless the owners wish to pay ~$15 million to replenish the liquid coolant to recommission the machine).

          Any ferrous materials in proximity to an MRI machine will be instantly pulled into or onto the machine. There are several instances of officers wearing sidearms into an MRI room and having the firearm unceremoniously leap from their duty belts and onto the machines.

          Obviously, any MRI machine that has “grab bags with AK-47s, ammo, and grenades” nearby is not functional and therefore is only being used as a prop to convince observers that the building is a “real” hospital and not being used as a cover for nefarious (Hamas) needs.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Here's some more regarding MRI machines.

          https://www.drbakstmagnetics.com/what-happens-when-you-turn-off-an-mri-machine/

          MRI and NMR machines generate a magnetic field that is always active even if the power is turned off. Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) uses radio waves to generate images of the interior structures and organs of the body by using a magnetic field.

          In short, MRI machines are never turned off because they need to be ready at a moment’s notice to save a life. They are also expensive to operate and maintain, so turning them off would be a waste of resources.

          MRI machines use a lot of power, so it’s critical to keep the magnet running constantly to save energy. The magnets are always present, reducing overall power consumption. Contrary to popular belief, MRI machines do not turn off the magnets at night. It is always ‘on’ and remains active even if the machine is not in use during a static magnetic field.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            love it. gracias.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      Here are some statistics for comparison:

      https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/indicators/indicator-details/GHO/hospital-beds-(per-10-000-population)

      If you assume each hospital has, say, 200 beds (I have no idea, I'm just making up a reasonable-ish number), then that would be 7,200 hospital beds. The pre-war population of the Gaza strip was 2,000,000 people. So the number of hospital beds per 10,000 population is 35.2, which is actually in line with places like Libya or Italy.

      Gaza is a really densely populated area.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        (I have no idea, I’m just making up a reasonable-ish number)

        It’s funny you made up a number to start then still used decimals.

  49. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    MADISON, Wisc. — A group of nearly two dozen people waving flags displaying Nazi insignia and chanting antisemitic rhetoric marched through parts of Wisconsin's capital city on Saturday, sparking condemnation from state and local officials.
    .
    Demonstrators at the march were part of the "Blood Tribe,” a right-wing, neo-Nazi group with hardline white supremacist views. The group, dressed in red shirts with "Blood Tribe" written on the back, marched in downtown Madison and on state Capitol grounds.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/21/neo-nazis-march-wisconsin-capital/71661638007/

    Okay Trump Cultists - time to write USA Today about their labeling.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Wow, two dozen idiots.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Feds.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Yup.

    4. JesseAz   2 years ago

      How could they tell the difference between them and all the pro Palestine leftists praising hitler?

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        The pro-Palestine leftists want to bomb the Jews whereas the far right Nazis prefer gassing them.

        1. Uilleam   2 years ago

          So if leftists and rightists all agree ideologically, what's the difference besides technique? You're not making any sense dumb dumb.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            So if leftists and rightists all agree ideologically, what’s the difference besides technique?

            now you get it
            they're both authoritarian shitheads

            1. Uilleam   2 years ago

              It's more nuanced than that, but you're still a pedophile, so that hasn't changed.

            2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              What beliefs and ideas do you assign the label far-left and far-right, Jeffy?

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                I'm not particularly interested in answering your question, ML.

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  You’re like the kid that takes his ball and goes home, except you never actually leave.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    The Eric Cartman of the Reason commentartiat.

                    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                      Soth Park depicts Eric Cartman as a conservative - a fan of Glenn Beck and Mel Gibson with his hatred of Jews and hippies.

                      Kyle is the Jew and Eric hates Kyle.

                    2. R Mac   2 years ago

                      The next joke writes itself.

                    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      Pluggo really didn't think his analogy through.

                  2. Chumby   2 years ago

                    Him going home would necessitate walking and therein lies the problem.

                2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  But somehow you never seem to lack interest when it's something you imagine you can harangue and demagogue about...

                  Funny that.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                    Yeah, funny that you are a complete asshole who uses my words against me as a weapon. Because no matter what I write to try to answer your question, you will manipulate it in bad faith to troll and bait me with it.

                    If I thought I could have an honest good faith conversation with you, I would do so. But I can't.

                    So here is your answer: go fuck yourself, Nazi

                    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      "Yeah, funny that you are a complete asshole who uses my words against me as a weapon."

                      Think about that for a second. I use YOUR words against YOU as a weapon.

                      I couldn't do that if you were scrupulously honest and didn't hold depraved views. You indict yourself, NaziJeff.

                      Why you're actually refusing to answer is because your invective and hatemongering is baseless, and answering would force you to admit it.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

                      I use YOUR words against YOU as a weapon.

                      Yes that’s right. Because if we were having a good-faith discussion, you wouldn’t use my words as a weapon. You would use my words as words, to foster a dialogue. It doesn’t matter how honest I am. Because, in your bad faith, you can always find a way to use even the most honest and good faith arguments in the most depraved manner as weapons.

                      If I were to answer your questions honestly and in good faith, I would be handing you a loaded weapon. Because you are an asshole. That is what you do. You take honest arguments and you turn them into grenades.

                      So my answer is: go fuck yourself, Nazi. you aren't worth shit.

          2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            So if leftists and rightists all agree ideologically

            The two have the same goal without similar ideology.

            The far left pro-Palestine need to eliminate Israel to have an equal socialist society since Israel is an "oppressor" state.

            The Nazis want to eliminate Jews to have a purer Aryan oppressive society.

            Fuck both of them - the far left and far right.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              What constitutes the far-left and far-right, Plugly?

            2. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        3. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Why are they saying Hitler was right then? Did anyone check to see if Soros is funding these 20 people as well?

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Conservatives have always hated Jews - at least since the Birchers were formed.

            Anti-Semites flocked to Ron Paul.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              "Anti-Semites flocked to Ron Paul"

              "From the River to the Sea" is a Ron Paul anthem? Why would the Democratic Party flock to Ron Paul, Plugly?

