Xi Jinping's in the House
Plus: AKs in the MRI room, protesters at Chuck Schumer's house, Sonic Youth takes on Javier Milei, and more...

Xi comes to America: This week, at an estate outside of San Francisco, President Joe Biden met with Chinese President Xi Jinping as part of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit. They talked about stemming fentanyl production, keeping lines of communication open between the two countries' militaries, and Taiwan's future, among other things. But little was agreed to.
"There was a time when summits with Chinese leaders resulted in agreements on containing North Korea and keeping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, on climate goals and economic coordination to avoid financial crises and joint efforts in counterterrorism. Those days are over," wrote Katie Rogers and David E. Sanger for The New York Times. Now, "there is little to no prospect of changed behavior."
Afterward, Biden called Xi a dictator again, a move that has earned the Chinese Communist Party leader's chagrin in the past. "He's a dictator in the sense that he's a guy who runs a country that is a communist country," said Biden.
The whole thing seemed pretty photo-oppy and of limited use, though the two leaders "agreed to steps that could help curb the flow of Chinese chemicals used in the U.S. production of fentanyl," per Politico.
China-watchers criticized the talks for ignoring the giant nuclear elephant in the room. "When it comes to the U.S. nuclear posture in East Asia—deploying and expanding America's nuclear arsenal as a deterrent to Chinese hostilities—Biden is not only following Trump's lead but in some ways taking an even more aggressive stance than his predecessor did," wrote Michael Hirsh for Politico. "Many experts fear Washington and Beijing are headed into a tit-for-tat spiral of nuclear confrontation that could come to resemble the brinkmanship of the Cold War."
And yet, the San Francisco talks had pretty much nothing on that, as far as we know. There was some talk of reining in the use of artificial intelligence in nuke deployment, but little beyond that; it was essentially one big "we'll circle back on that later" meeting.
Potemkin San Francisco: Meanwhile, the long-failing city of San Francisco was seemingly cleaned up overnight—or at least parts of it were—seemingly to prepare for Xi's arrival.
This became heavily memed:
San Francisco if Xi stayed longer than three days. pic.twitter.com/a3VAj5R6Y5
— Autism Capital ???? (@AutismCapital) November 13, 2023
Dad just said Uncle Xi is coming over. pic.twitter.com/VOnC0jVx9h
— Autism Capital ???? (@AutismCapital) November 14, 2023
California Gov. Gavin Newsom claimed that, well actually, this cleanup process had long been underway, but also that of course the city would clean up in advance of world leaders coming over for dinner. "Obviously, any time you put on an event, by definition…you know, you have people over to your house, you're going to clean up the house," said Newsom. "You're going to make sure the kids make their beds, you know. Take the socks, you know, put them in the drawer, in the hamper."
What Newsom misses is that taxpayers deserve for their dollars to be put to good use all the time, not just when foreign leaders visit.
Besides, it's also worth noting that "the city hardly 'fixed' its second homelessness problem. It just shifted encampments and vagrant behavior away from the downtown," wrote Reason's Christian Britschgi. There's a difference between legitimately solving a problem and simply hiding it out of sight; Newsom seems to have mostly chosen the latter.
Don't all MRI rooms house AK-47s? Few details have been released about the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) raid of Al Shifa hospital in Gaza, which is believed to be above a Hamas command center. "In a video taken at the hospital, a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, displayed caches of guns, ammunition, protective vests and Hamas military uniforms, some of which, he said, had been hidden behind M.R.I. machines and others in nearby storage units," reported The New York Times.
Indeed, IDF video provided to the press shows grab bags with AK-47s, ammo, and grenades hidden behind an MRI machine at Al Shifa, per Conricus. But many observers have said that Israeli claims that Al Shifa was housing large Hamas operations have not materialized. "Really what we haven't seen at this point is anything like the claims from the Israeli military that this is used as a sort of sophisticated command and control center by Hamas," reported BBC correspondent Yolande Knell.
It's a little too early to tell. More will likely emerge in the coming days.
Scenes from New York: Earlier this week, hundreds of kids and their parents marched to Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer's house demanding that he take action to prevent Israel from continuing to attack Gaza. I am not a huge fan of kid political activism, generally speaking, especially varieties that seem to emanate from parental preference and not the interest of the child, though this is perhaps something even worse: Ever-younger kids becoming obnoxious, shouty activists. (They are all well within their rights to do so, of course.)
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- I too want to blame my pesky marijuana habit on long COVID.
- Not sure Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore knows very much about Argentine politics:
Sonic Youth will always be Youth Against Fascism. This Goo/Pettibon mashup is a joke about right wing Milei's hair. Essentially its about voting for Massa to remain & stopping the pro-police state Milei from taking power. Vote for humanitarianism ✌️❤️All love to Argentina pic.twitter.com/YgADfcYPdo
— Thurston Moore (@nowjazznow) November 16, 2023
- Please someone help Jacobin recognize basic facts:
Another baseless claim from Jacobin—in fact, working hours have been declining in capitalist countries https://t.co/TvYIgS73cN pic.twitter.com/jUVpq90R53
— Chris Freiman (@cafreiman) November 15, 2023
- Watch this cool new documentary from Reason's Zach Weissmueller on how bitcoin mining powers a bathhouse in Brooklyn.
- This thread, from Russ Roberts, makes a lot of sense:
I don't like filming people tearing down posters of the abducted, ID'ing them and then getting them fired. Or killing their job prospects. I find the act of destroying the posters offensive and often despicable especially when done with delight. But there may be non-despicable 1/
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Xi comes to America...
Finally kicking the tires on his purchase.
Warranty claims.
They should pull all the Chinese flags down and put up tiwan and free Hong Kong flags
Never happen in San Fransico.
There were some Tibet protesters. My guess is they weren’t allowed anywhere near Xi.
Or Winnie the Pooh banners.
Did Xi tour the local Disney Store?
Iger's probably got a VIP tour scheduled for him.
I could've sworn there were a number of world leaders in town for APEC. Clearly I'm wrong, and only Xi made the trip.
Another idiot lefty that doesn’t know what’s going on.
He’s hoping there is a chink in the armor.
Engaging in yellow jokes?
Thats how he rolls.
Until he gets egg on his face.
The thread has been a foo yuan.
Where do they fall in the peking order of tastelessness?
Trying to shanghai the thread?
Just trying to get folks to taiwan on.
We're chongqing on these.
Chiang Kai-shek yourself before you wreck yourself.
Want some Mao?
That might make the baby Xisus cry.
These puns have taken a Great Leap Forward...
They're a cultural revolution.
I beat you by 2 hours on the Xi-sus pun. That means we were all hungry for Chinese puns an additional hour. Chop-chop on the Chinese puns, Chubby.
🙂
😉
A slanted viewpoint.
Narrows gaze.
To paraphrase the Nineties button: "Xi-sus is coming! Look busy!"
🙂
😉
Drop the tire-kicking charge. He brought along a Chinese limo.
Meanwhile, the long-failing city of San Francisco was seemingly cleaned up overnight—or at least parts of it were—seemingly to prepare for Xi's arrival.
How North Korean of them.
Funny, San Francisco doesn't look Juche.
🙂
😉
https://twitter.com/extradeadjcb/status/1725056817422614882?t=IFAzf9EP11OP-X4o-5P8mg&s=19
Bill Maher said this two days ago, except it was like "how about a little gratitude for all this dialectical anti-white hatred we've been pushing"
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Maher's trying the Tim Wise tactic, I see.
https://twitter.com/DowntownAmeliaG/status/1724973299090776310?t=fHVAOZ4b-aRliLur_GXjhw&s=19
These are all just a right wing conspricy theories, have you not seen the video where jews were behind every good thing for the past 70 years?
[Video]
https://twitter.com/Aristos_Revenge/status/1724962738701545728?t=xdJKU-v4p8dUY4eyng3QZQ&s=19
"Dude. What are you talking about. What Jewish people are pushing hate towards whites."
Let me give a particular example, like this "showing up on time and working hard is white supremacy" poster that got put up in the Smithsonian, working on data by Judith Katz and the Kaleel Jamison group:
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Or Cass Sunstein, Obama's chief architect of destroying our culture post 2008 and author of "Nudge Theory"
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Or the architects of the trans fixation in our culture.. Martine Rothblatt and Jennifer Pritzker (JB Pritzker is now the Governor of Illinois, and their family is responsible for Obamas rise to power using the Chicago machine)
Or maybe Saul Alinsky, who wrote the book Rules for Radicals, which then underpinned just about all lefty activism on the ground?
Or the architects of the blackmail cartels that entrapped the powerful in the US and elsewhere for the last 50-70 years?
Or Howard Zinn, who pretty much rewrote American History curriculum to lean towards his worldview, which precipitated the worldview today?
Who probably had some help from Robert Maxwell, who was not just a double agent for British Intelligence and Mossad, or heavily involved in American textbook company MacMillan Publishing, but is Ghislaine Maxwells father?
Or Larry Fink, CEO of Blackrock, which pushes Diversity and Inclusion (DEI) and Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) policy from the top down, creating fiscal incentives for it?
I could go on and on, but the most critical cogs and gears in the works of dismantling the social and institutional integrity of the United States and of white people in general, often seem to have something in common. It must stop.
Or the godfather of modern propaganda?
[Edward Bernays]
Or the architect of changing our immigration policy, Emanuel Celler?
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Or the Open Society Foundation?
Yep, the Soros clique. He was heavily inspired by the..
Frankfurt School! Guess what every one of these names has in common? Look it up yourself, don't take my word for it!
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Emma Lazarus, who wrote that "tired poor hungry masses" poem that got put on the statue of liberty 20 years *after* its dedication? Yeah her too.
The fact of the matter is if Jews who don't feel this way want help or sympathy, they need to deal with this past and present of their own group. Our goals would need to be more.. intersectional?
Less like whatever this is, that's for sure.
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You forgot all the (((parentheses))), Nazi Nardz.
https://revolver.news/2023/11/trial-by-ordeal-the-chauvin-verdict-and-the-dark-embarrassing-truth-of-the-american-jury-system/
Scenes from New York: Earlier this week, hundreds of kids and their parents marched to Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer's house demanding that he take action to prevent Israel from continuing to attack Gaza.
Gotta love it when the leftists begin turning on each other.
Hmm...guess they learned how to use kids as human shields from those pesky Gazan's.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1724922457742512631?t=RZ6hYJ5ZIzR2dRpFkFfWrw&s=19
You either stand with the US/Israel, or you stand with the Terrorists.
We are 100% back to this toxic and self-destructive template that David Frum wrote to come out of George W. Bush's mouth.
Partying like it's 2002, for those who loved the first War on Terror.
In case anyone is unclear that the same exact post-9/11 climate is being replicated now -- usually by the same exact people.
This is the climate that gave us the Patriot Act, mass NSA spying, multiple wars in multiple countries that never attacked us.
Maybe it was naiveté, but so many Americans claimed they had come to regret the toxic excesses of the War on Terror that I actually thought we wouldn't have it again.
That it's happening again not due to an attack on the US, but on a *foreign country*, is even more amazing.
[Links]
Can’t let a crisis go to waste.
Considering that 1/6 was worse than 9/11, it only makes sense that post-1/6 is worse than post-9/11.
Don't all MRI rooms house AK-47s?
Shopping for sunglasses with rifles: bad. Medical imaging with rifles: fine.