            2. Sevo   2 years ago

              Remember that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
              turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  50. Sevo   2 years ago

    JFree and other chicken little assholes hardest hit:

    "About three-quarters of Americans do not fear getting Covid-19 this holiday season, KFF survey finds"
    [...]
    "Overall, about three-quarters of adults say they are “not too worried” or “not at all worried” about getting Covid-19 over the holidays, and two-thirds say they are not worried about spreading the virus to people close to them, according to the new survey..."
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/17/health/covid-vaccine-holiday-concern-kff-survey/index.html

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Driving to grandma's house with a bear in the trunk.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      “About three-quarters of Americans do not fear getting Covid-19 this holiday season, KFF survey finds”

      Time to crack down on "misinformation" again.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        And for some two week lockdowns.

    3. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

      Why is KFC doing a survey about Covid?
      /sarc

  51. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    https://www.thenation.com/article/society/thanksgiving-debate/

    Sean Sherman argues that we need to decolonize Thanksgiving, while Chase Iron Eyes calls for replacing Thanksgiving with a “Truthsgiving.”

    Fuck off, bolshevik. Next.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Why does the GOP keep ginning up culture wars?

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      But the Right are the ones culture warring.

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

      Chase Iron Eyes

      Say there, uh, Chief Truthsgiving, how, I say “How” did you come by the name ‘Iron’? Did you get it from your ancestors who sat around the native ore mines, smelting furnaces, and forges or did your pappy’s pappy probably pick that up from somebody he heard somewhere else?

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        I'm sure there's a sacred narrative that would answer all your questions.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          Iron was used for practical purposes. Cutting edges and the like.

      2. mtrueman   2 years ago

        "Did you get it from your ancestors who sat around the native ore mines, "

        Iron comes from the sky in the form of meteorites. "Sky shit," I believe, it was called by some native Americans. They have used iron in tools for thousands of years. Humans are amazingly clever and resourceful. Don't underestimate them simply because they are not European.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Maybe as individuals, but some cultures were and are dramatically technically superior. Couple that with different social and commercial knowledge and values, and the history of conquest, even within North America before and after Europeans arrived, is easy to understand.

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            "but some cultures were and are dramatically technically superior"

            The natives who used iron from meteorites weren't necessarily technically superior. They simply used the materials at hand, whether they were wood, bone, stone or iron. They didn't need to mine it or smelt it. It came from meteorites. The notion native Americans are to be taken to task for inappropriate use of the word 'iron' in their names is ridiculous and bordering on bigotry.

            1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

              I like that you "unintentionally" thought Skeptic was saying the natives were the superior cultures.

              1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                I'm not sure what you mean. I don't think coming across a piece of iron on the ground and fashioning it into a spear head makes you any more technologically developed than doing the same with a piece of flint or bone.

                "I like that you “unintentionally” thought"

                Again, I'm not sure what you think I unintentionally thought, but I'm glad you like it.

              2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                Yup, clearly the people who waited 100 years for a lump of metal to fall from the sky had technology superior to those primitive people who had to mine thousands of tons of iron ore to then smelt tons of iron, and then make tools and weapons at scale.

                1. mtrueman   2 years ago (edited)

                  “Yup, clearly the people who waited 100 years for a lump of metal to fall from the sky had technology superior to those ”

                  There’s no need to wait 100 years. Iron meteorites have been falling to earth for billions of years already. Sweep enough dust from a large enough surface (ie the roof of a fair sized factory) and you’ll find iron particles of extraterrestrial origin. I think you might enjoy Werner Herzog's recent documentary Fireball: Visitors From Darker Worlds.
                  https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=37055671

                  I would define a technically superior process as one that consumes more energy. A rule of thumb, perhaps. Mining and smelting are incredibly energy intensive, and forests all over Europe and the east were chopped down to feed the insatiable fires. None of this was necessary for meteorite iron, which I suppose had already undergone intensive heating naturally as it passed through the earth’s atmosphere. All that was necessary was to stumble across a piece of iron and pound it into shape. I’m not sure why you consider this method to be more technologically advanced. Perhaps you could explain yourself.

        2. American Mongrel   2 years ago

          Not sure if sarcasm, but the northern natives never even made it to the chalcolithic. The meso Americans that did develop copper technology didnt make it to bronze before the europeans arrived.

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            The man's name is Chase Iron Eyes. Not copper or bronze. Some native Americans used iron from meteorites for tools. God only knows why you find this so disturbing.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              You do realize that the natives have used iron since Columbus, right? That's some 400 years.

              1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                Native Americans used iron before Columbus arrived. For a thousand years or more. It wasn't necessary to mine iron or smelt it. It falls from the sky in the form of meteorites. Sky shit, I believe they called it, and it could be used for tools as iron is noted for its ability to keep a cutting edge.

                1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

                  Cite?

                  I did a quick Google search and couldn't find any evidence that Native Americans were using iron they found in meteorites. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd like some evidence before determining if you're full of shit.

                  1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                    Check the wikipedia:
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy_in_pre-Columbian_America
                    For meteorites:
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_York_meteorite

                    Try Duckduckgo next time.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Given the history, the reason he's called "Iron Eyes" is probably due to post-Columbus iron working, not pre-Columbian iron working. Occam's Razor.

                    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "Given the history, the reason he’s called “Iron Eyes” is probably due to post-Columbus iron working, "

                      Maybe his mother was a fan of Iron Man comics.
                      Maybe his mother was a fan of Margaret Thatcher and had he been born a girl would have been named Iron Lady.
                      Occam's other toiletries.

                2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                  Sky shit? What about comment section shit?

    4. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      I always wondered when the left was going to call for banning Thanksgiving. I'm surprised it wasn't first on the list.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Yes, they banned Christmas and won't stop there.

        #wingnutfact

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          The TDS-addled assclown turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          You guys did it before in the 1930's.

          The Nazis’ War on Christmas

          #Pluggohatesfacts

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Nazis are your ideological brethren.

            Now grab your Tiki-Torch and chant about the "Jews" at the next Unite the Right rally.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Nazis were socialists. Their statements and platforms are socialist. You've been shown this hundreds of times at this point.

              Sevo has you nailed in regards to lying.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Nazis were fascists, you idiot. You can't rewrite political science.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  And you need to go back and read what Mussolini had to say about it. After all, he only created the thing.

                2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  How many times do you want me to post this link, Pluggo? You should know that every time you claim they weren't, out it comes.

                  Why Are We Socialists? - Joseph Goebbels

                  1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                    "Joseph Goebbels"

                    Adolf Hitler was the head of the Nazi party. As leader, it was his word that mattered, and Hitler was not a socialist, communist of follower of Marx or Lenin.

                    There was a leftish faction within the Nazi party, lead by the Strasser brothers. On gaining power had the leftists exiled or murdered. Aside from appeasing his sponsors in the aristocracy, Hitler wasn't interested in economics. He was a nationalist obsessed with regaining Germany's national greatness and fulfilling her destiny.

                    1. Sevo   2 years ago

                      "...Adolf Hitler was the head of the Nazi party. As leader, it was his word that mattered, and Hitler was not a socialist,..."

                      trueman is full of shit.

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                      You and shrike are pure retards.

                      ‘Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’
                      .
                      ‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. .

                      .
                      ‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic..
                      ‘We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…

                      Him and Mussolini both advocate for socialism. They just thought in involved state control through private entities. They felt the biggest failure in communism was direct control while they wanted full indirect control.

                    3. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "You and shrike are pure retards. "

                      I disagree.

                      "The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. "

                      It's not surprising that Hitler wanted to redefine the word to fit his purposes. Just as you wish to redefine Fascism for similar reasons. In those days socialism had positive connotations. Political parties often name themselves to fit the zeitgeist. Look at the Conservative party of Canada, for example. In 1942, they changed their name to the Progressive Conservative party, again to conform with the times. Sixty years later, 'progressivism' falling out of fashion, they changed it back to the Conservative party. Names are just labels. You have to look at their actions to see what they are really all about.

                      "Him and Mussolini both advocate for socialism."

                      Mussolini rejected Socialism. He founded the Fascist party and once in power worked for reactionaries in the church and business. Hitler was never interested in Socialism or Marxism, and instead was always a committed nationalist.

                    4. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      God damn you guys are ignorant to history. Mussolini himself said he was saving socialism as well.

                      Have you and shrike ever read a book with primary ssources? It would save you from demonstrating your utter ignorance. Mussolini was very clear with his beliefs.

                      I know you leftists have to keep believing your ideas have never been tried. But this is getting fucking tiresome arguing with the ignorant.

                    5. Chumby   2 years ago

                      They will get it reich this time.

                    6. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      "Adolf Hitler was the head of the Nazi party. As leader, it was his word that mattered, and Hitler was not a socialist, communist of follower of Marx or Lenin.

                      Goebbels wrote it but Hitler gave that speech again at Nuremberg you dishonest retard.

                      In fact Hitler claimed to be a socialist or praised socialism in almost every single speech he ever gave.

                      Not only was the party itself called the National SOCIALIST German WORKERS' Party, it's fucking constitution and national platform demanded the nationalization of corporations and industry.

                      "13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).
                      14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises."

                      And they did it too, nationalizing 60% of German industry before WW2.

                      How are you so absolutely fucking ignorant?

                      "Look at the Conservative party of Canada, for example. In 1942, they changed their name to the Progressive Conservative party, again to conform with the times."

                      NO THEY DIDN'T! They merged with the Progressive Party of Canada (which wasn't "progressive" at all in the current usage of the word) and merged the names of both parties.

                      "Sixty years later, ‘progressivism’ falling out of fashion, they changed it back to the Conservative party"

                      NO THEY DIDN'T! They merged with the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance and because it was an equal merger both parties wanted a new name.

                      You guys just love to make shit up.

                    7. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "Goebbels wrote it but Hitler gave that speech again at Nuremberg you dishonest retard."

                      Hitler said a lot of things. You'd be a fool to base your argument on the words of this man. That you insist he's an authoritative and final voice in the matter is shameful obeisance.

                      "it’s fucking constitution and national platform demanded the nationalization of corporations and industry."

                      All just words on paper. Hitler wouldn't have become chancellor without the say so of Papen and Hindenburg. Did they choose Hitler because they thought he was a Socialist? No, they knew that for Hitler socialism was merely a sop to the masses and not to be taken seriously. Hitler privatized the banking sector, previously nationalized under the Weimar, and let the industrial giants get richer and do their thing. Small businesses carried on as before. No liquidation of the capitalists, clerics, aristos, or fatcats. Jews and the Left didn't fare so well.

                      The Tories sometimes called themselves Conservative, sometimes Progressive Conservatives, though they were never really progressive. The North Koreans called themselves Democratic, but they aren't. It's basically a family operation. Don't get taken in by fraudulent self labeling. The Nazis did have socialistic programs, and during war time, these increased dramatically. But the same could be said of anywhere. Look at the UK, a self styled Kingdom, which had an increasingly socialistic economy as war progressed.

                3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Fascists were literally socialists trying to save socialism dumbass. Again. You've been given their statements and policy platforms.

                4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                  And which major US party now wants government-corporate "partnerships"?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    I believe it starts with a "D" and rhymes with "rats".

                    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                      But the other guys are fascists.

              2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Oxford dictionary:

                fascism
                .
                An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
                .
                The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.

                Now STFU

                1. Chumby   2 years ago

                  Why did you post a link to cp in the comments?

                2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  The Nazi Party:

                  Why Are We Socialists?

                  We are socialists because we see in socialism,that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

                  Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

                  The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism’s nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.

                  The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of wages, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day — though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform — but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the fatherland. The bourgeoisie does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeoisie and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.

                  We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers’ state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.

                  Why a Workers’ Party?
                  We are a workers’ party because we see in the coming battle between finance and labor the beginning and the end of the structure of the twentieth century. We are on the side of labor and against finance. Money is the measuring rod of liberalism, work and accomplishment that of the socialist state. The liberal asks: What are you? The socialist asks: Who are you? Worlds lie between."

                  Sorry Pluggo, you're a socialist.

                3. Sevo   2 years ago

                  The TDS-addles ass clown turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                4. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Left corrupts words all the time. Doesn't make it factual.