Imagine the carnage if they turn the MRI on.
“Imagine the carnage if they turn the MRI on.”
See, this is the thing. MRI magnets are always on. They use supercooled superconducting materials that cannot be turned off (unless the owners wish to pay ~$15 million to replenish the liquid coolant to recommission the machine).
Any ferrous materials in proximity to an MRI machine will be instantly pulled into or onto the machine. There are several instances of officers wearing sidearms into an MRI room and having the firearm unceremoniously leap from their duty belts and onto the machines.
Obviously, any MRI machine that has “grab bags with AK-47s, ammo, and grenades” nearby is not functional and therefore is only being used as a prop to convince observers that the building is a “real” hospital and not being used as a cover for nefarious (Hamas) needs.
That does beg the question of how many of these "hospitals" are actual hospitals and not just Hamas National Guard Armories dressed up as hospitals? Even the ones seen in Pallywood films?
It would explain why Gaza seemingly needs over 60 different hospitals.
Remember, immediately after the parking lot bombing by the PLO, there were several "doctors" claiming their operations going on were disrupted by falling ceilings. Obviously, lies to support other lies.
That all have the most efficient generators on the planet.
https://babylonbee.com/news/palestinian-at-hospital-for-colonoscopy-not-sure-about-this-doctor-holding-grenade-launcher
Cartoon:
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/400350130_10227703218703998_387277412039448658_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=WqJkLfpZaZkAX8XaO6h&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=00_AfCbkAz-Id4lmMpHdxZvPf3AxqBLXlm48WvGbi9LH0PIsw&oe=655A6C8F
...hundreds of kids and their parents marched to Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer's house demanding that he take action to prevent Israel from continuing to attack Gaza.
Someone's about to be subject to Silk Road prosecutions 2.0.
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is allowing SpaceX to proceed with its second test launch for the Starship rocket after the first exploded.
Majestically slipping the surly bonds of regulation.
60% chance that this one will be deliberately exploded too (they detonated the last one), because pushing test platforms to their limits is part of SpaceX's iterative design philosophy.
But if (when) it does, watch the establishment media who are still butthurt about losing twitter pretend it was a fuck up.
I’m predicting success.
Come for the Mike Johnson/monkeypox headline, stay for the absolutely bonkers nugget that the World Health Organization changed the virus's name to "mpox" since "the term monkeypox could be seen as stigmatizing and racist..."
Holy hell! Remember when monkeypox was going to be a thing? Thank goodness aliens came along.
the term monkeypox could be seen as stigmatizing and racist…”
Nobody cares what monkeys think.
I remember the monkeypox surge aligned perfectly with Pride. You would be accused of some type of phobia if you pointed this out.
Suugesting that certain sexual minorities not organize orgies during the outbreak was considered reductionist and unfair.
And the stories about a gay couples dog, and then gay couples children getting it were quickly burried
They wanted folks to turn the other cheek.
The poor cows and chickens are not getting the same consideration, apparently.
Or Smalls.
Think about the smalls.
Your killing me smalls
Alphabet Leftist Stormtrooper: Mein Fuhrer! We have successfully captured M-words! With our holdings of N-words and advances in G, T, X, and Q-words, by 2050, we will have conquered the alphabet.
Alphabet Hitler: Ausgezeichnet!
Where does the plus-sign fit in?
Wherever they can at any given time?
Alles klar, Herr Kommissar mad.casual.
I too want to blame my pesky marijuana habit on long COVID.
Fibromyalgia's not here, man.
https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1725160780402758047?t=b-Q0Ydoivo3Up4m0_ZoxWA&s=19
This is your daily reminder that there are simple measures Western governments can bring in that would disqualify the vast majority of migrants from either coming or staying. The fact that governments aren't doing this tells you everything you need to know.
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I'm not sure that one is accurate. We're not being flooded by legal immigrants. They're at least notionally already subject to deportation. It's just nobody is actually fucking doing it.
"This thread, from Russ Roberts, makes a lot of sense:"
The last sentence: "But there may be non-despicable 1/", seems to be an apologetic for the heckler's veto. No, you do not have the right to destroy someone else's expression because it is inconvenient to your political position. There is no "non-despicable" reason to tear down such posters unless they are on your property without your permission.
Putting up posters of kidnapped foreigners held in a foreign land as part of a foreign ethnic conflict thousands of miles away is as off-putting as tearing those posters down
Some of those kidnapped people are Americans and relatives of Americans
"Americans"
Toeing the anti-semitic line there.
Has gone Misek a few times.
Apparently discussing a world news event equates to personally funding Israel.
You're calling me a nazi for not prioritizing a sectarian ethnic group putting foreign interests over domestic as much as you'd like
That was much of the Nazi complaint against the Jews.
From what JesseAz wrote, you doth protest too much, methinks.
LOL
Going full woke
That is not "woke". That is having at least passing familiarity with 20th Century world history.
Calling out antisemitism is not "going full woke", especially when you consider that it's the woke who are the most antisemitic right now.
It's absolutely woke.
You apply double standards and special exemptions for jews, and call any general criticism racist. Further, you invoke a "history of oppression" to justify your over-sensitivity.
Look, I'm not in favor of foreign aid for any country out there. They can all (especially in Europe) learn to stand on their own and field their own militaries. I have no issue with giving a rebate or discount on equipment (kind of like the 11% at Menards). That said, here, there is a definite "good guy" and "bad guy", oddly in the Hollywood sense. While I don't trust what comes from the IDF 100%, the stuff from Hamas has been known to be as unreliable as Pluggo on a good day.
I called your specific criticism of Jews similar to one of the main rationales the Nazis gave for scapegoating Jews in the territories they had influence over which eventually led to some of their greatest atrocities.
I have no idea what in the world you mean by "double standards and special exemptions for jews", but if you want to continue digging this hole you find yourself in, please elaborate.
No. I’m pointing out youre irrationally against the jews defending themselves and attacking everyone who thinks they can. You also refused just now to call American jews American implying loyalties to another state, a common antisemitic trope. Do you think the same of all dual citizens or first generation citizens with family in other countries?
A lot of your ire is for anyone dare mentioning the violence against jews on oct 7th or here in the states. Just the like ire of misek with the holocaust.
You keep retreating to a trope that anyone who is against hamas wants to fund Israel despite being told many times here most of us don't support that.
This is 100% a strawman.
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
That is a clear and correct statement of your position.
No. It isn't. Why you have multiple people raising their hands in question of your statements.
You were even calling me Ben Shapiro just a few days ago lol.
Maybe you should clarify your position.
There's definitely a philosemitic consensus here in the commentary.
Otherwise, you're lying.
Not once have I said Israel has no right to defend itself.
And yes, you're passion for Israel is as rabid as Ben Shapiro's.
You’ve just attacked every action by Israel and called any form of communication of Oct 7th atrocities as being off putting.
And yes, you used the pro-palestine leftist claims of IDF targeting a refugee camp just 2 weeks ago.
And your anger against Israel is as rabid as AOC, Tlaib, Hassan, Misek.... Wow that's a fun game.
Shapiro wants US involvement dummy, I do not. But you are still incapable of recognizing that fact.
"You’ve just attacked every action by Israel and called any form of communication of Oct 7th atrocities as being off putting.
And yes, you used the pro-palestine leftist claims of IDF targeting a refugee camp just 2 weeks ago.
And your anger against Israel is as rabid as AOC, Tlaib, Hassan, Misek…. Wow that’s a fun game."
Jesse's gone full psychotic.
Lol. Guess no rational conversation on this topic from Nardz.
So if they’re Jewish, they’re not really American?
Jewish Dual Loyalty: The Classic Anti-Semitic Stereotype
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Accusations of dual loyalty are the main anti-Semitic hate motif worldwide, as well as in the US. Extrapolating from poll data, it can be inferred that up to seventy-five million Americans might believe their Jewish co-citizens are more loyal to Israel than to the US.
tatistics show that the main anti-Semitic hate motif worldwide is that diaspora Jews are more loyal to Israel than to the country in which they live. The Global 100 study released by the ADL in 2014 found that 30% of adult Americans polled believe this canard. A 2015 ADL study found a slightly higher percentage.
The 2014 ADL Global 100 study also found that the false accusation of dual loyalty is the main international anti-Semitic stereotype. Forty-one percent of the world populations included in the survey believe this to be true, which, if extrapolated out to the total populations of those countries, would translate to approximately 1.7 billion people. This huge figure provides fertile ground for many other anti-Semitic tropes. If the interests of Israel are opposed to those of the country where a Jew lives, an anti-Semite can accuse the Jewish citizen of siding with the Israeli interest – saying, in effect, “you are not really one of us.” In its most extreme form, the charge of dual loyalty amounts to an accusation of treason.
In addition to all this, there is nothing illegal about dual citizenship under U.S. Immigration Law, as long as the U.S. is not at Constitutionally-declared war with the other nation. Harry Belafonte was a dual citizen of both the U.S. and Jamaica, yet no one made an issue of that.
In addition to all this, there is nothing illegal about dual citizenship under U.S. Immigration Law, as long as the U.S. is not at Constitutionally-declared war with the other nation. Harry Belafonte, singer of "Day-O," was a dual citizen of both the U.S. and Jamaica, yet no one made an issue of that like Nazi Nardz makes an issue with U.S. Jews being dual citizens of Israel
Except one violates people’s rights and the other doesn’t. People are allowed to engage in pointless behavior.
It's not pointless behavior, it's targeted propaganda. Both the attempt to manipulate in favor of foreign ethnic interests and the attempt to counter that manipulation are distasteful.
As for "rights", that depends on where the posters are placed. Either way, I don't really give a fuck if Jewish supremacists or Hamas apologists are upset that they're finally experiencing a fraction of what they've promoted for the rest of us.
Ok fine, but individuals have a right to engage in propaganda. And unless the property owners that the posters are placed on have a problem with it or the public property is in a place that doesn’t allow other posters on it, then they have a right to put them up.
And what you give a fuck about has no bearing on people’s rights.
I didn't say they don't have a right to put them up, I said it's off putting.
Why is it off putting?
I dont even care if pro Palestine people post images if IDF killing non combatants. Information is Information. How hard is it for you to walk by a poster without getting angry?
It's off putting because it's attempting to manipulate unconnected people into emotional investment in sectarian ethnic concerns and support involvement in conflict on the other side of the world.
Further it implicitly suggests that hostage Israelis are more important than Americans.
And? Why is it offputting? You haven't explained that. Oct 7th was an emotional event, especially for those with family in Israel. Showing atrocities of Hamas and the Middle East as they march openly here is not something that should anger you. You've been more angry at posters than pro-palestine marchers.
Further it implicitly suggests that hostage Israelis are more important than Americans.
The posters include the American citizens. This comment makes no sense at all.
Amazing
Are you able to even form a complete thought? Or just pure unbridled anger?
I can practically see the spittle flying from your mouth, Jesse, and you're calling me angry?
LOL
I explained my thoughts very clearly, you just don't like them.
Wow. Full Misek and full Sarc. Good work Nardz.
People can look the other way = posters
Then they won't be manipulated at all.
Then why put up the posters?
That is a fair question, Nardz.
Pretty straightforward answer: Because they want help in locating and recovering their family members. Please remember there are roughly a dozen Americans being held hostage.