                  See the primary sources declaring their platforms you fucking retard.

                  1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                    "Left corrupts words all the time. "

                    So, why is it so important to you to defend and promulgate Hitler's definition and usage of the word 'socialist?' Do you think his use was sincere, uncorrupted and correct? Is that why you choose to accept Hitler's usage?

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Let's see. Read the words from a primary source or push a narrative to cover for the left... let me think on that dummy.

                    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "Read the words from a primary source or push a narrative to cover for the left… let me think on that dummy."

                      Taking the words of Hitler or his minions at face value is a mistake. Hitler was a demagogue who said whatever he thought was effective at gaining support. Truth wasn't important to him. That's why I find it strange that you would turn to the Nazis' words to get to the truth of the matter. Why are you insisting that only Hitler's notion of what is and what isn't socialism and fascism? Do you also think Franco was a socialist? The Romanian Iron Guard? The Revisionist Zionists of Jabotinsky? Can you clarify your ideas?

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Try harder next time.

              Here's Benito Mussolini, the founder of Fascism:

              Religion is a species of mental disease. It has always had a pathological reaction on mankind.
              - July 1904

              Marx was the greatest of all theorists of socialism.
              - March 1908

              You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a socialist. You hate me because you still love me.
              - 1914

              This is what we propose now to the Treasury: either the property owners expropriate themselves, or we summon the masses of war veterans to march against these obstacles and overthrow them.
              - June 1919

              We deny the existence of two classes, because there are many more than two classes. We deny that human history can be explained in terms of economics. We deny your internationalism. That is a luxury article which only the elevated can practise, because peoples are passionately bound to their native soil.
              We affirm that the true story of capitalism is now beginning, because capitalism is not a system of oppression only, but is also a selection of values, a coordination of hierarchies, a more amply developed sense of individual responsibility.

              - June 1921 - He's obviously an anti-capitalist

              State intervention in economic production arises only when private initiative is lacking or insufficient, or when the political interests of the State are involved. This intervention may take the form of control, assistance or direct management
              - April 1927 - He did that quite a bit, either through direct control or by coercion.

              The citizen in the Fascist State is no longer a selfish individual who has the anti-social right of rebelling against any law of the Collectivity.
              - 1928 - Obviously a collectivist.

              All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.
              - 1928 - Need I say more?

              The Socialists, and I am still one, although an exasperated one, never brought forward the question of irredentism, but left it to the Republicans. We are in favour of a national war. But there are also reasons, purely socialist in character, which spur us on towards intervention.
              - December 1914

              The Electoral Reform will pass. The scrutiny of lists and proportional representation will pass. That will determine, for obvious reasons, the great coalitions—the Socialist-Leninist, the Clerical-Popular, and, lastly ours, which might be called the ‘Alliance for the Constituent,’ the Republican Alliance or the group ‘interveners’ of the Left.
              - July 1919 - Considers Fascism to be of the political left.

              Our position is different as regards the Socialist Party. In the first place we are careful to make a distinction between party Socialism and the Socialism of Labour.
              - June 1921

              It was inevitable that I should become a Socialist ultra, a Blanquist, indeed a communist. I carried about a medallion with Marx’s head on it in my pocket. I think I regarded it as a sort of talisman… [Marx] had a profound critical intelligence and was in some sense even a prophet.
              - 1932

              Fascism is a form of socialism and of the political left.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                fascism
                .
                An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
                .
                The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.

                Oxford dictionary

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  You're replying with a dictionary definition made after the fact by a group that desperately wants to have Fascism on the far right so as not to discredit the Communists and socialists on the left, a number of whom run the universities such as Oxford and are part of the Labour Party.

                  I'll trust the guy who created it to define it, thankyouverymuch.

                  1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                    Mussolini rejected Socialism to found Fascism. Fascism was fine with private property, the church, and private businesses. Socialists were seen as the enemy and were persecuted. Hitler and Franco were even more antagonistic towards the Left.

                    1. Zeb   2 years ago

                      There are tons of cases of different kinds of socialists and communists fighting each other. It is not surprising that fascists and international socialists would be in opposition.

                    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "There are tons of cases of different kinds of socialists and communists fighting each other."

                      There are cases where non-socialists fight each other. World war one is a good example. The Left has it in for private business, the church, and the aristocracy above all. Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco were all extremely tolerant of these groups, while Stalin purged them mercilessly.

                      I understand if you consider yourself of the right, your impulse is to distance yourself from the Nazis. My advice is to accept the ties and commonalities and engage in self-criticism to root out the evils of fascism. Most of America's Right seem to have done this already, rejecting the bigoted nationalism and eugenics of the Nazis.

                    3. Zeb   2 years ago

                      "The right" isn't one thing. Traditional American conservatives are pretty much as different as you can be from Nazis. I really don't care if you want to call fascists and nazis left or right. They are what they are and were undoubtedly collectivist and socialist and we know that because they fucking said so. There are lots of different kinds of socialism. Not all are even Marxist.

                    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                      Fascism wasn't anything other than cultural socialism.

                    5. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

                      Volkswagen was a government created and and government owned operation.

                    6. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

                      Lenin restored some private property ownership too. So did Castro and China.

                    7. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "“The right” isn’t one thing. "

                      Neither is Fascism. Franco and Mussolini cooperated with the Catholic church, while Hitler was antagonistic. Anti-semitism was a big part of Naziism while Mussolini welcomed Jews into the highest positions of his party.

                      " I really don’t care if you want to call fascists and nazis left or right. "

                      You should care if you believe words have meanings and are suspicious of attempts to re-write history for today's convenience.

                      "They are what they are and were undoubtedly collectivist and socialist and we know that because they fucking said so."