I don't have an issue with Jews putting up posters on public billboards like anyone else. I would feel the same about Ukrainians, or Rwandans, or Yemenis.
"Pretty straightforward answer: Because they want help in locating and recovering their family members. Please remember there are roughly a dozen Americans being held hostage."
But their "family members" (this seems to be a new talking point that's just popped up) are thousands of miles away.
So what help are they asking for?
It's not like somebody strolling around 5th avenue is going to see any of them getting dragged into a bodega.
As for the "Americans", how many of them have ever lived in the US? How many have even been to the US?
As for the “Americans”, how many of them have ever lived in the US? How many have even been to the US?
Nardz, they're Americans. And they are being held hostage by Judeocidal terrorists. Really, you feel strongly about this country. Ok, then take the time to learn about these Americans taken hostage. Do not forget them.
What help are Israelis asking for? The ability to purchase more Iron Dome missiles for defense. I am sure the military is asking for intelligence (and getting a lot of it). And the political leadership is asking America for time; time to strike at Hamas in Gaza ceaselessly until they obliterated. Beyond that, I think the attitude within Israel is: Stand back, we are going to fight Hamas alone to the death.
It is an existential war for Israel, Nardz. Hamas' leadership has made it clear: they will never, ever stop in trying to destroy Israel. Hamas is Amalek. There is only one answer to Amalek.
Not all news is propaganda.
Libertarianism supports knowledge. They support shaming bad actors. It isnt based on outright ignorance.
LOL
I see you disagree. So who decides which information is allowed in public?
You keep trying to deflect to a different conversation.
I have the same attitude toward posters in America of Israeli hostages in Gaza that I had toward Michelle Obama posing with signs that said "bring back our girls" when Boko Haram kidnapped Nigerians in Africa.
So mock them. Don't be so outraged it is happening. It is making an awareness of what actually happened as most left leaning newspapers continue to downplay what happened. I have no problem countering the real source of propaganda we see in WaPo or NYT. Your ire is unidirectional.
I am mocking them.
Yall are calling me a nazi for doing so.
Where did I call you a nazi? Don't go full sarc.
This is to Nardz. Don't lump good Southerners in with your bigotry by using the word "Ya'll.".
What's this "Ya'll" business, Übersturmführer?
“Propaganda”
This isn’t Stormfront, maybe you should peddle your shit there
Stay woke!
FFS Nardz.
Yall are calling me a nazi and making up arguments that I never made.
How are you any different than the woke?
Oddly enough youre acting a victim like woke people while being anti Semitic like woke people. Lol.
You would prefer they build a 9/11-style memorial on taxpayer dollars? [stifles snigger about ‘Jewish Memorials’]
As with the police/#ACAB stories on Reason, I’m solidly on board with defending the no-name public works guy just doing his job cleaning all the signage off a public signpost and I’m pretty even handed about a kid putting up a missing kitty poster (even if I not-so-secretly hope the cat is really dead) or stoner putting up flyers for guitar lessons over it, the dude that put up skeleton strippers on the street sign for Halloween and then moved it to private property was a pretty solid libertarian W… but everything I’ve seen is rather blatant destruction of free speech for no other apparent reason than to obfuscate more grievous destruction of other human liberties. Not even with the pretense of something like blowing their nose or spilling coffee. Just tearing even temporary statues and memorials down in order to erase the past.
I'd rather they fuck off to Israel and Palestine where their true loyalties apparently lie
Now crossing the line.
Slava Ukraini, right Mickey?
Your bigotry extends to Jews as well as Ukrainians, I see.
You poor soy
Ha ha, that was lame.
There's a difference between opposing any American involvement in foreign wars, and opposing Israel and Ukraine's own efforts. And you don't always seem to know where that line is, Nardz.
I dont care if Ukraine or Israel defend themselves. I'm not a pacifist. But it doesn't mean I want the US funding it. This is what Nardz continues to miss.
Not sure nardz even understands there is such a line.
Even this is getting generous. Opposing Israeli self-defense to the point that you oppose potentially unknown nth generation natives' right to post missing posters? You've gone around the bend with an earnesty and speed that would make a race with ENB or Scott "Don't Say Gay" Shackford seem unfair and are rather overtly headed towards an "Everyone is between an illegal foreign national and a terrorist, except me." psychopathic destination.
LOL
The dishonesty when dealing with Israel advocacy is astounding.
How the fuck is criticizing Israel and/or their propaganda in the US "opposing their right to defend themselves"?
I'm not going to cheer on either side. I am going to interrupt your cheerleading with relevant points.
And when you're accusing me of "denying people's rights" because I say putting up posters of foreigners to manipulate Americans is as off putting as tearing those posters down, you're being woke.
You're saying someone else having a different view of what is important is off putting to you. Why do you care the posters exist? Other people think differently than you in this regard. They are trying to counter WaPo/NYT, andt hose hiding the violence that DID occur. Just like you tried to claim the IDF attacked a camp when they were attacking a bunker. You've pushed as much propaganda as anybody else here or those you complain about. The hostages exist. Full stop. They aren't lying about who was taken. They aren't lying about who was killed.
Nardz, it’s very simple.
Israel = Good
Hamas = Evil
At least within the context of their conflict. You can debate things like America’s financial and military support of Israel, but the above statement is 100% objectively true. Period.
You're calling me a nazi for criticizing Americans putting up posters of foreign nationals held in a foreign country as part of a foreign conflict.
Elmer's the only honest one here.
"Israel good, Palestinians evil" and anything but deep throated praise of Israel makes one a nazi.
You’re calling me a nazi for criticizing Americans putting up posters of foreign nationals held in a foreign country as part of a foreign conflict.
No.
But it's stupid, unfair and muddle-headed to criticize Americans putting up posters of foreign nationals held in a foreign country as part of a foreign conflict. They have every right to do so.
And Americans who support Palestinians should have that same right. And neither should be vandalizing the efforts of the other.
When you take down someone else’s poster (assuming they have the right to put the posters up) you are violating their rights.
Violating people’s rights is worse than annoying people.
"No.
But it’s stupid, unfair and muddle-headed to criticize Americans putting up posters of foreign nationals held in a foreign country as part of a foreign conflict. They have every right to do so.
And Americans who support Palestinians should have that same right. And neither should be vandalizing the efforts of the other."
I never said otherwise.
I said it's off putting and explained why.
Yall have extended that to mean I think they don't have a right to express themselves or advocate for foreign interests. By that logic, everyone arguing with me here is denying my rights.
"When you take down someone else’s poster (assuming they have the right to put the posters up) you are violating their rights.
Violating people’s rights is worse than annoying people."
I think that's a rather extreme application, but not technically incorrect.
And it's not something I'll argue against, though I (big picture oriented as I am) still believe both are equally off putting.
I do wonder why Palestinian activists haven't been putting up posters of Gazans that have been killed now though...
I do wonder why Palestinian activists haven’t been putting up posters of Gazans that have been killed now though…
Because 99% of them are adult males of fighting age?
You can only post photos of the same Gazan kid looking dead or with different injuries so many time before people start getting suspicious.
And "off-putting" is another way of saying "offensive".
Ffs. Pro Palestinians arent posting posters. They are blocking freeways, storming buildings, going after Jewish students on campus… and the totality of your outrage is posters.
Amazing.
Those woke people you accuse others here belonging to are on your fucking side of the argument.
Uh, again, I pretty not-so-secretly hope the kid’s cat is dead and even I don’t want them thrown out of the country for posting up a missing cat poster and pretty freely recognize their right to post flyers. Memorializing or missing lost friends and relatives is not a uniquely Israeli, Palestinian, or Ukrainian thing. Wishing people who miss their friends/family would go back to where they came from (especially without knowing citizenship/naturalization status) is an exceedingly sociopathic, if not psychopathically xenophobic thing.
Cats kill mice.
[tilts hand] Cats kill mice but they don't get rid of mice. Getting rid of whatever resource attracted them and/or access points gets rid of mice. Otherwise, cats will opportunistically kill a couple mice without appreciably reducing the larger population.
Generally, the regurgitated notion of "Cats get rid of mice." indicates less about the ability or motivation of cats to kill mice and more about the intelligence or cognitive abilities of the speaker. It's not tough to imagine or even see mice moving around places in ways that cats would never find them. Assuming the cat's got it all figured out and under control makes one dumber than the cat... that's dumber than the mice.
I just said cats kill mice.
Funny, my parents had cats for decades and they almost never saw a mouse. A few years after they no longer had cats, mice started to regularly appear.
Similar story here. My parents have cats (as do I). When they moved into their house over 20 years ago, a subdivision built on a former farm field, the neighbors all complained about field mice. My dad looked at them and said, "what mice?"
Yup. The rock next to the front porch repels bears too.
If you own a barn with cats you can find evidence of mice in the rafters, attics, and in other high, tucked away corners the cats can’t reach. Once the cats go away, there’s no reason for the mice to climb 8-10′ up to get around the barn and you’ll see them at ground level. The mice were never not there, they were just "out of sight out of mind" to you and the cats.
I’m not making this up. There have been extensive studies done keeping cats around woodpiles, cinder block rat condos, grain bins, and similar. The cats won’t eradicate the mice and become more of a secondary parasite.
In that same vein, they literally carry and spread human brain parasites. Even to adults. And you don’t even get very good cat bacon or exotic cheeses out of the deal.
Yup. The rock next to the front porch repels bears too.
What if they jump from the trunk directly to the porch?
What if they jump from the trunk directly to the porch?
In my home universe, bears in trunks and cuddling with and encouraging others to cuddle with brain-parasite-bearing-but-otherwise-useless "companions" is equally weird.
Ive never had anyone in my family or extended family own cats (dog people), have had a few friends that had cats. Of all the people I know that didn't have cats, never saw a mouse in any of their houses or heard of them having mice, ever.
A couple of the friends with cats occasionally found a dead mouse. So in my very anecdotal experience, all of the people with no cats never had issues with mice or really ever saw mice, and the couple with cats found a dead mouse, rarely.
I would guess mice are just around a little bit, and having a cat makes that fact evident because otherwise nothing would have killed said mice and dropped them on the front porch. Perhaps the people that dont have cats that DO see mice have a more traumatic experience because the little fucker is running all over their kitchen and chasing the wife up onto a chair.
The cat was lost thousands of miles away?
Yea, weird to put up posters of missing cats in completely disconnected locations. Must be looking for sympathy. Or is the kid asking for $ to fund his attempt to find his cat thousands of miles away?
But go on using leftist rhetoric. Totes not psychopathic at all!
The cat was lost thousands of miles away?
LOLWTF? I hope the cat's dead and you assume distance is relevant? Cannon to the sun for all I care. Put up your posters.
Must be looking for sympathy. Or is the kid asking for $ to fund his attempt to find his cat thousands of miles away? But go on using leftist rhetoric.
My leftist rhetorical response is, "It's a free country." generating sympathy and asking for money aren't crimes. Just like myself with the cat, you're free to refuse money and sympathy. And I don't have to defend it from you any further than that. You can either accept it or voluntarily alienate yourself from a/the free country further.
"Wishing people who miss their friends/family would go back to where they came from (especially without knowing citizenship/naturalization status) is an exceedingly sociopathic, if not psychopathically xenophobic thing."
LOL
Nardz 3 hours ago
I’d rather they fuck off to Israel and Palestine where their true loyalties apparently lie
He keeps denying he made comments like this. It is weird.
Yes, I'd rather people whose first priority is Israel fuck off to Israel.
And I'd rather people whose first priority is Gaza or the West Bank fuck off to Gaza or the West Bank.
Basically, I'd rather people who value foreigners above their neighbors go live where their loyalties lie.
That this is an offensive position to you is rather insane.
Yes, I’d rather people whose first priority is Israel fuck off to Israel.
My understanding is that they're putting up posters of missing loved ones and family members, not posters of Israel.
How is grieving deaths in Israel putting Israel ahead of America?
So you’re saying Jews are existentially incapable of being American patriots?
I was reading it as even Jewish/Israeli adjacent and even tolerable citizens but, yeah, part of the problem is the lack of (not-exactly-the-width-of-a) hair splitting.
trolls. don't feed them.
If they prioritize Israel over the US, sure.
Jewish Dual Loyalty: The Classic Anti-Semitic Stereotype
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Accusations of dual loyalty are the main anti-Semitic hate motif worldwide, as well as in the US.
It's been really a bit weird finding people coming out of the closet like this.
I don't like filming people tearing down posters of the abducted, ID'ing them and then getting them fired. Or killing their job prospects. I find the act of destroying the posters offensive and often despicable especially when done with delight. But there may be non-despicable 1/
Well, making a video--"Film"? How old is this geezer?--in a place where you have a right to be and sharing the video is a right to freedom of expression too.
And sending the video to prospective employers helps the employers exercise their right to freedom of association too, again, also a right to freedom of expression.
Moreover, not having apologists for mass murder and bona fide Racism and Antisemitism in the workplace is a best practice for any business that values Capitalist profit over Blood and Soil.
So fuck Russ Roberts! That's my right to freedom of expression too!
I don’t like filming people tearing down posters of the abducted, ID’ing them and then getting them fired. Or killing their job prospects.
I don’t like it, either, but this is the world the left helped create starting with Justine Sacco. These people aren’t going to stop because they simply don’t share your values, and will exploit your reluctance to punch them back twice as hard to get them to stop as a weapon to destroy you. And it doesn’t help when the mass media and government institutions are giving them full support in the effort.
What’s being shown here is that this political bloc is only united when it can direct its ire at WASP-y conservatives who have the temerity to undermine social justice with their belief that 2+2=4 isn’t racist and expect society to function in a high-trust manner. That’s why a lot of left-wing Jews are so flabbergasted that they are being targeted. They never expected that the golem they helped create in the march through the institutions would turn on them. We saw a similar dynamic recently with Muslim officials in Hamtramck, Michigan suppressing queer and trans ideology in their schools, to the great despair of white leftists who tried to wind them back up against “white religious conservatives who are our real enemy,” and are expressing feelings of betrayal because of it.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1724953356290896030?t=aCJzYzuhjMflWZvEW5W22Q&s=19
TUCKER: Where were these college donors for the last 10 years when they were calling for white genocide on campus? Going after my children for their skin color, you paid for that
[Video]
Tucker is right that it is bullshit.
If we can turn former foes into allies, doing so makes a lot more sense than keeping them as foes.
But, YMMV.
I see it more like the shock of being so vehemently targeted has temporarily broken their conditioning, similar to when Pavlov's offices flooded and the dogs demonstrated short-term loss of behaviors due to the shock. We saw a similar dynamic right after Dobbs was passed, when the left was so discombobulated they forgot the narrative that trans women are women and trans men can get pregnant, arguing that only women had the right to determine if they should get an abortion or not because only women could get pregnant.
Depending on how long this little inter-bloc conflict lasts, they'll eventually forget or ignore that they were targeted, and try to redirect that ire again strictly against non-Jewish whites as the real "colonizers." Any political alliance with them has to be taken as extremely tenuous and one that they'll readily break as soon as it's convenient.
Sure, but per your own narrative and if 'two weeks' taught us anything, this has nothing to do with Judaism or Israel.
"If we can turn former foes into allies, doing so makes a lot more sense than keeping them as foes."
You can't. They still hate you. They're going to go right back to funding anti American hate when the current thing passes and they've regained their exemption from "whiteness"
https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1725152843814830175?t=nhpaljbBefT-cApfXM-xeQ&s=19
American Jews were just polled regarding the 2024 election.
68% of them said they will vote Joe Biden.
22% said they’ll vote Trump.
10% remain undecided.
74% think Biden is doing a good job handling the war in Israel.
Absolutely unbelievable numbers.
Pure insanity.
At this point, I don’t even have words.
Jewish Dual Loyalty: The Classic Anti-Semitic Stereotype
Extrapolating from poll data, it can be inferred that up to seventy-five million Americans might believe their Jewish co-citizens are more loyal to Israel than to the US. If that were true, the great majority of American Jews would likely have voted for Donald Trump, who is proving so far to be one of the most pro-Israel presidents in history.
It is easy to show that on basic issues of great importance to Israel, the accusation that American Jews feel a dual loyalty is a slander. So far, Donald Trump has been an extremely pro-Israeli president. If US Jews did in fact feel a dual loyalty, the great majority of them would likely support him. Yet in 2016, 71% of them voted for Hillary Clinton, far exceeding what she received on the national scale (48%). Only 24% of US Jews voted for Trump.
Ukraine and Russia are of no importance to the US. Israel as Richard Nixon said is of no strategic importance to the US. Ike put an arms embargo on Israel.
Time to leave old world grievance's behind and focus on America. Focus on liberty here..ending the central bank, stopping keynsian economics, illegal immigration, and govt enforced quotas of any kind, sexual mutilation of mentally ill kids, attacks on our bill of rights. Israel is a sovereign country. what they do is not our concern. If it is to you, show courage and move there to fight hamas. Leave us out.
The problem isn’t their Jewish faith. The problem is their leftism. Leftism being evil.
hmmm...a possible analogy is you can be against the mafia and are not anti-Italian. Yes Italians are over represented in the mafia but what you are against is organized crime. You can be against marxism including the "cultural" attacks on family and traditional marriage, be against foreign interventionism, be against the fed, against govt quotas and so on and not be anti-Jewish.
Ackshuyally, the Mafia is Sicilian in origin, not Italian. Good Italians will tell you that.
I don't like filming people tearing down posters of the abducted, ID'ing them and then getting them fired. Or killing their job prospects. I find the act of destroying the posters offensive and often despicable especially when done with delight. But there may be non-despicable 1/
But fuck those unvaxxed people, they are just animals.
A fun story this Thursday morning. A global Satanist pedophile group has been tormenting children with in person and online torture. The leader is a femboy. The leadership includes numerous minorities. Their biggest self description is as Satanists.
The FBI has seemingly done nothing to investigate. Until now. One of their Hispanic members targeted a black girl. This motivated the FBI to open an investigation... as a right wing domestic violence investigation.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/a-satanist-pedophile-gang-is-torturing-kids-the-fbi-didnt-seem-to-care-unless-it-could-blame-white-supremacy
Pretty fucked up story.
Skin color is the most important thing
Skin color is the most important thing
Especially if you try to criticize TIMMYE! or HERSCHE. The butt-hurt panic sets in here.
Pointing out that you’re a disgusting racist asshole isn’t panic.
And right on cue, the resident racist appears.
Make no mistake, racist as he is, Shreek would still sodomize a little black or brown boy without hesitation, if given the opportunity.
Hey, don't forget that he's a pedophile as well. He's disgusting on many different axes.
I believe this is intersectional interference for the pedophile racist.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
A global Satanist pedophile group
The Roman Catholic Church?
I didn’t know you were catholic
It’s odd a guy who got banned for posting a link to child pornography would comment on this story.
Ronald McFondle likes to clown around.
Now that's a good one
I think that was on my list of ‘Shreek’s top ten dream jobs’ I posted from a few years back. With him s a clown at Cuck E Cheese.
[sharply contorts face in expression of pain, contempt, or disgust]
Public school teachers outfuck priests by a factor of 10, and social services workers (particularly Juvie workers) beat all, but for some reason progs like Pluggo won't attack his indoctrination camps.
I wonder where he works?
Former spokesman for Subway?
Obviously, it's the Public Unit Socialist Schools Yard of Dogdick, Georgia.
He’s a janitor there but the staff jokingly made a “Professor of Economics” for the mop sink closet door. Everyone needs a trophy.
The pile of shit once claimed to have ‘worked in banking’; pretty sure it was after the staff left and the trach cans needed emptying.
But who knows? turd lies.
Even bankers need someone to empty the trash and clean the washrooms. He probably saw a Wall Street Journal and Forbes in the recycling bin.
He worked at a sperm bank.
Hopefully he didn't make a deposit.
Product Extraction Specialist
Considered a manual labor job.
He'll just rub it out.
Diet Shrike makes the same claim. Both also are soros cultists. Yet deny they are the same person.
He definitely never worked in anything related to finance.
No, bit he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express while avoiding an Amber Alert search.
Public school teachers outfuck priests by a factor of 10, and social services workers (particularly Juvie workers) beat all, but for some reason progs like Pluggo won’t attack his indoctrination camps.
And, in response, we grant them union rights and bargain with the Unions on their terms.
Meanwhile, a baker or web designer who doesn’t want to bake a cake can’t simply cite free speech or free association, but has to cite religious objection to baking a cake and gets told, even by libertarians, to bake the damned cake.
Not only are you a disgusting pederast, racist, bigoted, misogynist, hicklib, shithead, asshole, fucktard, but now you've shown yourself to be an anti-Catholic cockmunch.
I'm anti-religion, asswipe.
And I don't see them as equally harmful to life on Earth. Islam is the worst by far.
OK, so you're an all-around bigot and a pederast.
The TDS-addled ass-clown turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
So antithiest youre more religious than most people who attend church.
"I’m anti-religion, asswipe."
Lol, the fuck you are. You just have different, creepier gods.
You seem very interested in deflection of pedophiles.
I can't imagine why...
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Pretty fucked up story.
Even just by that and you've only scratched the surface:
All the stories from Zoom classes during lockdowns about kids getting into trouble for having a BB-gun on the wall in their background and this felon is brandishing a weapon on camera and the FBI goes in over some flags they assert are Satanist/Neo-Nazi flags in the background?
The ruling class no longer pretends they’re against abusing children.
That's on top of Slade Sohmer from "The Recount" getting busted with kiddie porn, including the rape of a 4-year-old. Not surprisingly, he was praised by Buzzfeed for talking about sex with elementary school kids.
Sohmer wasn't some marginal media presence, either. He's been a frequent guest on numerous rad-left programs and writer on rad-left websites. He's been on panels with Brian Stelter and Molly Jong-Fast.
Totally disgusting...and the leftist NYTCNN reporters are all good with it. They are utterly with any redeeming quality.
Wowzers, that picture at the top is not the type of person I think of when I hear the word "femboy."
That was indeed an incredibly fucked up story. Wow.
Another baseless claim from Jacobin—in fact, working hours have been declining in capitalist countries...
Sounds very late stage.
Jacobin is worried about 'democracy' now?
Hey, Jacobins, how many socialist/communist governments have been democracies? Actual functioning ones with multiple political parties, opposing views, real elections and no dictators, not just named 'People's Democratic Republic of [ x ]'. Go on and tell me how your philosophy plays with democratic ideals. Give some examples.