                      I don't know where this 'collectivism' comes from. Hitler was a nationalist since the days of his childhood in school. He had no interest in promoting the collectivity of Germany as long as it included Jews and Slavs. He was exclusively interested in promoting the German nation. The two first letters in Nazi stand for nationalism. The socialism part of the renaming was to attract voters who voted for Germany's socialist parties, the majority at the time and still are today. Nazi Germany did incorporate some socialist institutions. Strength Through Joy is the best example. A government run tourist agency organizing affordable one class fits all cruises to the Norwegian fiords as well as hiking, camping, sports and arts and crafts. Financed through funds stolen from the unions and run by Strasserite Robert Ley. It was one of the more popular Nazi initiatives. Gunther Grass, a social democrat drafted into the Waffen SS as a teenager, writes of all this in his Danzig Trilogy and other later works.

                      " Traditional American conservatives are pretty much as different as you can be from Nazis."

                      I agree. I don't see someone like George Will having much to do with the Nazis. Anti-semites and KKK types, on the other hand, as well as the business class, Ford, Bush, IBM, were keen enough on the Nazis to invest there.

                    8. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                      Note shrike nor misconstrueman ever utilize primary sourced evidence for their bald assertions.

                      All about pushing incorrect narratives.

                    9. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                      Hey, weasel, Italian and German fascists were not fine with private business. Under threat, they forced enterprises to accept government leadership and planning. Does that sound familiar today?

                  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    He truly is retarded.

                2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

                  “Nooooo! Don’t look at what they actually said! Look at how post-war Stalinism decided to define it.” – t. Buttplug

                3. Sevo   2 years ago

                  turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

              2. Zeb   2 years ago

                I find the whole "is fascism right or left" argument pointless. It carries elements of both, particularly in the Nazi version. Whatever else it is, it is collectivist and socialist and as such has pretty much zero resemblance to the American right, as opposed to what the idiot buttplug always tries to claim. "Right wing" only means anything in context and the American right and European right are very different.

                1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

                  "it is collectivist and socialist". Yeah, this. You can tell who the Socialists are by how desperately they try to distance themselves from the Fascist variety.

  52. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Inside the restaurant economics of Red Hook Lobster Pound, where a lobster roll costs $32.

    Above Article paywalled, but here's a similar article that says the reason lobster rolls are expensive is because lobster is expensive.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Also i'm sure i can find an article that explains how the restaurants in New York are expensive is because New York is expensive.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out why when I go to the hole-in-the-wall takeout Teriyaki joint in Seattle with my daughter, it costs damned near $50 for the two of us. I remember not so long ago when $50 for two would be a decent dinner in a sit-down restaurant.

        Oh... maybe it's because the guy on the grill is making $27.00 an hour.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

          You mean that $27/hr isn't coming out of that hole-in-the-wall's Greedy Capitalist owner's pockets? How many mansions and yachts are enough? /sarc

  53. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'The board operates the for-profit subsidiary so that the whole entity "balances commerciality with safety and sustainability, rather than focusing on pure profit-maximization," per the company.'

    Don't they know that ESG is over?

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      ESG will never be over. They're just rebranding.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        It's a re-Building Back Better year.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Let’s Go Branding

  54. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'As long as Hamas clings to its ideology of destruction, a cease-fire is not peace," wrote President Joe Biden in a Washington Post op-ed this past weekend.'

    How long before Karine walks this back?

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      Well, it's about 3:17 pm Eastern, what time does Joe sun-down?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Tuesday.

  55. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Does anyone still do COVID tests?

    Pretty much everyone I know is still taking COVID tests. Because pretty much everyone I know-- except me-- has had COVID multiple times across the last few months, and the way they knew they had COVID is they took a test.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      It's still a get-out-of-work free card, so yeah.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        you'd think it was 2020 @my office with the everybody is home with covid

  56. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    And ML smiles

    'Epidemic' of anti-transgender violence highlighted in new report

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/epidemic-anti-transgender-violence-highlighted-new-report/story?id=105036934

    Thirty-three transgender and gender-nonconforming people have been killed by violence in the United States since last year's Transgender Day of Remembrance on Nov. 20, 2022, according to a new Human Rights Campaign report.

    Twenty-six of those people were killed in 2023, the report published Monday states.

    1. Uilleam   2 years ago

      LOL nobody is buying into that crap.

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago

        The implication that these 33 people died from being violently killed for being transgender is pretty lame. Just doing a quick browse of the names, here are some causes of death:
        "YOKO was killed when they were struck and killed by a driver of an SUV on September, 19, 2023. The driver fled the scene."
        "DéVonnie was shot and killed on August 7, 2023, during an altercation with a security guard just one day after her birthday, according to news reports and social media."
        "Tortuguita was shot and killed by Georgia state troopers in Atlanta, Georgia on January 18, 2023 during an ongoing protest "

        Just because a transgender person died doesn't mean they were killed for being transgender.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          It's telling, that when parsing through the report, that they deliberately included robbery/burglary and vehicular crashes (hit and run, vehicular homicide) to inflate the numbers.

          The report, by its very nature, is dishonest.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

          Yeah, when you dig into the actual report that chemtard breathlessly cited, they were either killed by their partners or were sex workers who are already in an at-risk demographic.

          And 33? That’s a slow weekend in Chicago.

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Now ask Lying Jeffy how many of those trannies were attacked while doing sex work or by their significant other.

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

          45% were killed by SI's or family.

          86% were black men pretending to be women. Sex workers?

    2. MT-Man   2 years ago

      How were they killed what is the background is this trying to create slimy truth? Is this word salad association again? killed = anti hate crime or is it other forms of accidents/crime?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

        Most are male prostitutes, which I know Jeffy knows, but telling the truth is not what Media Matters pays the big bucks for.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Just as we treat Pluggo, we should always read through Jeffy's links as well.

      2. Chumby   2 years ago

        Several in Georgia. Perhaps Pluggo didn’t want to pay them for their services. Understandable since it looks like he lost his source of income.

        Several more in Chicago; being the deep blue city that it is, possibly due to random violence.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Those trannies were killed because they were in MAGA country!

          — Lying Jeffy

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Just ask Jussie Smollett.

    3. R Mac   2 years ago

      One steps forward, two steps back, amiright?

      https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1726943808997228726

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        To be fair, crying "I'm being discriminated against!" after breaking someone's leg is totally a chick move.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          True.

    4. Chumby   2 years ago

      Didn’t realize they went to the Capitol to peacefully protest.