It is really entertaining to see the far left Jacobins like Bernie Sanders claim the Nordic countries as a model and then see them tell Bernie to fuck himself because they are market economies in reality.
Just another Horseshoe example where the far right and far left agree on something - that the Nordic countries are "socialist"... They are both wrong of course.
They are massive welfare states feeding off the wealth of a market economy. Is that better?
Actually it is a lot better. One of the problems in political discourse is the corruption of word meanings. The term "socialist" is the most misused example.
Idiots like 'Mothers Lament' try to claim Nazi Germany was socialist when that state never tried to own the means of production and opposed socialist goals.
Hey, dipshit, what do you call Volkwagen? There, the Nazi state owned the means of production and was very decidedly socialist (along with the rest of the KdF program).
Socialism describes a system where the government steals the means of production from the private sector and then runs it into the ground.
That’s a far cry from the government sponsoring a car company.
Nazism is different from socialism in that it, for the most part, leaves the means of production in private hands while dictating what is produced.
You do realize that the Nazi party, aka German government, owned the fucking company along with the whole Kraft durch Freude (KdF) enterprise?
You do realize that the government owning a few companies is not even close to the government appropriating all the means of production from the private sector?
Socialism has never required ownership of all means of production. It is a false claim leftists use to push the "socialism has never been tried" defense against socialism.
Sarc, I'm going to suggest you look up the history of corporatism as used by Mussolini then come back here. Also, white knighting the stupid pedo does not become you.
Equating fascism with socialism is just wrong. Doesn't matter who says it.
Equating fascism with socialism is just wrong. Doesn’t matter who says it.
They are protective of their right-wing brethren, that's why they do it.
MAGA and Make Germany Great Again are identical in basic form.
I'm different. I think of America as a great idea. They think of America as a white (Aryan) country.
No Shreek. You and your master Soros are the fascists. He too was a Nazi collaborator. And let’s be clear, fascism is a leftist construct. Another bastard child of Marx.
You’re so bad at this. You should just commit suicide right now.
And yet, Pluggo, you're the one here who flashes his racism and bigotry with regularity on this forum.
sarcasmic 60 mins ago Flag Comment Mute User Equating fascism with socialism is just wrong. Doesn’t matter who says it.
This is why people mock you. Benito himself, the Italian Fascist, stated his goals was to propel socialism to a working model.
Just ONE of many examples.
Fascism recognises the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade-unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which diverent interests are coordinated and harmonised in the unity of the State. – Benito Mussolini
You and shrike depend on ignorance for nearly all of your politics.
Another for you.
Given that the nineteenth century was the century of Socialism, of Liberalism, and of Democracy, it does not necessarily follow that the twentieth century must also be a century of Socialism, Liberalism and Democracy: political doctrines pass, but humanity remains, and it may rather be expected that this will be a century of authority ... a century of Fascism. For if the nineteenth century was a century of individualism it may be expected that this will be the century of collectivism and hence the century of the State. - Benito Mussolini
Ownership is the right of use and disposal. The idea of private property under Fascism is a fiction. Doesn't matter if there's a piece of paper saying an individual owns something. If the State is dictating the use and disposal of something, the individual does not own it. Fascism and Communism are both Socialism.
Dead wrong, pal.
The Nazi Party transferred entire swaths of their economy into the rightful (Aryan) owners.
Stealing from and then killing Jews is not "socialism" in the least. It is fascism.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit
You should really try spending some time being dead.
Whoosh! As usual.
A psychopath and his henchmen using the power of the State to kill Jews is not the definition of Fascism or Socialism. But being a Socialist, as Socialists tend to do, you don't want to admit that the Nazis were Socialists. .
I was thinking about it and I think the difference is incentives.
When the government owns the factories they aren't going to take care of them. There's no profit motive to keep up the equipment and look for little ways to make things more efficient. So things break down.
When the government leaves the factories in private hands while telling them what to produce, there's still some meat left on the bones. This gives the people who own the factories a profit incentive to take care of things.
Don't take that as an endorsement of either.
Fascists produce the Beetle, Socialists the Trabant.
Your ignorance is showing again. When introduced, in 1957, the Trabant, based on the pre-war DKW, was a fairly advanced design, other than the two-stroke engine, for the day. It had front-wheel drive, unitary construction, and an independent suspension.
Where they are similar is how long it would take to get one. The Nazis never actually delivered on a Beetle. It took a decade to get a Trabant. If the Nazis had ever delivered on a Beetle, the time frame to get one would've looked like the Trabant.
You would rather own a Trabant than a Beetle?
It’s just different forms of Marxism you wet brained pussy.
The Nazi regime treated corporations like proxies. It was still a command economy, and intrinsically far left. Just like you.
You also like to fuck little kids.
Remember, shrike is a Soros cultist whose most favored ideology is corporatism/socialism.
At what point though does the high rates of taxation necessary to maintain such a state become oppressive and de facto nationalize the private sector's wealth?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
Lol. How fucking ignorant are you shrike?
You're too stupid to object to any of my comment.
When your comment was that fucking stupid, it's best to let your stupidity stand on its own, Shrike.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit
I mean you've been given dozens of quotations from their policy and speeches. You've been given nationalized companies from Germany.
So I again ask. How ignorant are you?
Here, you moron.
http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
. Conclusions
Although modern economic literature usually ignores the fact, the Nazi government in 1930s Germany undertook a wide scale privatization policy. The government sold public ownership in several State-owned firms in different sectors. In addition, delivery of some public services previously produced by the public sector was transferred to the private sector, mainly to organizations within the Nazi Party.
Many, many real examples included.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit
"...In addition, delivery of some public services previously produced by the public sector was transferred to the private sector, mainly to organizations within the Nazi Party..."
Now, I'm pretty sure to have mentioned that turd and honesty are but distant acquaintances, but here turd is claiming that Nazi party organizations were private actors!
turd's got a huge helping of stupid, besides.
So do Mussolini. Government regulation of private industry to control industry through regulatory state instead of directly owned by the state. They are still socialists. Mussolini called it the greatest fault of socialism was not embedding private industry into the state control. He went out to fix why socialism wasn't working to maintain socialism. You've been given his speeches dumdum.
Industry was still government controlled in all manner in Italy and Germany.
“previously produced by the public sector was transferred to the private sector, mainly to organizations within the Nazi Party.”
So from the government to the party that…had taken complete control of the government.
Shreek, stop trying to make Hitler work.
You’re a fucking retard, you child raping cunt. You don’t get to impugn the intellect of others after your daily diarrhea posts of stupidity and ignorance here.
Now kill yourself. You’re a malignant Marxist pedophile that has no right to exist.
A capitalist economic system with a massive welfare state is actually preferable to Soviet or Chinese or similar socialism.
But it really only functions in small, culturally and ethnically homogeneous countries, like you find in Scandinavia. And that is changing as they import loads of immigrants from non-western non-democracies. Their own people's ability to sympathize with outsider-newcomers, willing to mooch off their system and their labor and wealth, will be sorely taxed and probably snap at some point.
Support for the welfare programs is already dropping. Why the political parties are running against immigration now.
I thought the argument against immigration was that if we want to get anything from the government teat we need to stop immigrants from sucking on it.
I think that the argument is actually more like 'large scale immigration policies don't work out well, especially in countries that also have generous welfare benefit policies'.
He has been told many times that no welfare state can have massive migration. He refuses to listen even when presented the costs, always falsely claiming they are a net benefit which is simply not true.
Hilarious how you accuse me of what you are doing while you are doing it.
The latest example being your hand waving away anything immigrants contribute to society while accusing me of ignoring your tired argument that I've seen a million times.
Cite me doing so once sarc. I've presented both my argument, their costs exceeding benefits, and countered your net benefit bald assertion showing it to be false multiple times.
Why do you continue to lie? Please, show me which paper you're using and I'll count it yet again. The last one you presented showed a net benefit AFTER 20 years of being a net cost. Not once did show the total sum of the benefit greater than the initial cost. You continue to not understand even basic economic principles.
Sarc, you’re already a cowardly, weak, drunken pussy. The least you could do is be a little honest
What you think is often wrong. I've given you the libertarian argument against illegal immigration 4 times now. You finally opened the link last time, got 3 lines in, then dismissed it.
When you are actually curious as to the argument and will honestly engage I'll discuss it with you. Until then I will continue to mock your ignorance and strawman arguments.
"I’ve given you the libertarian argument..."
How fucking arrogant is that? No, you didn't give me a libertarian anything.
I understand the argument that immigration and the welfare state are not sustainable. However that dismisses out of hand anything immigrants contribute to society while making assumptions that aren't necessarily true. For example the argument that immigrants are all leftists who will vote for Democrats and socialism.
Just crawl back into your bottle, you leftist drunk pussy. You are not a libertarian.
Jesse is far more libertarian than you will ever be. Now fuck off.
How fucking arrogant is that? No, you didn’t give me a libertarian anything.
And again, false. You even admit to getting the essay from Hoppe lol.
For example the argument that immigrants are all leftists who will vote for Democrats and socialism.
And he creates a strawman! Good work buddy! See that "sobriety" is paying off so well for you.
Do you ever wonder why you continue to resort to strawman arguments, cries of racism and xenophobia, etc? It is because your arguments are bald and you actually do realize it. But you don't care if your claims are unfounded. You have your bumper sticker and you're sticking to it.
Yes. Their idealism will undo them.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Jacobin had somehow escaped my notice.
https://adfontesmedia.com/jacobin-bias-and-reliability/
"Mixed reliability" usually means, "accidentally tells the truth, sometimes"
Hey, Jacobins, how many socialist/communist governments have been democracies? Actual functioning ones
Ooh, I know the answer. "Socialism/communism has never been properly tried!" etc etc.
The response to Jacobin didn't actually address what Jacobin said, though. It's true that productivity has been increasing, and remuneration to workers has not followed.
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
Why should employees be paid more for productivity gains that don't necessarily have to do with them? If it's them working more productively without aid from the company, fine but why pay employees more for automation of the overall process?
Do those graphs truly not excite any curiosity in you? That's a pretty sharp disjunct.
https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1725152460682018940?t=rQs43PfEt52isUjd50GndA&s=19
Every person at that protest would support indiscriminate bombing runs on flyover country, USA to protect Planned Parenthood’s chop shops.
They’re not fooling anyone who isn’t already a fool with this “peace activist” schtick.
Despite video and knowing the 4 individuals bought coffee in the morning, the FBI and DoJ haven't identified or gone after the people who built the widely shown gallows on J6. Coffee shop was right across the street from the FBI HQ and the people apparently knew already it was the only open coffee shop in the area. People have questions about who these 4 people really were and why they aren't being investigated.
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/j6-gallows-builders-remain-unidentified-while-fbi-and-doj-continue
The 1/6 false flag is falling apart.
Is that like, "the walls are closing in"?
You’re so bad at this.
No.
Yes.
How so?
And you're fucking retarded at this.
He’s broke like sarc now. Meanwhile sarc seems to be posting less nonsense since he quit drinking?
Less nonsense, but sarc seems meaner. Maybe he needs to take up alcohol again to sound less mean.
Sarc has discovered what it feels like, when dove’s cry.
And they never went after the folks who brought a guillotine to the White House during the D.C. BLM demonstrations.
Are there any pictures of this guillotine?
Especially considering the FBI's used digital forensics to catch people. Yet somehow this one has managed to elude them.
I'd still like to know why the Secret Service could not find who left a baggie of cocaine and baking powder (which is used to make crack) in a numbered locker with a key to unlock it.
LOL, they definitely know who it was, they're just not saying. And that's as damning as anything else, even if it wasn't actually one of Hunter's.
I find the act of destroying the posters offensive and often despicable especially when done with delight. But there may be non-despicable-
First they canceled Hitler and I said nothing because he also hated the Jews.
Needs more "Missing: August Landmesser" flyers.
https://twitter.com/a_man_in_red/status/1724808829924483287?t=wVdyn5zZEfskiK0ziTvP-Q&s=19
Oh God, I thought @GundamIsHere was joking.
No, the Pelosi dude really is saying "GamerGate made me do it!"
I can just hear all the Woke Wikipedians scurrying off to add *every* news story mentioning this to their article slandering GamerGate supporters...
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You'd think everyone involved would want to avoid touching the "I hit some guy in the head with a hammer because video games are sexist against women." narrative with a 10-ft. pole.
I believe it’s all a false flag at this point. Guy martyrs himself to demonize the horrors of right wing disinformation.
He’s being ordered to spin this bullshit so he can someday get out of prison.
Buttplug editorial comment:
After the Teabaggers, the idiots of Occupy Wall Street, the BLM riots, and the Jan 6 domestic terrorists have embarrassed the country finally a group demonstration that made me proud - the Stand for the Jewish/Israel event this week.
#SouthernGuySupportsJews
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Buttplug editorial comment:
Just breaking wind there.
Extended lying. It's what turd does.
Soros doesn't. He is funding many of the palestine groups. Watch out.
Gaza needs Open Society more than anyone does.
I know you're stupid but Soros opposes authoritarian closed societies. That is his cause.
Soros only opposed politicians he can't buy. Why he ended up disappointed in Obama. Soros is authoritarian.
You were saying, fucko?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/soros-charity-big-tech-censor-midterms
George Soros's Open Society Foundations network has given millions of dollars to a liberal nonprofit group demanding social media companies censor "election disinformation" ahead of the November midterm elections, records show.
Global Witness, a London-based nonprofit group that is calling on TikTok, Meta, and YouTube to ramp up content moderation, has received over $17.6 million from OSF's network, according to tax records and grants disclosed in OSF's database.
In addition to fighting alleged disinformation, Global Witness engages in climate activism and tracks "ill-gotten money and influence through the global financial and political system," according to its website.
Soros is no stranger to the ramped-up Democratic-led fight against "disinformation."
Along with LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman, Soros bankrolled a corporation called Good Information Inc. to combat disinformation, Axios reported in October 2021. Good Information has acquired the Courier Newsroom, a left-wing media operation boosting Democratic candidates as local news in dozens of states.
Good.
TikTok is a pro-Hamas sewer of disinformation. We know Russia supports Hamas, Iran and the election of Fatass Donnie and employs bots to pollute social media sites.
Look at Nikki Haley over here.
No one mentioned real name registration.
The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Turds of a feather flock together.
So you're pro-Hamas too?
Really, just go full-Nazi now and save some time.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit
I'm anti-leftist.
In other words, you fully support censorship and authoritarianism. You're a perfect fit for a Soros 50 center,
Facebook can "censor" whoever they want.
Why do you hate private companies?
Again. How ignorant are you? A lot of information on governments inducing the censorship. And soros in the middle funding it.
Just like soros buying off DA offices to enforce the laws he wants including going after political and business rivals.
Jesse, haven't we learned that SPB is incapable of a good faith argument of any sort?
Yes. i'm just trying to determine if it is utter ignorance or intentional narrative building.
At this point, with as often as he has done it, and as often as we have shown him up for it, I'd go with narrative building. Granted, it's shitty narrative building, the kind you find at a dollar store from cheap-ass plastic, but narrative building nonetheless.
The ass-clown of the commentariat turd, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit, a TDS-addled asshole and a pederast besides.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit
Sounds like government business as usual to me. Also, the spirit of Jen Psaki still looms.
Why the fuck are blockquote tags no longer closing properly? This fucking website...
Well . . .
. . . there seems to be an issue with them if the start of a post is a blockquote tag, but not later on.
Weird.
Not sure why.
Edit: but yeah…
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1724942399431217457?t=BOQm7MbxFbdBStQ4uLYmbQ&s=19
Over the past 24 hours, thousands of TikToks (at least) have been posted where people share how they just read Bin Laden’s infamous "Letter to America," in which he explained why he attacked the United States.
The TikToks are from people of all ages, races, ethnicities, and backgrounds. Many of them say that reading the letter has opened their eyes, and they’ll never see geopolitical matters the same way again.
Many of them — and I have watched a lot — say it has made them reevaluate their perspective on how what is often labeled as terrorism can be a legitimate form of resistance to a hostile power.
This is not limited to TikTok; similar videos have been posted on other social media platforms.
The Guardian had a copy of “Letter to America” posted, but once these TikToks went viral, the Guardian took it down, which has only led to more interest in the letter and conspiracies from TikTokers who say this is part of the media and the powers that control it trying to silence the truth.
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Tok Tok is for stupid people.
Stupid people vote and give support to your enemy
TikTokers who say this is part of the media and the powers that control it trying to silence the truth.
This much is indisputably correct.
LOL, this fucking letter has been on the internet for over 20 years. The same people who were celebrating this guy getting domed in 2011 are now stanning for him just because he knew to frame his argument in their oppressed/oppressor dialectic.
Nuke the left today.
They are also ignoring the anti-gay, call for Muslim theocracy and mass conversion to Islam in the letter.
They think the Eternal Whitey will remain around forever to serve as a universal punching bag.
Come for the Mike Johnson/monkeypox headline, stay for the absolutely bonkers nugget that the World Health Organization changed the virus's name to "mpox" since "the term monkeypox could be seen as stigmatizing and racist," reported Politico.
So, mpox as in malepox, as in passed from male to male during gay sexual encounters. Yeah, we can always find new stigmatizing ways of using new terminology.
Anti-racist Logic: We say m-word pox because it's less racist than n-word pox and, therefore, much less likely to offend the gays.
"Obviously, any time you put on an event, by definition…you know, you have people over to your house, you're going to
clean up the househide the mess," said Newsom. "You're going to make sure the kids make their beds, you know. Take the socks, you know, put themin the drawerunder the bed out of sight, in thehampercloset."FTFY. Also, anyone else notice how he just compared the people of SF to children, and homeless people (and one assumes their used needles and shit) to dirty socks to be hidden away until company leaves? Kind of telling.
Although on second thought, comparing SF citizens to children might not be such a bad comparison.
"Please someone help Jacobin recognize basic facts:"
Why start now? They are far left ideologues, not honest actors.
"Really what we haven't seen at this point is anything like the claims from the Israeli military that this is used as a sort of sophisticated command and control center by Hamas," reported BBC correspondent Yolande Knell.
I wonder what level of proof would be good enough? If they walk into the hospital basement past biometric controlled access doors into something like this? They're a terrorist organization fighting out of tunnels and shit. It's probably going to look more like something out of the future war from The Terminator.
I'd also ask what they think a Hamas HQ would look like.
It is a terrorist group. Who has also had a month to make changes as needed.
They're not going to have a full roster of all members. Not going to have banners strewn about.
“I’d also ask what they think a Hamas HQ would look like.”
I think it looks something like a presidential suite in a Qatari hotel. What do you think?
They’re not going to have a full roster of all members.
I'm pretty sure they all have ID cards. Just like Antifa.
DNC mobbed and protested by their own.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/clash-erupts-dnc-hq-mobbed-gaza-ceasefire-demonstrators
Cops and Gaza-ceasefire advocates clashed at the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee on Wednesday night, with each side accusing the other of initiating the violence.
While the fracas was largely limited to shoves and pepper-spray, the incident underscores growing progressive discontent with Biden's blank-check backing of Israel's assault on Gaza, and could foreshadow consequences in next year's general election.
A DNC campaign reception was underway at the time of the protest arranged by groups including If Not Now and Jewish Voice for Peace Action. AP reports that "scores of Democratic representatives and candidates" were on hand, including Hakeem Jeffries, the House Minority Leader.
As cops in riot gear yanked protestors from doorways and pushed them across the street, other cops bolted inside to protect the reception attendees. They rushed legislators into the building's basement and others were laters whisked away in police cars. Congressional staffers received alert messages declaring that nobody could enter or exit buildings associated with the House of Representatives.
Six officers had minor injuries. Only one person was arrested by US Capitol Police, under a charge of assaulting a police officer.
Some Democratic officials who attended the event took to the platform formerly known as Twitter to cultivate their preferred version of what took place. California Rep Brad Sherman described the crowd as "pro-terrorist, anti-Israel protestors" who "grew violent, pepper-spraying police officers and attempting to break into the building." Protestors deny such an intention, and videos reviewed by ZeroHedge don't support Sherman's accusation of a break-in attempt or protesters using pepper spray. Police reportedly did use spray.
Apparently trying to shame ceasefire advocates into rallying around the war state's backing of Israel -- and ignoring the growing electoral peril of his stance and that of Biden -- Sherman also tweeted, "Apparently, these pro-Hamas demonstrators want Republicans to prevail in the next Congressional election."
Great!
Some how nobody was shot. Jeff and sarc are confused.
As White Mike taught us, how could police know that the protesters were not armed?
Speaking of White Mike, haven't seen that fucker since Liz took over the Roundup from ENB. Wonder what happened to him?
I'm confused. Is this insurrectionist behavior or legitimate democratic protest? Nancy Pelosi doesn't even have a desk to put feet on any more!
the World Health Organization changed the virus's name to "mpox" since "the term monkeypox could be seen as stigmatizing and racist," reported Politico.
If they think of black people when they hear the word "monkey" I think that says a lot about them.
I'm expecting white anti-racists to go supernova and change the name for monkeys to something "less offensive to blacks" soon. They'll also change the name of raccoons.
Meanwhile they're renaming other animals to be less racist.
Racism lurks in names given to plants and animals. That’s starting to change
will they change the name of rats so as not to offend federal informants in racketeering cases?
No, but they'll change the name to avoid offending Jews.
Oh wait, never mind, they hate the Jews so it's all good.
Yes, people who think of monkeys when they hear "monkey" are racist, and those who think of black people when they hear "monkey" are anti-racist. Pretty sure that's how it works.
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Interior Race Theory Is a Creative Way to Decolonize Our Homes
Your sofa is racist.
Statists want a futon your neck.
You’ll have to couch that in different terms.
I'm still waiting for this concept to sink in. Someone needs to be called on the carpet for this nonsense.
Folks may need something to cushion against the ramifications.
In the current discussion, the chair has the floor.
They may want to table this.
The whole thing just amounts to window dressing.
I hate to throw shade, but it’s curtains for everyone involved.
What the fucking fuck?
Last year, Jacquelyn Ogorchukwu published an essay on the website for her brand Making the Body a Home about a new concept she describes as “interior race theory.” As she outlines in the proposal, we can creatively resist structures of domination within the home by challenging ourselves to think about the ways in which politics are embedded into the built environment and encouraging more “racial wellness” within the spaces that we create—especially with regards to the objects that we curate.