    5. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      OK, let's parse this here.

      From the article: The majority of the victims killed in the last year were people of color, most of whom were Black transgender women. More than 78% of the victims were under the age of 35, and the perpetrator was known in only 66.6% of the cases, according to the HRC report.

      Almost half of those victims were killed by a friend, family member or intimate partner, the HRC report states.

      So wait a minute, these aren't random attacks, they're by someone close to them.

      From the report: https://reports.hrc.org/an-epidemic-of-violence-2023

      We do not include every death of a transgender, gender-nonconforming, or non-binary person. To be included:

      1. The death must have occurred in the United States, including Puerto Rico and Outlying American Territories.
      a. Deaths which occur in other countries, even if the victims are Americans, are not included.
      2. The death must have been committed by another person, either directly or through contributions to the circumstances that resulted in the death.
      a. This means that suicides and death from illness and substance use are not included.
      3. The cause of death must be confirmed by authorities to be a homicide and/or caused by another person.
      a. “Authorities” includes official statements (or press reports of official statements) from law enforcement and/or lawyers and advocates involved in the case.
      4. Violence, including structural violence, must also be a component of the circumstances, even if the perpetrator did not set out to kill the victim.
      a. Thus, deaths due to robbery/burglary, hit-and-run and vehicular homicide, and deaths which occur at the hands of the police/while in police or law enforcement custody, are included, in addition to deaths from homicide, and manslaughter.

      So they're including a lot of deaths that have absolutely nothing to do with the person's status such as robbery/burglary and vehicular crashes.

      Basically, the report is a load of shit.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        “and advocates involved in the case.”

        If you can’t trust advocates to give accurate data, who can you trust?

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        The, seemingly earnest;
        1. Count to five.
        a. Don't count to any other numbers except five.
        makes me want to murder them whether they're trans or not.

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Look, the best way to get murdered is to live in a dysfunctional relationship with someone else who also has psychotic problems. Bonus points if you act like a deranged asshole.

      4. Super Scary   2 years ago

        " the perpetrator was known in only 66.6% of the cases, according to the HRC report."

        So in the remaining 33.4% they just assumed it was the result of violence against a transgender person, not just regular old person-on-person violence. Sort of like any time a white person does something to a black person, it's a hate crime, regardless of what actually happened.

    6. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Thirty-three transgender and gender-nonconforming people have been killed by violence in the United States since last year’s Transgender Day of Remembrance on Nov. 20, 2022, according to a new Human Rights Campaign report.

      These are the dumbest, most meaningless studies that can possibly be produced. In the old days, Reason was good at debunking these types of loony-bin research studies.

    7. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      No no no. You all are missing the point. Who cares how they died. They're dead! That means they aren't around anymore to groom children and convert them into trannies! They aren't around to perform in drag shows in front of children and entice them to put dollar bills into their hairy G-strings! Thirty-three more perverts and pedophiles are dead! Time to celebrate! Amirite, ML?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "Who cares how they died."

        The people who you're trying to smear as their killers do, Lying Jeffy.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Using bullshit lefty talking points to smear his enemies is so Lying Jeffy.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          But I didn't say you killed them. I just said you should be happy they are dead. Thirty-three more perverts, groomers and pedophiles removed from society. What's not to like?

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Your strawman is still made of straw leftist retard.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              So they're not perverts, groomers and pedophiles?

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                When did we start talking about you here?

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Jeffy, please seek help for your mental state and condition.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          But what is wrong with 33 dead perverts, groomers and pedophiles?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Sounds like a good start.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              Right? Let's hope next year there are twice as many dead trannies! Who's with me?

      3. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Man you're having a bad week. Get called out then resort to attempting to attack people with your own strawman. Just sad.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          The really sad part is that it's only Tuesday.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Just means he has already finished 2 turkeys for Thanksgiving. A week long binge for Jeff.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              His gravy boat is large enough to transport several asylum seekers.

    8. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      So a tiny sliver of murder victims in the United States of America are transgender?

    9. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago (edited)

      haha please.

      this is like when they try to convince us 1/3 of american kids are going hungry but the definition of going hungry comes from a survey that includes “sometimes I worry about the cost of groceries”

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Hey, the leftists told us they would use language as a weapon, and that words can mean anything they want. Did you not believe them?

    10. R Mac   2 years ago

      Well lookie here, Lying Jeffy is just repeating the leftist talking point of the day.

      https://twitter.com/MostlyPeacefull/status/1727010458735956363

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        The ActBlue memo must've gone out maybe 2 hours ago at this point.

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        No no no. The leftist talking point is that we should be sad that they are dead and that we should assume that they were all killed by acts of hate. That's all wrong. We don't know how they died, and we don't care; we should just be happy that 33 more perverts are gone! Right?

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          While I'm happy your burning calories by flailing your arms back and forth, you are still being retarded. The only bias you've exposed is your own.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          If it's getting you in a lather, then it's probably good news.

        3. R Mac   2 years ago

          No, what’s important is it’s a bullshit leftist talking point that was repeated by both the Democrats in the White house and the democrats in the corporate press, and that’s why you repeated it.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Don't you know how scripture works?

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            No, what's important is that 33 pedophiles are dead! Isn't that something to celebrate?

            1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

              I'm sure Sarc will be around soon to condemn you for putting words into other people's mouths and arguing against that, instead of what they actually said.

      3. mad.casual   2 years ago

        No one should be discriminated against simply for being themselves... unless simply being yourself involves being a tranny-murdering black man, then you should probably be locked up.

    11. Zeb   2 years ago

      How does it compare to non-trans people in similar circumstances?
      I remember seeing something a while ago that tried to make it sound as if trans people were being killed at an alarming rate. But looking at murder rates as a proportion of population, trans people turned out to be less likely to be murdered overall than people in general.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        Zeb, now, c'mon. You and I have both read so many comments here about the damn trannies to know that they are perverts, groomers, pedophiles, and harmful to children. And now we learn that 33 of them died last year. We right-thinking libertarians should be asking "how does it compare to non-trans people, and let's do more of it!"