The idea for interior race theory stemmed from Jacquelyn’s experiences as a Black woman in spaces dominated by whiteness and the many instances where she found herself asking, “What would it look like to come back to a space that felt safe?” As she further interrogated this question, Jacquelyn thought about how this perspective could be applied to design. “The design discipline is viewed as something that's very race neutral; there’s always the lack of intersectional thinking,” she says, wondering, “How are factors such as race or gender intersecting with the design space, and how can we utilize those ways of thinking to create spaces that are resisting harmful, cultural [biases]?”
So on something totally race-neutral, she set out to be racist and find something that wasn't there.
I love how paranoia seems prevalent on the "cultural studies" community.
You know about the "master bedroom" bullshit, right?
I wonder what's next - multilevel houses are racist because some floors are on top of other floors, and this may remind homeowners of past oppression. Spiral staircases are out, because they originated in castles and so signified class structure and hence oppression. And get rid of the TV remote because it was invented by a Jew, and is hence anti-intersectional. And talking of intersectional, you have to have sectionals.
So on something totally race-neutral, she set out to be racist and find something that wasn’t there.
Yep, race is the most important thing.
I couldn't even get through that word salad without laughing. Luckily there's no one around.
Houses are cultural appropriation.
That was funny.
Doesn’t the House have an appropriations committee?
The last paragraph reveals the true purpose of this article: letting people know they will soon be able to buy shit from this lady to make them feel better about their racist homes:
"At the moment, she’s focused on making interactive products that help stimulate racial wellness—notepads, magnets, notebooks, blankets, textiles, etc. Jacquelyn is also eager to collaborate with lifestyle brands to design homeware as a tool for resistance."
The typical grift. These folks would make Johnny Hooker and Henry Gondorff blush.
You got a lot of moxie, kid – grab yourself a suit.
So, a small time Jesse Jackson. That checks out.
“At the moment, she’s focused on making interactive products that help stimulate racial wellness—notepads, magnets, notebooks, blankets, textiles, etc."
So basically this grifter is just trying to sell overpriced nik-naks and tchotchkes to Affluent White Female Urban Liberals (AWFULs). OK then.
. For instance, “The use of the color white has been weaponized to symbolize purity…. There’s a lot of ways that this theory can deconstruct conservative values that really align with whiteness.”
It's just all so insufferable. these people are amazing
Washing clothes with bleach is racist.
Your sofa is racist.
LO-fucking-L. They should just list the things that aren't racist. It would be a shorter list.
It's a formula that can be applied to absolutely anything.
After all of the burrito farts unleashed on it over the years...really cannot blame it for its insensitivity.
With all the feces on the streets and sidewalks of San Fran, it is as if Biden visits there frequently.
'...What Newsom misses is *pretty much everything, except where a camera is aimed*...'
Fixed
Indeed, IDF video provided to the press shows grab bags with AK-47s, ammo, and grenades hidden behind an MRI machine at Al Shifa, per Conricus. But many observers have said that Israeli claims that Al Shifa was housing large Hamas operations have not materialized.
Damnit! I had been prepped and got all psyched up for a CinemSins-style count of the number of comatose, infirm, and otherwise 10,000% innocent Palestinians the IDF was going to murder in high speed fashion while taking the hospital and *this* is what I get? A count of the fucking loot crates discovered and a critique of the decor?
I'm going to have to go to the range later to adequately express my disappointment.
For some reason I was thinking that someone should design a Doom or Duke Nukem level based on Al Shifa.
"US Senate confirms Biden judicial nominee de Alba to 9th Circuit"
[...]
"Senator Dick Durbin, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, in a statement called de Alba "a seasoned litigator with both federal and state-level judicial experience" and a "legal champion for civil and labor rights."..."
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-senate-confirms-biden-judicial-nominee-de-alba-9th-circuit-2023-11-14/
How about someone who is a champion for the constitution?
Dickhead Durbin didn't meet an article or amendment he couldn't just piss on.
"Israeli military forces raid Gaza's largest hospital in operation against Hamas"
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/calls-grow-to-evacuate-gazas-largest-hospital-as-israel-and-hamas-battle-just-outside/ar-AA1jTpjd
Of course, it's just an accident that Hamas forces are near a hospital, right?
Totally coincidental, Sevo. That is what Hamas says.
"Obviously, any time you put on an event, by definition…you know, you have people over to your house, you're going to clean up the house," said Newsom. "You're going to make sure the kids make their beds, you know. Take the socks, you know, put them in the drawer, in the hamper."
I'm not sure who is what and what is who in this amusing analogy. But it sounds like Xi is the friend we're trying to impress, the kids are the city of San Francisco, and they have the maturity of tween children who can't be made to ever clean up their room except for a once a year special occasion.
Perhaps it would've been clearer if he described San Francisco as the bathroom. You know, when you have friends come over to your house, generally you like to clean the shit off the floor before they get there.
Wait. You don't just hope they might clean it up while they're in there?
LOL
And the homeless drug addicts shitting in the street are the dirty socks to be shoved under the bed, out of sight out of mind, until company leaves.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1724900690273927643?t=GpDlYal0L-tm3Hvjr8iodQ&s=19
And here we have another corporate ad depicting a young 'Roscoe from Arkansas' as the primary target demo that hate Jews
Meanwhile we can see thousands marching in city after city that look nothing like working-class whites
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Uh, the ad was from March, when the most recent depictions of “thousands marching” looked nothing like the one we’ve got now and the narrative of a dad telling his son “Don’t be a Rosenbaum, Huber, or Grosskreutz, be a Rittenhouse.” is equally valid.
Are you more offended that it was funded by the foundation to combat anti-semitism, the fact that it was privately funded, or is skin color the most important thing to you?
It's hilarious that you see anti-white propaganda and get pissed at someone questioning the shibboleths of "antisemitism".
Would you prefer the recent ad of blonde whites tearing down missing Israeli posters put out by the state of Israel?
Would you prefer the recent ad of blonde whites tearing down missing Israeli posters put out by the state of Israel?
Do you mean "blonde white" like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, "blonde white" like Marjorie Taylor Greene, "blonde white" like Kayleigh McEnany or "blonde white" like Jill Biden? Be specific about whom exactly we are and are not supposed to demonize because of their skin/hair/eye color and or ethnicity. If you could rank them on some sort of scale, hierarchy, or matrix to ensure social justness, that'd be great.
If they show a bunch of purple-haired college weirdos, black people and muslim immigrants, it kind of goes against their narrative a bit.
Yeah, that is beyond insulting at this point. The people protesting in support of Hamas sure as hell do not look like that guy.
"Many experts fear Washington and Beijing are headed into a tit-for-tat spiral of nuclear confrontation that could come to resemble the brinkmanship of the Cold War."
Yeah, probably not since China makes just about everything we consume in the United States. They'd lose their biggest market, we'd lose our first world consumerist lifestyle.
They're already losing that as most of the really cheap shit comes from places like Vietnam now. China's getting too expensive (strange as it may seem) to produce the cheap shit in now.
Vietnam typically won't steal your designs and make cheaper knock-offs, either.
Egads! Inflation is so high we can't afford the Chinese knock off and have to buy a Vietnamese knock off of the knock off!
China hardest hit?
/joke
It will wrap all the way around and it’ll eventually just be better to get American-made knock offs of Chinese-made products.
It's all Joe Biden's 36DD chess.
As much as China getting too expensive, a bunch of it is still manufactured in China and simply assembled or repackaged in Vietnam.
Which, to Reason, would be a (Jacobin-style) demonstration that tariffs don't work rather than a clear demonstration that they redirect US dollars and supply chains away from an adversary and to a friendly partner/potential ally.
More and more stuff that isn't cheap crap (or isn't intended to be) is made in China too.
Yeah, removing so much of your manufacturing makes a war nigh impossible to fight.
So tough guy Joe didn't say it to his face?
Hope Xi enjoyed his pot of honey.
No honey provided at the meeting.
ZiPooh: "Oh, bother!">>Not sure Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore knows very much about Argentine politics:
riding Kim Gordon's coattails for decades, too.
Were they at the concert with P!nk handing out banned K-3 human sexuality books to adults 30 and over too?
word is the "BANNED BOOKS!!" list Pink was presented with was fraudulent.
Yeah, between fraudulent, deceptive, and (surprise!) irrelevant.
>>President Joe Biden met with Chinese President Xi Jinping
is it really a meeting when the owner shows up?
>>Ever-younger kids becoming obnoxious, shouty activists. (They are all well within their rights to do so, of course.)
lolnope. kids don't have rights. that's why they're still kids, because they're stupid.
The right to remain silent so I don't put my boot in their ass.
Kids have first amendment rights. But their parents also have the right to make them shut up.
>>What Newsom misses is that taxpayers deserve for their dollars to be put to good use all the time, not just when foreign leaders visit.
please steal from me but only if the money is put to good use.
The $110 million* reported dollars spent to stop Asian hate was certainly money well spent.
*just in CA.
think any of the graft agents running Oakland even know their baseball team also just left for Vegas?
The bizarre wokester Bin Laden trend on Tik Tok:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/wokesters-for-osama-bin-laden/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=right-rail&utm_content=corner&utm_term=second
"This, of course, is all correct. Much of what bin Laden says in his letter is indistinguishable from the output of your average Ethnic Studies Professor, so, grotesque as it most certainly is, the fact that the sort of people who are marinated in the output of your average Ethnic Studies Professor enjoyed reading it should probably not come as a great surprise. In his missive, bin Laden wrote:
'Your law is the law of the rich and wealthy people, who hold sway in their political parties, and fund their election campaigns with their gifts.'
Had he not followed it up directly with “Behind them stand the Jews, who control your policies, media and economy,” this sounds like the sort of thing you’d hear openly on TikTok in pretty much every other context."
"But not all of the letter is like that, and one would have thought that at least some of it ought to have been reflexively, presumptively, self-evidently abhorrent to the nobody-purer-than-me TikTok crowd. At one point in the letter, bin Laden writes:
We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling’s, and trading with interest.
That’s cool with the LGBTQ+ advocates, is it?
What about this, which is nothing more and nothing less than a call for a state religion:
'You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator.'
Or this, which demands that everyone become a Muslim:
"complete submission to His Laws; and of the discarding of all the opinions, orders, theories and religions which contradict with the religion He sent down to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)."
Why isn’t this a problem? I find this question genuinely fascinating. What is it about those ideas being expressed by someone foreign — someone who can plausibly (albeit stupidly) be cast as a victim — that causes otherwise exquisitely sensitive people to completely gloss over them?"
"This same trend has been on display at many of the anti-Israel protests, where I’ve seen quite a lot of people wearing T-shirts that read, “Queers for Palestine” or “LGBT for Hamas” or what you will. It’s utterly delusional — almost to the point of pride. This is your brain on intersectionality. How to fight back remains anyone’s guess."
Wokal Distance has a thread regarding it as well.
https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1724969419804397997
The letter @yashar
is talking about here is attributed to Osama Bin Landen, and it is a masterpiece of political propaganda. Maybe the best example of propoganda that I have ever seen.
The writer adopts a brilliant strategy: using the ideas of American moralists (both left and right) to attack America's moral authority.
He uses the language of the moralists of the American right to attack American social morality. He attacks gambling, homosexuality, and sexual immorality generally; all of which are complaints that resonate with the American right.
Having appealed to left and right, and having subverted American moral authority, he then suggests a scapegoat, a common enemy, a group which can be blamed for this whole mess:
The Jews.