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          I'm not sure what you are trying to say. But from my best guess, I'd say you are not being fair to the positions of most commenters here. I don't want anyone to get murdered.
          The piece you posted is clearly trying to create the impression that trans people are being targeted for violence because they are trans. I'm sure that does happen, but the data there mostly seems to show that being killed for being trans is very rare. Even if there were more actual murders in there, it's still such a small number that it is not really meaningful or statistically significant.

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            It’s a leftist talking point being pushed to, ironically, drive hatred against the left’s enemies. See my link above that shows KJP spreading the same thing. If people are so evil they’re running around murdering people for being trans, then it dehumanizes them and justifies violence against them.

            And here’s Jeff pushing it in the exact same manner.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              R Mac, do you think I am dehumanizing you by posting that article? Do you think I am inciting violence against you by posting that article?

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          4th strawman in a row by Jeff to defend his own leftist bias being easily countered using actual arguments.

    12. JesseAz   2 years ago

      22 people died by cows last year.

      https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1726699034004644126

      They counted the trans mass shooter. Lol.

      Define epidemic dumb piece of leftist shit. Others have already pointed out how false your citation is.

      Just a dumb person jeff.

    13. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Museum curators are travelling back in time to save the trannies from misgendering

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/20/trans-roman-emperor-hitchin-museum-claim-pronouns-woke/

      Elagabalus was such a degenerate his own grandmother plotted to get rid of him

    14. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair, Jeff.

    15. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago (edited)

      The White House paints the 26 transgender people as victims whose deaths were tragedies linked to their gender identity. Several family members of the deceased even called the deaths the result of “targeted shootings,” but none of their accounts or the reports on their loved one’s death produced a direct link between the fatal violence and the transphobia the White House claims has gripped the nation.

      https://thefederalist.com/2023/11/21/3-of-the-trans-people-eulogized-by-biden-admin-died-attacking-innocent-strangers/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=ae&utm_campaign=memail&seyid=102608?utm_campaign=ACTENGAGE
      While several of the 26 people listed died in hit-and-runs, shootings, and domestic violence that plague cities all across the U.S., at least three were killed while committing acts of violence.

      What HRC didn’t mention in its description honoring the man who used “they/them” pronouns is that Teran was only shot by officers because he fired first. When cops barged into the camp in an attempt to clear it of protestors, Teran blasted four pepper-ball rounds through his 9 mm pistol at them. His projectiles seriously injured a state trooper, which prompted nearby officers to return fire.

      Banko Brown, a 24-year-old woman who was shot and killed by a security guard at a San Francisco Walgreens in April after allegedly shoplifting, also made the White House’s list. The guard who fired the fatal shot claimed Brown “repeatedly threatened to stab him” as he tried to prevent her from leaving the store. He was ultimately fined for “carrying a concealed firearm and for uniform violations” but not criminally charged despite significant pressure from the mob.

      Another transgender-identifying person honored by the White House, 28-year-old DéVonnie J’Rae Johnson, was similarly shot and killed by a security guard in August after he walked into a Los Angeles store wielding a fire extinguisher and screwdriver. HRC claimed Johnson was “a vibrant artist” who “moved to Los Angeles in order to transition.” At the time of his death, Johnson was homeless. The guard, who immediately rendered first aid after firing at Johnson, also faced no charges.

      Notably missing from the White House’s list was Audrey Hale, a woman masquerading as a man who shot and killed three children and three staff at a Christian grade school in Nashville earlier this year before local police took her out.

  57. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    And Jesse smiles:

    New report finds Pima County Sheriff’s Department has history of not responding to calls from lost migrants

    https://news.azpm.org/p/azpmnews/2023/11/20/218265-new-report-finds-pima-county-sheriffs-department-has-history-of-not-responding-to-calls-from-lost-migrants/

    A new report found that the way the Pima County Sheriff’s Department responds to distress calls from undocumented migrants lost in the desert is discriminatory, violates the department’s own standards of conduct, and has led to deaths and disappearances that could have been avoided. The sheriff’s department disputes these findings.

    turns out, the Pima County sheriff doesn't respond to 911 calls too quick (if at all) if they are from migrants in the desert who only speak Spanish.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

      Fuck around and find out.

      "Lets sneak in illegally through the desert."

      "Oh no, the Americans aren't out here immediately saving our asses".

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        ML said FAFO to FAFU.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Looking at the report buried in the article, a lot of these are within the Tohono O'odham Nation Reservation. It's remote, contains only about 11,000 people, and has its own police department (like the Navajo further north do). As most of these seem to be on reservation land, the requests get passed off to the federal government - border patrol.

      Turns out, the Pima County Sheriff's Department is following protocol.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Look, the Sheriff's Department has to instantly respond to humanitarian needs and also must always respect the sovereignty of the Indian Nations. Just accept the contradictory orders and move on.

    3. R Mac   2 years ago

      Why are all these immigrants lost? Maybe your tribe should stop encouraging them to sneak across the border.

    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair, Jeff.

  58. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>the employees of OpenAI circulated a letter saying they would quit the company

    moved from NJ to The O.C. my senior year. like a week into the season the soccer team revolted against the Eastern-Euro smoked-on-the-field coach and got him fired. dude knew soccer I liked him I was all "guys is this a good move?"

  59. Dillinger   2 years ago (edited)

    hit

    the links to NYT don’t work. the links to NYT aren’t credible.

  60. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    So, there was a plastics summit that recently concluded. It was supposed to be about what to do about all of the plastic on the planet, but it didn't really go anywhere. (Probably a small blessing that it didn't.)

    But, there is very likely going to be an international plastics treaty some time in the near future. And the usual suspects are going to demand all sorts of regulations and mandates on plastics and their precursors.

    Here is one such illustrative opinion piece:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/4320077-recycling-wont-solve-the-plastic-problem-heres-what-will/

    To this author, recycling isn't enough, what's needed are "mandatory commitments" from nations to start banning certain types of plastics and their feedstock components. This is bad on all sorts of levels, since plastics are such an integral part of our daily lives.

    So it behooves libertarians to get out front on these things, and not let them blindside us as is so often the case. It's not enough for us to simply say "no, these are bad ideas". IMO we have to first, recognize the problems that these proposed treaties are trying to solve, and second, propose liberty-oriented, market-oriented solutions to these problems that can work and can be visualized by people who are persuadable on this issue. This last part is important IMO, because we can talk all we want about ethereal 'market forces', but they are abstract and hard to visualize, while the other team's solutions - passing laws banning things - is much more easily visualized and made concrete.

    So what are some ways that we can sell a liberty-friendly, market-friendly message of addressing the problem of plastic pollution, in a manner that can be easily visualized by those willing to be persuaded?

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      How about simply accepting these problems as the price of the convenience of plastic?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        what kind of link + essay are you going to get out of that?

    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      Most plastics that end up in the ocean are from poorer countries in Asia and from fishing equipment. Having less plastic in the ocean seems like a fine thing. The way to make a real difference there is to encourage better garbage collection in poor countries.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        How dare you, you colonizing oppressor!

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        That is what I have read tool, that most of the aquatic plastic waste comes from Asian countries.

        Again it seems to be a problem of insufficient wealth. Grow wealth and this problem goes away on its own. Just like the 'problem' (to some) of all the migrants from 'over there' wanting to come over here. If we enact international pro-growth policies here that result in growing the GDP of developing nations everywhere then that means the plastic problem can be ameliorated on its own.

        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

          There goes that radical individualist again!

  61. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>because something is run by a nonprofit focused on erecting guardrails against sheer profit-pursuit doesn't mean best outcomes are necessarily achieved

    I'd trust the non-profiteers less than the profiteers.

  62. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Will you buy your next car on Amazon?

    thinking about putting another engine in my current Mustang instead. Red Barchetta and all ...

  63. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Does anyone still do COVID tests?

    Travis Kelce contractually required to continue receiving jab in order to continue delivering jabs to TSwifty.

  64. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"As long as Hamas clings to its ideology of destruction, a cease-fire is not peace,"

    is it a mere ideology if written in the Articles of Incorporation?

  65. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

    Here is an article about the UK COVID inquiry.

    https://groups.google.com/g/Sci.Med.Cardiology/c/2QwDHxsYU9I/m/sJeX0pBWAQAJ

    Scientists faced a “real struggle” in trying to get Boris
    Johnson to understand key terms and statistics relating to coronavirus,
    Britain’s COVID-19 pandemic inquiry has been told.

    Extracts from the contemporary diary of Patrick Vallance — the
    government’s chief scientific adviser during the pandemic — claim that
    on several occasions Johnson, then the prime minister, was confused and
    “bamboozled” when engaged in conversations about the virus.

    “Watching PM get his head around stats is awful,” one extract from
    Vallance’s diary, dated June 11 2020 and read out at the inquiry Monday,
    reads. “He finds relative and absolute risk almost impossible to
    understand.”

    Johnson was “taken through the graphs but it was a real struggle to get
    him to understand them,” another entry from February 2021 reads.

    In another entry from September 2020, Johnson is said to be surprised to
    see a chart illustrating “all the same stuff he was shown 6h[ours] ago.”

    Giving evidence to the inquiry in person Monday, Vallance said his
    former boss would be “the first to admit” that scientific concepts are
    not his forte. Vallance said fellow scientific advisers in Europe had
    often complained to him of a lack of scientific understanding among
    their own leaders.

    “But it was hard work sometimes to try and make sure that he had
    understood what a particular graph or piece of data was saying,” the top
    scientist continued.

    “I would usually be persuaded that we had got him to understand what it
    was we were trying to say. But as one of the extracts showed, six hours
    later he might not have remembered what was in that presentation — so I
    can’t be sure that he kept in his mind all the time,” he added.

    Johnson will appear before the inquiry to give evidence in the next two
    weeks.

    Earlier Monday, Vallance argued that the government failed to act
    quickly enough to deal with the pandemic in its initial phases. Asked
    about the early stages of the pandemic as cases began to rise in the
    U.K, Vallance said researchers had realized an estimated 75 percent
    reduction in contacts between individuals would be required to prevent
    the National Health Service becoming overwhelmed.

    “I am not convinced that there was a very effective operational response
    to that,” he added.

  66. Dillinger   2 years ago

    oh hey! the videos tell a completely different story what time does Billy Binion's Guys I'm Really Really Sorry I Wouldn't Let Up About the RIOT! Thing piece drop, and will there be followups from the others?

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      Nuh uh!

      — Lying Jeffy

  67. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-67472933

    Black women most likely to die in medieval plague, Museum of London says

    I suppose black trannies were especially vulnerable.

  68. AT   2 years ago

    Gaza's Hamas-controlled health ministry reports that this is still not enough. Medical supplies, for example, have been insufficient to restore hospitals to any semblance of their former capacity.

    Then surrender. In the meantime, IDF will continue doing the best they can to ship patients to Egypt while Palestine holds them hostage.

  69. Jackywalash   2 years ago

    It's astonishing to witness the internal upheaval at OpenAI, with the majority of employees expressing their discontent and threatening to leave following the unexpected dismissal of CEO Sam Altman. The fact that even key figures like Chief Scientist Ilya Sutskever are now expressing regret and joining the protest adds an intriguing layer to the drama.

    The lack of transparency regarding the reasons behind Altman's dismissal fuels speculation, with some suggesting serious wrongdoing on his part. However, the overwhelming support from employees, including those within the board like Sutskever, raises questions about the nature of the dispute. Is this a power play or a clash over the pace of commercialization rather than a response to genuine concerns?

    Y Combinator founder Paul Graham's observation about the unprecedented standoff between the board and the majority of employees underscores the gravity of the situation. The unique structure of OpenAI, as a nonprofit with significant board authority, adds complexity to the dynamics at play.

    The link you provided offers additional insights into Sam Altman's transition to Microsoft in the midst of this turmoil. It'll be interesting to see how this saga unfolds and what implications it may have for the future of OpenAI and the field of artificial intelligence.

    For more information go below
    https://promptsaihub.com/sam-altman-joins-microsoft-in-swift-ai-transition/

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