But remember: all of this is propaganda. The author is not arguing honestly, he is trying to push the buttons of Americans in order to demoralize them and get them to turn on their own nation.
The goal of the letter is to turn Americans against their own nation by causing them to lose faith in their own society and civilization. This will lead them to become demoralized, to not know what is true, and to turn on America.
To close, that letter was pure propaganda, and what these tiktoks show is that America is not ready for the propaganda war
Again, this would be less of an issue if the center-right hadn't punted on the culture war in the early 90s after being demoralized by MTV and Hollywood patting themselves on the back for getting Clinton elected. A nation without a civic consensus or collective identity, and fetishizes "diversity" as a virtue in and of itself, isn't going to last very long because there will be too many groups competing together in their own self-interest.
The left managed to gain control here by pejoratively framing American identity as "whiteness" and "white supremacy," and arguing for the last 30-40 years that it needed to be dismantled, to be replaced by some vague neo-marxist utopia where whites self-mortified and were treated as lower-class citizens by PeeOohSees. As Noel Ignatiev directly argued, and has been the cornerstone of academic thought, "treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity," and being color-blind became racist.
There was a very brief moment in US history during the late 90s when it actually seemed like we might be entering a post-racial environment where no one really gave a shit about someone's race. However, academia was already in the process of poisoning that idea during that time, and it simply became mainstreamed in the 21st century, particularly after Occupy. The left is the primary cause behind racial relations being as bad as they are, because they specifically set out to alienate everyone against white people as The Adversary.
GIRL-FIGHT!
Far Right Media Clash: The Ben Shapiro And Candace Owens Blowup Explained
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Other prominent conservative media personalities have weighed in on the feud, including pundit Charlie Kirk, who said he is “genuinely confused why asking questions and quoting Bible verses about peace warrants a call to resign” and urged more room for disagreement. “The Blaze” host Lauren Chen defended Owens in a response to Shapiro’s post, stating Owens has been “perfectly respectful and consistent in her commentary,” which Chen considers “anti-war and America First.” Conservative pundit Dave Rubin, however, criticized Owens as being “bizarrely silent about the Hamas atrocities” and questioned some of her posts directed at Shapiro, stating Shapiro had never said she cannot quote scripture.
TANGENT
Owens said on Carlson’s show she and Shapiro have repeatedly disagreed on a number of issues, including the Covid-19 vaccine and the Ukraine-Russia war, but no disagreements between the two have previously risen to the level of a public spat. Owens, previously known for her outspoken pro-Donald Trump activism, joined The Daily Wire in 2021, six years after Shapiro and Jeremy Boreing co-founded the media organization.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2023/11/16/far-right-media-clash-the-ben-shapiro-and-candace-owens-blowup-explained/?sh=ecdc70e2c1e3
Maybe you need to thoroughly read your links first.
Owens previously she rushed to her friend Kanye West’s defense after he made a widely criticized post in October 2022 stating he would “go death con 3 on Jewish people.” Owens stated, “if you are an honest person, you did not think this tweet was antisemitic.” She posted on the right-wing social media outlet Parler that anyone comparing West to Adolf Hitler “should no longer be taken seriously.” Owens has her own history of making comments that appear to support Hitler. When asked about globalism and nationalism at a panel in December 2018, Owens affirmed her support for nationalism and condemned how Americans link nationalism with Hitler, stating: “If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. The problem is that he wanted, he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize.” Owens defended her comments following criticism but clarified she was making a distinction between Hitler and nationalism, adding he was a “homicidal, psychotic maniac” and a “mass murderer.”
Owens seems to have an antisemitic issue.
no no! Candace only discusses intellectually. just ask her.
I do feel a little bit of schadenfreude toward the daily wire folks for having issues with Candace Owens. I remember when they hired her on and thinking that was a really dumb idea.
Mostly, from watching her on Rogan and a couple other shows and instantly thinking "why the fuck is anyone talking to this girl, she is absolutely dumb as fuck". It felt like all of her fame was based on "hey here are these standard con talking points but a young hot black girl is saying it". But when she tries to articulate and debate, she is clearly just a hot average to probably below avg IQ girl.
To bring her on your team, which is supposed to have some credibility ostensibly, seems silly from go. If some young hot cheerleader who doesn't seem like she can add 2+2 comes along and says all the current talking point things, im not going to bring her on the team as she seems otherwise dumb as a box of rocks. I wouldn't want Tomi Lahren (sp) on my team for the same reason.
I haven't read up on whats going on between the DW folks and their drama yet, but the first thing I thought when I saw they were feuding was...I mean that's what you get when you hire retarded people. You don't stick your dick in crazy, and you dont make business partners with simpletons.
was almost exactly a year ago since she told us all no no Kanye loves the Hebrews maybe is a cyclical thing?
I would agree that it's a shame that "nationalism" as a concept got tarred with the Nazi paintbrush.
No surprise. The first two letters in Nazi come from nationalism. Hitler's core belief, German nationalism, trumped everything else - theories of governance, economics, even his anti-semitism. His belief in Germany's national greatness and destiny led to war and all the disasters that followed.
if he'd have put all that into the DFB they'd be Brazil.
Wouldn't they then get tarred with the Brazilian paint brush?
Wouldn't you love to be tarred with the 'sentient human' brush.
"Maybe you need to thoroughly read your links first."
That's never ever ever going to happen.
"he was a “homicidal, psychotic maniac” and a “mass murderer.”
Criticizing Hitler is now anti-semitic. Soon everything will be anti-semitic.
Trying to deflect criticism of your antisemitism, asshole?
She said we shouldn’t link nationalism to Hitler. That’s a good point to be made. Kanye was in the middle of an attack on jews in the entertainment industry. He was saying jews are the only group of people you can’t insult in the entertainment industry, if I remember correctly?
turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit
>>But many observers have said that Israeli claims that Al Shifa was housing large Hamas operations have not materialized.
she surfs, gets high, and moves goalposts like a KU fanbase ...
Would be nice to know a little more about these "many observers". How many? Who are they? Why should we believe them?
I can't hold it too much against Liz as this Roundup is mostly just noting what's in the news today. But it would be nice if all reporters didn't use vague bull shit like "some observers" or "experts say".
It's just a Roundup of what others say. Here's Liz on the protesters more locally. It's actually pretty fair, and what many here in the commentariat have said.
https://twitter.com/LizWolfeReason/status/1725194240823599182
The two positions aren't "ceasefire" or "genocide," though. What happens if Hamas doesn't agree to a ceasefire? What happens if they agree to one and then break it? Why are you characterizing what Israel is doing as a "genocide" –– they seem extraordinarily bad at genocide, if that's what they're doing, given that they warn buildings before they strike and have allowed for humanitarian corridors to open up and don't really seem like they're trying to maximize civilian death toll.
Then there's also the question of what happens to the hostages––would they be freed? What happens if Hamas doesn't agree to that, or has killed a bunch of them? What *is* Israel justified in doing to Hamas in response to Oct. 7?
Shouting slogans is easy. The rest is hard.
(There are also defensible positions along lines of "Israel is justified in going after Hamas but we don't support the U.S. funding of Israel" which strikes me as extremely fair and probably the closest to what I believe. That's not what these protesters are saying, though.)
(I am sure this will trigger some libertarians who are more interested in jumping to conclusions about what I believe vs. actually paying one iota of attention.)
I think Liz does a good job and has reasonable views on things. My complaint is much more general about how awful journalism is.
>>I can’t hold it too much against Liz as this Roundup is mostly just noting what’s in the news today.
course not. she could choose her words about the news better though 🙂
After years of ENB I'm like a formerly abused wife with a new man when it comes to Liz. Just appreciative she seems normal and decent.
absolutely. I don't do anything not for fun.
If you want a good laugh, check out this weepy article over at ESPN.
I've posted the title because I can't post links for some reason:
Owners' vote shows the Oakland A's move is about money, not fans
Yeah, no shit. The A's are a private business, not a government entity. Leaving the stupidity of publicly-funded stadiums aside, that's the reason Bob Irsay yeeted out of Baltimore in 1984 before the city could seize his team under eminent domain.
Some choice quotes:
A's fans, with a fair amount of bless-your-heart innocence, felt they could change the course of history with sheer outrage. They derided Fisher with billboards outside the stadium and bedsheet signs inside and airplane banners overhead. They stopped drumming in the right-field bleachers, turning a party into a funeral, and then they threw a reverse boycott party that did the exact opposite. They've lived with this prospect for what seems like forever, just as they did when the Raiders were boomeranging up and down the coast and the Warriors were casting their covetous eyes toward San Francisco.
But it's never been about the fans, or loyalty, or 55 years of history. Fisher can reel off the names of Sal Bando and Catfish Hunter and Tyler Soderstrom and Denzel Clarke, but it's always been about the search for the next mark, the next wheelbarrow of free money, the next lobbying tactic that produces the most corporate welfare. The team is a line on a spreadsheet, nothing more than an asset in a billionaire's portfolio. The people left behind don't matter. The cruel truth is, they never did.
Again, no shit. You have an entitled fan base who thinks they own the team, trashing the person who actually does. Can't imagine why he wasn't incentivized to stay.
Fifty-five years of history, history Fisher claims to honor, tossed aside for expediency.
I want to highlight this part because of it's blinkered historical ignorance of the team's history. Like a typical communist, Tim Keown writes this article as if time and tradition should mandate that the team stay in a shithole of city, irrespective of the circumstances. Conveniently, he ignores that the Athletics played in Philadelphia almost as long as Oakland--1901-1954--and then in Kansas City for 13 more seasons before moving to the East Bay pisshole back when Oakland was still a pretty decent, working-class city that wasn't dominated by ethno-marxist trash. Why is he deliberately omitting those parts of the team's history? What if the Dodgers relocated to San Antonio, or the Braves relocated to Nashville? Does Atlanta or LA have any more right to those teams than Oakland does?
The shill sports media is utterly fucking worthless.
Keown is a bay area sports-writer. He knows about the infield fly rule, but private property and ownership are abstract concepts far beyond his ken.
The Chronicle still employs such twits, and worse: Ann Killion, champion of women's sports! And totally ignorant that pro sports are an entertainment business with pay proportional to draw.
Show me two women's soccer fans and I'll show you hundreds of pro football fans.
>>then in Kansas City for 13 more seasons
broke my grandma's heart she didn't get the '72, '73 and '74 series winners in KC but she loved the Royals too
Without subsidies from the public, the A’s will balk at staying in Oakland?
Or will the A's swing for the fences?
If they follow the path of the Raiders, it would be a hit and run.
I think this kind of generalization is stealing a base.
The most socialistic aspect of the Nazi regime was their Strength Through Joy program, state organized leisure and tourism. Subsidized and financed by funds the Nazis swiped off the unions when they were banned. Gunther Grass writes about the program in his memoirs. There was hiking, camping, sports, arts and crafts etc. Before the war, most Germans could afford a trip on the cruise ship Wilhelm Gustloff, to destinations like the fiords of Norway and other aryan delights. (Read Grass’s Crabwalk to learn the sad fate of the Gustloff) One class for all passengers. Class and race homogeneity. KdF’s leader was Robert Ley, working class with roots in the radical socialist Strasserite wing of the Nazis. An incompetent drunk, but devoted to Hitler.